Episode 143: Jokic 3x MVP, Anthony Edwards, Playoffs Review, Wemby, Stupidest Thing I've Ever Heard

Welcome back to this weeks show, Adam and Russell breakdown
Nikola Jokic's MVP  voting breakdown, Silver PSA 10 review, and NT RPA /99    PSA   10 breakdown. World summary of MVP winners and all time the Players with 3 MVPs.

- Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards,  Anthony Edwards Card Ladder,  1/1 sale,  2022 Black 1/1, Red /299.

 - Wolves vs Nuggets, Murray vs Townes, NBA University,  Defensive player of the year
- Pacers vs Knicks
- Thunder vs Mavs   and   Josh Giddey     
- Celtics vs Cavs  and  Evan Mobley.
- Not a show without Wemby, Cherry Blossom,  Rookie of the year voting.
- Eye catching sale
- The stupidest thing I've ever heard

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Transcript

00:00.00
youcantcompthis
On the tube.

00:00.00
Adz
You in which case I probably won't see the live feed. Anyway, let's be let's be fair but we'll we'll work with what we've got this week exactly right? and Anthony Edwards I think that's that that guy's worth talking about. He's going right.

00:09.90
youcantcompthis
It's all we can do and.

00:15.79
youcantcompthis
Hundred percent to be honest with you if if he didn't win Mvp I would have just started off with Anthony Eitz but

00:27.37
Adz
Ah, who but like ah was it shay sda that got second and let me see the the final votes was it Luca and then sha hu.

00:29.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah I know Luke Luca and then she yeah I'm pretty sure hang on a second got that in the sheet I know you're right shathing Luca yeah.

00:44.66
Adz
Yeah, yeah, it's someone was was messaging me about it. The other day is kind of interesting. No not interesting at all, not interesting at all quite boring when you think about it. Um, least Luke is getting up there hey top 3 is that an accolade. He can put on his resume to make his card prices go up fair fair, all right one 43 right? Yes, it says it perfect. Perfect.

01:02.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah, save save the um save the banter for the show. Mr. Adam all right, you ready? Whatever I wrote on the run sheet is correct I I did check that before I um penciled it in. Yeah.

01:27.74
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 143 of the you can't cop this Mba trading card podcast where your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson Russell it's awards time.

01:43.86
youcantcompthis
Absolutely Mvp rookie of the year defensive player of the year was that all in one week

01:50.45
Adz
Defensive play it it it pretty much dropped. Yeah over the space of like three days I think it was the defensive player was was unquestionably Rudy go bear was it unquestionable was it was it I don't know.

02:00.55
youcantcompthis
Was it I don't know I thought victor put up some pretty good defensive stats to be honest.

02:09.20
Adz
He did he did um it didn't I don't think it went in his favor that his team finished dead asks last. So um, that probably matters with with defensive players here.

02:13.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah, absolutely not. Well actually now that we're touched on this which was not in the Run sheet. So we've sewayed before we've even started but these individual awards very much do depend on team success and I think the best way to describe what's happening with the wolves at the moment is.

02:24.13
Adz
I Like this a good segue.

02:31.82
Adz
Um, yeah.

02:37.68
youcantcompthis
Their regular season success is now being represented in the individual player awards. So yeah.

02:41.71
Adz
Yeah, for sure. Yeah that that makes sense um look to be the defensive player of the year you'd expect your team to be better than the bottom and their defensive rating to be pretty good overall and that's ah.

02:52.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

02:56.28
Adz
You look at minnesota they do have the best defensive rating in the league and and rightly so Rudy Gobert is an amazing defensive player and this will probably be his last defensive player of the year as he hands over to Victor Muana for the next decade but yeah

03:11.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look all right look I'm actually not that upset about that Rudy did get it because he he is still a rookie Victor but at the same time it is kind of exciting because if you think about what.

03:18.46
Adz
I think he deserved it.

03:28.73
youcantcompthis
Rudy does in terms of his shot blocking and his room protection I feel very comfortable saying that ficta can do the same thing but he is a lot more mobile. So for all the things that Rudy can't do that's where I might in the next couple of years that's going to be for me the most intriguing part of.

03:35.13
Adz
Yeah.

03:42.31
Adz
Victor yeah.

03:44.12
youcantcompthis
So yes, we know the things he can do offensively but what is he going to be able to do defensively the next couple of years like that's to me very intriguing. So.

