Episode 122: HAPPY NEW YEAR!! We kick off the year with my favourite thing; a juicy trade between the Knicks Raptors ; and we break down the full hobby implications of what played out.
- Ja Morant Game winner;
- Championship Collection Repack:
- Luka doncic. Seventh fewest games to get to 10k points.
- New year card resolutions.
- Jordan metal shredders
- Who is Craig porter jnr.
- Bulls related road trip; Coby white, Ayo, Tyrell Terry
- Haliburton back to back 20/20 games.
- Jalen Johnson,
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Episode 122: HAPPY NEW YEAR!! We kick off the year with my favourite thing; a juicy trade between the Knicks Raptors ; and we break down the full hobby implications of what played out.
- Ja Morant Game winner;
- Championship Collection Repack:
- Luka doncic. Seventh fewest games to get to 10k points.
- New year card resolutions.
- Jordan metal shredders
- Who is Craig porter jnr.
- Bulls related road trip; Coby white, Ayo, Tyrell Terry
- Haliburton back to back 20/20 games.
- Jalen Johnson,
Thank You to our sponsors EJ Cards Online Store and Facebook, ‘The Bang Man’ Facebook and Instagram and our new sponsor SlamBox and DJs Trading Cards.
Reach out to us on socials and tell us what we got right or wrong!
Instagram: youcantcompthis
Twitter @youcantcompthis
Gmail youcantcompthis@gmail.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/youcantcompthis
00:00.60
Adz
Just a couple of continents away all right? we are we are live brilliant all right? Um, yeah, count me in give me some music. What is it 1 2 3 episode 1 2 3 good.
00:00.61
youcantcompthis
I'm just twisted. Yeah I Um yeah I'm life my I'm I'm recording my and I should say yeah.
00:15.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.
00:27.95
youcantcompthis
So any on a second That's not the right one. Let's try that again. Yeah yeah, totally.
00:32.50
Adz
Ah, tell Ah, the magic of live television.
00:47.23
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 123 of the you can't comp this Mba trading card podcast where your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson happy New Year us it's um, it's it. It's it's 2024 um, it would have been funnier if we done it we had done this yesterday because it would have been like the overlap would have been 2024 here and 2023 there and.
01:05.72
youcantcompthis
I Ah yeah, happy New I didn't even set it to offline Sorry Ma yeah.
01:21.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, hey, um I'm looking for a lot I too lazy yesterday I did I getting my mind into a a loop right now. Actually oh yeah.
01:23.80
Adz
Like talking from the past to the the press. Ah, just yeah, we could ah it'd be like a sci-fi episode. That's it I'd be like I'm talking to you from the future. Ah.
01:39.56
Adz
Ah, we're back. It's 2024 a new year I haven't joined a gym I'm not joining a gym so that's it's surely and then they signed you up to a direct debit you you cancel in november.
01:40.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I Ove you not joined a gym. It's free joinup at the moment surely.
01:56.13
Adz
Of the year and then join back again in January and go all of 3 times I feel like is the I don't know that's the that's the new year the the new Year's resolution membership. But yes, not.
02:08.44
youcantcompthis
They should They should write up a package exactly for that. Yeah.
02:15.61
Adz
Yeah, is that the special New Year deal which is even harder to cancel because we know you're gonna want to cancel it high cancellation fees. Um, but yes, all right? We we here we made it to another year. Um.
02:32.94
Adz
How was your how was your new year's mine was pretty pretty low key pretty pretty chill. We made it through safely.
02:40.10
youcantcompthis
Flip to answer was really chilled the highlight of our day was that it snowed so we ah we built a snow man and we did some snowball throwing and then out the highlight of our evening I was just watching Tv and just going to bed but it was very like 2 kids in know I mean it's yeah, it's very low here.
02:45.23
Adz
Nice.
02:56.75
Adz
Yep, yep, totally totally understand that awesome little bit's been happening in the Nba.
02:58.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so.
03:01.57
youcantcompthis
We now let's get to Nba that's far more interesting than my lack of social life ads.
03:06.10
Adz
Yeah I feel like our our our lack of of of party party stories. It's probably worth talking about what's going on in the Nba we we have a trade do we so we want to open with the trade.
03:18.10
youcantcompthis
In Sydney yeah let's start with that. So I think the best way to summarize this trade is offense for defense. So toronto rap is needed offense in the worst probably way possible and frankly, we've spoken about this um on the show in the last few weeks. And then Tom Tiberto who's probably I actually don't know his exact position in the power struggle or the power structure in New York but I'm sure he has a very big say in you know what goes on but I'm praying for you know every New York fan that he doesn't have to find or say on every trade but I feel like this is.
03:47.61
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
03:54.61
Adz
You'd like to hope not.
03:55.48
youcantcompthis
Tom Titer he has been wearing down. You know the general manager or whoever you know has the executive say on the trades and he's basically traded offense for defense so look I actually think the fun thing about this trade which probably should run through what it was so New York is sending away ah Rj Barrett Emmanuel Cle and a pistons 24 second round pick and then Toronto was sending back oji anobi pressure secure and Mallochi Flyn so you know the obvious thing and I think this actually came up in the comments from 1 of our own listeners is.
04:25.60
Adz
Ah.
04:32.89
youcantcompthis
Who's going to replace. Basically you know the 50 points of offense that they're losing with Arjo Barrett and quickly because quickly's actually scoring a decent amount of points off the bench. You see that.
04:44.86
Adz
He's actually not too shabby although I don't know New York you looks always surprised me with the moves they make.
04:49.53
youcantcompthis
And things the thing that I like about this trade the most I feel like this actually has helped both teams because toronto needs. Ah Rj Barrett more than they need preface thature and og and newby and I feel like the knicks need.
04:58.29
Adz
Ah.
05:02.23
Adz
True.
05:08.30
youcantcompthis
Og so much more than what they need ah Rj Barrett and I part that I'm a little bit unclear about though was why would you give up on someone like ah Rj Barrett at this point in their career because you've just given them like a pretty large contract but not something that is.
05:09.51
Adz
A grade a grade.
05:17.14
Adz
In.
05:26.71
youcantcompthis
Creating burden on your team like the Evan Faer contract that's what's creating burden financially on the knicks like definitely not ah, Rj Barrett and then he was definitely making progress every year he's becoming a more efficient player and actually when the ball's in his hands. In some ways I probably like that more than Randall do you know what? I mean so that's the pun. That's the part where I'm a bit confused about to be honest I know you're like ah you're a big Randall fan but in my mind I would probably try and move randall before I'd move Barrett.
05:48.88
Adz
Yeah, ah although Randall's been
06:00.87
Adz
Yeah, look I think Randall's definitely a consideration as far as pieces to move but he seems to do enough for the team Randall if that makes sense. Ah he comes up big for the knicks.
06:10.61
youcantcompthis
So.
06:16.36
Adz
So I don't think they want to get rid of him I think I think he's a very New York I frankly think he's a very New York player
06:17.47
youcantcompthis
Free. And I think that's actually the reason why I actually think they wanted to get rid of Aja current and that's probably where I'm going I'm sort of almost waiting to hear you know the rumblings or you know he didn't do this or he didn't do that and you know in the sort of the the backend sort of Twitter stuff. Yeah.
06:33.98
Adz
No I Not even that I Just yeah I think this just he doesn't fit I think they just didn't want him.
06:40.50
youcantcompthis
That's where I'm at with are Barrett and I think for the rap as this as an absolute no-brainer it just eases the log jam of all that sort of very similar talent that they had of you know spicy pe s scottny bynes oh ge that was just too much of the same thing and. I think moving for that and also too they they get a little bit of youth and I think that's really important because yeah, so the trajectory of that team like they're not really trying to win right now I think they are looking ahead. You know spotty Barnes is not going to be in his prime for another three years and I think aot probably.
07:00.26
Adz
Yeah, for the raptors that is important.
07:10.39
Adz
Yep.
07:14.54
youcantcompthis
You know, fits in together with that a little bit better. So the conspiracy theorists out there are saying well this is about selling Jersey so ah Rj Barrett's Canadian he goes to toronto you know that's a really big deal and um, yeah, that.
