Episode 123: Lebron James Brings His Talents to Fanatics, Ja Morant, Kawhi extension, Chris Paul, Jordan Poole, OG, Tim Duncan

Episode 123: We have an episode that could be described as a see-saw ride: 
- LeBron James brings his talents to Fanatics. 
 - Ja Morant out for year 
- EJ cards traders day 
- New year resolutions 
- Kawhi extension 
- Draymond Green is reinstated by the NBA to play again.
- Chris Paul fracture 
- wizards future picks  / Jordan Poole plus minus 
- Quick check on OG since being traded to the Knicks.
- Card Ladder Tim Duncan Sale 
eBay '1/1' 

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Transcript

00:00.12
Adz
Let's do that Bang Bang bang.

00:13.90
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 123 of the you can't comp this Nba trading card podcast. We are your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson First question off the bat where in the world. Are you today? russell.

00:31.10
youcantcompthis
Of a bit like that video game Alman Saidogo where is where is she.

00:38.30
Adz
Ah, what's my clue Then what's my clue.

00:39.68
youcantcompthis
So we saw big Ben and we had an english breakfast today.

00:47.41
Adz
Ah, you're in London ah that was um, yes yes, that was that was that was that was very much um, a little too easy. That's all right? Um, your is that further away.

00:50.00
youcantcompthis
That was probably too easy wasn't it.

01:05.15
Adz
Being in the Uk rather than the Us ah feel like okay because it was yeah I was gonna say it feels like you're just sort of still on the opposite side of the world quite literally.

01:06.13
youcantcompthis
I That was slowly coming closer home and.

01:16.20
youcantcompthis
And yeah, but fortunately and the time difference is getting less as we're coming this way. So then when we go to our next stop. It's less time difference soon when we finally get home. It's only 3 hours so we're sort of doing the hard work before we get home. So.

01:24.77
Adz
Okay. And I like that it's some yeah good work. Good Good Good planning. Awesome! awesome.

01:33.68
youcantcompthis
Yes.

01:37.65
youcantcompthis
So it's been an amazing trip but enough about my travel details. We need to talk about basketball cards because there has been some amazing news. Yeah, some amazing news I think.

01:48.25
Adz
1 or 2 things happening a few things. Yeah shwick.

01:56.69
youcantcompthis
We've tussled on already. So it's not like ours sins are going to be you know, completely blown away or shocked by this but you know it is now officially official Lebron is signed with fanatics. So.

02:09.48
Adz
Yeah, this is um, this is big this I mean there's no other other way to describe it rather than this is big. So Lebron's is what officially signed. Um, well we go to the tweet that you you shared because it's from your friend. Ah Eric whiteback.

02:25.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah I.

02:27.25
Adz
The yeah, the collectibles guru breaking Lebron James is officially signed an exclusive multi-year deal with fanatics collectibles and Toppps previously had an exclusive deal with Upperdeck we just signed more than twenty years ago and once he said looks like we're officially going to see mba license lebron james autos yeah as soon as the panini deal expires thoughts.

02:51.41
youcantcompthis
Think is it well without John too nerdy to this but he uses all capitals for exclusive and I think that was the be so look this for me is not so much breaking news like you know we knew that this was going to happen right? and.

03:00.16
Adz
Oh.

03:06.68
Adz
It was yeah.

03:10.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah, So I think this is you know art is really news for me is the exclusive part and I think this is the important part because then basically we know we're going to get you know, unmeted unfettered Bookeron James collectible stuff and I think that's really important and. Again I don't want to go back into too much stuff that we've talked about on this previously. But I think he has been missing from the Hobby and I think it's I Really hate all this sort of red tape stuff that happens and at the end of the day you know the being hobbyists are the ones who you know lose out. But.

03:34.42
Adz
Ah, oh.

03:36.97
Adz
Um, yeah.

03:42.39
youcantcompthis
The other thing I think is interesting about this is the the wording of it so fanatics collectibles and top. So I think from a tid perspective that means you know we're going to get Topps products with him in it. That's that's beautiful and and then the fanatics collectibles wording. Ah you had a.

03:51.47
Adz
Correct.

03:59.54
youcantcompthis
Actually I did a little bit of gurgling on this and I think that also means other and Nba card products. You know, whatever they're going to be called and whatever finance is going to call them. But it's also going to be jerseys it's going to be balls. It's going to be. You know all that.

04:15.20
Adz
There's.

04:15.49
youcantcompthis
Cool torrent totally licensed stuff that we're seeing at the moment. So.

04:19.62
Adz
It's It's definitely gonna be a ah complete like package of stuff. It's not just cards. Um, and you're right? It's not something that is sort of is caught us by surprise.

04:23.93
youcantcompthis
Yes.

04:33.60
Adz
Do do you think we're going to see other players now jump like I spoke to you about this pre-show is is there a chance that that Luca is no longer going to be panini exclusive and might and might jump across. Is. It. Is lebron the flat. The the beginning is he the the the I know the war chant so to speak of um of the fanatics move because a big signing. Do. Do we do we see Jordan jump on does it does it become a competition now like.

05:06.22
youcantcompthis
And so what? So what I wrote in the notes in our sheet was Weo so they've already got you know the easiest prospect to to gather.

05:07.33
Adz
I Don't know is there a ripple effect is my question.

05:15.51
Adz
Yep.

05:24.19
youcantcompthis
And they've signed him so you know that he is going to be the most important hobby person like it's just he's the most clear number one that we've had you know for a really long time and you know there's a very big gap between 2 and 3 and in ah on and on they've got him and then I think.

05:28.76
Adz
Oh.

05:35.48
Adz
For sure for sure. Yep.

05:42.74
youcantcompthis
Look I don't think eightitly Clark is going to matter to everybody and I think this you know next couple of sentences that I say is only going to touch on you know, 20% of our listenership. But I think Haitlyn Clarke is like the male equivalent of that might be. She Areim if she might go on. She might go on to be the all- time leading point scorer in the wm yeah like that's the type of talent that this person has so you know I think that.

06:03.41
Adz
Okay.

06:09.81
Adz
Yeah.

06:16.21
youcantcompthis
The momentum behind Wnba has definitely increased. You know in terms of the sport and the popularity and then I would also say too. We've had very incremental gains in the wnba trading card space. You know it's it's nothing. It's nothing big I'm not going to blow the dos off with this but I also think that's very important. So.

06:17.73
Adz
O.

06:26.56
Adz
Sure sure. Yeah.

06:33.97
youcantcompthis
Really think the thing that's also been on my mind too is think about how fanatics has been so aggressive with the other sports taking over the licensing before the licence deal is ended so it seems to me that instead of them just taking over Panini's stock instead of doing that they're just putting all their cash into signing.

06:42.28
Adz
Ah.

06:52.51
youcantcompthis
You know the next wave of people because I have I have no idea what they paid lebron to come across but it would not have been cheap like you know.

07:01.32
Adz
I Feel like he is one someone that demands quite a high price if you're if you're going to deal with him. Um.

07:06.60
youcantcompthis
And new Jordan before and this is why I don't think Jordan will come across I don't think a company can afford product up to page a to do this stuff because you think about it right? Upper deck's been paying him for the last twenty years to do nothing.

07:14.44
Adz
O o.

07:23.31
Adz
Can I um could I can I give us can I get my conspiracy hat on because these we know Lebron and we know Lebron and Jordan are both ah, we'll call them businessmen um behind off the court.

07:23.54
youcantcompthis
Why would you I meant you know how much I love a conspiracy.

07:39.55
Adz
Is is the word ownership up for grabs. Do you think Lerot there's that there's part of the deal that allows like it's not just an upfront amount of money that there's something else that you like if I want a jordan on board I wouldn't be offering him just a price or like do you know what? I mean like it. Feel like there's ah, there's a chance that that it's like you get a piece of the pie if you jump on board and and there's not many players in the world that I think ah would be offered such a thing.

08:15.74
Adz
And I think the only 2 basketballers that would be offered anything like that would be lebron James and Michael Jordan but um and know in 20 years it might be Victor win Viana but yeah I think at that level and if Kobe was still with us today I think that it would be the same like it's that like that caliber of player.

08:20.55
youcantcompthis
I I like I like the irons I.

