Episode 120: In Season Tournament, Draymond Green, Haliburton, One and One, Coulibaly,

Episode 120: Live from Boston! Adam is back and pumped to talk some hoops, cards and current NBA events.

We break down
- in season tournament tv numbers 
- Halliburton 
- Draymond Green.
- EJ Traders day:   Full Set - All on card autos 
- josh primo
- Coulibaly
- ayo zero line game 
- Trump suit mem 
- One and One: product recap.

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Transcript

00:00.84
Adz
It's a go live thing rep episode one Twenty awesome and we're live cue that music.

00:11.35
youcantcompthis
I I've just got a message that's I've just got a message that says fail to start to start recording. Although the time is ticking over on mine. It says wait a moment and if the problem persists try refreshing the page and then try starting a recording. But. It looks to me like everything's recording to be honest, yeah okay might have just been a gremlin. Yeah.

00:31.11
Adz
Ah, it looks like it's recording looks fine. It looks fine. Well well, we'll find out.

00:44.37
youcantcompthis
You all right? Sorry I'll start again, you ready and.

00:47.66
Adz
That's all.

00:57.36
Adz
Welcome everybody to the you can't comp this and Nba trading card podcast. We are your hosts Adam Amy and Russell Gibson from a long long way away. I've moved into the city to be closer to you and you've moved well you're on holiday halfway around the world. What's going on.

01:20.38
youcantcompthis
You yeah I'm in Boston today so we were in Brooklyn New York yesterday and.

01:26.80
Adz
I thought you meant Brooklyn like around the corner past footscray anyone in Melbourne would get that joke anyone outside of Melbourne probably won't so anyway.

01:39.67
youcantcompthis
You should maybe maybe get a helicopter there. But I think flying a plane there will be super difficult very short runway. Um, now look yeah Boston and.

01:48.61
Adz
Um, ah goodness a goodness here in Boston.

01:54.78
youcantcompthis
We only just got in today. So I haven't really got much to report to you but I only think I can tell you the food. The 1 dinner we've had so far has been exceptional. So thank you Marios for delicious dinner tonight and um Matt look at me.

02:06.19
Adz
Awesome! Expected you to have an accent when you come back.

02:14.70
youcantcompthis
Very strange all the time and they think I'm from england so I'm going to just keep playing to that english charm. That's the way I'm looking at it. Yeah look it actually feels like I haven't seen you for a few weeks because so last week we were with Ryan the week before that I was with Maddi Yuda and then.

02:18.24
Adz
Just play it out. Yeah, they love us ozzies I'm sure.

02:33.62
youcantcompthis
Because I've been on the holidays. We've been a couple of weeks recording. So it's it's good to see you again anyway because it just feels like a minute and the last time I saw you was Hobby Anger. Yeah.

02:34.73
Adz
Because yeah, I've I've moved um um yeah like I moved the week after the hobby hangout I think and it was. It's been I think I went through like troubleshooting trying to get the internet online and. But good. We're we're we're back though, it's good. It's good to it's good to actually be back to a normal normal episode.

02:54.45
youcantcompthis
It's safe. Well listenson is at home the problem with the internet was Adam not russell. Okay, so like let's just get that straight? Yeah, so.

03:03.22
Adz
Yeah I'll put that. ah ah I'll put that on the record because I'm the one that outputs it to Facebook and Youtube because my internet's terrible or was terrible.

03:16.97
Adz
It appeared that Russell's internet was dodgy. It wasn't at all and I will will admit that yeah, it's it's it. It was the internet that I was connected to but that shouldn't be a problem anymore.

03:21.13
youcantcompthis
I Hope you're listening anthonyneath and.

03:33.00
youcantcompthis
So I see just looking at the podcast schedule. So the last time you ons the nineteenth of November you've actually had a ah month vacation and'

03:39.60
Adz
I can call a vacation I call it a a break of sorts I almost had a breakdown. No no, no, it's it's it's good. It's yes you' just really good to be back.

03:47.50
youcantcompthis
That those posted you absolutely man Welcome back. It's great to have you back. It's yeah, it's been too long. So let's just.

03:56.38
Adz
Yeah, and then I yeah I I want to I've got to listen to to the I did listen to you and Matt have a chat. Um I need to listen back to you and Ryan because um I'm very always always interested to hear Ryan's takes on things.

04:11.32
youcantcompthis
The the reason why if listeners haven't heard the generate episode the reasons why you should listen to it is that he's a really smart buyer who's basically just immersed himself into the hobby. The other thing about Ryan too is he actually doesn't have an angle that he's selling. So.

04:22.99
Adz
Um, yeah.

04:30.35
youcantcompthis
He's not a social media influencer. He's not a book raper. You know he hasn't been bought out by tops or you know fanatics or anything like that so he literally just looks at the hobby through a very mathematical lens I will admit that he looks at things from a very.

04:39.87
Adz
True.

04:48.18
youcantcompthis
Analytical standpoint but at the same time too. I Also think that also provides a particular level of unbiasedness so you know I think he's a really fascinating guy.

04:48.97
Adz
Um, yeah.

05:01.80
youcantcompthis
You know one of my life philosophies has been to always surround myself with smarter people than myself and I'll definitely put him into the smarter- than myself category. He's a very very intelligent dude. So yeah, if you like listening to you know intelligent takes from people. Definitely check this guy out and. Speaking of non-intelligent takes I'm going to do a backflip from last from the last episode already this episode Soll. We'll get onto that a little bit later so a bit of a summary for today's episode we're going to talk about in-season tournament. We are going to talk about Halliburton and dream on green again. And yes I do know we spoke about it last week. But.

05:20.42
Adz
Yep.

05:27.37
Adz
Ah.

05:38.70
youcantcompthis
I think these are really big issues. You know in the hobby so you know I think it's okay to talk that that that again we're going to talk about a massive full set that someone's put together Josh Primo Kula Barley Ao we're going to talk about Donald Trump we go talk about 1 and one because I think.

05:44.14
Adz
Um, ah.

05:55.33
youcantcompthis
It's that time of year and you know it's definitely worth having a bit of a runthrough on that. So look I think I'm going to open the floor to you to start this episode a because your beloved purple and gold was floering themselves in champagne and um.

06:12.24
Adz
Um, you were we the lebron won himself an accolade.

06:14.80
youcantcompthis
But he look he deserved it there. Yeah.

06:19.63
Adz
Look it was it was interesting I Actually when I did get the internet back I Actually um was was on a friend's podcast where we just we talked I got to actually talk about the lakers for once just in a sporting context without my my colleagues sort of.

06:36.67
Adz
Um, taken the mickey too much. It was more of a well he clearly wanted it the Lakers I think I think our discussion the discussions non hobby related where did it work was it did it get people did it get eyes on on games. In the November early December period of the season and I think the answer is yes like I think people actually paid attention to what was going on I don't know if it was always positive but it was something different and I think people got behind it and 1 person that obviously did get behind it.

06:59.96
youcantcompthis
And.

07:13.60
Adz
was was Lebron James because if he wasn't hungry for it I don't imagine the lakers would be taking it as seriously as they did.

07:16.30
youcantcompthis
That's.

07:23.40
youcantcompthis
So I think that part that you spoke about it's not hobby related like it's not hard louder numbers. But at the same time too I think it is hobby related because I think anytime that you're generating interest you know in the Mba I think that does you know roll over to the Nba. So.

07:42.81
Adz
Um, yeah, fair fair. Yeah.