07:17.47
Adz
Um, yep.
07:25.28
Adz
That make that makes a lot of sense. We've got it in the comments Anthony Mil just ordered my raptors RJBarrat Jersey
07:39.35
youcantcompthis
You well fanatics will have that to you in two days mate don't stress too much about it. Yeah, so look I think what we should probably do now is you know do an actual hobby breakdown of this because I think that's what we're really here for and I've got ah I've got a few thoughts about this. But I think.
07:41.26
Adz
Dead. Don't you worry.
07:49.14
Adz
E.
07:56.41
youcantcompthis
I'd like to hear your thoughtss first made because I had the floor for quite a long time but you do whoever you want man is I've got like a little bit of a a raft.
08:02.38
Adz
That's all right? So who are we gonna break down first.
08:08.95
Adz
Ah, you've got a raft. Let's get onto the ladder. Let's get onto the ladder.
08:12.93
youcantcompthis
Because I don't think the Hobby impacts adjust for the people that are in the trade.
08:23.45
Adz
I agree I agree that the changes in the team are um.
08:34.89
Adz
I cant impact everybody sorry I've just brought up og and Anoby's um silver I meannna talking big bucks at the moment but where around me 1 year to dooooo do do.
08:51.65
Adz
Right? there's been note there's been bugger or movement in the last few months though g and and obby's silver PSA 10 is is pretty much a steady commodity at fifty bucks fifty us by the looker.
09:06.56
youcantcompthis
I.
09:07.96
Adz
Like it's had the it spikes in a few drops but it still it seems to just be over 1 year the $50 Mark wow okay, 2 years oh but that's the crazy. That's the crazy the the crazy time.
09:25.21
youcantcompthis
It's really hard to to factor that into your speculation isn't it. You know, moving forward. But.
09:26.56
Adz
Hundred and eighty us yeah yeah but I look if you if you go past say April Twenty Twenty Two which is where it sort of come down I think that's the end of the spike right. April May Twenty Twenty two so anything after that season is pretty.
09:51.70
youcantcompthis
I I think the rational com for og is Jaylen Brown where it's someone who you think has got a reasonable amount of talent but the price doesn't match the equation. You know what I mean are you lucky? so.
10:04.10
Adz
I like I I do I do like the um, the talent kind of the the comparison because.
10:10.99
youcantcompthis
And if you look at pricecing you think this would be a little bit higher than what it is so I think if you are someone who's loaded up on og you know this is the type of thing that you're waiting for you like this guy's got talent this class needs to get onto a national stage. You know to people to get on him. So I think him going to New York
10:14.27
Adz
Yeah.
10:26.47
Adz
On.
10:28.56
youcantcompthis
You know in terms of the Hobby winner here like I think the Hobby winner here is is Og and a newbie I think that's like there's no, there's no further conversation. We need to have right? like that's done and dusted. So.
10:35.22
Adz
Correct correct that that just seems obvious to me because its last so price was like fifty eight bucks I'm like is a $50 card probably a hundred dollar card but that's what you get for living in Toronto. Um.
10:45.32
youcantcompthis
And like yeah, definitely but I got to tell you in my mind. The biggest wiener here is Jalen Brunson because if you think about the just the pure offensive numbers right? So Barrett goes. Let's just say that's 25 possessions a game.
10:58.78
Adz
Ah.
11:04.22
youcantcompthis
In terms of you know dribble drives in terms of shots paid and you know this this? Yeah he you'll do a couple of assist game constant turnovers and essentially that's now going to be either in onsen chains which I think is going to be the big winner in terms of usage right here of course your boy Randall and then.
11:05.75
Adz
Yep.
11:18.70
Adz
unless unless Randall's got something to say about it.
11:23.50
youcantcompthis
Then Randall will have a few more touches I think no doubt and then of course ohg' is going to get some touches to they're not going to bring this kid in and not play him like I think I've got to be the man I think chips is going to play this kid 35 to 38 minutes a game like this in terms of flo.
11:31.51
Adz
Fish on.
11:38.48
Adz
Tibs plays all these boys to death.
11:41.33
youcantcompthis
He does. But I think there's some people that he just has that you know really sort of special connection with and my sort of gut feeling with o ge is that I think those 2 are going to click together in a really powerful way is probably the best way to say it to be honest I think those 2 are you know ah made for each other.
11:47.18
Adz
Ah.
11:59.62
youcantcompthis
So I think yeah hobbywise for me Ashley Brunton is probably the one where I'm a little bit disappointed with is precious because I've sort of got a low-key. Um, third you know rate pc and you know this guy you know hoping for him to pop up. You know I think the problem in New York is they've already got 2 pretty decent.
12:00.10
Adz
Um, yeah.
12:19.31
youcantcompthis
Could even argue 3 pretty decent centers there. So the studies that are at moments injured then I've got harttenstein and then the other guy that got Jericho seems who's like a big body and he's been playing you know, well enough that he's probably going to get say 12 minutes a game. So I think the high end you know, output of precious is.
12:19.81
Adz
Any.
12:38.55
youcantcompthis
Going to be 8 minutes a game but if he can play the four which is not out of the question when it comes to someone like tibido playing big lineups. You know, maybe he'll do a right? but um, that's the one I'm probably you know the most worried about you know in this equation? Yeah, right. The one who I think we should be low- key speculating on those emmanual quickly because coming out of college. He had all the talent in the world. He didn't get a lot of run in college and then you know went straight to the pro. So there was a little bit of a speculative draft pick I think the issue is again.
13:01.93
Adz
Yeah.
13:13.77
youcantcompthis
Everything sort of comes back to Tibbs doesn't it I don't think he was ever going to get the the run in New York under tips and so if you talk about you know, taking the shackles off somebody and letting them play I think the the probability and the possibility for that in Toronto is definitely there. So.
13:26.39
Adz
A.
13:32.67
youcantcompthis
If he does have the talent and he you know he's got the nba spit you know I think you're going to see it. It's basically going to be now or never so I think if you're actually going to be betting on someone especially for a low low-end sort of prospect quickly is the one that's probably catching. Yeah is the 1 ne's catching ah the most.
13:46.66
Adz
New Ran Quigley The only the only thing I say Hobby wise is if a player goes um to toronto like is that there there their hobby value just going.
14:00.70
youcantcompthis
I Hoby this. But.
14:01.55
Adz
Like taking the long way the the long way to the toilet like is it just a slow death. Is it burning out is it and that's no offense that like I don't understand Hobby Wise. There's a whole country for 1 Team. So it. It. It shocks me that there's such a low Market Hobby wise for players going to the raptors.
14:25.19
youcantcompthis
You yes I think you you are right to a degree but I'd also say too people still watch the and Nba in they watch the krono rafters play like you know I mean it's not the only. There's not only toronto people who are buying Torontocar delv to is. He's actually in a.
14:35.85
Adz
Yeah, it's not yeah.
14:44.80
youcantcompthis
New York uniform as a rookie card for quickly. So I think look maybe I'm being too optimistic about this. But at the same time too I think in terms of someone's.
14:54.48
Adz
Look look at the moment we're we're not talking. We're not, we're not talking um, hundred dollar silver prisms like we're like the people have picked him up for as little as ninety nine cents the silver prism in the last few months they've also
15:12.30
Adz
Paid up to what sick last sold for $16 58 for a raw silver prism.
15:17.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so if you look at his three month data he's actually up two hundred and seventy percent so even before this trade you know people you know, definitely getting on board with this kid looking. But I think the part that.
15:22.40
Adz
He.
15:32.60
youcantcompthis
You know can't be ignored if he goes out and averages 18 points and say hey assist I think that is going to get him some attention I think that's probably you know where I'm leaning to with all this.
15:40.45
Adz
That's yeah, that's that that's definitely a consideration I think he'll get some attention. Um, but I definitely don't think the spotlight will be on him in the same way as say oj coming to to New York and I think it's the opposite? Yeah yeah, yeah.