08:34.71
Adz
Would be. We're not just going to pay you a certain amount of money you get a piece of the pie. You get a piece of the fanatics pie and that's just spitballing and and and theorizing but I don't know it's ah it's one of those whatever it takes to get those big names and I think Lebron's the flagship. But if you get Lebron and Jordan on board god you you? you've done a job.

08:56.49
youcantcompthis
And like your idea and I think it's actually like a very creative thought process. But I think the reason why Jordan won't do that is he's already got his own brand like he's he owns right? with you know with Nich and the another thing too is he just made 2.25

09:05.60
Adz
He is his own brand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right? The Jordan the Jordan brand.

09:15.47
youcantcompthis
Billion dollars of selling the hornets. So it's almost like someone like that. Yeah.

09:18.75
Adz
Um, is he does he is he has he put a submission in for pocket change.

09:24.44
youcantcompthis
I like a guy like that I don't actually think would they even care about owning a piece of fanatics and also too more to the point I don't think he's interested in signing autographs if he wanted to be part of the hobby for the last twenty years he could have made that happen. Do you know what? I mean like.

09:37.93
Adz
He would have very easily been. Yep, you're right? Yeah yeah I don't think it's a matter of him wanting to be I think it's the the I think the background of the hobby wanting him to be um god.

09:43.34
youcantcompthis
I Don't think this is a is this a real conversation. Do you know what? I mean it's like so I think the real is.

09:53.41
youcantcompthis
I Umme she mentioned the the froth.

09:57.56
Adz
Does him not wanting to be part of the Hobby Steer The goat debate. That's it. That's a different discussion where where we'll we'll park that for another for another day. But yes, yeah, hell yeah, ah.

10:05.72
youcantcompthis
I I think that's that's too deep. So let's talk about Lebron because I think there is some I'll be relevance here so gono michaelchaels who listens to our show I would say religiously. It's fair to say that so gonna hope you well I saw him posting on. 1 of the pages that he moderates and what will this do to the hobby value of that so I'll turn that over to you and then I'll I'll let you know what his thoughts were in that space.

10:29.20
Adz
Ah.

10:35.20
Adz
Um I I don't think it'll impact historical prices because there's still a scarcity with the the past product. Um I do think well Kobe Kobe autos were around for ages. I don't you know I mean like it hasn't really affected prices. It's just availability. The demand is so high that I don't think the I don't think the ah ah call it the lower or middle end will be affected. Um. At the top end. We might see see some impact. But yeah I don't think historical stuff is gonna change because there was also scarcity. It's not like we're going back and printing you know I mean old Lebron cards and getting him to sign them. It's it's all new product.

11:27.29
youcantcompthis
No so.

11:28.30
Adz
Is is Lebron in year twenty one or retired lebron. Do you know what? I mean it's not I don't think it's going to impact um in a negative in a negative way. But yeah, um, I'm curious now to know what what madrono thought.

11:36.69
youcantcompthis
And that's. <unk>no said he thinks that the prices will go down I think there's a really interesting take on it and so maybe what his perspective is is just a pure numbers thing. So if you have ten thousand of something and now there's going to be thirty thousand of them.

11:46.48
Adz
Oh.

12:00.19
youcantcompthis
You know the demand is gone. Yeah I mean look I'll I'll sort of sit somewhere between you and Jono because I think some of the lebron stuff is going to go down and the stuff that I'm very wary of is the irish stuff. So I think his high school autos is what's going to really suffer because.

12:15.24
Adz
Oh.

12:18.30
youcantcompthis
If you're paying say one or 2000 for that or you can get timeless moments but can you imagine like Lebron timeless moments or a lebron sneaker spotlight would you rather put your money into you know an irish uniform or that like come on. This is not a conversation like.

12:27.12
Adz
Yep, and I.

12:34.10
Adz
It's such you You think it's just going to shift the the market a little bit. Yeah, yeah, that's a good but I like that I like that.

12:36.00
youcantcompthis
You you desate and then you're talking about the scarcity of that old stuff like you can't tell me a jewel signed Lebron and Jordan patch autograph is going to go down like it's this not going to go down at all there only the only other.

12:52.90
Adz
That's yeah.

12:55.59
youcantcompthis
Place where I just want to sit in the middle ground here a little bit more is that the rejections from fanatics is that they're going to grow the hobby exponentially and they're going to be putting basketball cards into mba arenas they're going to be putting into targets the same way that they're putting out pokemon so that you know you.

13:10.15
Adz
Ah.

13:14.50
youcantcompthis
Demand for the cards exposure for the cards all this stuff and it's going to be that trickle on effect. You know the other you know the other thing that's really been on my mind since I've been traveling is how much advertising for gambling that there is in America and even so in London right? but just like here me ah for two two seconds with this.

13:16.50
Adz
Yeah there for sure.

13:29.33
Adz
Yeah, yeah, oh.

13:34.27
youcantcompthis
Fanatics is also now running a gambling thing. So Can you cross promote your gambling hand in hand with sports card and memorabilia or more than relevant question is would you think Fanatics would actually do that and in my. Heart of hearts. The answer is yes of course they would if they're going to make money or something that.

13:56.88
Adz
Course they will um, it's the question. The question it comes up for me is is is it ethical to do so um, that's 2

14:05.80
youcantcompthis
You think healthy cool conversations like that's the same thing. What you said before it's a thing for another show right? and I think we don't like really touch on that. But I think what the you know the really important thing is and this is what the criticism of paining is they actually had a lot of success but they didn't do any marketing and this is where fanatics.

14:13.50
Adz
Yeah.

14:24.00
Adz
Ah.

14:25.37
youcantcompthis
And you know potentially improve with demand for cards. You know they'll market it. They'll you know create all this enthusiasm and.

14:31.60
Adz
Sure Yeah look I I think fanatics are gonna be great for the Hobby and I love the idea of being able to go to a local like a sports shop in ah in a shopping center or like looking at a pair of kicks. And then being like oh there are assigned balls in here and there's a few autographed Jerseys and oh okay, I'm gonna get a box of whatever like I gonna pick up a packs. Yeah, it's great.

14:50.30
youcantcompthis
That Yeah, so. So I don't yeah exactly I don't I don't think that means lebron orders are gonna go down and that's where I'm heading this you know I think if you're telling me that. Ma Leb Run orders is going to make it down. Go down. Okay, yeah, that's fine, but it's I don't think that's looking at a whole picture of what's going to be happening here so look. Overall.

15:16.10
Adz
I Think there will be So yeah, there will be times where it dips because people will think there's too much of it available and then people will realize that the old stuff has a limited quantity. There was a huge gap and then the new stuff will have a level of Demand. That is already in excess.

15:38.11
youcantcompthis
Or that you can say you got in early now that the Demand's actually going up high and I think that we can't We can't ignore that argument I think that's probably you know and that's where I'm where I'm going to like lay with this to be honest, all right? So let's go from. Maybe.

15:43.30
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm good with that.

15:56.38
youcantcompthis
Most positive story that we've had in a very long time to quite potentially one of the more negative stories that we've had for a little while jamaant is out for the rest of the year so but I think you know the the thing.

16:12.84
Adz
Ah, yep.

16:15.12
youcantcompthis
The thing for me that I'm sort of sitting here chuckling a little bit and it's ah that's just my shade and Forehead just like totally coming through right now but we sat through we were very patiently waiting for jar to come back from suspension. There was this.

16:27.34
Adz
A.

16:30.94
youcantcompthis
Huge excitement with him coming back. The grizzlies were surging. You know it was all looking. You know, really amazing. You know and then this happened like it's okay, look it's It's really it's bad. This is not ah this is not a good thing but I think the take or the the thing I want to get from you is.

16:36.34
Adz
Yeah.

16:44.20
Adz
Not.

16:50.76
youcantcompthis
What does this mean for jam around in the next twelve months and what does it mean for jama out in the next five years like where do you sit with this kid now because al our friend of the show our one of our mean listeners. He's been calling him the the modern day la troll sprewell for quite a long time now you know I know Al's could be sitting there saying I was right already. So.

17:13.14
Adz
Yeah, ah, it's got la troll spreewell vibes. Well I'm I'm going through the um the Facebook page I tend to agree with Joe um Joe Fu Shack Fu thirty two who has said that jars on the Derek Rose career trajectory

17:30.71
Adz
Um, ah hope not I Really hope not true true I Also think that jar could have been there. We go yet.

