Episode 134: Central Coast Radio here we come!! Kobe Statue, Jordan Inserts, Jules rule, Wemby, Blank Slates, Level IVs

Episode 134 Adam and Russell begin with the announcement we have been trying to keep a secret, we will be joining the Central Coast Radio Team, thankyou to Angelika and David Griffiths. After some general chitter chatter we get to the real stuff. 

- Kobe Statue spelling errors and Kobe inserts

-   Jordan inserts group discussion and this big boi Star Rubies Jordan 
- We discuss the 'Jules rule' Prizm unnumbered vs hoops + donruss numbered
- A follow up on Players ineligible and SGA with this SGA Mojo
- Wemby psa 10 discussion in regards to cleaning and alteration which leads to
- a nice little Victor Level II Black Label and court kings review
-   Simmons surgery; return next year
- Historic loss soccer card and historic loss on nfl card  and finally
- Steph Curry Gold refractor psa 7

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Transcript

00:00.48
youcantcompthis
Or it resized it. We're good I think we could all right? So you want me to I just kick off whenever we kick off right.

00:29.16
youcantcompthis
Welcome everybody to episode 134 you can't comp this Mba trading card podcast where your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson Russell another week in the books we are closer to the Mba finals or the end of the season. Anyway. How are you.

00:49.47
The real Russell
I'm very good I'm very excited. It is another week in the books. But I think for us, it's not it's more than another week in the books. It's a massive week come on. We we've got some news to announce I think we should just get straight to it.

00:57.19
youcantcompthis
It's some. It's I know maybe it's a big week. Um, ah it's it's.

01:04.72
The real Russell
No weather talk today. No small talk just straight to business. It might have been beautiful I just don't want to talk about it. Yeah.

01:07.13
youcantcompthis
But it was beautiful outside. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair, big news I look I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a bit of a drum roll and um, yeah past you, let's go.

01:17.67
The real Russell
Lay it on to us. So I think we should set off with the thank yous I think that's the easiest way to introduce. So I think we should say thank you to David Griffiths because he is the one who vouched for us who spoke about us to Angelica and.

01:32.11
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yep.

01:34.43
The real Russell
Angelica I would say has been very graceful and very patient with us and very gracious inviting us into her team and her team is central coast radio. So as of the next couple of weeks. We don't have an exact date nail down yet. But we can now officially announce this every Sunday morning.

01:36.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:52.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yes.

01:53.69
The real Russell
Melbourne time 10 a m to middayve so we've got a 2 hour time slot. It's going to be the same. You can't comp this recipe. Nothing's going to change in that sense but there will be some music added into it and it will just give us an opportunity to potentially have some extra content that.

02:05.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

02:12.99
The real Russell
You know, doesn't go into the podcast I think that's probably you know one small thing that we might change out but look I I think um, it's difficult sometimes to measure or appreciate success is not the right word but maybe progress and I think I think.

02:13.58
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

02:20.96
youcantcompthis
I think.

02:27.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

02:30.29
The real Russell
I Want to say this to you publicly you know Congratulations Mate I think this is you know it's fantastic for us and I think it's something that we've been working on for a while now and to get a little reward like this. It's It's very exciting and and very humbling. That's the other thing I'd like to say Yeah yeah.

02:35.80
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

02:43.67
youcantcompthis
Humbling is is the right word I think this is is a big step. We've we've been like a hundred episodes was huge. Don't get me wrong but taking the step from the podcast platform to a. So a time slot on ah on a radio station is is yeah it's very humbling. It's very um, it's surreal for me. It's it's amazing from where we started to to where we are now is is amazing and and yeah, very thankful, very grateful for the.

03:07.90
The real Russell
Yeah.

03:12.57
The real Russell
Yeah, like.

03:19.59
youcantcompthis
Ah listeners. Yeah, and thank you David for for putting us forward. That's yeah I think that's ah the least we can do the least we can do.

03:23.49
The real Russell
We probably owe him a beer or 2 don't we. So I Think the last thing we should say about this before we move on is that the time slot is great for us because Central Coast Radio is a digital radio station which when I initially heard about it I didn't understand but the positives of a digital radio station is that it's around the world.

03:36.17
youcantcompthis
Yes, yep.

03:49.28
The real Russell
And 80% of their demographics are in the us which is pretty much the polar opposite of what our podcast stats show. So at the moment we're 80% Australia 10 percent America and then 10% the rest of the world whereas now this is going to give us that sort of upside-down exposure if you wish um.

03:58.54
youcantcompthis
Yep.

04:06.70
youcantcompthis
Um, boat. Yeah yeah.

04:06.11
The real Russell
80% America 10 percent australian you know 10% the rest of the world. So I'm super psyched about that like if we can you know break into and I'm using air quotes on that to the us market I think that would be amazing. So.

04:19.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's gonna be and it is that that Sunday time slide is very much Saturday afternoon evening which is when all all trading card enthusiasts like to listen to the radio. That's exactly right? exactly right on the central coast of the United States ah

04:24.47
The real Russell
That's right, ah sitting around listening to the digital radio. Ah.

04:36.28
The real Russell
Ah, ah look we have to be um, optimistic here and.

04:37.29
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah, look I think it's It's huge. It's um, it's exciting and yeah, it's It's a good feeling. So.

04:42.12
The real Russell
Yeah, so to David John to Amir I've been hinting at something big dropping and and this is it so I'm sorry boys I couldn't announce it earlier but we just wanted to keep it under apps until the ink was on the contract. So.

04:59.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah, my signed up and they can't There's no backing out now we're gonna be on more people have to listen to us that means more complaints really? but maybe maybe.

05:02.14
The real Russell
That's it.

05:10.55
The real Russell
Speaking speaking of inc on contracts adam why don't we talk about the Kobe statue and the unfortunate spelling.

05:19.68
youcantcompthis
The unfortunate Ink Jose um cauldron is that his name is it I don't know Josie Josie Culer on do we want to miss? yep.

05:29.91
The real Russell
I Think for for people who are unaware of this I think you should give a little bit of background into it before we we jump straight in.

05:40.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, um for those that aren't aware Kobe Bryant got a statue out front of crypto arena and you know let's pay for quality given. It's probably 1 of the greatest lakers of all time 1 of um.

05:56.69
youcantcompthis
Let's pay attention to detail. Apparently that's not the case we um, we found out this week that that that maybe they stinged on the spell check spelling and grammar check. Um it.

06:10.41
The real Russell
Ah, so the spur the the spse the words that were misspelt were Jose Colder and von wafer and coach's decision. So there's actually 3 typos. Yeah.

06:22.13
youcantcompthis
Coach's decision was Misspet under ready for it. Coach's decision. It was underneath the to the words Coach's decision and then it was misspeelt the line below. Um.

06:28.27
The real Russell
That's actually a weird one isn't it.

06:34.73
The real Russell
So look my complaint about this is that you know the egyptians can build pyramids five thousand years ago and then today we can't even spell things properly I I sometimes worry about humanity and the progress we're making ad.

06:48.92
youcantcompthis
Can I just say what the duck is this all about if they'd only used Autocor correct. Um yes, um, yeah, it was. It's crazy given it's an important statue and yeahp.

07:06.17
The real Russell
So what do you think? the practicalities were around this because my theory is that they were working to a pretty tight deadline and corners were cut.

07:06.74
youcantcompthis
Yep.

07:15.65
youcantcompthis
It was announced months ago that it was gonna be on this specific day. Ah I'm sure something got behind there was there was there were problems there and look ah as as much as we like to joke about it. It's probably not the most.

07:18.35
The real Russell
Yeah.

07:32.38
youcantcompthis
Focal point of the exercise is getting the box score right? Still a bit of an error given how much scrutiny you think would be applied to it in social media as we've seen. But yeah, getting the statue right? getting it out getting it ready for the unveiling date.

07:42.68
The real Russell
Yeah.

07:50.98
youcantcompthis
Is probably the most important thing and and they have said that they will they will get it right? Yes, it's not like it's the actual statue itself with all the detail. Um, anyone that did see the ceremony would be aware that there was a lot that went into it. There was.

07:56.67
The real Russell
It's fixable. Yeah, like.

08:08.43
youcantcompthis
So much detail that that is that is on this statue that look fixing the box box the box Score is is not um, the most difficult thing in the world.

08:20.50
The real Russell
I'm going to test your memory for a second now when you're watching the ceremony did they uncover that part of the statue or did they keep it covered up to sort of you know, keep it secret for the day to not spoil the day.

08:33.70
youcantcompthis
I'm actually not sure I don't ever I I was watching Um, ah ah am I putting myself on Am I throwing myself under the bus here I were I actually was on break. So it's fine I was ah I was on break at work when I was watching the ceremony. So I I may have had my phone.

08:39.93
The real Russell
We can baep this out. Yeah.

08:50.92
youcantcompthis
And it was I didn't get to look at too much detail so I didn't I didn't pick up the spelling list. Its ah, got it? Yeah no oh got Matthew Hall in the comments.

08:53.20
The real Russell
Sure, let's leave it at let's leave it at that you doing the Jordan shrug as you're saying that it all right? Let's to.