15:54.68
youcantcompthis
Definitely not no, definitely not? yeah yeah, final thoughts before we start talking about Jama earth.
15:58.30
Adz
Opposite levels of attention.
16:03.76
Adz
What a what a trade though like it's It's nice to see these potential win win trades happening in the league I'm definitely Yeah yeah I don't think um yeah I don't.
16:10.30
youcantcompthis
So it's definitely one of the better traits. We've seen for a while.
16:20.93
Adz
Ah, don't think it's of the level of the the Sir Bonus Halliburton trade but it's it's it seems like it's positive for both teams definitely seems positive for both teams.
16:27.80
youcantcompthis
I left.
16:39.60
Adz
Yeah, you just said a name that it excites me a little. He's back all right.
16:42.80
youcantcompthis
He Karmaat is back. There's no doubts about this. He's looking fantastic. He's playing hard you know everything in my all the boxes are being ticked for me so this is a really quick check-in I just want to talk about.
16:57.43
Adz
Yep.
16:59.18
youcantcompthis
Couple of the the gameline that he's had so this was against the pelicans 40 minutes 31 points only 1 of 7 from from 3 I mean that can be addressed 4 rebounds 7 assist 1 steel 2 blocks, another game against inlanta hawks.
17:07.69
Adz
Yeah.
17:18.26
youcantcompthis
Probably not quite as good in terms of the plus minus these these couple of games that I've been talking about but still 30 points 1 of 3 from 3 6 rebounds 11 assists. You know these are all Nba numbers even though he won't be allegible for the all Nba this year but
17:31.70
Adz
That's true true I think it's funny I think it's funny so he's gonna I'm just gonna point this out that after after boxing day he'd been back for 3 games and has a.
17:36.83
youcantcompthis
There are.
17:41.42
youcantcompthis
Up to me.
17:48.99
Adz
Has more winds on the board than Detroit.
17:52.90
youcantcompthis
Leave Detroit alone.
17:56.36
Adz
Ah, ah, um, but it's just good to see him back. It's see good to see him bawling out his. It's It's good to see. It's actually ah I Hope he's learned his lesson His basketball game hasn't suffered by the look of it at all. Um.
18:11.64
youcantcompthis
He team has paid a very steep price for him being away and they did not handle his absence. Well at all. They've been 4 and 2 since he came back and um saucy from double coverage also likes to do like I think they're called sausy picks or something like this. He.
18:15.62
Adz
E.
18:20.30
Adz
The.
18:30.59
youcantcompthis
Saying that a good bet at the moment is to bet that the grizzlies will get to the playoffs we were talking about this on the pod before I saw Sourcey's little bit on that I I'm not too sure that um, ah given that they're going to get back in the west is just an absolute.
18:38.31
Adz
Um.
18:46.40
Adz
I Don't know I don't I don't think it's a given but I don't see it is impossible. Um, it is. It is very deep. But I think.
18:50.84
youcantcompthis
It's just a murderous rush. Definitely not impossible but it's just the west is so deep enough. Yeah.
19:01.89
Adz
The grizzlies look a lot more like the grizzlies with Jarmarant there do what I mean like they didn't if they they I don't know they've lot. They'd lost their their identity without jar there and with all these injuries and. And it seems like he's rejuvenated their list. You know what? I mean like he's like given them that that that belief and that's why I mean that's ah, that's what a leader does. So I think it's It's good to positive. Um, yes, it's a balsy bet but I don't know. Ah, be I I wouldn't I wouldn't write that off the the grizzlies making the play in maybe frightening a couple of teams who knows.
19:43.11
youcantcompthis
Yes.
19:50.56
youcantcompthis
Hard valuewise his silver p a 10 last sold for 5 65 in the last three months that's up 36% I think that people who have written out this episode of jamara's career I think they're going to be okay, he. I think he's going to be totally totally fine. The interesting thing if you go back to 1 year though that was trading pretty regular $1000 so he has had a steep decline you know in the previous in the first six months in the last twelve months
20:11.79
Adz
Um, okay.
20:20.95
Adz
Yep.
20:27.13
Adz
Yeah.
20:29.12
youcantcompthis
Im sure there's a more erdnomic way to say what I just said. But um, you can also see a very steady sort of you know triple uplets here. So it's currently trading at five sixty keep you in mind. It's been around $1000
20:37.95
Adz
Yep.
20:44.41
youcantcompthis
Where are you at with his card Now this is a buy-holder self you.
20:48.18
Adz
Um, or looking at the the look at the 6 Oh it's a buy. It's a buy. He's not a 500 old flyer. Let you know how we say we've got these these categories. He's.
20:49.79
youcantcompthis
You right now after you've what you've just seen is he's back. He's healthy. He's playing Well right? yeah.
21:05.80
Adz
He's much higher. He's a number one. He's the number 1 guy in in Memphis and his value doesn't doesn't reflect that currently.
21:16.80
youcantcompthis
I so I was in the knife shop in Chicago this week and on the first floor which is sort of where they put like the pictures little brone James and you know Jordan there was also a very large stand for jama at.
21:29.66
Adz
Yep, A wow.
21:33.10
youcantcompthis
Actually let me read. Let me rephrase it a very large section for Jama around. So his popularity is ongoing I don't think that yeah I think that's what we're talking about you know yeah and his character. Yeah, and his characters survive this and I think.
21:43.17
Adz
For better use of a term. He hasn't been canceled. Um, he's very much still back and in the spotlight. Yeah.
21:52.20
youcantcompthis
If we link that back to sort of the you know again card wise and part hobbies up the fruger factor I think all of that is still there. So I think probably my my trouble is is the problem this though so hop on this one thousand 588 and I think
21:59.23
Adz
Yep.
22:05.46
Adz
1488 is that what it was ah but I read.
22:11.96
youcantcompthis
You know, keeping in mind the the conversation we had with Ryan when he came on from jimmraid and he's talking about putting together population reports not just cross like psa bgs sgc. So I'm not going to sit here and add them all up but like that very easily could go to the.
22:23.28
Adz
And.
22:30.36
Adz
Yeah I think the pop count the pop count is gonna is gonna put a ceiling on it.
22:30.49
youcantcompthis
3000 but that's probably the only thing and that's what sort of makes me wonder I wonder if the ceiling is around that sort of six fifty seven hundred like realistically do you know? what? I mean like it does if if if you had a card number to 3000 would you be racing out to spend $1000 on it.
22:55.20
Adz
That's a really good point. That's a really good point.
22:58.60
youcantcompthis
And that's the only thing that was I had with this and full credit full credit to Ryan for that to see you the the genesis of that idea? yeah.
23:03.28
Adz
Yeah I. Sure Well, That's it like the pop count's always been one that sort of sits with me but it's it's how does it limit What impact does it have and.
23:15.90
youcantcompthis
And.
23:24.65
Adz
Because I see jar morant as one of those top 5 Mvp candidate level players where like and that's his impact on the league at like year to year obviously that's not happening this year and and even to impact the Mvp race at all. Would take a quite a phenomenal run and because of the number of games yet I think they specified with that. Yeah yeah, um, but future wise I those those players
23:46.33
youcantcompthis
I' going to he's Ill legible because of the number of games they suspended I Actually I think they deliberately suspended him? Yeah yeah.
24:02.78
Adz
Don't sit around that 5 to $700 mark there that's why I was shocked was it last week. We're talking about Tatum and then Tatum is criminally underpriced same as brown but it's I don't think we're looking at maybe they're correctly priced at present.
24:04.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.
24:22.10
Adz
But I just feel their future value is a bit higher than that I don't know.
24:23.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look release with Tatum this what a third or half of the pop right? Yeah yeah.
24:30.56
Adz
It's 800 or something like it's it's half the population of this. So yeah I don't know that pop count look maybe maybe that's what's going to hold Zion Jar Luca
24:45.62
Adz
Yeah, there is a lot of them out there. So maybe maybe we're looking at we should be looking at numbered stuff for the value in Jama Ant Blue ice. Wow.
24:55.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, numbered unfa orders.
25:02.82
youcantcompthis
Talk to me.