17:33.18
youcantcompthis
I but see I don't ah actually agree with that because Derek Rose was an Mvp by this age I so you could say he's a poor man's Derek roses. You can't say he's Derek Roer

17:48.78
Adz
He's definitely not Derek Rose um but I I certainly I think he's an Mvp caliber player.

17:52.25
youcantcompthis
He's not a poor mance Derek or it's you I'm saying like that like Derek Rose 1 an Mvp I think do you remember how good that kid was it it was it was wild.

18:03.25
Adz
Kid was kid was all right. Kid was all right? You're fair, fair. Um, but you saw the return a couple of weeks ago oh few weeks ago now when jar came back. It was like nothing had like hadn't missed the beat.

18:12.76
youcantcompthis
And also.

18:19.89
Adz
Straight on the floor and and I was I was happy I was like oh he has learned his lesson. He's ready to ball out. He's ready to put this team on his back and I reckon the grizzlies might be pushing for a playing spot. And like they overtook he overtook Detroit's record within a few games. Um, he had 3 wins before Detroit did um, but and then to see this injury It's just it's it's ah it's a cruel game basketball. When when it comes to injuries and things like that. Um, yeah, it's really sad when you see someone in their prime go down like this and I think as long as jar does the work like he's he's showing that he's done the disciplinary stuff as long as he stays. With a clear hair does his rehab and comes back and does all the right things I don't see him not being a relevant player but hobby wise I think this could be a struggle. Sacks I got a couple of jars. But yeah.

19:35.88
youcantcompthis
And so so why don't we just um, read the next comment because I think the next comment is probably what where you just finished off and probably where I'm sitting with if I can be perfectly honest with you. So.

19:37.30
Adz
Are.

19:44.57
Adz
Cho.

19:48.19
youcantcompthis
Cory Gilbert says keeping all my jar and might even jump on some cheap ones over the next few months and so I think if you again go down through the comments a little bit more and I can't verify this in terms of the accuracy of this but I would also. Not disagree with either torn labour isn't a big issue long-term unless there's an underlying structural issue most people tear out the front and able to bounce back. So again I use Dr Google I had a bit of a look into this There's nothing to say that in twelve months he won't be back I think the other thing to really think about the the horrific injury that.

20:05.46
Adz
Oh.

20:17.49
Adz
Yeah.

20:23.17
youcantcompthis
Mal murra home. Yeah know when you work watching plain a don't think tooth. You know the sports science is so good these days you know I'm I'm not fussed about this but frankly at all so look. That's probably where I'm sitting I think he's going to get crushed though because this is now the second thing in.

20:24.85
Adz
Yep. Not yeah for sure.

20:41.60
Adz
Yeah, it's relevant. It's relevant. Yeah.

20:42.55
youcantcompthis
Six months which is not fantastic like let's be honest here and I think even like I'm not investing in this guy. So I've seen this from a very objective point of view I feel a little bit deflated with jar. So I think if you're holding jar and you've just bought into him and you know I think that. Feeling of you know disillusionment is real so I'm actually anticipating he's going to go down quite a bit. Yeah hundred a percent yeah and that's exactly what it is so look the card ladder statistics don't reflect that at all so all of his growth is apart from.

21:05.56
Adz
The here we go again scenario. Yeah.

21:21.23
youcantcompthis
Six months so in the last three months he's up 5% in the last month he's up 6% and in the last two weeks he's up 5% but I would hazard a guess if we come back and look at this in another month you know he's going to be down quite a bit. So this is the next part of the conversation right? So jar at the moment is currently sitting at 480 in Haig Cunningham sitting at 310 pyres Halliburton sitting at 100 and then the other one I just wanted to chuck into this conversation.

21:46.12
Adz
Um, yeah.

21:58.19
youcantcompthis
Was Zion Williamson because we haven't checked in on him for quite a while and he's actually playing pretty decent basketball. He's sitting at two ninety five at the moment. So.

22:09.95
Adz
Zion I mean I guess everyone's being very very hesitant is zion is that something that's going to happen with um with jar. Do you think.

22:17.78
youcantcompthis
I well look I don't know what's going to happen here I think Kate is going to strengthen up a little bit more because he's been playing despite how badly Detroit's been playing he's been playing well I think Halliburton's going to get a kick out of this and I do wonder if. A bit of tush comes out of jar and goes into zion.

22:40.30
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

22:40.90
youcantcompthis
And surprised how low zion is at two ninety five.

22:46.92
Adz
I'm um, no I'm not surprised because he he goes through his spurts where he looks amazing and then he's um and then sees an ending injury or I don't know spends too longer to burger joint and gains.

22:48.56
youcantcompthis
So it does so.

23:02.80
Adz
Ah, hundred pounds and just like he does like there's so always something with um with zion. He hasn't he hasn't had a trouble free season yet. So no no I just think. I just think

23:11.56
youcantcompthis
And for the last month he's down. Sorry after you.

23:20.36
Adz
Everyone's got the buyer be where people that are buying in now like obviously there are people that lost out with the hype train because he did crash a bit but it's all about the point in which you buy in I Just think people aren't sure to dip their where to dip their toe in yet because historically something goes wrong. With with jar with jar with zion and I think jar will have the same problem with people reinvesting down the track.

23:40.96
youcantcompthis
The.

23:48.78
youcantcompthis
I'm not trying to say something that would create a headline but this is not bibleware. This is like a very it's a crash. It's a very steep decline. So in the last month is down 25% the last three months is down 46% the last six months is down.

23:57.41
Adz
M.

24:03.65
youcantcompthis
49% and the last year is down 66 like you know we're talking about.

24:07.79
Adz
People are off off zion. They're well and truly off.

24:12.35
youcantcompthis
And in iron is he's actually playing pretty well and the Pelicans have got a good record.

24:17.77
Adz
So what needs to happen then to change his $300 price point.

24:23.99
youcantcompthis
And I think it's a sustained period of excellence and.

24:30.51
Adz
Because I think I think there are there are even time like ah the the ship rights itself when the pelicans go on a fairly decent stretch but we've seen once again, historically all of a sudden something hits the fan and.

24:38.58
youcantcompthis
Yes.

24:46.87
Adz
Pelicans are in the toilet. Zion's out for three weeks there's inconsistency again. So so my question is if zion is good through to the postseason and we don't see any nonsense does this tick up. Or do we stay is this the floor and we sit here and I've got no idea because yeah I think I don't know.

25:11.95
youcantcompthis
It So it is that stays here that basically just means that all the people that were holding these cards weren't hobbyists. They were just like literally flippers and people out So the hobby coming in. Yeah, right? yeah.

25:27.90
Adz
Sports Card investors.

25:31.40
youcantcompthis
So there I mean that's like that's an interesting you know piece in itself right? and.

25:40.94
Adz
Cade's an interester like they're all all of these players have got an interesting story I think Cade's gonna be a ah story. That's gonna evolve given how bad Detroit are at the moment.

25:52.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

25:55.84
Adz
Um, yeah, zion. But you're right. Zion's balling out at the moment. So when's that got to be reflected in the hobby I don't know one's bit and twice shy and that's probably my concern with jar as well like. The injury. We'll see how he comes back from the injury he came back from the the drama pretty quick like like pretty healthy because it wasn't an injury so we'll see how he deals with an injury like a season ending injury. But I think he'll be okay, he's not 38 years old like if Lebron was getting this surgery you'd you'd you'd be in retirement right.

26:30.67
youcantcompthis
And my changes know he probably wouldn't get the surgery probably just play through it at this point when he or they'll do something else is to get him through hey look um, final thought on this and we'll move on. But.

26:36.19
Adz
Correct so and know.

26:45.57
youcantcompthis
Of these four guys zion tores ca and gar what with Zibara now.

26:51.76
Adz
That's a good question. Um Ty Rese Halliburton and I and I know it's basically paying double compared to everybody else. But yeah I'm on I think tyree.

26:52.40
youcantcompthis
On of fun right.

27:07.71
youcantcompthis
I hey I actually think we've Mr Green because he's he's up quite a bit now see see I think I would be monitoring zons and seeing where the bottom isn't trying to come in pretty close to the bottom like that.