07:42.94
youcantcompthis
Cases were defeated by the lakers in the in the final and I think obvious and the easy one he had to highlight is taree Halliburton right? because he is on absolute tear lately and I don't think him making the finals hurt his hobby value I'll definitely say it's you know it's improved his hobby value. So. Just going back to what you're talking about with the numbers actually I've got them in front of me so the game averaged 4580000 viewers and for context that is the most watched non- Christmas Mba game during a regular season in 6 years so

08:19.84
Adz
Wow.

08:21.48
youcantcompthis
I think if you're using eyes on screens or bums on seats you know, whatever phrase that you would like to use in that pieces. You know the argument is it's it's been a great success. Um, we talked about this on the last episode I don't want to go into it too much but basically Ryan windhorse was who's the ultimate.

08:29.28
Adz
Um, yeah.

08:40.46
youcantcompthis
Lebron Jock Rider was saying that Lebron took it seriously and the reason why he did is because they're trying to sell the rights to it. You know to Amazon or to Youtube or you know whoever wants to broadcast it. So if they get a billion extra dollars in you know then motivation is definitely there so look.

08:55.39
Adz
It's true.

08:57.31
youcantcompthis
Umm, really glad they took it serious because I think that's part of the problem isn't it with Oldsar weekend. It's sort of this pointless game that no one cares about whereas you know they were really really trying and I think if you've got the maybe lebron still is the marques player of of the league.

08:59.91
Adz
Yeah.

09:13.70
Adz
In year twenty one yeah

09:13.75
youcantcompthis
You know trying as hard as he can you know I think that really does mean something and it's just unbelievable isn't it. So why don't we try and spin this around a little bit. You know Hobby related and what you got any Hobby takeaways from from that day. So.

09:23.52
Adz
Um, yeah.

09:30.28
Adz
Hobby takeaways from that game was yeah I think Halliburton's a big standout. Um non hobby wise Anthony Davis was was my standout. But yeah like I'm still thinking back to what you said about it being hobby related.

09:35.48
youcantcompthis
Let's let's do. However, that's that's totally life.

09:41.16
youcantcompthis
Why don't we talk? Why don't we do haliburan. Let's do Halliburton and why don't we do Anthony Davis because Davis played pretty well didn't he.

09:48.94
Adz
We can look at we can look at both. yeah yeah I was gonna say I was either him or reeves are the ones that sort of pop out to me because Lebron is Lebron. Let's be real.

10:00.30
youcantcompthis
I I'm happy to do reeves and Anthony Davis but I think to be fair, we've done reeves a fair bit this year I wouldn't mind to check in on Anthony Davis yes yeah so tyres hires halliburton.

10:06.59
Adz
Yeah, Davis is worth a looksy. Yeah, the 40 the Forty twenty game that's not going to count any stats.

10:18.24
youcantcompthis
Silver ps a 10 last sold for $500 exactly this is an an enormous rise for this guy so in the last six months he's up 46% look I think the real conversation around this is is this a buy hold or so and for me this is. Ah, sale at the moment because you know he is really moving into like this is obviously not Jordan Pool territory but you know you can buy some really nice things for 5 and well pool went to a thousand.

10:46.65
Adz
Isn't it isn't it is he Jordan bull ah, all right now. Jordan pool was trat it like it didn't deserve what he the spike he got Halliburton I think yeah, you're right? It's not. It's not pool level crazy.

11:00.88
youcantcompthis
Remember not that long ago we were talk about this kind of the two eighty and two 60 Mark and we will sort of like should we buy this or not you know what? I mean. So yeah, yeah.

11:08.26
Adz
I Wanted to know where I wanted to know where his ceiling was yeah yeah, fair.

11:16.88
youcantcompthis
But I've got to tell you if this goes to c co 700 I'm not going to be shocked.

11:19.59
Adz
No I'm not because he keeps get it. The thing is before the inseason tournament right? and and the lakers focused on him to win that tournament. They had him guarded all up the floor. They did they get they were doubling him. They weren't they were trying to choke basically choke their point guard they had to because he can score and he can facilitate and you you know take him you take him out of the game and the pace is really Struggled. Um.

11:47.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

11:55.76
youcantcompthis
Yes.

11:57.72
Adz
Halliburton's a really good basketball or if he doesn't make all star this this year. So I think it's still got a ways to go up I still think we've got a couple of months of halliburton

12:07.16
youcantcompthis
I look I wouldn't put back on that. And in fact, I'll maybe even go so far to a agree with you. But I think probably for me though you know would you rather have that or would you really have like a really nice. b gs jordan insert or you know Lebron James and I think that's probably where I'm sitting these days you know taking it out of something that that's speculative and and putting it into something. Yeah, sure look and that's fine I just think I've got to be honest with you I'm I'm holding.

12:28.23
Adz
Um, it's a good question. It's a very good question. My my thinking at the moment is a hold. Yeah.

12:44.64
youcantcompthis
Decent amount of hallibur and and I think you know when I get back from my holiday I think I'll just literally just try and move. You know the whole lot off and then try and buy you know 1 really nice card whether it's you know a really nice Jordan order a really nice Lebron. You know I might try and do something like that I think that's the.

12:44.76
Adz
Yeah.

12:54.35
Adz
Um, yeah.

13:01.83
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I definitely think it's not pocket change anymore when you're talking about Halliburton. He's definitely gone into another ah another layer as far as the tiering goes as far as our.

13:03.59
youcantcompthis
Think Honestly, that's the play. So so.

13:17.85
Adz
Sort of value and and my question is is he is he a $500 rookie card or is he or is he that sort of is he pushing after that six seven hundred by all star weekend I wouldn't be surprised either way to be honest, yeah yeah.

13:31.55
youcantcompthis
I is you've paid $500 for it I'm ah I'm not going to criticize you? Yes, yeah.

13:37.40
Adz
I wouldn't as I said at the moment I'd hold. Yeah, ah I'm not in a rush to buy and I think your comment there about selling thinking about selling when you get back, you've got time to do it. Do you know what? I mean like that. Even even if you're not holding and and you want to sell you've got time I don't think it's gonna you're on the you're on the downward. Trend until at least after the all start weekend.

13:59.24
youcantcompthis
I absolutely not no I could agree more that the only caveat to that is injury right? But think Glos Alley's achilles or something like that in the meantime. So um Anthony Davis silver psa ten so this is his 2012

14:05.10
Adz
Yeah, touchwood. Yeah there that's true.

14:17.97
youcantcompthis
Silver psa ten last sold for one thousand five hundred and ninety two this is very interesting for me so in the last six months he is down 42% I I'm actually really shocked seeing that number I would have thought he'd be the type of guy that would be. Pretty steady most of the time maybe up 5% here or you know down 5% here. Something like that. So this really is so I'm going to put this due. You is this now a buying opportunity.

14:46.62
Adz
Um, is it a buy fool.

14:51.95
youcantcompthis
Is not a good reason why he's down 42% that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me I think he looks in pretty he looks in pretty good shape. He's playing okay basketball.

14:59.57
Adz
No no and that's um.

15:04.63
Adz
Yeah, true, well February Twenty Two he he's the there's a six and a half thousand dollars sale of this card. The pop count is 33 it's not crazy.

15:14.62
youcantcompthis
So February 22

15:19.61
Adz
So yeah, February Twenty Twenty Two is it February month february 54500

15:24.40
youcantcompthis
Oh man Ryan will be froshing over this hopco. This is 33 but

15:29.92
Adz
Um, yeah, so my and look Anthony Davis is what at 1500

15:35.15
youcantcompthis
Probably why this is not a buy. Maybe that's the easier thing to say you told me why this is not a buy with a pop count of 33

15:49.41
Adz
It's but there's no I can't I can't give you a reason why it's not a buy but the ah well actually I can give you one. It's Anthony Davis and he could fracture and he could he could he could break a nail a training.

