Episode 129: Kobe 8/2/24; Trade Deadline Every Deal Recapped!

Adam and Russell catch up for an Emergency podcast to discuss the busy trade deadline; but we can't not discuss Kobe's statue being unveiled at Crypto.com arena.

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00:00.64
Adz
As ready as I'll ever be.

00:03.65
youcantcompthis
All right I'll try again.

00:14.84
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 129 you can't comp this Mba trading card podcast. We are your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson it is Friday nights. The trade deadline is gone stuff's happened.

00:35.35
youcantcompthis
Deadline. It's not our usual podcasting day but some people have Christmas some people have hanukah I have the trade deadline as far as I'm concerned this is my Christmas so I couldn't think of anything better to do than do a podcast. So I say let's go. Let's like.

00:47.55
Adz
Yeah, let's let's hit it Today's been a huge day. Um in Australia obviously it's the ninth of February but over in the United States it was also the 8th February which means it was.

00:59.16
youcantcompthis
I yeah yeah 0

01:03.36
Adz
0 Eight Zero two 24 the day that yes I get to speak about it. Kobe Bryant's um, personification was immortalized I guess at crypto crypto arena um, with the first of.

01:14.94
youcantcompthis
Woof that is a mouthful ad.

01:21.62
Adz
3 statues unveiled today. Um, yeah, it was a very emotional ah ceremony I watched a little bit of it and and I plan to to to watch it again. But yeah, very very emotional day. Very um.

01:39.46
Adz
Fitting unveiling I think.

01:41.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah I think having it on Youtube and on Facebook live for free is for me. Genius I think they executed that really well and then in contrast.

01:50.14
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

02:01.70
youcantcompthis
I have league I have league pass which is a you know a paid subscription I tried to go on today to you know, watch some of the footage. Maybe if the kobe thing maybe see some live commentary about you know the trade deadliners that's unfolding just there's nothing you know so I think.

02:02.41
Adz
Ah.

02:13.72
Adz
And yeah, yeah.

02:18.10
youcantcompthis
Having that live footage that you know everyone can access everyone can watch on demand you know I think that's a really good way to reach people and particularly stuff like this you know I think look I don't know how the numbers work but surely they can make much enough money out of you know monetizing that with advertisements or whatever in the middle. Do you know what? I mean like surely they can make it all work.

02:32.90
Adz
Yeah, yeah, like well we all pay for it like those that do pay sorry for league pass. We pay a pretty penny every every season just to for the privilege and the only thing we get is.

02:37.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

02:48.55
Adz
And Nba games that cut out halfway through that the audio is never great and.

02:49.30
youcantcompthis
yeah yeah I mean look we don't want to segue into a whinge about league past toy but it has been I think it's been worse this year than previous years okay

02:57.55
Adz
It's been good in parts but there there are additional features that I think they really need to come to the party with um, yeah, it's a good idea. But I mean but even covering but you're right covering things like the trade deadline.

03:03.73
youcantcompthis
Like a streaming service that streams. Yeah. Yeah, your your.

03:14.63
Adz
You're you're generating so much revenue from the viewers. This is an important part of the season This is like it's not just the hobby. It's the the sport itself like the trade deadline is huge. Yeah.

03:21.46
youcantcompthis
Look. Look to be honest, actual content today was pretty good. So Simmons had a podcast album. He I think he must have been podcasting as the deadline was going because then he's he actually put up. Yeah, so he had 2 up today then i'm.

03:38.56
Adz
Yeah I think he died they do do that though they they're very yeah. Um.

03:44.27
youcantcompthis
Again, looking through my feed wo had 1 up zack low did the Ringer Ryan rasilo did and the king's beat podcast which you know I'm sure millions of people subscribe to that point I mean.

03:59.85
Adz
It's always at the top of my do not subscribe list. Um, oh.

04:03.54
youcantcompthis
That to me is like ah a real contrast when you think about it. There wasn't no Tv coverage live but you can have what a handful of podcasts. You know that's interesting.

04:13.46
Adz
It is it is It is it A news thing is it a way that enthusiasts consume the media like do the people on League pass not want to see this stuff like um.

04:21.79
youcantcompthis
Um, but even if it was 2 dudes. Okay, let's just say it was woads just sitting there on a webcam that was streaming on Nba Tv I still would have watched that. Yeah.

04:28.60
Adz
I Know a lot of people that would that's why I'm confused like I get it. It might take away from the podcast content to an extent but the live updates and the I mean even just for the last day like it's not for the whole period. It's like.

04:38.40
youcantcompthis
Like that's what you want? Yeah because those yeah yeah, yeah.

04:46.80
Adz
Have a countdown have like build it up. It's It's a very important part of the of the season. Yeah.

04:52.19
youcantcompthis
And it's awesome too like it's just awesome to see trades go through and you know sort of dreaming of your team. You know, getting draft picks or getting you know current plays you know, whatever it is so anyway look we've sewayed hard within you know the first five minutes of the pod. So I think look we should start with Kobe because I know how close.

05:01.28
Adz
Care.

05:11.61
youcantcompthis
Kobe is to your heart I know this is you know something without lack of a better word special to you so why don't we talk about Kobe tell us about your feelings of the you know the the unveiling today I can't repeat I can't repeat the words you said before.

05:14.48
Adz
Um, yeah.

05:24.23
Adz
I was um I was trying to sneak it I was trying to sneak at work I was trying to sneak a peek at work I do want to watch the whole um the whole lot. But it's definitely yeah, well the the Facebook live video will be will be available I'm sure.

05:33.44
youcantcompthis
I'm sorry you can watch it again. Surely? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:41.27
Adz
Um, it was nice I listened a little bit to what Phil Jackson had to say and the the minute he gained respect for Kobe which was a sort of a different take and a on on some. It's interesting. How different people through Kobe's career have different views on different times and they've divulged different things.

05:56.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

06:01.18
Adz
And I think everybody talks about things Kobe's done but Phil Jackson was very um, very eloquent the way he the day he gained the most respect for Kobe was the day that somebody put down a teammate of theirs who was ah a role player on the bench. And they're like who is this guy and Kobe just stood in and went He's part of our team he puts in the work I don't want him disrespected. He's as much a part of this as I am and and Phil Jackson really made a point of that. So I think it was good I think it was really good.

06:29.72
youcantcompthis
That's awesome. Yeah.

06:38.52
Adz
But um, yeah, look ah I'll admit I was at work and a tear did come to my eye it was. It was very emotional I think Vanessa spoke very well. Um I think the anticipation of what was coming was was really was really special for me.

06:41.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah, very much.

06:53.67
youcantcompthis
And yeah, like all.

06:56.20
Adz
And it was like oh what moment could it be and then when they unveiled it and it was the the number 8 hand in the air after it'd hit 81 points it's like of course it is.

07:08.30
youcantcompthis
It's it's an awesome statue I've got to say that and there are some statues better than others throughout the Mba landscape and I would actually put this one in terms of proportion size and also the.

07:09.30
Adz
Um, yeah I agree agree. Yeah.

07:20.74
Adz
Oh.

07:25.26
youcantcompthis
Details applied to it I would put that you know really close to the top. Honestly, they've done a really good job with it. So.

07:30.45
Adz
yeah yeah I think I think it's great and it's um, it's 1 of 3 that are going to be unveiled. They said there's gonna be 1 Vanessa said there's gonna be there's gonna be 3 statues around crypto.comarena formerly the staples center there's one in e number 8 which was unveiled today.

07:34.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah, talk to us about that. Yeah.

07:48.24
Adz
Which is from the 81 point game. We don't know what the other two are going to be but 1 will be in the number 24 which is the second half of Kobe's career and then there'll be one that is ah Kobe and and gana so sort of yeah.

07:56.19
youcantcompthis
That Yeah, that's cool.

08:02.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and that's a nice touch from the lakers. Yeah yeah.

08:07.24
Adz
Yeah, and Vanessa said that this the the um so this is part of the project and it's called the the house that Kobe built and and I was speaking to you offair about this like magic and Kareem kind of started this dynasty over at the forum. And then the second phase of that was when they moved to like they moved from the forum to staples and then and that's when like then yeah, Kobe and shack took took the world by storm and and the second phase of of the lakers dynasty is sort of was built and paved. So.

08:35.33
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

08:41.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah, very.

08:43.78
Adz
I think it's very nice that there's sort of there's not many players in Nba history that you can say ah that this makes sense to do. Um, there's probably 1 other that I said that I think might down the track think about a similar narrative. But it might be 3 statues in 3 cities. Um do not I mean like there's there's not many people very much so very much so but like the yeah for sure for sure.

09:07.60
youcantcompthis
Ah, yeah I think you're talking about Lebron but I suppose that the difference is though is that like Kobe was taken too soon I think that's the nicest way to say it isn't it and that and there is something I think for me the ironic part of this is that you know he was gone before magic was.

09:25.45
Adz
Yeah.

09:26.93
youcantcompthis
And I think if we're having this conversation twenty years ago you know that narrative just like just doesn't make sense and I think probably in my head look I'm not nearly as there's not the same emotional attachment for me with Kobe that you have but I will say this is that.

09:30.40
Adz
That doesn't no.

09:37.67
Adz
Um, yep.