27:14.56
Adz
He is um, he's yeah, the ship is riding.

27:26.11
youcantcompthis
Two ninety five. that's that's super interesting to me.

27:29.18
Adz
It's it's It's very tempting That's for sure I don't know.

27:32.98
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27:52.65
youcantcompthis
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27:55.10
Adz
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28:07.45
Adz
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28:22.88
Adz
I'm excited I am gonna I am gonna make sure I am down there I would like to speak to rimp to juules to everybody down at Ejs I would like to know if I'm allowed to sign up for the tournament I don't know maybe we should go down and commentate.

28:23.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so.

28:41.40
Adz
And would be we be the the the good will well yeah, shoot out we'll we'll have a shoot out and we'll be like you know in all those basketball movies. You've got the 2 court side announcers that that'll be us. You know the ones I'm talking about.

28:44.14
youcantcompthis
I Thought you're gonna challenge me to a um shooter.

28:59.55
youcantcompthis
I Ah this could be um, this could end spectacularly bad or spectacularly well good going the way I think.

29:04.71
Adz
Be like what a great show that ended after a hundred and twenty five episodes that we got hence. But um.

29:12.60
youcantcompthis
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29:23.80
Adz
Um.

29:30.30
Adz
I am coming down. It's Sunday the fourth of February I do not have any plans at this stage. So I am going to lock that one into the calendar I will be down for sure.

29:31.18
youcantcompthis
Ah, you've come and done us.

29:34.17
youcantcompthis
And. So yeah, but I should pretend to the calendar to all, right? beautiful.

29:43.87
Adz
Awesome! Yeah well I guess we say thank you to Ej Cards as well for being being such a well longtime sponsor of the show now.

29:55.63
youcantcompthis
And New Year's resolutions. We got some listener feedback on this garret begg to try and finish off some west book rainbows and acquire law higher end Jordan inserts and yeah, definitely. That's on my radar too this year getting some Jordan inserts I think that's almost a no-brainer for a collector isn't it. Yeah.

30:12.19
Adz
Oh.

30:18.40
Adz
Yeah, yeah, whenever we go is next Matthew Hull bought all I can and need to flip what I don't want in the run to the finals I want to maximize value. However I want to make sure that the hobby is growing positively. So. No caving to lowball offers like I did last year. Um I also just want more taybs to be honest.

30:43.80
youcantcompthis
And selling hearts is hard because makes a lot of effort to list them and all this sort of stuff and then quicklyly on the market has been a bit fickle. It does feel like you are paving sometimes but we wonders that in the last twelve months is getting a sale is.

30:55.81
Adz
E.

31:03.38
youcantcompthis
You know a sign of success and it's as simple as that whether it was what you wanted or not yeah Anthony Mill for me, it's upgraded into a higher grades as possible and stop over buying. Yeah I think to over buying things. A real thing.

31:05.99
Adz
It's definitely difficult market at the moment. Yeah.

31:17.82
youcantcompthis
Wish The Hobby all the best in the future and hope it continues to grow value and younger generations can involved like us in the right way for the love to Ho last I hope it stops is windows shoppers only post what you're looking for when you can afford to buy no disrespect to stop the time Wasting. Um. Um, not too sure how the I feel like that's someone else's news resolution. Not yours though, you know.

31:45.55
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly have we got Ados he's got a few resolutions here I like this um number one stop buying raw cards off Ebay too many cards are returned with defects not mentioned in the description.

31:50.53
youcantcompthis
But to us.

32:02.44
Adz
Ebay's tightening up on on everything which I think is good including auto payment for sellers number 2 choose and a team to follow I think I'm a nuggets fan number 3 consolidate smaller value cards into bigger value cards I think that's a really good one. And number 4 get to the gym 4 times a week and follow macronutrients all right number 4 might be a bit. Um.

32:24.98
youcantcompthis
And let's just crossed it off the list straight away and cohenny. We know he's not going to be doing that.

32:26.76
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I'll come on. It's January you might be following it for all of three days who knows.

32:36.17
youcantcompthis
Does this think that he became a nuckets fan sort of 2 years too late, but they might not win another championship but the the trains already left the station I think for that. Ah.

32:40.96
Adz
I feel like I feel like he stepped onto the bandwagon kind of thing. It's it's true. Well maybe maybe that'll be white like you won't have to get to the gym 4 times you're too busy chasing the um, the band where the nuggets bandwagon to try and get on board.

32:54.13
youcantcompthis
You know so the consolidates more value cuts into big ones. That's like a no brainer and I think if that's what you enjoy and that's what you want to do perfect. That's fine.

32:57.39
Adz
Yeah.

33:09.34
Adz
Yeah.

33:11.35
youcantcompthis
This number one though. Um I'm gonna push back on this though because I was actually really made an effort to go to card stores in the Us and it has blown my mind How few cards are available to.

33:19.37
Adz
Yeah.

33:29.25
youcantcompthis
Purchase at card stores. The predominant thing that card stores sell is seal product for memorabilia and like Repapps and they'll sell some cards in the window. But frankly, the range isn't that great and then I would say the overall tricing has been.

33:29.64
Adz
Her.

33:42.25
Adz
And.

33:48.36
youcantcompthis
50% above comps. Let's just say it like that right? and um so fine. You don't want to buy off ebay. It's very difficult to buy from card stores and not to mention inconvenient and inconsistent what you're going to get so where are you going to go buy from and.

34:07.38
youcantcompthis
Don't disagree with his premise of what he's saying in fact, ah I would agree with it like I've had some absolute stinkers in the last twelve months you know raw stuff going off ebay. But like I think that's a little bit part of the the hobby unfortunately.

34:15.10
Adz
Ah.

34:24.49
youcantcompthis
So where do you go? So he's saying alt is a good thing to go to do you go to this Chinese ebay. Do you go to Ewccc Do you go to goldens I Just think I aren you going to have the same but aren you going to have the same issue on a different platform. So.

34:34.80
Adz
Um, yeah, it makes it difficult. Yeah yeah I Guess it's I gonna try and read between the lines a little bit. He said stop buying Raw Cards. So Maybe he's just gonna he's looking for graded stuff. Maybe he's like I'm sick of being disappointed by raw purchases because it's not exactly what I envisage like I saw in the photo there is a defect on the card. So. It's not going to grade. Well so bugger it I'll just buy the graded card.

35:05.22
youcantcompthis
I and I guess with more and more gray cards coming out of it's snow. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Maybe I took it from it like a 2 different point of view.

35:08.80
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah I I get the um I guess you'd call it and and they're not always just like trying to people aren't trying to mislead. Always I'm sure there are people in the world that that are like I hope no one notices. There's a dint on the back of the card I'm going to take it a photos in a certain way. So It looks a certain way but there are legitimate people that don't notice a defect and and sell it and then it doesn't grade well because there's a surface mark or something. But. Ah, guess Raw That's that's that's one of the terms and conditions with which you buy a raw card.

35:54.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and you know I was just thinking then is it also too about fresh. So for example, something can be packed fresh at the p a 6 right? It doesn't mean that you've taken the card and damaged it. You could have just literally taken out the packet could it.

36:06.88
Adz
Um, could be off center.

36:12.25
youcantcompthis
Know to a sleeve in a top loder and put onto ebay but I don't want to go down this rabbit hole. Actually let's let's move on this is um, this is getting too deep philosophically at Timothy price a couple of higher end value tatums. That's the second person's talked about Tatum I actually think Tatum is hot property at the moment.

36:13.31
Adz
Yeah.

36:19.69
Adz
Um, let's go back to the gym.

36:31.42
youcantcompthis
I want to have added to the pc prior to years and sneaker spotlight. Yeah, beautiful at downtown I don't have an a Kim boob I don't have still chasing other tables with tiding targeting adding these before the end of the yep Timothy that sounds perfect.

36:31.51
Adz
Snakey.

36:48.10
Adz
Yeah, we got um ah we got well Luke's just said try and pick up a lebron auto well, we've just said that's gonna be a whole lot easier. So maybe that's a twenty twenty five resolution is that when fanatics take over.

37:06.74
Adz
It was a 26 might be easier to.

37:13.28
youcantcompthis
25 26 but please don't um, base your life and gambling around that. So.