03:49.81
Adz
Yeah, women Weana is gonna be. It's a watch this space. It's very yeah, watching his evolution is gonna be entertaining to say the least.

04:04.40
youcantcompthis
Absolutely anyway, let's not get too sewayed before we even kick off. Let's get straight into our ah number one topic which is the Mvp which is for Nicola Yoke so congratulations to the big guy I am happy that he he won the Awardd.

04:10.44
Adz
Yes.

04:17.45
Adz
Yes.

04:19.64
youcantcompthis
And I love watching him play basketball I love the way he plays I love what he does for his teammates. I love what he does for mostly just the game of basketball I think he's a fantastic representation of the and Nba and I'm going to put this to you. Did you do you think now that the league has. Been officially passed on to Nico Yoki I think that's the first place to start.

04:42.38
Adz
I think he is now you can't you can't deny how good he is like you can't call it a fluke. You can't he He's so such an all round player and he's demonstrated it time and time again. The reality is he probably should have four Mvp awards I mean last year was was splitting hairs they were trying not to give it to him.

05:08.75
youcantcompthis
Really.

05:18.86
Adz
I Yeah ah look no no, no discredit to Mbed but there was a case to be made that that yokage could have taken yeah could could now be on four mvps.

05:27.98
youcantcompthis
I agree with that narrative that voters tried to go away from repeat giving it to award witness I definitely agree with that particularly for Mvp. So yeah, I'm fine with that. So.

05:36.18
Adz
Yep. Yeah but but this year I don't think I mean once once in bead went down and sure look um sda he had ah a fair crack at it. But do we want to just look at the breakdown.

05:51.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely. Absolutely.

05:55.54
Adz
First place votes 79 it's unanate like it's such ah, an overwhelming number of first place votes did anyone doubt that he was going to win Mvp probably not.

06:02.90
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

06:11.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah I thought he was going to win it I think it was a huge stretch for sda to win and I think the person who I thought was going to get more votes was Luka and I actually wonder if the same voting.

06:20.33
Adz
And.

06:29.40
youcantcompthis
Strategy that people put on victor for defensive player of the year I think it's been applied to Luca for Mvp in that he'll be Mvp. Yeah well yeah, team performance but also he'll be there in the future. So in the next 2 to 3 years that's when Luca is going to be winning say 3 mvps in a row I wonder if that's the sort of the narrative in the back of people's heads and.

06:35.61
Adz
Tame performance.

06:46.77
Adz
Didn't it who how Hol Luca's like 25 now he's just turned 25 so you's still very young. Yeah, and still got 0 mvps right? just just checking yeah

06:49.12
youcantcompthis
And whether that's right or wrong. That's a separate argument altogether. But. Yeah, he's ridiculously young. Yeah, he still has 0 Mvp. Yeah I was waiting for you. How long it's going to take for you to ah, get get it into luco. But that's all right? We're about 5 minutes in you've done well and you've done. Well.

07:04.60
Adz
Yeah, just get get it get is get the knife in nice and early I did well like I got I I referred to em beed gave so Sda some press before I went and dug the knife into Lucas back anyway.

07:13.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

07:17.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so sga fifteen first place votes forty second place votes and forty Third place votes.

07:28.22
Adz
So you it was a good showing very good showing by both Sda and Luka but ah but I think it's it's pretty clear. You can't look past the joker at the moment Yokitch is.

07:30.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

07:43.31
youcantcompthis
Yeah, absolutely.

07:44.12
Adz
He's phenomenal and it's going to be an interesting series I think that they're currently locked in. Let's.

07:51.84
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right? So we haven't spoken about cards yet. So let's let's get get down to it ad silver psa ten last sold for three thousand five hundred usd pop on that for psa is 100 and

08:01.28
Adz
So it's ah.

08:07.98
Adz
Who.

08:08.50
youcantcompthis
59 so in terms of what we're used to talking about with the more the ultra ultramoder that is extremely low pop if you're looking at growth over the last two years he's up 37% if you zoom in a little bit closer the last three months he's up 20% so

08:14.97
Adz
There is.

08:24.70
Adz
Okay.