25:07.81
Adz
Anyone got a blue ice to one ninety nine of jamarant what hasn't been this card hasn't been sold since um April Twenty Twenty two but it was last sold for 20 which is the crazy period right.
25:19.11
youcantcompthis
I That's a that's the giggles. Oh what did sell for.
25:24.63
Adz
Last old 22800 card ladder value which is where I'll actually read this because because the pop county 6 number to one ninety Nine card ladder value 8640
25:42.91
youcantcompthis
Good.
25:45.14
Adz
Now I think that's a good adjustment because April Twenty Twenty two were talking I was just talking before about that January to April bit being the the final stage of the spike before things corrected. And that's when it sold. So I think 8000 for that card makes sense but look at that pop count 6.
26:12.85
youcantcompthis
That Yeah, that's the it's called Standard isn't it.
26:19.33
Adz
Me bit. Well there we go um bgs 9.5 which is obviously not the same last solve for 16 16 75 in June 2023 pop count of 8
26:27.25
youcantcompthis
It's the cave's still yeah, right? Okay I think that's a very shrewd purchase. Actually you know pop it send off to pays air. Yeah.
26:39.15
Adz
Psa Eight hasn't sold for a while. There's not many of these the blue ice ones that go I've gone around interesting.
26:48.20
youcantcompthis
That is yes I ready so I have continued on and have continued on.
26:54.60
Adz
Anyway I don't know yep, this was a quick check in with Jama Rant so let's ah.
27:05.18
youcantcompthis
I have continued goinging around to a couple more basketball stores I have gone to a couple more retail shops I found a well-stocked Target um, and I picked up this box called a championship collection. So this is a little bit of a holiday story and the comparison to you help you understand it really easily. It's.
27:09.95
Adz
Yep.
27:24.37
youcantcompthis
Like a blasster version of the bangman box so cost $20 us it said that it came with 2 hobby packs 5 factory sealed packs and then 15 cards which literally came in a box that I would describe as like a.
27:26.40
Adz
Yeah.
27:42.43
youcantcompthis
Which box card box but made for cards. It was really weird and it in 15 cards including 1 game used or autographed card. So I thought for $20 you know why not give it to go so I did get.
27:48.85
Adz
I Love america.
27:56.55
Adz
Yeah.
28:01.80
youcantcompthis
Ah, Don Ross packet but it was actually retail. It wasn't a hobby and then I got um the university cards which were really popular this year with wen Bena but it was the chet. It was the year before I like with Chet Holgram in it and then the other packets I got with these cards that I've never. Never heard of in my entire life before so they're called they were basketball. They're called tro picks 21 22 premier basketball where it's essentially it's like a private company and they actually had agreements with all players that were in the checklist. So Chet was there Josh Giddey was there.
28:19.59
Adz
Were they basketball.
28:37.50
youcantcompthis
Debbie on Mitchell was there Benedict Matthew in vaai so I got like a few kind of cool cards. But um, the best I got was like a green green parallel. There's no autographs or anything like that look ah the the patch that I got out of the 15 random lot was a wally I even said this guy's name czabat is when he's been.
28:41.30
Adz
Interesting.
28:53.82
Adz
Yes, wow.
28:56.46
youcantcompthis
Played for Boston so I got a boston pap so look for for twenty bucks it was definitely a fun fun rif. But at the same time I probably wouldn't do it again.
29:03.21
Adz
It sounds sounds like a a well spent $20 entertainment value. Yeah yeah, that's that's a good. Yeah, that's a good description.
29:08.85
youcantcompthis
It sounds like to me, you'd get out of a show bag and you know if you went to the the royal show and then you picked up some you know lousy showback for $20 and that's what came in it.
29:19.19
Adz
Any of the people organizing the royal Melbourne show for 2024 I hope you're listening that's it we will give you a shoutout as well when we we go to get the show bags I'll I'll buy the show bag for sure.
29:26.99
youcantcompthis
But hook up with chantship collection. Yeah.
29:34.38
youcantcompthis
I Think the natural segue here is.
29:36.38
Adz
And Nba Collector's show bag.
29:40.83
youcantcompthis
The the Hobby hangout show bag.
29:45.32
Adz
That's it.
29:47.77
youcantcompthis
Alright so huge shout up to Amir for his ongoing support to the show. His product is called the bankner. He does a customs repack which is essentially like the the championshipship collection hobby box but a much much better to diamond.
29:59.38
Adz
The premium The premium addition of of the we must say yeah.
30:06.91
youcantcompthis
The diamond edition. Yeah, so he has a gold edition for five forty nine it contain contains 8 hobby packs which could be optic select prism mosaic in this two years of
30:14.83
Adz
Yep.
30:23.40
youcantcompthis
Each that are sort of mixed into that but they're all hobby packets. That's the the really big thing to to say then you've got this silver edition for 269 so that's got flux rebo mosaic select elite and illusions and again all hobby packets through that. So if you're looking to do your own brick.
30:27.93
Adz
Yep.
30:42.67
youcantcompthis
If you're looking to do something with a bit more variation and a bit more potential for some value in there because of that. Obviously there's a bit of randomization or all luck with that check out the bang man. He's found on Facebook he's found on Instagram just directly dm Amir he will hook you up.
30:51.14
Adz
Yeah, of course.
31:01.60
youcantcompthis
He's had a couple of really big pools. He recently pulled a chet holggram number to 10 so the gold prism rookie car is so whoever did get that congratulations. That's so like a life changinging card. It's you know the reason why we root tucks you know to get stuck like that. So um.
31:08.28
Adz
Yeah I saw that that was massive. Yeah, yeah, that's definitely. It's some.
31:20.17
youcantcompthis
Grats. Yeah yeah, I do want to talk about your favorite son Luca Bonchuch's latest gift to Dallas Mavericks was a deep 3 pointer on Christmas night that pushed him past 10000 career points. But to reach the milestone against the phoenix suns and.
31:37.47
Adz
He's on. It's going. Well.
31:42.10
youcantcompthis
In his 300 and fiftyft eighth career game which ties the hall of fame of Bob Macadoo for the 7 fewest games who reach 10000 points Adam I know you've been very salty about this young man where are you sitting Luka now after this season.
32:02.16
Adz
I'm I'm I'm quiet on on the luca front I'm I'm actually no I'm pleasantly surprised like I don't wish I don't wish the man poorly.
32:12.70
youcantcompthis
So then.
32:17.39
Adz
I Just think it's the it's the fans that ah that that are singing his praises unnecessarily he's putting up incredible numbers. He's putting up sure. But and and this is where.
32:27.85
youcantcompthis
Ridiculous. These numbers are just like video game stuff. Yeah.
32:37.60
Adz
Obviously in the regular season. There's nothing he can do about this? Um, the number of championships. He's is currently equal with wembby. He's currently equal with jamarant. He's currently equal with Jason Tatum
32:46.77
youcantcompthis
I Amo how doy. So.
32:55.40
Adz
He's currently equal with you. Do you know? what? and you know what I'm getting at right like he hasn't won a championship but but he is putting up. Yeah, but he's putting up amazing numbers. He's he's putting his hat in the ring so to speak.
32:56.15
youcantcompthis
Lion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no definitely. Yeah, it's all futurepro these numbers. Yeah, no, so it's not future proofof these numbers.
33:14.93
Adz
Like he's in the Mvp discussion he and so he should be I think Luka is like I give the man a lot of grief but but he's um, he's definitely one of the best talents in the league I've i've. I've no doubt of this that said hobby value wise is still not a buy for me I don't know if I've got any justification sorry I'll rephrase that I'm looking at his silver psa 10 and I cannot find a reason that I would spend. $1250 which is his current sold price for a silver prism off one of the 2266 people that have one.
34:00.71
youcantcompthis
So yeah, so yeah. The one part of my brain says he's the safest buy in the hobby at the moment in terms of con temporary players. The other part of my brain says what you just said then you know at $1200 with a pop of 2200. You know it's just a bit of a stayaway. The really interesting thing for me is Sophie. Zoom out to 1 year of sales. He's down 42% and this is where I sit with this guy is he going to trend back upwards or is he going to continue to trend downwards and that's probably the thing where because I think if he was.