09:08.20
youcantcompthis
What happens when you get art students who make statues to spell their work. Yes, they were definitely students because it's only one of the most important statues a crypto oh goodness.

09:13.85
The real Russell
Ah, you can't blame the odd students Maddie.

09:26.19
youcantcompthis
But yes, interesting, interesting, interesting that they they did that.

09:31.39
The real Russell
Let's talk some kobe cards because this is a banggo I think you would like this one add Ninety Ninety Six flair showcase Kobe Bryant a legacy collection row 0 numbered to 150 bgs 10 not a black label only let down by the edges which got a 9.5 the other subgrades all received to 10 so 10 pristine recently sold at golden's auction on the second of March so you know very recent sale a $47000 620

09:49.56
youcantcompthis
Fool.

09:55.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah. That is a beautiful looking card that is like there's there's there's nothing nothing else to say that is a beautiful card hundred and.

10:10.24
The real Russell
So for the uninitiated ad why are people paying so much for that card.

10:16.85
youcantcompthis
Because it's kobe. No I have I have no idea um the flare showcase is that I don't even know what the pop count is on that.

10:23.72
The real Russell
So my very basic understanding of these row 0 cards is you have to almost imagine that's like the court side card and then the row one is. There's the population that's higher and then as you go back gets more and more so essentially the row zero is yeah.

10:32.43
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

10:37.36
youcantcompthis
So level 1 2 3 4 Yeah yeah.

10:42.40
The real Russell
So the level 4 is like you're maybe could call like a a level four out of the court Kings you know these days where that's the hardest one to get? Yeah yeah, look this actually fits into a little bit of the next topic that we're talking about you know cards that are just absolutely popping and you know.

10:45.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, now. Beautiful card though.

10:57.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah, oh.

10:59.39
The real Russell
Sometimes there's a good reason for it and sometimes there's not a fantastic reason for it now we did talk about this on last week's show but we put up a social media post about it this week on Facebook we had some again. Thank you everyone for contributing getting into that I found a couple myself that I was.

11:11.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

11:16.43
The real Russell
Kind of interested in so the one that I found which I thought I found 2 and I found 2 that were in a pretty specific price range one was the 1997 Jordan finest I just think that's just a really nice looking card.

11:24.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

11:35.50
youcantcompthis
Yep.

11:36.33
The real Russell
So if you're looking at the Facebook page and also if you're listening to the podcast if you click on the podcast description pretty much everything that we talk about each week I I put into the link. So if you want to click on it as we're talking and look at the posts please feel free to you know, listen along and do that.

11:48.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

11:53.70
The real Russell
So you'll see that when there it's got the the without coding so these generation of cards had this very distinctive peel on them. Some people will peel them off and send it in for grading and some people remove them and this is a little bit of ah like a funny debate. We can segue into this for 2 seconds I'm a peeler.

12:03.93
youcantcompthis
Yep.

12:08.88
youcantcompthis
Oh or you like you don't like the coding.

12:12.50
The real Russell
Ah, you a peeler or not a appealer. Well I Just think that when you peel it off the card looks amazing and and sometimes I find it looks a little bit dull. So.

12:18.70
youcantcompthis
I Yeah so you reckon like a piece a psa ten with the coding off is better than a psa ten with the coding on.

12:27.87
The real Russell
I Think aesthetics they look nicer I think the colors are more vivid I Actually wonder if they're harder to gem with the coding on though.

12:35.16
youcantcompthis
It's yeah Heart Gymm with it on I I'm um I'm undecided on which is more difficult. But yeah, it's.

12:47.45
The real Russell
Which do you prefer though here you I'm going to nail you down on this one out you haven't actually given us an answer here.

12:54.63
youcantcompthis
Part of me says the coding on but aesthetically I agree I agree with you aesthetically, but condition why I'm the guy I'm the kind of guy that that likes his pop vinyls in the box. So that's my I suppose. That's my my comparison.

12:59.75
The real Russell
Yeah, 1

13:05.47
The real Russell
Boy Yeah yeah. Why sure like like why.

13:13.19
youcantcompthis
I Do I do like it with the coding on because it shows that it's relevant. It's untouched I guess is is the right is the right phrase. Yeah yeah, but I think both are very very yeah for their own purpose like I do admit that it looks nice without the coding because it gives you.

13:18.51
The real Russell
Um, yeah.

13:32.34
youcantcompthis
Just the card or looking at your pop vinyl outside the box I don't know which one. But yeah, yeah.

13:35.36
The real Russell
Yeah, so that's pop 93 sub $200 that ticked off basically 3 boxes for me. So this is the type of thing that I was you know looking at and what I'm speculating here what I'm prospecting on is that what is the next Jordan that's it's going to pop.

13:45.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

13:54.92
The real Russell
So and the reason why I chose in this price range in this psa rating and also for the aesthetics is that look if it does nothing I Still think it's a nice card and I'm happy with the price that I paid for it. So that's the other part of this too. Yeah, the other one. The price on this is is much lower.

14:06.54
youcantcompthis
Fair.

14:14.80
The real Russell
The population on is much higher I don't think it's as aesthetically pleasing. But I also think too. It's almost like a very classic looking Jordan card so that's the 1996 Ultra Jordan number one forty three so look I I think both of these cards are in my now ebay.

14:16.64
youcantcompthis
Ah.

14:22.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

14:33.20
The real Russell
Search list. There's a couple others I also added to my search list but I might share those with you if or when I finally do purchase them.

14:34.51
youcantcompthis
Ah.

14:43.40
youcantcompthis
This will be I'm excited. Um I'm excited to see them. Um I I do like I did I didn't nail down any I have been looking at the Facebook post though because there are some beautiful jordans um.

14:45.78
The real Russell
Ah, did you nail down any.

14:54.27
The real Russell
What took your eye on those man.

14:59.42
youcantcompthis
It's funny because Andrew Hewitt did point out the 1993 upper deck. Um the the fanimation agent 23 I remember this card as a child and I was like yeah it was ah it was definitely one of those.

15:06.86
The real Russell
Yeah, sure. Yeah.

15:17.71
youcantcompthis
Good comment though. It's it's one of those those childhood memories not for the same reason that the ninety two ninety three upper deck jordan shot is synonymous with Jordan but I remember it. It was like oh that's Michael Jordan like that was the.

15:21.16
The real Russell
Um, yeah.

15:35.93
youcantcompthis
The not Jordan Jordan card if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, true, it's it's an interesting card because it's not a it's a drawing. It's not a photo. It's not an action shot.

15:38.37
The real Russell
I Think that's quite an iconic card to be honest and.

15:51.44
The real Russell
But if you think about it. You could almost argue. It's been quite influential because I think court Kings essentially is a derivative out of this like all those cards are portrait cards and then you can almost again say this is a derivovative of like a kabom or a kaboo is a derivative for this. Do you know what? I mean like it's that.

16:01.53
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

16:06.85
youcantcompthis
Oh interesting parallel.

16:11.38
The real Russell
Especially the early kabooms that were like you know, very sort of like almost robotic or they weren't you know, true portraits. So.

16:16.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah, do you know the interesting thing. Well what the the thing that comes to my mind when I think of this card and it might it. There might be no connection whatsoever.

16:34.11
The real Russell
Doesn't have to be and it's yeah.

16:34.71
youcantcompthis
But it's something like this that that you know someone like Tyson Beck do know I mean like this is the inspiration. This is the this is the original canvas where it's greenlit to say art or paintings. Ah, do you know I mean like a not photo is okay.

16:42.23
The real Russell
Yeah.

16:49.51
The real Russell
Like yeah sure.

16:53.98
youcantcompthis
And and it might ah like I'm not saying it. It's probably Tyson's inspiration but I'm I'm saying it's what could motivate somebody to to create art rather than be a photographer. Yeah.

17:02.39
The real Russell
Well to be fair, we we need to get Tyson onto the show and I think that's actually a very good question. We could ask you? You know what were the cards that inspired you or gave you some juice. Yeah.

17:12.56
youcantcompthis
Look at that look at us like this is this is this is how the magic happens everybody gets a look behind the curtain on nights like tonight tyson reach out to us or we'll reach out to you. We'll get you on the show we do.

17:23.25
The real Russell
Now we we need to reach out look to be fair, we actually have sent him a message and he's very like very happy to come on. We just need to get our act together. So yeah, exactly so that look there's a few here and I think we should run through them all pretty quickly Ryan Jewel he put that.

17:30.28
youcantcompthis
We need to get? Yeah yeah, pull our fingers out and and organize it. Yeah.

17:40.47
youcantcompthis
Hell yeah.

17:42.79
The real Russell
I'm going to call this the scarface I like this card I think again, that's a very distinctive card and.

17:49.43
youcantcompthis
All right I'm I'm gonna get for those playing at home I'm gonna I've got the link up and watching the live feed there. We go. That's a beautiful card that is a beautiful card.

17:53.99
The real Russell
Okay, beautiful.

18:05.83
youcantcompthis
I Don't know if it's better than scarface. But.

18:07.78
The real Russell
Stop Scar Ac's tough debate as much as I love cards that is.

18:13.35
youcantcompthis
And's say um, could you imagine if they did a series whereas a scar face of Jordan then they did like the godfather I don't know I don't know but they do the similar in a similar art artistic flavor.