37:18.12
Adz
On our on our what we have to say um and Timothy price again.

37:25.71
youcantcompthis
I public again I'm added youance this listening to the show a bit earlier fish some old insert searchances. Yeah, you can't just have all these sets sitting around half finished. It's just a bit of nonsense isn't it really calm see for the wind or that one.

37:43.61
Adz
And we did inspire some some set chasing and some completion work. Yeah Nathan Lee thomas to finally get a shack heat uni auto I like that like very specific just like our friend. Um.

37:44.83
youcantcompthis
So.

37:55.58
youcantcompthis
So the up.

38:01.20
Adz
Sha fu in Travis Parker yep more rpas it's literally it it does it. It sounds like it doesn't matter. We're just gonna get cards that are rpas.

38:01.19
youcantcompthis
I stuff Privatevis park at more rpas. Yeah, beautiful.

38:17.12
youcantcompthis
You because you filter down your collection to that I think that's great way to go.

38:23.14
Adz
It's like I only collect collect. Um, yeah, that's pretty cool. It's the same I say same philosophy I guess as collecting an individual player 1 type of card continue work on my sets and hopefully pick up some cheap.

38:25.73
youcantcompthis
The.

38:38.78
Adz
Jar ssps at the end of the season. Well Dane yep, that's gonna happen. There'll be plenty of cheap jars. There's going to be plenty of cheap jars. Um, oh no, you never know it might not the hobby the hobby behaves people in the hobbyer.

38:41.10
youcantcompthis
And vain I think your wishes have been granted that.

38:48.70
youcantcompthis
Switch Switch science.

38:57.59
Adz
Behave very strangely. Yeah yeah I think there's some good resolutions there.

38:57.82
youcantcompthis
And in predictable ways. Yeah.

39:07.82
youcantcompthis
So that's really cool. So thanks er everyone for chipping in for that and yeah, please keep the the socials coming from at Woj Espn espn sources clippers stuck while and it is signed a three year one hundred and fifty three million dollars contract extension.

39:11.16
Adz
Air.

39:27.55
youcantcompthis
I don't I'll send this over to you first and you can answer this in a basketball perspective or you can answer it in a hobby perspective because um.

39:37.67
Adz
Hobby perspective I'll start with a hobby of perspective by go giving a moment's silence because that's how I feel Kawai is in the hobby. Um, but yeah, like from a from a basketball perspective I think that's really good for Kawa that's um, what's his per. So it works out as as probably if you prorate it to playing a full season. He's probably on close to 300000000 because he only plays half the games doesn't he.

40:04.91
youcantcompthis
I Wow I time think the reasonable like joke to make because he hasn't played a lot of games but to me also the timing of him now playing a lot of games and signing an extension is like very coincidental to me. But.

40:06.77
Adz
I'm being really really I'm having a dig at kawi right now.

40:21.91
Adz
I think it's like look I play a bunch of games in a row I'm not gonna do what I used to do extension sign kawa out for the you watch Kawa will now have a a bit of a break I think it's hard work signing contract extensions. You might need a few bit bit of um. Load management.

40:42.85
youcantcompthis
And which you think I think this is really important for the clippers because essentially they've gone all in on this team and now that they've added James Hard and then they're going into their new arena next year I think that was the whole narrative is that.

40:47.90
Adz
Oh.

40:58.67
youcantcompthis
They didn't want to go into this new arena in inglewood sort of undercooked and they weren't going to have a good team. You know they wanted a lot of momentum there. So I thinkwyle its health is really important to that the prospect of losing hard and Qua Leard and whole George Olderfre agency I think.

41:08.43
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah for sure for sure I do.

41:18.20
youcantcompthis
Is horrific so like what are they paying him $50000000 a year I mean that to me sort of gives me like nightmares personally but also to you know what was the second choice there. That's that's where my sort of mindset is going I feel like this is a really.

41:23.50
Adz
Ah.

41:30.59
Adz
What are you going to get back for him where where are you going to bring someone else in you like 40 games a season out of Kawa or 40 to 50 games a year out of Kawa is that better than.

41:37.14
youcantcompthis
It's such an all-in proposition. Yeah yeah.

41:44.87
Adz
Random prospect x that you don't know what you're going to get and Kawa's got a pretty impressive cv when he is on the floor. So.

41:49.94
youcantcompthis
And so that's exactly what Lawrence Frank said so Lawrence Franks he's like the gm after the clippers who is frankly a guru of basketball I actually respect like what he says and what he does a lot I've got no problems. But basically he said I you know i.

42:00.14
Adz
Oh.

42:08.92
youcantcompthis
Um, how did he say it. He said so quietai landed can't play a full season of basketball but not everybody can play basketball at the high level with a quire and it does so when he's right. He's like 1 of the you know the best in the league is basically what he's saying look ah I won't push back on that.

42:20.28
Adz
Correct correct correct.

42:26.82
youcantcompthis
So that's my sort of basketball take on that my hobby take on this though is that I don't think this is going to move the needle in any way shape or form and actually my hobby opinion on Kleard is that he is 1 of the most steady.

42:38.10
Adz
Yep.

42:44.95
youcantcompthis
Or stable commodities and I'm using air quotes when I'm saying this that you can you can buy in basketball because I think even if he never plays another game after today his resume is just impeccable and his the amount that he's signed is so low that.

42:57.61
Adz
Yep.

43:04.40
youcantcompthis
You know all of these rpas stuff any any rookie o that you can get of this guy I personally think is probably a bubble under comps or maybe it even under triple. So yeah, do I have anything objective to back that up with no I don't and we're been talking off-a about doing a Klin segment for a while but I just haven't been able to.

43:12.88
Adz
Yeah.

43:23.85
youcantcompthis
Put it all together in any logical sort of way so that that segment is coming but that's my opinion on Unqui in it I don't think has to be fun I I Just think the narrative we have to somehow say the narrative is.

43:28.98
Adz
We just try we. We need to find a way to make it more fun than Kawa himself because we know he's a fun guy.

43:43.13
youcantcompthis
Need to demonstrate to people like just how amazing this guy's resume has been already. You know to me I think that's the anyway that that's my quiet limited thing ah going from one veteran to another so Draymond Green's been reinstated I thought his press release about this was very interesting.

43:44.43
Adz
The.

44:02.86
youcantcompthis
Draymond in that he spoke to Adam Silver and that the conversation involved him wanting to retire because he didn't want to be without basketball and he didn't want to deal with this anymore and it's just the you know the easy way out and Adam Silver talked him out of it out of a rash decision like. Is it any more of a ah dream on green thinker say I parado.

44:26.24
Adz
I Don't know if he accidentally hit at himself. Ah during that conversation. Maybe maybe itd feel more dramond. Um I don't know the got.

44:33.19
youcantcompthis
What to say it was a pretty stiff penalty for like what he did and what he ended up so he got 12 games in the end. It's a very severe penalty. Oh yeah.

44:42.78
Adz
He's I don't know I feel like he it's ah it's a track record thing though like it's not his first offense. It's definitely the track record that is what what added to his penalty I don't know.

44:51.90
youcantcompthis
I It is but I think punishment and punishment and crime I don't think good I'm actually not a dream on defendant by the way like I'm just trying to be objective of others I Actually don't think it and matches. But I.

44:56.69
Adz
Not a match, not a match here. I don't Yeah I think I think Draymond is a look I think he's just struggling with with what his role has become because he's not the player he used to be and he's trying to reinvent.

45:15.81
youcantcompthis
You I think you do you think his role has changed though or do you think he's he's athleticism.

45:20.19
Adz
No I think he's still the glue guy. He's still to I think his athleticism is is letting him down a bit. He's not defensive player of the year Dramond Green and when you you sort of lose he. He's lost a step his his frustrations are coming to the fore because he that was what his identity was. Um I don't know I think there's still a place for him in the at the warriors. But yeah, maybe this is this is the whole this is the end of the road kind of thing that that last championship was there.

45:56.15
Adz
That Dynasty's Swan song I don't know I feel like they they're just the league is getting to is is getting better year by year and this and this warriors group they just they're getting a little bit older and I think it's not. Yeah I just I just I think they're gonna try and reinvent themselves something drastic is gonna happen eventually. Ah, but at the moment the warriors are are a shadow of them their former self. We'll see what happens when they're healthy if they can get healthy. Um. On that. There's other news if we want to talk about that at the same point. Um.