08:27.79
youcantcompthis
I I look we spoke about this gentleman last week and I was very high on him and and I was trying to look at this from a perspective of an all- timer and we were discussing this and the Mvp award hadn't been announced yet. But in the back of my mind. I thought he would be winning it and the other thing I thought too was that the nuggets are looking pretty good this year and he might win another championship so the wolves have done their darnedest to destroy my assumption there so that this series for me is easily the most watchable series out of all the fort. Not that i'm. Not enjoying any of them. But for me this wolves nugget series is can't Miss Tv that's as simple as yeah for me I just can't miss these games because you know if the wolves win 1 more game then it's 3 one then that's it's to climb back from that's almost impossible. So.

09:07.87
Adz
DC this is the battle. This is actually the battle. Yeah.

09:22.80
Adz
Um.

09:23.30
youcantcompthis
I Love I'm loving this series so much at the moment. It's just been a fantastic fantastic series.

09:29.79
Adz
It's ah it it's strange because what the first 2 games were in Denver and the wolves took those games and you're like oh this is this is this is.

09:41.16
youcantcompthis
That's right, Yeah, it completely turned the series on its head. Yeah.

09:46.84
Adz
This is going crazy and then the man the man ah in question right now. Nikcola yokitch stepped up in game 3 and they've they've taken. They've made this a series. They are the reigning champions. So I would never.

09:58.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah, absolutely.

10:05.70
Adz
Be riding them off That's for sure.

10:06.10
youcantcompthis
So I finished the show last week saying that he's a strong buye I'm still staying with that. My position hasn't changed in a week if anything it's strengthened a little bit just because he's now got another Mvp so I thought just for a little bit of context we could look at who else is one three Mvp so other.

10:15.96
Adz
Of home.

10:24.51
Adz
That's yeah.

10:25.23
youcantcompthis
Plays with 3 andvps magic johnson Larry Bird Moses Malone with 3 lebron James Wilt Chamberlain with 4 Jordan with 5 Bill Russell with 5 and Kareem with 6 So I think in terms of that's right, the the rarefied air.

10:27.43
Adz
No.

10:37.47
Adz
Some pretty elite company.

10:43.76
youcantcompthis
And the part where I'm sitting now. Actually when you look at this list. There's 9 guys in there. That's a really good top 9 list and maybe all these debates we have about the top 10 of all time and maybe you just look at this list and you say this is it and and wherever you put this one. First second or third or fourth fifth or sixth. That's the real you know, debate of it all, but you know what a list that is I mean Moses Malone is probably a little bit too highest and that's probably the one you'd argue away. But yeah, but look what a list is that so.

11:02.53
Adz
Yeah.

11:11.67
Adz
That'd be the the first one you'd you'd you'd probably. What happens if he wins a fourth what happens if you wins a fourth.

11:19.56
youcantcompthis
I'm not moving I wonder for mvps that yes, it's important. But I wonder if a championships is the next part like if he just has one championship that's still fantastic. But if he gets 2 or 3 I wonder if the the narrative increases around him. But that's the part that's more important to increase his narrative. Yeah yeah.

11:40.94
Adz
Yeah I do I do think there's a ah lot of weight on number of championships because it's great look look at that list and Michael Jordan sitting there on 5 but that's to go with 6 rings. Yeah, it's yeah.

11:44.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

11:51.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right? yeah.

11:56.79
Adz
I mean but then you look at Bill Russell with a lot of rings that go with that.

11:59.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that I think that becomes a very complicated conversation when you're parrying that out. But yeah.

12:05.29
Adz
It's it's a weird equation but you're right rings do come with it finals Mvp is like there's there's a few. There's a few different criteria I think would be the right word.

12:13.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah, jumping back to cards I've thought it'd be nice to have a look at something that wasn't a silver psa ten. So I found hiss 2015 national treasures.

12:26.48
Adz
Who.

12:32.56
youcantcompthis
Number to 99 rookie Autograph so no patch in that just straight rookie autograph PA 10 though so population on this is nine so incredibly low population. The super fun thing about this conversation is the original sales. So if you scroll out to the old time data.

12:37.53
Adz
Yep.

12:40.98
Adz
Very low.

12:50.56
youcantcompthis
The first couple of sales were sub 2000 in fact there was actually a cell less than a thousand 810 and then after that it was literally just an exponential rise up. So the last sale on this was $35000

12:55.46
Adz
Wow.

13:05.65
Adz
To they did you you I'm just checking but it's like is it a does it parallel the winning of Mvps do you know what? I mean.

