Episode 133: Lebron James 40k, Nikola Jokic, Allen Iverson, Caitlin Clark, Court Kings, SGA, Victor Wembanyama, Anthony Black, Scottie Barnes

Episode 133: Adam and Russell again have stacked up a hefty, quick hitting show:
-Lebron 40k: and Joker vs Lebron:
-Allen Iverson Sculpture
- Caitlin Clark and her $16,500 1/1 Superfractor PSA 9 sale
- Court Kings released   and Level 4 discussion
- Long over due hobby love for SGA and his recent SGA 1/1 sale
- Follow up from last weeks Victor vs the field conversation
- 1 million dollar bounty
- Anthony Black
- Scottie Barnes and Russell Westbrook Injury
-  Steph kaleidoscopic, Coby White,   Chet vs Devin Booker and finally Luka vs Tatum

Thank You to our sponsors EJ Cards  Online Store, Facebook, and Click here for EJ Cards Promo Code!
‘The Bang Man’  Facebook and  Instagram and our new sponsor SlamBox and DJs Trading Cards.

Reach out to us on socials and tell us what we got right or wrong!
Instagram: youcantcompthis
Twitter @youcantcompthis
Gmail youcantcompthis@gmail.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/youcantcompthis

Transcript

00:00.40
Adz
Um I should do an audio check I'll look the camera cut out again. Um yeah I've got the show notes ready to go I've got I've got the run sheet I've got card ladder up I'm organized I think we're good. Um.

00:17.16
Adz
And we're live. So.

00:29.40
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 133 if do you can't comp this and Nba trading card podcast. We are your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson Big week in basketball.

00:45.76
youcantcompthis
Has it been a big big in basketball.

00:48.40
Adz
I don't know is it any any I'd like to raise a point or 40000 of them to start with Lebron James is the first player in and Nba history to surpass 40000 career points. It's a pretty big week.

00:53.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so go.

01:06.63
Adz
And Anthony Davis has requested the lebronn stopped like breaking records because um, every time they do the lakers lose.

01:16.32
youcantcompthis
Ah, so ah, you need to pitch this to me as someone who is not that interested in it. Why should I be interested in Lebron James getting 40000

01:29.20
Adz
Ah, now I need to Google like what the average and Nba basketballer scores in their career. How many points does the and Nba there. There. There is what how many how many players have come before if you even if you don't not interested in the sport specifically. Um, passing 30000 points is phenomenal. Um, the the unbreakable record previously set was set by Kareem Abdul Jabbar and nobody thought it was going to be broken.

01:50.90
youcantcompthis
Been? Yeah, so.

02:08.40
Adz
And then Lebron came along.

02:09.97
youcantcompthis
I also thought that too just for the fact that I thought Kareem's body was so reliable and the way he was a big guy with that hook shot. It just seemed like he could as consistently score up points I I get that and there's a part of my brain that gets that too. Yeah.

02:29.93
Adz
I'm typing.

02:30.92
youcantcompthis
So what's I suppose what's the difference between Kareem and Lebron like what makes you think why do you think he could overtake Kareem yeah, ah.

02:46.28
Adz
Longevity um Lebron stays healthy like and and yes, he's had injuries. In fact, he injured his ankle today but his injury the impact of his injuries is very minimal like he he comes back and he puts in the work. He is. Played this is what year twenty one and there's talk and I'm not I don't know I'm really not sure how I feel about the talk that in the offseason there's gonna be discussions about a multi 3 like a 6 figure deal. Sorry you see a 7 figure deal.

03:17.77
youcantcompthis
Like yeah.

03:24.60
Adz
Six millions hundreds of millions like it's going to be over $100000000 for 3 seasons of over 2040 years an over lebron like this man's going to play until he's like 42 43 at this rate.

03:38.48
youcantcompthis
Show.

03:42.79
Adz
Now if you play that many seasons and you average what he averages then yeah, you get to 40000 points but that is playing at an incredibly high level for an incredibly long period of time. Um and to maintain that from the beginning of your career all the way through.

03:53.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

04:01.91
Adz
Um I think is is phenomenal. There was a a stat and and I I won't quote it exactly because I can't remember it exactly but the can look facts at facts. Get boring. Don't they um, but it was it was how many games Lebron took for each bracket.

04:09.69
youcantcompthis
That's why we don't need exact figures on this show. Adam you know that? absolutely.

04:20.16
Adz
Of 10000 points and the the variation on it is approximately 20 games either way like it's 3 60 3 83 53 60 again like it's crazy that that he um.

04:25.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right like.

04:32.22
youcantcompthis
Grace. Yeah, right.

04:39.82
Adz
Just consistently night after night just delivers. So yeah, now he hasn't always been my favorite player. Um obviously liked it when he came to the lakers but I just think you've sort of got to take your hat off and and and appreciate that where here's a historical figure as far as the game is concerned.

04:56.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look I think the historical figure party is that's not up for debate I think the the thing that people debate constantly is where does he fit into the Mount Rushmore of and Nba players and I've probably come to accept the fact that he's.

04:58.63
Adz
And um, yeah.

05:14.85
youcantcompthis
Own Mount Rushmore is just for his longevity and I think that's something that in some ways I wonder if we should be studying this guy from a sports scientist perspective. How does he do it. You know what is his secrets what is his you know yada yada yada but then putting on my tinfoil hat and I'm gonna.

05:18.68
Adz
Ah.

05:22.23
Adz
There.

05:33.28
youcantcompthis
Die on this island until it's you know, proven. Otherwise I I Honestly think he's using some type of growth hormone that helps his recovery and the while illegal and then the day that he retires they'll start testing for it. This is my tinfoil hat theory. So um, I'm going to diee in this hill.

05:39.99
Adz
Some some form of Legal enhancement. Dad.

05:51.94
youcantcompthis
Really interestingly I'm just looking at the all- time leading scorers list. So one is on 2 is kareem 3 car Malone 4 kobe 5 mj 6 dirk 7 wilt 8 shaq that's interesting 9 kd 10 camalo. This is interesting. This is where it for me gets super interesting. Moses Malone at 8 Alvin Hayes hakem at 13 Oscar robinson Dominique Wilkins at 15 just going back to Moses Malone know how many 3 pointers did he make and missing his career now this is just like a a stupid like stat slash question have have a guess.

06:18.83
Adz
Ah.

06:27.79
Adz
Moses Malone

06:30.57
youcantcompthis
How many he tempted because it remember that guy like didn't really have very much touch around the basket like why on earth he shot as many 3 pointers as he did in his career to me that's kind of funny. He attempted 80 and made 8 of them. So for a very gaudy.

06:31.46
Adz
How.

06:40.78
Adz
Okay, um, 20

06:50.31
youcantcompthis
10% conversion rate through his career. Ah hey yeah.

06:50.99
Adz
Look you? Well I know we all know how many shot how many shack made he only had 22 attempts though for his one 3 pointer. That's it.

07:03.46
youcantcompthis
Ah, for his 4.5% you delicious hey you yeah, absolutely sub 10% and actually so before we saying you know why did lebron get maybe that's yeah, that is the answer is in a 20

07:07.46
Adz
Let's see it. Let's go him and Kareem have something in common.

07:20.68
youcantcompthis
Three Thousand eight hundred sorry 2383 3 point is made in his career. Yeah that that's the difference between his scoring record and Kareem's isn't it. It's as simple as that.

07:22.53
Adz
<unk> it's a bit that at the moment but so it's half that. Yeah. Because he's up by was he up by 151600 at the moment but he's also taking a lot less games to do it. I've got the the stats are I just pulled the stats up then? yeah.

07:45.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah, those things I Love this guy.

07:52.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah, all right? So why? Why don't we talk about some cards with Lebron I think in our true we're going through a real run at the moment of just loving these card comparisons from card ladder. So thank you our forensic card ladder for your ongoing support. We probably should.

08:05.50
Adz
I Think so.

08:12.47
youcantcompthis
Spruk them a little bit more than what we do really shouldn't we that is true that is true.

08:12.80
Adz
I Think we show them on the show every week. So I always have the the card ladder info stuff up on the screen which I soon as I as soon as I said that it it hasn't shown. So let's let.

08:29.56
youcantcompthis
That's okay.

08:32.23
Adz
Let's do what we say we do there. We go card ladder lebron james.