09:44.10
youcantcompthis
It's when you see days like this. It's when you actually realize Yeah, he's not here anymore and this is the stuff that you know he is missing out and you know seeing his kids grow up and seeing his statues and his Jerseys's being retired all that stuff you know like it's it is. It's It's a tragedy isn't it. Yeah, so.

09:49.85
Adz
Ah.

09:54.10
Adz
Yeah, definitely fit it. Yeah.

10:01.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah I also say any like final thoughts and I think what we should do I think appropriately for this show is talk about Kobe Bryant Cardt so I've I've got a couple I definitely want to talk about and I'm sure you've got more than a couple you would like to raise.

10:14.17
Adz
Um, look I was gonna say it's probably the one I keep going back to the most as far as the cards that I've got and that's the um, the closing statements. Um, and I think today's a really good day to mention that card because that's yeah, yeah, that's some.

10:19.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, okay, and get get your Kobe's out and look at them today. Yeah, do you know I feel like this is the the day. Yeah.

10:32.00
Adz
That's a good point I've got I've got my my case um tucked away at the moment. But yeah, that's something I I will do I did reflect a lot after seeing the unveiling and yeah it was one of those days like that closing statement to be there for a part of history that means a lot to me. Um. Like I've seen a lot of the statues at Staples and I now I Guess it's on the on the on the list to get back to crypto and and see these this series. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure for sure. So yeah, the closing statements is probably the card. That's one of the nearest and dearest.

10:55.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely or wait till the series is done and and check it back out. Yep.

11:08.80
youcantcompthis
1 think you better put this on socials ad my.

11:10.30
Adz
To me I I will I think I think it was episode 100 but I showed this that card. But you know I'm just I'm not trying to pitch it at people to go back and listen to episode 100 um yeah ah I will place it on socials.

11:18.34
youcantcompthis
That's a good.

11:23.57
youcantcompthis
Um, it'd be. It's easier if you posted it on socials come on Ed yeah.

11:26.87
Adz
Ah, there's another couple. Obviously the tops Chrome 1 of the the the the most iconic Kobe rookies.

11:33.77
youcantcompthis
That's the one so I can see to my head without you even talk you know seeing the picture. Yeah.

11:37.63
Adz
yeah yeah and um yeah I think they're probably my my 2 most iconic and then ah I've got a couple of Kobe Autos that yeah I will I will share a little bit on socials just to um yeah.

11:47.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

11:52.55
Adz
Pay tribute to the house that Kobe built.

11:53.75
youcantcompthis
So I was thinking about it today. What would I if I was going to buy a kobe today. What would I buy and my thought process hasn't moved a lot since I bought my kobe so I bought a kobe in the last twelve months I got a two thousand and twelve thirteen elite signatures on card. Autograph.

11:58.98
Adz
Have.

12:08.16
Adz
Yep, thus.

12:12.20
youcantcompthis
Number to 199 considering where the market was I was very happy what I paid for it. The boys at ejcards looked out to me really well said you know that's fine I've done that now if I had unlimited funds where would I where would I go where would I be looking at so I did find this one which i. I'm not going to lie to you I'll slightly froffing over so eighteen nineteen speaker speaker sneaker spotlight.

12:38.36
Adz
Ah, is this the one where oh no, it's not it's different 1 Yep.

12:39.86
youcantcompthis
So this is the the horizontal one number to 49 on card. Autograph you know, obviously it's got the the noir edges but geez that is an absolute spectacular card now.

12:50.20
Adz
Ah.

12:56.20
youcantcompthis
What I think we should do for our own socials is do like the card ladder graph. So I found the last 3 sales in January Twenty Twenty it sold for three thousand and fifty Usd August Twenty Twenty it sold for ten thousand one hundred usd

13:00.41
Adz
Oh oh boy, this is gonna be very interesting.

13:14.10
youcantcompthis
And then November Twenty Six 2023 it sold for 20000 a UD so twenty thousand aud d

13:21.58
Adz
But 20000 usda

13:24.59
youcantcompthis
A UD so that's thirteen thousand usd it's sold for. So it's very very steadily gone up over the last series. What's that nearly four times out. So.

13:29.30
Adz
Oh wow.

13:41.73
Adz
That's crazy that is crazy.

13:44.28
youcantcompthis
I Think a card like that that is you know think the only way to say is iconic isn't it really and I think the price is reflecting that and.

13:51.87
Adz
Yeah, that's a that's that is um, that's actually a pair of Kobes that I did want to own funnily enough. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, nice cart. Very nice cart.

13:59.85
youcantcompthis
They look grant.

14:06.11
youcantcompthis
Not bad. The other thing I want to raise with you to today was the the game today. Everyone got given a Jersey and if you go on to ebay. They're already for sale on ebay. The actual material looks.

14:14.45
Adz
Wow.

14:24.97
Adz
Yeah, of course of course.

14:25.35
youcantcompthis
Snake skin like so it's a mumbus you know Jersey yeah, so buy it now. There's sort of selling between that 303 50 usd mark and there's also auctions currently listed so that the auction will end the next sort of week or so and we can check back in on that but look.

14:34.19
Adz
Well yeah.

14:44.30
youcantcompthis
I'm not the biggest memorabilia collector and I'm again i'set I'm not the biggest kobe guy but I got to tell you they look absolutely amazing and I'm going to Chuck a couple of bids on and see where it goes I'm not expecting to get 1 but at the same time. Yeah, absolutely delicious.

14:55.82
Adz
Or care. That's some she a they they they do it well down at crypto they do they? um.

15:09.59
youcantcompthis
It's It's a sick looking Jazzy honestly.

15:10.21
Adz
They put on a show and I'll tell you what they look after the they look after the fands too like everybody that attended the game is really special. Everyone was wearing the mum but like the team wore the mumber jerseys they lost but did what I mean like they really came out to to really celebrate the life of Kobe Bryant today which was.

15:28.98
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

15:29.83
Adz
Yeah, in the career. So yeah, very special.

15:31.50
youcantcompthis
If you could have any kobe card. What would you be chasing there.

15:39.72
Adz
I'd want the refractor the tops chrome refractor in the pristine bgs 10 but the black label that I would want one of those um personally in the not worth more than $100000 and I might actually one day be able to afford.

15:40.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, okay, yep.

15:55.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

15:57.14
Adz
But just be a kobe Kabom that's um, that's now on the wish list is a Kobe Kaboom I probably need to do that sooner rather than later at this rate. Yeah.

16:01.35
youcantcompthis
Know Yeah, So I think yeah I was going to say I feel like that's the type of card that will just keep trickling up. They weren't it. It's I don't really think it's going to spike up. Per se and I don't think it's going to come crashing down either. You know you might have some fluctuations here or there but I can't really see that So I think for me, um, I've already talked about this I'm going through this sort of huge like Veterans phase and I'm just enjoying all that and.

16:18.20
Adz
Okay. Yeah.

16:31.46
Adz
Oh.

16:35.50
youcantcompthis
Um, a sucker for patches and I'm a sucker for on-card autographs. So I think for me I think that's where I'd go and that's what I'm just looking at now I'm looking at one thirty point I'm looking at some marketplace sales vertical flawless Kobe from 1718 I love that year in terms of basketball cards.

16:40.97
Adz
Yeah, oh.

16:52.58
Adz
Yeah.

16:54.88
youcantcompthis
Bgs 9 sold for Eight Thousand five hundred usd which is a ridiculous amount of money. But it's also not like you said before it's not like a $100000 either like it's you know in ah in a crazy pipe dream. It's possible, but that seems to be about the going price for a kobe patch autograph in that sort of.

17:05.62
Adz
Yes.

17:11.30
Adz
Yeah.

17:14.80
youcantcompthis
You know falls car. They're all sort of around this one for 4 6 but they're all around that sort of 8 eight and a quarter eight and a half yeah yeah all right final thoughts on Kobe mate.

17:22.16
Adz
Yeah, some it's phenomenal. Um, it was a really special day I can't wait to watch it again. Um, shame the lakers didn't get the chocolates so they but they were playing the nuggets.

17:38.95
youcantcompthis
Not It's a just a fraction better than Lakers at the moment I wouldn't take I wouldn't take that too hard. Yeah.

17:39.50
Adz
So.

17:43.88
Adz
Just a little bit just a little bit. Yeah I'm not I'm not really taking it to art I do I I'm surprised my reaction to the to the actual statue like now that I think of number 8 that's the moment I do think of like it's not. It's not. There's a lot of comparing.

17:57.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah, on.

18:03.69
Adz
Moments with Kobe especially with the Jordan comparisons and the the fadeaways and bits and pieces like the parallels that 81 point game is Kobe's like that's uniquely his so it doesn't surprise me that that's.

18:20.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah, do you think any haters will point that out that that was a moment of his individual success and not a moment of team Success am I or am I going too far with that like analysis.

18:20.93
Adz
His moment. Yeah.

18:30.76
Adz
But this is a celebration of him not the team. No, but that's but that's a thing like there's all this team success that he's been a part of this is uniquely just Kobe like you can read team into a lot of the other stuff.

18:39.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, death.