15:56.13
youcantcompthis
And going so people.

16:05.35
Adz
And be out for a year and a half

16:06.46
youcantcompthis
So so we we can make the hypothetic so hypothetical argument people have sold out their Anthony Davis and now they're buying women in the honour they're buying Tyree Halliburton now instead is that what you saying.

16:16.23
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah, something like that and I just I worry about him. He's one of those bite your own risk is never even as the the the second big big guy in um, in Los Angeles he's he hasn't generated the hobby love that I think the Los Angeles normally brings and I think it's because of the inconsistency with his injury history because he does he he he. Ducks in and out every time you decide to back him. He lets you down. Um and I've been really impressed this year with um with seeing him on the floor and they rested him against San Antonio and they ended up losing to the spurs. So. But is that so yeah, they need they need a healthy Anthony Davis on the floor. Um, when he's healthy is literally one of the most dominant players in the in the entire league. Um, but an unhealthy Anthony Davis is a disaster for whichever team. He plays for.

17:19.46
youcantcompthis
Hundred hundred so

17:32.16
youcantcompthis
I Alright a fell.

17:32.30
Adz
Um, but at that price point who I don't know if I if ah if someone sold offered you an Anthony Davis rookie for one thousand six hundred us

17:48.78
Adz
1 of those 33 cards

17:49.69
youcantcompthis
And I I would say I would pass and the reason is because I I would probably rather put my money to someone else and then the other thing for me personally at the moment I'm on this sort of. Autograph feast I'm just really into autographs at the moment. Yeah, and that's where I'm really like making my purchases at the moment and it's sort of 1 of 2 things. It's it's helping me to direct my spending into.

18:12.84
Adz
Faced.

18:25.67
youcantcompthis
In a direction that I wanted to and also I'm spending less on smaller cards because I'm saving up to buy autographs. So I'm actually I'm really enjoying myself in the moment look I'm not always buying rookie Autographs I'm also buying veteran autographs and that's sort of another avenue that I haven't.

18:31.32
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good point.

18:43.50
youcantcompthis
You know, really explored a lot of and um, look I'm just really enjoying myself at the moment in saying that this is 1 card that if you wanted me to buy an Anthony Davis Card is what I would buy and.

18:48.17
Adz
Um, yeah.

18:52.70
Adz
Okay, okay, but yeah that that pop count is very very very tempting very tempting for sure I just I don't know. The the thing is if if the lakers if he gets injured and he's out for the season that that card's a thousand dollar card again. All of a sudden I don't know where its floor is but the lakers put in a big run and Anthony Davis is part of another lakers championship then. Why is that not a $5000 card. You know what? I mean like it's got the potential to go both ways. But.

19:31.20
youcantcompthis
He knows now that you've got me thinking about this. He's definitely got the resume in terms of pedigree and he does have a championship but I wonder if you lay down his numbers and you actually might be a little bit underwhelmed by his.

19:41.18
Adz
Um, a.

19:50.68
youcantcompthis
Actual output that he's had we probably need to do a bit bit more of a deep dive into this you know, look at his sort of career numbers but he has so much potential. But that's probably the thing that is maybe at the back of my head also 2 of these guys.

19:52.80
Adz
Interesting. Why is it a D Yeah, the call like a question rather than a.

20:09.52
youcantcompthis
Got all this potential and maybe doesn't always you know, live up to it. But anyway 2015 excalibber Anthony Davis the boomm I I think this is where I'd be putting my cashche into so bgs 9.5 last sold for three hundred and ninety five I just want to really quickly go through some of the other grades on this. So the psa 10 did 4 56 and the bgs 10 which is pop one. Okay, so let's just disregard this last sale because it's sold for $100 but it hasn't sold for for 6 years now

20:46.62
Adz
Um, okay.

20:48.10
youcantcompthis
And just for fun. Let's look at the bgs 10 black which is hop one a again and that last sold in 2016 so

20:51.33
Adz
Which which could ah that's that's the innovation one with I got the 2013 could boom wrong one.

21:04.37
youcantcompthis
I interesting so card ladder has given this card a grade ratio value of one thousand three hundred and fourteen dollars that is a number that I'm actually completely in agreeance with look I was having ah off the often. Conversation with Ryan about these couple of days back and I think these are the cards that are going to have really excellent, long-term value so that will be the card that I'll be getting on this I really love this set to the 2015 for booms and delicious and.

21:34.20
Adz
My my question my my question with kabooms all right if you're buying Davis are you buying Lakers Davis or you buying pelicans davis.

21:41.25
youcantcompthis
Felt to.

21:46.79
youcantcompthis
And so my direct reply to that is it doesn't matter what the boom you buy, you can buy the Larry Byrne you can buy the scottie pippin you can buy the the Bari Smith Tyler her I think that.

22:05.43
Adz
Doesn't matter.

22:06.25
youcantcompthis
All in all in proportion and all in ratio. They've put them into your vault put them into you. You know you safe away from your kids. Whatever you get them out in 20 years I think they're there's always a card in each set. That's worth something and I think they're being scattered through different sets. Yeah.

22:13.41
Adz
Um, yeah.

22:23.21
Adz
Kabooms it? Yeah okay, you heard it here first. Get a kaboom put it in your vault. Well my question was more is is Anthony Davis going to be going to be remembered as a pelican or a laker.

22:25.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and with put it away. We've really sewayed here.

22:38.60
Adz
So that's why I was like if you're gonna go the kaboom route which one do you go.

22:41.39
youcantcompthis
You Oh sorry I didn't really answer that question then did a is he good it a rookie if you get a rookie pelican's one I think that's important if you get a lake as one I think just having the lakers pan out.

22:47.18
Adz
Personally I'd get the laker one because.

22:58.85
youcantcompthis
You know is definitely important So if Drymond green where are you out with Draymond green.

22:59.11
Adz
Yeah, yeah, cool.

23:07.73
Adz
I Said this off air and it's a bit more tongue in cheek. But I I so I did I can't condone anything he's done I think he's off the rails I think it's gone. It's beyond a joke. Um like I had a chuckle I did off air.

23:18.11
youcantcompthis
And so you compared him to rodman off the air. So talk to me about that comparison.

23:23.81
Adz
So I saw a post I saw a post on on just ah, a basketball talk ah page and someone's like you guys are acting like nobody's ever gone off the rails before and being completely off off off the reservation. Um. You? Ah maybe some of you are too young to remember the 90 s but there's a guy around called Dennis Rodman like before you start thinking that Draymond's doing anything new have a look at this guy and and you responded and said look like Rodman was a bit crazy. And and look it was it the last dance even Jordan said it. It's just like we let Dennis do Dennis because Dennis is gonna do crazy stuff right? So long as he turns up and plays and gets his 20 rebounds. We're good. But I I know I'm gonna guess that this is where you're gonna head is. Rodman wasn't as crazy on the didn't do he went to work on the court hit most of his crazy is off court for attention. His bad boy stuff I don't know like he backed it up. Rodman was.

24:36.16
youcantcompthis
He's yeah and he did so just he did do some crazy stuff in the court that like he did tick the camera and he kind of did you know like tackle people in the cord and and sort of flail his arms around so maybe actually.

24:36.98
Adz
Rodman's performance like he's a better player.

