Episode 132: PSA buys SGC, Prizm, Victor Wembanyama vs The Field,

Episode 132: Adam and Russell plow through a huge sheet that includes

- PSA Purchases SGC
- Poku back in the league
- Herb Jones is making huge progress
- Slam Box Advertisement
- Victor vs the field
- Lebron vs Kawhi Leonard
- WNBA Draft, Gold /10  Maya Moore, WNBA blank slate #1  and blank slate 2.
- Happy Birthday Modern Goat
- Zion vs Haliburton
- Ebay tips
- Thoughts on the hobby
- Bang Man Advertisement
- Hoops Giannis Comp: BGS 10 Pop 1
- Prizm Hobby vs FOTL

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Transcript

00:01.16
Adz
We'll find out.

00:13.98
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 132 of the you can't comp this Mba trading card podcast where your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson it's ah a lot happening in the league at the moment is that is that a good good.

00:30.78
youcantcompthis
We just potted feels like three days ago and I think I always worry its very short interval. We're not going to have enough to talk about and then we've got a fuller run sheet than we had on Sunday. So yeah, there's always something he happened.

00:30.87
Adz
Place to sort of start.

00:37.60
Adz
M.

00:43.18
Adz
The the docket is chockers.

00:49.70
youcantcompthis
There is always something happening and whether it's people making controversy in post companies buying out other companies players doing crazy stuff. There's always something to talk about. So I think.

00:55.89
Adz
Yeah, but where at we post all star now now stuff's starting to get real. We're talking about the the playoffs are just around the corner. Yeah releases.

01:07.64
youcantcompthis
I Feel like old stars just a a blipep on my radio on my radar that just went by and but sort of went away with a whimper or not even a whimper.

01:16.42
Adz
It's a marker for when the season gets interesting. Oh if they don't fix it next year no one's going to put it in their calendar. It's ridiculous. Um, yeah I think.

01:24.00
youcantcompthis
No yeah.

01:30.16
Adz
I Think we're at the interesting end of the season and not only in the actual season itself I mean I'm I'm talking product releases like last last episode where like it's all about prism still about Prism Prism is in the air. Yeah.

01:42.33
youcantcompthis
I think we can still talk a bit more about prism I think that's okay court Kings did drop in the last week though and that looks pretty good. But I still think at the end of the day I think when we look back at this year I think prism is going to be the product that matters the most. So.

01:51.95
Adz
Yep.

02:01.23
Adz
Interesting. It's still it's still the um, the flagship product I guess.

02:01.45
youcantcompthis
We give that a bit more runtime. I think flagship but also just for the fact that he's not signing anything. Yeah.

02:09.10
Adz
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

02:13.18
youcantcompthis
So just really quickly segueing before we even get into the run sheet one of the lads I go to the gym with is a bit of a sports nut so I was saying they need $25000000 to fix the.

02:16.55
Adz
I haven't even introduced the show in West segue.

02:28.23
Adz
Yep.

02:32.51
youcantcompthis
All-star game and then it'll happen. He thinks $50000000 is the number and that you could easily raise $50000000 through some type of sponsorship.

02:44.90
Adz
I'm I'm in agreement.

02:49.94
Adz
I'm in agreement I think I think money talks and $50000000 will instead devise some players to actually play some defense.

02:54.60
youcantcompthis
Yes, right? like $50000000 between 12 dudes. You can't tell me that they wouldn't turn up and play 85%

03:02.23
Adz
I have a theory that Nikcola yokitch doesn't actually care all Luca Dontage for that matter. He was an absolute beast in the regular like straight out of did yokitch have like ah a triple double with 100% from the field.

03:20.79
youcantcompthis
Do you mean in the last 5 vricular season games or do you mean in the all-star game.

03:24.42
Adz
Post allstar game like he did nothing in the allstar game. He was flopping around in him and Luca just yeah, like that bit bit paully like they didn't care and they didn't play defense they didn' play offense. They just didn't care. Um, but then coming regular season. Both of them have been.

03:30.73
youcantcompthis
Playing Horse boy.

03:37.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah, all right? should we get to it? yeah.

03:43.45
Adz
Beasts. Um, yeah, yeah, let's get to the run sheet before we we get segwayed outside of our segways. It's good. It's it's okay, we're back on track.

03:53.14
youcantcompthis
That's okay, we're we only se waited for 3 minutes that's far that's nothing all right. Psa have bought s gc where are you out with this is a good bad like.

04:05.44
Adz
I I I I it's not as big a change I guess as as it's not like they've bought something that's that makes up 30% of the market share they have 78% of the market they bought like. 1 of the next people in line. So now they have 85% cool eventually, they'll have ninety. It's a monopoly already like I don't know.

04:39.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

04:41.92
Adz
But it's I don't know the the fact of it if it's problematic. It's already been problematic if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, the market share side of it I think is already.

04:51.70
youcantcompthis
Do you mean in terms of them having a market share or a yeah.

04:59.61
Adz
If it's problematic if it was problematic at 78% buying sgc is is definitely not um the thing that's going to move it into being problematic. Um, what are your thoughts.

05:12.18
youcantcompthis
Okay, so I'm gonna start with nat turner so he made this very let's call it a flippant comment and let's say in a cup half full. It's flippant and car half empty. It's arrogant that he got bored and then he. Bought sgc and I think for people of my generation. The the lyrical comparison to that is when ice Cube is saying he's like gets bored and like drops a triple double right? like I think that's the same I feel like he's tapping into some ice cube there. So like my issue with that is that.

05:43.85
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

05:50.21
youcantcompthis
He's so powerful in this league or in this working space that he can literally just get bored and then buy out his you know next biggest competitor and you know I think really for me the analogy here or like the the thought that's coming to my head is is this the way that the hobby is going so there's going to be someone who monopolizes grading. Going to be somebody who monopolizes car production like in being fanatics and then we've got someone who's going to be monopolizing the breakkespace. So whether that's going to be backyard breaks or whether it's going to be fanatics live or there it's going to be. You know both of those 2 together and so. You can argue in a way already ebay has the monopoly on like the secondary market sales space and then you could say well Com C has the the monopoly of that sort of like singles loose singles and stuff like that. So you know the real question is is then.

06:39.78
Adz
Yeah.

06:44.61
youcantcompthis
Is that a good thing for the Hobby or is it a bad thing for a Hobby. So for me I think competition is good because it really forces people to be innovative and it also forces. You know some level of transparency and I think also too it sort of avoids malaise and that's the big thing. So if. Psa now owns what 90% of the market or you know higher than 90%. You know who's the watchdog that's going to regulate them and you know push them to you know, make sure that things are transparent and make sure that they do you know rectify mistakes I suppose.

07:19.29
Adz
Yeah.

07:21.89
youcantcompthis
And I probably don't like that part of it now in saying that if those companies now worked together collaboratively. So for example, we spoke about this the other day Backyard breaks is breaking at headquarters of Psa they're getting their cards out.

07:36.14
Adz
Ahead.

07:39.69
youcantcompthis
And 30 minutes they're walking it back. It's a ps a 10 So if there's some type of collaboration between backyard breaks fanatics and psa like that you know that makes like common sense that that to me kind of I get that but I suppose that's for me is probably the the.

07:40.56
Adz
Yeah.

07:56.38
youcantcompthis
Best thing I can think about this and most of it in my head is I'm just being probably a little bit pessimistic at this stage I will say this So like my other thought about this is you know why didn't they buy at bgs. Yeah, so maybe in their in their head and their metrics actually sgc is now you know well and truly overtaken that and.

08:02.49
Adz
Yeah, ah.

08:14.70
Adz
Has it competited up. Yeah, yeah for sure.

08:16.11
youcantcompthis
Spoken about this, you know that? yeah and in terms of the death of the slow death of bgs and we've we've talked about that you know more than once. So I think this for me is like another hospital admission for the sick and lowly bgs.