18:47.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

18:48.22
Adz
You can relate. You're not a mean like this is probably the most selfish Kobe Spotlight moment

18:54.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you know there's like a lot of like Lebron haters and he'll just get criticized for you know, anything that he'll do I just wondered if there'll be a bit of dar about it all right now I definitely not let's go to a.

18:59.88
Adz
This is true. That's all right? We're not bringing the goat debate into it. Yeah cool.

19:11.47
youcantcompthis
Let's go to a break anyway.

19:18.96
youcantcompthis
Perfect. So then um I'll be able to pick up that gap and then I'll just copy and paste the add into there. So ah, it just heaps easier for me to bookmark I'll just write a small note and then 1926

19:21.78
Adz
Sweet I like it.

19:32.75
Adz
Let's see year I was born. Yeah, ah.

19:33.25
youcantcompthis
1926 you wish all right guys. Welcome back. So we are here for Russell's Christmas day which is the and nbatrade deadline bonanza. We are goingnna go through every single trade some of them. We gonna go through a lot quicker than others for obvious reasons. But there's. There's a bit here that I wanted to talk to you about I think for me, the big thing to talk about is the Charlotte hornets I think they've completely just you know broken down their roster and you know the washington wizards you should really be paying attention to see how it's done how you blow up a roster and you know in. In 24 hours you basically just you know revamp your future. But I think I want to turn it over to you for the start because I feel like you're not going to be as passionate. Um as I am about this but I definitely want to get your take. What is the 1 trade for you that you think is important and who is the. Ah, second part of the question is who is the winner out in your eyes of the trade deadline.

20:35.71
Adz
All biggest 1 and most important um I think funnily enough I actually think the where is it.

20:51.24
Adz
It's definitely not the knicks pistons trade is it. Gordon Haywood is the one I think that's important I think um, we spoke early in the season about the thunder making a move.

20:57.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

21:09.17
Adz
With all the picks they had and it's funny. They still really haven't made a move still and they've got a veteran on board for this young Corps they're heading to the playoffs and they've just brought a veteran on board to to steady the ship so to speak.

21:11.72
youcantcompthis
My yeah.

21:24.29
youcantcompthis
That's right? So the argument could be made that they could make a colossal package and get you know they could have been in the James Harden stakes if they wanted to because you can make him. Okay I'm going to make the argument that the biggest piece move this trade deadline was actually James Harden

21:30.97
Adz
Yeah, very very easily.

21:41.25
youcantcompthis
Yes, it was a couple of weeks ago but I think if you look back at the trades from this year I think yeah, but he was in my head. Yeah, that's in my mind that's like the biggest piece you know so but they had nothing to do with that at all and then look I think look I think that's a.

21:42.25
Adz
Oh yeah, it's like a couple of months ago yeah fair fair fair now you're right? You're right as part of the trade season you are correct what about ciaca.

21:59.88
youcantcompthis
Ah, really good trade for both teams I don't get me wrong and I think also for Indiana you know I've already said how high on this trade I was I think he fits into them but I think at the end of the day I think the issue for Indiana is they've made a very clear delineation of how they're going to obtain talent and.

22:00.11
Adz
Oh. Yeah.

22:16.43
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look I think I tend to agree with the regards the harden I'm I'm more I guess I'm focused around the February trades as far as this last minute. Yeah yeah.

22:16.70
youcantcompthis
Know it's not going to be through free agency. It has to be through trade. So I think do you know what? I mean I think really for me. That's what the narrative for me. That's what that's more about yeah.

22:29.34
youcantcompthis
Note that's what no, that's of course talk to me about Gordon Haber because actually that's not the trade that I had in my head. So I think this is good for us to to break to break down a difference. So why do you think this is so important.

22:36.70
Adz
Okay, so so I well Gordon Haywood is I mean you look at what the hornets are at the moment and I mean it's pretty obvious from what's happened that the hornets are blowing everything up.

22:52.10
youcantcompthis
Everything? Yeah yeah, definitely like this.

22:55.76
Adz
Like they they they realized how bad Washington are and they're trying to be worse to try and fight for extra picks.

23:01.78
youcantcompthis
I mean the the irony is they'll probably be still better than Washington but at least they've gone. You know.

23:09.39
Adz
They don't have Jordan Paul they can't be worse. Um, it's but but what they're doing is they're giving Gordon Haywood an opportunity. He's a veteran and he's he's had some some good seasons.

23:12.12
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

23:26.46
Adz
But they're they're they're giving Gordon Hayward an opportunity and the hornets are ah starting to get pieces right? So they can make them wave people. They can mash people around. They're accumulating picks to make other transactions in the future and and I think that's they're sending a clear message which is the first time anyone's been clear about anything with Charlotte at the moment like in a very long time. So I think they're. They're very, they're signaling very clearly they're rebuilding and they know what they're rebuilding around based on the moves. They've made right? Gordon Haywood now has an opportunity at a team that is one of the best in the west.

24:06.13
youcantcompthis
My yeah yeah.

24:17.64
Adz
And they haven't given up much to do it.

24:24.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so Gordon Haywood was traded for therezily me missic tray man batans and 2 second round picks from Houston and Philadelphia and some cash. So really, that's just a salary filler.

24:31.88
Adz
Yep.

24:36.22
Adz
Dip.

24:41.89
Adz
Yeah.

24:43.41
youcantcompthis
You know to get the deal done and there's nothing really for me. That's significant look I think obviously the person I think the most upside is tray man but I think if that's the best play that you're getting back like we're really talking about you know the edges here. We're not talking about you know, something's you know, going to.

24:49.31
Adz
Yes, that's an interesting one like it's an interesting part of the deal. But.

24:58.13
Adz
Sure I think yeah.

25:01.78
youcantcompthis
Move the needle enormously. So where do you think Hayward fits into the the thunder rotation because this for me is not is not cut and dry.

25:09.36
Adz
I Think he's a good backup I think he's a good role player and I think he's veteran leadership for a group of young enthusiastic players that are excited about to make their first playoff run.

25:19.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so you think he's not so much gonna be playing 35 minutes a game you think he's gonna be just talking to them. Yeah.

25:27.29
Adz
20 to 25 minutes roleplaying off the bench giving advice to those those players that ah, they've only been in the league a few years and and keeping steadying the ship so to speak so really re giving some reassurance to those. Um.

25:38.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah, the.

25:44.91
Adz
Those yeah that young core.

25:45.70
youcantcompthis
So yeah Espn has this thing called depth charts and it is amazing. How quickly they update them and look I don't think it's always accurate but at the same time they're pretty good so they've got Gordon Hayward on the second unit playing small forward and power forward.

25:50.20
Adz
Who.

26:02.35
Adz
Really I can see it I can see it. He's got a history of injuries. So I don't know I think he's very versatile and I think he fits in their system because he will fit.

26:04.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, look I I probably I probably agree with that. Yeah.

26:21.70
Adz
Especially if he's on a successful team.

26:23.74
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, all right.

26:28.85
Adz
Yeah, interesting trade I Just thought I thought it was um I thought it was good I thought it was really good.

26:34.80
youcantcompthis
So I think for me, the wiener is the knicks because I actually think they got the best player on trade deadline which was bogdonovvich I I probably rate him a bit more than hayward at the moment look I think Hayward is probably a better shot creator. But.

26:45.91
Adz
Yeah.

26:53.78
youcantcompthis
I just feel like his athleticism has declined so much now that even bo donovi who was 35 years of age I still sort of in my head he can just do a bit more and he's a bit more mobile and also he's shooting is excellent. So.

26:59.56
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

27:08.46
youcantcompthis
Look I'm really going to just lean into what simmon said today I'm not even claiming this is mine own. But basically how he explained it was bo donovvich is going to be perfect for the k next because he'll play the second unit minutes and he'll be able the go to guy which is what they didn't have before with Jalen Bronson so that's you know where he fits in I think for me.

27:22.48
Adz
Oh.

27:27.31
youcantcompthis
The other reason why I think this is such a good trade for the knicks is they didn't give up any future assets. They just basically traded off you know pieces that again to look.

27:32.47
Adz
Future Second round picks are literally like it's not a. They're not even really picks. Yeah.

27:39.76
youcantcompthis
I'm not fussed about that at all, you know I think that's totallylly fine I think also too the other thing you need to keep in mind here is Evan Fournia who's basically been playing just like do not did not play coach's decision the entire season to replace that with Alex Burs that's the other one too because this is to me like where I think.

27:50.55
Adz
Yeah.

27:58.65
youcantcompthis
We do need to have a bit of conversation around thebes and we've talked about this with og right? We know he has particular guys. There's also a part of my head where I'm like I don't think Boggoovvi is going to be playing crunch time but maybe Alex Bos could be I actually like him in terms of he's like a little a bit more rugged for me and.

28:12.62
Adz
It's interesting.

28:16.23
youcantcompthis
Ah, can see him like getting a bit of time look I think in terms of fan fantasy I was gonna say fantasy wise but card hobby wise which is also a fantasy isn't it really I think for me what I'm looking at here is quinin grimes and Mallachi Flynn you know they're the ones who I think have probably got the most upside in this.

28:18.31
Adz
Solid.

28:31.63
Adz
Yep.

28:35.42
youcantcompthis
But they're going sent to the pistons who is just you know it's just a bit of a mess at the moment and I do wonder with losing Bog donovvich actually they're going to be worse because you were speaking about before with Gordon Haywood being like the locker room presence I find it difficult to believe that.