24:44.93
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:52.55
youcantcompthis
This is an amazing comparison of the 2 What why? I think about it.

24:54.70
Adz
But it's but my question is is does Draymond have the grounds to do this like is he just is he just flailing and like literally assaulting people because he can't play basketball as well anymore.

25:10.88
youcantcompthis
And this is the part where I'm actually transitioning to at the moment you know where does it become competition and where does actually become and I don't want to say unlawful but you know choking people and like he literally just punched nerke in the face like.

25:22.68
Adz
Um, yeah.

25:27.66
youcantcompthis
He tried to make it look like he was you know coming off balance and all that type of stuff. Yeah, it's like kicking Stephen Adams and then nuts and he was like oh I'm off balances I can know you weren't mate. You were just trying to cry to kick the guy in the nuts like that was as simple as that. So that's like.

25:28.95
Adz
Okay, if the hand was open or closed. He punched the guy in the face is ah it's yeah.

25:39.72
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

25:44.81
youcantcompthis
That's actually where I'm adding with this guy as I and I was asking this in a group chat he said do you ever know of an instance where play has been charged for assault because the one I was thinking about was when comemit Washington tried to punch another play but then Rudy T conly

25:56.10
Adz
Are oh.

26:03.35
youcantcompthis
Ran into the punt and then literally thinking he was half for for six months or something like visit. Why to look that up to see what the outcome of that was because.

26:06.71
Adz
Absorbed it. Yeah, it's It's funny because there's so much of this hold me back kind of mentality and Draymond Dramond gets in there doesn't get held back. You go it gets in there or he accidentally. Yeah.

26:23.25
youcantcompthis
He is he accidentally fails. Yeah, that's the thing isn't it anyway look So I think you know again, bringing this back to sort of Hobby you know relativity like where I'm at for me is I Always find this a little bit disappointing because.

26:29.60
Adz
Yeah.

26:42.17
youcantcompthis
I've really enjoyed watching the warriors Dynasty I think that's the right word to use for these guys and in some ways I kind of feel like the person who's actually suffering from this is Steph Curry because you know if he adds another championship to his regime regime like that that really does step you up that.

26:47.93
Adz
Oh.

27:00.44
youcantcompthis
Next step on the pantheon. So that's where I think this matters you know hobbywise and and ill saying in the last episode. There's no one tradedable on the wors that you you go through the contracts draymont is untradable Wiggins is untradable Chris Paul maybe you could trade or play Thompson.

27:02.30
Adz
Yeah.

27:16.19
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

27:20.19
youcantcompthis
Um, off he's coming to the end of his contract but they were proposing 2 years of 40000000 a year like trouble and that's like ridiculous think the person who would be traded or could be traded and his distant hurry.

27:25.86
Adz
Oh is that.

27:39.50
Adz
Yeah I agree I don't disagree I think um I think Harry Cur's windows curry's window is closing.

27:39.73
youcantcompthis
Yeah, um, well when I said this yesterday.

27:48.61
youcantcompthis
I when I said this the Ryan I was feeling a bit I felt uncomfortable about it and he disagreed with me and then I heard Kendrick Perkins say it on social media and that's what I knew I was wrong because Perkins is like he is completely out there.

27:56.16
Adz
Are oh.

28:04.22
Adz
Um, ah ah.

28:06.30
youcantcompthis
So I'm just going on the record saying that I'm doubling back onward I said Ryan's right they're never going to trade the guy like he's he's Dirk Nowittzky and he's Kobe Bryant yeah

28:11.33
Adz
No, he's not tradable. They get but but did he's he's is is an untradable asset. But so it ask it begs thequet a different. Different question is the warriors Dynasty done.

28:35.56
youcantcompthis
I isn't my disappointment and I think the answer is yes because they need dream on to win. Yeah, that's right and I think we're seeing it sort of slowly in front of our eyes and I think that's probably my where I'm also not sad, but you know where I'm a bit disappointed is that.

28:39.44
Adz
This is where the band breaks up. Yeah.

28:53.98
youcantcompthis
You know this is the end and we're and we're seeing this very slow sort of painful you know breakup of it and I don't think it should have ended like this I think that's it's a bad way for it to.

29:02.24
Adz
Um, and no, that's the.

29:10.82
Adz
I don't lie. Ah, yeah, that that's my that's the biggest thing right? mussy doing this year well go back to our lovely friend Steph because he's the one I actually I more concerned with this this year since you putting up is putting up.

29:26.32
youcantcompthis
Let's go.

29:28.17
Adz
Almost 29 points a game.

29:32.64
youcantcompthis
It's still very productive pro.

29:36.51
Adz
Um, like.

29:41.29
Adz
He's at that Mvp level still um but I like I don't think he's winning the Mvp this year but curry still got something left to give I think Drainmond's done

29:49.20
youcantcompthis
So here.

29:57.76
Adz
I think when Draymond's hitting people instead of playing basketball and doing what he does best and it's not being an enforcer. It's being that that really.

30:12.80
Adz
A defensive player of the year Draymond Green that's that's who they need they need defensive player of the year draymond and that player doesn't exist anymore as far as I'm concerned I think.

30:16.00
youcantcompthis
Grace. Yeah.

30:30.90
youcantcompthis
You he does so much of that. Well so I was just looking at this so far is on four championships. 5 championships is a pretty short list. Derek Fisher michael Cooper Don Nelson Slater Martin

30:31.23
Adz
That's what that's what they lose out on and does this hurts Curry's legacy

30:49.86
youcantcompthis
Kim Pollard Ron Harper this is the real juicy one magic Johnson and so those 2 have already been included in conversations before and at the end of the day. Everyone's going to say well magic was the better point guard. You have five championships.

30:52.69
Adz
Yeah.

31:07.61
Adz
Um, yeah.

31:07.75
youcantcompthis
The better around play out and that's it the conversation's finished whereas the debate is much more lengthier if step also has 5 championships own.

31:17.73
Adz
Yeah.

31:20.38
youcantcompthis
And through I think that's the part where and then hobbywise obviously and the value that goes along with having 5 championships I think that definitely changes a lot so all final thoughts on this. Let's not talk about dream on too much longer.

31:38.31
Adz
Yeah, um, just disappointing just disappointing. That's all I've got. Um, yeah, that's it. That's all I've got just disappointing.

31:47.00
youcantcompthis
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32:03.74
Adz
Well I was gonna say they have amazing trade days and I missed it I Hate moving house. It's the worst like sorting like sorting stuff out on weekends and I yeah I really wanted to get along.

32:05.81
youcantcompthis
Ah, you wire your cards over the counter and and.

32:15.26
youcantcompthis
I It was very ungrateful to ej cars we we both didn't go to the griff Anyway, look all the reports out of it was great.

32:21.81
Adz
You You were a bit further away than I was um, it granted but yes I was gonna get down trying to get down on the tenth I didn't make it now I Really wish I had because there was some amazing.

32:38.21
youcantcompthis
And basic saidgras.

32:39.69
Adz
An amazing set brought in.

32:43.76
youcantcompthis
But we'll put the link to this in the podcast description. You'll also find all of the the links to EJCards in the podcast description. But Adam I think you should do the honors on this because this is really your your wheelhouse I think that's the best way to say.

32:45.53
Adz
Um, um.

32:59.90
Adz
I did um our our lovely friend of the show sunny boy Koran messaged me asking if I if I could make it in because he didn't see me at the at the trade day.

33:16.50
Adz
And he I was like ah it was curious. He wanted to he wanted to show me something he really wanted to he really wanted to show me, um, a special set I guess is is special set the the right word. Um I don't think I can do it any any. Any Justice by just describing it. This is a.