08:39.88
youcantcompthis
So Nicola Yokick wide sparkle bgs 10 last sold for $30600 lebron James Refractor which is a little bit tricky to see that it actually is a refractor in that picture. It looks like a wide border bit.

08:54.64
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

08:59.24
youcantcompthis
Let's take it for what the bgs label says sold for Twenty Nine Thousand Four hundred

09:07.44
Adz
That's some.

09:09.10
youcantcompthis
Keeping in mind Lebron is now the old old time leaning score. It's scored 40000 points versus the 2 time Mvp onetime champion. Where are you at with this card.

09:20.54
Adz
The lebron is a very special card. It's very interesting that it's a bead. They're both bgs Tens I do I do think I don't know I'm looking what's the pop count on that. Let's have a look.

09:25.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah, like.

09:39.76
Adz
31 um a accompanied with the psa 10 which has a pop count of one seventy seven so that's a 2 around 200 and what was the yolkage white sparkle is that ah I'm guessing. Um.

09:52.64
youcantcompthis
That's the what sparkle? yeah.

10:02.41
Adz
There We go yokitch white sparkle.

10:11.47
Adz
Find find me something that's compared there. We go be just 10 white sparkle pop count 7

10:25.20
Adz
So it's an interest I think it's a very interesting one because I think yokitch is about to become a one of those historic players. Um, if the Mvp race is to be trusted. Um I think it's very close still. But I think yokitch.

10:42.80
Adz
Potentially is a 3 time Mvp this year um pop count 7 on that rookie card versus pop 200 ish on the lebron but we're talking the greatest scorer of all time.

10:52.82
youcantcompthis
Right? So yeah.

10:58.36
Adz
20 year prices I think I'm taking the Lebron.

11:03.42
youcantcompthis
Look I think for me this is a very hypothetical conversation because this is just not the I don't tread into these waters so you know from what I'm about to say here on out is is very hypothetical, but hypothetically if I did have this amount of money I.

11:21.30
Adz
Yep.

11:22.33
youcantcompthis
And also knowing my personality type I think I would go with the the surer thing which are in my mind is Lebron now the really interesting thing for me about this is I'm looking at the psa ten s at the moment pop on that 177 which is what you said before but the old time high price on this sold for 200

11:24.84
Adz
Which is.

11:41.98
youcantcompthis
And $85000 at one point I think we that happened in the covid crazies and ah I get all of that. But at the same time.

11:51.22
Adz
Sure covid crazies are the 10 to 20 year price points though people were paying future prices for everything.

12:01.68
youcantcompthis
That's that's what it was sort of thinking in the back of my head like if it's been to that price once yes I think you'd have to be very very patient and I think you know you need to put it away into a you know, very safe place but at the same time is actually this. Ah, really good bargain at the moment.

12:18.34
Adz
30 grand for 300 down the track or you can invent a time machine. Go back to when it was 280000 and sell it hypothetically.

12:23.16
youcantcompthis
Because what's beat them.

12:30.46
youcantcompthis
You yeah think you just get the the gray sports almanac at the same time when you that would just be way easier than trying to manipulate card sales and deal with people on ebay I've already told you off air my little ebay catastrophe today. So.

12:37.95
Adz
Just go back with the sports bit. Yeah.

12:46.37
Adz
Yes, met in that with the almanac.

12:49.70
youcantcompthis
Um, so look in my head this week what I've been thinking about is Jordan Inserts and Herbert Jones that's all this stuff. That's in the sheet today to be honest I haven't really been thinking about all that much. But so I'm I'm just going to reflect what I have been thinking about this week onto this and that's you know Jordan is Lebron. Of the of the next sort of like you know, maybe 2 generations away because I think there's someone in between Jordan and Lebron whoever that will be sort of card wise look I'm actually not that sure and then after le after Lebron you know I think it's gonna be stefhan then maybe there'll be like maybe Luca.

13:18.34
Adz
Um, card.

13:25.51
Adz
Oh.

13:25.91
youcantcompthis
Thiss gonna be the next one. But what I'm getting to with this is just that sort of liquidity of people. You know, just buying and selling Jordans every day you know I think it's gonna be. It's gonna be people buying and selling lebrons every day. So.

13:31.12
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I like those card ladder comparisons I'm just gonna say think they're fantastic. Let's let's remember that the yokish for thirty K is not a bad.

13:40.41
youcantcompthis
You do you love those? Yeah all right? it.

13:48.56
Adz
That pickup either pop 7 little lebron is sure money Lebron is just flat out shore money. Um, yeah, here that is currency.

13:48.57
youcantcompthis
No no I'm definitely not saying. It's a bad but I'm just saying at that price point. Yeah yeah.

13:59.76
youcantcompthis
6 is on a allla iveson with a sculpture the training complex iverson sculpture on the 76 s legends walk in Philadelphia will be unveiled on the twelfth of April I can't wait to see this look I think culturally he's very important. It's a little bit of a shame for me. He didn't win a championship and then from a personal perspective. It's been a little bit painful at times watching him and some of the social media stuff has come out around his you know personal finances you know him spending all that money on his posses and hotel rooms and all the other stuff that he you know, got up to and didn't save any money away. So.

14:36.37
Adz
Yeah.

14:39.44
youcantcompthis
Allegedly, he's manager he's like locked away a million bucks and he can get it when he's 50 It's in some like trust that. Yeah so that's why he's you know, doing promotions of sports better companies and.

14:44.13
Adz
Oh really.

14:51.18
Adz
Of course, of course.

14:54.50
youcantcompthis
Doing signings again on this type of stuff I mean good for him for actually you know working and doing something I think that's that's great, but but he's like like legitimately. He's been bankrupt. So I think that's the yeah, that's the sad part look I think you know the card part I'm not going to lie to you I went something.

14:57.14
Adz
Is actually yeah, that's for off.

15:13.80
youcantcompthis
Really easy I just went his toppps chrome rookie card card ladders value with that at $600 so I'm going to put this to due you a little bit buy hold or sell and I was send it $600 for a tops Chrome P A 10

15:23.40
Adz
Um.

15:29.19
Adz
How much.

15:31.85
youcantcompthis
600 us

15:37.53
youcantcompthis
And I I think if you're just doing straight out. Yeah, the refractor is selling for 20001 yeah

15:40.81
Adz
Just the normal tops just the normal tops Chrome yeah, be fine I'd be fine with that. Ah yeah.

15:49.76
Adz
What.

15:55.17
youcantcompthis
Pop 36 well the thing about Iverson is and this is what I'm saying at sort of the very start of the segment. This is how important culturally he's been like you can make the argument. He's made more cultural impacts than and Mba impact.

15:58.80
Adz
That's crazy.

16:14.10
Adz
True, Yeah true, Very true.

16:18.67
youcantcompthis
And at the same token. You could also say why don't we comp him straight to Nikco Yokick like Ivison is well think about like their personalities all the things they do off the court. You know you've got ivison.

16:27.84
Adz
You reckon yokage ivison.

16:37.93
youcantcompthis
Having all the wild parties and stuff like that and you've got yoic horse racing and not wanting to do media and just saying he wants to go home. You know we can't wait to go home then you got 1 guy who's the 2 time Mvp and and the champion and the the guy who couldn't come off the bench for the Memphis grisly that that that sort of thought is.

16:50.66
Adz
Yeah.

16:57.55
youcantcompthis
Deeply etched into my head like I remember him he was in the Nba one day the next day he was out you know like he basically got waved by the grizzlies. You know it was a really interesting case study. You could almost call it that so all right.

16:58.96
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

17:07.28
Adz
Yeah.

17:15.49
Adz
It's interesting.

17:16.98
youcantcompthis
I just wanted to recap with you last week's show. So the 2 things I wanted to recap was sgc have you got any new thoughts is there anything been on your mind since that's been happening.

17:26.62
Adz
Um, not really like I think it was interesting news at the time like as I said they already had a Monopoly um I'm not overly fussed like it. It doesn't impact me immediately I'm like okay.

17:42.63
Adz
The Juggernaut is bigger. That was my that was my kind of take.

17:42.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, and look at I'm I'm totally fine with that and I I would agree with what you just said, but the thing that's really came in my mind this week is that there's nothing more been said about it. It's amazing. How quickly the news cycle cycled and it just moved on to the next thing. Yeah.

17:58.60
Adz
Um, yeah, true true, Very true. Um.