18:19.14
The real Russell
What would be the Godfather comparison.

18:28.26
The real Russell
Um, okay.

18:29.97
youcantcompthis
I don't know godfather part one 2 3 the 3 pete here we go look at this all right.

18:38.63
The real Russell
I suppose there is there was a bit of politics around the second 3 pete wasn't there that was sort of godfatheresque. There was a few assassinations of character and Andrew Su to Hut 1996 meal fle scoring magnet.

18:43.94
youcantcompthis
Oh yes, something like that.

18:56.82
The real Russell
That is yeah, that's great. Yeah.

18:59.19
youcantcompthis
There are some beautiful Jordan Cards out there. Let's be real that was um, yeah, that is ah that is a nice card.

19:06.18
The real Russell
Ah I'll do this next one now just because this is my favorite one again. This is from Andrew thanks Andrew 1997 stadium club hardcore heroics I haven't checked the coms on this but this is kind of the card that I had in the back of my mind of getting where I'm like.

19:21.36
youcantcompthis
Oh.

19:22.77
The real Russell
Are these undervalued is there any value in getting these I have to check the pop pop reports all that type of stuff. But yeah I think this is the type of card that would be worth collecting and almost speculating on to be honest I like this a lot. Yeah.

19:39.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, for sure what have we got next? Oh I like this one the 98 tops legacies that is ah that is a beautiful shot.

19:56.67
youcantcompthis
Like who's that by Anthony Milne of course of course. Yeah.

19:57.41
The real Russell
So that's a longtime supporter huge Jordan Collector and if I'm not mistaken this almost looks like a semi opaque card.

20:14.73
youcantcompthis
Um, I'm trying to see if it's like a hologram or if it's um, is it opaque.

20:21.60
The real Russell
Almost looks like a Don Russ clearly card in that it's printed on that sort of hard clear plastic.

20:28.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's a beautiful card though that this is the thing there's some of these 90 s inserts that are just so aesthetic. Um I don't know I think they um.

20:44.38
youcantcompthis
Don't make them like they used to do I sound old Anthony in the chat foil finish shine.

20:45.98
The real Russell
Yeah, that is literally the definition of there you go 1991 Fleer provisions again from Andrew.

20:57.28
youcantcompthis
Also another another drawing interesting point just gonna keep pointing that out every now and then.

21:08.50
The real Russell
That's that's totally fine 1989 Fleer sticker where are you at with stickers. Do you find stickers versus cards collectible.

21:12.90
youcantcompthis
Um, yes.

21:17.65
youcantcompthis
There's a level of collectibility. Especially if they're not unstuck because think about it right 1989 I'm I would have been young which is now I'm old So we're not disclosing ages here because that would be Ages. Um. I would have struggled not to unstick it. Do you know I mean like you'd put it on your ah folder or on your favorite book or on your on your backpack or just something or your lunchbox. So The fact that it's unstuck and you mint condition is.

21:47.28
The real Russell
Yeah, sorry.

21:53.50
youcantcompthis
Very impressive to say the least.

21:54.30
The real Russell
I Get why people do find this collectible and pay money for them. But it's just not something I'm interested in. It's almost I feel like I've got enough of my hands to collect but just with cards. Let alone to then.

21:57.87
youcantcompthis
Death.

22:05.14
youcantcompthis
Oh.

22:08.50
The real Russell
Go out and click something else. So yeah, I'm just like stickers is a sort of a hard cut off for me. Yeah ninety five ninety six hoops top 10 Michael Jordan bgs Nine point five

22:11.62
youcantcompthis
Um, fair, all right? What a.

22:22.33
The real Russell
Subgrades that were let down on is the edges at nine point 5 and surface of nine point look you can hardly say this is a let down but that's what told you back from the black label talk to me about this. Ah.

22:26.40
youcantcompthis
Um I like this card I like this is um oh Anthony Mill landed this on the weekend. So. It's very recent acquisition aside from the the landscape. Orientation I just think this is a really beautiful looking insert like this is yeah um.

22:45.83
The real Russell
Yeah I get this. This is the the feeling I get from this Carter says this is when skybox and hoops are almost crossing over and and collaborating together because that look to me is like.

22:55.93
youcantcompthis
The same product. Yeah.

23:02.68
The real Russell
Almost the epitome of when skybox and hoops just were you couldn't really tell the difference between the 2

23:06.78
youcantcompthis
This is like it. It feels very 90 s if that makes did you know what? I'm saying the top 10 the 10 on the angle and m b yeah, it's like.

23:15.11
The real Russell
Ah, yeah, definitely with the parachute pans and the fluos socks all that top of stuff. Yeah, yeah.

23:23.64
youcantcompthis
Counting down the envy the top plays of the week like it's got that vibe about it. It's really yeah, yeah, nice nice pickup for for Anthony there. It's very.

23:30.69
The real Russell
The other thing I'm going to add to this though too is that hoops actually do nice cards like I suspect that's not worth $1000 but they make cool cards and they do put a lot of thought into them. So yeah, all alrighty this is from newer so newa I believe you're a new.

23:40.77
youcantcompthis
Yep.

23:47.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah, ah.

23:50.73
The real Russell
Contributor to the page. So welcome to the show and thanks for contributing this is a Michael Jordan record breaker and now this is the the only way to describe this is the hologram die cut card I call these a desk.

24:04.75
youcantcompthis
That's insane.

24:07.74
The real Russell
Card where they look great on your desk and they sit there and then particularly with the hologram I think that would look fantastic. So yeah.

24:08.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, now that's that's that's hot I like that a lot.

24:18.33
The real Russell
Our last one is from James Gregory he's actually taken a picture of a lot of cards. But there is quite a few jordans in there the talking point for this ad that I wanted to raise with you is the bcc would you resub these cards to Psa or to bgs. Even.

24:38.29
youcantcompthis
Give it would you well a card that's been graded a 10 and I look what's the worst. Do you think could happen from regrading a car that's been graded at 10 by a we'll call them. Ah ah, a non-pre preferred grading.

24:38.37
The real Russell
Considering the now lesser reputation of B C C g.

24:58.21
youcantcompthis
Company. It's not gonna get a a psa 6 or you'd hope not. You would hope not um yeah.

25:07.74
The real Russell
Um, I mean that's actually it's a pretty curly question that I asked you and I think for these cards I don't think you would sped to get.

25:17.10
youcantcompthis
Well I'm looking at the range right? like there's no inserts there. There's nothing that that stands out as the next I don't know inside out that's gone from eighty bucks to a thousand bucks um yeah

25:27.46
The real Russell
Yeah.

25:34.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's it's um I don't know I've coined in the game with the the B ccg argument. Well not really coin in the game I have a car that I would like to cross over and I will one day probably.

25:41.50
The real Russell
2 really.

25:50.26
The real Russell
So by and correct me if I'm wrong about this but my understanding of BccG is essentially they've been discredited through the grading community. Yeah.

25:57.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I do have a B C C G ten that I would I'm curious to see what it will grade at.

26:06.13
The real Russell
So I think the the play there is that you crack it out yourself or you approach somebody that is very slick at cracking them out. Put it into a kangaroo one touch or grating sleeve and then you send it off.

26:18.25
youcantcompthis
Yep.

26:22.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's a card that is definitely worth worth being careful with.

26:28.28
The real Russell
Yeah, are you gonna tell us what it is or he's gonna leave his hanging.

26:34.30
youcantcompthis
To Kobe rookie Bowman's refractor so ah yes, yes it does yes, it does. Yeah, it's not like a trash player like Luca dontage or something.

26:35.87
The real Russell
Yeah, yeah, sure so that definitely needs to be fixed at some point. Yeah, hey like it. We didn't advertise this ad but I think we have a box of women's aflcity on the shelf courtesy of our friends at Ej Cards so ej cards thank you so much for your ongoing support Adam who is the impromptu winner of today's W Afl box of cards like yeah.

27:13.50
youcantcompthis
Oh based on the Jordan inserts. Um, cool. Oh I might need a high breaker because I've got a couple here. Um.

27:23.83
The real Russell
You pick? will you pick one or a second one and then I can choose between the 2 That's totally fine.

27:31.73
youcantcompthis
Okay, so the the the fanimation is is up there? Um, but I'm also I have to say my personal favorite is Anthony's um

27:34.87
The real Russell
Sure.

27:48.67
youcantcompthis
Top 10 like Jordan is so ninety s that it's not funny and that that top 10 just screams 90 s basketball to me.

27:50.83
The real Russell
Okay.

27:57.98
The real Russell
Great. That's totally fine. So I would have chosen the 97 stadium club hardcore heroics but if we're going between the 2 that you chose I can't choose the fanimation as a winner i.

28:10.42
youcantcompthis
No no I know I yeah.

28:14.27
The real Russell
I think that's an excellent card and I I get why you would short list it. But so I think therefore the winner has to be the top 10 So Anthony I will shoot you a Dm and I'll get that posted out to you in the next week

28:30.74
youcantcompthis
Some some ah some women's Afl Afl W for the win.

28:36.15
The real Russell
So speaking of Jordans we should really talk about this 1997 skybox premium star rubies authentic not graded like.