28:45.60
Adz
Yeah.

28:54.88
youcantcompthis
He was a bad locker room presence there. So how is getting rid of him gonna make it better that that's what my sort of fear is for the pistons and they've been historically bad this year already. So you know.

28:57.84
Adz
Ah.

29:05.74
Adz
I Don't know I I've been I've been I've been on the um on the slack with a couple of mates basically talking about the pistons and there's a new prediction that they're going to get over ten wins now.

29:17.66
youcantcompthis
Look Jade and Ivy's being plain.

29:20.87
Adz
There's only 3 to go um that that's a low bar. But.

29:23.54
youcantcompthis
Look jade and ivy's been playing better Kate is actually been playing excellent I think if he was on a team that had a winning record he would he would be an old star I think that's not outlandish to say something like that. Yeah, they're got talent him but I just think.

29:35.42
Adz
I want now this ends for Detroit because there's some talent there.

29:42.23
youcantcompthis
The next couple of years is going to be really you know difficult to manage you know so so look I think if we're talking about you know hobby upside. Yes, we can talk him ala ki Flynn but I think actually for me the winner of all of this losing Alec Bike's losing Bogdoovic I think this is going to be more shots for jade and ivy.

29:46.71
Adz
Fisher.

29:57.96
Adz
True.

29:59.55
youcantcompthis
And I think that's the one for me that I've sort of really been keeping like a bit of a sort of a half eye on and then of course Kate Cunningham that gives him a couple more shots I think the other Detroit piece to talk right here to is Killian hay. So Killian's been waived I know al a friend of the show is.

30:04.79
Adz
Home.

30:16.13
youcantcompthis
Can we say he's heavily invested or can we say that he just loves. Yeah.

30:16.43
Adz
He he used to be invested I don't know I can't imagine you've been accumulating much killy and Hayes I know he he was he was he was he was focused on kill and Hayes a little while back.

30:23.00
youcantcompthis
Look It's It's a tough.

30:29.67
youcantcompthis
If you get waved from the worst team in the league. Where do you go to next particularly when you're you know that hive look can I old jokes aside that's actually the stuff that Washington needs to be doing. They need to be taking fliers on you know, young kids.

30:35.83
Adz
Washington oh wait what now? Um, yeah I I feel like it.

30:45.47
Adz
Do they wave Jordan full.

30:52.51
Adz
That that.

30:52.89
youcantcompthis
So look even if they waved Jordan pool and picked up Killian Hayes I'm not so sure that would actually fix the stink per se so all right I think if if we can do this. Let let's give this a go. So I think we should talk about.

31:06.14
Adz
Ah, goodness. Oh.

31:12.65
youcantcompthis
Charlotte hornets because I think for me this is they're being the big you know movers and shakers. This.

31:15.73
Adz
Are they the biggest winner or the biggest loser in the trade deadline or are they just they just shaping things correctly.

31:21.25
youcantcompthis
Like look I I actually I don't think it's fair to call them a winner because I think if you're you know that bad and you're trying to blow it up. You know it's not particularly a good thing but I also think too you need to give them respect for like you know making decision and going to it so they traded away Pj Washington which I'm probably like a little bit surprised on this.

31:35.66
Adz
Yeah.

31:39.85
youcantcompthis
They did get back. Grant Williams Seth Curry and a first round pick. So I think in terms of trading away in asset and getting assets back I think they definitely you know, succeeded in that they also got future to ah draft equity which I think is really important I think the best player in this deal though is pj washington hobby wise. This is for me. There's only really 2 people out of all of the trades today that I think you need to keep an eye and pj washington is one of them I think in terms of his value at the moment which frankly you can pick up his silver tens for you know, sub $50 want be guessing off the top of my head I think.

32:13.81
Adz
And yep.

32:17.62
youcantcompthis
You know that's totally fine to you know, have a bit of a dabble on this guy if the Dallas Mavericks make the playoffs and he's playing as well as he could like he's a skilled big guy I think he'll fit really well with Luca because so Lucas already got.

32:32.83
Adz
I'm bringing the stats up right now.

32:37.51
youcantcompthis
Lively to play with in terms of a rim rolling big. They've also just picked up gaffford that was another trade that the Mavericks picked up today. So I think they've got enough bigs around him which lets pj do pj stuff which is shooting he can dribble the ball a little bit he can play.

32:52.61
Adz
Ah.

32:56.82
youcantcompthis
Pick and roll a little bit and basically just play off these guys I think he's going to fit into this team really well I like it a lot I think defensively is going to probably be where you know it's going to be problematic but you know I think you can leave that conversation for another day. So pj washington Gordon Haywood

32:58.17
Adz
Oh.

33:08.45
Adz
Yeah.

33:15.81
youcantcompthis
We've already previously spoke about Terry Rosier they then waved James booknight today 2 which was ah a little bit of a story that went under the the radar to be honest, someone texted me today to talk to me about this and you know I I hadn't you know, picked it up at all. So I think for me where this is a little bit tricky or where I don't like this is that he was the number 11

33:21.59
Adz
Yeah.

33:34.49
Adz
Yeah.

33:34.72
youcantcompthis
Pick not that long ago keeping in mind that they also drafted. No let me rephrase that they acquired Kai Jones on a draft day trade and they've also waived him so you could effectively say they've thrown away 2 first round draft picks.

33:45.29
Adz
Yep. Yeah, true.

33:50.40
youcantcompthis
If you want to be picky about it. You could say three because we're talking about now Pj Washington and bridges has been an absolute head case. You could almost say four and I think for me, that's very you know that's very wasteful. It's very frustrating. So let's take 2 seconds now just to quickly look at the depth chart.

34:00.86
Adz
Um, ah.

34:08.41
youcantcompthis
My love for these depth charts is going to come through on this episode lamalow ball Brandon Miller bridges Grant Williams and Nick Richards is going to be their starters look that's I'm fine with that I think if I'm nitpicking a little bit I'd like to see Nick Smith Junior who was their drive pick last year be put into the starting lineup.

34:08.44
Adz
Oh I feel like Russell's got a new obsession.

34:27.79
youcantcompthis
Push bridges to the 4 push Grant Williams to the 5 I think that will be a fun. You know, run and gun team look at their second unit though Seth Curry Cody Martin leaky black I mean this is getting bad in the second unit Nathan Menza the third unit for silly me Mey. Bryce Mcgowan's they've got they' got miles bridges and Grant Williams there obviously they're talking about you know rotation pieces then you've got tray man who they picked up from o kc I'm actually surprised Treyman isn't maybe in the third unit. But okay, that's fine.

34:59.61
Adz
Yeah, it's It's actually very very weird. Interesting.

35:04.25
youcantcompthis
It's bad. It's bad isn't it right? JTThor is in the fourth unit and then that's it for the fifth units all the same so look I think depth is gonna be a problem for this team. We know lamalo ball is out look probably for the rest of the year I don't think they're gonna be rushing this kid back. Not for this team.

35:15.92
Adz
Yeah, they're not rushing in back anytime soon. Seth Curry and Grant Williams are both day to day like I don't know.

35:22.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so look I think for me the hobby action here is Brandon Miller I think you have to keep an eye on this kid. Yeah miles and miles bridges is the other one I think you know and then I think for a deep cut you look at Nick Smith and

35:31.13
Adz
He's going to get a lot of opportunity like a lot of opportunity.

35:41.63
youcantcompthis
I think Nick Smith is sort of you know, like a bit of a prospect look I think he's got size. He's got the shooting numbers there look I think he's probably got enough to be an okay defensive player. Maybe even above average. But you know so that's my that's my 2 hobby takeaway. So if you want to turn off the podcast now because you you're not going to get you minute.

35:44.89
Adz
Ah.

35:51.86
Adz
Yep.

36:00.75
youcantcompthis
Like really any more hobby tips. Yeah, it's pj Washington for me and Nick S Smith are the other the ones I'll be yeah yeah, just 1 more thing about Charlotte sorry sorry the other reason why I want to talk about the hornet. So is I want to go through their draft equity because.

36:05.81
Adz
Yeah, is there is there anything else that happened at the trade deadline that we that we missed. Oh we're still on the hornets.

36:18.58
Adz
Oh did they trade for anything.

36:20.22
youcantcompthis
I think if you're bottoming out this bad right? You need to know where your draft picks are so so this year's Draft Pick. they owe to the spurs but it's protected 1 to 14 so they're going to be bad. They're going to keep that pick right now this is where it gets really good though. So basically until 2030 they've got their own picks.

36:29.90
Adz
They indicate that 1

36:37.59
Adz
Did I have extra picks. Okay, oh.

36:39.34
youcantcompthis
So round one. They've got a few extra picks. Yeah, so they've got a pick from Boston second round pick in 24 they've got a second round in 2027 from Portland or the pelicans a second from the clippers in Twenty Eight second

36:52.24
Adz
Ah, you.

36:55.15
Adz
Do that? Do they have any first round picks extra ones or so well I mean they don't have any assets. How do you? How do you acquire first round picks trading assets and they didn't really yeah.

36:56.44
youcantcompthis
And that's it sorry I'll lie. No no extra first. But.

