Episode 130: Aidos Uchos: Victor Wembamyama, Lebron 1/1, Giannis, Reggie Miller Downtown, Brandon Miller, Jonathan Kuminga

Episode 130 Russell is joined by Aidos Uchos and we start the show with
- Victor Wembamyama's 'Topps Now' On Card Autograph.
- We then run through some other sold Wembamyama prices.
- Lebron + Bronny 1/1 psa 10
- How do we revamp all star weekend?
- Prizm monopoly
- 100 case break  with Filthbomb breaks
- Giannis vs Lebron
- Downtown Reggie Miller
- Brandon Miller: 
- Jonathan Kuminga
- Killian Hayes; 

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Transcript

00:01.45
youcantcompthis
Welcome everybody to episode 130 of the you can't comp this and Nba Podcast I'm your host Russell Gibson and this week got ados uchos.

00:16.15
Aidos
Um, get a russell.

00:17.88
youcantcompthis
How are you today man I was just going to say Ados you chose from. But then I thought how do I know you from the the break group really isn't it. Yeah.

00:27.68
Aidos
It is from the break group. Yeah yeah, or um, a recent podcast guest on yours about one year ago almost to the day.

00:34.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's sad time. Actually I think to get back everyone from last year that hasn't been on so I've started to reach out from some of the previous guests that have come on which does actually remind me I need to reach out to Charlie again I think it'll be good to have him back on.

00:43.19
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

00:51.51
Aidos
Ah, that'll be good I think um well the ones that I've sort of listened to well I'll I'll listen to most of them to be honest, um and the interesting ones are the boys from Sports card nonsense are found quite interesting with those guys. Um.

00:52.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:57.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, thank you.

01:03.80
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

01:09.41
Aidos
And um, ah feel ah know. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah they are. They're good. They have a little bit of Tit Pitat kind of thing going on but um, on on their podcast but they were good guests and and um and I was interesting to hear those who I was.

01:09.72
youcantcompthis
To be fair, they are quite good at what they do.

01:29.25
Aidos
But those are the guys that popped out for me as this. Yes, yeah yeah.

01:30.87
youcantcompthis
Did you listen to Tim from slabstrong I feel like he was the best narrative driver that we had on the show like he just sort of spun these stories of.

01:44.78
Aidos
Um, yeah, he had um, quite humble beginnings didn't he he sort of was yeah owning like last paycheck or something he came up with this.

01:53.71
youcantcompthis
Well I'm not disputing his story but that is also part of the narrative right? isn't it and again like he like yeah yeah, he weaved that in it was like his last $200 that he spent you know, creating this painted it now paints in a device and yeah.

02:00.73
Aidos
Yeah, well we we love narratives. We love narratives here. That's ah.

02:09.80
Aidos
The yeah no it's interesting it's interesting but um yeah I think ah yeah I'm not too sure what I was going to say there I think I thought I might have spoken to him on Instagram about I just said could jump on the podcast or something.

02:13.49
youcantcompthis
So yeah.

02:26.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, beautiful. So I think let's not dilly deli too much before we get into the run sheet and to be fair, the top half of this run sheet is pretty much yours. So like 100% like credits you on that. But before I do.

02:28.95
Aidos
That's about it. Not that interesting.

02:43.98
youcantcompthis
Get into that just tell us about a couple of things you've picked up recently and put into your Pc or a couple of random hobby thoughts. That's you know on your mind. Yeah.

02:53.49
Aidos
So I've been ah I guess some of the most recent ones that I've picked up are some numbered shguon rookies prisms. So I think I've got the fast break 99

03:02.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

03:10.63
Aidos
Um, I've got a numbered one nine nine and just a few different color match cracked red ice I think um and I think I've got. Ah yeah, it must have been I'm not really sure I kind of just went on ebay and searched machine and that was when they were about.

03:20.43
youcantcompthis
From the the mega boxes.

03:30.31
Aidos
I don't know you can pick them up for 7 and marked but not that expensive. Um, yeah, well, that's what I I was doing that just before we yeah before I came on actually because I was going back to see what date I was on I was like oh I wonder how much ah a shngurin silver prison BsA 10 was

03:31.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah, think the last time you came on. You're also talking about shit and going weren't you.

03:50.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right have they gone up or down slightly though. Yeah.

03:50.27
Aidos
And they're roughly the same price. It probably increase like so ah, it's probably gone up a little bit so it's probably more stable now it's probably sitting at about 380 aussie dollars not not us so because I've got I've got my um.

04:03.47
youcantcompthis
Okay, yeah.

04:09.29
Aidos
Card ladder set on australian currency just so I don't get called out too much. Um, and so I think around that time there was a few fluctuations. It'd be 1 that was held for 310 and then there'd be 1 that's sell for 400 and sort of so it's probably just settled out a little bit but.

04:10.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so yeah.

04:27.43
Aidos
He was sort of um and I just wanted to see just because he was in the race for that most improved player against maxe so he was second for quite a long time but he he's dropped off a little bit now. But um I think that's probably got to do with the rocket's performance. Um. As well with winning games and and whatnot. But yeah, so that was just a little shagoon. Update for for everyone.

04:50.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's no, that's really good. So are you still feeling bullish about him though like do you still think he's a strong buy for you like you know where are you at with that.

04:58.67
Aidos
Um, it's interesting. He he has sort of like a cult following I feel so it's It's not so easy now to just pick things up on the cheap.

05:03.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it what creates this cult like because when you say that my first thought is that a lot of that's is money driven and that people think he's going to be like a joker light. And so they can see his price is going to you know seventy five or eighty percent of jokers. Yeah.

05:25.19
Aidos
Well, that's what people call in the baby Joker um, and whether that's ah, a fair comparison I mean I think Joker was is the person that he's modeled his game I like to have ah' I've seen a few Instagram posts where they have.

05:43.25
Aidos
Joker there and changur and and then like doing the same thing. Let's do the same thing with Anthony Edwards and and Michael Jordan and and stuff like that. So absolutely yeah, yeah, he's got the same body type sort of similar position. Um, and you know I think um was it the youngest.

05:46.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, he should be watching jerk of footage though like it makes sense doesn't ah yeah yeah.

06:02.56
Aidos
He he had some stat the other day about assists I think it was maybe the youngest player to 500 assists or something like that. So he's on a similar sort of trajectory. Um, you know obviously yocage came out of obscurity in the second round at 32 pick or something like that.

06:19.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, just the photos of him when he first came to leak is just crazy those and it's like bit like Janis when he came in just how much their bodies have changed in.

06:21.98
Aidos
Um, yeah, yeah, fantastic. Well so like even there's that young photo of joke each when he must have been just a teenager and he's just sort of sitting there I don't know if you've seen it, but it's just like he's. The best basketball player on the planet. Um and a similar sort of 1 I think there's a yeahna or story where he's like a tow boy and he goes and wipes the floor and stuff and he's like talk. He just mud the game and it's just like all right. He's a championship sort of finals Mvp kind of guy.

06:51.47
youcantcompthis
Yep.

06:58.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

07:01.10
Aidos
Yeah, and it's yeah, it's interesting where where people come from and those sort of stories are quite nice I think um so let's so let's get on. So um, so I wanted to talk to you about the.

07:08.36
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, all right? Let's do it? yes.

07:19.43
Aidos
Tox now on card auto for Victor Weba Yama so I wanted to ask you whether you're a victor wemben na man or a victor wemben ya man for the price of a numbered technically rookie card. Um, at. Two Thousand two hundred and fifty usd um yeah

07:40.64
youcantcompthis
So I think first of all, we need to break this down a little bit so that was your your prepared gag for the for the show. Yeah, that's really good. That's pretty good.

07:49.60
Aidos
Ah, that was it that was it what you? What does it? Yeah yeah, yeah, so it's um, just one of those things I've been saying when when people sort of been talking about wemb and and sort of buying into or just buying a single car bucket. If you're lucky enough to get into a random team and get the spurs and get a decent Wendy card I think all power to you but I'm just not sure I'd be entering into breaks and risking that sort of those funds for that possibility of the chance which is which is why I sort of thought that that would be um.

08:15.00
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

08:27.32
Aidos
Pretty attractive I think yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

08:28.20
youcantcompthis
So I think why don't we just take 2 seconds just to break this down a little bit more so the two thousand two hundred and fifty dollars guarantees you an autograph but all of the cards are randomized so there's a 99 base a number to 49 blue

08:39.45
Aidos
Autograph yeah.

08:44.59
Aidos
Yep.

08:46.60
youcantcompthis
Number to 25 purple number to ten red 5 orange and one gold. So basically what you're you know, paying that high dollar Mark for is the you know the 5 orange or the 10 or you know if you're lucky you get the gold. Yeah so I think.

08:57.94
Aidos
Ah, yeah.

09:01.20
youcantcompthis
Where I'm actually going to go with this is I'm going to be a little bit of Devil's advocate here because looking through the comments we put this up onto the you can't comp this Facebook page if you want to join and check that out. Please do basically everyone's saying no so I think just to avoid us being in an echo chamber I'm actually.

09:12.40
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

09:20.95
youcantcompthis
Going to do the opposite way about this because there's no way that these don't get sold out. You know in their entirety and I also don't see them discounting them either because looking at the after sales on Wemby stuff. It's It's really quite high and then.

09:27.24
Aidos
Um, yeah.