28:47.77
youcantcompthis
I Enjoy the authentic grade. Don't you.

28:51.51
The real Russell
Why do you enjoy the authentic grade.

28:55.19
youcantcompthis
I I like the fact that we're at a point in history where we need to confirm that a card is authentic. That's that's a little bit of sarcasm there when it comes to one of ones. Authenticating the card makes sense to me when there's a print run. That's a lot bigger than I don't know one authentic doesn't cut it for me like I want to know what the quality of the card is.

29:15.38
The real Russell
Like sure.

29:28.63
The real Russell
Yeah I mean so that's I mean that's a very valid point and so this card sold for one hundred and nine Thousand usd nearly 110 it's number to 50 So I'm going to go out in the li here and say that this card wouldn't have graded very well and that's why they've just.

29:36.85
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

29:47.72
The real Russell
Authenticated it and that's what's really interesting to me because despite that it's still sold for huge dollars and nine. Yeah, maybe double then yeah, so look.

29:48.63
youcantcompthis
Yep.

29:53.25
youcantcompthis
Imagine it was a imagine if it was like on op to say 9 or 10 Yeah, that's insane when you think about it.

30:05.73
The real Russell
Congratulations to the to the or I'm very very happy for you and I think to the cellar surely they're got to be over the moon for that. That's um, yeah, that's a house right? Final thoughts on Jordan before we move on.

30:13.50
youcantcompthis
Damn right? Yeah, but is.

30:24.96
youcantcompthis
Jordan is sono. Ah my question at the moment is will there be another will the next generation that saw lebron that saw Kobe um saw step feel the same way.

30:34.64
The real Russell
Um, yeah.

30:41.50
youcantcompthis
About theirs their heroes because there are people growing up now that did not watch Jordan Play basketball and they are gonna and I'm I'm not having the goat debate but I'm saying that Lebron James or Steph Curry is their goat.

30:46.38
The real Russell
Yeah.

30:58.94
The real Russell
Ah, definitely.

30:59.84
youcantcompthis
Is the same. Do you think the same thing could happen with with with modern descartes. Do you do you think it will be with Lebron.

31:05.57
The real Russell
Of course I actually think it's happening already. So I think Lebron is one of those people who is going to be incredibly liquid kobe is going to be one and I would say kobe is.

31:16.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah of get.

31:24.41
The real Russell
Is already happening so it's just a matter of time until we start seeing Jordan -esque things happening with the Kobe inserts and all that type of stuff and then the other one that you mentioned is is stef and I think that one is.

31:27.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

31:34.40
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, stiff.

31:42.81
The real Russell
Less of a sure bet than Lebron and Kobe and I think that one is much much further away like that might happen for another say twenty years or so so it's a very long bet but at the same time. So for example, like where I'm going with this is that I think if you're making the argument that you should be buying.

31:51.29
youcantcompthis
Ah.

32:02.48
The real Russell
Kobe's at the moment because the inserts are cheap and they look good. So let's just say we did this exercise on Kobe instead of Jordan you might be picking up stuff that's much much better for much cheaper and I think that that sort of next level sort of cost escalation can still happen I think that's definitely on the cards and then.

32:04.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

32:17.66
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

32:21.97
The real Russell
Ah, you know I think the obvious one those is lebron and I think we're in a really funny spot at the moment because he's in product and he hasn't signed for such a long time and.

32:24.88
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

32:37.19
The real Russell
I almost feel as though at the moment Lebron inserts are undervalued in that way.

32:40.84
youcantcompthis
Interesting. Yeah I I know what you mean and it's yeah Kobe Magic Lebron a d.

32:44.13
The real Russell
Because if you you go into Lakers breaks right? What are you hoping to get you're hoping to get lebrons. Yeah, maybe yeah, but and you're not hoping well because you know you're not going to get a lebron autograph. So what are you hoping for a numbered lebron a number.

33:00.30
youcantcompthis
Jersey yeah, a piece of material that he didn't wear or something that somebody in Lakers uniform war. Yeah.

33:02.25
The real Russell
Insert. Yeah. Yeah, well, all that he did wear that will be even better and look who knows what's going to happen when you know fanatics takes over. Maybe they're going to pump out you know more leron stuff than we can gouge our eyes with like.

33:17.47
youcantcompthis
And.

33:22.58
youcantcompthis
And yeah.

33:23.12
The real Russell
You know who knows but I still do think that people will look back at the panini era and you know collect some of these inserts like if people are collecting hoops and they're collecting Skybox and upper deck. Do you know what? I mean like that to me is like.

33:35.42
youcantcompthis
Um, yep.

33:38.10
The real Russell
Is very comparable to you know everything? that's happening with penny at the moment. So yeah, yeah, hit me to be as liquid as is.

33:42.29
youcantcompthis
Segue on the final thought is Jordan the only player that's gonna see these kind of spikes from the 90 s sorry from this junk wax era yeah is it gonna be a spike on shack.

33:53.78
The real Russell
Ah, from the 90 s.

33:57.90
The real Russell
What funny you say that actually Shaq is having a bit of a rise at the moment. Yeah.

33:59.80
youcantcompthis
Is there going to be That's why I thought it might be interesting.

34:12.30
The real Russell
Ah, from the 90 s I think the issue with the people from the 90 s is that look some stuff will definitely go up I I don't think if you buy other things from the 90 s it's not going to go up I don't think that's the point of this comment when I'm about to make. But.

34:26.19
youcantcompthis
No.

34:28.76
The real Russell
I think Jordan has dominated the 90 s in such a profound way and not just cardwise like it extends to culture. It's actually quite hard to even really think about who's in second place let alone Third fourth or fifth. So yeah.

34:32.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah, agreed.

34:44.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, influential player influential athletes like Jordan. Yeah yeah.

34:47.85
The real Russell
If you're saying specifically that if you're saying yeah that's right, yeah, if you're saying specific to 90 s well then yeah, my answer is like no Jordan is like the one I don't think why would you bother doing anything else already. So this next segment we have to give juules from EJCards

34:56.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah, a great great cool. That was fun.

35:07.67
The real Russell
This because to be honest I might have even been overhearing his conversation with somebody else and then it's stuck in my mind. Maybe we were talking about it I actually can't remember either way this is Jules's ideas I was most likely at the shop. Yeah so Jules's full credit here.

35:14.39
youcantcompthis
Wolf was this at a trade day. More than likely.

35:27.19
The real Russell
So joys's theory is that unnumbered prism even though it sells and it's much more popular and if we want to keep using words from earlier liquid but you should be looking at numbered hoops and numbered Don Russ because they are cheaper and there's.

35:28.69
youcantcompthis
Oh.

35:36.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

35:44.59
The real Russell
Less of them where are you at with this where are you at with? let's call it the Jules Theory this is this is officially the jules theory.

35:46.91
youcantcompthis
Um, that's interesting. The Jewels Theory um I actually quite like the Jewels Theory I I think numbered cards.

36:02.97
youcantcompthis
If they're not prism are underrated, undervalued and under underappreciated is probably the right word I think I think the limited population of these kind of cards. Is not given the credit. It's that it's um that it should be given yeah I know I think there should be serious consideration for the limited quantity in today's age that that numbering brings. Um. Just ask the 50000 people that have a Luca Dontage base prism card. It's only 40 something thousand I'm sorry the base not the prism I'm saying the base. But yeah, like pop counts are going through the roof.

36:47.10
The real Russell
You're slightly exaggerating but that's fine I'll let you get away with that. That's totally fine.

36:57.79
The real Russell
Look I've definitely been thinking about this and I'm going to be actually quite blunt with my answer here. So sometimes even if you think something is right and I'll even go so far as to say that you know you're right.

37:00.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Oh.

37:16.44
The real Russell
Sometimes you can still be wrong. So let's talk about prism for a second. Let's talk about prison for a second. So prism prism is what it is at the end of the day prism is king right? And so my theory a few years back was that select was the so.

37:21.73
youcantcompthis
Ah, yep, let let's go back to prism. It always comes back to prism. Yep.

37:35.35
The real Russell
Much superior product. So I bought very little prism and I was buying I would say almost eighty percent was select. The problem is the market sentiment doesn't share the same thing. So even if I think I'm getting a good deal even if I think I'm paying unders. And I think I'm smarter than everybody else and you know I'm getting you know what? I mean like it doesn't matter like if you then go to resell it. The market isn't there for it. It's not as chaste as what prism is in saying all of that if you're looking at the market and you're looking at comps.

37:54.75
youcantcompthis
Correct correct.

38:06.86
youcantcompthis
Ah.

38:08.77
The real Russell
And you're getting for something that you think is under comps and you think you're getting a good deal That's fine I say take the deal because there's always going to be some place in the market for it. But if you think that it's going to magically one day go up to high values than prism. You know I would say.

38:12.17
youcantcompthis
Yep.

38:19.93
youcantcompthis
Ah.

38:25.42
The real Russell
Tread very cautiously with that thought in mind if you know you're you're going out to make purchases like that. So now look in saying all of that select still holds a very special place in my heart. So maybe what this is really talking about with Jules is.

38:29.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

38:42.37
The real Russell
Actually Jules just enjoys Don Russ and he enjoys hoops more than prism and I think there is an argument to be made about that particularly at price points and that's the other part of this conversation too is that I think a very important and a very healthy thing to be in this hobby and to.