08:23.13
Adz
Yeah.

08:33.89
Adz
Thought that do yeah yeah, they're not, They're all looking great. Are they got it. It's interesting and I know you I'm everything's interesting to me at the moment. Um.

08:51.48
Adz
Do you think that there's going to be if the narrative changes with grading companies and looking at options and is there a point where peercea diversify the grading market again and. All of the little properties they own they start bringing up different branded grading companies. It's like everything's made by the Coca-cola company but you can get their their range of drinks is different so different grading companies. But it's all made Matt produced by. The Coca-cola company.

09:27.85
youcantcompthis
And that's probably something that you've spoken about in the past is about regulation isn't it. So if that is the case that psa owns them all and then regulates them all and make sure that they do grade to a so you know certain quality again I'm trying to look at this from the cup half full perspective. You know that would be a really good thing and.

09:34.78
Adz
Ah.

09:41.58
Adz
Yeah.

09:47.27
youcantcompthis
This is something that I've said before and I'm going to double down on this I Really do think that these smaller grading companies that are coming out their highest potential is that they would be bought out by a bigger company. So whether it was going to be bgs or psa so you know I think.

09:58.48
Adz
Yeah.

10:04.10
youcantcompthis
For me. That's like the other you know, really interesting part here I sort of assumed that sgc was too big to be bored out and I thought maybe someone like forensic might get bored out or maybe someone like Hga might get bored out or you know maybe you you look at one of the Aussie guys and say okay.

10:15.41
Adz
Yeah.

10:21.96
youcantcompthis
Don't even know if platinum's around anymore I haven't seen their advertisements for a really long time but let's just throw that name out into the ring. Hypothetically this is not factual by any means now they've got a grading station in Australia and they can then regulate that they can put their psa labels on them and. Train up the guys to do that. You know I I sort of see like that being as a benefit but.

10:47.23
Adz
I'm checking to save Platinum is still around.

10:50.54
youcantcompthis
Look I think if I was a young entrepreneur and I was trying to break into the grading field. That's what I'd be doing I'd be trying to be basically established company. Be bought out by Pa So all I can say is by the way congratulations to sgc because I think it's okay to talk about this.

10:55.67
Adz
Oh.

11:08.44
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

11:10.21
youcantcompthis
It's okay to say they've made some money out of this and you know they've done well like they've probably set their families up for you know 1 2 3 generations you know? So I think that's a fantastic thing so look. That's my final thought on that I'm not going to go on on this too much longer.

11:16.56
Adz
Yeah.

11:24.95
Adz
No, no, no look I think it's um I don't know I think you're right about about regulation. Ah, and I think the psa is very well is is the most reputable. Greater in in the hobby. But with all that power is the temptation to to reduce your standards does that does that creep in somewhere and I'd like to hope not.

11:54.17
youcantcompthis
I Think if their standards were going to be decreased I think we would have already seen it and I think you know we already hear about people complaining but look I've sent some absolute lemons off that have come back terrible and is that Psa's fault that I sent off lemons. Absolutely not and then.

12:00.10
Adz
Ah.

12:07.89
Adz
Yeah.

12:13.40
youcantcompthis
I've sort of heard people who do bulk subs anecdotally say 99.9 percent of the time they look at the cards and the grade looks right to them too and they after a period of time if you're subbing thousands and thousands of cars. They relatively know what's what's what right? you know? so.

12:28.14
Adz
Yeah.

12:32.53
youcantcompthis
Look Yeah I'm sure all grady companies get it wrong at some point. But yeah.

12:39.14
Adz
Yeah, but well look look 85% are not ah, not a small portion of the market they already had over 75 so look. It's it. Yeah yeah, look and I think we all base our comparisons on psa grades and there's a reason we do that. So.

12:47.20
youcantcompthis
It's ridiculous. It honestly is it's yeah, that's.

12:54.90
Adz
I Still think there is a place because of the quality of bgs be. You're right I think it's It's a it's a struggle at the moment to to put any real any real um stock in in Bgs I think Psa is yeah.

13:08.90
youcantcompthis
If these guys if these guys close up shop I won't be shocked if bgs closes up shop now I would not be shocked at all like I almost could imagine them saying like what's the point now. What.

13:14.54
Adz
No, no yeah. Yeah, it be it'd be probably more financially viable for them to partner with psa and become and become part of the the monopoly because there are people that like the the labels the the actual presentation of the card. So if Psa offers that as part of their.

13:27.90
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, definitely like yeah.

13:38.86
Adz
Yeah, yeah, they they they regulate all of the grading services and that could yeah create different prices, different different services etc could be. Ah yeah, you're right, Let's let's try and keep a glass half full.

13:42.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

13:54.69
Adz
Approach at this stage is I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of people with a lot of very shocked responses but we will will see how it all unfolds.

14:06.28
youcantcompthis
All alrighty the next two things in the run sheett. Ah I'm not going to lie to you that all about Russell so um, pokachesky from the. Oklahoma city thunder this is someone that I've been absolutely just drooling over the last couple of years. There's just some people that I just love this sort of combination of like this guy just looks freakish in a good way. You know to begin with and I love his skillset where he can just kind of do a little bit of everything and.

14:31.65
Adz
Ah.

14:37.70
youcantcompthis
I also find him a little bit underwhelming but then he will surprise you and just do all sorts of crazy stuff so now look he's still only 22 years of age and he's been cut and I don't think this is the first time a good young prospect is going to be cut from okayc so for me, this is just like the beginning of you know things to come. Really interesting conspiracy theory as you know I love conspiracy theory so the thunder and hornets did a trade and I wonder if they wanted pokachesky put into the deal but they couldn't get him and part of the deal was.

14:55.89
Adz
Yep.

15:12.30
youcantcompthis
The Thunder would cut him and then they could pick him up. Nothing to support this other than my conspiracy theory mind God's got some legs I say yeah, look this So He's officially being picked up I couldn't find anything about contract length or anything like that. But he's.

15:16.53
Adz
Ah, ah.

15:20.79
Adz
That's a great conspiracy theory I like it I've I'm all alright it I reckon you might you might be onto something so is he being picked up is he being picked up by the hornets taie.

15:36.30
youcantcompthis
Going to be signing with them so he's not coming off waivers he'll actually have a free agent contract with them. He hasn't appeared in any games I couldn't find anything on basketball reference to say that he's played basically since the middle of February so I can't wait to see him suited up I think he's going to be awesome in that team and you know.

15:39.37
Adz
Nice.

15:52.20
Adz
Oh.

15:53.97
youcantcompthis
Again, this is like my other sort of like Russell theory. It's all about opportunity in this league. So if this guy comes back and averages say 12 points for rebounds for assist I won't be shocked at all by this. He's I love his skill set. It's super varied and and interesting. So.

16:01.82
Adz
Yeah.

16:12.40
Adz
Yeah I'm I'm glad hopefully poku gets a um, a lifeline and did you know just a quick random at random fact that um, that the Charlotte hornets have become the best defense in the league over the last 5 games or 6 games. Since the allstar break or whatever it was so since the trade deadline random facto read on the internet that they've got they've had the best defense.

16:30.46
youcantcompthis
So So so I wouldn't deny that fact, but what I would say about the horn I've actually watched more hornets and I should be admitting to after that trade. I would say that's very small sample size and I probably suspect that their defensive prowess just might be yeah but just also improved just on a small sample size right? So I think as you multiply that out. Yeah, it'll get worse. Well, That's what I was going to say but I think offensively is where there also.

16:52.70
Adz
Energy of new guys getting together 6 games. Yeah, they got 5 and 1

17:05.94
youcantcompthis
Going to be giving teams a bit of a problem at the start because there's no scouting report on these combinations that's going out right? So essentially teams are playing as some blind like they don't know where the covers or where to send the coverage and stuff. So.