37:06.31
youcantcompthis
So they did get a pick today from Dallas that isn't in this list. It just hasn't been updated yet. So I think it's just a straight up first round pick. Yeah so I look I think if you're a hornets fan.

37:13.13
Adz
This is a pick swap or a on our to to 2027 first round pick. yeah yeah I can see that.

37:25.17
youcantcompthis
You know I don't want to you know, beat down you guys because I look you do have something to be optimistic about they're blown this up. They've put their you know line in the sand they're building around Lamelo and Brenda Miller Bridges I'm okay with that. That's 3 you know pretty decent pieces. They've got all their draft picks moving forward.

37:28.79
Adz
And 2 enough.

37:41.94
youcantcompthis
Plus an extra one. You know it's okay I think it's going to be okay to be a hornets fan. They're not the Washington wizards they're not the Houston rockets of last year and and look I was very very critical of them last year and you can see what twelve months makes you know? yeah.

37:42.11
Adz
Yeah, was that they're not going backwards but just yeah, um.

37:53.91
Adz
Yeah, near truth true.

37:57.49
youcantcompthis
All right? Let's let's smash through the rest of these trades ed.

38:02.20
Adz
I'm trying to see if there's anything that really catches my eye all right.

38:03.56
youcantcompthis
Us is going to go to the top and just go through the whole lot paces receive Cory Joseph a second round pick and cash the worries receive a second round pick Cory Joseph in a second separate report is going to be waived so he'll come out.

38:18.17
Adz
I feel like next week's oh actually next week's all star week but like the waivers episode is going to be the interesting one.

38:24.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, cttics received Jaden spring up 76 is get a second round pick that to me is just a straight celary dump in a separate move the celltics receive a second round pick and the blazers get a danil Lo Banton look actually I like that kid.

38:35.66
Adz
Gip.

38:43.86
Adz
Oh.

38:44.72
youcantcompthis
I think in terms of hobby though. Geez that's a really deep cut and I don't see him doing a lot there at all the Kings get Robin Lopez and cash the bucks get the draft rights to demetrios agavanus and lopez has been waived already I'm pretty sure. So yeah.

38:48.58
Adz
Yeah.

38:59.53
Adz
Nice so we got Robyn Lopez in the free agent pool.

39:03.85
youcantcompthis
The griaslies have waved Ola Depot that was a separate thing now. This is the the complicated trade the sixes get buddy healed the paces get ferk and corkmaz Doug Mcdermott a second round pick another second round pick and some cash the spurs get Marcus Morris ah

39:06.74
Adz
Yeah.

39:21.74
youcantcompthis
Second round pick and some cash so look this buddy heeled thing is to me very Daryl Morey he loves tinkering with his roster he loves getting you know, just assets the thing about buddy those he is that like an elite elite 3 point shooter and again we know what Darrel values is.

39:24.71
Adz
Um, ah.

39:32.87
Adz
It's.

39:40.59
youcantcompthis
Three point shots shots in the restricted like at the basket and freefro. So obviously he ticks off the three point look I think someone look mb's injured at the moment. But I think having shooting around a big like Mbi is never a terrible thing i.

39:40.84
Adz
Ah.

39:49.59
Adz
Um, yeah.

39:55.30
Adz
The plan that is mb's going to be back before the end of the season right? So that this the six s can make a run. Yeah, he's not going to get win the Mvp because hen't played enough games but he will be back.

40:00.62
youcantcompthis
You would you hope. I have a funny buddy heeled anecdote actually when I was in Chicago the paces came to town and I had okay seats but I was down the end I was behind the backboard and I think I was in say wrote.

40:18.53
Adz
Oh.

40:24.50
youcantcompthis
H so I wasn't like court side but I was also not that far away that I could still hear some of the chatter buddy heard was like yapping to the referees and I heard it vividly Rick Carla yelling at him basically just to shut up and like sit down before he got a tech.

40:24.25
Adz
Yeah.

40:43.38
Adz
Ah, this is gonna go down like a lead balloon. Well done Philly you found a way to screw it again.

40:45.31
youcantcompthis
So no, no, no so my buddy he'll take here is that you know sometimes teams want a ah ac chore plays but they also want to get rid of players I actually wonder if he just grinds Carlos guies and it's like I'll be very happy that this dude is gone.

40:58.89
Adz
Really it did they did they not just upgrade Patrick Beverley just another yappy one that can actually shoot.

41:01.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah, seriously it was.

41:09.61
youcantcompthis
I Don't know I I look I couldn't get that thought out of my head after I saw him get traded I was like it's just it's very rare for a coach to say to a play basically to like sit down and shut up. Yeah.

41:20.70
Adz
Shut up. Yeah true true true I don't know buddy Heel's been on the block for like he's been in trade rumors for the better part of 3 seasons.

41:30.60
youcantcompthis
Um, he was traded to the paces not that longer I look I actually hadn't heard a bunch of trade rooms for him I was a little bit surprised by that actually particularly with the the way the paces play. Yeah.

41:38.46
Adz
Um, well he was last year. It was all about going to the lakers with turner and.

41:44.17
youcantcompthis
Those rumors with the lakers though man are created by Lakers fans. You can't actually believe that crap. No, they're not like the bucks get Patrick Beverley and the 76 s get campaign look this for me is just.

41:49.52
Adz
We're involved they they're created by the clippers to unsettle Lakers fans.

42:01.60
youcantcompthis
You know, shifting around deck chairs look I'm a bit surprised that beverly was given up on because again like that's Darryl's boy you know so I think so the sons yeah, probably.

42:09.26
Adz
Is it though think James Harden's got some things about say about that.

42:19.29
youcantcompthis
The sons receive Royce O'neill and David Roddey the grizzlies receive a first round pick swap schmitzi metu and Utah what an arbi so I'm super surprised about that actually because like I know Kd loves uter.

42:25.24
Adz
Yep.

42:32.95
Adz
Earth.

42:34.88
youcantcompthis
And he's been shooting the absolute lights out this year. So I'm I'm a little bit surprised by that in saying that Ross O'neill is a 3 and d go so you know I think that does actually probably improve their roster the David Roddey thing where you're at with Roddey though. Do you think you'll make their rotation.

42:42.88
Adz
Yep.

42:50.99
Adz
I Don't think so they might try him out. They might try him out because at this time of the season. There's a lot of I think with the injuries maybe are they though.

42:53.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah I Just think I.

43:01.28
youcantcompthis
Injury The Suns are so deep man I Just to be honest I like their depth like yeah sure I like.

43:07.42
Adz
1 bad week and nobody's playing I don't know I but you're they're you're probably right? They're probably trying to work out their final 8 to 10 to run into the the postseason with. And yeah, maybe Roddy's not there. But. Think Royce O'neil's definitely on the um on the radar that.

43:28.00
youcantcompthis
Then the nets received this is all part of the same trade ker bates Diop Jordan Goodwin draft rights to Avenger Marin kovik and 3 second round picks. So I think really the nets here are just getting more future assets really aren't they look I think Cater Bates do op I don't really see.

43:44.51
Adz
Yep.

43:47.74
youcantcompthis
Much play or hobby value for him. Jordan Goodwin look

43:51.48
Adz
No, no, we we be we scraping the barrel at the moment I think this is true. But.

43:54.14
youcantcompthis
These are really deep cuts here aren't they pistons are gonna buy out veteran swingman Joe Harris so look someone else I'm sure will be linked to the lakers.

44:08.35
Adz
Well, it's gonna be interesting with all the um.

44:09.10
youcantcompthis
And this is the one I think you're going to froff over the most so the nets receive denni schrewder and Thad young and the raptors receive spencer dinwitdy so after that we found an independent report that dinwitdy's going to be bought out the the premise for that is that. He's played 48 games this season once he gets to 50 games. He'll get a one point five million dollars bonus so the raptors wave eighteen and a half look I suppose if you can save it associate if you can save it. You save it and and also to like being pragmatic.

44:33.58
Adz
What's his contract worth per year. Yeah, so they're worried about one point five million they're paying the guy eighteen and a half he plays more than 50 games.

44:46.85
youcantcompthis
I'm not so sure the raptors are trying to win this year so maybe that helps their plight too and I don't look I actually don't mind a bit of celerary dumping to be perfectly honest, but yeah, it does seem a bit tight doesn't it so look. He's going to be waved. So I think this is where I think we we talk to you and your lake of fandom.

44:50.66
Adz
Yeah.

45:00.45
Adz
It's I don't know.

45:05.53
youcantcompthis
Do you think the lakers will try and get dinwitty. Yeah.

45:07.64
Adz
The stories have already started like the lakers the clippers anyone in championship contention people trying to top up off Waivers This is a really good place to get quality players without having to give up assets is the waivers. Um.

45:21.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

45:25.52
Adz
And I think once vanderbilt went down for the lakers and D'angelo Russell started making himself untradable because what I will say watch this space with D'angelo who'll start playing like trash now. Um that the waivers is the the best way to pick up.

45:43.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure, do you think you've.

45:44.22
Adz
Other assets. Do you know I mean like and sign them for a little bit I think Jiwidy is going to be on their radar from from the word. Go.

45:49.66
youcantcompthis
Do you think you'll feed in with their team and do you think that he'll fit in with Lebron I think that's the real question.