09:40.24
youcantcompthis
You put this into the comments too which is I think is a really good comparison a silver psa 10 is selling for basically the same price like almost identical actually so and we know about population counts most likely that will be numbered to. In the two thousand mark in the next couple of years. It doesn't have an autograph yes, it is the pro card. But and this is where I'm not going to try and do the cell but you know maybe plant a bit of a seed here I really do think we're in ah like a phase of transition within the hobby because I think. There was this really strong movement between pro prices college prices and the sort of you know products like this like Tyson Beck is probably another example too and maybe this is where Tyson's a little bit ahead of his time and maybe some of that tiome back stuff actually might increase in value over the next couple of years because. As we transition away from penini and we start heading towards fanatics ah products like this actually going to become a lot more valuable because if you want a rookie Autograph you're not going to get it out of panini. So I think collectors are goingnna to you know, spend their money you know in different places.

10:49.50
Aidos
Um.

10:53.51
Aidos
Definitely. And yeah, when I was thinking about it and whether you know the argument whether it would be a pack pulled card or not do you reckon with the with the risk just not really a risk involved but with the opportunity possibly to get. Um, a lower numbered card. It still comes in a pack. It's still sort of the same. It's I don't know if it's the same risk. But.

11:16.39
youcantcompthis
I Think people are still going to get the same thrill out of ripping that though that they would get a ripping out of a box. You know.

11:22.40
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, and and I was thinking like you know you can probably spend that amount in brakes trying to get a decent weby card but you could just buy the card like you get the opportunity.

11:37.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so I think fanatics have done a lot of interesting things already and I'll probably add this to the list of something else that now Fanatics has done and so going to your point and taking that further you could spend that money on breaks and get nothing.

11:40.56
Aidos
Um.

11:53.56
youcantcompthis
You could buy a box and get an absolute stinker and again you know, get nothing or you can go into the fanatics run lottery and and hope to get a low-numbered autograph or but you're still going to get a base number to 99 so you know I I don't actually mind this at all.

11:53.83
Aidos
Um.

12:11.98
youcantcompthis
I Think there are enough collectors out there that you know this will sell out I'm surprised that this hasn't sold out already and.

12:17.45
Aidos
So I had I had a look before it. It did sell out it just I think um I was going to actually have a look at it when I found out about it. But I just didn't get time during then and I was like ah I.

12:25.79
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

12:33.55
Aidos
Just don't have that much money to spend on that right now. But if I had the cash and it was available I'll probably buy it I think um, the only thing that was probably a detractor from it was maybe it was just it was about his thousand points. Um on the card.

12:38.27
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

12:51.88
Aidos
Had the Rc Logo had the um you know obviously has a number on there depending on which one you get and it has the autograph but it's the the photo of it has it's like celebrating a thousand points so you know whether that fits into like. The actual rookie card side of things I'm not too sure but I'm sure there'd been collectors out there trying.

13:13.40
youcantcompthis
Again I'm just trying to you know argue the other side. So I think for me the 2 thoughts in mind come to that it? Yeah no, that's cool but I just think that the comments were so heavily negative that you know I I don't think.

13:21.32
Aidos
Ah, Russ you don't have to tell me I'm a wembin ya man all right? yeah.

13:32.11
youcantcompthis
I would prefer not to create an echo chamber in this space. Do you know mean like and so that's why I'm just trying to think of it like this. So I think but 2 thoughts came to mind there is that I think the thousand points help you identify that it's the rookie year. You know that's that's pretty clever but I think the other thing too is then that also gives them further opportunities to do this again.

13:34.31
Aidos
Ah.

13:42.38
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:50.99
youcantcompthis
And I'm just trying to be like you know, realistic about where fanatics is going with this because I think like you think about this like this is direct from fanatics and then into the consumer's hands and that was the model that you know he spoke about that in the in his.

14:06.20
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:09.17
youcantcompthis
And his plan that he released you know a year or so back, you know this is the type of stuff that we're starting to see so you know they'll be the only thing I would probably be a little bit worried about you know you're spending $2000 but is this going to be happening again in the next month and then the next month again after that and then the next month again. But. Again to be the devil's advocate here. That's not so much dissimilar to what panini does with prism donras immaculate noir flawless honor on and on it's the same thing isn't it. Yeah.

14:38.13
Aidos
Um, yeah, exactly well I guess that that their that pricing model is just divided by how many boxes they make because everyone's trying to get that 1 card. It's like the lamele year people are just trying to get lamelo. But if there was an opportunity to just buy.

14:54.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

14:55.65
Aidos
That card then obviously it's going to cost more because it's not taking into consideration the cost of all the other cards and stuff but you get the thing that you want. it's like um it's like Tos of created a panini points model but the points is just money. Yeah.

15:15.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so I mean with that diverging too much and going down a pretty deep rabbit hole here. There's been a bit of online chatter that they won't have redemptions in their products and you know all the all the products are going to be full. So maybe we instead of seeing redemptions. We'll see.

15:26.38
Aidos
Yeah.

15:34.58
youcantcompthis
You know more promotions run like this. Yeah.

15:35.15
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, I don't yeah I don't mind I think it's I think it's a good good good direction. Personally I think if you you know have have a goal of getting 1 of those cards and it comes up and you happen to be in line and get 1 you know it's a bit like um sometimes when they release like sneakers and stuff like that. You know you put your email in in they'll email you whether you get in or not and then you know you have the opportunity to buy it or not um so yeah I think. Think it's just I don't know I get a feeling sometimes that people in the hobbyer a little bit scared of new things and a bit of change and um, but I think it's I think it ultimately for the consumer like there's so much wasted money on trying to hit that card and if you can just get it then.

16:29.90
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

16:30.25
Aidos
It makes sense to me. Um, and it probably would make sense to bike parents Maybe people not who don't want to have the gambling aspect involved in trying to pull those cards. Um, so yeah.

16:42.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

16:47.97
Aidos
That's that's just my thoughts on that.

16:48.39
youcantcompthis
And look I actually hadn't had that exact thought but I suppose just to maybe pass it out a little bit more I Still think they can have sealed boxes where you don't know what's in the boxes. But then maybe what you know what? you're talking about here is this actually just taps into a different market and a different type of people that you know want that.

16:59.39
Aidos
Definitely definitely.

17:07.39
youcantcompthis
Ah, surety you know, maybe that's the better word isn't it. But yeah look I think probably the this is Goingnna I open the floor to you but this is gonna be my final thought here I do think this is just part of the ongoing battle that we're currently seeing between fanatics and panini and.

17:09.17
Aidos
Yeah, ah but I think the word is risk adverse. Maybe I don't like that aspect of it.

17:27.90
youcantcompthis
You know, really this is you know I see this as I'm using air quotes now an act of war because Paninio now rolling out all these products with no signatures and then fanatics are selling them for $2000 a pop in a sealed packet like it's just such a stark contrast for me and you know just.

17:40.87
Aidos
Um, yeah.

17:46.91
youcantcompthis
And case anyone hasn't heard you know my opinion about the no autographs. It's just it's really disturbed me and and it's almost kept me up at night like I'm having nightmares about it. You know it's just it's really upset me. Yeah, yeah.

17:56.80
Aidos
It Yeah I Guess yeah, it's quite sad. It's just like that's how I feel it's like that big like no autograph text it was just like and it's quite fun of you like I have seen some groups because obviously it's a case hit.

18:03.92
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

18:15.98
Aidos
Um, and then some groups have had that wemany Yama no autograph thing as the advertising for their group that's just ah, just yeah, it just odd.

18:23.33
youcantcompthis
Yeah, again to be Devil's advocate they're actually sold really? Well, they're selling for you know more than a thousand us dollars people are still considering them to be an ssp look I think my concern is though is not now what are they going to be selling for in 5 years that's the

18:33.29
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

18:42.33
Aidos
Ah, yeah, yeah, exactly I I wouldn't be showing out that much I thought them. But.

18:42.96
youcantcompthis
Like the real thing. Yeah.

18:51.12
youcantcompthis
Look I thought we could just go through some comps on some some Webaana because this is for me something I haven't really done that much you know time into he's not on card ladder. So I literally just sat there tonight and just went through ebay sold listings and just jotted them all down. So.

18:52.97
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:02.64
Aidos
Um, yeah.

19:10.53
youcantcompthis
I won't run through them all because I think it's it's pretty um, it's pretty boring just hearing out the numbers but basically the raw silvers have sold between 60300 and that's usd prices. So you know that is in my mind actually sky high and. Anthony Mill put this into the the comments before like you know this is really into like the rarefied air of you know Jordan Lebron you know type pricing on cards. So and the silvers this is aud prices ps a 819203 that so they've. Very consistently sold in that three and a half thousand aud mark which again you know in terms of you know, like today's hobby valley like that's up around you know the yanas sort of Mark and that's up around.

19:50.22
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

20:04.52
youcantcompthis
That's more than Kd it's it's more than you know some of the really big guys that's less than Steph off the top of my head. But.

20:10.36
Aidos
Yeah, it's um, how just like it's it's been. You know, ah repeated so often. Um, when these products first come out like what's the difference between getting one that's graded first and graded. You know. Two years later when the price probably is at the level where it probably should be like always first. The market generally is going to get that higher price.

20:39.77
youcantcompthis
I Do I do think that's true but I would probably say you know there's a lot of excitement around this kid and I do I do understand that I do share that excitement like I think he's an amazing prospect and then also too is just the population of it isn't it right.