33:38.12
youcantcompthis
You fi okay to say one of these cards are special. So how you then say that the entire set of a special cards is yeah.

33:50.11
Adz
Yeah, the first thing I the first. So for those that don't um that didn't see the the link obviously where are we do you know what? the sets called so before while Russell looks up the night that was the what.

34:00.60
youcantcompthis
Students of the games.

34:06.26
Adz
Something of the game.

34:06.59
youcantcompthis
And ultimate signatures. So.

34:09.11
Adz
Ultimate signatures now this is 24 of the greatest players to we've ever played our lovely game.

34:24.77
Adz
But the 4 key cards they showed in this video and we will put the link up. It's an amazing link. Um Carson Carson was running through the cards acquired. Are you ready for these names all on card.

34:37.69
youcantcompthis
I fine.

34:43.45
Adz
Wilt Chamberlain but right Bill Russell sorry I think wilts in there. No, he's not like he's not who's in it. No no, it wasn't that old. It's an early. It's.

34:46.28
youcantcompthis
I I say didn no wills in this sir. That's that's amazing If you was.

34:58.39
Adz
How what year is it from. It's an upper deck set is no panini 2000 and can't even see the year so o 6 so 7 anyway Kobe Bryant lebron James

35:00.92
youcantcompthis
The deckbergs.

35:18.32
Adz
Bill Russell and the goat himself Michael Jordan other notables I was trying to give the non-bias thing.

35:26.67
youcantcompthis
Who impressed with you that you didn't let it lay it down as Kobe is the go there 6 ah 7 ultimate collection signatures.

35:36.60
Adz
So is that is that come cool, some interesting one. Dr J I'm just looking at the images Chris Webber

35:42.88
youcantcompthis
I malow enough can yeah I Ammbia Chris bosh Steve Nash Jason Kid a keen worry made it into that set.

36:01.76
Adz
Um, had Jordan farmers in it. Ah.

36:02.33
youcantcompthis
Gor farmer ah Andrea baggerani I believe that's how he pronouncce his name and Brandon Roy naughty boyron williams rudy gay

36:10.37
Adz
Carmelo Anthony Dennis Rodman speaking of Rodman. Um, yeah, every wow but Bill Russell

36:23.96
youcantcompthis
Ity isn't it how the if rookies or the contemporary players I not aged well out of this set have the whereas the old timers. It just like.

36:33.50
Adz
No, but you've got like where you've got her came a came um, kid Julius Irving Nash so this some quality there bosh.

36:42.32
youcantcompthis
You made O niels in there. Yeah youma o' niils sort of stuck underneath the back there ripper. So.

36:50.92
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is um that is a crazy set but the fact that how many sets do you think are out there like think about it. Kobe Lebron. Jordan and Bill Russell like what do you say to that. It's a special set that is a um.

37:20.88
youcantcompthis
And that's I even it's the best way to say it. It's just a sleep beautiful set and congratulations to to Karen and his family you know, picking that up so been vaulted I understand and correctly sir.

37:25.64
Adz
Now. Yeah, now that was yeah that was um, yeah I'm I'm kind of sp that I didn't get the opportunity to come down and see it. But um, wow yeah, he wanted to show me the Kobe? Um I I wanted to say I would have liked to see all 4 to be. Honest, that's crazy. That's just it's an amazing set. Yeah anyway, yes, we'll be down there for the first. Um, the first trade day of the new year we we need ah we need a I don't know get some competitions or something happening.

38:08.13
Adz
Brainstorming with Jewels I got some ideas.

38:09.98
youcantcompthis
Sounds good so going from the highest of the high saying to the ulster low is a little bit unfair but just Primo Goshua Primo has been completely cleared of all of his charges so he is.

38:22.89
Adz
Ah.

38:28.80
youcantcompthis
He's back and you know there's nothing further hanging over his head legally at least anyway and I think that the rock correct the the writing was on the wall when the clip has picked him up because.

38:37.72
Adz
Charges have been dismissed.

38:45.61
youcantcompthis
I Think that when the clip has picked him up. They would have done all of their background checks and been very confident that it was going to go away or you know be imminently discharged so you know that's all happened in that space look I think people dumped this guy.

38:57.30
Adz
Um.

39:04.67
youcantcompthis
And dumped in pretty hard and you know there was lots of jokes and there was lots of fire sales and all that type of stuff so you know I think the real question is now that all those fire sales have happened is you know prices in the toilet so to speak. Do you does this guy or you know become a good purchase.

39:04.86
Adz
Yeah.

39:20.59
Adz
Is there is there a buy is is there a bifactor there.

39:25.70
youcantcompthis
I think you if you have no moral issues at all about you know what guys sort of do in their you know, personal and private lives and look I think the answer is yes I think you know he's still a very good prospect There's a reason why he was so highly drafted but I'm going to sort of merge this into the. Josh guiney thing I I do wonder if for some collectors that smear will never really be cleaned off entirely. So for me like primo becomes a bit of bit of a stayaway and I'm just going to leave that one at that. But.

39:54.24
Adz
Ah, it's fair.

40:00.47
Adz
Or what he's an asset right? Like as far as his basketball cards. Go I will say here's an asset and.

40:02.63
youcantcompthis
I Think there's definitely an angle there feet. There's definitely an angle out there for people to you know to buy him up cheap and then he'll be you know redeemed himself in the future. Yeah yeah.

40:19.37
Adz
If his numbers warrant sort of that So like a spike then maybe maybe there are people out there that go I Just want his rookie card. It's not about what he's done off the court. It's about that's about um, his numbers.

40:36.51
youcantcompthis
I seeing that the thing that's on my mind though with this guy is that I don't think this is going to be a quick flip by any means because he's on a very veteran team and I don't think there's going to be a lot of minutes available for him this year so

40:37.20
Adz
And performance with the clippers. So.

40:52.39
Adz
It might be a pre a premo game in the playoffs.

40:55.42
youcantcompthis
Does that make sense like maybe you know maybe that might happen. But I'm yeah I'm not too sure about that man.

41:06.83
Adz
You'll be paying cents on the dollar for his cards Anyway, So if you do if you do pick a couple up in a dollar box and he puts on ah an effort in a playoff game and as you make yourself a quick. $50 turnaround or something because of a spike yeah could on you. But yeah I don't think I don't think any of the supporters condone condone the behavior um and look with the giddy stuff. It's all I feel like the giddy things just murkier and murkier.

41:29.87
youcantcompthis
I Yeah um, this is like the ultimate.

41:41.31
Adz
As far as like what's yeah no I Guess no, one's got ah an actual story of what happened like the app we don't know what the facts are but.

41:55.12
youcantcompthis
I everything think so I think the way that Matt Yugo approached it was really interesting because he if you listen to even like what he spoke about. He actually didn't talk about any of the actual alleged things that happened what he did talk about those the people that have also done you know.

42:04.48
Adz
Ah.

42:10.75
youcantcompthis
Similar themes right? and that was very interesting because none of those guys recovered So that's the really like that's the big one for me with yeah.

42:12.13
Adz
Yeah, yeah, and I and that's well I don't even think if if Giddy Regard. So if it comes to light that Giddy's done nothing wrong. And it's just been painted in a certain way to paint a narrative I think that's I think that's evidence to show the power of the media on our hobby. Yeah, the court of public opinion is is yeah.

42:40.19
youcantcompthis
I social media I think that's um, undebatable yeah hundred percent but I clue no definitely not.