45:57.12
Adz
I think it will be a very good fit with with Lebron. It's um, yeah, we need that we we need a point guard. We we need someone to run the second unit that isn't lebron James apparently.

45:59.20
youcantcompthis
Okay, okay.

46:04.68
youcantcompthis
Okay.

46:12.51
Adz
Gabe Vincent's decided. He doesn't want to play basketball. He just get his $10000000 and stay injured I know I know I know I'm I'm just salty that every time they pay.

46:14.89
youcantcompthis
I mean to be fair to that look I actually think I actually think they want gabe they want Gabe Vincent out there I think he's just you know, mortally wounded the poor guy you know.

46:25.51
Adz
Yeah, yeah, it just seems like 1 of those you spend more than $10000000 on a player then all of a sudden they're just they never take the court so you never get to see them fit in with the unit and it's sort of a waste of an asset. It's it's really frustrating, especially with this salary cap going.

46:35.52
youcantcompthis
Like yeah, ah.

46:43.85
Adz
You've invested in a player in the offseason. You're really excited about it. You never get to see it eventuate on the court because he's either rushing keeps getting setbacks. Whatever it is but you need to to move forward and plug that hole right? and offwaivers getting dinwiddy who's.

46:57.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah, totally totally.

47:03.12
Adz
As we've just said contract is worth eighteen, sounds like an upgrade. So I'd like to say yeah, it'd be very very interesting I mean they could wave Schroeder as well and we can get the band back together.

47:06.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

47:20.60
youcantcompthis
Mavericks get Daniel Gaffford and the wizards get rushard holmes and a second round pick so look I really like Gaffford I like him a lot I think he's a skilled big guy I think he can. He's got enough touch around the basket that he you know he can put the ball in the hole I think defensively look. He's not amazing, but at the same time he he'll get enough stops and I think rebounding wise he's pretty good look I think where he's going to probably be the biggest beneficiary though is his playing with Kyri and playing with of course Luca.

47:41.81
Adz
Oh oh.

47:50.40
Adz
Cho.

47:52.94
youcantcompthis
And the really interesting one for me is is Holmes because he was literally poached away from the kings. So the maps have you know, got this guy got they got their man and then they've given up on him but the other way you could look at it is they got their guy but then they got a better one because.

47:57.18
Adz
Oh.

48:07.51
Adz
No.

48:09.62
youcantcompthis
They traded with a team who's just you know complete knucklehead so look I've actually got a pretty I bought a really big Daniel Gafferd lot and you know look I'm I'm definitely not going to flip it to make money out of it I've definitely you know lost cash on it. That's totally fine, but.

48:12.71
Adz
Pretty bad. They're actually pretty bad.

48:27.86
youcantcompthis
Look I think there is something there with this guy so you know very again, very low-key. Yeah oh that is another deep cut we might as well call this episode the deep cut symphony.

48:28.64
Adz
Yeah, probably very deep cut fit from from.

48:41.70
Adz
Russell's black friday deals.

48:46.91
youcantcompthis
Pistons get Daniel House a second round pick and cash considerations. The seventy six s get a second round pick again. Darl's you know trading his boy away look that's just ah, that's just the stelary dump fantasy a hobbywise with Daniel House there's not much going on there.

48:54.88
Adz
Um, of course.

49:02.13
youcantcompthis
Right? This one does get me a little bit excited. Actually the raptors get kellyli oennik and ocha barge I actually really like abaja I think he can defend I think his athleticism is elite like honestly I would put him in Jaylen Johnson

49:13.79
Adz
It's a weird. This is a weird trade.

49:21.10
Adz
Oh.

49:21.79
youcantcompthis
Type athleticism and I think that in terms of his size and his skill There's enough there to you know, take a dip on the other thing I really like about this too. This is like a very raptors playing into the future where everyone's playing positionless basketball like just. Put him down on that list of you know that positionless basketball sort of thing I think he's going to fit into that team really? Well I think he and scottie barnes playing together is going to be kind of cool because I think they'll fill in each other's sort of you know, strengths and weaknesses particularly what I'm really saying here is Scotty Barnes is going to make up for oj's weaknesses. So.

49:56.65
Adz
Be interesting.

49:57.16
youcantcompthis
I like this a lot the jazz the jazz get auto porter junior who's you know a 3 and d veteran I don't think he's going to move the needle anything you know, obviously hear what they're prospecting on is Kira Lewis who's had horrendous injuries to start his career. He's had a lot of bad luck I'm kind of glad he's getting a fresh start.

50:04.32
Adz
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:14.53
youcantcompthis
And then of course the jazz get another first round pick. So I think at the end of the day. The jazz didn't care they like we want to get rid of these 2 guys who do you want from us. Okay, that's fine was those we get a pick that's fine. You know we' got a deal I think that's you know, literally as as much as it went. Oh absolutely yeah.

50:18.64
Adz
Yeah.

50:26.60
Adz
Um, sounds very Danny age. Yeah yeah, very much.

50:32.20
youcantcompthis
I think we should do the last 2 and then we've pretty much covered everything. Yeah, the wolves got Monte Morris the pistons got Troy Brown and Shake Milton and a second round pick look.

50:34.52
Adz
Okay, wherever it got.

50:48.50
youcantcompthis
I think the best player out of this deal is probably Monte Morris that actually hurts my like card collecting ego to say it I've always had a really soft spot for shake Milton I think in an alter universe I think he could have a different career I think he's got a lot of skill. But yeah, he's just never quite made it so bit of a shame.

50:59.33
Adz
Ah.

51:04.98
Adz
Um, yeah.

51:07.48
youcantcompthis
Again, the classic, the good team gets better. So the celttics get Xavier Tillman who is a very serviceable veteran that's ready to play today I think this is the move that a good team makes to make their team slightly better around the edges they gave up Lamas Stevens

51:19.14
Adz
Um, yep.

51:27.12
youcantcompthis
And 2 second round picks that you know will probably turn out to be nothing look I do get sometimes when I actually heard about this trade I was kind of angry. Not angry is not the right word but just like frustrated I'm like it's this a good team getting better again. But then my other sort of thought too is you can't actually criticize these teams because they are trying to get better.

51:37.70
Adz
Yep, yeah.

51:44.10
Adz
Yeah, so I was gonna ask about that and like how do you feel about so Boston have done this to to acquire Tillman and they've used assets versus.

51:45.83
youcantcompthis
And they're giving up assets to get you know what? I mean like you can't sort of have it both ways like yeah.

51:55.93
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, what? yeah.

52:01.17
Adz
Waiting till the waivers are cleared and then grabbing players ah correct correct. But you know what I mean are they looking for a quality player off Waivers or do they want a better quality player. So.

52:03.65
youcantcompthis
I would suspect someone like Tillman wouldn't have been waived. He's not that old.

52:15.93
youcantcompthis
I would actually say in the specific instance of the celltics what you're talking about I actually think they're big pieces of field like what they what they need is is stuff around. You know they need plays for 131415 in my mind when I look at that roster.

52:22.50
Adz
Um, yeah, of course of course.

52:36.10
youcantcompthis
They're very deep. They're very skilled. They've got athletes at most positions. They've got your boy Derek White who's you know, just literally setting the world on fire at the moment.

52:42.84
Adz
And tearing it up is check in on his prices at some point see if he's past ten bucks Jordan pool Thousand dollars sold no

52:54.10
youcantcompthis
But yeah, look. Ah yeah, so look you know that's where I'm at with that? Yeah, ah last trade and then we've done them all at we've done really? Well, we're after 53 minutes this is fantastic for us.

53:07.13
Adz
We've done well.

53:09.19
youcantcompthis
Pistons receive simone fonti oh god this this is just too hard this one and the jazz get Kevin Knox a second round pick and Gabrielle Proceeda so look. This is probably the only move out of all of this I can actually complement the pistons on they've actually gone out and got you know a good young prospect. They can actually you know develop into something I think the sad story for me though is Kevin Knox and all this this guy just being passed around like a bag of chips when he first came out of college.

53:30.41
Adz
It is positive.

53:42.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he was that he was drafted by the knicks. You know people were buying this guy. You know we talk about money being lost on zion you know and no one talks about the money that was lost on Kevin Knox you know look yeah, there's still a slither in my head where I'm like it's a bit like shake Milton for me.

53:42.25
Adz
Um.

53:51.48
Adz
The jets crackers of the Nba.

54:01.35
youcantcompthis
Guys got the Nba tools. He's actually like a 3 n d kid you know why didn't he ever pan out. You know I think there's some guys just never quite pan out look I can't imagine he's going to go to this team and have a career resurgence but crazier things have happened. Yeah.

54:01.97
Adz
Ah, earth.

54:13.35
Adz
No, but you mean he might have a good yeah like him. Well you think about it. There's hang on hang on hang on what's happened at the jazz recently do you know what? I mean like lowery market and career resurgence like Clarkson.

54:20.21
youcantcompthis
He could get waved.

54:29.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah, like yeah yeah, they've they've given guys opportunity when opportunity wasn't there previously hundred percent yeah so yeah, definitely all righty I've got 3 more things in the run sheett for us to quickly go through.

54:33.18
Adz
Just it's yeah so I mean there's a possibility.