18:02.82
youcantcompthis
And that really surprised me and almost makes me wonder if people actually weren't that surprised and that headline was more about creating a headline of the day as opposed to it actually really being news and I think that sort of goes into what you're saying the Juggernaut just.

18:16.22
Adz
Yeah, no, no and that's yeah, you're right.

18:19.56
youcantcompthis
Became bigger you know, actually what changed or you know nothing. So my other takeaway from last week was Herbert Jones so we were talking about Herb Jones last week and I've sort of been in a funny place with I've been enjoying the hobby lately. Ah like doing me wrong. But.

18:38.58
youcantcompthis
People who I enjoy collecting is Fox and halliburton both of them have been sky high at the moment. So I've been very few and far between im buying cards and Herbert Jones on the other hand is like my admiral scofield of days past where you can pick up cards. Willy Nily and it doesn't set your back. You know what? I mean you're not too fussed about.

18:56.53
Adz
Yeah.

18:57.51
youcantcompthis
What it's costing you so look I've actually had a really good week and I've picked up a whole bunch of numbered Herb Jones stuff I've got some autographs I've got some silver prisms and I've got a few more coming on the way. So it's been a really fun week. Actually so if anyone else has been picking up some herb jones and you're excited. Yeah, definitely let me know on socials. It's always good to hear.

19:08.25
Adz
Very nice. Yeah.

19:17.13
Adz
Watch this space on Herb Jones

19:17.39
youcantcompthis
You know people me pick them up now w andba we've been pushing this maybe not as organically as we should have been but stuffing I want to talk about but this week this is legitimate.

19:29.43
Adz
This is the news.

19:32.77
youcantcompthis
W Nba News so Caitlin Clark has signed an exclusive deal with panini. That's also significant from a collector's point of view because Pinini still has the W And Mba Licensing Fanatics doesn't have that. So I think what the concern was is that.

19:34.89
Adz
And.

19:51.96
youcantcompthis
Caitlin Clark has already been signing with fanatics and she's been signing all the the Bowman's Chrome the the Bowman's first rookie rookies or whatever they're called the first autographs you know what? my can? Yeah yeah, you know what my concern was.

19:59.83
Adz
Yeah, so first day Auto effectively next day Auto equivalent.

20:11.45
youcantcompthis
We're going to be having wmba product that didn't have Caitlyn Clark autographs in it which I think particularly in a niche in a product that's already niche you. You don't really have enough legs there to sort of support the rest of the product with you know other prospects. It's a little bit different in Mba.

20:13.60
Adz
Yeah.

20:19.91
Adz
Better. Not.

20:25.76
Adz
Yeah.

20:29.48
youcantcompthis
Like guys are still eating up the the no autograph weby Don Russ order next day orders people are still doing the and prism is still being eaten up because the silvers are selling so well and then the you know the number cards are doing so good and and look this is a bit of a segue into this and not only that.

20:32.58
Adz
I don't understand I Really don't understand that. But.

20:49.47
youcantcompthis
Prism Hobby boxes have not had autographs in them sometimes at all has that been a problem for consumers buying into breaks look of course it does you would rather get an autograph than no autograph I'm not saying that even for a second but I will say this prism is still sold pretty well.

20:51.44
Adz
Yeah.

21:08.37
youcantcompthis
And I think the reality of people buying prism. They're not really that fussed about autographs what they want is the numbered cards. So yeah, anyway back to Caitlin Clark look I think this is really exciting. The only thing I'm a little bit unsure about I actually thought she was going back to school for 1 year so it makes me think that.

21:12.24
Adz
Yeah.

21:26.65
youcantcompthis
She's now going to come out and turn pro. So watch this space for that. Our forensic card ladder did put up a very interesting sale.

21:33.96
Adz
Interest.

21:43.74
youcantcompthis
On March The third so this is four days ago now 2022 Bowman University so this is the prism draft equivalent Caitlyn Clark best of 2022 super fractor 1 of 1 pa 9 sold for sixteen Thousand five hundred the hobby love behind this young lady is is real. Yeah, so I think if you're comparing so like the question is do. We actually know if anything from prism drafters ever sold this high but like i'm.

22:04.19
Adz
Massive. Yeah.

22:19.90
Adz
It's a really good question.

22:21.57
youcantcompthis
Really I don't have any hard evidence behind this but I'm going to go out and a limb and say nothing nothing in the in the Nba sold this way. So I think if you're trying to translate that back to what that means for you know Wnba product when she gets into that I think she's going to sell you know, really really well and look I think that's exciting for.

22:36.35
Adz
Yeah.

22:40.56
youcantcompthis
But W and B a guy so you know, really good news here I think this is a good news story.

22:43.19
Adz
yeah yeah I think I think it it can't be anything but really like it's gonna it's gonna move it. It shoves the W Mba into the spotlight and and that's that's yeah, that's always it's gotta be good.

22:48.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, gonna move.

22:55.22
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

23:02.22
Adz
For the for the hobby.

23:04.26
youcantcompthis
New release court Kings dropped.

23:09.94
Adz
Corkings. Are we excited about core kings this year um I'm really excited about core Kings I don't know what it is but corkings and I have never been friends.

23:11.70
youcantcompthis
About are we excited about it. Why don't we talk about that. Are you excited about core Kings dropping at.

23:25.79
Adz
Never like I've never the sets just never really resonated with me I don't know why? yeah the product. No the product just I don't know there's something that doesn't quite vibe with me I don't know what it is.

23:28.20
youcantcompthis
Do you mean? the sets don't resonate with you or you just haven't hit in Court kings.

23:39.29
youcantcompthis
So I've always had a theory that each product has at least 1 card in it. That's really fantastic and actually I think well court Kings has two blank slate I definitely agree with that and then I think the level 4 is ah ah, excellent.

23:43.40
Adz
Blank Slate. Yeah yeah, I look there and there I Guess they're the the super rare hits. So it's not something that I just go and kind of buyer. Yeah.

23:58.60
youcantcompthis
At a push I would also say too that the on card autographs out of court Kings are excellent. They do have stickers and they have you know quite a fair few stickers and I'm not I'm not trying to defend that but I'd also say you know court kings.

24:04.57
Adz
Now you're right.

24:12.93
youcantcompthis
Really found its place and I think also at the price point too like it's come down quite a bit the last couple of years. The only problem with court Kings and look this is like that in any product that doesn't have very many cards in it. It can be a little bit heartbreaking.

24:14.12
Adz
Yeah, true true.

24:26.58
youcantcompthis
When you're jumping into breaks in this because you sort of have a 1 in 5 1 in 6 chance of you know grabbing a card out of it. It's pretty. It's pretty rough look we did find a couple of cards though that I thought were pretty interesting. A one of one I can never say this word art art.

24:30.71
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, 1 of 1 art Novo Nevo I don't know.

24:42.89
youcantcompthis
No no nou voil geez I'm just embarrassing myself I'll take your word for it. Let's just move on 1 of 1 wembby hit that is an absolutely beautiful card. The black background with the black uniform and then it's got the the washing tag the laundry tag unit which again is that. That black and white whoever hid that just honestly congratulations to and I hope that just stays in your pc. It's a absolutely spectacular card. Thank you Adam I should have made you say that instead of me trying to say it in the first place though and then the other one I think to you know, really quickly talk about too. So.

25:07.70
Adz
Heart novo.

25:21.52
youcantcompthis
Blank Slates I haven't seen any out yet I don't think the let me rephrase that we haven't seen them because the blasters aren't out yet, but the level fours are definitely hitting ebay at the moment. So If you're looking to you know, pick up a couple you haven't gone in breaks you want to buy singles. Definitely check that Out. What do you think of the level 4 designs this year mate.

25:43.14
Adz
It's um I don't know I they they seem to do how do I say it? they they're good. They they're good I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna say they're my favorites. Um. I think when we had was it Matt Tabe we had on the show because he's got a collection of them. The level fours. Yeah yeah, he loves and he loves the level fours. Um I don't mind this years

26:02.83
youcantcompthis
He is literally Mr court Kings that's correct. Yeah, love you love the letter? Yeah, um.

26:15.18
youcantcompthis
A few episodes back. We did a segment where we we ranked them all in order of preference and I gotta tell you I think for me this would be like middling down towards the bottom and I'm still staying with my 1718 pick I think that was amazing. The thing I do like.

26:27.92
Adz
17 at year.