46:38.74
youcantcompthis
You will agree with you at the end of the dynasty thing and know I've already said this I think it's a really just sort of sad slow death that this team's dying and Wiggins is just in an absolute hole and Clay Thompson his good games seem to be almost infrequent now and. No drmon. You know, really really hurts this team and look I think if you're trying to find a silver lining out of this and I think if you're trying to find some hobby relevance out of this is Kuminga because it's obvious that the person who was benefited the most from Draymond Green's absence has been Jonathan Kuminga

46:59.53
Adz
Yeah.

47:09.88
Adz
Um, yeah.

47:13.90
Adz
Sure.

47:18.72
youcantcompthis
And what Mike got feeling all along with comminga was that he was going to be a very slow burn just for the fact that he was on such ah a veteran-laden team. You know I think that was always going to be the way he was not ever going to get opportunity quickly. So I think now is a really good time to be like.

47:31.55
Adz
Yep.

47:36.13
youcantcompthis
You know is comminga a good purchase or not you know I think that's the you know that's where I sort of sit with this personally you know the Hobby value of dream on Green You know I always try and tie this back somewhat to you know to card value I look.

47:39.90
Adz
Ah.

47:53.81
youcantcompthis
The best I can really find here is a 2012 silver prism ps a 9 I couldn't even find a piece a 10 have last sold for one hundred and ninety two usd the population of this is eighteen look here.

47:59.60
Adz
Yeah.

48:11.78
youcantcompthis
I actually think that's a very reasonable price for this personally and you know the rub you know the the topic of this segment is Dramond Green being reinstated. Do I think this is going have any impact on thing this is this is to me is like quiet loaded like if this guy never plays again.

48:30.81
Adz
Yeah, that's that's true. That's true.

48:30.87
youcantcompthis
His Hobby values set I you know I mean I don't think he's going to go up I don't think he's going to be going down and I'd probably say if anything this is probably a very good long term buy I don't think this is going to you know, go up.

48:40.80
Adz
Yeah.

48:44.78
youcantcompthis
I Don't sorry i't this is going to go down I think overtime it's going to go very slowly upwards. That's what I think is going to happen. Yeah yeah, okay.

48:47.40
Adz
Yeah, look there. There are players once they're in that twilight of their career that whatever happens at this stage isn't really the thing that impacts their their hobby value like the careers being played out.

48:57.20
youcantcompthis
Here and he's had more success than 90% of the league ever has had you know he's been amazingly successful. So look I've got a lot of respect for him I just.

49:08.24
Adz
Yeah, true.

49:15.24
youcantcompthis
I Just find it very painful like the way this is all just like filtering down. Yeah please yeah.

49:16.37
Adz
Watching it? Well I think and I I'll lead into the to the next bit of news and that's that Chris Paul is expected to Miss 4 to six weeks and and I think it was a very I want to I want to choose my words carefully because I don't want to say. Ah, don't want to say desperate but it feels like it was a desperate move by the warriors to stay relevant Chris Paul on this team like it was adding another point guard Steph Curry is their point right? And yeah I get if you have one of those 2 on the court at all times. Things ah things are in good hands like the ship is is being steered quite well. Um, but but yeah I think another old veteran on an already aging out like dynastic team.

50:13.31
Adz
Is not is not going to right? the right the ship I think they need something. Yeah, they needed youth. They needed some like to re-energize their list and and Chris Paul in waves looked great. But I think it's it's sort of it's. Making the the same issues more glaringly obvious with the injuries and now Chris Paul's fractured. Got a fractured hand left hand. Um, and he's out for 4 to six weeks so I don't know it just sort of adds to the problem.

50:35.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

50:45.30
youcantcompthis
That now so can I give you an alternate take on that so they traded basically Jordan pool for Chris Paul is that would you settle on that as a very um.

50:51.20
Adz
Oh.

51:02.84
youcantcompthis
Some of how the transactions happened. Yeah go and pool is currently dead last in the league with a plus minus of minus three hundred and forty two so um if you say to me would you trade.

51:03.12
Adz
Relatively speaking. Yes.

51:20.11
youcantcompthis
Someone with a plus minus of minus three hundred and forty two for arguably one of the better point guards of our generation but he's in the aging part of this career I would say most people be like yeah, that's totally fine like you know old wear a little bit of age.

51:28.18
Adz
Ah, ah.

51:37.42
youcantcompthis
Knowing that our team's going to be you know over the hill anyway, the other thing too is they've actually got enough prospects in this thing like do they need another jordan pool you know they've got Jonathan Keminger at 21 years of age. They've got moses moody which is he's probably the one that I'm surprised hasn't you know had a bit more uptick and then you've got this kid. This has come out Brandon.

51:47.86
Adz
And.

51:57.15
youcantcompthis
Choose my pronunciation podzsky steve po has come out and spoke about him multiple times saying that he's going to be played. He loves the kid you know on and on and on from my own little prospecting pile Jerome Robinson's on the team I look harshly.

52:03.52
Adz
Ah, yeah, okay.

52:12.54
Adz
I I yeah ah look look all right I read reframing the Chris Paul deal as um, we got rid of Jordan Paul and turned him into Chris Paul

52:14.56
youcantcompthis
Quite like him I'm sort of surprised he hasn't gone further. You know what? I mean like just does it matter that they lose Jordan pool like the guy in absolute headcakes.

52:28.91
youcantcompthis
I Come on. That's that's a that's a nobraener like's yeah.

52:30.55
Adz
That seems like a good idea, but it's yes I don't know but did they would they got more of just waving pool rather than getting Paul back.

52:40.60
youcantcompthis
If you could get something foror and pool. You'd do it. You know and that's what they did. They turned something into inside so I was actually added with as wisdom actually I'm going to do a little bit of of Russell's holiday tales at the moment. So what I had been doing before games was buying last-minut tickets on c geek.

52:44.10
Adz
Yeah, yeah, true true true.

52:57.27
Adz
Nice.

52:59.33
youcantcompthis
Because if you buy if you buy seats at tipoff. So if it tips off at 7 you buy a seat at 5 minutes or 7 or seven o'clock like people just dumped their tickets and you get really good deal. So I did that on multiple games and I was doing pretty good out of it when the wizards played. Home and the knicks came to town and I didn't factor this in at all and then the knicks poured out all the vacant seats so it was really difficult so in the end I just took a steep in the third arena apart. So I wasn't look. It was a fine seed.

53:33.80
Adz
No.

53:36.85
youcantcompthis
Every seat in the stadium is is pretty good. You can see the whole thing but it was not what I was planning at the side of the night let me put a tea that way. The other thing that happened and drew them. The Knicks fans were chanting louder than the wizards fans were and that's how many knicks fans in the crowd but golden pool did have a comical moment where he was leading the fast break. Somehow took 4 steps didn't get called for travel past to might have I think might have been Denny or Uzma and they hit a 3 pointer so it was that ultimate sort of like you know golden pool mo but the whole time in my head when I was watching this.

54:06.75
Adz
Yeah.

54:12.28
youcantcompthis
It that is abysmol this washington lizards team honestly was I just wanted to I just wanted to look up how many draft picks they've got in the future and you know do they own their own draft picks in the future and the answer is yes so they they do owe the Houston rockets a Draft Pick

54:13.18
Adz
Their train rick.

54:22.84
Adz
Okay.

54:32.22
youcantcompthis
In this cominging draft. But it's top 12 protected and then in 2025 it's hopped 10 protected so they're not going to be good this year that's already known next year I'm assuming they're going to try and tank again and then 2026

54:35.78
Adz
Yep.

54:40.23
Adz
Are.

54:50.76
youcantcompthis
8 protected. So. It's possible that they're mediocre in 2026 and they don't even get their draft picked. You know like it's it's a real nightmare this team like it think is there a more commented. Fan base in the league now than the Washington wizards. That's my question dear.

55:12.86
Adz
There's no other franchise that I would say has less upside or more downside than Washington um I don't like there.

55:21.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

55:29.85
Adz
They're at rock bottom and there's no ladder like it's nice that they've got their picks but there is no light at the end of the tunnel. They are stuck down the bottom of the well like there's no, there's no wemb Ben Yana coming in in the next couple of drafts by from from.