42:49.90
Adz
Yeah, anyway, we're not a legal show where we're tradey gadjo exactly.

42:56.55
youcantcompthis
Definitely not so the thing that was going through my head just then when we're talking about threema was the sort of a 3 year window and I've been very high on pa cunningham for the last twelve months and pitens at the moment been are really bad so they've lost 20 games in aura. So.

43:02.98
Adz
Yeah.

43:10.53
Adz
Are in the toilet.

43:15.81
youcantcompthis
So the thought that had been going through my head with cade was that maybe now is actually not the best time to be buying this kid because of how bad the pistons are and I actually haven't checked his comps for a little while so I was just doing that when you were talking about giddy so he last sold for $203 so

43:30.84
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

43:34.26
youcantcompthis
If you look at him in the last three months he's down 48% so and I didn't know that he was down 48% before I came into this so what I am Goingnna say there was I'm going to double down and what I was just saying sort of 2 seconds ago I think.

43:40.60
Adz
His tank. Yeah, he's plummeting.

43:53.41
youcantcompthis
I've got no problems with giddy I mean sorry with with Ed Cunningham if you want to buy tade cunningham now like go out and do it I still believe in his his potential but I'll probably also say too I wonder if buying Kate Cunningham is going to be more viable and in the next twelve months as opposed the next two or three months so

43:59.59
Adz
Yeah.

44:10.43
youcantcompthis
But I'm going to keep watching this because I'm segueing this into someone else who I know quite love dearly you know Darren Fox was down to 100 and something dollars. Um for his silver psa it tens less than eighteen months ago and you know now look what's happening to this kid. So.

44:10.72
Adz
Um, yeah.

44:18.34
Adz
Um, yeah.

44:26.17
youcantcompthis
You know this is a little bit of the nature of you know the beast that we sort of you know, operate in and you know if you think it's good value and you know it's too. You know good for you to pass up Mark against the trend and you know dip into it. Um, alrighty so getting back to the spreadsheet because we've just.

44:34.16
Adz
Um, yeah.

44:44.60
youcantcompthis
Completely segueed the last 2 things I went to them I went to the wizards and nets game which was an absolute blood bath. Um, well, it's really funny. So the answer to that is because you go over.

44:53.12
Adz
Um, why would you? Why would you expose yourself to that I.

45:03.62
youcantcompthis
For a holiday and then the schedule is what the schedule is right? so and look it was awesome. We had really good seats and it was a fun time. We got to see Harry Giles in in garbage time and he's just an absolute beast that guy god is enormous but look the 1 person or there was 3 standouts for me.

45:05.32
Adz
Dad That's true. That's true. That's true.

45:22.80
youcantcompthis
And the Washington wizards that cloud Cruz and office is completely disinterested and I think that whatever hobby value he currently has he's not going to go up any higher I think that this is it. There's nothing more that's going to happen for his kid's career. Gordon Paul you know I was making jokes about him leading the league and scoring this guy is just like oh. As much as you know Dra and draymond's fallen off the cliff. You know you could really make an argument He's equally fallen fallen off the cliff and I don't know what I don't know what happens to this guy he is for me an absolute stayway you in the hobby now the 1 shining light though. For the wizards was coolab Bali.

45:46.62
Adz
Yeah, Jordan pull his trash.

46:00.33
youcantcompthis
I think that you need to start prospecting this kid and I think you need to do 1 of 2 things you need to be. He's not on card ladder so you need to do it all manually. So just you know every one week every two weeks just sort of you know, go to one thirty point check out his pricing and then the second thing to do is just.

46:01.16
Adz
Um.

46:14.51
Adz
Check in.

46:19.17
youcantcompthis
Check his box calls and maybe even watch a wizards game used to see how he's going look I think his his effort is there his energy levels there and the other thing potentially is going to happen this wizards team is they're going to blow this thing up man either. They're going to trade the guys away or they're going to put cruismmer on the shelf and they're going to put cool on the shelf.

46:26.67
Adz
Yeah.

46:38.46
youcantcompthis
In the event that one of those 2 things happened you know someone's going to win out and my so my strong suspect here is is cool Bali. So yeah, yeah.

46:50.43
Adz
Yeah there's not much positive going on in um, in Washington the thing is and I'll and I make this is a little bit of a tongue-in cheek reference. But we're seeing this is about blowing rosters up and seeing where potential's coming from. You see it kind of like an elevator and escalator scenario where there are teams like Orlando and an Oklahoma City who've got these young cores that have they've added some pieces and now they're on the up they're they're they're rising and they're both doing incredibly well. You see a team like Detroit that haven't been as fortunate with what the pieces did like the pieces they've picked up. In fact, they've picked up the same piece over and over again in the hope that they find they're gonna have a team of point guards for some stupid reason but like and it's.

47:43.55
youcantcompthis
Motion.

47:46.10
Adz
Slowed their growth I still think Detroit are headed in the right direction and then you've obviously got the spurs that have got wemby. So but but you look at the wizards. Yeah, but you look you look at.

47:54.98
youcantcompthis
You That's fine. You keep going this and we'll come back to the pistons in a second. Yeah yeah.

48:03.57
Adz
You look at the wizards and and someone's like it's like 1 of those action movies where someone cuts the cable in the elevator there is no up for these guys and the problem is if they've only got one little shining light potential with youth. I think they I think that plays going to do well for a different franchise I think that's what keeps teams like that in the seller but any year. Yeah.

48:28.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah I think that's where I oh hundred percent budget it and and also it makes me almost angry is not the right word like go and get me wrong, but give them give me up on brui hatchimara it just makes.

48:42.99
Adz
It's yeah I'm super happy they gave up on ruey.

48:46.79
youcantcompthis
No sense at all. Do you know what? I mean like so hey, um, ah I just want to go through Hoton's roster because I don't disagree with what you're saying but I would probably say I just think their roster is maybe 2 years behind what. Magic of so just bear with me for a second right? So Marvin Bagggedley they picked him they picked him up for absolutely nothing all right? So for me I'm totally fine with that. That's a risk that they took if it works out great if it doesn't you know what? I mean whatever it's just like free talent. They picked up.

49:06.34
Adz
Fair fair F fair. Yeah.

49:16.64
Adz
Oh.

49:24.14
youcantcompthis
But picked up bog donovvi they need some veterans in the room I really like that guy I think he's a sensible guy Alec Bike's the same thing right? moving down the rostic cade cunningham I still think he can be an all Nba first team type player Galen Duran all right so the issue with this kid is that um.

49:28.12
Adz
Show. Yeah.

49:35.21
Adz
A home.

49:41.27
Adz
I Liked your in.

49:42.96
youcantcompthis
He's young he needs more he needs small time in the court right now. The person that you were referring to is killing hace so look. You're not going to get every single drive pick right? and if the worst pick that they make is Killian Hayes I'm actually not going to hold that against of the other thing about Killian Haes is that.

49:46.60
Adz
Um, yeah.

50:00.92
youcantcompthis
He might actually turn his career around because if he starts hitting 3 pointers with all the other things that he can do. He'll be a rotation nba player Jade and ivy he's fallen out of favor with the coach. It's not impossible that you'll you know, come back into favor I still like that kid's talent I've got no problems with that.

50:16.29
Adz
Um, ah.

50:18.72
youcantcompthis
Kevin Knox another young kid they took a swing on and moving further down the roster now this is the really the one I want to talk to you about Isai Stewart he's a big body 22 years old still now as you Tom said is a free.

50:27.66
Adz
Yeah students right? Thompson's the 1 you want to.