17:11.45
Adz
True true. ah ah I was about to get stuck into the hornets and gun even their tanking is poor if they were gotten 5 and one recently.

17:22.63
youcantcompthis
No, but no, but the really funny thing with teams like this that essentially are um egalitarian where everyone's having equal opportunities like actually that sometimes is very difficult to guard and one of my favorite all time teams is the Olando magic team that had Matt Harring

17:30.57
Adz
Ah.

17:39.78
youcantcompthis
Beau outlaw Darryl Armstrong They had a couple of other guys Michael Doac was there and that was before like Tmac went and Grant Hill and they were just like they doc coached them I'm pretty sure they made the playoffs and they were just good across the board but not great. Yeah.

17:46.70
Adz
Yeah.

17:57.47
youcantcompthis
This hornets team can't compare them. But there's some comparisons there you know? So yeah, all right now this next one I'm just totally froffing over. Okay, so and this is the.

18:01.31
Adz
Yeah.

18:12.98
youcantcompthis
The best and the worst about Twitter so Twitter becomes an echo chamber and I've just entered into my own echo chamber I'm fully aware of this but I don't care I'm still froffing Herb Jones catch and shoot 3 so 21 22 35% at 2.1 attempts per game. 22 23 33 % on 2.5 attempts 23 24 42 nearly 43% at three point four attempts so essentially that's now elite 3 point shooting we already know he's an old defense player. So put those 2 together. You've got your 3 and d now.

18:32.18
Adz
M.

18:46.73
Adz
3 and a.

18:49.80
youcantcompthis
This is where I get super interesting. So this is from at Mba University if you do not follow these guys. Do yourself a favor. It's fun, factual information and it's.

18:59.89
Adz
The snake.

19:03.16
youcantcompthis
Generally um, they use advanced stats but they explain it for people like me that don't understand advanced stats. So it's very good Herb Jones has a 78.2 effective field goal percentage on catch and shoot field goal attempts over the last fifteen games

19:20.15
youcantcompthis
Turning himself into a guy. You can't leave open anymore massive stride for his development as a 3 and d star role player. So that's sort of just reinforcing the numbers. We just looked at and then the other thing that really came into my head in this last week so the the pelicans have been suspension riddled injury riddled and he's played. Point guard for them and starting point guard and he played really? Well so turns out that when he was in high school and even a pinch in college. He played point guard. So like you get like I was already high on this kid. So now I'm just absolutely frothing now.

19:45.83
Adz
Yeah.

19:52.16
Adz
Who.

19:56.18
youcantcompthis
For me this is like the other really interesting part right? So then you go on to one thirty point so a silver psa nine sold for Ninety nine cents a raw sold for two fifty a select autograph sold for $7 and twenty cents usd

20:05.70
Adz
Yep.

20:14.10
youcantcompthis
Ah, silver sold for a dollar another silver sold for ninety nine cents like it just goes on and on like this an optic silver rookie sold for a cent. Um I honestly think.

20:22.40
Adz
Opportunity much I keep looking at the standing as and seeing New Orleans in like fifth or sixth in the and I'm just like oh my god like how did they get there. What are they doing I'm not paying any attention to New Orleans

20:33.74
youcantcompthis
So like.

20:39.94
Adz
No offense to the to the pelicans. But.

20:40.33
youcantcompthis
No, that's totally fine. But so so where I'm going with this is not only do I think this could be a quick flip I Also think this could be a really good long-term hold because so.

20:51.79
Adz
Um.

20:53.97
youcantcompthis
Look maybe this is a good example. Maybe this is a bad one but I was thinking about this also during the week who is going to be the next Tyrese Halliburton that we knew he was good. Kind of all the signs were there but we were distracted by Darren Fox we were distracted by a lamelllo ball we were distracted by zion and jar.

21:00.94
Adz
M.

21:10.58
Adz
Yeah.

21:13.20
youcantcompthis
Actually it turns out from that crop halliburton is heads and shoulders above everybody right? and now his hobby values caught up with it. So I suppose what I'm trying to pitch here is this guy is not going to be tyres Halliburton right? but is he going to be the next guy that's going to step up and sort of feel that.

21:16.76
Adz
Yeah. Is there a upwards.

21:31.43
Adz
Yeah, is there potential for a a yeah Halliburton level spike I guess is that the.

21:33.40
youcantcompthis
Hobby Space look.

21:40.52
youcantcompthis
Maybe not halibur I need to temper my things here.

21:43.60
Adz
Jordan Paul Camp Thomas

21:49.80
youcantcompthis
Cam Thomas is probably better but I would say this is like I think more sustainable than Cam Thomas because well because Cam Thomas is like essentially one well very very onemensional but like what I'm pitching here is now like elite defense elite shooting that's that's done so he's ticked off 2 boxes.

21:55.70
Adz
Mack mclun. 1 dimensional. Yay.

22:06.30
youcantcompthis
So the question is can he play make and well yeah, he did and he actually did it pretty well for a couple of games. So look I think for a buck just don't drink a coffee for 1 or two days buy a couple of silvers and see where it goes honestly like yeah yeah, you could.

22:07.81
Adz
Yeah.

22:18.17
Adz
Yeah, you can't go wrong like we get you be like you just buy Jordan pools for $1000 each and that's a few coffees there are there are a few.

22:25.26
youcantcompthis
But then just sell them back to me at it come on mate there's still some traumatized people out there all righty I think we should do an advertisement break. Why don't we do that. So. I would like to do our first advertisement for our friends at slambox so now this is a paid advertisement but I would also just like to preface this with it I paid full retail for these and there's no reason to think that David gave me loaded boxes. So.

22:43.37
Adz
Galets.

23:00.28
youcantcompthis
But I think the reason why I wanted to do this segment is because this is their retail product. So David does a whole bunch of different products but 1 of them that he does is a retail product. It was $35 it was one card I I bought 2 and the first packet I got was a cade cunningham number to 10 a prismatic.

23:04.67
Adz
Yep.

23:19.30
youcantcompthis
It's not a rookie. It's an insert like yes I know all of that. But at the same time too I thought that was a very thoughtful card. The second one I got was a Devin Booker studio from 1617 and it was a game worn material in terms of the patch size I would call it a very. Generous but not a large patch so look I was I was happy I was very happy with with both of those. The other thing that he did recently was he's done a couple of these breaks. So don't quote me on all of the numbers but he did basically a national treasures repack the hit. The main hit out of that was a jaden ivy rpa and just the value across the spots in the boxes was excellent and then he did 1 for 1 and one two and and look I can't actually remember the hits I didn't write notes but the same thing the buyin was was very good and I would say his customers left from that.

23:57.30
Adz
Nice.

24:14.73
youcantcompthis
Even if they didn't hit I think they left pretty happy. So thank you slam box for your support. We really appreciate it. We hope this is something that's going to be ongoing and ah yeah David just keep up the great work with your products mate you're doing a really good job. So yeah, now this is an unpaid.

24:15.78
Adz
Class.

24:33.77
youcantcompthis
Advertisement so this is not an advertisement but this is something that I've had people dming me about this week so I want to talk about this. So go to David Adams go to the clearance section and just have a browse through it with their clearance section. It's essentially first in first serve. But here's a couple of things that I found.

24:47.79
Adz
Yeah.

24:52.67
youcantcompthis
Which I thought were interesting. 22 23 so we're talking banchero year chronicles draft picks blasters. So it's not the best product you might argue. It's not the best draft here $8 and eighty one cents usd for a blaster I think that's pretty fun.

25:05.14
Adz
Um, ah.

25:09.33
Adz
That is actually a lot of fun. That's huge fun. Yeah.