20:54.11
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

20:55.93
youcantcompthis
You're looking at the pop reports and there's 2 of them like I I get how people can you know, definitely get caught up in that and maybe forget that 10000 more are going to be submitted in the next couple of years so yeah

21:06.62
Aidos
Um, but what what I would say rice at at population 2 is that you can't comp that.

21:11.97
youcantcompthis
Ah, that's your second joke for tonight and eat. Go easy man. This is a serious podcast ados.

21:17.49
Aidos
Ah, sorry man I didn't mean to um so oh no, I'm so sorry. Um so the other variations. So the Cracked ice um roughly what's that between.

21:30.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

21:36.19
Aidos
6 60 and 4 sixty to move around. Yeah.

21:37.75
youcantcompthis
So I think the narrative around that is actually quite interesting because that's out of the prison blasts that leaked early. Yeah, so I kind of understand why the price on that is quite high but at the same time too I think.

21:43.95
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

21:55.29
youcantcompthis
I Think of all of these That's the most fraught with Peril for me because I think that's the one that's most likely going to you know, crash and crash pretty hard.

22:01.89
Aidos
Yeah I tend to agree with that. So what was that was that Walmart they got in trouble for releasing it early. Did they have to pay a fine or something for that. Yeah, okay.

22:08.20
youcantcompthis
I actually haven't been able to find anything about that to say about the penalty that they did receive. But finally now that we're segueing down this little like rabbit hole. So I was reading online on a forum the other day to say that. Someone picked up the prism monopoly blasters they went to the checkout to scan out. Yeah, and then they couldn't go through with the purchase. So basically it's just like repeating itself again and it's happening again. So and then I was looking on ebay today. There is a heap of prism monopoly blasts available.

22:27.63
Aidos
I did see this to? yeah yeah.

22:35.89
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

22:44.83
youcantcompthis
Singles that are already being you know, sold and actually I got to say like I know in the past I haven't been that crazy about the collectibility of the prison Monopoly stuff but the the variance issue actually looked nicer than the. Prism you know retail that we're seeing with the women Yanna Stuff. So I'm actually.

23:04.33
Aidos
I haven't had an opportunity yet to have a look at um, the variations but um, did you speak last week about how many variations there are now was that something that I learned from you guys.

23:13.30
youcantcompthis
So we did discuss that it's 6 It's over 63 is something like this. Yeah.

23:18.48
Aidos
And is the monopoly set considered a subset so you okay, yeah, so yeah, right? So there's another 40 odd to tack on of this set and.

23:22.20
youcantcompthis
So the those variants are in addition to the yeah yeah.

23:32.43
youcantcompthis
Probably another 60 or 70 Yeah, yeah, it's next level isn't it like the amount of product this is being printed now is just think as collectors. We're just really animals aren't we really.

23:36.40
Aidos
Ah, the same picture. But yeah.

23:41.86
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, well it's it's interesting so in the in the world of like hokemon generally there's you know a release every three months and that's simply for the gameplay aspects of.

23:59.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

23:59.69
Aidos
Of playing the trading card game um with with a few subsets in between so they you know they had the celebrations thing for the 25 year anniversary. Um, they have these fates. Um ah subsets that come out sort of in between those periods as well. Um, but it just seems like at the moment.

24:18.91
Aidos
Just getting just so much product from panini um, looking at like some of the pre releases and stuff so sorry so court court Kings is coming out soon as well. Um. And then so monopoly I wasn't expecting them to do and ah another monopoly round.

24:42.38
youcantcompthis
Like I I have seen this narrative being narrative being thrown around that penny just going to print out as much stuff as they can and just basically make as much money before they exit. Yeah and look.

24:54.40
Aidos
Yeah, just ride the boat into the rocks sort of in there.

25:00.29
youcantcompthis
And you can make the argument that they're doing it in you know, very subtle ways or you can sort of read between the lines and say actually no, they're doing it in a very blatant way and I think you know what? you just said then is is quite right? Like if there's 60 something variance in prism hobby in prism retail and there's another 16 monopoly where then like the maths in that's easy. We was speculating last week about how now there's 2 numbered cards in the in the cases of prism blasters and so that in my head.

25:17.57
Aidos
A.

25:26.80
Aidos
So yeah.

25:32.77
youcantcompthis
And if we're being pessimistic about panini that I think they've just doubled the print run there.

25:37.31
Aidos
Well, it'll be the easiest.

25:39.58
youcantcompthis
Sample size of only one I did watch a case and only 1 autograph came out though. So that to me is like very very interesting.

25:47.62
Aidos
Okay, well could that be possibly because note that no one's signing or is that just it.

25:56.40
youcantcompthis
I Think it's just a cost measurement thing. You know if you're just printing out cards putting them into cases and then you know, only one sort of consumable in there. But that's easy money isn't it.

26:04.27
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, definitely that takes me to a thought how many stickers do you think Panini have in the warehouse just like sitting there that have been signed directing their.

26:18.45
youcantcompthis
Look I've got no idea but they've definitely got heaps of stuff sitting around. So for example, the one that comes to mind story of that is manu ginobly so they've had stickers for him for years. He hasn't been in products now that they know that towards the end of it man who came out in last year's products now.

26:26.52
Aidos
So yeah.

26:35.32
Aidos
Um, yeah.

26:37.87
youcantcompthis
You know he'll he'll be in until at the end of their products now and and obviously Duncan's coming back to he signed 20000 stickers so we know there's going to be 20000 plus the on card autographs coming out too. So yeah.

26:47.92
Aidos
Well, that was but 1 thing that I was going to ask what your thoughts were about Tim Duncan's pricing with the popularity of Wembbayama is there a possibility to sort of retroactively increase. Tim Duncan's prices with. The possibility of a whole heap of new people coming in following the spurs just because of wema yama.

27:12.92
youcantcompthis
I don't know what it's going to take for Tim Duncan to change his hobby pricing because in my head and I'm not saying this to be controversial but there is definitely an argument to be made that he's top 5 of all time at the you know the ceiling and then at the absolute like basement for me's 10

27:25.50
Aidos
And.

27:30.67
Aidos
Yeah.

27:32.72
youcantcompthis
And for someone to change my mind and put duncan out of the top 10 for me something really dramatic. They would have to make this argument between so profound I would have to like almost have a sort of a crisis and you know so and you know and when you compare you know he. He standings and then his's hobby prices like the equation just doesn't like play out for me. So at some point though I think his's hobby valuable change. It's just you know when is that going to happen and and how much is it going to change so to take your point. Maybe it's that but ah. I don't think so I think it's going to be something like a documentary's made or a movie is made or something like that that will capture you know him in the media and I think that's also part of it too. You can throw Choi Leonard into this. Yeah they're the anti. Social media the the anti self-promotion. You know, true american you know doing podcasts and all the rest of it.

28:34.53
Aidos
Um, yeah, ah it's it's probably the ah the people that sort of like that about those plays as well because there would be people that like Koal Lena simply because he's sort of that person is not out in front but it's sort of it's.

28:44.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely that fits my personality typing for sure. Yeah, yeah.

28:51.32
Aidos
Interesting because those are the people who probably wouldn't go to the effort to get the cards and sort of be worried about that. It's almost like that don't want to tell people about this ah secret just because he's like ah, an amazing player. Um, but it.

29:06.74
youcantcompthis
That but the numbers for Tim Duncan are so obvious like that's also the part that I struggle with too like why? Why aren't other people noticing this you know like he's he's yeah.

29:14.33
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, they just look past it. There was there was something caught on because Shaq's been doing a podcast I'm not sure if you're aware of that. But um, ah you might have been a guest on something else. No you know.

29:28.31
youcantcompthis
I'm not aware of it. But I also wouldn't listen to it.

29:34.60
Aidos
Not a fair big diesel.

29:36.61
youcantcompthis
I'm happy to catch snippets of him you know in clips on Instagram or you know on Espn or Nba Tv that's fine but I think to sit down and listen to him speak for an hour or forty five minute hour or forty five minutes that would really disturb me I think yeah.

29:43.57
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

29:50.45
Aidos
Yeah, well so so so well so interesting that you bring up the clips because it was a clip that I saw and he was saying the only person that they're like who's the only person that wasn't scared of you and is like straightaway's like Tim Duncan and that was it. He's like he didn't care.

29:53.13
youcantcompthis
So what's it like is he intelligent is he curious like where.

30:09.70
Aidos
Like didn't care that he was bigger I didn't care anything. He was not not afraid and it's just like those little things I was like yeah Tim Duncan and it just got me thinking about if wembby's so popular and all like I get like hordes of new fans for the spurs.

30:12.92
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

30:25.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

30:28.42
Aidos
They go back and look at the championships that Tim Duncan's won and then sort of retroactively in they want I want a Tim Duncan card and then all of a sudden because of wembby's popularity that sort of market increases.

30:40.79
youcantcompthis
Maybe maybe someone makes a documentary about the spurs history and from then to now and you know they put Duncan on a pinnacle and yeah.

30:47.19
Aidos
Yeah, yeah I think it it could be more interesting than um, the Mj documentary but that's just the person I've been with.

30:59.81
youcantcompthis
Ah I mean it was kind of good watching mj just slaughter people for about an hour wasn't it. You know that was kind of good.