54:44.93
Adz
Brilliant.

54:47.81
youcantcompthis
Ah, this is running on from last week trying to find kabooms for under 250 aud I'm so no, nothing still dust blowing down the road man. That's it that section's over all right? I'm gonna get.

54:53.36
Adz
Um, did someone find 1 Ah oh it none is that it we're just gonna could we check on this regularly.

55:05.64
youcantcompthis
A lot of mileage out of this joked mate this is going to go on for years episode 25250 the lebron James Bronnie James super factorctor 1 of 1 jewel autograph has been pulled the good news.

55:10.43
Adz
Um, show she can bo two hundred and fifty dollars

55:19.37
Adz
That of.

55:25.49
youcantcompthis
Heart warming endorphin rushing story about this though was it wasn't pulled by Backyard brakes. It was pulled by a gentleman that honestly looks like a very mums and pops like card shop. It's called.

55:32.10
Adz
Oh okay, yep front yard breaks.

55:43.28
youcantcompthis
Jim and Steve Sports Cards he kind of looks like a middle-aged guy like us ad just like froffing over this you know card.

55:49.60
Adz
Did he did He know what it was did you imagine like you be you like it's up. Is it a pokemon card. No, it's a basketball card.

55:56.55
youcantcompthis
Can I be honest you with this guy I reckon he's worked in this. He's owned and worked this card shop for the last forty five years I'm I am certain he knows what's up I'll share this onto our socials because I think this is like a very um.

56:01.11
Adz
Really, It's pretty cool that he's the one that pulled it then.

56:13.29
youcantcompthis
Ah, very good hobby moment I think that's the best way to say it and add I think we should close the show with this one. This is from you a card ladder comparison Nicola Yokick bgs 9.5 select gold number to 10

56:14.47
Adz
Yeah.

56:21.74
Adz
Yes.

56:31.22
youcantcompthis
Die cut rookie card last sold for ten thousand four hundred and ninety two dollars exactly card ladder valued it at 10832 versus the lebron James Refractor rookie card

56:31.57
Adz
Was an interesting one wasn't it.

56:43.70
Adz
Aha.

56:48.70
Adz
Yes.

56:50.20
youcantcompthis
Bgs Nine point five last sold for 11590 card ladder values at it Nine Thousand two hundred and fifty one I will leave this as an open floor discussion for you ad.

56:52.89
Adz
Oh.

57:04.31
Adz
Um, look it's the the gold is number to 10 right? I'm taking a number to 10 card over actually I want to know the pop count on the Lebron.

57:11.47
youcantcompthis
Know yeah.

57:18.55
youcantcompthis
I think we should start at the popcan and Lebron and I think you've said the right thing in terms of popco or that look I think if I'm being brutally honest to you. Let's just put the population aside for a second. The fact that a die cut sold for ten thousand usd to me is like. That is the part that's blowing my mind the most because well most die cards don't sell for 50% of a regular card.

57:36.60
Adz
Really.

57:43.27
Adz
They also don't get the 9.5 grading because there's so a die cut for those playing at home. Um, there's so many there's more corners. So it's a lot harder to gem a card like this.

57:56.17
youcantcompthis
What? yeah.

57:58.88
Adz
So a card like this doesn't gem because looking at this yoitch you've got a top bottom or ah, both considered corners. The the the you've got another 4 or 2 in each corner. So that's 8 corners 10 corners. So.

58:12.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah I mean putting them putting the maths like the side this just a lot more corners to like to to great and to damage. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

58:20.23
Adz
They they get damaged easily. They're criticized the shape of the card is is scrutinized so much more um versus a normal rectangular card. So the fact that this sold for this price are right is amazing because it's they don't grade higher like this.

58:34.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so the pop on the bgs 9.5 is 46 but that isn't you know this is really Ryan's pledge at the moment isn't where he's trying to look at total populations for card. Not just like you know a single population so look the true pop for this. Refractor is it could be thousands like yeah.

58:59.42
Adz
I'm yeah I'm looking at the lebron and the bgs 9.5 has got a pop count of 442 the psa 10 has got one seventy seven and the black has got a pop count of 4 Yeah.

59:04.83
youcantcompthis
Um, yep, yep yeah, Wow Does it really? yeah right.

59:14.40
Adz
Ps a 9 has 377 so there's ah, there's a few out there.

59:19.34
youcantcompthis
So just on those that you listed is close to a thousand so to say that there's 2000 I think is not that's not outrageous. Yeah so look I think this actually really just comes back to conversation. We're having last week wasn't it I think this is.

59:24.10
Adz
Correct not low, not low. Yeah pay. Yeah.

59:38.95
youcantcompthis
This is a ah price based on pop and you know not too much more about it I.

59:42.10
Adz
Well I also think with Lebron the the se like the we're not goingnna get crazy spikes out of Lebron like this is a steady burn now like you can't tell me that Lebron's career is going to evolve any much further than I mean he wins another championship maybe but. It's year twenty one we know we know what Lebron's done yokitch is what 1516 so he's not even 10 years into his career.

01:00:12.21
youcantcompthis
Look I think the person who paid that much for it when I say that I'm talking about the the yoki card right now I think they've got serious cannoees here like that is not a riskre purchase where is a bgs nine point. 5

01:00:29.90
Adz
Lebron's not going down. Yeah agree agree completely.

01:00:31.14
youcantcompthis
You Know't I mean I feel like if I mean in sports cards is there a safer card to buy because morning enough.

01:00:37.48
Adz
All right? So year 10 lebron are you buying a numbered lebron for like a crazy price thinking Lebron's gonna be 1 of the greatest players of all time and go and go. Yeah.

01:00:47.16
youcantcompthis
I personally think the refractor is safer than a Jordan Rookie just for the fact of like how many Jordan rookies are how many faked ones there are like John to me like for me, that's just so difficult to navigate in my head like I really maybe if you said to me a Steph Curry or

01:00:55.68
Adz
Rarity. Sure sure.

01:01:07.10
youcantcompthis
Ah, stiff Curry Rookie was safer than a lebron. Oh probably.

01:01:12.63
Adz
So yoke I'll go I'll go ah back across to yokage though. This card is a rookie card and it's number to 10 There is a chance now unless s g winsy's first mv mvp.

01:01:15.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, so ah.

01:01:28.93
Adz
That Nicola Yokitch wins his third Mvp this season that potentially is a two- time Mba champion with 3 mvps and he is 8 or nine years into his career that number to 10 card. How many people have won three mvps.

01:01:38.13
youcantcompthis
Yup annois.

01:01:47.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

01:01:47.90
Adz
Like we're talking a leak company I think a numbered card of that magnitude like that could this could be a 6 figure card in if yokitch is a 3 time champion.

01:02:00.81
youcantcompthis
I Think where I'm getting caught up in my head though is the it's select. So it's not prism and not only is it not prism. It's also a die cut. So if we're so.

01:02:14.37
Adz
Who's comparable. How do you compare a die cut like this Oo interesting I think a high graded diecar is incredible. But.

01:02:18.15
youcantcompthis
Look in my head. It's almost 50% less but I really.

01:02:28.10
Adz
All right.

01:02:29.82
youcantcompthis
And look so you can turn that around you can say okay fine. So then his straight rookie card will be 20 grand and look ah maybe that's okay.

01:02:39.55
Adz
I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be gs 9 playing 5 stuff it oh way? Um, but for those playing at home and not watching because Russell is not watching my scream I'm bringing up Luca I should bring up the select actually. It's I'm not playing fair I'm not playing fake. We get a select a select Luka select Luke is not even on the.

01:03:09.69
Adz
The front page. Oh gee selected really? Um, oh there we go? No no, we've got concourse base.

01:03:14.68
youcantcompthis
You might need to go to one thirty point maybe

01:03:30.32
Adz
Courtside tie die number to 25 I'm try I was trying to find a a um die cut. Oh premium level based die cut.

01:03:33.50
youcantcompthis
What you want? yep.

01:03:39.19
youcantcompthis
No, that sure. Okay, okay, like.

01:03:44.77
Adz
Die cut to two forty nine cells for so last sold for hasn't been sold since August Twenty Twenty last sold for 1750

01:03:57.20
youcantcompthis
It sold in 202020 for 1750

01:03:57.97
Adz
Not not psa ten sold the two forty Nine I'm trying to find a lower numbered die cut. Yeah, okay so the the bgs nine point five of the number to 25 select

01:04:04.87
youcantcompthis
The problem with that a little bit though too is the time that it sold right? That's like sort of crazy times. Yeah, yeah.

01:04:16.31
youcantcompthis
Yes, yeah.

01:04:17.68
Adz
Luka 13000 in October last twenty twenty two I just think the low numbering on it makes it incredibly valuable I don't know how to compet though.

01:04:30.11
youcantcompthis
Yes.

01:04:37.37
Adz
Because you're right? The tie eye is very sorry the the die cut is very different. Yeah.

01:04:40.43
youcantcompthis
Look I think that's just my initial thought. So I think now that you've you've passed that out a bit more that actually makes a bit more sense and I think fundamentally a rare card is a rare card and that is a rare card and you know that that's the end of the conversation right? so.