26:31.34
youcantcompthis
What I do like about this though is the color match I think they've done a really really good job on that and I think some of the designs. Sorry some of the color matches in the design look very good. So.

26:42.15
Adz
What was the? um oh what's the player did did dirt hang on bear with me I like the color match. But it's I So I'm looking at the the the grady dick one of course because yep, um.

26:51.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, Mr. Big. Yeah yeah, lovely.

26:59.40
Adz
Love the color match surrounding but the black and white the like the gray scaling image of the player I don't know I feel like that takes away from the quality but I understand why they're doing it. But I I.

27:05.83
youcantcompthis
You don't like them. Okay.

27:12.77
youcantcompthis
It feels to me like it gives the card some depth almost like it's 3 d yeah.

27:17.58
Adz
Yeah I mean I'm like the so we've got I've looked at a couple of I've got the the narji 1 right? and that seems okay, but the yeah the grady did just I feel like the black and white the the gray detracts from it I don't know.

27:29.99
youcantcompthis
Okay, like a black one and right? Yeah, Okay, yeah, definitely best work.

27:37.50
Adz
Ah, yeah, yeah, definitely not their best work. But um, certainly not their worst. How's that.

27:43.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's fine. All right now we really owe this young man. Ah an apology she it jus Alexander S G We apologize.

27:56.20
Adz
Now Yeah, right? Fine fine.

28:01.54
youcantcompthis
We haven't given this kid enough Hobby Love for whatever reason that is we have spoken about the thunder. Yeah so Sga is just up across the board I Think that's the easiest way to to say what we're about to say and.

28:08.60
Adz
Someone's given him a bit of Hobby. Love.

28:18.95
youcantcompthis
He's having some really really big sales happening at the moment. So I think we talk about that a little bit 2018 national treasures vertical rpa number to 99 last sold for twenty one thousand nearly twenty two Thousand usd you know I think once you're getting up into that ten Thousand Fifty Thousand Twenty Thousand Dollars mark

28:41.30
Adz
Just look at the slide not the slide the reverse slide like look at the climb on it. Yeah, like it looks I give it's coming the other way. It's like a massive slide but it's yeah, the spike is huge.

28:45.24
youcantcompthis
The latter look at the latter look more why. My feelings about these prices is people are no longer prospecting. These are like real prices that you're you know, putting money into something that you know you you can see and that you really believe in that's sort of my my feeling about this and so.

29:04.40
Adz
True. He's sga is is elevated this year and I think it's with this success of okay c do not I mean like he is the front of that of that charge.

29:16.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, sure and I'll turn that around. But do you think that they're playing well because of him or do you think it's okay so if you okay so in that case, if you traded him 1 for 1 for.

29:23.27
Adz
Nothing. They're a good tame.

29:34.39
youcantcompthis
You name any other point card.

29:36.46
Adz
Cool I take Halliburton over.

29:38.49
youcantcompthis
Okay, sure Halliburton do you think that would have still the same team success.

29:47.81
Adz
Maybe you're right? No Hallibanton would be bad because um, he would he would desist more than he's a scoring machine.

29:53.25
youcantcompthis
So I will say this openly I need to watch more thunder that doesn't mean I haven't watched much thunder. Do you know what? I'm saying like I think I need to watch more I think these guys are really good and so my observation about shay is he's such a really interesting hybrid in that he can set people up.

30:02.77
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

30:11.77
youcantcompthis
And he can score when needed. He can be aggressive. We need He can be passive and I think that's what he's really good at just like picking the right moments inserting himself when he needs to you know, being passive when he needs to like he has this really uncanny knack just to sort of do things the right thing at the right time. So.

30:11.85
Adz
Yeah, ah.

30:20.17
Adz
Yeah.

30:27.81
Adz
Yeah.

30:29.99
youcantcompthis
That's all where I'm going with this man like I actually really wonder if you know is he one of the best 5 plays in the league at the moment.

30:39.83
Adz
Wow. Is he.

30:42.67
youcantcompthis
If he doesn't get named all Nba this year I will be shocked outraged is going too far like you know we need to temper this a little bit but outrage.

30:48.98
Adz
Oh.

30:56.96
Adz
Yeah, outrage is probably a little on the um.

31:00.67
youcantcompthis
Particularly the way the not the judging but the these awards get directed and driven like it's sometimes they need to be really good for 3 years before they get recognized and that's a little bit annoying about the Nba. So if you look so just going for.

31:03.60
Adz
Do.

31:17.68
youcantcompthis
Pure sample size here. So go to his silver psa ten s go to the all-time graph you see a very big uptick all the way up to 1500 then of course it's slid down and then he's got this very progressive upward. So at one point you could have picked 1 up for 400 currently sitting around. Let's call it seven hundred six ninety five it's the last sale. Do you think that's a good buy at the moment pop is 603 so we're getting up there with pop.

31:47.99
Adz
It's it's one of those. It's gonna be it's gonna be 1 of those pop count cards I think.

31:53.00
youcantcompthis
So when is it a good price and when is it a bad price I'll leave that with you.

32:02.70
Adz
Um I think 600 is okay, 5 to 600 he needs to do more for it to go up. But I think he's on that trajectory I might be being a bit critical. Pop 600 is actually not too bad considering the era he's from.

32:22.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so my feeling is that this is gonna be a thousand dollars card in the next in the next two years I would also add to that too the pop on that is definitely gonna go up because this is 2018 this is the same year as Luca like.

32:29.76
Adz
I Think it might yeah.

32:41.98
youcantcompthis
Let's not mince our words here. Those cards are out there. It's just a matter of time till they get you know, sent off and graded. So I think you know we know we know Psa has got the capacity that they'll be able to lean on our sgc if they get a bit banked up. You know.

32:44.59
Adz
Um, ah yep, yeah quick. So.

32:59.34
Adz
And um I have a thought now I'm not criticizing because he's come combat Canadian but if if okay see it is his success or his Hobby. Love. Going to be based on the Thunder's success.

33:15.72
youcantcompthis
I Actually think he's stepped over that now I think people are I Really think people are recognizing his talent so much and then like look at that graph man I Really think that graph is you look at his all time graph I Actually don't really think that's that much team generated.

33:18.19
Adz
Okay.

33:24.20
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:34.10
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a bill. Yeah yeah.

33:35.10
youcantcompthis
If you really think about how much success they've had. It's been pretty minimal but at the same time and this is my argument from before I think a lot of the success that they have had is behind shake and his ability to just like do it needs to be done so consistently. Yeah, yeah.

33:46.23
Adz
Ah.

33:48.35
Adz
He gets it done and he is a scoring machine.

33:54.83
youcantcompthis
Card ladder sale this is from again the third of March 1 of 1 black PS a 9 sold for one hundred and ninety six thousand us dollars so not canadian what? what would that that be around three hundred Thousand Canadian it's

34:05.69
Adz
Not Canadian dollars I.

34:14.77
youcantcompthis
Look that to me is staggering like that is just an absolutely you know, ridiculous amount of money and again that sort of just cements that theory in my head that you know this guy is really here to stay hobby wise and that $600 is a goodbye. Yeah, hit me hundred.

34:20.20
Adz
Yep.

34:25.21
Adz
So oh I'll po I'll pose the question 96000 us for this. What is the bounty on the luca.

34:33.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:41.37
Adz
To Million dollar bounty so is this a good is this a bargain at a hundred and ninety Six k

34:42.65
youcantcompthis
Look yeah.

34:50.86
youcantcompthis
Look I got to tell you I think the person who bought this for that much is seeing something that I'm not I mean in saying that that amount of money is very hard for me to correctly fathom. Yeah, because.

35:05.40
Adz
Fathom. It's all put it putting it into to yeah context is is is Jeff.

35:09.20
youcantcompthis
Like stealing your words I Really think that's a future price I don't see if you sold that tomorrow I I find it very very difficult to believe that you're going to get that same price or more.

35:17.16
Adz
Sure you well Ken Golden gets the best price doesn' he anyway? Um, no, no, we are. But if so if the if there is a million dollar bounty

35:23.74
youcantcompthis
Ah, that that was not a sponsored segment either people that was yeah, we just adly being here. Yeah.

35:35.80
Adz
On the Luka Donitch from this set from this year same year as as sga is luca 5 times better than she hobby wise I'm talking. Okay.

35:36.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, like.

35:46.27
youcantcompthis
He's not 5 times better. But I I don't look I don't think you I don't think you need to be do you know what? I mean I don't think that's really how the narrative goes but Luca is ah Luca is a hobby darling and maybe.