25:12.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah, like you know, pretty cool another one that I found this is not pocket change. This was one hundred and twenty seven usd but it's the lucky packet. So the lucky packets is literally a chinese lucky packet it comes in like red and it's got the ends put onto it. And then you've got 2 cards in there. They're both number to 8 8 being the lucky number. So if you're someone that doesn't like a whole bunch of base and you just want a couple of low numbered cards. That's your ticket there look I don't know what these were retailing for previously. But I want to go out on a limb and say around the four hundred to five hundred dollars mark they they were not cheap. Betra 22 23 Asia box for $64 usd I think that's pretty amazing then the last two I found was a select 21 22 blaster for twenty bucks and a 21 22 prism set's again cade rookie a blaster from prism. So.

25:59.32
Adz
Ah, 5 Yeah.

26:07.80
Adz
File.

26:10.78
youcantcompthis
Look is everything here going to be in your budget is everything here going to be what you're interested. Absolutely not but have a bit of a trawl through it because you know they basically just churn through this stock and then refill it back with other stuff too so bit of interesting.

26:22.17
Adz
Yeah, yeah, now that's um, worth having ah a bit of a look see.

26:29.87
youcantcompthis
So victor versus the field is our next point of conversation ad so.

26:38.11
Adz
He's been doing very well against the field recently on the court cheese.

26:44.98
youcantcompthis
Look a lot of these sales are currently unverified. We couldn't find them on card ladder and we couldn't find them on on one thirty point but it did take us a minute to find them but in saying that.

26:53.90
Adz
It was an it was a very interesting little bit of research though for sure.

27:02.74
youcantcompthis
I Don't think that means we can't talk about this because it to me This is sort of ah, did you my my.

27:03.22
Adz
No I found it on one thirty point yeah like I put the description from the from the first ebay auction you showed me.

27:10.60
youcantcompthis
Okay, okay, great that that actually makes our conversation even better than okay so the comps I've got and correct me where I'm wrong here for a ps a 10 silver victor webaana 2125 another one so of 2300 another 1 for 2275. So really in my head once you're over that $2000 Mark for a silver you're sort of moving into that rarefied air spot. So I didn't want this narrative to be people are crazy. People are jumping on the.

27:40.15
Adz
Nope.

27:46.43
youcantcompthis
You know the ship I didn't want to go down that way. I I honestly think these are all consenting adults if they want to put their money into this and they're enjoying it. They're having fun I say more power to them and it's as simple as that. What I do want to talk about those. Let's just say you have two thousand two hundred dollars what is the best buy you could do for that $2200 I know this is a very subjective conversation. But I thought it's the right conversation if you want to talk about Kobe's for 5 in ads that you can buy for two thousand um two thousand us by the way go nuts.

28:11.77
Adz
I thought I'd just go and look up Kobe's I'm like

28:22.64
Adz
Yeah I I just yeah, um, I've just started thinking ah straight off the bat I'm like all right Kobe Kobe rookie cards and I couldn't get 1 for 2000 because there was.

28:24.64
youcantcompthis
Go nuts in the in the lolly shop I say.

28:36.81
Adz
Four Thousand four hundred there's a a tops Chrome rookie PS a 10 but for well I was thinking I could buy 2 Kobe rookies I could get the um fleaer metal one thirty seven fresh foundations. Rookie p sa 10

28:39.72
youcantcompthis
Can you get a lower graded.

28:51.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah, cool.

28:55.80
Adz
for for 1100 and while I'm looking at the the 96 medal yeah I'll get a cyber medal Kobe Bryant rookie card for ah for 1300 us so that's that's two thousand four hundred but I could buy those psa 10

28:59.28
youcantcompthis
See you've still got some change right? yeah.

29:14.63
Adz
Kobe rookies. Um, yeah, yeah care I think that's it oh that's a really good question I actually don't have card ladder open. But yeah.

29:16.10
youcantcompthis
That's fine. That's fine because 304400 I think that's close enough for the conversation. What's the pop on those kobes ad.

29:30.43
youcantcompthis
That's okay, no problems.

29:34.56
Adz
Let's have a look see if I can find it on card Ladder Let's go on to the onto the ladder. It's different when we go from there. We go can be bryant.

29:51.83
Adz
Ah, fine nu doesn't want to there. It is one thirty seven goodness last all on the psa nine. Not very good. Let's have a look at the PS a 10

30:08.79
Adz
Last saw 1100 pop a hundred and forty say that's yeah.

30:10.79
youcantcompthis
Okay.

30:16.68
youcantcompthis
so so I think the the other part of this conference. So the reason I asked you about Popp is because I think the other part of this conversation is I feel very confident considering that psa is grading thousands of cards a week that a lot of these raw victors are now going to be.

30:35.77
Adz
Yeah.

30:36.00
youcantcompthis
Churned through the psa machine and it's not unrealistic to think that the population on a victor is going to be higher than a luca or higher than a jar so you try and change my mind.

30:47.52
Adz
Yeah.

30:54.11
youcantcompthis
Why more aren't going to be subbed in this current market because if you think about the current draft class as it stands it seems pretty clear to me that the most liquid person by probably a margin of 70% is web owner and part of that liquidity liquidity.

31:10.14
Adz
Yep.

31:14.30
youcantcompthis
Is the cards going off to Pse.

31:16.27
Adz
Yeah, yeah I think Psa ten S are goingnna be where it's at I think numbered cards are going to be where it's at for longterm value for long-term value. Um, and we I mean we're a broken record when it comes to this is as far as the pop count.

31:23.85
youcantcompthis
So definitely numbered cards.

31:35.19
Adz
If a card is numbered to one ninety Nine the population count on it is not going to exceed 100 and yet correct.

31:35.63
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's never going to get to 5000 that's right yeah so I think where where I see collectors getting a little bit undone in that scenario. There was just the price because like even if you can stretch to a 2000 for a silver.

31:49.14
Adz
Um, yeah.

31:54.81
youcantcompthis
To go to 16000 for the 99 you know that's a huge jump. So I think that's also you know a little bit of part of the equation. So look I I sort of went in a little bit of a different direction to you because I looked at ultramoder stuff and I thought considering it someone's.

31:57.13
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

32:14.66
youcantcompthis
Birthday today being Luca Donnci so happy birthday luca our modern goat would you like to wish would you like to wish Luca a happy birthday ad if you got any nice words for Luca.

32:18.88
Adz
But sorry I feel a bit sick. Did you say modern goat. Yeah yeah, happy birthday Luca he's gonna get birthday presents equal to the number of championships. He's won I sent him just as many presents. 1 for each championship I can I said happy birthday. Um I don't know if baby goat or modern day goat is um is is quite quite there.

32:38.10
youcantcompthis
You could see a nice word though. It doesn't cost you anything? Okay, fine.

32:52.87
Adz
Look he's lost the same amount of play. Ah, as finals as Jordan you're right.

33:00.71
youcantcompthis
Look I would say he's the goat being born in 1999 how about that. That's the use born. ah ah I don't know about that man. Let's just going too far.

33:03.24
Adz
Is that because it's a year of the goat is that like in the Chinese New Year is that a year of the goat.

33:20.11
youcantcompthis
All righty so you bought a couple of Kobes so a Luca Silver Psa ten at the moment is trading for a thousand and fifty dollars population is 2000 though so I think that's the part so you could have 2 Lucas or.

33:22.96
Adz
Let's yeah yeah.

33:35.57
Adz
Oh.

33:39.53
youcantcompthis
Ah, one victor now the other one is Tatum and I went in a little bit of a different direction with this one so I wanted to get something numbered and it's actually quite difficult to get a psa ten that's numbered that's Tatum. So.

33:55.98
youcantcompthis
I went for the blue fast break number to one seventy five that last traded for one thousand two hundred and thirty five which in my head gave me around 7 $800 to spare and then with that I went and picked up a silver ps a 10 So I mean.