01:04:54.23
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:04:57.90
youcantcompthis
While you were talking about that I was I just pulled up Yoki's gold to 10 his prism rookie PA 10 okay so this hasn't sold for 3 years so this is going to be a little bit of a difficult conversation but it last sold for 12000 so in my very.

01:05:02.41
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:08.21
Adz
Show.

01:05:13.66
Adz
Oh.

01:05:16.72
youcantcompthis
Rough estimates I would say that's at least doubled so let's let's call it. Let's call it 24000 right so maybe this person who bought this card was like look I can't afford this for 24 what is the best card that I can get in that 10 to 12 sort of range and maybe they'll like.

01:05:18.96
Adz
At least if not yeah yeah, yeah.

01:05:35.18
youcantcompthis
This is the rarest card that I can get that's gold high graded you know for him. So I think when you're using that type of rationale that I completely just fabricated in my head.

01:05:35.55
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:05:45.88
Adz
But it's all this is all hypothetical right? Like we're we're trying to trying to crystal ball predict the future like with.

01:05:53.46
youcantcompthis
Ah, for sure. Yeah, okay, so so let's okay, let's stick with that crystal ball. So that 10 of the yoke is that going up or down in the next ten years okay and the lebron refractor is that going up or down in the next ten years yeah right

01:06:00.71
Adz
Up. Up I think they're both going up. But what I'm saying is the the yokitch goes up on a very very very high spike trajectory whereas the lebrons the slow burn the the asset that just slowly.

01:06:20.17
youcantcompthis
Like yeah you have to.

01:06:25.58
Adz
Increases by your steady 5 to 8% you know what I mean whereas every time this yokage goes up it doubles. Do you not I mean and then it doubles again because there's only 10 of them and in the nine point five. You're not going to get a high population count.

01:06:26.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah, right.

01:06:40.52
youcantcompthis
You don't worry about select sort of being the ugly sister or you know the the set that's not as popular or something like this.

01:06:46.78
Adz
the the I still think it's a a low a very low number count rookie card. Do you know what? I mean like I still reckon golden would market the living but Jesus out of it.

01:07:02.74
youcantcompthis
Put off some ads at times squared je an ad.

01:07:05.70
Adz
Something like that depending this is depending on Obviously the man's career like if if this is all he's ever achieved and then you're right? Maybe it only slowly goes up. Maybe it doesn't go off a lot but I don't think it goes down and I think like I don't see yokage's trajectory being. He's done I feel like.

01:07:15.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:21.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

01:07:25.54
Adz
Yokish might make history this year with his third Mvp and that puts him into a very elite company and I just think that means that and look we'll call. We'll call the lebron what it is. It's a silver. It's a silver prism right.

01:07:42.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, sure that's cool.

01:07:43.60
Adz
The equivalent thereof right? sure in in 15 years the yokitch silver prism might be worth the same as that Lebron was now if that makes sense. But I think you you add the extra history of.

01:07:55.30
youcantcompthis
Now. Yeah.

01:08:02.33
Adz
What yokage could potentially achieve and the ceiling he gets to the low number just if it's a it's a positive trajectory for his career. The increase in value is is more of a spike because of the low number.

01:08:17.10
youcantcompthis
1 yeah.

01:08:20.30
Adz
You imagine like hundreds of people trying to accumulate yokitch rookies. It doesn't matter what set it is at this point if it's the number to 5 10 or one of ones their elite company.

01:08:32.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:35.39
Adz
That in my eyes of course like as I said we're all crystal balling and.

01:08:38.90
youcantcompthis
No, definitely so I feel like I don't even really need to ask you this question so who would you which card would you prefer out of these 2 Yeah see I think I would go for the lebron because I wonder if as fluid and as liquid as Jordan has been.

01:08:44.82
Adz
I Take the yoke it chair.

01:08:56.92
youcantcompthis
Us the last you know 1015 years is lebron give me that next fluid guy where it doesn't matter what you've got off heres it will just be bought and sold and traded. You know every couple of days on ebay and goldens and all the rest of it and and at the end of the day you know it is a bit of a popularity contest.

01:09:00.43
Adz
Um, a grade.

01:09:14.58
Adz
It is.

01:09:16.66
youcantcompthis
And Lebron is Lebron and I think for me where I'm probably leading with this is this is I just feel in my in my mind this is the lebron is a much safer pick whereas I feel like the yoke I think everything you've said.

01:09:33.42
Adz
Ah.

01:09:35.52
youcantcompthis
Actually don't have a problem with it like particularly you know we just had this huge conversation last week about population and I feel like that's definitely hanging with me but it's still select and it's still a die cut and I I just I can't get that sort of that sort of rolling momentum. Out of my head. You know what? I mean I think that's sort of a big you know, sort of thing to jump over but you know I think then the next question you sort of ask yourself. Okay, so this person paid ten and a half for it. So okay, what should they have really paid for it. You know, look maybe.

01:10:03.62
Adz
Ah.

01:10:10.14
youcantcompthis
That's actually the right price you know? And yeah I Just think I Just think that that card needs someone very particular to purchase it whereas I think the lebron you'll be able to sell this you send it into Golden this week and then.

01:10:10.50
Adz
Yeah, it's it that that's a good. Yeah, that's a very good response. Yeah.

01:10:23.25
Adz
For sure for sure. Oh golden will transfer the money now with a guarantee you know what I mean like I have no doubts agreed agreed don't don't doubt that for a second.

01:10:26.57
youcantcompthis
The next week. The cash is in your account. You know I think that's done you know? Yeah yeah, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah that that Lebron refractor is like yeah liquid liquid gold. Yeah.

01:10:42.22
Adz
Yeah, and and that's a thing like as you I've said I'm not saying Lebron's going to go down. It's actually that steady steady growth. It's the guaranteed asset. But I think I I have a feeling that the way yoitch's career is going.

01:10:48.29
youcantcompthis
Getting more? Yeah yeah.

01:10:59.30
Adz
There's a chance that how that card buys a house one day you know what I mean like it's yeah I did my dough on my Thomas brightant to 10 I'm jogking I pulled it out of a pack. It was ah.

01:11:00.27
youcantcompthis
He Yeah, he's a beast. Yep.

01:11:16.17
youcantcompthis
He didn't um, take take money out of you mortgage did your hand to to buy that.

01:11:22.37
Adz
Ah, edge of that you just get it. You're like I a prism gold to 10 This is amazing and the guide never plays a game. That's how lucky or unlucky this hobby can be brutal. Um.

01:11:34.72
youcantcompthis
For final thoughts Ed um.

01:11:38.90
Adz
More exciting than black Friday sales is the trade denline. That's that's final thoughts on that. Um, and if those have those haven't seen the Kobe unveiling statue. Even if you're not a lakers fan. It's a very I know I thought it was a very good ceremony. Um, give it a watch.

01:11:51.77
youcantcompthis
And this clips up on instant. There's clips up and ins instant too. You don't need to watch the whole you know hour I can just tune in for 2 minutes and check it out. Look it's definitely worth giving you. You know 10 minutes of your mind space to it I agree. Yeah.

01:11:57.79
Adz
Yeah, yeah, this highlights yeah you you've got some greats on there. You've got karee talking. You've got Phil Jackson there's this ah there's some some serious ah Nba royalty up there. So.

01:12:14.32
youcantcompthis
Ah, look I think my final thoughts is um, kudos to the hornets for blowing it up good on them for not dragging this mediocre team out like they've been really, they've been mediocre for a few years now haven't they like.

01:12:19.53
Adz
Pay attention Washington true.

01:12:28.19
youcantcompthis
It's enough mediocrity either be good or be bad so they've chosen and yeah, so who else should be blown up now. Okay, let's ah this is what I want to close the the show with so who else should have been blown up.

01:12:33.50
Adz
Why not.

01:12:43.70
Adz
It's turning into the lord of the rings we have about 6 endings. Um, we blow up Washington not literally anyone that tries to.

01:12:49.69
youcantcompthis
We've said that we've said that the pistons I mean how much more can you blow they they blew themselves up in a way.

01:12:53.21
Adz
Before any americans try and have this show canceled. We don't physically mean to blow up Washington the spurs aren't blowing it up. They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna glow up in a couple of seasons you watch.

01:12:59.12
youcantcompthis
The spurs can't blow themselves up and. The blazes haven't who could they have traded away. maybe maybe Jeremy yeah and then the grizzlies have been trading away assets so actually a cut I can't really I can't really.

01:13:09.87
Adz
They bloww it up when they got rid of lillard.

01:13:19.90
Adz
Crisly is are blowing it a little bit celtic. The clippers should blow it up in my opinion. That's just because I don't like the clippers correct is just blow it up. Give up.

01:13:24.15
youcantcompthis
Criticize too many more teams can I you load up.

01:13:31.71
youcantcompthis
Like they're currently fourth in the west man. Do you know who the best team in the west is okay this is it. Let's end on a positive who's the best who's the best team in the west at the moment. The Minnesota Tim wolves ah

01:13:34.97
Adz
You know you cursed it doesn't matter. Ah don't ah why I say that Oklahoma city oh good sell the clippers who.

01:13:47.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, already mate. Thank you so much. Thanks around for listening Cheers fella.

01:13:51.26
Adz
Thanks for a great evening recapping the the trade deadline and listening to my kobe stories. Thanks everyone.