35:53.89
Adz
If he wins an Mvp is at a two hundred and fifty Thousand dollars card hobby darling here is he's a golden child.

36:03.21
youcantcompthis
How many he is come on man. Maybe you can make the argument argument ThatSG is that no, he's like the the connoisseurs choice men.

36:07.84
Adz
The that my little Anti-luca Protest has had an impact. No the Conisseur's choice.

36:19.86
youcantcompthis
Two hundred Thousand u s dollars for that card I mean come on. That's like you know you can't ignore this this business. It's um to steal a word from a podcast that's nonsense you know last week we did a segment about victor versus the field.

36:23.87
Adz
It's a chef special.

36:30.15
Adz
Yeah, nonsensical.

36:39.20
youcantcompthis
And we had a little bit of back and forth on that and then we put it up onto socials and we had a lot of comments. So thank you everyone for for jumping in I said we just really quickly run through some of them. Maybe not all of them because there is 50 something comments here. So let's quickly go through a couple ados.

36:39.40
Adz
We did.

36:56.65
youcantcompthis
Wants to go in a time machine and buy the tops Auto straight off the website. Yeah yeah.

37:03.85
Adz
Yep, yeah yeah, is that is that is that? um so he's like what is it a wembin what? how does he have our God he's it easy is it is a wemb in ya man.

37:14.55
youcantcompthis
He's a wembin ya man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right I don't think our delivery of punchline is comedy is quite as good. Yeah yeah.

37:18.99
Adz
Not a wimb na man.

37:24.42
Adz
We have to get Ados back on to to deliver the joke again. Yep said we'd butcher it.

37:33.17
youcantcompthis
Luro Wants a kobe a shengoon or ki.

37:36.11
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, it's fair.

37:40.70
youcantcompthis
David Ralph Luca Halley Paulo Sga so basically I think if we just want to summarize this into 1 line. Basically everyone's going for the field I think that's the you know if the synopsis here Jared Beg would go mg inserts.

37:53.84
Adz
Oh.

38:00.00
youcantcompthis
Which is gonna be our next this week's Facebook post show me your mj inserts for less than $100 and less than $200 and aesthetically pleasing ones because this is what I'll be mulling over in my head this week is it.

38:10.70
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

38:18.19
youcantcompthis
Basically just the right play just to be buying up any image Mj Insert getting it graded and just putting it away and waiting for that spike to happen.

38:27.36
Adz
Marette Lebron ones is that gonna have the same impact.

38:30.42
youcantcompthis
I wonder if you have to just tack on another 10 years onto your project if you do that though. Yeah, definitely luke by very.

38:34.34
Adz
Yeah, yeah, be can pick him up nice and cheap now I guess but you're right look. It looks very very the field.

38:44.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah Jono Michaels buying the field Luke Batterson I'm not sure if you've commented before ma so welcome buying the field kobe auto or Lebron if you could afford it. Yeah definitely I think that's the big Alw's buying Luca Autos Ryan Miller 1 of 1 luca auto.

38:56.69
Adz
Ah.

39:02.56
Adz
If it's 1 on 1 a luca order otherwise like a hundred other matters cast on card orders. Okay, it did some of the field.

39:03.85
youcantcompthis
Okay.

39:12.67
youcantcompthis
Blair Mj or Lebron George is buying Patrick Ewing which surprise surprise if you don't know George yeah, he might yeah all righty Andrew Sudyho probably put our first.

39:19.60
Adz
Probably get multiple Patrick ewings for that.

39:30.73
youcantcompthis
Detailed answer in mass-produced silver rookie will only come down once the pop goes up. We'd rather spend the money on sealed product of his rookie here as he's not signing with penini sealed product would hold more value long term especially if low print golds 2 etc aren't pulled. Going further into his career so should drive the price up. Look I don't disagree with that in principle. My only thing at the moment is that sealed prices from retail and recommended prices are just so high at the moment on the secondary market like I think that in 1617 Hundred percent that's right seventeen eighteen yes you're putting it away in early early eighteen nineteen yes but something triggered and the prices have come down a lot but it's still not back yet. You know I think the other thing about that too is putting away sealed product your money goes away.

40:23.23
Adz
Um, get.

40:30.34
youcantcompthis
Pretty quick like if you spend $10000 on sealed product. What are you going to get 10 boxes. You know like it's a lot of money for not that many boxes like it's so depends on your budget obviously. But yeah, it's a tough one. But yes Andrew I think you're right mate but I just think it's maybe a bit tricky at the moment. Yeah.

40:37.20
Adz
Um, yeah, you yeah, that's that's true.

40:47.14
Adz
Just a tiny bit.

40:50.10
youcantcompthis
Mark I'd like to add a Steph Kari Kaboom to the collection Corey you you might have helped me up this one ad Conor Bedard all day. Okay, good Matthew hull I'm buying Adley Rushman or Jackson holiday in ml b.

40:59.53
Adz
To.

41:08.86
youcantcompthis
Actually I'm going to delete this out of the podcast. This is the and Nba Podcast Matthew you know, better than that mate Luke Batderson like

41:16.53
Adz
can I can I can I quote ah Matt Hull's little hashtag hate is gonna hate.

41:19.40
youcantcompthis
only if it's ah I was because I only if it's Mba related but yeah you can take that Luke Batterison I ended up buying myself a curry spectra on cart. Autograph yeah, look I think I don't think that's crazy actually.

41:25.87
Adz
Hate is gonna hate. Yep.

41:38.90
Adz
Ah.

41:38.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, Amir and me is our sponsor with the bang man. It's probably a good time to segue into a bit of bang man. Hey.

41:45.22
Adz
Yes. And say we got the yeah.

42:13.81
youcantcompthis
Alrighty the bang man March gold edition is now live limited edition number of boxes being packed up which include 23 24 prism hobby packet 23 24 prism hobby pack and again. 22 23 select hobby packet 21 22 select hobby packet 21 22 select h 23 22 prism fast break payment options pay Id paypal after pay zip pay. He's got it all there for you 6 big packets 3 rookie classes. Four ninety nine delivered to your door in the unmissible bang man packaging so emira thank you so much for your support and now we can segue back to your answer I think a lebron James piece a ten blank slate. Yeah or an mj refractor. For that kind of money. Yeah, look It's a real thing at the moment like the prices that these when bananas are going for are ah absolutely legit. So and you you can I think this has been a really fun conversation for me because it really does sort of channel that sort of you have this much money. Where's your best money being spent into and it's really interesting that.

43:29.43
youcantcompthis
Collectors are more going away from that. So yeah, exactly yeah.

43:32.44
Adz
It's very. It's actually insightful to see yeah where everybody's at as far as the height around wembby like no, nobody's saying that Wembby's gonna be terrible but they just they're just yeah I think that the the the Silver Prism. Like um I don't know panic buying or the the spike that happens initially people are very wary of it.

43:55.30
youcantcompthis
Look I get I get the hype around this kid and I I actually don't think people are silly paying these paying this like just for the record in saying that no one wants to be paying future prices and then we've we've all seen the huge.

44:01.16
Adz
Oh.

44:08.42
Adz
Yeah.

44:13.72
youcantcompthis
Population numbers of these cars that they can get up to like two Thousand Lucas is is crazy town and so what if it gets to 3000 the centerering on these cars this year looks actually pretty good. We've ragged on pinini for quality control for the last two years actually I think that.

44:22.34
Adz
Yeah.

44:27.98
Adz
Child.

44:33.57
youcantcompthis
Has mostly been you know, fixed up. So yeah, right actually this next segment is non Mba related. It's actually about ice hockey but I want to bring this back to basketball in in some small capacity. So.

44:34.26
Adz
Yeah I agree I Definitely agree.

44:47.40
Adz
Yeah.

44:49.97
youcantcompthis
David Adams have put out a million dollar bounty for Conor Bedard outburst gold 1 of one young guns. So for people like me that know nothing about ice hockey. Um, he's like the next lebron James I reached out to my hockey buddy. This is what he told me he's like the next lebron James.

44:54.11
Adz
Um, woo.

45:03.92
Adz
Fifth.