33:57.62
Adz
Okay.

34:09.10
Adz
Nice.

34:11.72
youcantcompthis
You could. Also you could almost make the argument I could get a Luca Silver and the tatum blue to one seventy five couldn't you. That's reason that's not outrageous is it so look.

34:22.90
Adz
True. Do you know what? because I can't because I can't help myself I'm now looking up Jason Tatum Kaboms ah know you can probably pick up two thousand I what about pair kabom psa ten.

34:28.48
youcantcompthis
Talk to me.

34:40.30
Adz
I haven't looked up rookie I just did Kabom Tatum Kabom psa ten yeah anywhere from mom a thousand to 1200 kind of is is the rough ballpark for psa ten. So let's go.

34:55.42
youcantcompthis
Even even if that's not a rookie card if that's PSA 10 I actually think that's a very long-term shrewd purchase.

34:58.36
Adz
Luca that's a buy.

35:08.25
youcantcompthis
So a few people have contacted me and sent me some videos about the different potential populations of those cards. It seems the number seems to be when the sort of 60 plus or minus. 25 or 30 So let's just say they're in the 60 to 70 mark here. We're still never getting up to 2000? yeah.

35:30.54
Adz
Ah, literally quite quite literally if you if you do a search at 1 on one thirty point variety of years Luka Dontic Kaboom P S a 10 the first 5 entries Twenty Twenty panini crown royale dontage Kabom psa 12250 ah 21 22 crown royale Kabom Luka dontic Psa 11963

35:52.98
youcantcompthis
Okay.

36:04.19
Adz
21 Twenty Two Cran Royale again Two Thousand two hundred and fifty two thousand flat and 2500

36:13.42
youcantcompthis
So that's actually really interesting when you think about it. So okay, let's now comp the kaboom to the silver right? So essentially the kaboom is trading at double What the silver is so can this is like obviously hypothetical.

36:23.76
Adz
Yeah.

36:32.46
youcantcompthis
Is there a world where we say victors are going for 2 k and then his cubooms are then going for 4

36:41.71
Adz
Um I don't doubt that for a second. What about all right? What about the numbered cabom. That's just priceless anyway, yeah day.

36:45.94
youcantcompthis
It's actually kind of making my headsp spin just a little bit if you can find 1 Let's let's quickly talk about it and then we'll we'll go to our next thing I can this is the last one at

36:59.68
Adz
I Can't find it I don't There's no way ah could boom.

37:08.10
Adz
But that is crazy.

37:09.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, anyway, that was a fun topic I actually think this is I think this is something we could put on socials actually and say ficta versus the field right? All righty I got one for you ad Lebron James.

37:14.32
Adz
That was a lot of fun. What do you think? Yeah yeah, pick your card in the field. Yeah.

37:28.67
youcantcompthis
PS a 9 jumballiah 8477 in a bgs nine versus a qui leonard n t one of 1 logomen

37:40.65
Adz
Oh.

37:48.63
youcantcompthis
At Nine Thousand usd with a bgs 8.5 sticker on it which do you prefer.

38:00.20
Adz
Um god we should be asking I should I should have asked more when we had Joe Fu on the show about the jambelierss the the rarity pop count expected. Um.

38:19.63
Adz
So it's okay, it's up. Ah, the Kawa is a logo man 1 of 1 now I'm gonna stick with Lebron.

38:36.59
Adz
1 of 1 Yeah, the 1 of 1 is very alluring to me. But I think I think the lebron still still get I still get the lebron for the longer term.

38:48.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, this sort of becomes a boring segment because so I'm going to go with the lebron too just for the fact, it's Lebron and it's a jumble. Ah, the only thing I'll add to this is we've spoken a fair bit about why isn't kai leard going for more money I think that's a really healthy.

39:04.77
Adz
Ah.

39:07.10
youcantcompthis
$9000 that's him in a clippers uniform too. So we know I've been talking about him being in spur's uniform or you know championship year and the raptors like clippers. He's barely played you know so he's playing this year but I I think if you look at his clippers career. You can.

39:08.00
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is I played today and Lebron took over in the fourth and won the game.

39:25.10
youcantcompthis
I Don't think it's fair to say oh he's been consistently out on the floor. Do you know? So I think that's where I'm going with that comment. Yeah yeah.

39:27.25
Adz
Oh no for sure for sure now I was just rubbing it into all the clippers listeners that that Lebron dropped 19 in the last quarter to to turn around a 21 point deficit and beat the clippers nah that that's all right? That's all right? This was at my profit.

39:38.88
youcantcompthis
Do you would you like to froth over Lebron for a minute I'll allow it are you sure why? okay look look I'm happy that you want a regular season game and that's all I can say it's.

39:46.71
Adz
This was my ah my lebron moment he beat he beat Kawa I thought that was very well timed to view.

39:57.66
Adz
Look it's it's it's a highlight since we won the in-season tournament which we've been had a bit of a hangover from. Um oh god Lebron is he's 1 is 1 or 2 games away from from eclipsing 40000 points I reckon.

39:57.83
youcantcompthis
Um, happy for you.

40:13.60
Adz
That's a big that's a milestone that might be next week we'll talk to talk about Lebron passing 40 k yeah.

40:17.30
youcantcompthis
Cool. Yeah, absolutely chuck it to the run sheett man. Let's do it sounds good. Alrighty the next four things are all w nba related these all gonna be very quick hiing. Everyone so don't stress too much April the fifteenth is the W Andba draft so you might see a little bit more social media. W andba yeah stuff you know, prospects coming through all that type of thing so that should be exciting. Check out for that now. Instagram I like to do this because sometimes I just like people just putting up cool cards and they don't even have to be Jordan exquisites or Lebron autographs. They can be just prism base cards. You know. This is someone else to follow to paully T cards SpeltP a ulytcards he put up a mayamore gold number to 10 beautiful card. Thanks for sharing that Paula yeah I love that type of stuff. So.

41:09.59
Adz
Love it.

41:15.33
youcantcompthis
The other thing I just wanted to really quickly go through too is there's more and more blank Slates Wnba blank slates coming to the secondary market. So part of it is to do with the timing of the release like it's been out for a few months now I also suspect a lot of these cards haven't been sent super express. So.

41:29.23
Adz
Ah.

41:33.45
youcantcompthis
You know it's been a couple of months now and they're coming out so wnba doesn't have a lot of product. It's basically got revolution prism and now it's got origins and origins is essentially it's I'm using air quotes now their high- end product so it has patches it has patch autographs. It's got those sort of.

41:44.13
Adz
Yeah, nope.

41:53.36
youcantcompthis
Napkin patch types cards too. But the case hits are blank slates and they're very nice psa 9 Brianna Stewart sold for seventy one us dollars I was bidding on that I should have put in a few extra dollars on that. But the one that.

42:11.38
Adz
Ah.

42:11.92
youcantcompthis
Really, where to be honest I got cold feed on because it just went a little bit higher than what I was expecting the Sie Bird Blank Slate Psa ten that's sold for one hundred and seventy one usd so we're sort of being talking about this last couple of weeks I think you know there's a bit of interest coming into you know wmba there's a bit more people.

42:21.66
Adz
Foe.

42:29.24
youcantcompthis
You know, jumping on board and I'd probably say you know that's 2 healthy sales of you know case hits like they're they're really nice cards right? We did talk about this young man earlier on in the show. But I think we should talk about him a second time Tyrese Halliburton

42:30.39
Adz
Yeah.

42:37.45
Adz
Um, ah.