31:03.93
Aidos
Definitely Yeah, yeah, it's just um, he just doesn't seem that likeable to me personally I know that that doesn't really matter in terms of basketball skill. But yeah I kind of yeah seemed a bit ruthless. And yeah, oh.

31:20.91
youcantcompthis
I mean look probably deep down that speaks to a lot of people doesn't it like they wish they could be that person you know like let's be true. All right I want want to talk about 2 more prices of women yada and then.

31:29.30
Aidos
Definitely definitely definitely definitely was yeah sorry.

31:39.21
Aidos
The the.

31:39.77
youcantcompthis
We' move on to the next bit and you can get your final thought so in a pick your player case of blasters women. Youre sold for 859 aud and that to me is just you know mind numbing because. What's the chance that you'd even get your money back like so if you're going through the concept. We just did you have to get at least 1 silver realistically two to break. Even.

32:08.80
Aidos
To. Yeah, or so is was that in the blasters. Did you say Blaster case now I think I asked you this question the other day about Blaster cases do have numbered cards in Them. Don't they it's just.

32:18.15
youcantcompthis
Yeah, as a blasster case. Yeah.

32:29.58
youcantcompthis
There's 2 numbered variants this year in blasters. Yeah, and then also auto potential. Yeah.

32:32.55
Aidos
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay yeah, it's realistically what are you hoping like you you could get nothing. You could get nothing.

32:44.76
youcantcompthis
You're not going to get an autograph I think you're hoping for a numbered card though and that would be like the really big. Yeah.

32:49.79
Aidos
Ah, theyll be yeah, definitely definitely. But even that like return. Yeah I don't know um, ah as you know I'm a big odds guy. Um I'd prefer to just buy 1 blaster but i't get that card then that's fine, um spending.

33:03.87
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

33:07.77
Aidos
$900 or on on that would be save up a little bit more and you can buy the autogras cards from tops you know, um, it's you? Yeah yeah, yeah, because that's a u and yeah, but okay, but if I think maybe if you've got.

33:13.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you're already halfway there I know actually that's not. It's about a third of the ways in it. Yeah yeah, yeah.

33:27.31
Aidos
That kind of money to throw around on that then possibly you might have a little bit more to to shell out to to tops now Auto possibly.

33:37.31
youcantcompthis
That that really staggered me actually I was I was really surprised by that. Yeah, final thoughts on victor.

33:43.10
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah, look I'd be happy to hit one in ah in um, if I bought just a retail blaster or you know a fat pack or something like that. But I don't.

33:55.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you still want to have a dabble. Yeah yeah.

33:59.49
Aidos
Yeah, exactly you want to have a you know you know I'm sure there's a lot of people that just bought 1 line in the one hundred and sixty million dollars lotto the other day just want to be in the game. So yeah, but I don't think I'd be yeah none of those prices.

34:07.40
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

34:13.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and look I think that's a really good place to leave this at because I think he's creating a lot of Hobby excitement people do want to have a go at this. So I think this is all very you know it's good for the Hobby I Think there's not a lot of arguments to be made. You know there and you can see the. The after sell prices are Excellent. So yeah.

34:34.67
Aidos
Definitely Well Yeah, well the interesting part of that too would be looking at you know people I have a feeling that people might like hoard this product and by it as like sealed investments and sometimes.

34:51.69
youcantcompthis
Why would they? Why would they do that though.

34:52.17
Aidos
Yeah, and but I guess on the other hand too that well if you look at um so people are still ah, depending on what you read and what you believe like about that the luca 1 of 1 like let's just say that when wemany yama 1 of one doesn't gets.

35:03.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

35:08.78
youcantcompthis
But that would come out a hobby not out of blasters. Yeah.

35:09.43
Aidos
Gets fooled and doesn't get spoken about or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I stiff I'm just forward thinking for when when they come out the Hobby stuff comes out I think that that you know a lot of people might just get a box and just leave it for a while um on the hope that that one.

35:17.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah, cool. Yeah yeah.

35:24.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

35:29.16
Aidos
1 doesn't get pulled by backyard breaks in the first week that it's out. Um.

35:29.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah, in in the first day. Yeah, exactly yeah, look and kind of answered you I Actually don't disagree with that thought process because he is that type of prospect. Yeah.

35:41.25
Aidos
Definitely yeah and with that yeah with the luke of 1 of 1 still sort of possibly not pulled. it's it's interesting it's just another aspect of the collecting I guess that you know potential to be looked at as.

35:49.80
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

35:57.72
Aidos
A way to spend your money if you wanted to you just have to wait a lot. You just have to wait a few years the sanity. Yes, yeah, definitely.

35:58.25
youcantcompthis
Absolutely It's a very long term play. Yeah, and and definitely there'll be people you know doing that so you know waiting twelve months shines come off the product people want to you know, unload some and then you you know you're picking up boxes for cheap like you know I'm I'm totally fine with that. Actually.

36:21.13
Aidos
And and by then Brandon Miller might be might be the man never know never know. Um all right? no no no I see yeah. yeah

36:23.87
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely right next in the Run sheet. Sorry after you, you want to run in the next thing.

36:37.87
Aidos
Um, thought Brendan Brandon Miller might have been the next on the run sheet but he's not that other that that's all right? Where are we at the Lebron and bronnie one of 1

36:38.73
youcantcompthis
Would you like to talk about Brandon Miller next

36:48.53
youcantcompthis
So I think we should talk about this just for the fact that it has been pulled and it has been sent for grading so it happened pretty quickly like the thing that confused me a little bit was I felt like we were just watching videos on social media about them signing it. And doesn't feel like that many weeks later now it's been put into packs ran randomly sent out ripped and it's been revealed so I mean congratulations to the person who did hit it and it also came back pa 10 so I think you know you can talk about.

37:11.65
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

37:26.47
youcantcompthis
Ah, narrative if you like to but the narrative I wanted to explore with you is what does this card mean for collectors. What does this card mean for the future. You know, do you see this is something that's going to be. You know, really chaste or is it just sort of another Lebron James autograph.

37:43.27
Aidos
I Have a feeling look and obviously yeah Bronnie has had his health concerns which you know might have put a little bit of a might have just slowed things down a little bit in terms of them playing together. Um, you know look He's been on minute restrictions. Um for his team and cardio arrest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, and so you know it's It's quite interesting and just like it.

38:06.72
youcantcompthis
And for people at home that don't know he had a cardiac arrest on the court and was revived and taken to hospital and yeah.

38:22.10
Aidos
The the hatred sometimes that comes out for Lebron James is is interesting. Um, you know with yes, definitely definitely. But um, you know.

38:27.11
youcantcompthis
I Mean that's well established within ah our podcast group and also our our chat group. Also yeah, so yeah.

38:38.85
Aidos
People have been sort of quite critical on his stats I guess from college games I don't know how many people watching him? Um, but just looking at the statlines and it's not been impressive but I don't know what his minutes have been like either and it's coming back from it Heart Attack Cardiac arrest.

38:55.44
youcantcompthis
Down.

38:57.81
Aidos
Um, you know?? Ah yeah I Just don't know about um obviously that card is going to be worth a lot of money and someone's going to possibly sell it for a lot of money but I just think that it wouldn't if I had that kind of money. It wouldn't probably be the investment that I'd be. Looking at it wouldn't be as safe as possibly. It would have been when he initially said he wanted to play with his son from those health concerns as an objective sort of an opinion of that. Um, but you know if if it does will work out.

39:29.20
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

39:36.25
Aidos
Then you know money well spent. They're playing the same team. You know possibility of you know he's running that team winning a championship if he wins a championship with his son. That's you know the best script possible. Um, so.

39:51.90
youcantcompthis
So his numbers in college have been what 3 points a game 3 rebounds and 1.4 assists something like this and I'm not going to lie to anyone here I don't watch a minute of college I I find it hard enough just to keep up with the Nba and.

39:57.84
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

40:10.41
youcantcompthis
You know watching the games I want to watch so I sort of do that to manage my own time and I just make it very hard I might watch the final you know that's about it. But so I can't really talk about this with any like true insight to what's going on but my gut feeling about this is that he's.

40:18.13
Aidos
Yeah.

40:29.63
youcantcompthis
Basically dropped off every single prospect board and every single you know Draft Board that is in ah existence I haven't seen him listed on one. So if he does get drafted. It's pure nepotism and the team that drafts him is essentially doing it to get the package of Lebron and bronnie and.

40:39.10
Aidos
Um, yeah.

40:49.40
youcantcompthis
Can I be honest with you I am totally fine with that I'm not supporting nepotism I'm just saying like if I'm a general manager and I can get Lebron James and my team and that's what it takes to spend a second round pick on his son like what come on like what are we talking about here. Let's you know.

40:50.00
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

41:01.30
Aidos
Yeah.

41:04.00
youcantcompthis
Let's cut the rubbish in like say that's a great move. So I'm fine with that.

41:07.89
Aidos
So who's Lebron like replacing its um Sacramento then.

41:12.72
youcantcompthis
Ah, like it can't be the darn Fox and de Montte soburnus in.

41:16.57
Aidos
But it can't be a way. He's not coming off the bench because monks monks still got to stay there for the rest of us for a little bit.