38:53.18
youcantcompthis
Ah.

39:01.52
The real Russell
Maintain your longevity in the hobby is making sure that you don't overextend over you know, price yourself. So I think that's where these products become very powerful is that you know you can get a numbered like the one that I put up was a cam whitmore to 75 look I'll be shocked if that sells for anything more than $10 but

39:05.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

39:18.76
The real Russell
To get that card in prism. You know you might be looking at $100 you know and that's just the reality of you know what? the market dictates. So I think we should ah go through the listener responses because I think some of these are really what you've said? Yeah so white oz cards any number card surely beats.

39:34.12
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

39:38.74
The real Russell
And unnumbered overprinted prism. You know that's totally fine that was on Instagram so thank you Luke for that and blair anything numbered Trump's not numbered in my opinion unless we're talking ssp non-numbered. So what I think he's referring to there is case hits.

39:43.95
youcantcompthis
Chum.

39:53.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

39:56.81
The real Russell
And Matthew Hull which I think is in the the live chat always numbered in my eyes and yep, that's basically what you were saying from before.

40:03.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, but but that's the thing like we we put so much or like you and I do we put stock in pop counts right? and we use that as a as one of the determining factors when it comes to valuing cards and we've talked about it in the past where.

40:15.77
The real Russell
1 yeah.

40:22.20
youcantcompthis
We're saying rather than the Silver prism maybe look for the numbered stuff and when you when you really go back and think about it numbered stuff guarantees a ceiling on the pop count. So I think it it creates its own value.

40:34.60
The real Russell
And definitely.

40:41.90
youcantcompthis
So yeah, if if something has numbering it. It definitely increases Its um, it it increases the integrity of the collectibility. If that's not using too many random terms.

40:58.15
The real Russell
Um I think it does but I think you then need to keep that in like a pro-roded sort of thought right like you can't say a number to 10 of hoops. It's the same as like a number to 10 of prism. Do you know what? I mean like that's where it's.

41:05.17
youcantcompthis
Sure sure. Um, for for sure for sure for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:13.84
The real Russell
Yeah, and that's the easiest way to Explain. It isn't it really right? Yeah yeah, all any now this segment you're go have to bear with me a little bit and this is very I'm going to call this the node segment of the day so this is going to be like. Almost a little bit sort of stat heavy. But I think this is going to be interesting in the sense that a really weird rule that they recently implemented could actually affect the Hobby trajectory so hear me out in the last collective bargaining agreement. They.

41:44.90
youcantcompthis
Oh.

41:50.83
The real Russell
I'll say they but an agreement was made that there would also be games limits applied to awards so they have to play so many games and if they don't play X amount of games. They're inelegible for awards. So these are the plays who are now inelegible for Awards mbied.

42:06.63
youcantcompthis
Yep.

42:08.56
The real Russell
Jimmy Butler draymond green ki irving jamaant Marcus smart og and an obbi lamalo ball some of these are obvious because they've missed a heaper games and they' going to be ruled out of the wards anyway, but still interesting conversation. Bradley build Paul Zingis Zack Levine Darius garland Evan Moilly Jamal Mari Chris Paul

42:14.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

42:27.73
The real Russell
Russell Westbrook that's an interesting one because I actually thought he was going to win 6 man this year so yes I'm kind of like ha ha that's funny but at the same time. It's not crazy either. Yeah know.

42:30.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as like oh there goes my theygo I've done my dough on my russell westbrook for Mvp but you're right 6 man of the year good point sure

42:41.86
The real Russell
Look I think there's a narrative for westbrook for 6 man before he broke his sound Desmond Bayne Tyler Hero Chris Middleton likely to join Donovan Mitchell carlinthinney town so towns is basically done for the year so that was probably done before he had his surgery.

42:55.40
youcantcompthis
Yep.

42:58.49
The real Russell
Trey young and Devin Booker in brackets on Devin Booker cannot miss 3 games. So now think I suppose think about this from the opposite side. So if all of these people are now ruled out in some ways for me I actually don't know who. Is going to win the awards this year and I actually wonder if and I'm not saying this is ages but I almost wonder if this favors a younger player. So for example and the most brightest example of this is is sda so almost by default does sda make all Nba because all of these other people who are.

43:27.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

43:35.87
The real Russell
You know, pretty good candidates have now been ruled out.

43:38.82
youcantcompthis
I find it interesting I find it? Well, it's concerning to me I think defensive player of the Mvp should have a higher bar as far as ineligibility for the awards. Go.

43:54.68
The real Russell
Yeah, why.

43:57.63
youcantcompthis
I think that they should the the game limit should be different for all Nba slightly not not a lot.

44:05.19
The real Russell
So of that list without sounding too harsh I think realistically the only person who is in the Mvp conversation is mbied Donovan Mitchell is like an ultra smoke. Oh.

44:16.19
youcantcompthis
Um I don't know Chris Middleton Chris Middleton was a consideration I'm joking anyway. I'm not even going to start? yeah.

44:24.50
The real Russell
So Donovan Mitchell is third on some people's Mvp ballots and fantasy wise. He's been top 5 all year. So there is you know there's an outside argument to be made about him but I don't think he was actually going to be voted Mvp.

44:28.46
youcantcompthis
Sorry what.

44:35.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, okay.

44:41.61
The real Russell
Look I think towns was playing well but again, he's not in Mvp conversation. So let's just say 1 person was on that list right? but still for for other awards I think that's relevant, but that's from Bobby Marks and again this next piece is also from Bobby Marks if you don't follow Bobby Marks on Twitter do it now at.

44:50.13
youcantcompthis
Um, chop.

44:59.30
youcantcompthis
You're missing out.

45:00.57
The real Russell
Bobby Marks 42 sga has met the 65 game requirement he will meet the super max criteria back to back all Nba if named all Nba this isn't and that's where I think this is really interesting because to me this is a done deal now. He's going to be all Nba.

45:14.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

45:15.95
The real Russell
Because SJ is six years of services offseason he will need to wait until twenty twenty five offseason to resign. He has 3 years left on his contract. So I think this is super yeah sure. But.

45:24.85
youcantcompthis
Um, but in all fairness sga is pushing Mvp at the moment like the all Nba Iny you're right about the all Nba and supermax stuff. But.

45:35.50
The real Russell
I think his envy Mvp candacy is increased by these rules with the 65 games yeah and the.

45:42.27
youcantcompthis
Well in bede would be number one I reckon at this point.

45:48.51
The real Russell
And the all Nba stuff I think that's a separate argument like you know he's either going to make one 2 or 3 like that's not debatable but Mvp I'm like actually this you know, really favors him so and I think the players winning awards.

45:51.76
youcantcompthis
Um, sure. Um, yeah, yeah for sure.

46:03.11
The real Russell
Particularly long-term I think that does matter for their card values. So when you're looking back and you're you know, trying to stack people up does it matter immediately I look I don't actually think that matters so much. But I wonder if down the road this actually might have some influence on that. So I thought this is the perfect time to talk sga cards. I'm really trying hard to make up for our our sins of earlier in the season ad so from our friends at cardladder 2018 mojo number to twenty five Psa Nine pop nine these are short printed to 25 already this last sold. For three thousand two hundred and fifty dollars previous sales 2 7 5 1 buy hold or sell Mr. Adam so you're all aboard. You're all aboard that sga train at this point.

46:45.72
youcantcompthis
Buy I can't believe I'm saying it I'm like I don't know about all aboard. But I know we haven't shown this kid enough. Love and I think a ps a 9

46:59.42
The real Russell
Um, yeah.

47:05.30
youcantcompthis
When it's number to 25 I mean what's the popkin. How how how likely is it that the pop of the psa nine is gonna get much higher. Do you know what? I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

47:15.75
The real Russell
Ah, look I would say worst case scenario this goes to ten or eleven I think that's that's that you know.

47:22.18
youcantcompthis
Ah, be curious to know how many how many tens there are actually that it's I think this this kid is the real deal. Um.

47:28.96
The real Russell
Yeah, and still has room to improve I Think that's the thing for me too.

47:34.65
youcantcompthis
and and I'm not gonna cause because I'm gonna sound like a real hypocrite if I don't say it. Um he hasn't won an Mvp yet the thunder haven't won a title yet. It's the same luca thing. The potential is there though? Do you know what? I mean like.

47:39.69
The real Russell
Say it.

47:52.72
youcantcompthis
You look at the same card and it's Luca. We're not talking three thousand us dollars

47:55.69
The real Russell
Yeah, at this point do you like Luca or sga better.

47:59.74
youcantcompthis
Oh I like sga if I'm buying one or the other can you compare the prices surely and I'm not even looking I'm not even looking things up at the moment I will hazard a guess right now that that Luca.

48:09.80
The real Russell
Yeah, sure that's fine. Just go if you got yeah.

48:16.82
youcantcompthis
Is 4 to 5 times more expensive than sga without even without even looking it up and that's all potential based and not results based because he's he's still won nothing right? and i'm.

48:27.98
The real Russell
Yeah, a lot of a lot of stock went into lucr I Think that's very fair to say.