34:39.82
Adz
Can I give you my comp on him might by player comp Tatum Tatum's like eight hundred bucks Tatum's like a 7 to $800 card at the moment with a pop count a third of this.
34:44.63
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah, so how do you link those 2 together. Yeah yeah.
34:59.57
Adz
And I think they're as far as their performances go Luca's probably a little more little bit ahead of Tatum but they're in the same bracket.
35:08.20
youcantcompthis
So personal numbers from Luca I would actually say he's probably 2 or 3 steps ahead of Tatum whereas for team success tatum is 3 or 4 steps ahead of Luka right? So I think that's that's the tradeoff. But.
35:15.92
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah I put them in the same bracket as far as if though they were to share a card bracket.
35:33.16
Adz
Feel like that because he's the number 1 guy in Boston and he's the number 1 guy in Dallas like the number 1 guy in Boston Boston is as you well know is a a a big franchise. She's in the spotlight. He's still at that seven eight hundred dollars mark
35:51.47
youcantcompthis
I yeah I don't think yeah look I personally think the reason why Don Chi is sitting higher is because of his numbers I think the stuff that he's done is significantly statistically amazing I think you can't repance that I think that's part of it I think I think where um.
35:52.83
Adz
Baffles me.
36:06.14
Adz
Yeah, yep.
36:11.13
youcantcompthis
Trying to lead this conversation from my own sort of perspective is that the the point you made before about his silver pc and is very valid I still stand by what I said is he's the best buy in the contemporary and Mba at the moment and. What I want to say specifically about this is he's got an exclusive deal with panini so we can't even say the writing's on the wall anymore. The story's been written fanatics is taking over It's even possible. They're going to take over sooner. So what's going to happen the Luca Autographs moving forward is.
36:34.95
Adz
What's true.
36:45.88
youcantcompthis
So the easy way for current collectors to think about this is Lebron James we haven't seen Lebron Autos for the last twenty years right
36:55.44
Adz
Yeah.
36:58.17
youcantcompthis
Is that what's going to happen to Luca orders moving into fanatics era because you can't tell me that finini and fanatics are going to be drinking beers and sharing exclusive plays like the way that they've gone about the way that fanatics have gone about things has being frankly abrasive and and I don't see there's going to be any. You know, handshacked deals being done so that's the type of hobby fallout that I would you know expect to happen so where I'm leading with this is that currently you can probably get and a looper auto sticker say around 800 on carve for maybe a thousand to 1200.
37:18.48
Adz
A.
37:37.63
youcantcompthis
And this is the Matthew Yuga rule of wasianas autographs the best buy $1000 that you could have done twelve months ago so is Luka Donnage Oncar autograph the best current buy in the hobby market when we know in the next two years there's going to be none. Yeah and I think let's just say you you don't subscribe to my theory about autographs because I'm also going through a big autograph phase at the moment that's fine but find other luca cards that are undervalued.
37:57.54
Adz
He's yeah, that's a really good. That's a really good way to frame it.
38:14.92
youcantcompthis
You know that have got that sort of potential to go up because you know we we talk about silver rookies all the time and and I think that's probably 1 of the downfalls of of our so but we're not talking about silver rookies in particular, we're just using that to measure the market I think that's yeah, that's a.
38:21.71
Adz
It's it.
38:28.15
Adz
It's a baseline right.
38:30.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and it's such an easy baseline because there's so many data points. So I think.
38:33.85
Adz
There's it's the it's the market baseline I think we've talked to length with with various guests as well and it's just like it's it's the baseline standard because that's the rookie. It's the equivalent of the tops. It's like if we're talking about Lebron. We're talking about Kobe. We're talking about. Other like older players. It's the tops 1 but you're right? yeah.
38:51.51
youcantcompthis
So that's fine. You know, move on from that and yeah, so that's where I'm at with Luca at the moment and I think the Nba is is so good at the moment.
38:59.99
Adz
Well, it's interesting I think Luka yeah I think you're right is a commodity he it doesn't need to be a rookie card with Luka you you can flip Luka like buy and sell like he is a hot trading card.
39:17.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
39:18.73
Adz
Like just a player does he have a caboo.
39:24.10
youcantcompthis
The population.
39:31.16
Adz
I'm like I'm not that I have a thing Miss Kaboos at all. He's all gonna about yeah is it. He's got a couple I do.
39:37.70
youcantcompthis
As you've got a scotty piff birth.
39:46.24
Adz
Wow. There's so yeah's a few ka booms of Luca 2018 and 19 crown royal Luca Donitch yeah okay in 2020 okay and they're all look.
40:06.44
Adz
But for for less than 2000 you can get yourself a nice, a very nice kaboom actually for a thousand you probably get 1 um low pop count to anyway.
40:16.30
youcantcompthis
Ah I've been very open about my my theory about booms I think the their home run cards irregardless but I just think in particular with Luca Autographs I think that's a separate issue.
40:25.94
Adz
You reckon Luka anything Luca with an autograph on card.
40:31.63
youcantcompthis
Look sticker too is is totally fine like if that's what your budget fits. That's nothing wrong with that. That's totally fine right? But if you can get into that on card. You know I think.
40:36.33
Adz
Sure.
40:42.55
Adz
Yeah.
40:49.19
Adz
Yeah, I'm just trying to find. Um.
40:50.60
youcantcompthis
And I think he's going to be this generation's Bron James in terms of hobby availability for autographs I really do you know and I think frankly I think it's it's a shame. Yeah, so.
40:57.60
Adz
Yeah I have a tendency to agree. It's interesting.
41:07.60
youcantcompthis
I Would like to ask you about your Hobby New Year's resolutions.
41:13.80
Adz
Um, my Hobby New Year's resolutions. It is um.
41:14.30
youcantcompthis
Percent is the new year after all and you know it's the very western tradition to do to make newest resolutions but I'd rather make some hobby ones. Frankly, it's a bit more interesting.
41:26.74
Adz
I like that I like um look I'm not I'm not much of a year's resolution kind of person. But as far as the hobby goes I think um expand not not so much the collecting but um.
41:31.57
youcantcompthis
Okay.
41:43.65
Adz
My appreciation for different types of cards is is is my focus this year expanding outside of the the usual and it's funny. You made made the the thing about us or we do often defer to the Silver prism. Um, but I am I've always had that that weird and wonderful. Um.
41:46.88
youcantcompthis
I of.
42:03.71
Adz
Quirk to my collecting liking you know random cards for random reasons. Yeah and Julius Randall um but yeah, like getting getting more cards that have stories behind them. So forget so last year I think ah my focus turned to.
42:08.19
youcantcompthis
Bilius Randall yep yeah.
42:22.32
Adz
I do want to slowly accumulate greats of the game and and I got a couple of pieces which was really nice as I said my the karee I got at the hobby hangout like a couple hobby hangouts to go the nba 75 I'm like that's a nice Kareem like the Pippin that was that was sort of ah a bucket listing for me. I've got my first kaboom. But yeah, like just just cards that have a nice story behind them. Um I don't know I like I like stories and and I think having yeah having some cards with some stories to go along with them to some memories. Yeah, that's that's my news resolution is I want want better stories behind my cards.
43:07.92
youcantcompthis
So I've got fair a few incomplete set chases going on at the moment so I would like to sit down work out. What sets are incomplete and then finish them off I think and.
43:13.51
Adz
Is.
43:23.66
youcantcompthis
Sometimes my perspective on set chases is as I see the card come up I'll pick them up pick them up on the cheap you know, be opportunistic the issue with that is that then you sort of just sitting there with all these you know incomplete sets and I actually came across a spreadsheet I used to spreadsheet religiously but I'm sort of.
43:29.13
Adz
Yep.
43:40.51
youcantcompthis
Um, too lazy for it these days and and it's amazing. How many sets I started and you know just sort of sitting there. So I think I definitely want to knock if few of those over and then I've definitely been so the last four months I've probably bought more.
43:45.65
Adz
Um, in yep.