41:26.34
youcantcompthis
Ah, so think like getting back to this card. Do I think it's valuable because of Ronnie like I'm saying this in a kind way I really don't think so I think speculating on that is a very long-term thing do I think that this is an interesting card. It's very interesting like we haven't seen Lebron autographs for a very long time. That's interesting and it's also interesting to have a father and son on the same card like that is actually thoughtful and whoever came up with that idea like I I like it so again like full points to fanaticsy like this is ah you know this is a really cool card.

42:02.31
Aidos
Definitely and ah I I didn't look it up but is there any other father son combinations that do have a autograph together on the same card. Okay, yeah, yeah.

42:09.37
youcantcompthis
I actually think Doc and Austin have got one? Yeah, but that's a really good question which I don't actually know the answer to but I am pretty sure Doc and Austin do because I think I bit on ebay because I thought that's just like a cool. Yeah.

42:29.65
Aidos
Yeah, and it is what it's just one of those um, interesting things that pop up but you know as you're saying possibly not being the prospect that he kind of was it might just not work out.

42:45.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so I think that and then just the third thing too is it's not pro uniform. It's high school slash college. So look I think this is gonna be it'll sell very very well. But I don't think this is going to be 1 of the most valuable cards you know ever? so.

42:46.91
Aidos
That way. Yeah. Yeah, yeah cut. Yeah.

43:02.73
Aidos
Yeah, wait yeah ah and and I have sort of so there's a ah lebron only um Facebook group that only sells sort of high end theron cards and sometimes you see these? ah.

43:02.90
youcantcompthis
Whoever gets it I think is going to be a lebron collector. That's my gut feeling I don't.

43:19.42
Aidos
The Irish Uniforms Signature They sometimes they pop up and they used to be quite expensive but I haven't seen them pop up reasonzingly but I would imagine if he's starting to sign in pro uniforms that those cards might drop in value as well and but. Probably would be considered one of those products I know it's a 1 of 1 Um.

43:40.51
youcantcompthis
But John O'michaels agrees with your thought process in that space and he is a devout collector of Lebron and.

43:56.21
youcantcompthis
I'm probably coming around to his way of thought when it goes into that space to be honest, but at the same time too I would also not be panic selling those cards because you don't really know what the fanatics cards are going to end up coming to look like so.

44:08.70
Aidos
I'll be keeping him? yeah.

44:13.56
youcantcompthis
Like just take and point that wem yarna card that you put up today on socials like he more looks like Jeremy Socha than than victor like what they did to his hair. It's like purple and pink you make a pink and purple card of lebron in a pro uniform like I'm so probably still going to be going for that irish stuff to be honest, like some of that squi.

44:23.49
Aidos
Um, yeah.

44:31.60
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

44:33.56
youcantcompthis
Exquisite stuff looks really good. You know like are you going to sell it for that alone like that doesn't add up to me So there's still a bit of room in that in that space to move I think yeah.

44:41.74
Aidos
Yeah.

44:49.18
Aidos
Definitely all right? Yes, all star weekend. Did you watch any I think that they missed they're missing an opportunity to have 1 on 1 tournaments or 2 on 2 tournaments. Um, you know.

44:50.49
youcantcompthis
Old style weekend. You want it completely revamped.

45:06.50
Aidos
Even playing you know schoolyard games like horse like I think I posted on the group like if you're getting Steph Curry shooting in from in the crowd or um, you know playing against someone else who who shoots the ball long. Um, you know it's a bit like.

45:22.99
youcantcompthis
Like Steph versus Sabrina that's awesome. Yeah.

45:24.71
Aidos
I think the three point oh it's their first sabri answer that. Yeah, just you know I'm going to take a shot from here you you have to match my shot or you get a letter just have it up on the screen horse like it I think it'll be a little bit more relatable. Um. And and possibly people would you know try harder just imagine like you know if you had ah Pallo Banquero versus I don't know Jalen Green or anyone um Wendy verse chet one on one. You know.

45:54.70
youcantcompthis
Chet. Yeah yeah. Yeah.

46:01.70
Aidos
And ah, people would play harder than they do on East versus west um, or like a 2 on 2 like Nba jam sort of style. You know you got your 2 players from 1 10 2 players from others and you can pick and choose um I just think I was watching it. Um, and then some college basketball came on afterwards. But um, yeah, just watching even like the the um slam dunk competition I don't know how much more they can improve on ah on the slam dunk. Um, so yeah, don't know. I thought it was just a bit tired. Not sure what you thought.

46:39.90
youcantcompthis
So I think for me the most important thing of the weekend is the actual all-star game. So I'm just going to start there and I think everybody has a price. So whatever. They're currently paying them is not enough to make them try hard.

46:46.66
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

46:57.90
Aidos
And.

46:58.79
youcantcompthis
So what I'm basically saying is throw as much money as you can at this to get it to work so there's a $12000000 price to the winner and and the players get it. So if the east win it then they divide up twelve million bucks between them like surely they can revenue race.

47:01.75
Aidos
Ah, yeah, that's where but but yeah, yeah.

47:18.40
youcantcompthis
$12000000 with advertising like ah I mean shortly? yeah right? So okay, whatever the number is let's call it 12 or 50 Whatever. But you know that's that and not to charities too like it goes to their private yachts and they're like knights to the strippers and stuff like that. You know what I mean like let's keep it real here like yeah.

47:19.92
Aidos
For sure I don't think that would be a problem. Um.

47:31.59
Aidos
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

47:36.91
youcantcompthis
And then I think for the all the other stuff look again like I don't really I don't really care about this sort of stuff. But again I think if there was enough money in it for the dunk competition then Lebron would have been in it. You know every year you know? So I think.

47:51.50
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, that's interesting. You say that because I was going to say you know if if there was like a ah 1 on one tournament or ah, a 2 on 2 tournament. Um, you know some of those players have. Like money isn't really an issue but like beating someone else might be more important that's something that's like more important than money but looking at the dunk competition. Probably that's what they're already doing like there's no is I don't think there's any cash incentive involved in it.

48:11.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

48:25.94
Aidos
Is there? Um, so they're already doing that So I don't know.

48:26.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right? ah.

48:30.11
youcantcompthis
I just think that for me I think if you get the game right? Everything else just fall into place and even if you have you know a dunk competition. That's not that great or you have a 3 point shooter. That's not that great. You can kind of live with that. But I I just still think like the centerpiece is that and.

48:36.17
Aidos
Um, yeah.

48:46.17
Aidos
Yeah.

48:48.14
youcantcompthis
Until they get that right? I think all these other stuff they're trying to do. It's a bit like what does it matter you know? Yeah I mean when you're growing up. Did you watch all the other all-star games and like what's an allstar game that sort of comes to memory for you.

48:52.83
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

49:03.39
Aidos
Um, look when during that period probably through the 90 s I was probably quite young I can't like go to a particular game but I remember it you know, being way more rivalry driven. Um.

49:16.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so did you did you see the allstar game when magic had retired because of HIV and then somehow he got voted in just for the all-star game and he came back for that 1 game.

49:20.00
Aidos
And sort of yeah.

49:28.77
Aidos
No I don't know but inform me that.

49:33.84
youcantcompthis
Well in my head that was the most competitive all-star game that I've seen because they were all kind of going at magic and magic. It was like going at them and it was just this whole sort of back and forth thing and.

49:49.66
Aidos
And.

49:51.83
youcantcompthis
I'm sure there's other competitive also games too with you know Jordan doing crazy stuff and Kobe but and that's sort of what I was leading into next like we just don't really have that personality type at the moment that's a complete maniac that wants to destroy everybody? yeah.

49:57.37
Aidos
Yeah, that's.

50:05.82
Aidos
Exactly? Yeah yeah, which yeah I think I think Chet Chet might have a bit of dog in him doing that kind of stuff I think he? Yeah yeah, um, but for years to come like those rivalries and especially with wemby I think he.

50:10.98
youcantcompthis
Needs more starter votes than.

50:23.61
Aidos
Ah, two that could be the next big sort of rivalry those 2 against each other and it yeah probably a shame that it might take a few more years for disperse to sort of get to okay c level. But um, yeah, yeah.

50:24.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

50:34.70
youcantcompthis
I Think it's going to take them a really long time. Yeah there. Yeah I mean the only thing that would make me wrong about that is that they're trying to be deliberately bad this year I think that's probably the thing I might be missing in that though like.

50:42.68
Aidos
Was it that.

50:51.62
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

50:53.34
youcantcompthis
Think them playing son at point god like that was I mean we've talked about that heaps but it's just like I don' it's just appalling isn't it really? um, right I think we should skip through a couple of these things I think the best buy we push that for next week because we're almost at an hour already so we'll just do these last few is like.

51:02.11
Aidos
Um, yeah.

51:08.85
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

51:12.38
youcantcompthis
As quick hitters. So this really quickly. This is not particularly an Mba story but filthbom brakes who is ah a very large company. They did a hundred case break recently and it was an ah Mlb product and how it came into my socials is because people were saying well they're not. Showing all the cards and they're just breaking them in a room and there's like a lot of criticisms about that. So I'm really just teasing this because I actually reached out to them and asked them would they come onto the show so in the next hopefully two or three weeks they'll be coming on to have a talk to us about doing a hundred case break because. It's a crazy crazy idea. But they've they've done it? Yeah yeah.

51:54.79
Aidos
Um, it seems overwhelming So how many boxes are in a case of that product don't sure Ruby like it.