13:16.57
youcantcompthis
I would say that where it's going exponentially up that was before Oh no, that is about right? Yeah, that is about right? You're right? But I think the kind of the fun thing about this guy is that he was such a late draft pick and the first year he.

13:21.66
Adz
Was it 21 22 and 24 yeah

13:31.10
Adz
Oh have you said have you seen the the mean and where it's like we're taking it number. Whatever it was and it's a Taco Bell ad and he's literally just the the little runner at the bottom of the screen nugget select yokitch. That's the that's the footage of his draft.

13:42.54
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then maybe that's the best way to explain why these people sold it at at the price that they did. You can't even throw shade of them. He was literally.

13:54.27
Adz
Um.

13:56.64
youcantcompthis
Second round pick wasn't playing that much for his first like year and a half two years so yeah now the last thing I found which is basically going to fit into that classic category that is so often associated with our show just useless pieces of information but this is from.

14:00.22
Adz
Um, and then all of a sudden.

14:15.74
youcantcompthis
Kirk Goldsberry so if you don't follow Kirk on Instagram on Twitter do yourself a favor. This guy is an absolute genius and he'll he'll share as much information as he can. So basically it's every single Mvp winner and he set it up graphically so that it's the flag of the country where you were born.

14:33.80
Adz
Yeah.

14:35.18
youcantcompthis
And so it's littered with american flags and then the last six years they're not american plays. So I think what he's trying to represent here is how that the game is becoming so international and that I I think the.

14:41.74
Adz
And um.

14:46.56
Adz
Wow.

14:52.25
youcantcompthis
The other part of it too is about the american developmental system. There's been a lot of criticism over the years about obviously the and nzla model which is now being completely revamped and they're allowed to play professionally I'm using air quotes and that and also the aa model where essentially they're saying that's actually.

14:55.31
Adz
In Yeah, okay, okay, yep.

15:10.60
youcantcompthis
Detrimental for people's health but also their basketball development. So yeah, ah I think that's it's an amazing piece of graphic there. So yeah.

15:12.42
Adz
Oh.

15:21.24
Adz
It's it is. It's that um a allowio one was the first non-american to win an Mvp as well. Canada's sitting there with 2 old Steve Nash yeah one of those should have been Kobe's anyway um

15:25.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah, my boy.

15:36.85
youcantcompthis
You're not bitter about that still are you made? yeah.

15:37.67
Adz
Not at all, not not at all, not at all. Um it is it is well I guess it's country Birth isn't going to change but and bede's now considered an american.

15:48.34
youcantcompthis
Do you know the funny thing about that ad is that that's nearly twenty years ago so we're literally like the old men in the room complaining about stuff from twenty years ago yeah final final thoughts on MB are ah.

15:54.91
Adz
Ah, complete. Yeah yeah, this is oh goodness. Yeah, that is Wow on in beed on the joker. Ah, there's still. There's still. There's still a ceiling there.

16:05.13
youcantcompthis
Unimbayed on jerker.

16:11.72
Adz
And needs more championships and I think I think it can and and and I don't see any reason he couldn't win another one Mvp that is the yeah I definitely think there is the potential.

16:12.13
youcantcompthis
So you think that card can still go up there. Absolutely.

16:23.29
youcantcompthis
Show.

16:30.26
Adz
For for another ring to go with it and and potential in the future. So.

16:34.42
youcantcompthis
All right? The second thing in the run sheett is Anthony Edwards Anthony Edwards Anthony Edwards to be honest with you I wanted to start off with edwards just for the fact, this guy is red hot. We've been talking about Victor Wembbergana the last few weeks how hotty is how he's bringing pe people back into the hobby. Blah blah blah blah blah but at the same time there's something being brewing that we have touched on but we haven't touched on it probably as much as we should have but in saying that if you look at his card ladder graph.

16:58.58
Adz
Ah, yeah.

17:03.89
Adz
Um, we yeah.

17:09.44
youcantcompthis
The only way that you can describe his last couple of weeks is just an exponential straight line upwards to the sky.

17:14.27
Adz
I think it's appropriate to at this point give the Jordan shrug like he did and just what's going on. Yeah.

17:18.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah that's right in terms of hobby card valley that's exactly what's happening so his prices are so crazy. He's basically back to pandemic levels and I think if we use a 1 line summary of what we're about to talk about I think that's it He's back to pandemic levels so his last sale was 1758. It's just it's just unbelievable. So if you scroll back to the last month he is up one hundred and thirty five percent from about six fifty

17:39.85
Adz
It's it's.