42:47.30
youcantcompthis
Contender's optic. 1 of 1 gold vinyl sold for Twenty Thousand seven hundred and forty dollars and I think this is a really good comparison because really, we're contrasting to. Drastically different styles. You know one person coming out with all the hype and the the power in the world and the other guy coming out with essentially out of a small iowa school college coming onto the league being by and Darren Fox but with more skill than probably maybe but 3 guys in the league I think he's one of the most skilled guys in the leagueak is where I'm going with this. So yeah, Zion Williamson immaculate one of 1 patch autograph from his rookie. Yeah. Psa 8.5 autograph ten eighteen thousand three hundred dollars I just get the feeling that would have sold for $200000 in the peak of covid.

43:50.60
Adz
Yeah I'm.

43:53.84
youcantcompthis
And like there was buzz at 1 point some of the zion stuff is going to go to a million.

43:57.62
Adz
True.

44:04.62
Adz
I'm I'm I'd probably take this zion I'll take the zion.

44:10.15
youcantcompthis
It's really hard isn't it I think that card's got the most upside.

44:14.38
Adz
Like I don't see a 1 of 1 auto rookie auto but it is from contenent contenders versus in a mac and imac card. That's a one of one like it's Rpa.

44:27.80
youcantcompthis
1 with a very nice patch. Yeah.

44:31.91
Adz
Like the upside of that zion is is way higher.

44:35.16
youcantcompthis
I Actually think that more represents how the market feels about zion at the moment I think a lot of that sort of outsiders coming into the Hobby Betty on him because he's the sure thing I think all of that all of that market has gone I think a lot of those people that.

44:42.51
Adz
Ah.

44:50.90
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

44:54.71
youcantcompthis
Did come in for that sort of quick flip. They've sold them off. They've lost their money. They've moved on well see I Actually think that almost now fits into really I think Zion now is moving into more of a Pc guy than than a than a quick flip like.

44:58.85
Adz
Probably not what I'm spending 20 k on though.

45:12.40
Adz
Yeah, yeah, this is this is a message but how young is he but you know, um, like it's.

45:14.70
youcantcompthis
The quick clip is not there I can check his age right now.

45:22.37
youcantcompthis
So poka chesky is 22 I would say zion is 23 23 yeah

45:30.31
Adz
Um, yeah, so zion's 23 how long is his career going to be do not I mean if he sorts his health out. He could be like an absolute powerhouse.

45:44.54
youcantcompthis
I actually think that he's been pretty good this year and that has actually for me the irony of about all of his prices is that now he's actually putting up consistent minutes. Consistent games. Pretty good spread.

45:54.99
Adz
2032 this year.

46:02.00
youcantcompthis
His team is relatively successful yet. He's still yeah, but this his card prices are still going down and that's for me the part that I struggle with a little bit. So yeah.

46:05.96
Adz
They they therere they're in the playoffs. Ah I feel like it's a slower burn for people. People aren't jumping back on board because of half a season of good play from Zion they will need to see a lot.

46:17.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

46:21.18
Adz
What I'm saying is his output at the moment is showing a lot different to his market confidence and I think if it persists and he keeps playing Well this could be a turning point. Yeah yeah.

46:31.80
youcantcompthis
All right I got a question for you. So you're a general manager and you are an expansion leak your lebron James Lebron James has appointed you as the journal manager and for some reason you have the number 1 pick and.

46:41.67
Adz
I'm the Vegas team as he should.

46:50.16
youcantcompthis
The paces didn't protect Halliburton and the pelicans didn't protect zion who would you choose to lead your franchise forward.

47:00.71
Adz
Oof.

47:09.96
Adz
That's a tough 1 knowing what we know about their development.

47:11.62
youcantcompthis
It's so fun right? know knowing what we know right today so that the draft is today. It's today you have to make a decision like you've got 15 seconds away

47:18.27
Adz
A draft is today I get just just just a yank player out of there out of their roster I'll take zion.

47:27.12
youcantcompthis
To make the decision to.

47:31.13
youcantcompthis
And what oh my god I I actually I asked you that question to support my own night narrative here but that completely backfired so I would go for Halliburton I think he's the safer bet in that space and actually.

47:49.50
Adz
Yeah I'm gambling I'm I'm taking the Vegas team baby. Ah.

47:52.70
youcantcompthis
And actually um and that's why I'm going to go with the halliburton card I think look I think that's overs I really I actually think that's maybe say for just say that was 16000 I think that's a different conversation altogether but it is 20 So I think that's overs but at the same time.

48:01.91
Adz
M.

48:10.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah I just I just do wonder that Halliburton is maybe going to be a bit steadier. A zion is going to be full of fluctuations full of you know downward trends and yeah, okay look.

48:17.51
Adz
I like Halliburton but I think he's he's he's overs at the moment he's he's in his hype. Everybody is on on board with these crazy record numbers I don't know I feel like Zion Zion we've shown seen after a few years. What zion. Is capable of when he's healthy.

48:37.52
youcantcompthis
Maybe so now that Halliburton part about you paying overs I agree with that to a degree because remember last week how we comped that nash to the the relatively similar number Halliburton card and that actually because.

48:49.73
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

48:56.29
youcantcompthis
If you had had said that to me last week before we comped that I would have said yeah 100% halliburton is over stay away. But then when you almost do like for like actually that's not horrible. You know? Yeah yeah.

49:03.25
Adz
Compk Nash I just think I think halliburtons at overs at the moment and zions' at unders and I everybody is buyer beware mode with zion. So he's staying unders. So even when he probably shouldn't be he still you can pick him up cheaper.

49:17.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

49:24.21
youcantcompthis
But to be fair to people and even I'll put myself into this bucket too. Ah I actually feel like zion is pretty risk like too much risk for me. Yeah yeah, and probably actually that's why I'm going for Halliburton so I look at this kid I'm like this guy's stable as anything.

49:32.77
Adz
Ah, we've everyone's been burnt by this guy.

49:42.30
Adz
Can I make can I can I make 1 observation because the zion prism rookie has a population of 640000 um this is a 1 of 1 at least. So.

49:42.24
youcantcompthis
Probably still going to get better. Go.

49:48.65
youcantcompthis
yeah yeah 1 of 1 yeah yeah yeah yeah I think one of 1

49:56.41
Adz
I think the one of 1 status of this makes it a less risky zion. Um, it's not the Oprah Winfrey throw in zion that everybody gets when they they buy a repack that's got a prism card in it. Yeah.

49:58.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

50:05.76
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, our next item is from at Breaker Culture Ebay resaler tip of the day if you have a best offer on your items and you get an offer. Don't just cancel if you don't like the offer counter the offer every time. It amazes me how many sellers just Decline. It's a huge turn off to buyers. Yeah I agree with that. It's kind of fun to negotiate and go back and forth a little bit like.

50:31.95
Adz
So is this is this like if it's a legitimate if it's legitimately close.

50:37.94
youcantcompthis
I actually think I suspect he means when people lowball you by fifty bucks I think used to saying keep coming back. Keep coming back? Yeah yeah.

50:49.25
Adz
Okay, keep them engaged I Guess Yeah, yep, yeah, you're keeping a buyer on the line. You're not, You're not just cutting cutting bait. There are I Guess people with the way they manage their rebay. They're either. They could be time poor and that's why they're not responding. But I think you're right if you've got the time to do it and be fun engage with someone that's legitimately maybe legitimately trying to buy your card. Yeah.

51:16.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah, this next piece of content is actually I would say organic you can't comp this and this is from Anthony Milne who is a long time listener contributor. So Anthony thank you? okay.

51:27.36
Adz
And currently in the chat and agreed with me about zion.

51:32.36
youcantcompthis
Okay, Anthony can't respond to his own post That's just that's worse than my echo chamber about herbjo evening legends and bench warmers I think he means warmers. But that's worm as it could be either What's everyone's thoughts on the hobby right now for the past year or so there's been increasing concern specifically in groups with scammers ghost buyers lowball commandos and windows shoppers just want to know as everyone's best and worst experiences in the hobby. Best buy chase future investment on a player or is comp prices controlled and regulated by these app markets Adam I'll put this to you.