50:34.69
youcantcompthis
Is a freakish defender again. 20 years old who is still really young. So really 2 years away from being a good and Nba player and um, if you're talking about the things that people do right in the Nba in terms of effort defense.

50:35.59
Adz
Yeah.

50:42.68
Adz
Um.

50:50.85
youcantcompthis
Passing the ball you know taking the right shot selection. It's all there for him. He's just he just needs more time defensively I don't know the metrics on this kid. But if you said to me, he's a top 10 and Mba defender already I would not be shocked on that. Do you know what? I'm trying to say so yeah.

51:05.28
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what? So my my point my point there are bits that I like I don't what I don't like I feel like Orlando and and I won't go through the top to bottom of Orlando to counter. But I feel like they've put enough.

51:10.24
youcantcompthis
There's a lot to like about this roster? yeah.

51:24.67
Adz
Solid pieces in I think fults was a good pickup I think inggas is a great pickup as much as I don't think it's an on the court thing I think it's a culture thing I think the trainw wreck bigs. As I mentioned we called a friend and I called them a couple of weeks ago in Baggley and Wiseman. Do you not I mean like they're not. They've got Alec Alec Burkes as like they're some of their veteran leadership and look bok donovvi maybe but I feel like they're they're not They're not team guys. They're kind. They're they're there for their contract. They're there to get paid I I think Orlando have built better is it was the point that I'm making and I think Detroit they've picked up a couple of good players. But I think they're. They've um yeah I don't know but they've gone. They've got back to back to back. They've got ivy they've got Cunningham and they've got Hayes. That's 3 point guards with a furt with a with the top 10 pick as like.

52:37.12
youcantcompthis
If you don't get your your draft picks right? it it definitely you know creates a problem and I think just to further your point about the Allendo Magic I agree with you I think the magic at the moment are doing you know, really well and and.

52:42.36
Adz
Yeah.

52:53.88
youcantcompthis
And look and sometimes it comes down to a little bit of luck too and I think this also you can you can segue this into the banchero thing. So I don't think people realize how good this kid is and maybe it's going to take people like Paula Ventureer yeah like and it could be.

52:55.31
Adz
Yeah.

53:07.48
Adz
Palai and.

53:12.34
youcantcompthis
Point of them getting to the playoffs and then somehow making it to the second round of people like you know who is this kid the other thing you need to add to that to is is frans wachner so you know realistically like definite'd be a pretty good roster. But yeah, it's definitely better than the pistons roster. But if you like. You know I'm making like a very obtuse argument right now. But if you took out paullo banchero and you took out. Um Frans Wagner how much different is really this pistons roster to the magic roster if this pistons roster was 2 years down the road and I think that's really where this piston team is like it. Just 2 years away from being you know, anything remotely competitive. That's how I feel about them so look. It's up. Yeah.

53:52.82
Adz
yeah yeah I think their investment needs to be in someone that's going to develop their players. That's the that's the thing like Duran's got some trash around him. Yeah.

54:00.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and that's where I'm really, that's where I'm really struggling this year with um ivy like why they got ivy on the bench when they're clearly in a rebuilding mode like don't don't make him a 6 man.

54:11.86
Adz
Um, yeah.

54:17.63
youcantcompthis
Him 35 minutes a game and see where this kid pans out you know playing the shooting guard like it. Yeah yeah, um, back to back to the run machine ad so I feel like this week I'm really highlighting all the mistakes that I'll I'll be making so I'm I'm putting this in as a joke because.

54:18.85
Adz
Pump the kid full of minutes. Yeah for sure.

54:35.10
Adz
Um I.

54:37.17
youcantcompthis
I couldn't not put it in ah you know I can't pump this kid up and then you know this happened so this is from Rob Peres which has been a while since I've actually quoted some of his tweets but we have our first official snell so he's referring to the and Nba player Tony Schnell of the season for. And one that was only 2 minutes and 17 seconds shy of the record ao dos sumu 26 minutes versus the bucks zero points zero rebounds 0 assists 0 steals and 0 blocks.

55:10.40
Adz
Wow Just wo ye okay donuts absolute donnuts.

55:12.91
youcantcompthis
Very so so let's move on that. Yeah, this is a little bit non Mba but.

55:26.92
Adz
But.

55:31.59
youcantcompthis
I Saw this and I had to put it in sorry mate I interrupted you I.

55:34.64
Adz
No, um, um, um I've clicked the link I've waited to click the link.

55:39.96
youcantcompthis
This is from my my favoriteite twittererson eric whiteback you can't make this up Donald Trump just announced that he's selling raied cards of himself that contain an actual piece of the suit he wore to get his monk shot taken to get this card. You have to buy 47 copies of his digital trading cards costing $99 each for a grand total of four thousand six hundred and one dollars which would be us dollars so let's just do a quick conversion use of my currency conversion tool four six zero one is six Thousand eight hundred and sixty nine dollars Twenty Two cents australian 25 of the muk shot suit relic parts will also be signed now. Adam would you be interested in a signed Donald Trump mug shot ralic card and.

56:27.86
Adz
That.

56:34.36
youcantcompthis
Putting aside your political ideologies. Well.

56:38.65
Adz
Um, ah, there's nothing political about it. Um, would I maybe.

56:42.78
youcantcompthis
I hey you remember when they put George Castanza into some baseball set like imagine if they put this into like I don't know.

56:52.66
Adz
That's exactly what I'm thinking about. Do you want to Trump a Trump do a Trump Jersey auto

57:04.70
youcantcompthis
Flawless maybe and t maybe something like Citon or um.

57:11.81
youcantcompthis
You You can't tell me if they put that into Obsidian that you could you literally couldn't buy a box of Obsidian and.

57:24.90
Adz
I just oh my god I would ah you're talking to the man aboard a box of like 89 hoop so you get a a Sam Vincent card with Michael Jordan wearing number 12 So yes I would.

57:39.18
youcantcompthis
Oh god.

57:44.63
Adz
I'd be tempted by a Trump card. The fact that that no I'm just a like to get to get the card. You have to buy 40

57:48.62
youcantcompthis
I I see like for me they so after you.

58:01.70
Adz
What digital trading when did Trump Release digital trading cards. We're missing a point here and.

58:07.54
youcantcompthis
And earth.

58:13.75
Adz
Are they different cards.

58:15.24
youcantcompthis
It epic isn't it. It's just epic. This is the most crump thing that Trump could Trump honestly I just you know there's goldens um videos where he's he's. Pumping up the product imagine if Donald Trump did one of those like promotion videos where he's like you know sitting with this big american flag behind him and he's telling you how tremendous these cars are and you need to go out and get them or imagine if Alec Baldwin did a send-up and he he did the advertisement for it.

58:30.33
Adz
Oh my god.

58:48.45
Adz
Um I can imagine Ken Golden doing it and instead of being able to get Trump he got baldwin to come and help with the the I thought of it. Oh my god.

58:53.46
youcantcompthis
Swiftly.

59:05.20
Adz
What is the world coming to.

59:05.42
youcantcompthis
Right? Let's let's finish on ah from memorabilia cards clearly but now this is very russel- centric this last thing and I look I don't even care if so if you guys don't want to listen to this and we're going to talk about 1 and 1 just like sign off now. Thanks for listening take care.

59:13.69
Adz
Um, clearly same.

59:25.10
youcantcompthis
Um, one of 1 It's a 2 card hobby box. It has downtowns in it. It has timeless moments. It has rpas you know I really love all of those 3 cards I'm just I'm really I really think downturns are important.

59:40.13
Adz
Um, yeah.