48:34.61
youcantcompthis
A lot of people are backing the potential and and the projected outcomes and I am completely understanding of the fact that Lucas season that is averaging what 34 points a game or something insane like.

48:50.10
The real Russell
Yeah, he's gonna get the scoring title this year I don't think that's yeah.

48:54.77
youcantcompthis
Luca is this is historic the numbers but he still hasn't he hasn't been to the Mba finals. He hasn't got an Mvp these accolades. Yes, he's won some other stuff and he's been all Mba I get it. But bit. Sda is is is shot like the the thunder are top 2 in the West Dallas haven't done that yet Dallas is struggling to make the playoffs with Luka and that's probably a a management thing but I'm saying like.

49:15.91
The real Russell
If.

49:28.81
youcantcompthis
Luka's prices are based on the potential and the fact that sga's underrated and is already scaling that mountain of potential I'd say sga is a buy.

49:39.60
The real Russell
So so you're going to froff over this so silver psa ten last sold for sevend hundred for sda population of 609 luka last sold for a thousand and eighty three population 2280

49:48.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, where do you think the value is that's a root. Yeah literally yeah, that's not quite 4 x but you look at the pop count and you go well wait wait.

49:58.13
The real Russell
Yeah, so I think that perfectly illustrates what you're saying yeah that that's fine. You did off the top of your head. It's yeah yeah, yeah.

50:07.55
youcantcompthis
Where is the value. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think it's exponential when you talk about a card like the number to 25 mojo

50:16.19
The real Russell
Can you imagine if this is is the outcome that some kid that was drafted by the clippers out of some small school actually wasn't a small school was he but.

50:26.26
youcantcompthis
It's pretty funny though if the clip is lost out on such an amazing player as a lakers fan. Yeah crazy narrative right.

50:28.41
The real Russell
But then all this like Hobby attention and then actually it turns out that Sda is the guard of the generation. Can you imagine if that's what plays out. Yeah.

50:40.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah, like that's a thing if you're investing in luki. You've missed the boat because there's no opportunity like he's at is is you're paying future prices for Luka already and Sda the boat hasn't is starting to sail but hasn't sailed.

50:47.93
The real Russell
Yeah. Yeah, look I think if we had this conversation twelve months ago it would be very different. Yeah, but at the same time. Yeah.

50:59.14
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, that's it's and and that's it like I mean I do it all the time and I apologize if Luca wants to call me up and and have a crack we can. We can have a chat about it. But honestly.

51:12.24
The real Russell
I don't want to hurt your ego ad I don't think Luka really cares about what we say about him to be honest, hey on not and I actually not even not not even we hey I'm like the biggest Luca defendant on this show.

51:19.45
youcantcompthis
I know was it who who's our friend when we got the voice mouths giannis rang up. Ah. You are and Lucas I'll get if I if I ever get a a pm from Luka Dondge saying mate. Can you back off please I might I'll think about it I'll think about it I'll consider it. Um I still I think the guy can play I think guys an amazing basketballer. But we're still paying overs on potential.

51:49.18
The real Russell
I Think it's good. We have different opinions on this to be perfectly honest, so now stick to it man die on this hill like flog this horse until it's dead. You know it's totally fine. Don't keep going alrighty this next one is.

51:54.36
youcantcompthis
And um, um, um I feel like I've I've chosen my lane I've sticking to it. Yeah, it's already dead where we're just gonna keep flogging it.

52:08.98
The real Russell
Juicy I think this is probably as juicy controversy as we would delve into ad so this is from Ryan Hodge who is the president of Psa Cards again this will be in the description if you do want to click on the link lots of conversations around this card in recent days I got. To hold it and its cousin. They were both in-house p a stands by the original assessment and our graders did not detect anything with the service to deem it was altered so I should have introduced this segment a lot better what we're talking about here are the black one of 1 and the black. Shimmer photo 1 of 1 victor we benanus which were both sent to psa the black one of 1 got a 10 and the social media reverberations was that it had been some type of cleaning product had been. Apply to it and I'm not naming brand names or anything of the like that is just what was suggested psa does not approve of any chemicals or foreign substances being added to the surface of a card to improve the condition or appearance if we detect this has happened to any card we will consider it.

53:04.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

53:18.77
The real Russell
Altered What were your feelings when you heard about this story.

53:18.98
youcantcompthis
Home caveat there Cave caveat there is if they detect it. Um, it's interests. It's it's. What he because the thing is right? What do you think is the prop because because and and this is why I like bgs because it gives you the subgrades it tells you where things went wrong or things are flawed on the card.

53:52.80
The real Russell
Ah, sure.

53:55.45
youcantcompthis
Like looking at the um first off the line one of one I I'm going to guess that the centering is not the problem. Do you know I mean like it's.

54:04.69
The real Russell
So yeah to answer your question we are speculating why it got annoy and I suspect the easiest the easiest analogy for this is like the hypercards where they're very difficult to gem because essentially the way they're printed generates print lines. So I'm going to.

54:10.16
youcantcompthis
Surface.

54:16.95
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

54:24.54
The real Russell
Go out leaf and say that's what it is for that one. But what people were speculating on the one of the black one of 1 is that it had been cleaned and touched up basically at the wazoo to make sure that it got the 10 so look.

54:35.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, look ah given that they made this statement. My guess is surface Do What I mean because it's not the corners. They're not going to talk about the surface if it's the corners. Um.

54:52.46
The real Russell
Yeah, oh definitely that That's exactly they are talking about the surfaces being cleaned. Yeah, and.

54:58.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah, the surface. So the shimmer didn't copper the surface clean.

55:03.30
The real Russell
I Suspect that's more of like a mechanical thing whereas that was the way it was printed like literally into the card. So it doesn't matter. It's just right? So again, going better back to that analogy of the hyper. It doesn't matter. You can clean that until the top of the cards come off. It's the way that it's.

55:09.59
youcantcompthis
Oh okay, so it could be a printing error. It doesn't matter how you clean it up. It's still gonna be flawed. Um.

55:21.93
The real Russell
Print it into the card. So it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah.

55:21.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting one because the way they've worded it. They don't approve of chemicals or foreign substances being added to the surface.

55:34.71
The real Russell
So that's the argument with the cleaning products is that when you're cleaning the card you then remove the the substance that's applied so but there are things available that you can do to basically try and remove scratches and and buff them out and that's what.

55:37.65
youcantcompthis
They polish it off. It's yeah.

55:51.17
youcantcompthis
Um.

55:52.60
The real Russell
Is not allowed and and lane from psa grading Australia has spoken about this many times if you do get caught doing that you basically just can't sub again. It's it's like a it's a swift death. Yeah.

56:02.42
youcantcompthis
You get of 1 of 1 listing. That's a joke for blacklisting one of 1 listing yeah ebay one of one. Yeah there you go you get tagged with an ebay one of 1

56:10.45
The real Russell
Yeah, absolutely they get someone else was complaining on socials about that this week So I'm not the early person who gets annoyed by that. So the person that I.

56:21.73
youcantcompthis
I'm sure there's a couple people out there that don't like it.

56:26.13
The real Russell
Don't want to name his name in the comment said. Thank you for your clarification and transparency. So thank you for charming in there Jeff Wilson we appreciate that it's like magic Johnson on Twitter just stating the obvious.

56:35.85
youcantcompthis
Ah.

56:43.21
The real Russell
Constantly you know.

56:43.96
youcantcompthis
Thanks for stating the obvious we appreciate it because some of us need that from time to time.

56:46.15
The real Russell
Yeah, exactly and look to be honest, the rest of the comments are a bit completely unrelated to you know what? we're talking about here So look. What's your final thoughts on this where are you out with this.

56:56.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

57:02.13
youcantcompthis
Clean I I still I Still don't see a problem with in both one of ones my opinion. There's really no controversy.

57:07.45
The real Russell
Do you see this as a controversy that's that's where I'm sort of leading to.

57:18.77
youcantcompthis
Like it's interesting that the the that some the psa like do you know? what? I mean like it's a pretty high up statement to um, but ah, but I think I still I think that it seems obvious. We've talked about modifying cards and I don't think modifying cards is is okay at all talked about trimming. We've talked about adding stuff. But yeah, like everybody's entitled to to try clean up a card.

57:48.82
The real Russell
Yeah, look.

57:52.13
youcantcompthis
I mean I mean there's a big difference I Think there's a big difference between getting a microfiber cloth or something in pot and just trying to get rid of impurities that are on the surface from being exposed to the elements versus.

57:53.95
The real Russell
I Think there's.

58:09.31
youcantcompthis
Adding something and.

58:15.21
The real Russell
There's a million reasons why someone would try and alter this card for it to get 10

58:21.90
youcantcompthis
Millions of reasons if Wemby's as good as everyone thinks Yeah yeah, fraught with danger.

58:23.50
The real Russell
Yeah, so I think it's a little bit. Naive is not the right word but I don't think the narrative is really there to suggest that it has been done like there's not a lot of evidence I couldn't find anything. There was any evidence of it.

58:40.41
youcantcompthis
Now.

58:43.50
The real Russell
And I'd probably also say too. It's very brazen to send off a card that big with half a centimeter of card cleaning products still stuck to the top to try and cover up a scratch like that to me the logic is just not there like they're gonna this isn't a thirty second grade that they're going to do on this card. So yeah.