52:13.23
Adz
Um, I think the hobby is in ah in a healthy place I think we've we've lost the we haven't completely lost them the sports cards investors are still there and about but I think we're we're in a period where we've got a lot of people that are excited about. Hobby side of things that are going back to collecting sets that are focusing on their pc that aren't cards are more acquiable again and and I think. I mean we did see it a little bit with prism recently with the blasters that were released a little bit of the old I don't know if how how many people are gonna have ptsd from this but the old you know eb games have their the product goes on sale and the bots buy everything and then people are selling product. That's. Sixty bucks a packet for $400 each or trying to trying to get their money like there's that there's people trying to flip but it's not as crazy as it was.

53:11.80
youcantcompthis
Well yes, and no I think that is true but I actually got prism blasts off ebay cheaper than I could have bought them from a retail shop in America. So yes I do agree with you people are.

53:25.12
Adz
That's pretty crazy. That's good. But yeah.

53:29.96
youcantcompthis
Playing the flip game but not always winning. So I think that's the other thing too. It's the the equation has changed a little bit in that space like it's it's not just the person at the other end paying 6 times what dudes were you know, queuing up down a target for right? so.

53:41.31
Adz
Yeah.

53:49.12
youcantcompthis
Look I think somewhat Anthony's question is a little bit leading because I feel like overall he has concerns about it I think in the comments below people are talking about you know razzes so I'm just gonna address like a couple of things. You know in 1 sentence here I think you do have to have a degree of trust into when you run into a ras because if the person that you don't know and you don't trust. Essentially you're giving them. Let's just say it's $2000 and there's no real strong.

54:13.72
Adz
Um, yeah.

54:19.70
Adz
Yeah.

54:25.46
youcantcompthis
Way that you can enforce that person to post the card out. So I would say honestly and I'll say this is is the same as sales if you don't feel like you trust somebody, you can always go somewhere else. You know to buy something if you're not enjoying going to rises give them a break for a bit and and do something else like that's I think.

54:26.89
Adz
M.

54:36.62
Adz
Yeah.

54:44.54
youcantcompthis
For me. That's the real thing that I've probably enjoyed the most like I've been doing the Hobby differently So I'll go into breaks for a bit and I'm not enjoying that so much then I'll go out and start filling out my singles and my sets The other thing that people seem to be doing a lot more at the moment is trading. So. I've never been a massive trader but the last couple of Ej trades days I've traded cards at at both times and I've actually really enjoyed that I will ah Agree. It's difficult to trade. So. It's not the you know the most simplest thing to do but you know just mix what I'm trying to say is mix it up a bit um in terms of.

55:09.58
Adz
Ah.

55:14.41
Adz
Um, yeah.

55:19.56
youcantcompthis
Protecting yourself but against people ripping you off just do Paypal pay the 3% and then if something does happen. You can just you just charge it back and I really think.

55:26.56
Adz
Fairly good advice.

55:36.88
youcantcompthis
I Don't want to sound difficult here but you know again, if someone's insisting on pay Id just don't buy the card if the deal is too good to be true. It's very possible that it is too good to be true. Yeah, so ah, the next thing that anthey talks about here is investments and and future investments.

55:43.38
Adz
There is yeah I have a show.

55:55.42
youcantcompthis
Look I think Herb Jones I'm going to stick with that for tonight I think Poca Chesky's is fun at the moment I spoken about w nba I'm still very lowke high on that. So that's probably the 3 things at the moment we got Luke Williams in here look.

55:58.28
Adz
That's it Your herb Giant Herb Giants stay. That's it.

56:14.14
youcantcompthis
He he talks about rises a little bit there and and that's fine I get that Matthew hull I think this one's probably worth reading. Do you want to read through this one out. Yeah.

56:20.26
Adz
Matthew how? yeah yeah I think the hobby hobby is okay I don't say that with a warm touch I say that with a pursed lip and 1 raised the rock eyebrow personally I can't stand the reliance on comps as ah as the buyers bargaining tool especially from experienced buyers. Everyone knows comps are are a market of purported value and like stop gain stocks gain value and traction on performance and demand if you aren't willing to pay comps or overcoms. Don't start negotiating if you're selling at 6 times comps then get a grip. Experienced hobbyists could be better at reporting ah at reporting on advice. They could give people. For example, if you see a punter out there selling something super undervalued. Give them a message and share the story with everyone's permission.

57:13.60
Adz
Regulation has its ups and downs regulation is supposed to be bring about safety and standard I'm not opposed to this hobby. However, Graders can't agree on a standard auction How a standard that auction houses can't agree on a stand just bought everything.

57:25.97
youcantcompthis
Well, that was written before psa essentially got 100% monopoly so you have to slightly edit that comment Maddie sorry mate.

57:32.88
Adz
Yeah, it's true. However, great. Can't agree on a standard auction houses. Can't agree on a standard and the biggest card show in the world is being attacked on all fronts due to ah its declining standard for collectors, an advisory group that is organized by 1 standing hobbybody. And includes international members as well as graders ae and influencers would be ideal in at least creating a common ground for what the hobby which now leveling out economically will push a hobby in an upwards direction. That's my two cents also everyone stop buying tatum so I can buy them.

58:07.56
youcantcompthis
So Adam I got to ask you do you have any regulate the hobby t-shirts on you. We need to send one out to Maddie Hull Maddie what's your size if we've got one on hand we'll send it out to otherwise we'll we'll sort one out and get it out I feel like.

58:10.89
Adz
Ah.

58:17.34
Adz
I might have one I might have one I'll um.

58:26.00
Adz
We'll sort you out. Yep.

58:27.12
youcantcompthis
You 2 are kindred spirits actually, that's why I asked you to read that once he was talking about regulation in there ah come on. You've got a t-shirt you can't deny this man. You've got a t-shirt that says regulate the hobby that's like your your mantra. Yeah.

58:31.39
Adz
I knew I knew he was gonna you you were gonna say that it is it is it is it is it is regulate the hobby that is correct it it is it is I'm very well renowned for this for this thought and and you're right? It's um. Finding consistency across the board. Um, interesting interesting space this hobbies in. Do. Do you want to read 1 or summarize another one. Yeah.

58:57.34
youcantcompthis
So think the last one's Sonny I probably think we just summarize this one. He also talks about the highs and lows of the hobby. But this is the thing I want to talk about here. Otherwise we keep our pc as long as we want coming home seeing my pc after work makes it all worth it and look I think I think that's actually a really.

59:12.87
Adz
Um, yeah.

59:16.33
Adz
Name.

59:16.41
youcantcompthis
I Say beautiful line. It's just well said sunny. So yeah, it's true and we you need to look at our Pcs more yeah.

59:21.34
Adz
Yeah, and appreciate appreciate that this is a hobby. You know what? I mean like this is yeah the reasons we collect. It isn't because we're well not everybody's trying to be overnight millionaires.

59:27.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

59:38.10
Adz
Buying zions for 18000 and flipping them for 85000 once he goes wins it I'm not even Goingnna start I can't I'm not gonna buy that one of 1 Yeah.

59:43.19
youcantcompthis
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01:00:38.62
youcantcompthis
He's a hundred and nineteen dollars

01:00:41.59
Adz
That's um, that's quite a very impressive seems like a lot of fun who wants to be a nice little rip party. You know I mean like yeah yeah.

01:00:42.23
youcantcompthis
Seems like a bit of fun actually. Ah, that's it yeah Friday night divvi that up between 3 of your mates. Actually that's like very doable isn't it. Yeah yeah.

01:00:56.82
Adz
Yeah, that's it's that's getting have it crack some packs that seems like a lot of fun That's ah it's a really good deal.