43:59.90
youcantcompthis
All-time great cards and actual dar fox cards. So I think for me, that's like that's a really big shift. Yeah so I've really enjoyed doing that this year and sort of just spending a bit more time learning about you know more of the history of the game I've really enjoyed that so I picked up a Bob Cozy timeless moments which came out of this year's one and 1
44:01.21
Adz
Wow! yep.
44:10.52
Adz
No. Nice.
44:18.40
youcantcompthis
And I am just so you know when you get those cards where you just like this is just so amazing and you're just so happy with the card that this definitely fits into that sort of bracket I'm I'm going to put it next to my bill Russell I think that that's going to sit really nicely together and.
44:25.22
Adz
If I.
44:37.83
youcantcompthis
I'm not even going to try and show you on the on the camera. Actually yes I will if it's not going to show out at all, but it's just's just an incredible kind. Yeah, so the depictions in black and white. They've got the Green Boston border guy and he signed it in this big fat silver and he even signed over the numbering of the card 2 which.
44:43.64
Adz
Odds That's an incredible card.
44:57.83
youcantcompthis
I'm sure that's gonna tweak some people's Ocd but I just love it how it's just he just doesn't tell you know he's still signing that bad boy. So yeah, thank you Bob for a beautiful signature on that now I think my last thing is is.
45:02.19
Adz
Ah, yeah, yeah, yep, ah nice. That's a pretty cut.
45:13.42
youcantcompthis
And think I'm over this retail packet session that I went through and I think so I think this year is going to be the I'll stop I'll open up what I think.
45:21.88
Adz
You're over it back back to hobby.
45:30.00
youcantcompthis
Related but I think that's going to be I think I'm gonna have to move on to something else. So yeah, maybe I don't want to I don't want to drop ah another ad for bang and but maybe something like that. Maybe that's the better idea for.
45:31.66
Adz
Back to Hobby Packs college
45:43.62
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
45:46.36
youcantcompthis
And just sort of stretch out opening that over you know a month or two months you know, perfect thought all right now. My other news resolution is the perfect segue into our next segment I want to spend more time learning about older cards. So I thought maybe.
45:52.20
Adz
It's nice.
46:06.13
youcantcompthis
We we won't do this every week. But if we can do it once a week I think that'll be fantastic and the most traded man and currently still is that is is Michael Jordan in terms of you know trading cards I love the hard letter emails that come out and the card letter Twitter stuff and then they'll just show a card that just popped one week
46:18.38
Adz
Ah.
46:22.35
Adz
Yeah.
46:26.30
youcantcompthis
So I'd love to catch one of these cards at pop. So I don't know this is going to happen but this is just 1 card that I found or if it was really interesting. So this is the 90 96 Michael Jordan metal shredders and it is a card that came out of flenn metal. <unk> 10 population on this is 257 now the really interesting thing about this car which is probably what got my attention a little bit. It's actually it's down a lot the last few months. So if you goes the last three months. It's actually down twenty nine percent so look at the last.
46:44.85
Adz
Her.
47:01.14
Adz
Huh.
47:02.58
youcantcompthis
Twelve months of data though. It's sold for nearly four hundred dollars at 1 point. It's currently trading at about 240 so I'm actually trying to pick on up for for comps at the moment card letter values at at 230 in terms of the pop count. 257 like we've just spoken about cards that have got 10 times the pop on that that have you know? So yeah.
47:24.18
Adz
Um, very interesting I Have to say it's um, it's hard to bring relativity to it. That's that's my struggle.
47:37.34
youcantcompthis
Listen there someone like Jordan who is so well established who is so readily traded and look can you take losses on this stuff. Yeah, hundred of a cent you can no. But if it's in your budget.
47:41.60
Adz
Oh.
47:52.20
Adz
You're gonna lose all your money on this stuff. Never.
47:55.26
youcantcompthis
Don't think so all of it I think you could lose a percentage of it. But at the same time if you're if you're buying it. You know when it's dipping down look I think you need to you know, buy getting in and out of the market the right time anyway look the other reason why I chose this cartoon is because there's a few different variations on it. There's the base the metalized the precious metal that was the one we spoke about.
47:56.25
Adz
Course.
48:14.23
youcantcompthis
The Net rages the molten metal and the metal shredders now the metalized which is the one I want to speak about? No so sorry I have to go back and head this out.
48:38.42
youcantcompthis
Priority. So the metal greatest precious metal last sold for 11000 nearly $12000 the pot the pove on that is it is 11 So I think.
48:47.82
Adz
Sheesh what the 11
48:55.46
youcantcompthis
You know that's a significant part of it. It's really tricky to look at the cards we know on ebay and then work the 2 classes we spoke on were very very similar I think the best way to do it though is to look at the flea logo the fear metal logo. It's actually a different ah that that was the. Because when they're on ebay even on conc it's a little bit the same frankly colors in all of them. They will look completely different but it's all the same card. You know so it. So.
49:25.26
Adz
Um, wow that's um, 11000
49:35.24
youcantcompthis
What we'll do on socials this next week will do 2 segments I think we should do a segment where people can put forward cards for us to have a look at you know we can do a small segment on them and the other segment I think we should do this week is people's news resolutions because I think both of those segments could yeah.
49:45.92
Adz
Yep, Hell yeah yeah, let's let's let's find out what people where people are moving in the Hobby or what what changes people are making if they're not changing if they're adjusting. They're refocusing. Yeah.
49:53.85
youcantcompthis
So thank you? so.
50:00.31
youcantcompthis
I it's ah so going from Michael Jordan to somebody who wasn't drafted in the Nba draft and is not even in mba hoops this year brague
50:03.47
Adz
Ah, like it I like it a lot I think it's a great idea.
50:10.69
Adz
Um, Johnny Kilroy ah
50:18.44
youcantcompthis
Orter junior so again, this is very much about brussels holiday travels. So I went and taught the calves playing and they were without a lot of their team. So Donovan Mitchell didn't play carlan didn't play game. And so basically that's opened up their back court. So C Craig Porter started and he played really really? well. So if you look at the link there and you go to the at Chicago game. They won 100 nights and 95 he played 39 minutes and 7 rebounds 8 is assist. Yeah.
50:44.94
Adz
And.
50:50.54
Adz
4 nineteen seven and 8
50:57.28
youcantcompthis
1 block 1 steel finished with 19 points. So.
51:03.90
Adz
They've got the live box score of the moment versus Toronto is currently on 0.1 rebbound and zero assists Minus eleven
51:10.78
youcantcompthis
He and minus eleven in the plus learning yeah look he's going to have games like that as you know node to house but he looks I said so I think the reason why we should talk about this kid is he can play basketball. You know, really well and the other name I'm going to be.
51:18.30
Adz
Sure, um.
51:29.62
youcantcompthis
Right into this conversation is also going to be our next seggues hires Halber Burton in terms of his decision-making he just makes the right decisions he doesn't make particularly flashy plays. He doesn't the kid just knows how to play basketball I'm a little bit oflexed of how he didn't get drafted look that.
51:34.19
Adz
M.
51:45.50
Adz
He's 23 years old from Wichita state yeah I I mean players can slip through the crack still.
51:48.36
youcantcompthis
At the end of the day could be it. But you know I really like him I think that.
51:59.83
youcantcompthis
And you know this could be the the next Isaiah Joe where he's not in prison. He's not in hoops but he'll have a card pop up in select or you'll have a card half in Rosaic and look I don't think you guys should go out and heavily prospect this dude definitely not but at the same time you should keep an eye on him I think.
52:09.72
Adz
Yeah.
52:19.15
youcantcompthis
He's been me a fun one to you know to monitor basically and.
52:22.58
Adz
Yep yeah I think there's there's definitely I mean you could see the obviously we've said today's game by any means is not looking great, but that Chicago game. There's some crazy good numbers.
52:36.62
youcantcompthis
It.