17:55.96
youcantcompthis
And all the way up to that. So my recollection was ad we were talking about this guy in the six hundred sift six fifty Mark we were saying the population on this is is ridiculous. 1677 just on psa. Do we want to be touching this? No, we don't.

18:04.33
Adz
Pretty high. Yep.

18:14.57
youcantcompthis
Think we should. We should be looking at you know, different cards numbered cards if they're lownumbered blah blah blah blah blah and then of course you know this happens. He's up one hundred and thirty five percent so I think first things first we need to say um we were wrong. Obviously ah, but the second thing I'm going to add to this is I think guys if you're holding Anthony Edwards at the moment get them out of your box.

18:19.18
Adz
Ah, ah.

18:32.33
Adz
That it it's it's yeah.

18:34.23
youcantcompthis
And now now is the time to flip and or sell whichever term of phrase you would prefer to use I don't want to hurt. Anyone's feelings at home. But um.

18:42.70
Adz
I Think this is a market reaction personally.

18:45.10
youcantcompthis
Sure it is but you have to also read the market and know when it's time to buy and time to sell right? So I think we have to discuss that. Yeah yeah, so I cut you off at what we're going to say.

18:48.99
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's it. It's it is a pandemic pricing like I'm looking at the last month and then you go back to what the all time.

19:00.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's wild isn't it. Yeah.

19:07.97
Adz
What's the all time high is 1966 and we're pushing it where we're really pushing it at the moment 16 25 like we're back at that that 2021 22 pricing that's wow

19:10.34
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

19:19.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, look I don't have a particular issue with this to be honest with you I Think in a way This is actually kind of a fun part of the Hobby How we do have these you know massive spikes and.

19:36.30
Adz
Yeah.

19:39.00
youcantcompthis
You know, trying to pick them and you know look for patents and trends and stuff like that and and I think this is really fun but at the same time too. I just look I'm going to double down just what I said you know a couple of weeks back it's six fifty I'm like you know to me this is like very much a tread carefully you know proposition and yeah, so now my. Well actually I have changed a bit haven't I now it's just an absolute sell for me so and look if you sell one of these and you still want to buy back into Edwards you know that's totally fine I don't have a problem with that. But just with the overall population and the and the price hike on this.

20:07.42
Adz
That's yeah. What about people that are looking even I'm just trying to look for some value in the edgewood stuff. The fast break is currently selling at 800 us like the it's.

20:14.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah, just a straight base fast break.

20:26.98
Adz
Fast break. What's the prism the sparkly, the little cirly sparkly one I don't know what they call that for the those playing at homer on Youtube I've got the the image up, but it's like the cirly sparkles comes out of fast break. It's got twenty twenty and any fast break prism.

20:31.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so.

20:46.69
Adz
So fast break Prism must be a different silver I'm guessing.

20:48.39
youcantcompthis
So if it's the base fast break. It will literally just look that silvery the prism but with dots on it for lack of a better word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect. Yeah, so.

20:56.41
Adz
Dots. Yeah, yeah, it's got the circles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that pop count of 65 on that in a psa ten.

21:06.63
youcantcompthis
Right? Okay so I can see it on your screen now. Okay, cool. So ah I would say for that purchase be doubly careful with that because that fast break variant is not overly collected and look I Love fast break.

21:08.99
Adz
Yeah I would say.

21:19.77
Adz
Um, which is funny because it's the same image right.

21:23.70
youcantcompthis
I Love fast break personally and I think there's a lot of value to be had there but at the same time I would be just very careful buying that on a spike that it is okay so what I would say though is a completely different thing though if you're looking at numbered fast break. You know I don't have a problem with it. But at the same time too.

21:30.53
Adz
Yeah, hypers.

21:42.21
youcantcompthis
I Would actually say just flip out your silvers If you've got them now hold onto it. He'll dip back down a little bit and then you know buy back in because this is I would actually say this is not sustainable for him. So yeah, right I did funds.

21:46.49
Adz
Yeah.

21:56.50
Adz
Is this a matter is this a matter of future pricing is this like people losing it and trying to get in because the the hype train is just about it has left the station.