52:01.42
youcantcompthis
Look I saw him flip it over it looked maybe 14 or 16 boxes something like that in that sort of realm it's and it's it's a very base heavy product. It looks at look like Don Russ something like this.

52:07.56
Aidos
Yeah.

52:15.18
Aidos
Um, well, the only thing that I can think of that was sort of similar to that possibly was when the um group was going after that baseball bounty they needed to get all the cards in the psa ten and these guys were just riffpping product riff and product group and product. But i.

52:27.93
youcantcompthis
Yes.

52:31.59
Aidos
Like if you're trying to do that in a timely manner and like to that did they have a single camera on a single spot or.

52:38.45
youcantcompthis
So I actually tried to watch some of the feed today and and I found it I found it actually on fanatics life is actually where it was and on social media. It looked to me like they had sort of an aerial camera over the top.

52:48.70
Aidos
And.

52:54.69
Aidos
Okay, yeah.

52:58.60
youcantcompthis
But in the actual broadcast. It's just a single breaker that you see you don't actually see the 10 other guys breaking at the same time. Yeah and sports cards notts who you touched on earlier Jesse was making the joke that it's like Wonka's factory when they're looking foru assault wasn't it when.

53:04.00
Aidos
Yeah, okay.

53:11.51
Aidos
Yeah, yeah for Ro Yeah, it's at the chocolate bar opening manufacturing. Yeah it.

53:17.80
youcantcompthis
When they changed the peanut factory into the but you don't see that in the live video though. That's not what it looks like at all, but it's still a 11 hour video just despite 10 people breaking at the same time like it's just wild. Yeah.

53:28.42
Aidos
Um, yeah, yeah I mean is is bigger better I'm not sure doing that kind of stuff because then like you know, being in breaks yourself, you'd like this is. You know transparency involved like you see each card pulled like you sort of see that you know and maybe it was ah the wrong product to do that with if it's so base heavy.

54:00.17
youcantcompthis
I Think these are the questions we have to ask them? yeah.

54:04.50
Aidos
Yeah, just because like it. Ah yeah, if you're ripping Don Ras you'd be like there's you know, 2 or 3 good cards in the pack and the rest are. But if you're ripping like a hundred cases of I don't know what would be I don't know.

54:21.50
Aidos
Court Kings maybe or something along those lines. Yeah yeah, you could probably get through it and it probably wouldn't take 11 hours you know in in my head. It's sort of just a bad use of resources time and sort of.

54:23.39
youcantcompthis
You could at least see the the 10 cards out of each box. Yeah.

54:40.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah I and I think that is the what you just said there with the lack of transparency that was the the thing that kept on coming up again and again and again in the comments and like and that is definitely something I would I'm going to ask them like you know how do you make sure that the hits get to the person who paid for the spots.

54:40.30
Aidos
Lack of transparency as well and.

54:57.17
Aidos
Well and like the Mlb guys they want those base cards so you got to pack up all those base cards and.

54:59.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

55:07.76
youcantcompthis
That's also on the question list to who's the poor sucker that had to sort a hundred cases.

55:12.87
Aidos
Yeah, ah ah, that might keep me up so thinking about that.

55:20.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah, ah, all righty Janis versus Lebron James so this is a goodie actually 2013 rookie Yanis Gold Nine point five bgs 10 autograph and a 2008 tops chrome Lebron James number to 5 bgs nine basically the same price 51002 92800 which would you choose and why.

55:54.43
Aidos
Look I feel like there's probably only a few players that are sort of blue chip stocks. You know? Yeah Mj and probably Lebron. Liquid like if you if you needed to sell them then you could probably just get you know most recent sales price or you know around there you know you know I don't think you've been losing money on those cards. Um I know yanis has a championship. Um, he's the leader of the bus team. He's got his brother on the team. He's probably. You know what? that situation is probably pretty similar to what leronn will do with Bronnie I think at the start at least? Um, yeah, yeah, which um is I think he's quite transparent about that I think.

56:39.68
youcantcompthis
It's a hundred percent nepotism in that too. Yeah.

56:49.84
Aidos
Did you say the stats the other day about um the people the votes there was 3 votes for thenai for for the for all-star team is it the 2 other yeah yarnis and is there another attend kupo.

56:56.87
youcantcompthis
For for what who voted for him.

57:07.75
youcantcompthis
Probably.

57:09.15
Aidos
In there? Yeah, so they all voted for each other. There's like no transparency in that there's only 3 votes for so it was like we could tell who you voted for because no one else is voting for you? Um, so yeah I think that.

57:23.00
youcantcompthis
Ah, maybe maybe Brooke Lopez voted for him as like part of the joke. Yeah.

57:26.61
Aidos
Ah, ah, possibly possibly? Um, but he might have heard of his brother. You know, Um, ah, um, but yeah, so look I think the safest option would be I'd be choosing the lebron.

57:31.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah, no one voted for Robin.

57:43.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah, okay.

57:45.35
Aidos
Um, um, was the yanis was Janis is rookie. We just say 2013 yeah okay or that might throw a bit of spanner and it works a bit but just I mean they got lither this year

57:52.45
youcantcompthis
It's rookie yet number to 10 Yeah, it's really hard isn't it. This is a repper this one? yeah.

58:04.15
Aidos
They've been pretty disappointing I think this year just from you know, keeping a close eye their games. They've lost them to some bad teams. Um, and I just I don't know if if Janis has another championship in coming up. His career at the box. So I to say but lebronze isn't the rookie is it? yeah.

58:34.34
youcantcompthis
It's that very classic chalk toss picture though that is it's an absolute beautiful card that 1

58:39.12
Aidos
Um, yeah I'm gone for the lebron and reckon I reckon just the collectibility um of that. Um, and yeah I think yeah, the lebron What do you chosen.

58:57.40
youcantcompthis
It look. It's very very difficult I feel like even ever been listening to you I'm sort of going back and forth. But I yeah I think that's where I'm I'm just going to walk with that because I think that's actually really important and.

59:04.58
Aidos
Put the RC shield on it by the yarnas. That's what.

59:15.90
youcantcompthis
He doesn't sign a lot and that's his.

59:20.86
Aidos
No, and most of most of his bookie stuff is stickers as well because because um, in that it.

59:24.65
youcantcompthis
And that's his old autograph that had maybe a little bit more Tlc put into it and then I mean definitely the sticker is a negative of that card. But at the same time.

59:31.86
Aidos
Definitely yeah.

59:36.36
Aidos
I Mean that's there's only like a handful of cards that buoant stickers and that ah I see him they're locked away deep in someone's collection in his collection. Definitely if you one or ones. Um, but yeah, but like yeah.

59:38.40
youcantcompthis
Yes.

59:43.99
youcantcompthis
Probably in his collection. Yeah.

59:54.39
Aidos
Bron has a few of his roie cars as any I guess 3 or 4 I think ah think I've seen footage of him mentioning it is but I think he it didn't take the while of signing them I think he might have bored them.

59:55.32
youcantcompthis
I I would not be surprised at all. Yeah.

01:00:08.45
youcantcompthis
Of course he did lebronze like literally the golden boys and he wouldn't do what Janis did and like pinch them.

01:00:16.25
Aidos
Just not just hand them back? Yes, so I Yeah yeah now I was just just going to reaffirm my point I reckon I'm ah probably leronn on that one.

01:00:18.78
youcantcompthis
The next one. Sorry after you.

01:00:26.55
youcantcompthis
Okay, our next card to talk about is a regmila downtown piece a 10 last sold for 1200 I think this is really interesting to me because it sold for $380 just three years ago. So it's. Gone up, you know, dramatically look I think my very short and sweet line on this is that caseids are important and obviously you know some caseids are more important than others. But I think downtown and comboms are going to be a very very good long-term purchase and I think this is just really the market getting to where it needs to be like. Frankly I actually think this is still cheap at that price I think that's a really good buy yeah, it's a very shrewd purchase. Yeah.

01:01:09.68
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, it. it's um it's interesting so I've got a Ps a 8 um first year Lebron caoo um, and. So those but those prices went way down. They probably went down to maybe 1800 roughly seventeen hundred usd I bought it raw and got it graded so I was hoping for a little bit of a better grade. But that's all, um, and so just watching those prices just because yeah.

01:01:30.25
youcantcompthis
Did you buy it before it went down or after yeah, yeah.

01:01:44.37
Aidos
After I got it graded I was looking all the time to find it but they they actually don't come up for sale that often. Um, and I've got it priced on ebay at the moment in my store for a ridiculous amount because I don't really want to sell it. Um, but if someone comes along and goes have it for this price. A lot sure.

01:01:47.65
youcantcompthis
Yes.

01:01:54.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

01:02:01.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:03.87
Aidos
Fine, um, but those because I think I've spoken to you about this before like I feel like especially that first year it's sort of like the the pmg of um. Our generation I guess they're like ah I don't think that year had the number to 10 but you know this year did um and when they do that it sort of feels like that's the green and these ones are the red style. So and I think you know I bought that thinking first year

01:02:29.12
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:38.51
Aidos
That'll be I'll just keep that for a long time and.

01:02:42.40
youcantcompthis
I'm surprised you're even taking offers on a to honest I feel like that's the type of thing you put into a vault I mean I agree you like p a it's not the desirable outcome but I would also say to it doesn't matter like how many of those cards are there have you have you looked into the pop on it.

01:02:52.85
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. So there's a guy on Instagram I forget his name but shout out to him. He does like a lot of like retroactive. Um.