58:48.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

58:55.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah, nope.

59:03.10
The real Russell
What I do like though and god I hate I'm agreeing with Jeff Wilson but I actually think it's good that the company comes out and discusses it because this is what we talked about when we have talked about this previously I really do feel like these.

59:13.49
youcantcompthis
I agree.

59:19.35
The real Russell
Card cleaning products almost like the dirty secret that no one talks about and it just really baffles me while we just can't have a transparent conversation. So this is like fantastic I think that's you know the first step really? so and it's great to hear them.

59:22.86
youcantcompthis
Let's have.

59:29.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah to what do you think like and I know I understand and appreciate people's noble intentions. But if we're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars or we're talking 1 of 1 wembby right. This guy's on the trajectory we think he's on this is not a hundreds of thousands of dollars card this is a millions of dollars card or multiple million right could be a couple of Mill for the rookie 1 of 1.

59:58.20
The real Russell
Um, sure Yeah, sure sure.

01:00:06.69
youcantcompthis
What's the incentive to do the noble thing and not multi the service and not try and make it is get the greatest high as possible. What what is the incentive to not clean it before sending it? yeah.

01:00:18.70
The real Russell
As in just get it authenticated well I think if it gets 10 You'll get more money for it.

01:00:25.16
youcantcompthis
So what's the incentive not to clean. It did not I mean like it's all well and good and I and I am I'm not suggesting that I wouldn't have moral concerns about it. But if I'm sitting with a card that I'm looking at saying this is a million dollars and if I touch this up using use my inverted commas touch this up. Clean it up spruce it up a bit that's two and a half million dollars how many people. Aren't doing that or aren't tempted to do that.

01:01:08.96
The real Russell
No I Definitely think that the card was cleaned and I no one is not no one is gonna do that but sure but like that's.

01:01:14.60
youcantcompthis
Look I agree and we've we've both gone about card cleaning. But I mean but the temptations there.

01:01:27.11
The real Russell
Okay, that's fine Actually I don't disagree with what you're saying like I agree with you. There's millions of reasons to do it. But there was actually nothing like you show me the evidence that it had been altered this to me is just like another like card scandal that becomes something that you know wasn't there.

01:01:28.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:01:44.79
The real Russell
And I let's just say they did do it that is very brazen because to take the risk and then it as I said with P a for it to come back as altered. Do you know I mean like that is an extremely large risk to me because if that card comes back as altered.

01:01:45.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah, a great a grade. Um.

01:01:55.86
youcantcompthis
Chop.

01:02:02.77
youcantcompthis
Well, you can't get it authenticated.

01:02:04.68
The real Russell
You can't even you can't crack it and send it back and hope that they don't have it in their catalog at me. Are you kidding even bgs who was stuck in the 1980 s would still find out about this. You know.

01:02:10.70
youcantcompthis
It's a 1 of 1

01:02:19.90
youcantcompthis
B Ccg it'll give its head. Ah anyway, but I'm just saying that the temptation to clean it up. Is there um modifying and altering it I think is crossing a line and is brought with danger.

01:02:21.90
The real Russell
Maybe if you're lucky.

01:02:35.33
youcantcompthis
But I think cleaning it up makes sense. Could you imagine taking it from an 8 to a 9 There's a difference between half a million and a million dollars it's a 1 of one. So should you ride should have been authenticated anyway. But we're not saying we're yeah.

01:02:40.21
The real Russell
So one. No I didn't say it should have been authenticated if they can get a 10 I say girl nuts that's fine. Yeah yeah, all right? We're just gonna talk about when you're honor a cards for the next fifteen minutes or so because yeah I found a.

01:02:52.38
youcantcompthis
Duncan go nuts.

01:02:58.96
youcantcompthis
Let's go. Let's go Wembby Wemby It is.

01:03:04.17
The real Russell
Black label currently listed on ebay at the moment a level 2 court Kings currently bidding at Eight hundred and ten usd so that's the black label premium right? there now the level four s I wanted to talk to you about this because.

01:03:10.12
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:03:22.97
The real Russell
What do you think about the level 4 design compared to say the level 3 design because I personally preferred.

01:03:30.89
youcantcompthis
We looked at a level four s we looked at the the the level fours um was it last week or the week before but that was I was surprised.

01:03:42.51
The real Russell
I think I prefer the level threes particularly at the price point iregardless of that. The level force is still going to go for more just because of the collectibility because of the pop count I get all of that. But aesthetically I prefer the threes.

01:03:45.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:59.40
youcantcompthis
The Um, so yeah, yeah.

01:04:00.76
The real Russell
The sales of the women Yana level force have been very strong 1111070 there's currently 1 listed at the moment with about 18 hours left 2325 so there's no.

01:04:14.22
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:04:19.84
The real Russell
Reason to think it won't get to 2 9 or 3 on that one there too.

01:04:23.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, definitely definitely um, thoughts like I don't I'm not a huge fan of the level 4 design this year. But because wembby is um, a spur.

01:04:38.70
youcantcompthis
I do feel like the black and white looks really good on the level 4 with wemby specifically.

01:04:43.62
The real Russell
Definitely they I think in general they're doing a better job of color matching and they're not so much sticking to a particular color theme on cards with the exception of the the blank slate like that's they're all black. But I've noticed they're matching colors a lot more so all of the the level 4 is essentially a color matched like that's across the board. Yeah, like yeah sure. Yeah, So I think.

01:05:03.21
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, but I like the black and white uniform I do like the the black and white narrative to it. Do you know I mean like I had the black and white player with the the color match background on the others. But.

01:05:17.30
The real Russell
In that case, you should check out the level 3 because I actually find that more of a black and white cut and I think that's why I like the level 3 more than the level 4 Yep so that is very colorful. It's that is a very.

01:05:26.83
youcantcompthis
The level to not so much. It's the opposite of blank. Um, ah these is a very yeah yeah.

01:05:36.24
The real Russell
Joyous happy card. Yeah, so add if you just check your facebook messenger I sent you a comparison of the level for court Kings versus the blaster court Kings case hit which is the blank slate.

01:05:41.21
youcantcompthis
Rainbows.

01:05:55.37
The real Russell
So for people at home. You're all going to get an opportunity to have your say on this. That's going to go onto socials tomorrow morning.

01:06:04.89
youcantcompthis
Is that actually not a sorry I'm just checking out a level 3 is is that a drawing her interesting sorry I was looking that up. Um I mean mess it in the messenger thing at the moment I do.

01:06:08.73
The real Russell
Yes.

01:06:21.99
youcantcompthis
The blank Slate is black Huh Black slate.

01:06:26.72
The real Russell
All right? So sorry we need we need to talk about this I didn't realize you didn't know so they've changed the blank slates this year

01:06:36.74
youcantcompthis
Did the blank slates were black. Are they black slates.

01:06:44.90
The real Russell
We can call them black slates if you'd like So what people have been complaining about is that the last one's gemmed so well because of the surface was basically rough all the way across and then.

01:07:00.61
youcantcompthis
Ah, textured.

01:07:02.84
The real Russell
Because of the way the card was printed. There wasn't so much of a border. So the centering was basically very very generous the way the cards were cut. They were all cut pretty consistently So what's going to change this you though with the the black is going to show up the edges a lot more.

01:07:16.42
youcantcompthis
Oh.

01:07:22.50
youcantcompthis
Oh.

01:07:22.79
The real Russell
And then looking at the actual card itself. There's not exactly a border on the card. But there's more of a border this year actually let me rephrase that there is a very distinctive border that allows you to send to the card from a grading perspective. So I don't think.

01:07:38.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:42.54
The real Russell
As many people this year are going to get PA ten s on these so they were getting the last couple of years much harder to come by so what I'm putting to you though is.

01:07:46.18
youcantcompthis
Sarah and the ten s are gonna be yeah.

01:07:57.40
The real Russell
Let's just say these were both the same price. What would you purchase the blank slate or the level 4

01:08:07.40
The real Russell
Yeah I am froffing over this card so hard. It's like not funny. Yeah and I don't want to poopooh the level four because it's a case hit. But I'm gonna do it anyway. I I think that that Blank slate is.

01:08:07.74
youcantcompthis
I'd take the blank Slate I like it I Really like it. Yeah, the the blank slate.

01:08:22.50
youcantcompthis
Ah, yeah.

01:08:25.81
The real Russell
20 times more collectible than the level four and I I actually think there are some cards that are just stayers. There are some cards that are just basically cards that are going to be famous I'm going to put that into that thing that I think we're going to be talking about this card in 20 years time honestly.

01:08:29.39
youcantcompthis
Ah.

01:08:37.90
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:08:43.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:45.55
The real Russell
Whereas the level four I think this is going to fade out to obscurity. So we're talking about comps earlier in the episode. We were floating around numbers of like 3000 plus I couldn't find any sold prices on the blank slate like they're relatively new. There is currently 1 listed at the moment two thousand three hundred and twenty five dollars

01:08:52.88
youcantcompthis
Oh.

01:09:03.66
The real Russell
With 19 hours left if that goes less than the level four I think that that is one of the shrewdest purchases that I've seen for a very long time.