22:06.10
youcantcompthis
All right? So I think another way of asking that question is what is contributing to this spike right? So for me in my head. there's there's 3 parts of this. Obviously it's his athleticism and his skill and he's playing really well and he is playing exceptionally well I've got no troubles with that.

22:12.27
Adz
Yeah. Um, yeah out of his skin. Yeah.

22:23.87
youcantcompthis
The other part of it too is obviously the timing of the cells. These sales are being timed immaculately and then further to that is obviously the wolves are up to 0 so the narrative there is here comes Anthony Edwards and the wolves knocking out the reigning champions and the current Mvp nicola yoic.

22:32.34
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:41.75
Adz
All in 1 right? like he. It's it's all happening in 1 faus swoop like they just there were 2 up after the 2 games in Denver. What do you say to that. that's that's crazy

22:42.59
youcantcompthis
Like that is a beautiful narrative when you say it like that. Yeah, right? Yeah yeah. Yeah.

22:55.37
youcantcompthis
So a couple of other interesting sales. So this is from card ladder 2022 prism black one of one so the true black that sold for $30600 on PWcc that's PSA 10

23:10.83
Adz
Oh wow.

23:12.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah, this is another one which I think is better to discuss actually in terms of where should you put your money anthony edwards red prism PSA 10 again from our friends at card letter last sold for 3000 if you look at the graph there which is the old time graph actually that card had been up to 2500

23:22.85
Adz
Okay.

23:32.45
youcantcompthis
During the pandemic and then drop down basically to about the Thousand Dollar Mark so you know I think that's a much better buy than the silver though and it's easy for me to say this because it's not my money I'm spending someone else's money but at the same time.

23:33.75
Adz
Um, it's.

23:36.48
Adz
Wow. Okay, so the red to two Ninety nine

23:49.11
Adz
Oh.

23:50.29
youcantcompthis
And I'm saying this with air quotes. It's only twice as expensive as silver but it's numbered to two nine nine like to me in my head that just plays out so much better.

23:59.82
Adz
All right? What? Ah you said numbered fast break I've got one because I just saw it on Instagram and the card ladder the fast break pink to 50 last sold for 5 k.

24:02.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah, talk to me.

24:13.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

24:15.30
Adz
Some in there's some very and I know what you mean by far fast break not being overly collected. There's some some some very yeah intriguing numbers.

24:21.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah I think the pink in particular is quite difficult to collect because even the red is a little bit of a tricky color. But I still think that looks more aesthetically pleasing than the pink. So you've got the fast break and the pink and.

24:34.74
Adz
Probably.

24:39.92
youcantcompthis
I'm just going to try and tie this into my obsession with cherry blossoms. So if we're talking pink right? Both of those cards we can agree. They're relatively pink right? I would still prefer the cherry blossom to the pink fast break. Do you know what? I mean like in terms of the aesthetics of the 2 cards you know I really think there's.

24:43.41
Adz
Ah I thought you were gonna.

24:51.57
Adz
Okay, okay, yeah.

24:59.44
youcantcompthis
More in that cherry blossom than that. So this next one this is a little bit of a follow-up from last week we were talking about blas how he hit the Anthony Edwards 1 of 1 to 1 of his customers in a break and then tried to buy buy it from the customer for 250

25:00.42
Adz
Um, yeah.

25:15.90
Adz
Yep.

25:18.25
youcantcompthis
Plus a $30000 card I found on Instagram at Luka Donchpc had the honor of picking up 2 cards yesterday for 2 huge collectors in Asia at bles sports cards open their doors for me and were gracious hosts for a day.

25:26.55
Adz
Yep.

25:36.49
youcantcompthis
Congrats to Hank and June for getting these 2 beautiful cards. So it's been unsold to a collector in Asia so I'm sure Blaz was very sad to see it go but at the same time congratulations to both the hitter and the and the buyer for obviously that massive sale. They've just pulled off. So.

25:42.48
Adz
Wow.

25:49.67
Adz
Yeah, that's huge Wow Oh would you would you be happy if you were blazz seeing the seeing the card you wanted just disappear off the off the continent I guess.

25:54.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah yep, congrats.

26:08.43
youcantcompthis
I'll look I suspect he probably wanted it to go a different way but he's got other things. He's working on and got in his back pocket. You know he' he'll be able to get over this I I suspect. Yeah.

26:09.46
Adz
Yeah.

26:17.48
Adz
Fair Yeah I think eventually.