01:03:09.56
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

01:03:10.69
Aidos
Pop counts or print print runs for cards and so he put it at it sort of like it's probably between I think it was 9125 roughly for those that first year Kabo um, and I think every year since then he's sort of.

01:03:17.52
youcantcompthis
Really. Right? and.

01:03:28.48
Aidos
Worked at around that hundred mark um felt for each player so you know what for I've sort of looked through um, a few different things and like generally it's.

01:03:29.32
youcantcompthis
Right? So do you do you think that his numbers are reliable.

01:03:46.58
Aidos
Positive feedback from everyone on his page and whether that's just a confirmation bias I'm not too sure but um, trying to find out how many boxes remained from a 2013 product for that innovations.

01:04:05.42
Aidos
Ah, maybe I'll send you a link of the actual rundown because off the top of my head I can't remember it and see how it came up with that number. Um.

01:04:14.36
youcantcompthis
So the the two things I'll add to this and I'm not disagreeing with these numbers without seeing them like I I wouldn't do that but in my head this is where I'm at I thought around the sort of the 2017 Mark we were around population total population. 75 to 100. That's what I thought ah maybe the point of difference where I've got with this gentleman is that I think the population. So if he thinks that that year was a hundred and let's say that's accurate. Okay, so and I I probably think he's right.

01:04:35.72
Aidos
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:04:48.76
Aidos
Um.

01:04:53.70
youcantcompthis
Because I'm probably giving panini too much credit in keeping the numbers down too low what I probably think but what I would disagree with is I think every year the population's gone up because they're printing more product every year like we know that. But I mean we I mean we know that now like we and we know that in the last twelve months they've just doubled the print run of blast. It's like ah.

01:05:04.52
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

01:05:13.51
youcantcompthis
You know what? I mean so if they're doing that like so if there was a hundred back then maybe there's 200 now

01:05:16.20
Aidos
Yeah, so I guess ah I guess the argument that I would say or not an argument just another point to add to that is they don't necessarily need to increase the print run of a particular card. They can just add another player. Yeah.

01:05:23.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:05:32.64
Aidos
That add 1 more player that's a hundred more and add another player. Yeah yeah, so it's not so that's a hundred per per player. Um, so if they add another person in that's you know a hundred more cases.

01:05:34.72
youcantcompthis
There's many. There's many different ways they can increase print run. Yeah yeah, yeah, another hundred cases. Yeah.

01:05:47.58
Aidos
Then add another one in so itd be interesting to look at a timeline of how many players were in that first one. So I don't think there was that many there was kd Steph Curry um and a few I can't remember off the top of my head but um, yet to be interesting how many players I've added in sort of those.

01:05:51.94
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

01:06:07.20
Aidos
Those years because I think when they first came out, they weren't a popular card. You could get a lebron kaboon for like fifty bucks

01:06:17.61
youcantcompthis
That's so wild isn't it how many would you buy now for $50 you know yeah

01:06:17.66
Aidos
And yeah, so I'm just ah which are all of them. Yeah, and it's just like even thinking about that. So bringing it back to that tops now card that so if that was an option. When Lebron was a rookie. There was 189 numbered cards with Theronnze autograph with the rookie logo like without inflation like would people be paying two thousand two hundred and fifty dollars for that. So.

01:06:49.22
youcantcompthis
Without inflation and.

01:06:51.29
Aidos
Ah, so dark is I think those cards sort of were selling for but even his rpas were like know, not not that much when they first came out people.

01:07:03.39
youcantcompthis
I think without inflation the answer is no but I think if you are keeping in mind if you account for inflation I think the answer would be yes because he what he also need to put into your mathematics is he's been in the league now for 20 years

01:07:07.00
Aidos
Oh so with it with so yeah, with inflation. Sorry yeah, yeah, would people be spending more would it if it was like 5000? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so let's say matching inflation. So let's just say whatever the problem. Whatever 2200 is now then would people be spending that would people spend double would you know.

01:07:22.45
youcantcompthis
So we're talking about 20 years of inflation right.

01:07:31.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:38.40
Aidos
It'd just be interesting to see what the comparison would be I'm going to go after this I'm going to go and find out what two thousand two hundred and fifty dollars is in 2003 yeah yeah yeah

01:07:38.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah John O Michaelchaels can probably help us with the mass on this to be honest, yeah, all right? Can we just really do some quick hitting stuff. Are you? Okay, with that all right? So these are just some players that I've had my eye on you know, recently that have.

01:07:51.71
Aidos
Cool, Yeah man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:58.55
youcantcompthis
Just come to you know I've been thinking about so I think Brandon Mill is the big one I think he's been the the biggest winner of Charlotte doing the right thing and blowing their team up in the month of January rookie of the month sixteen points a game 4.1 rebounds 2 point 4 assist look not mind blowing numbers. But.

01:08:08.49
Aidos
Um, yeah.

01:08:17.62
youcantcompthis
In comparison to where he started the year you know it didn't look good at the start of the year and to be honest I was pretty nervous for Charlotte Vance to be honest, but I think he's coming ah along really nicely and he is learning the pro game and his adjustments have been profound I think that's the best way to say it? yeah.

01:08:18.64
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

01:08:35.56
Aidos
Definitely so I think in in that in January he had a few games where he scored like 30 odd points and so those numbers probably don't give a true. It's sort of a screenshot of where he's been um in those like showout games.

01:08:49.79
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:08:51.53
Aidos
Where where he's just performed you know above and beyond um, and I had him for rooking the year actually at the start just because I thought that Wendy probably would meet those game requirements. Um, but yeah, he ended up. Um, if Brenan Miller was injured for a little while wasn't he yeah yeah, so um, let's take him out of that. But.

01:08:59.51
youcantcompthis
Yes. Yeah, yeah.

01:09:11.20
Aidos
Yeah I think he's interesting and I think I think what will happen again I did say before that people might hoard this product of of the ah prism stuff but on the other hand if people are going to rip so much of this stuff to looking for Wembbys that. Think there will be a lot of other cards just available probably people won't bother getting graded and be available for raw Purchase. So I think that would be something to look into.

01:09:38.25
youcantcompthis
Definitely I think a hundred percent yeah so he silver raws are selling for one hundred and twenty two and one hundred and twenty seven usd is at a buy hold or sell for you in that space.

01:09:46.50
Aidos
And.

01:09:54.34
Aidos
Ah, for this so Silver Raw Ah probably to be honest I'll probably wait to the offseason I'll just wait for people to open a lot more product watch these prices drop a little bit.

01:09:56.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:10:09.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:10:11.44
Aidos
And then possibly you have your pick of you know if you're integrating look for one that's centered well you know possibly you can get some more picks of you know surface and all that kind of stuff. Um.

01:10:19.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that to me is very surprising kind of be honest with you and again you know I'm trying to find like the silver lining here I think this is the Hobby is quite healthy at the moment you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:31.50
Aidos
Um, definitely I think I think I didn't expect it to be that high, especially after missing you know, quite a chunk from um, being injured but um.

01:10:40.20
youcantcompthis
I Think there's a lot of excitement about this prism coming out this you know current crop. Yeah um.

01:10:45.49
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, definitely. But I think I think that's a ah but not many people are holding these at the moment. So I think it's just a maybe a weight or weight. Yeah, um.

01:10:51.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah, the other person I think is super cool at the moment for Charlotte is his meic rookie who came across in the Thunder trade 30 year old rookie I don't think he has any hobby relevance at all I just wanted to talk about him to say super cool. So league pass. Charlotte Hornets check them out. Yeah.

01:11:11.37
Aidos
Yeah, so I was looking so he had quite the game the other day 1818 points 9 assists 4 rebounds. It's interesting.

01:11:22.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he's he's he's a really good point god the my comparison for him is actually um, Mark Jackson remember that coach and he used to just back people down all the time with that sort of like you know, massive like but he's. He kind of like gives me those vibes sometimes to be honest, yeah.

01:11:42.35
Aidos
Yeah, interesting. so he's so I wonder if would he be know'd be too young to have played with Yorkish for servia. So because you actually Howards your she's 34 something. Let never? yeah.

01:12:02.28
youcantcompthis
Um, think they definitely would have played together if he's 30

01:12:09.70
Aidos
Out of acknowledge. How old do you think Yourage is.

01:12:13.28
youcantcompthis
I would say message is 30 yeah 27 twenty eight yeah

01:12:18.19
Aidos
And message is 30 how old do you think you are Kitchens there's 28 I thought he was way older than that for some reason anyway. But yeah, no, it's um, it is interesting to see these guys pop out of nowhere and just.

01:12:31.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, all right one on my strong by at the moment is Jonathan Kominga so silver raw Seventeen Point Five Forty Nine 15 twenty five 27 21 twenty nine on and on it sort of goes in that up and down range. So I'll just put that down to.

01:12:33.88
Aidos
Quite play. Well.

01:12:51.60
youcantcompthis
Centering good centering bad. You know, simple as that PA 10 to 187 so I think you know if we're comparing. Let's just do a really quick comp between Brandon Miller and Commingo um, his raws are selling at 122 and you can get a PA 10 4 187 look

01:12:52.85
Aidos
Yeah.

01:13:01.20
Aidos
M.