55:42.70
youcantcompthis
And so that that.

55:48.57
Adz
All accounts do not I mean like how do they turn this around. Um.

55:49.27
youcantcompthis
The situation isn't as stable as what you would want it to be I don't know because imagine if they lose 1 of those pixel 2 of those peaks in the next three years I thought would just be yeah I don't know i'll.

55:57.31
Adz
They cooked.

56:04.61
Adz
They don't have assets that ah that are worth anything to anybody else like yeah I don't know I really feel I feel for the for the wizards fans it's it's not. It's not good.

56:07.34
youcantcompthis
A.

56:18.58
youcantcompthis
I That's not the so the positives of that game for me was any Denny Ajaa I thought he played with law of heart and he he tried his best.

56:19.73
Adz
That that's for sure. It's not good.

56:30.96
Adz
Me.

56:33.22
youcantcompthis
And then I got to see og and an newbie again I was like I so happy about that I love watching that I play basketball so I was stoked about that I thought we could do a quick checkin and host the the K Nixon raptors trade so the K Nixon 5 and one since og has joined the team they won the first 5 games they've dropped their last one.

56:39.44
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's um.

56:52.97
youcantcompthis
That's totally fine hobbywise og in the last month is actually down 25% which I'm really surprised about it might be the fact that we just haven't had enough time to see some of the new sales coming through so we can maybe check in and again, but.

57:06.20
Adz
Yeah.

57:12.98
youcantcompthis
I'm I'm definitely shocked on that. Um the other one I wanted to check up to because is Jalen Brunson that's the the one that I'm um'm really interested to see how this guy has going because so the last month is up to 6% and that's probably.

57:26.90
Adz
Wow.

57:30.41
youcantcompthis
What? Ah I be expecting from this guy because you know I don't think he's the type of guy who's going to get that really big spike but is he someone that is going to keep on trickling up so he's currently sitting at 127 I think if we zoom out further on this guy. That's probably going to be the real thing I know I'm wrong I'm wrong I I was gonna say. If we look at the last year he's only up ten percent I thought that was going to be 50% could be perfectly to be honest with there I still think he's a good boy honestly with a way that.

57:53.92
Adz
Huh.

58:03.98
youcantcompthis
He plays basketball then I are then the last one's sorry man what we gonna say. Yeah yeah, that's it.

58:07.22
Adz
You know Brunson Brunson's good Brunson's good, but Brunson's found a place in New York I think so yeah I think yeah, it's not dropping any time we know we're not We're not bottoming out anytime soon. I think he's. Will be on an upward trajectory it depends it just it just depends on time I think I think there's ah, it's going to take a while for people to notice how good the knicks are playing at the moment.

58:36.30
youcantcompthis
Aga Barrett the last month he's up 30% I actually suspect that this is pretrade movement because he was already playing well before he was you know, moved on but he's been playing really well in Toronto. So. There's no reason that's we're goingnna keep going up to so he's currently sits. Sitting in $64 for a psa and silver population on that is high though it's one thousand three hundred it's nearly one thousand four hundred that's the only thing look maybe that's a hundred dollar card you remember there's forty bucks in a yeah yeah.

58:55.76
Adz
Um, yeah.

59:03.55
Adz
Yeah, that that's from the Jama Rant school of let's grade a lot of stuff. Yep.

59:11.40
youcantcompthis
Yes, right second last item so ad later this is ah a sale they put up I I'm putting this in because it's a Tim Duncan card too. So 9098 ultra Tim Duncan masterpieces it's a 1 of one so it's not just a regular Tim Duncan inertle card he say 7

59:27.65
Adz
Okay.

59:31.15
youcantcompthis
Came in out but it's sold for $42000 I I am actually shocked at someone that spend that much money on a Tim Dumpkin card is not normally this much money. Know going into you know, dun and stuff so I'm I'm very warmed by this you know I've personally felt that he's been undervalued for a really long time. So I love this? yeah.

59:52.80
Adz
Um I have a question about that like so how many one of ones are there of Tim Duncan because I know if you go to one thirty point you can download a checklist of like all of the all of the cards and that a certain player has so that might be a factor.

01:00:09.84
youcantcompthis
I don't know the answer to that and I would say that he would have 10% one of ones compared to with the modern play I just for the fact that there's you know, multiple one of ones in each set you know select pris mosaic blah blah blah that

01:00:11.79
Adz
No.

01:00:20.33
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah, so given this from 98 ultra maybe maybe it's a yeah.

01:00:31.93
youcantcompthis
Through 1 of one and.

01:00:31.97
Adz
I Don't know I'm I'm unfamiliar I'm unfamiliar with the um with the early one of ones I guess we'll call it. That's it Yeah na all good. All good.

01:00:45.35
youcantcompthis
Alrighty So this is a bit of an sorry man What we can say. Yeah.

01:00:50.98
Adz
Let's let's let's move past Timmy D.

01:00:58.57
youcantcompthis
I alright this is our last segment of today and this is around ebay listings and practices around listing so I was buying of someone who I'm very happy to purchase of and actually I bid on his things quite a lot because he always has stuff that he's a good and b that I'm interested in. So.

01:01:16.41
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:18.31
youcantcompthis
I tend I tend to go to his listings quite a bit. He was listing parts. However, as one of ones when they weren't one of ones so he was using listing of 1 and 1 if it's one out of 10 or if it's 10 out of 10 he would also write a listing one out of one so I sent him a Dm. And basically said look I think this is misleading and his response was well everybody on ebay does this which I don't really like that thought process that's like the whole thing of when you're a kid. And you were talking to your parents saying oh you know Billy did this and they said well did you jump off a cliff at the same time. You know what? I mean like if someone jumped off a cliff you know, would you do it too. I think it's the stas of the lesson. You know? yeah.

01:01:59.71
Adz
Yeah, it it doesn't justify. It doesn't justify the behavior because everybody else does it doesn't make change the whether it's right or wrong. Yeah.

01:02:11.97
youcantcompthis
For his exact wording was we also refer to the list of other s cellsves and look to be honest I didn't reply back him I just left it as is I reported a couple of them to ebay The automated ebay response was we see no problems with this.

01:02:21.81
Adz
Yep.

01:02:28.89
youcantcompthis
I reported as being misleading because that's my that's my gripe here is that people who are new to the hobby who are maybe looking for one of ones will put in 1 of 1 to think oh they getting a bargain here but actually the card is numbered to.

01:02:31.65
Adz
Yep.

01:02:43.98
youcantcompthis
30 or to 15 or to 99 not actually one of um, yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's exactly right? So I've clearly put my light line in the sand on this I'm definitely keen to hear what you have to say about this.

01:02:44.61
Adz
Or to one ninety nine like it could be anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:58.32
Adz
Um, ah we we spoke a little bit about this off-air I I've heard the term ebay one of one since I came back into the hobby and and started jumping in breaks. Um I've heard various various people refer to the the term.

01:03:00.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we did? yeah.

01:03:15.60
Adz
Um, but I also on ebay calling something an ebay 1 of 1 or referring to it as a one of one I agree with you that that is that is messing with someone's search algorithm like actually. Search term. So if I'm looking for a 1 of one and I get ebay one of 1 which is not um yeah I can see how that would be frustrating and and I agree that putting it in the actual title. Is intent to mislead. Do you know I mean like I think there's the description like in my if I've got a brief eye summary of the card and it's like yeah, come and get this Kobe Bryant ebay 1 of 1 number 8 of whatever right? because.

01:03:50.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so I suppose.

01:04:07.49
Adz
and and I'll remember my first few breaks like with Cherry Grayson would always say ebay 1 of one if it was the player's Jersey number or if there was any way to correlate the number of the card to like their date of birth their mother's birthday the number of children they have like. The the ridiculous number of things that someone can relate the number. Ah the numbering of the card. The embossed number back to the player earns it the title of ebay 1 of 1.

01:04:40.74
youcantcompthis
I So but I think um so think the way I presented was like was misleading right? and the way that the wording you used was um, not frustrating in terms of frustrating in terms of getting the wrong search results and I think.

01:04:43.68
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:49.20
Adz
Intent. Yeah.