26:24.67
youcantcompthis
Final thoughts on Anthony Edwards ah ride. Okay, okay.

26:27.55
Adz
Get on board just get on board I mean I'm still I'm I'm all for for cashing in right now you've made a a few very valid points. But if you've got them cash in this kid's the real deal. Um. Was the joke and that's why I alluded to obviously the the Jordan shrug because he pulled it kobe in the I don't want to be compared to Michael Jordan he's the greatest of all time and then comes out that game and does the like pulls off the moves and then does the shrug and you're like you're loving this.

27:01.35
youcantcompthis
I Think he's an excellent trash talker to man. So I think that just fits into that whole part doesn't it. Yeah.

27:03.31
Adz
He's absolute yeah he he practiced. What was the movie hustle. He was the villain character in hustle. So good. So good. But yes Anthony we're not this is not the last. We're hearing of this kid.

27:11.92
youcantcompthis
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27:22.24
Adz
No.

27:31.00
youcantcompthis
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28:17.50
Adz
Now I want to go and buy 1 of those. Yeah I just ah look just yeah, no I appreciated me support and keep hearing all the packs so we can rip and pull this up.

28:26.64
youcantcompthis
I feel like he'll do you a good deal to be honest, send him a Dm.

28:33.13
Adz
How many how many ant man Rookies can I pull out of that is the question nowadays.

28:40.52
youcantcompthis
Alrighty if we didn't get enough of the wolves and nuggets we're going to talk about it a little bit more because we've got another couple of cards to talk about so from our friends at card ladder bgs Nine point five jamal murray gold rookie card number to 10 last sale. 3965 versus Carl anthony towns bgs nine sold for two thousand six hundred and forty dollars Adam who are you choosing.

29:08.89
Adz
All okay, what's the it's the gold edition of Jamal Murray because it's really handy because the only team he seems to play well against to purple and gold. Um.

29:20.44
youcantcompthis
Ah, you're not sold to at all. Are you ad? yeah.

29:22.14
Adz
not at all not at all I'm um I'm quite quite happy that the nuggets have successfully made it through to the second round of the playoffs. Um, oh goodness I I don't know who I'm taking here I think.

29:37.85
Adz
I'm probably taking Murray purely because he's younger and that that's a really I don't I just feel like there's a little bit of room to grow for for Murray versus towns I think he's now neither of these guys are the guy in their respective team.

29:54.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking just then to yeah.

29:57.12
Adz
Um, Kat used to think he was the guy until ant man showed up and he's also like all but you could almost consider him number 3 in the pecking order.

30:07.95
youcantcompthis
So I do agree with you to appoint what you said about him with sort of being the man you know like he was teamed up with Wiggins I don't really remember any sort of friction between those 2 or you know who was goingnna be handling the ball more I actually think he's. Good teammate and that yeah and I think he's done a really good job of basically handing the keys over to edwards and you know have you heard a peep out of this guy. You know about this you know? yeah.

30:28.43
Adz
Ah, don't disagree with that. Yeah for sure. Yeah.

30:36.58
Adz
No, no, not this season here I think this season he's been very yeah.

30:42.49
youcantcompthis
He's got his own sort of quirky things like saying things like I'm the best big band shooter of all time and all this type of stuff despite you know Dirk Deitsky you know he's been alive mate. You need to watch some old footage. Yeah, but look yeah so I'll go with the murray to.

30:54.59
Adz
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the the.

31:00.12
youcantcompthis
Only thing I would add to this that both of these purchases I would say for me these are very difficult I think both of these are really second bananas on their team and towns for me is doubly difficult just for the fact that he's a big guy and there is that sort of collectibility thing there I think if you're looking for value though.

31:08.35
Adz
Yeah.

31:14.48
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

31:18.36
youcantcompthis
You know there is some value there with Murray but I think the root of all of this and where I'm probably going to end this is that you'd be better off spending that money on the joker. So if you've got 3 9 to spend go out and get yourself some joker because honestly I think that's where it's at at the moment. It's just.

31:28.76
Adz
Yeah.

31:34.61
Adz
I think I think that's where I was going with it. He's not the number 1 guy like you like at this point for both of these teams and it doesn't matter which side of the fence you're on you can be on the the cat side or the murray side if if you want to if you're.