52:37.64
Adz
And then like he has but like he has put it up. He's had a 12 rebound game. You know I mean like against Alice he played really well a few nights ago. Um, and I think being being a rookie. He'll get given opportunities and if he takes them and yes he is best games. Against the bull so he literally took the bulls by the horns and and that's when he stepped right up. But yeah, it's interesting to see a player like this and if they are limited in their rookie card does that does that make it a. A cheeky prospect because if he does I don't like go on a good run and get like a player of the month or something right? like I'm talking highlight real after highlight gets a starting spot does that make does that create a bigger spike the fact that it's hard to find his rookie.
53:31.38
youcantcompthis
Lady Isaiah Joe is the rock compfield because I see Isaiah Joe has been relatively quite successful from someone at that sort of very low end prospect level.
53:44.46
Adz
M.
53:48.15
youcantcompthis
So there's not been a heap of value. You know in this kid but at the same time he isaai Joe's plays a really good basketball when given the opportunity so you know I see that too. You know the really probably the interesting thing is I think he would play better with that.
53:56.67
Adz
Yeah.
54:05.69
youcantcompthis
Gary's Garland then Donovan Mitchell and Donovan Mitchell is back before Garland is so this actually might be the end of his run unfortunately, but at the same time too fun one to talk about? Yeah yeah.
54:11.55
Adz
Now look you flash in a pan is a rookie might end up on a different team might get traded to the knicks who knows.
54:21.62
youcantcompthis
We mentioned tyres Hallibur we have to talk about this kid talk to us about your helbert take that you're telling me about off.
54:26.76
Adz
So I read I was either an I think it was Instagram that that pointed it out. Um, there are 2 ah, until recently there were only 2 players in Mba history that it had back to back. TwentyPointTwenty assist games and those 2 players go by the name of Magic Johnson and John Stockton there is a now a third man on that list and his name is Tyrese Halliburton that this kid is phenomenal.
55:02.39
youcantcompthis
I I like that list so much too because those 2 are genuine point guards and that's what this kid is. He is such an amazing floor general and floor leader and playmaker I just love watching him play so I was lucky enough to get.
55:14.95
Adz
Yeah I I would um I would go as far to say Chris Paul is about to lose his title as point god.
55:24.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah I think if Halliburton has to put ah another couple of years in product to usurp him but at the same time I agree with you I think this that could definitely happen particularly if he has more keen success than what Chris Paul has look ah I was at the but.
55:29.78
Adz
Yeah, yeah, now team True true.
55:44.41
youcantcompthis
Wo's paces game and I was there in the flesh thing and it was just an amazing game like I to me, honest I didn't even know he had 20 assist and I didn't know he had 20 points but I just knew at the end of the game. It was amazing and it seemed like this podcast all roads are coming back to tibs today. But. If you watch a game of the paces play and then you watch a game of the next play like the future is the innea paces and I feel like in some ways the past is the k nexts to be perfect glass with you and look at to a degree even the bulls the way that the bulls hunt midran shots versus the paces.
56:13.86
Adz
A.
56:20.92
youcantcompthis
Hunting three point shots. My very basic Nba analysis of that game was a pace is won because tyres Halliburton played so well and the paces shot and made more 3 pointers than the bulls did such but literally as simple as that she know of it.
56:34.35
Adz
Fair, Yeah, yeah, it's not a. It's not a complicated game on some at sometimes.
56:42.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and the pace is just so well coached and look you know I've got a bit of ah obsession for coaching and particularly good coaching I think Rick Carlo's an interesting dude because of how.
56:56.23
Adz
Oh.
56:57.21
youcantcompthis
Controlling. He was like he wouldn't even let Jason kid make play calls that that's like the the reputation and where he came from and now he's got this open court high octane 3 point shooting led by Tyris Hall you know I mean like the transition for that guy to do that.
57:11.11
Adz
It's a yeah, it's it. Ah yeah.
57:16.46
youcantcompthis
You know and I love those stories too. You know anyway back to halliburton psa 10 populations, Two fifty two last sold for $510 and the last one year he's up 25% the last six months he's up 45% and I think that's fine.
57:31.30
Adz
45%
57:35.33
youcantcompthis
The other reason why I wanted to talk about Hallibur too is because I think this is a very relevant con temporary Hobby story like we can't have this podcast without talking about halibur. Do you know what? I'm trying to say like this this kid is is happening right now. Yeah yeah.
57:42.82
Adz
Yeah, well we're we're witnessing this. He's he's having his historic year where he's putting himself on the map this year like and he's doing it. He's doing the work. Is here a $500 card simple question jar morant same price point pop count is 6 times higher like for me even at 500 now I think this kid is a buyer.
58:19.30
youcantcompthis
So the yeah, it just been Devil's advocates at what you just said to I suspect. There's a few more clouds sitting up. He's a partly being graded. You know I mean so.
58:31.62
Adz
I don't think we're getting up to 1600 anytime soon though as far as the 10 count goes.
58:36.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so yeah, but let's okay, so let's just say that the pop goes to 500 because it very easily could go to 500 in the next twelve to twenty four months right yeah so yeah, and then how would you feel about that car being.
58:42.44
Adz
Sure 500 easy
58:55.20
youcantcompthis
$600 at six fifty
58:55.46
Adz
Six hundred six fifty and with a pop count of 500 I'm still good because his trajectory and I'm going to go back to lure and Tatum and these these elite levels I think this kid pushing for that bracket. He's currently in the top 10 Mvp voting as he should be.
59:19.10
youcantcompthis
And in very long that's to de keys. Yeah.
59:24.43
Adz
He is um and yeah sure point guards don't don't arent the are the most exciting when it comes to the highlight reel but I don't know he's accolades so far this year like so many assists without a turnover. You can see how good how? Well he reads the game. Um, yeah I don't know I still think he's a buy at that five six hundred dollars mark Six Fifty is probably my.
59:47.36
youcantcompthis
Fit.
01:00:00.30
Adz
I Don know I I I see him as a he has the potential and I'm not saying that he's going to get there but on the trajectory he's on I see him as long as the pop count stays and I think Tatum's a good example here. The pop count and that's eight hundred so unless the pop count starts getting up above that 700 range I think the the seven fifty to thousand dollars range is not out of the out of the realm of possibility for halliburton.
01:00:32.37
Adz
To shame. He plays in Indiana.
01:00:39.90
Adz
Yeah.
01:00:39.18
youcantcompthis
I I'm really taught on this one because I think that personality wise I think he's fine I think he's an intelligent guy I think behavior wise is going to be no issues there look I do think the India situation is a problem the other reality with.
01:00:50.73
Adz
Ah.
01:00:58.93
youcantcompthis
Indiana too is that they haven't been known to spend laker level money on teams traditionally and I think if you're being practical about in sky championships do matter and is he going to be limited in his championships. Capabilities by playing in Indiana because hiin pops with Jaylen Smith pick and pop with miles turnout and you know setting up buddy healed for three s that's only going to get you so far I think they're one of the best stories in the league this year and I think Howard Burton is really worthy of all the attention that he's getting but does that mean that I think this card's going to go to $1000 like I I just no I don't think that.
01:01:38.24
Adz
Oh. I Think there needs to be something else.
01:01:47.81
youcantcompthis
The only thing that gives me a lot of positivity about this guy is the way that he plays basketball and I need to sort of pass this out a little bit so I don't want a lot of soccer but I do know that Lionel messy is one of the most efficient plays in terms of.
01:01:57.34
Adz
Ha.
01:02:07.33
youcantcompthis
How many steps he takes and how much distance he covers on the floor to how much productivity he gets I don't know if this is something that's measured or if it's actually even out there and if someone's listening at home can tell me about this and validate or invalidate my theory I'd love to hear it. But I think he is the most efficient one.
01:02:11.15
Adz
Yeah.
01:02:27.30
youcantcompthis
Basketball player under the court in terms of how much movement he does and how much steps he takes as to how much activity he produces like it's just amazing. It actually hurts my head when I watch him play I was like how does he do that without even breaking his sweat and you watch him. He just walks off the court. He's not even.
01:02:30.67
Adz
E.
01:02:42.74
Adz
He's such a cerebral player like he yeah.
01:02:45.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he's he's not puffing. He doesn't even like wipe his head off with a towel. You know it's just amazing anyway and that's the end of my tyruse Halliburton froth and.