01:09:19.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:09:23.89
The real Russell
I Think that Blank Slate is just they've just absolutely nailed that in such a profound way.

01:09:29.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, it's quality. It's very very quality.

01:09:33.77
The real Russell
And I'm trying to not froth too much about this card because I'm gonna come off sending as a lunatic. But yeah.

01:09:44.11
youcantcompthis
Matthew I'll in the chat shush tell everyone that the slates are yuck. We can keep them for our apples. Yeah, they are they are um, do you know? what? after looking at the um, the level 2 you know what? I want a black label black slate I mean blank slate I mean black slate I want a black label blacks. Yeah black slate.

01:10:09.56
The real Russell
That's just ah, too many words in a row for me.

01:10:12.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah, um, author also Anthony Mill did did say clip surely panini just ran out of white ink. That's why they changed black. Yeah, that's it they're running out that they've run out the white under the black ink.

01:10:26.99
The real Russell
Can you see how cynical where we've we would become though that even when they change the color of a car. It's because Penini's done something wrong? yeah.

01:10:30.19
youcantcompthis
Ah.

01:10:35.52
youcantcompthis
It's all anyi's fault. What are we gonna do next year or the year after when when they're gone.

01:10:39.29
The real Russell
I think fanatics are going to make just as many gaffes to be honest.

01:10:45.32
youcantcompthis
I'll give us a couple of years we find plenty of shade to throw it at at fanatics I'm sure.

01:10:49.38
The real Russell
We are at the hour and ten mark. So I say we do 3 more things really quick hitting and then we we call it a night ad right? Ben Simmons is out for the rest of the year he had surgery on his. He had a dystectomy done today. So.

01:10:57.55
youcantcompthis
I think I think that's a great idea I think um yeah, let's do it.

01:11:09.50
The real Russell
I think we've made a lot of fun of Ben Simmons he actually has he has a physical problem look get well soon Ben Simmons we we miss you.

01:11:10.43
youcantcompthis
Oh I've got I've got I I'm I'm I'm ready to make more fun and go well there goes he's Olympic here anyway, good luck.

01:11:25.41
The real Russell
On the basketball court and honestly all best regards? Yeah, all right now the next the next two things are actually not basketball related. But I want to talk about these in the context of basketball. Okay, so this is from Eric.

01:11:27.19
youcantcompthis
Yes, get it get better. Get better.

01:11:36.43
youcantcompthis
Okay.

01:11:42.10
The real Russell
Both of these next post are from Eric Whitebacks higher sale of 3000 current value 1199 that's a 2021 Donrass Mac Jones Psa 10 now the other card is a 2014 name a base ps a 10

01:11:50.64
youcantcompthis
Oh.

01:11:58.10
The real Russell
Sold for four thousand four hundred and fifty dollars in 2020 most recent sale was $21 and sixty cents so what is the common theme auth thread here. Adam.

01:12:15.14
youcantcompthis
All right? um to do did done so du.

01:12:16.52
The real Russell
Are these cards base or short printed.

01:12:28.90
youcantcompthis
I'm having a look okay higher sales 3000

01:12:36.37
The real Russell
Sorry I didn't think this would be such a tricky question for you. Both of these cards are base cards. So yeah, no this This is not a trick. This is not a trick but this is this is the point of the exercise right? and this is what is very ah, very applicable to basketball.

01:12:39.14
youcantcompthis
They look like base card I'm trying to figure out where the where the the trick is they just look like base cards.

01:12:50.67
youcantcompthis
It's.

01:12:54.27
The real Russell
So I think that there are some things in other sports cards that are just going to come back to basketball and look to be fair. We've already seen some of this happening but we haven't seen it to the same heights and we haven't seen it to the same lows with the exception of Kobe White Kobe white went down to ten bucks

01:13:13.17
youcantcompthis
Ah, sure.

01:13:13.45
The real Russell
Be very very careful overpaying for base and that's I'm going to leave it at that I'm not going to sit here and preach but that is like a very it's people are going to start believing you about this stuff. It's not true. What.

01:13:20.11
youcantcompthis
Do you know while we've been talking the Luca account has gone from 50000 to 65000 base ah I know it's it's only in the fortyties, the amount of gem base cards with Luka is over 40000

01:13:33.75
The real Russell
Are you not joking. Okay.

01:13:36.19
youcantcompthis
Of base. Yeah, but that's between psa nine ten bgs like I'm like gem graded is over is over 40000

01:13:40.98
The real Russell
Yeah, right? Okay, okay, fine. So why don't we why don't we use that as an example so it's not impossible for those cards to plummet down exponentially just like those soccer cards have just like Mack Jones has or. It It's not impossible for it to happen. But that also applies just getting one for Christmas Maddie all right? so.

01:14:01.70
youcantcompthis
Matthew Hulls like get out of maybe a luca base gem 10

01:14:13.66
youcantcompthis
Ah.

01:14:14.30
The real Russell
Those last 3 quick hitters were a little bit on the negative side I want to finish the show on a positive side. Let's talk about this card Steph Curry 2009 topps chrome gold refractor number to number to 50 psa seven sold for eighty five thousand four hundred dollars

01:14:24.20
youcantcompthis
Love It. Oh.

01:14:33.90
The real Russell
Adam is this a shrewd purchase or is this a foolhardy purchase.

01:14:43.38
youcantcompthis
PS a 7 is such an interesting grade.

01:14:47.30
The real Russell
Now remember out of this year there wasn't it's not like these days where there's 50 different parallels I think in that year there was 3 or 4 and the one of one hasn't surfaced out of that yet either.

01:14:57.87
youcantcompthis
Um, um, oh wow, um, it is this the same card and and and this is just. Because I only saw it I saw this a while ago when they did the yeah the golden thing on the the special on Netflix that the kids sold for like one seventy five okay is it's the same card was it 10 or is the 50 but it was a 50 but is a higher grade I still think this is.

01:15:20.65
The real Russell
I think that one was number to 10 though wasn't it.

01:15:30.71
youcantcompthis
This is I think this is a smart long term hold.

01:15:39.78
The real Russell
Yeah, so out of that year there's the gold refractor. There's the base to Nine Nine nine and there's the refractor to 500 so

01:15:44.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, so this is the lowest numbering.

01:15:52.64
The real Russell
This is the lowest publicly available of this card. Yep the pop the PA 10 is pop 2 and last sold for 25000 but that was in 2019

01:15:56.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:16:03.22
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:16:09.54
youcantcompthis
But about the 9 Yeah yeah.

01:16:11.14
The real Russell
So if that's so so if that sold for $85000 of PA 7 you could speculate that that p a tablenail sell for what two fifty

01:16:22.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:16:30.65
The real Russell
Look I I think whoever bought this is actually very shrewd and that's why I purposely ask you that question because that's that's the way I wanted to go with this because we were talking about this before if you really nail it down to the.

01:16:30.85
youcantcompthis
What was it all.

01:16:38.92
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:16:49.28
The real Russell
You know the players of our generation. Jordan Kobe Lebron St's that that's the the generation you can make an argument for Janis you can make an argument for Yoki I'm totally fine with that. But yeah I think this is actually a really important card and the fact that yeah.

01:17:01.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:17:08.14
The real Russell
You know there is just 50 of them and.

01:17:09.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah, more card letter. Yeah okay, refractor far out.

01:17:14.71
The real Russell
Final thoughts Adam.

01:17:21.48
youcantcompthis
I Do think Curry curry is one of those long-term investment players. Um.

01:17:24.49
The real Russell
Um, yes.

01:17:30.80
youcantcompthis
God the hobby the the hobby is looking good. That's my final thought and all those people on the central coast of the United States are going to be excited to hear us talk about it. Do you like that. That's it getting ready for their their Saturday evening basketball fix.

01:17:32.65
The real Russell
Great, great and that's.

01:17:43.50
The real Russell
Drinking their coffee listening to us that sounds fantastic. Yeah.

01:17:49.21
youcantcompthis
Listening to the you can't comp this radio show. That's it like we're gonna listen to yeah, we're gonna listen to Adam and Russell Adam's gonna slag out Luka before we watch Luka Drop 40 points and not get the chocolates at the end of the season.

01:17:50.38
The real Russell
Imagine that as a pregame ritual that is sick.

01:18:09.70
youcantcompthis
Um, I feel like I owe Luca Luca donty to an apology. But I think I need to see him in person in order to give him that apology I'm gonna see even apology I'm gonna be like I'm really sorry I was wrong.

01:18:12.95
The real Russell
So when he wins the Mvp I'm going to send you that meme about the with the apology slip on it. Yeah.

01:18:24.38
youcantcompthis
Here's a Luka Dontage bsa 10 base card population 400000 no I'm kidding I'm kidding no look I'd like to see him win an Mvp or championship or something to to really just to make me shut up about it.

01:18:29.63
The real Russell
Yeah, oh god.

01:18:43.21
youcantcompthis
But yeah.

01:18:43.28
The real Russell
My final thoughts are blank Slates Blank Slates Blank Slates Let's go for the blank slates. Yeah, thanks everyone.

01:18:47.64
youcantcompthis
Black slates. It is. But yeah, thanks everyone. We will see you next week