45:07.72
youcantcompthis
It's the one that everyone's go to be collecting in ice hockey and the young guns is like their they're rookie cards. Basically so that's the they're the one that everyone collects. So how am I going to turn this back into basketball talk look. We spoke tonight about w andba the caitlyn cards host signing with penny knee. Some of this comps that she's been done. We've just been talking about some pretty high prices with win banardo now we're talking about million Dollar bounties I'm trying to find some positivity and in the hobby at the moment. So I know we have had a little bit of local. Ah.

45:27.95
Adz
Yeah.

45:44.68
youcantcompthis
Negative news with you know, razzes going bad and admins of groups leaving changing hands. You know whichever words you want to use it So you know.

45:48.92
Adz
Yep.

45:53.70
Adz
Yeah, yeah, we we like there is there. The the hobby is in a good spot and I think we need to to Occasionally, we just need to refocus in on that.

46:00.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and that's exactly you know what? I really want to talk about here and you know I I think this stuff makes it really exciting. So look you can say what I'm about to say is misguided and and I'm wrong and that's fine and I'll accept this criticism but I ripped 3 prism blasts this week and.

46:07.70
Adz
Yeah.

46:19.20
youcantcompthis
I'm not going to lie to you I got swept up in the whole victor Wembberana Chase I hit absolutely zero but it was fun like the excitement's there and I think these bounties these high prices coming out of you know after sale prices like it.

46:32.97
Adz
Yeah, it's it's it hypes everybody up, um not everybody's gonna hit a wembby 1 of 1 or you know what I mean like.

46:35.69
youcantcompthis
Kind of does make it fun. You know? And yeah, so.

46:45.81
youcantcompthis
I'm not gonna lie to you I was kind of hoping for a number when be out of that Blas of I'm not gonna lie to you I had my hope my hopes set high.

46:50.71
Adz
We'd all love it right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's it's one of those things that you got to be in its winner right? So getting a blaster and having a crack seems like fun.

46:59.82
youcantcompthis
you do you do right we are going from $1000000 bounty to basically like mba nerddom mba university we spoke with these guys last week. They are just smashing out the content at the moment at. And mba underscore university if you do not follow them on twitter do now this is about anthony black anthony black's shooting mechanics have vastly increased in speed from college. He also shot 30% on ninety three 3 s from college line and is shooting 40% on 83 mba 3 so. If. You don't know the nba 3 point line is further back than the college three. So usually guys shoot worse in their first year the pro is not better. So this is. It's a big thing. He is a great defender who is clearly put in a ton of work. Can't wait to see what he does for the full summer I was already talking about anthony black a few weeks back. Um'm just doubling down on this again with again with like the um, the echo chamber I found a couple of sold prices too on ebay. He's not on card ladder don't even bother looking at he's not nearly a big enough fish to get his own card lader page the blue ice to nu 1 25 sold for $112.

48:06.86
Adz
No, not yet. Okay.

48:14.35
youcantcompthis
Ah, gold shimmer to 10 sold for $910 which I was very surprised about that his silver sold for ninety nine cents so again we've found 3 very different price points for you know for different collectors to jump in this next one is for al so this is the red dice prism monopoly card that's sold for.

48:18.80
Adz
Very interesting.

48:24.47
Adz
Yeah.

48:33.66
youcantcompthis
34 USDollars where are you at with monopoly because like.

48:36.77
Adz
I Because of the the scarcity I guess locally of the product I don't see it So I don't I don't look for it. But.

48:44.41
youcantcompthis
But if you really wanted some. You could go to ebay and buy some and get it shipped out right? Why have you not done that Yeah, that's where I'm at too like I I haven't ripped any of that stuff I'd rather just rip like a straight prison blaster. But.

48:48.77
Adz
Yeah, because it's gimmicky. It's I if I was gonna search for prism I Go't get prism.

49:00.63
Adz
Um, yeah, well.

49:03.39
youcantcompthis
After sales of it are doing a lot better than what I would expecting it to be and and people seem to enjoy it like I don't think you're using.

49:09.63
Adz
The game like is it has anyone played it all right? all right? So this is this is more of it.

49:16.55
youcantcompthis
No, one's going onto ebay and spending thirty five us dollars on an Anthony Black and then playing within a game like no one's doing that man.

49:23.99
Adz
I played magic the gathering for like 20 years so I'm used to playing with very expensive bits of cardboard but you can you can topload them and.

49:30.52
youcantcompthis
So all right? Okay I'll admit if I'm wrong on that one but I I just I find that very difficult to believe that's all.

49:38.99
Adz
Just I can't imagine you're shuffling them and throwing them around and stuff but surely surely there'd be some fun to be had on. Ah I don't know how the game works. So um, I'd be curious I'd be very curious. Um.

49:47.90
youcantcompthis
So segue for 2 seconds you said you've played with very expensive magic cards. What's the most expensive magic card. You've put onto a playing table.

49:56.75
Adz
I end a black lotus I owned I end the power 9 when I played magic the gathering. So.

50:04.64
youcantcompthis
What was that worth at the time. Okay.

50:06.38
Adz
Um, at the time it was ah worth about 6 grand. Um, but yeah, currently there would be worth a little bit. Yeah, we we used to play in an event called the um called masters every year

50:16.37
youcantcompthis
That's some high roller status there. Ah yeah.

50:24.12
youcantcompthis
Ah, okay, yeah.

50:24.92
Adz
For like old school magic. Yeah, and yeah, most of the expensive magic cards were in 1 store which was kind of scary to to fathom the value of cards that were in 1 place being played with and shuffled and.

50:38.58
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

50:42.79
Adz
Like I'm talking like just in sleeves shuffled. it's it's crazy yeah um let's look at some recent sales that do do 20 something us s I'm guessing sold items unlimited black loaders. Oh no.

50:43.32
youcantcompthis
Like yeah right.

51:02.40
Adz
Trying to sell them for 20 grand 10000 us yeah 9 to thirteen nine to 13 is a range that I'm seeing at the moment 13000 yeah friendland unlimited black loaders indecent Nick like.

51:04.72
youcantcompthis
Just a lazy 10000 us

51:20.66
youcantcompthis
All right this next segment. Not so happy Scotty Barnes injury ah

51:20.87
Adz
B G S eight.

51:27.15
Adz
Ah, talk about Positivity Now we're in the injury run some of the something in that's not good.

51:28.89
youcantcompthis
Out indefinitely look I think this is the type of injury that he's going to be totally fine from and there's going to be no ongoing lingering issues in saying that if they keep him out for the rest of the year I'm not going to be shocked because the raptors.

51:41.92
Adz
Let's hope so.

51:46.96
youcantcompthis
Already emptied out a significant part of their roster I don't really think they're interested in winning that much this year look I'm actually sad is not the right word but I'm not happy about this I've really enjoyed watching Scotty Barnes this year I think that there's not that many players can do what he can do on both ends of the floor and he is really.

51:48.80
Adz
Yeah.

51:58.47
Adz
Yeah, yeah, a great.

52:06.56
youcantcompthis
Come out as a leader this year I've really watched enjoyed it watching him play so he doesn't have a card ladder page guys get this fixed. It's Scotty Barnes for god's sake I did find some coms though. Silver Raw Psa Psa

52:09.22
Adz
Yeah.

52:15.70
Adz
Yeah.

52:25.21
youcantcompthis
Raw prism silver rookie card sold for $20 and two cents I think that's a nice buy I think if you're looking at someone who in the future.

52:30.56
Adz
Chitching there for sure I should stop picking on people that play in Canada or leaving Canada maybe canadians need to buy more cards.

52:40.96
youcantcompthis
I think it I think it matters but I don't think it matters because if he's all Nba in the future I think he'll pick up you know? Yeah I do think what you're saying is probably true though if he was in a different market like if he was in New York we'd be talking about different prices here.

52:48.74
Adz
Think Barnes is daughter right? He'll be okay.

52:57.48
Adz
Oh.

53:00.85
youcantcompthis
Like we're seeing what's happened to Jalen Brunson and I think Scotty Barnes is you know 3 times better than him. Russell Westbrook is also injured fracture in his left hand look if we know anything about Russell Westbrook is that he'll push his body.

53:03.80
Adz
Yeah, that's a good point. That's a really good point T sorry.

53:17.55
Adz
Yes.

53:17.92
youcantcompthis
As hard as he physically can like he came back from what he had a meniscus surgery and it was back what three weeks later or something ridiculous. You know? Yeah yeah, so I think look so like people never gamble on basketball.

53:22.58
Adz
Something like he's yeah he he's hungry. He will get out the court for sure.