01:02:55.90
Adz
He's um I don't think it's a last. We've heard of him this season though.
01:02:59.50
youcantcompthis
It. It's kicked over to an hour should we do 1 more thing and then and sign off why don't you pick pick the last one.
01:03:07.20
Adz
Course it has let's um, show all right? We we I did touch on the pistons when we talked about Jama Rant shall we it shall we finish on a positive note ah come on.
01:03:18.16
youcantcompthis
But if leave the pistons lord they won a again and we come pa today and Washington's Morris and.
01:03:24.80
Adz
Fine. Where are you? you're in Chicago at the moment. But if you this is your last day in Chicago let's touch touch on the bulls then shall we and check in with them.
01:03:36.85
youcantcompthis
All right? Phil let me give you my ah my b grade or e grade bulls analysis. They need to blow this team up in the worst possible way and I think it's so frustrating watching that.
01:03:41.27
Adz
Plus.
01:03:50.27
youcantcompthis
I watched more bulls and I'm not going to watch any more bulls issue I'm done with them like that's it I really enjoyed going to the game el. But yeah, tapped out I get some amazing footage of Benny the bull people think they need to trade demand a ro and like.
01:03:54.19
Adz
No more bull. Ah, you got some footage of Benny the bull.
01:04:09.67
youcantcompthis
Enough mid-range pull-up jumps ah, who cares just get rid of him look Pat Williams Pat Williams was really really promising to me but you can see he's starting to work it out. There's some things that he does in the court sometimes and I'm like why don't you just do that.
01:04:10.89
Adz
Where's he going though who wants Demand a rosen.
01:04:28.77
youcantcompthis
Every third possession like he'll sometimes he'll take it to the basket really hard and he'll get there like he's actually bleed defensively I feel like he's growing into his body and he's doing some really good things defensively is he going to be a rim protector I don't think so.
01:04:31.38
Adz
M.
01:04:40.61
Adz
Um, yeah, sure. Yep.
01:04:45.27
youcantcompthis
And that's probably something the bulls need to get behind him. You know if they can pair him with a room protector I think they'll be an amazing couple I think Toby White has flashes of ah brilliance and.
01:04:56.79
Adz
Yep I think that's raceable. Yep.
01:04:59.97
youcantcompthis
I Think actually at the moment he's a buyer. He's so far depressed at the moment that there's not a lot of reason not to buy this kid now the other one I've spoken about in the past is Ao and I'm going to double down this I Really liked what I had to see on this kid. He was he was. He was really good.
01:05:04.34
Adz
Yeah.
01:05:13.71
Adz
The k.
01:05:18.62
youcantcompthis
But then what I want to add into the mix that I actually bought his vertical rpa yesterday and it was 100% just due to me seeing a few of these games I paid 21 usb for it. So um, um, I'm absolutely's static that what I paid for is number to 49 on card. Autograph. It's the for some reason the material's not gain worn but that's just I've just been panini I think he like with a lot of athleticism. Interestingly he's listed as a point guard but I'm more seeing him as like a shooting guard or as a small forward. He plays with high defensive intensity.
01:05:43.57
Adz
We've just been had any need.
01:05:51.92
Adz
Okay.
01:05:59.81
youcantcompthis
Doesn't need the ball to be successful and I think to some degrees playing with demada roin playing with Kobe white and then of course when zackelvine comes back, you'll need that look I like it I think in terms of a lowend prospect and you know picking up some cheapy bargains. Yeah, that's really again, another fun 1
01:06:04.17
Adz
Yeah.
01:06:17.39
youcantcompthis
Probably to be honest, better than Craig Porter but which just couldn't get over that they could have had Frans Wagner and Wendell Carter Jr on that squad instead of nikcola vsovic I'm never going to get over this to be honest, it's just I'm not even I'm not even a bull's fan and.
01:06:31.17
Adz
No, it's just disappointing. It's it. Yeah, you're right? You're right? It's very disappointing.
01:06:36.90
youcantcompthis
Just like dual my headed.
01:06:41.14
youcantcompthis
You know I do my Jalen Johnson take on the last show I'll just do this really quickly in case I've done it twice and I've forgotten. But yeah.
01:06:46.71
Adz
Chaylon Johnson
01:06:54.39
youcantcompthis
You know when you you went to your basketball game and then they walked in in their warmups and you couldn't get over like how big they were so when Kobe walked into the room where you're like oh my god like look at this guy. Yes, so when I saw Lebron walk in I can it was years ago.
01:07:03.72
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like look up and yeah. The.
01:07:13.90
youcantcompthis
I saw this guy play I can still that's like burnt into my memory. You know so Jalen Johnson's not the same thing but he's 50% there that he is huge like he.
01:07:24.98
Adz
Okay, just just just giant. Just.
01:07:30.21
youcantcompthis
Look we've probably gone a little bit too far but he's not a child and I think that's like he's a baby-faced. You know guy you know his numbers on the page. Don't look that impressive but he's a big boy and I think he's going to really grow into his body and cause people problems. Look we're talking about him and previousy shows. But again I'm just like a bit like a I'm just doubling down this kid so Galen Johnson a you then my 2 big takeaways from the amount of bulls at us and I'll subject them to yeah.
01:07:51.35
Adz
Yeah. From your time in Chicago time in the windy city it. So we're we're not see I thought we'd talk about where you are now because if you're going to Washington next I don't want to know actually actually maybe you can just do it.
01:08:09.46
youcantcompthis
I I'm going to a game I just want to like I just want to see Jordan pool. It's gonna be awesome I can't wait.
01:08:12.85
Adz
Ah, gonna size up Jordan pool for me, you don't need to go to a game to size up Jordan pool.
01:08:18.44
Adz
Um, if you if you just bump into Jordan Fall on the street I would be hilarious. Ah.
01:08:33.13
youcantcompthis
Because.
01:08:34.40
Adz
Or just say like ah do you play basketball a lot of people don't think you do, you're not very good anyway, go back to Sam Fran
01:08:38.89
youcantcompthis
And.
01:08:47.75
youcantcompthis
I don't know if he'd be um, welcome back to San Francisco anymore I think um.
01:08:50.99
Adz
Yeah, no I don't I don't think so ah yet, no yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Favorite point. No I don't think anyone wants him back.
01:08:53.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah, first with draymont being suspended. Maybe he would be but is that possible.
01:09:07.37
youcantcompthis
So you said about people walking down the street and bumping into them I actually saw garret temple walking down the street in New York when the raptors were in town. Yeah I tried to wave it in bitny didn't see me I was on a bus so that was a little bit hard. But.
01:09:13.42
Adz
A wow nice. Nice. My best friend's wife shared an elevator with Kobe bright long time ago.
01:09:26.20
youcantcompthis
His friend's war I mean that's the ° of chevin bacon.
01:09:31.22
Adz
She reminds me when we visit she goes here. It's like that time that I was in the elevator with Kobe Bryant and I didn't know who he was and then my husband showed me a photo and I mean yeah, that's the guy. The reaction was Adam's gonna be so jealous when he hears this.
01:09:48.78
youcantcompthis
And you were.
01:09:50.39
Adz
I was a little bit just a little bit for yes anyway.
01:09:56.74
youcantcompthis
I thank you for a lovely podcast. Thank you everyone for listening and your support happy. Be New Year happy you had a lovely new year and it was safe and we will see you soon and.
01:10:00.70
Adz
Happy New Year to everybody. Yes, we will see you soon. Please let us know your your news resolutions. We're gonna put up some posts. We're gonna.
01:10:15.75
youcantcompthis
And accumulatmated by the way if you don't want to hear about games. We just want to hear about Pcs. So.
01:10:21.88
Adz
Pcs It's all card related stuff I'm gonna paint my house in basketball cards that could be a resolution that would definitely make it on the show. Awesome.
01:10:27.76
youcantcompthis
I Yeah I would make it on the show. Yeah, Definitely Yeah. Do not.
01:10:36.31
Adz
Ah, right, thanks everybody. We'll see you well see you next week