01:01:02.26
youcantcompthis
This is also some organic. You can't comp this content. This is from George so George we spoke about the last couple weeks with his amazing Patrick Ewing collection and his private autograph signings this is a.

01:01:15.32
Adz
Yep.

01:01:19.10
youcantcompthis
Bgs 10 yanis hoops rookie card which is also the red back pop one. What is a sensible price on this card. Adam.

01:01:28.22
Adz
Hang on where are we looking.

01:01:39.22
Adz
Top 1

01:01:45.62
youcantcompthis
This is actually really tough by the way. So don't don't be too like.

01:01:47.84
Adz
Yeah I want to do do do card later time.

01:01:55.90
youcantcompthis
This is the perfect time to use card lettics. You can sort of get a bit of a gauge on all right? Are you happy for me to go while you are. Yeah yeah.

01:02:05.51
Adz
You You can go you. You can go while I'm researching.

01:02:14.80
youcantcompthis
So actually very recently this actually for me makes it pretty easy psa 10 of the exact same card but without the red back sold for two hundred and sixty nine usd so let's just say you put a premium onto this.

01:02:25.87
Adz
Ah.

01:02:33.46
youcantcompthis
And the premium is 30%

01:02:35.73
Adz
Okay, m.

01:02:41.96
youcantcompthis
John and Michaels would know that at the top of his head but I to use a calculator that takes it to three forty Nine Usd I feel pretty happy with that.

01:02:48.14
Adz
Yeah.

01:02:55.20
youcantcompthis
What do you reckon.

01:02:57.23
Adz
Yeah I've got no I've got no um I don't I don't think you're wrong. That's a red border. Not the red back I'm get I'm I'm getting a lot of red border stuff on. Um.

01:03:12.87
Adz
On Card Ladder not the red back.

01:03:14.20
youcantcompthis
Ah, actually I got to say before we move on from this my final thought on this. This is not something to sell I think this is a hold particularly if something's pop 1

01:03:25.90
Adz
Yeah, well the psa 10 of the normal one is pop thousand like twenty six hundred so a pop 1 is pretty impressive. Mm.

01:03:31.91
youcantcompthis
1 being the roadback that kind of makes sense but I just don't think that really yarnis is something you want to be flipping willy- nily at the moment particularly if it is that lo pop.

01:03:46.38
Adz
Yeah, a grade a grade. Um.

01:03:47.90
youcantcompthis
All right this next one I actually found off Nba Basketball cards Australia trade by sell and drawers and this was just a very innocuous question. What is the difference in these boxes 1 sells for double of the other and the question is. What is the difference between prism and first off the line prism which I think is a really good question by the way and this is a type of stuff I think is really fun to talk about basically in a nutshell you get an extra card. You aren't guaranteed anything.

01:04:13.14
Adz
Show.

01:04:20.89
Adz
Ah.

01:04:24.90
youcantcompthis
In particular but you can get a blue shimmer to 35 a gold shimmer to 10 a green shimmer to 5 or the black shimmer to 1 of 1 if you're looking for the victor one of one out of photo. Don't buy any more boxes that's already been ripped.

01:04:37.40
Adz
Um, it it's gone. It is gone.

01:04:43.27
youcantcompthis
While I was looking through the checklist to find that information out I then went down a little bit of a rabbit hole. Did you know there is 64 total parallels this year out of prism which includes. All the retail so you know blasters fat packs yada yada lucky envelopes choice First off the line hobby fast break. It goes on and on so when you say like that 64 doesn't seem that much does it. But.

01:05:07.53
Adz
Anna.

01:05:17.27
Adz
When you start adding up how many different what and counts there to and very interesting. So so what's the what's the uniqueness of of cards. What are we looking at like is it.

01:05:21.17
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah I so.

01:05:32.63
Adz
I'm trying to find out what the numbered pop count is.

01:05:37.55
youcantcompthis
Can you ask me that in a different way. What do you mean.

01:05:39.86
Adz
Maybe? Okay so if we add all of the um, the numbered cards together. So the number to 10 and the number to one ninety nine means there's a pop total pop there of 209

01:05:54.92
youcantcompthis
Ah, so okay.

01:05:56.60
Adz
Yeah, so we add all the pop counts of all the numbered cards. What is the overall numbered card pop count I know I'm not asking you on the spot right now or they would be super super impressive if you could answer that on the spot. Ah.

01:06:00.26
youcantcompthis
Ah I was going to say you know I'm not you know I'm not Jono Michaelels right yeah so I've got no idea to that I could probably sit there with ah a calculator or spreadsheet and work it out but it'd be something hideous man I mean come on like.

01:06:13.20
Adz
Yeah, but if they're low numbers right? They're low numbers. It's not. It's not as hideous. Yeah yeah for sure for sure for sure I'm just saying I'm like I'm trying to quantify how rare the the numbered stuff is.

01:06:18.80
youcantcompthis
And that doesn't even yeah, but that doesn't factor in the unnumbered stuff too. You know I think yeah yeah, yeah.

01:06:32.70
Adz
Because I think there's a lot of Parallels which dilutes the pool for the silvers. But I think the numbered stuff still holds. Some weight is my um, my thought there anyway.

01:06:35.10
youcantcompthis
So ah, definitely, but you did not stop. So yeah.

01:06:45.41
youcantcompthis
I did actually write down a couple of ones that I thought were worthy of talking about I'm not going to read through every single parallel you guys can find the checklist easy and go through it. But there's a couple I did want to mention to so the black gold number to 5 is cool.

01:06:53.00
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:02.15
Adz
That I saw a wemby of that wasn't one ah haven't one of those already been pulled. Yeah.

01:07:03.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, there's a wide and a snakeskin in this year's hobby now the snakeskins I have no idea the rarity of these theyre unnumbered so it's a little bit tricky to say but I've been beating on a couple of low-end rookie snake skins and they look fantastic. So.

01:07:18.53
Adz
Um.

01:07:23.38
youcantcompthis
They have been in prism draft for a little bit which is that college product that we've talked about a couple of times I'm I'm really glad that's come across. That's cool, um out of choice blue yellow green the tiger stripe red to eighty eight blue to 49 and cherry blossom to 20 which I think.

01:07:41.76
youcantcompthis
You know I don't mind when they do these sort of headline sort of grabbing Parallels and I would say this because does that appeal to children more does that appeal to dare I say girls a bit more like is that a good to sort of try and. Target different groups within the hobby I think the answer is yes I'm totally fine with that. Yeah, and that's really about it I didn't want to you know, go through them all but that was the ones that sort of caught my eye a little bit. Yeah.

01:07:59.29
Adz
Um, good question. Good question. Yeah yeah.

01:08:11.38
Adz
I like that I mean as much as I'm curious to know um' um'm um I'm hoping someone will do the research for us and let us know? Yeah, but I'm um I'll sit there with a calculator go through the checklists.

01:08:17.38
youcantcompthis
Well, there's no reason you can't do it tonight. Add just sit there with a calculator. Yeah, you should do that I mean you got nothing to do like yeah.

01:08:27.29
Adz
Had nothing else to do is fine I'll I'll I'll start start finding all the variations is what I get for making comments like this I always wait John O should have been in the chat and just like bang straight away.

01:08:37.80
youcantcompthis
That's right serves you right? man? Yeah I feel like we might have just mucked up his week actually because usually's Sunday night. He's in with us final thoughts at.

01:08:45.60
Adz
Yeah, it's true. That's true.

01:08:53.26
Adz
Final thoughts I'm still I still hold put a lot of um, not a weight in number numbered prism cards and I would take that zion.

01:08:58.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, fair.

01:09:06.10
youcantcompthis
Herb Jones herb jones herb jones that's my final thought for the evening. Thanks everyone have a great evening. Yeah.

01:09:09.22
Adz
That's fair. Thanks guys little um, yeah, thanks everyone. We'll we'll see you next week