53:34.20
youcantcompthis
I was actually thinking he was like a very dark horse to be 6 man of the year I think that completely you know destroys any chance of that happening now. So that's probably my only impact that I see happening here look card wise nothing at all. Honestly I don't see anything about this all right.

53:42.92
Adz
Ah.

53:54.25
youcantcompthis
Froffing over some cards Steph Curry Kaleidoscope we just need to talk about prism just a little bit more I was really just trying to find another reason to talk about prism. We spoke about the numbered rookie cards I think it's is really just time to talk about some of the inserts they look good.

54:09.16
Adz
Young I'm down with that.

54:12.40
youcantcompthis
Look good this year the clyoscopic card in Silver looks amazing and the photo I took of it looks looks okay, but it took me a long time to get it that good and it looks way better when it's actually in your hand. So if you do get one of these you buy them on the aftermarket you get them in breaks.

54:21.17
Adz
Doesn't do it justice.

54:31.98
youcantcompthis
Look I would say do you hang on to them I think they're just really nice cards. Do I think they're gonna go up in the future and value. No I don't there's gonna be a million of these you know it doesn't matter in that sense but they're really good cards and then someone said and I do apologize whoever's idea I'm stealing this from but I'm trying my best to give you credit.

54:33.19
Adz
Um.

54:41.50
Adz
Yep.

54:51.11
youcantcompthis
They're almost like a baby color blast like yeah and I agreeve that 100% by the way and I actually think piniti's done this many many many times that's not the you know. First example, we can think of this.

54:52.14
Adz
Like it I like it I like the thought yeah behind that? yeah.

55:06.82
Adz
Well, you've got was that the the mini kabooms there you go.

55:08.68
youcantcompthis
But I think that's good. Yeah, the baby couldbooms you're right? and so you can't afford a color blast Great shopping. The price range that you can go at and get a cleidoscopic their sick cards. Yeah.

55:19.89
Adz
But yeah, here's a carb that's got a similar aesthetic about it that isn't an affordable price and I think that's really thoughtful and smart of of.

55:31.10
youcantcompthis
That's 2% of the price of a ka boom like honestly like that's realistically what we're talking about here. So yeah, right? Kobe white has been playing really really well for the bulls I gets.

55:34.34
Adz
Yeah, a great a great.

55:43.66
Adz
He has.

55:46.47
youcantcompthis
Again, my boys unfortunately 37 points 7 assist 5 rebounds now I put this into the sheet for 2 reasons ad because his pop on his cards is just like ridiculous. Yeah and so.

55:57.89
Adz
Is isn't it. He's an E like that One of the most graded players.

56:06.36
youcantcompthis
Part of the conversation like for me, the reason why I find this interesting is because his prices are really low. So a silver psa ten is sitting at the moment for about $43 and if you look at the trend here. He's basically been trading around that for for 2 years now he hasn't barely moved.

56:12.85
Adz
Shop. Okay.

56:25.88
youcantcompthis
But where I'm going with this is in the last two two years I think he's gotten a lot better and so at what point do you kind of start to say well actually this is pretty good value I should be picking these up. Keeping in mind the pop on these is one thousand six hundred and sixty eight and that's just in silver psa 10.

56:43.29
Adz
So I have a question now if there's so many of his psa where do we look for Kobe white because I have a thought I'm on card ladder at the moment.

56:56.63
youcantcompthis
Show. Um, yeah, yeah, So yeah.

57:01.91
Adz
Kaboonm I think the kaboom is ah is a is a really smart investment. Also you might find a kaboom that's graded at bg bgs 9 but that might up that that last sold. For a hundred and twenty six dollars ninety found one for below two hundred bucks we mean it's pierced b gs nine but that's it that's it but like it's a rookie. It's as rookie cart. It's a good boom.

57:17.49
youcantcompthis
Hundred Twenty six nine yeah yeah 100 but yeah great I mean if you really hate it. You can always cross it over right? yeah.

57:35.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, all right? So basically what we're coming to the conclusion is he's overgraded. Let the silvers go look at other stuff and and that's is where I'm going with this is he ah a buy at the moment.

57:37.68
Adz
Like I feel like it's a ah tick.

57:51.28
Adz
I think there's areas with which he is a buy um people obviously don't agree with the kaboom that could booms last selling for like hundred and twenty five bucks but down heaps. Um.

57:52.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

58:05.98
Adz
But yeah, like I think I think if a player is overgraded in that that flooded sense. Yeah I think the the sensible move is um yeah I think the sensible movie is to look at other cards where the population counts aren't high.

58:09.16
youcantcompthis
1 sure just.

58:18.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Ah, yeah, look I I.

58:23.45
Adz
But the card quality is high. So if if you go to prism Again, you get the numbered stuff right? yeah.

58:29.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, I'm just at the point now where I think his talent is exceeding his card prices now that doesn't come without caveats I think the bulls are going to be tricky in the next couple of years because the only thing the bulls management have shown is that they want to hang on to.

58:36.00
Adz
Yeah I agree.

58:48.69
youcantcompthis
Whatever veterans they've got to try and win 2 more games this year but it might mean that the development of the young players is you know, not going to be as good like playing Dero as many minutes as they are giving him as many shots to me that is illogical and it doesn't make sense. The whole roster construction doesn't make sense I've already said this and they need to blow the team up. So I think that could impact him now that's the cup half empty cup half full is that actually I think him and Pat Williams is going to do quite well together.

59:09.69
Adz
Yeah, a great completely great.

59:22.50
Adz
Yeah, a grade that's interesting. Yeah.

59:24.64
youcantcompthis
I think Pat Williams needs someone like Kobe white actually a lot and vice versa I think defensively Kobe white needs someone like you know Pat Wheels to basically mop up all these shortcomings look. Do I think this is an absolute home run. Absolutely not. But I also think we can't not at least explore the idea.

59:43.48
Adz
9

59:50.54
Adz
I Think um I think it's worth it and I think the kabooms are good. A rookie caboo is actually not a bad card just thinking Anyway, yeah.

59:55.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah, absolutely right? We're pretty much up to the owl mark. So why don't we do 2 more things and then we'll tie off. We've got your 2 favorite segments and this is the one I wanted to do the most this show. So it's Chet Gold Prism psa 10

01:00:06.24
Adz
I'm I'm down with that.

01:00:14.43
Adz
Yep.

01:00:14.67
youcantcompthis
Sold for thirty six thousand versus Devin Booker Gold number to 10 bgs nine also sold for yeah this one this one to me is probably the juiciest we've done in a long time because you've got the guy who is.

01:00:20.60
Adz
I Really love these carve Ladder comparisons have to say have to say.

01:00:32.18
youcantcompthis
All raw power oozing potential talk smack to everybody that you can possibly do it to sort of exploded onto the scene I think that's the best way to describe Chet whereas you've got Devin Booker came into the league a little bit green. You know.

01:00:44.61
Adz
That.

01:00:51.43
youcantcompthis
Super young like he couldn't even grow a beard when he first came into the league whereas now he's pretty confident and he's got some swagger but he's on a loaded veteran team that I'm not saying he's holding him back. But if he was on a less of a team. He'd be getting more numbers I think that's very reasonable to say.

01:00:52.90
Adz
Still cart.

01:01:05.35
Adz
yeah yeah I guess with someone like kaie on the team someone like Beil yeah, he's some yeah overshadowed I guess is the the right word. Sure.

01:01:12.30
youcantcompthis
And Bill. Yeah look I think they're using booker a lot I don't think his utilization is a problem but you know obviously if you've got these other 2 guys on the team. Your shots are going to go down but look irigars of that.

01:01:25.31
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:01:29.84
youcantcompthis
Which one are you buying.

01:01:34.88
youcantcompthis
You have to pick one. You can't choose another card that's killing the exercise really all right? You got to tell me why because I'm going for the booker. Okay.

01:01:36.45
Adz
Just I have to pick one of them I'm taking the chet. Yeah because it's a Pi because it's a Pi because it's a PS a 10 because of the grade. That's that's purely it. Um, yeah yeah, I Do I do think long term there is There is definitely value in in booker. But yeah.

01:01:58.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's fine. Sure. Ah.

01:02:10.48
youcantcompthis
So I'm going for booker and the reason is because I see your point about the pc 10 and that's fine. The only thing I would say to that is dickling the lower numbered stuff like great matters but like does it really? There's still only ten of them. You know I mean it's like.