01:13:09.78
youcantcompthis
Honestly I think Kuminga is ah absolute homerun at the moment his last 15 games. Twenty one point five point six rebounds 2.8 a 6 so nearly three assists a game. He you can't say that he saved a golden state warriors season because that's steph carry that's done that. But. I think without contributions like this and I think this also sort of fits into the grand planet the warriors front office had of somehow having these high draft picks and this like aging veteran team and then the old legs would get a bit tired. The young legs would come through and look they haven't had a great draft history and.

01:13:42.84
Aidos
Marrying them together.

01:13:48.62
youcantcompthis
You know, moody and weismsman probably haven't panned out exactly where they you know were expecting them to but I think Kuminga has just been an absolute home Runn and I'm really really high on this kid. Yeah.

01:13:53.64
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

01:14:01.10
Aidos
Yeah, especially with him getting more game time. Um I think it's quite interesting and to see um clay coming off. The bench is interesting as well.

01:14:17.60
youcantcompthis
Look. It's really sad to like watch a dynasty die and I think it's been hard to watch Clay Thompson you know gone through what he has but at the same time I'm also equal parts proud of him that he's coming off the bench. He's not complaining. He's just he's speaking openly about.

01:14:18.54
Aidos
Um, the.

01:14:32.33
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

01:14:35.85
youcantcompthis
Transitioning into the next phase of his career and he's been talking about have you heard this stuff when he's been speaking about Reggie Miller and Ray Allen it's it's really really interesting stuff. It's like it's just fascinating and to hear the sort of the words come out of his mouth.

01:14:43.47
Aidos
Nah No, but I.

01:14:53.71
youcantcompthis
I Feel like he's put so much thought into this like and he's almost you know, put it to bed that you know he's an old star Now you know I think that's really I think if something gives him the chance to win I feel. It's that type of you know change in mentality and you know and change in Behavior. So. Actually gives me a lot of positivity for the worries to be honest, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:12.21
Aidos
Yeah, yeah, but um, well so back to Jonathan Caing I think I'd be buying that pair I'd be buying that pairs eight then ahead of ah a raw or I'd be trying to scoop up. You know those high priced silvers.

01:15:18.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah yeah.

01:15:29.44
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:15:30.80
Aidos
Hoping that surface issues and things like that. Um, but you know you talk about grading fee wait time all that kind of stuff. Um on top of those raw prices as well and then hoping for a 10 I think that one eighty seven looks quite appeally.

01:15:48.60
youcantcompthis
It's not too bad. Is it really a look down thinking about the way times with this guy I don't think he's a quick flip. You know I think and particularly the way he's playing now and I the other thing I just to add to this too I don't think.

01:15:49.63
Aidos
Okay. Now no.

01:16:02.70
youcantcompthis
We're probably emphasize how hard it is for a young player to break into such an excellent veteran team and that's the other thing too like he's playing good basketball on ah you know on a they're not a very good team but they're currently playing very good basketball So you know where I'm going with this I think.

01:16:14.93
Aidos
Yeah.

01:16:19.30
youcantcompthis
You know these are real stats. These aren't you know Jordan pool stats on the wizards. Yeah.

01:16:21.31
Aidos
Yeah, that is um, he's been going Well um, and yeah, he's interested I think of might have a few trying comming I'd asked to have a look. They're not definitely not graded. Um, but it might be something to look into.

01:16:38.90
youcantcompthis
I Think it's time to send some stuff to p a with comming as if you got them honestly I think he's transitioned into that like next step for me. Yeah.

01:16:40.68
Aidos
Um, I Yeah I haven't said anything for a while but a big batch sort of waiting to go that. Um, yeah, maybe I'll just chip away it send a few. Um, every now and then because slabs just down the road for me. That's where I go to get the cards done I Genuinely do yeah um, and so yeah I think I have to get working on that file sooner rather later. But um, yeah.

01:17:03.40
youcantcompthis
You just walk down on your lunch break dropped the man. Yeah.

01:17:18.99
Aidos
So what next to do last one.

01:17:19.37
youcantcompthis
Last one Killian Hayes was waved number 7 pick in the 2020 draft I'm going to rag on Troy Weaver here a little bit Troy Weaver is the current Gm of the pistons and that was his first draft choice that he made so. Can say I need to give the guy some cut some slack or whatever. Um, or you can use this as a case study into like Troy Wea's you know, professional career because the way he's throwing Killian Hayes under the bus like coming out with quote saying that he tried to sit Killian down and talk to him about. Improving shooting and the reason why hasn't succeeded in the league is because of his shooting like I really think that's such a horrible way to try and save your own like but for picking the wrong person at number 7 and look if Killian Hayes was the number 15 to the 16 pick. We wouldn't be having this conversation and. I actually think he's a really you know, nice prospect and if he doesn't make it in the league. It's more likely because he was so badly damaged in his time for the Detroit pistons you know? Yeah, so the question I want to pose to you is what teams should pick this kid up because I think he should be picked up and I actually think.

01:18:28.68
Aidos
Definitely.

01:18:36.34
youcantcompthis
15 teams off the top of my head that should take a flyer on him. So I want to hear your thoughts on this.

01:18:44.38
Aidos
Um, Killian Hayes is he the one that Adam always rags on about how he's still in the league. No ah right? probably? Yeah yeah, um.

01:18:49.54
youcantcompthis
Well Adam's friend al bought a fair bit of killing hay. So if he was ragy on. It's probably because of that. Yeah yeah.

01:19:01.41
Aidos
I'm going to be honest and I haven't really taken that much notice of him so to even choose the team. Um I wouldn't really yeah.

01:19:08.15
youcantcompthis
So I'll give you a quick rundown then he's a pretty big guard. Athletically he's like an Nba player. There's no troubles with that strengthwise. He's strong enough to compete with every single one in the league and probably 80% of the two like.

01:19:18.63
Aidos
Um, yeah.

01:19:27.54
youcantcompthis
Probably Anthony Edwards would muscle out muscle him a little bit but you know Edwards is a bit of a beast so ball handling is not fantastic. Passing is average and shooting as Troy Weaver said is you know is his weeks sp but look.

01:19:29.59
Aidos
Yeah.

01:19:41.45
Aidos
Not great who's got the best shooting who's got the best shooting coach go to the spurs.

01:19:47.15
youcantcompthis
The spurse. Yeah so I think that's ah like as bad as the spurs are that they should be looking to pick up young prospects basically for nothing I think the wizards should try and pick this kid up.

01:19:58.64
Aidos
Yeah, that but it's well, it's definitely sort of those bottom level teams you know trying to pick up plays for cheat. Um, yeah, yeah.

01:20:05.62
youcantcompthis
The hornets just cut Book nine and I think reading about that that seems more about his behavior and his legal issues than anything else are the Toronto raptors I think he would fit into that big.

01:20:14.27
Aidos
And social aspects of yeah.

01:20:24.50
youcantcompthis
Switching defensive schemes they like to run like actually I think he would fit in with them quite well I don't think the nets have got any space for him I think the Hawks could use another young kid. You know that teams in a bit of flux at the moment and then the other one that I think would actually be quite useful is the heat I think bringing someone in with talent.

01:20:38.29
Aidos
Yeah, yeah.

01:20:42.73
youcantcompthis
Into a team that's got very good culture. Got very good coaching in place got very good ethics in place I think he would just be like a really good pickup because they've turned plays with much less talent than him into excellent and Nba players I think.

01:20:56.78
Aidos
Yeah, absolutely.

01:21:00.75
youcantcompthis
Think about like Cody Martin like that's ridiculous. What that guy's doing now.

01:21:05.70
Aidos
Yeah, they've been interesting the last few games they've been winning a few Tai ones? Um, which generally they're on the opposite end of that. So whether it's that just right type of season to be building towards something but yeah, picking up a play like that. Um.

01:21:07.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:21:22.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah, in the west I'm going nuggets Lakers spurs. Yeah, honestly, yeah.

01:21:22.38
Aidos
Definitely just strengthen you know strengthen? yeah.

01:21:40.23
Aidos
Yeah.

01:21:42.93
youcantcompthis
It's I don't know I think he needs to get picked up asap.

01:21:45.25
Aidos
Yeah, yeah Troy and Troy waiver needs to work on this to take responsibility for his bad choice if that's what he thinks anyway I think the buck stops with the Usg and you can't pass it on to a plane that you've waveived.

01:21:47.35
youcantcompthis
All right.

01:21:56.17
youcantcompthis
Ah, let's yeah.

01:22:02.80
youcantcompthis
I Think that's a bad way to release a kid to to honest, yeah, final thoughts. What do you got for me.

01:22:03.78
Aidos
Um, anyway, yeah, yeah, um, final thoughts. It's getting light on tv of the row. But um, final thoughts is I think. Instead of paying eight hundred and ninety dollars into a case break of blasters for a wemby card to save up for that tops now auto release I think.

01:22:33.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah, great I Think that's a perfect way to end the show. Thanks everyone for listening take it easy. Don't go are you gonna say goodbye.

01:22:37.60
Aidos
And.

01:22:48.40
Aidos
Ah, do I'm going to say goodbye. Okay, all right? um all right? Russ thanks for having me as a guest on the you can comp this podcast and thanks everyone for listening.

01:22:49.50
youcantcompthis
You say Goodbye not edited the entire.

01:23:01.70
youcantcompthis
Cheers made I'm gonna end it but don't go. It has to upload first.

01:23:04.53
Aidos
Okay, are our.