59:44.48
youcantcompthis
I think the timeless moments are just beautiful cards and I think look where they stand long term look I don't really know I think they'll be okay, just for the fact that they they do pick big players and they also as the card describes they do pickate you know timeless moment. So. Like I think they'll be good but I think from a collector's point of view like people at pc those players think they're going to do really? Well so look that the checklist is long and and I'm not going to go through but 1 of them that I saw was a Bob Poozy but um, as I said before.

01:00:06.40
Adz
Chopped.

01:00:20.72
youcantcompthis
On an autograph chase at the moment I really want a coozy um it was oozy with a black and white photograph and then they put this beautiful green. You know cely green border around it and this big fat Bob Oozy autograph you know, right through the middle. It is just amazing and.

01:00:32.36
Adz
Um, yep.

01:00:39.46
youcantcompthis
Cards come in case looks just a fantastic set look Ryan had the perspective yesterday I'm not too sure if he put this on the pod or this was in a private conversation. Apparently someone on social media broke down the the return on these boxes. It's pretty tough so you know going to breaks I think that's the thing it's.

01:00:55.70
Adz
Ah.

01:00:59.14
youcantcompthis
Very much bible beware you know 28 or 29 people are going to miss out. Yeah, but if you fortunate enough to rip your own box with this I actually think this is probably the best box to rip because I and I need to say this this is the penini line is it on average.

01:00:59.42
Adz
So it is okay.

01:01:18.67
youcantcompthis
You know on average, you'll get 1 really good card in it. You'll generally get you know one rpa you would get 1 downtown or you'll get 1 timeless moment or you know one you know, fantastic autograph card and then you'll get the you know one base card. So um, look lie if you if you can't buy into 1 and 1 breaks.

01:01:21.67
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:28.80
Adz
Show. Yeah, okay.

01:01:37.71
youcantcompthis
I would say don't spare. You know, look on ebay because some of the resell particularly of the base cards. You know goes for pocket change. So you know there's that part of it too. It's it's a really funny product and that you know some of the stuff sells for thousands of dollars and some of it sells for. Ah, couple of dollars. So it's kind of a fun product like that too and iook personally are actually quite like picking up the base cards I think they're quite nice to you know, have a new pc so um, have you seen any of any of 1 on 1 or have you got any thoughts on 1 or 1 ad.

01:02:00.17
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:02:06.24
Adz
Um, yeah for sure.

01:02:11.98
Adz
Um I I've always liked the product I worry with I I haven't sort of delved into the the small packs we'll call them where you get a couple of cards in a box hobby box. For a while just because price point changes and things like that. But I do like that kind of product. Okay, what's so what's the price point this year for 1 on one roughly.

01:02:28.95
youcantcompthis
And the price of it's actually come down this year yeah so I think the sort of the RRp is around thousand to to twelve hundred usd sorry a u d.

01:02:42.98
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:02:47.63
youcantcompthis
But mistake but I was just I was actually just looking online and the prices actually come down a little bit so it's actually possible that in the next couple of months you might better pick it up. You know, cheaper than that. So yeah, yeah.

01:02:59.78
Adz
So it's it's it's yeah, my my only thing with stuff like that is if I'm at that price point am I going further for for other product. But I think one of one's a good, a good product. Yeah.

01:03:13.86
youcantcompthis
It. That's right I suppose the other thing too is wilder it really is Lett say though that greasy is just you know? fantastic.

01:03:19.16
Adz
And it's a good checklist too.

01:03:31.75
youcantcompthis
Was 1 more note I just wanted to just quickly touch on so in last year's set which was the seventy fifth pith set. So this was a really weird one because these cards also came out in noirre.

01:03:33.51
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:03:42.88
Adz
And.

01:03:44.77
youcantcompthis
And the seventy fifth signature set was number to 75 so and people went at this really hard and people were trying to get the whole set and then they they sort of did this thing where they released some unnumber ones unnumbered cards in 1 and 1 they also released a number to 49 set so

01:03:50.56
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:04:04.60
youcantcompthis
For me, it's sort of muddied to set a little bit and sort of devalued it. But on the flip side of that and also now that we're twelve months down the track I actually wonder if now is a really good time to sort of go back and you know grab a couple of those classes because I think aesthetically they're beautiful on card autographs you know on time is.

01:04:08.23
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:04:19.40
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:04:22.63
youcantcompthis
All-timers and people do sort of get swept up into you know, sort of hot fresh products So that's probably the other thing I'm going to be doing at the moment is just queuing up of queuing up a few of those and checking them out. So.

01:04:31.71
Adz
Looking for.

01:04:39.77
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah, fine. Um, it's good. It's just good to be gibby back. We've got some. We've got the the Christmas.

01:04:40.59
youcantcompthis
My idle thoughts. Mr Amy of of this week's episodes.

01:04:50.67
youcantcompthis
It's good to be back.

01:04:54.70
Adz
Games or Christmas day games is just boxing day down here coming up which I'm looking forward to watching to be good. Um, yeah I'm yeah thinking about what I'm what I'm gonna spend my my my Christmas dollars on um, just for some.

01:04:56.88
youcantcompthis
And.

01:05:11.12
youcantcompthis
And once.

01:05:14.67
Adz
Well, it's it's ah it's a thought. Um I don't know if I want to go on any of the buy new lower end stuff on a wembby chase or a yeah I don't know I don't know we'll see we'll see how it all goes. But yeah, it's good. It's good to be back. It's good that there's lots happening in the hobby. Not all bad. Although Draymond's an idiot. Um yeah I um I think there's lots happening hobby wise I think there's lots happening in the sport I think it's it's a good time to be ah, an Nba fan right now. So yeah, it fun. Lot of fun.

01:05:53.59
youcantcompthis
I I think I'm going to wish everybody a very very safe Christmas because only eight days took Christmas ad and hopefully we.

01:06:03.60
Adz
Yeah I'm like I but are we I'm I'm hopeful that we can. We can get something up. Um, yeah, just as long as if enjoy the silly season. Um.

01:06:08.74
youcantcompthis
I let's probably work out something else. But if we can't I just wanted to make sure I wish everyone you know a very safe and happy Christmas and we yeah, thanks for all of your support. Yeah.

01:06:19.89
Adz
Um, I'm sure they'll be yeah yeah, don't don't don't do your nana and yeah, lose it get down at Ejs and and and check out check out their what they've got going on for Christmas. Yeah, no one losing their mind at at like the Christmas sales while they're doing all their Christmas shopping.

01:06:27.36
youcantcompthis
So do it go do a draymond.

01:06:37.58
Adz
And um I know choking out a store attendant or something crazy like that just keep your temper. Don't go shopping with draymond if you see him russell over in I don't know why he'd be in Boston but who knows don't try and put on a Boston accent either I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it. They might like it actually who knows. Knows some of that aussie charm.

01:06:59.21
youcantcompthis
I'm walking here. Yeah. It already does. Thank you so much.

01:07:04.46
Adz
Oh god I'm just thinking of movies like the town. Anyway, you have a great. Yeah great. Great Christmas everybody um enjoy a white Christmas hope is it white over there for you white Christmas so snow and stuff cold.

01:07:14.91
youcantcompthis
I A lot of the moment that we're hoping for some snow. Yeah freezing.

01:07:20.33
Adz
Cool well hoping hoping it's a white Christmas over there for you hoping for the opposite here. But yes, thanks everyone. Love your support. Um, yeah stuff we'll speak to you soon? they over Run stream is dead.

01:07:31.29
youcantcompthis
This is less.