01:02:25.97
Adz
True I agree agree but the chance that that's pop one because of it difference between being pop one and pop 3 or something.

01:02:29.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally yeah I see your point but like that that I can I can I can live with that at at number to 10 now I'm going a booker because I think he's more of a sure thing.

01:02:39.65
Adz
Yeah.

01:02:48.12
youcantcompthis
He's very consistent I think he's got an Nba body that's going to last while I think he's going to be pretty robust I feel not stressed about that whereas with chet all the bravado explosion onto the scene. The trash talk I get that I see all that but you already sat at an entire year.

01:02:57.31
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:04.36
Adz
Yeah, that's where he refined his trash talking.

01:03:07.26
youcantcompthis
And 36 k on somebody that to me is going to be a bit of an injury thing so people have been saying.

01:03:14.16
Adz
When you said 36 k I thought that you meant his weight.

01:03:19.12
youcantcompthis
But if there was 10 of that guy that wouldn't be 36 k so so the the victor naysayers have been saying. He's an injury risk. He's going to be injury prone. He's not going to survive in the league but he's still in my mind stronger than chet.

01:03:31.44
Adz
Oh.

01:03:37.67
youcantcompthis
Possibly will ever be and that look and that's fine like look at look at Kd you know it doesn't matter that you've got that type of body type like you can survive but at the same time I I actually think Chet is more of a risk than women yaa. So yeah.

01:03:39.89
Adz
Inch That's big. Yeah.

01:03:51.79
Adz
I like it I don't know I just I I I don't know I'm worried the book is gonna fade into to irreevance because K because K D overshadows him.

01:03:55.18
youcantcompthis
That's why I'm going for the book. Thanks.

01:04:01.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no possibly hes still got a long time in his cree though. So you know be right? all right? We're going to finish off with your favorite player in the league which is Luka Don Chi vertical national treasures rpa to ninety nine.

01:04:10.53
Adz
That's fair.

01:04:16.91
Adz
I'm taking Um, ah I'm taking the other one.

01:04:21.66
youcantcompthis
$35000 and a tatum $30000 basically the same card. Yep.

01:04:26.63
Adz
Um, ah basically the same card. Can I say that the Luca patch is way way way better than the tatum one.

01:04:34.23
youcantcompthis
Way. Yeah, you can say that.

01:04:40.22
Adz
Okay, well I will say that then um, the the luca patch is way way way better than that's 8 of 1 and it's it's there's substance to it like where did that is that part of the 0

01:04:44.55
youcantcompthis
The three color versus the 2 color matters a lot doesn't it. Is so yeah, like.

01:04:58.18
Adz
Or the b in the Boston now I meant the the Tatum like just a little square. The Luke is the d from Dallas for sure right? or Don Titch at the back. Um.

01:05:00.44
youcantcompthis
I think that's the d from the Dallas ah sorry I thought we're talking about the luca code.

01:05:10.75
youcantcompthis
Maybe oh.

01:05:16.61
Adz
Yeah I couldn't as much.

01:05:17.21
youcantcompthis
So what are you taking.

01:05:24.90
Adz
Huh.

01:05:24.62
youcantcompthis
Because off the air you talking to me about what the boys said on sports cards and nonsense I think that's the perfect time for you to.

01:05:30.13
Adz
Yeah I well I was it was the that Mike said he was going to put all of his tatums in a hold box because he reckons he's undervalued I'm actually going to go with the Tatum because it is authenticated. It isn't graded.

01:05:36.29
youcantcompthis
Right.

01:05:42.49
youcantcompthis
And that.

01:05:49.35
Adz
Versus a nine point five on the tatum as much as I talk about verification and authentication. This is a number to 99 card not in a not a one of 1

01:05:58.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah, the the car's not graded the loop that that I should have added that in that is correct man. Yeah.

01:06:05.68
Adz
Yeah, so I I'm gonna go for the Tatum because it's a a bgs 9.5. Um, but don't know what the pop count is but I imagine it'd be less than 99 um, that's just a guess. But yeah. Yeah I do I I prefer the Lucas Pat the Luca patch. Um I reckon it wasn't graded on purpose because national treasures can grade very poorly. Um, the Luca's got an amazing looking patch but I still think the Tatum's underrated undervalued for what it is.

01:06:33.38
youcantcompthis
Ah, definitely.

01:06:40.69
youcantcompthis
And that fits exactly into Mike's narrative isn't it that you basically got where you could actually make the argument that the Tatum is a better card because it's bgs 9.5 but it's nearly six thousand dollars cheaper yeah

01:06:45.57
Adz
Yep.

01:06:53.81
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:07:00.48
youcantcompthis
This is a tough one.

01:07:04.34
Adz
Well if you go with the Luca. We can get 1 each.

01:07:09.90
youcantcompthis
Look I was probably leaning towards the Luca. Anyway, yeah I'll go with Luka so now I now I need to be able to justify this. So I think that you have more potential to make.

01:07:11.57
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:26.31
youcantcompthis
Ah, high return on investment on the Tatum but I think at the end of the day I'll just stick to what I'll keep this very simple I do think Luka is the hobby darling and I was actually saying this this week in the group chat. Do you think that.

01:07:34.70
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:42.88
youcantcompthis
Dallas is now getting some real chemistry together and actually he and kayri are becoming a good duo. Yeah because what I've noticed about Dallas is they're just running 5%

01:07:50.15
Adz
Every now and then.

01:08:02.19
youcantcompthis
Fast break possessions more like just a little bit and then Luka is holding onto the ball for 2 seconds less per possession and that means Kyrie has a little bit more time to move and the role players have like everything is just they're doing all these like little things I actually think Luca is.

01:08:03.24
Adz
Oh.

01:08:21.60
youcantcompthis
Getting to be a better basketball player. Um I actually think I love watching Luca Play basketball and I I've enjoyed it the last couple of years but I would say at the moment I'm I'm loving it. He is passing. He's always been a good passer but he says sort of.

01:08:22.92
Adz
Interesting.

01:08:35.26
Adz
Ah.

01:08:40.60
Adz
There makes sense. Yeah, yeah, it's fair I'm I'm I'm going the tape tatum not because I don't like Luca I prefer the grade on on this number to 99 and um I do I do think the Tatum's underrated and.

01:08:40.29
youcantcompthis
Passing better at the moment I'm going with the Luca I've just I've just talked myself into it. Yep.

01:08:49.91
youcantcompthis
Yep, that's yeah.

01:08:56.39
Adz
This is probably ta's best chance to to win it all this year because the celtics are in very scary form and a championship might just change the narrative because I know that's a monster roster. But if the celtics take the chip that man's the one that's winning finals Mvp.

01:09:02.21
youcantcompthis
That roster is an absolute monster. So yeah.

01:09:12.50
youcantcompthis
Unless Jalen Brown does yeah he's the centerpiece here final thoughts at great.

01:09:15.10
Adz
I still reckon I still recommend tat him by by yeah happy days in the hobby 40000 points is a lot. That's my yeah.

01:09:29.79
youcantcompthis
That's a whole lot of points. It's yeah one.

01:09:32.16
Adz
Kobe whites where you want to get that cheap kaboom got thoughts call. All.

01:09:36.80
youcantcompthis
My final thoughts Caitlyn Clark exciting stuff. S ga we need to talk about him more and Anthony Black is my this week's Herbert Jones yeah the Herbert Jones award

01:09:40.17
Adz
Very very.

01:09:47.32
Adz
This week's Herbert Jones award goes to Anthony Black we'll be. We'll we'll be back next week with more card ladder comping I like these I like these way too much, but maybe the listeners should like try and do some comps.

01:09:59.40
youcantcompthis
Like you do you? You love them like.

01:10:05.45
Adz
Like that they've bought 2 cards at a similar price.

01:10:06.77
youcantcompthis
But could do that I'm just not gonna lie to you. It's just heaps quicker for me to get them off Twitter like.

01:10:13.77
Adz
I Like saying I tag you I try and forward them doing as I'm like this one. It's great I Maybe we look at some single ones and look at the pro the the fluctuations. But yeah, thanks Card Ladder you're giving us lots of stuff to talk about make our life easy.

01:10:22.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so.

01:10:30.30
youcantcompthis
Thanks for listening everyone.

01:10:33.42
Adz
Thanks, everyone will see you next week