01:04:56.55
youcantcompthis
Both of those perspectives is fine like you know I don't actually disagree with what you're saying. The only thing I would um disagree with here though is like so instead of saying 1 of 1 Why don't they just write jersey numbers or why don't they just write. This is how many children.

01:04:56.60
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:07.65
Adz
I Like that.

01:05:11.61
youcantcompthis
Or this is how many children an athlete has like you know I mean why do they have to use 1 of 1 when that is actually inaccurate and and then again in my mind like misleading so because if something was Jersey numbered that will be like I understand why collectors go for the jersey number cards I get that 100%

01:05:19.42
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:05:27.87
Adz
It's it's a it's a draw card though. But it's an audible draw card like calling it an ebay one of 1 the term 1 of 1 pricks your ear up like it's a it's a it's a buzzword but it's a buzz term.

01:05:31.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:05:36.52
youcantcompthis
And as I prick my ease up made it just gives me the absolute.

01:05:43.95
Adz
And I but I agree as as far as putting it into a computer and typing a search and it bringing up these things that aren't actually 1 of ones. Yeah.

01:05:50.14
youcantcompthis
I Having started this buzzword out and I and would like to have a word with them I don't like this at all.

01:05:55.14
Adz
The Urban dictionary would like we would have a consult with the slang we use in the hobby.

01:05:59.53
youcantcompthis
I Would like to speak to the manager please at that.

01:06:09.19
Adz
I'm curious to know what the listeners think I usually put a little um, post up on the group.

01:06:14.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah, let's put a post up about it to get the general consensus. But um I'll probably just edit out all the ones that don't agree with my opinion to be honest I'm like I'm pretty I've really sat on this one mass. It's just damn annoying. People was stop doing a.

01:06:17.12
Adz
Yeah.

01:06:30.71
Adz
Time to place people time and a place.

01:06:35.50
youcantcompthis
This is not going to be democratic this next? Um, this next segment at all just giving your heads off everyone but final thoughts. Add what do you got for me.

01:06:43.40
Adz
Oh goodness. Um I've got I've got a few ebay one of ones out the back but I'm not going to list them on ebay and put them in the um oh I'll list them as what they actually are how's that. Um.

01:06:51.82
youcantcompthis
Ah, chase. Yeah, that would be great. Thanks.

01:06:57.85
Adz
Yeah, been Ah, it's been ah a very very a bumper a bumper episode I think we've got there's a lot going on. Um, there's a lot to unpack in the league and in the hobby at the moment but I'm I'm happy I Like the way I think yeah we we were we were on on song today.

01:07:06.70
youcantcompthis
He he barely segueed at him. Um I'm proud of us. Actually that was amazing.

01:07:16.27
Adz
I'll save some of my segues for some of our future discussions. But yeah, that's it's interesting like I'm I'm sad a little bit sad about Jama Ant um but going to try and be optimistic and positive about about the future there.

01:07:21.80
youcantcompthis
I No it is.

01:07:32.45
Adz
Um, it's fantastic news and I think it's great for the hobby that Lebron is going to be signing but it it feels like by the time it starts happening Lebron's got to be retired so but at least he's signing. You know what? I mean like maybe he's planning like while he's sitting back watching bronnie play. He's going to sign cards.

01:07:52.46
Adz
Um.

01:07:53.21
youcantcompthis
I'm not mincing words here I want a lebron autograph and I think this gives me an opportunity to get 1 at a reasonable price. Yeah oh um, I'm stoked about this.

01:07:57.96
Adz
It it opens the accessibility. Yeah for sure for sure. Um, yeah, goodbye to the the warriors Dynasty um, yeah, yeah, and Washington and then and then.

01:08:10.24
youcantcompthis
It's sound of like a show recap to be honest said.

01:08:13.75
Adz
And then I don't want Jordan Poole on my team ever. That's my final thoughts.

01:08:16.83
youcantcompthis
You can you imagine if you got traded to lakers that will be that will be so delicious. Yeah.

01:08:22.45
Adz
Is that grounds for me to to actually to to stop following the lakers. No.

01:08:27.82
youcantcompthis
Can you imagine Lebron like holding his hub just watching Jordan Pool do Jordan pool.

01:08:32.29
Adz
I think I think Lebron would embrace his inner draymond and knock him out anyway.

01:08:36.94
youcantcompthis
And but I mean they're friends those 2

01:08:42.77
Adz
Oh goodness. But yeah I think I think it was a really good show I had a lot of fun I'm looking forward to seeing you back back in Australia though. It's not far off see you at the trade day.

01:08:52.56
youcantcompthis
I right? It's not far off. Ah we'll be back on the nineteenth. Oh yeah, hundred percent definitely I'll leave it alright guys my final thoughts for today's episode is jama I think keep your eye the pricing on that because you.

01:08:59.53
Adz
Post.

01:09:11.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, if he halves I think that's going to be a very interesting practice if that goes down to the 200 Ish Mark and then the other one is zion isn't it like that's the one that's really got me intrigued like the.

01:09:15.72
Adz
Oh.

01:09:30.82
Adz
What's the price point because you're getting tempted at two ninety five. yeah yeah it's true. It's very true.

01:09:31.16
youcantcompthis
Dip that heart is sitting at two ninety five yeah yeah I'm not even going to lie at like like at what point do you just say that this is a buyer. I and I yeah I just think that it's just such a such a crazy sort of 2 wo-year period isn't it where we've gone from something being in 2000.

01:09:45.40
Adz
Watch this space on zion.

01:09:55.90
Adz
Yeah.

01:10:01.98
youcantcompthis
Okay, I'm making up numbers down I'm just trying to pull up stasism all right? So in the last two years it's down 85% so it started at one thousand six hundred it of old time data. It was. It was a $2000 card

01:10:20.12
Adz
That's insane.

01:10:21.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's down 87% so it's sold for 2055 at one point.

01:10:30.87
Adz
That's insane I don't know I don't know if it drops below 200 I think I'll I'll bite think that's my point on price point.

01:10:44.58
youcantcompthis
A good thing. Yeah I the silverable thing those 2 though with zone and jar I I do think jar was maybe the less risky guy like I know he he's a bit of a scaly word and I get all that stuff and then I can.

01:10:46.64
Adz
That's where it gets irresistible.

01:10:55.94
Adz
Ah.

01:11:00.15
Adz
Scallywag.

01:11:02.10
youcantcompthis
Okay, you know what I mean he's been a naughty boy and I also get that his body's more like Victor Wemman yardda than the project's like I get that but at the same time this whole zion diet i.

01:11:08.58
Adz
He throws himself at the game.

01:11:21.19
youcantcompthis
Like I think that is a real thing and you know and I see the risk there I'm not looking past that it does that That's one giant isn't it.

01:11:21.91
Adz
Yeah, agreed agreed and that's probably that's probably why the the price is the way it is yeah.

01:11:35.89
youcantcompthis
You know I'd love to hear someone's perspective on this. It's not a card related person to say like these are the other factors that contributed to this you know people outside the hobby coming in Flippers Hedge fund investors that would jump you.

01:11:45.18
Adz
Ah.

01:11:52.35
Adz
Yeah, yeah, things that have impacted the um, the overall economy I guess is like the card economy that is.

01:11:56.20
youcantcompthis
yeah yeah I I'm gonna I'm going to leave it there with an unanswered question because I'm going to be lying in bed I'm sure thinking about this tonight and and jars. Yeah like what's happening in this case. Yeah.

01:12:05.62
Adz
Thinking about zion dreaming of zion and jar.

01:12:14.51
youcantcompthis
Alright glass. Thank you so much Adam thank you so much.

01:12:15.34
Adz
Thanks for another great episode. Yeah, thanks to everybody. We're keen to know your thoughts on the ebay. 1 of 1 situation. Yeah yeah, just to trigger russell even more.

01:12:22.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we'll chuck post for a a it sounds like clear. Yeah stuff just just just troll me relentlessly on the post. Yeah, so.

01:12:33.35
Adz
As it. We get. Yeah, you can put the post up so everybody please invite everybody to troll you ah all right guys? Um, yeah, until next week we'll um yeah, have ah have a good time. Hopefully yeah, pick up some good. Some goodbyes and yeah, tell you also.

01:12:55.75
youcantcompthis
Like.