31:48.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

31:53.64
Adz
If you want to go with team kat your money's probably better spent after the the hype dies down on an Anthony Edwards um investment long term anyway and if you're on the the nugget side wait until yeah, get on the joker. So when he wins he's fourth Mvp you get some some traction on that too.

31:58.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

32:09.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, Twitter at Mba Underscore University imagine being a guard and you're getting picked up ninety four feet by Jaden Mcdaniels and then when he gets tired you get picked up ninety four feet by

32:12.55
Adz
Like both of those number 1 guys are on the way up. Still yep.

32:28.91
youcantcompthis
<unk>il Alexander Walker and Anthony Edwards is ready to jump your passing lanes and every time you drive. There are two seven footers in the paint that is hell on earth so to take that one step further we we now talk about the defensive player of the year voting results four hundred and thirty three votes for rudy gobert two forty five for victor. And 91 for bam we're not going to talk about any cards when it comes to rudy go bair because let's be honest, no one collects rudy go bear and no one cares. So I think that's the um, the end of my conversation for this ad would you like to add anything to this before we move on to the next series.

33:02.48
Adz
I I like the fact that they even put Bam and in the in the like it's it's a 2 horse race or look at that the top 4 then we go number 5 is Herbert Jones

33:11.28
youcantcompthis
Like yeah, that's right? yeah.

33:17.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, my boy Herb Jones I'm happy you got a call out that's good. Yeah.

33:20.43
Adz
On 14 points and Anthony Davis who's been complaining about not being recognized at least he's fourth who the hell voted Jaylen Sus who the hell voted Jalen Sus from Orlando for a third place vote.

33:30.15
youcantcompthis
What what does everything come.

33:37.71
youcantcompthis
Probably the probably the Olando land the Orlando broadcaster did that but to be fair sugs has been pretty good defensively I'm actually not outraged by that to be honest, the one that i'm.

33:39.71
Adz
There are 4 players Alex Caruso got a vote.

33:49.96
Adz
Yeah, yep.

33:55.63
youcantcompthis
Surprise about his demonaib bonus in Sacramento I would have thought Caruso Jared Allen is a better vote Jalen Suggs even

34:03.21
Adz
You just like shout out to my boy Derek White 5 votes total points. He got 3 for 3 votes. 2 third place it a second It's oh god Derek why is that gonna move the needle on his prices. But maybe not. He has yeah that Boston tame though who we'll get to them. We'll get to them.

34:23.88
youcantcompthis
Ah, he's been playing pretty well to be fair to you? yeah.

34:33.67
youcantcompthis
All alrighty the next series is paces versus Nicks and I think my commentary about this series so far is the paces have had some incredible luck so far so round one. No yarnis round 2 and Julius Randall

34:54.20
Adz
This is true.

34:58.43
youcantcompthis
Mitchell is it now hurt. Oh Gee's hurt he won't be playing for the next couple of games Josh I was making jokes that oh ge be paying playing 48 minutes a night. Actually it's Josh Hart who's now playing 48 minutes a game at the moment. So.

35:03.41
Adz
Yep.

35:15.69
youcantcompthis
I actually think Indiana is going to run them out the next couple of games I think they're just going to. Yeah I think they're just going to run out of steam and I think that they just had too many injuries now and if the next do win for me. That's just a testament to how amazing.

35:21.40
Adz
Um, you reckon.

35:25.94
Adz
Yeah.

35:33.75
youcantcompthis
A coach Tom Tipido is and just piecing together something that in my head this is shouldn't be happening and then the second part is and this is probably the perfect segue into our next little segment is Jalen Brunson his shotmaking has just been ridiculous and I think to be. If I'm being honest about my own opinions here I've been very dismissive of Jalen Brunson and I probably had my opinion was that he was a good player but now he was in a national market all these talking heads that only watched the lakers and the knicks and no other major Mark.

35:54.50
Adz
Yeah.

36:08.18
Adz
Ah.

36:10.23
youcantcompthis
You know, no other small market teams now they're watching Jalan Brudson pray and now they're saying oh he's Mvp right? But I hate to say it but I'm almost agreeing with Kendrick perkins at the moment which makes me feel a little bit nauseated to be honest, but here we are.

36:16.50
Adz
Ah, da yeah.

36:21.90
Adz
And that's it's it you? yeah no I wouldn't go that far. It's the knicks I like it I know that it has been look I'm not. Ah.

36:26.38
youcantcompthis
Look brunson has been his shotmaking maid has been amazing and I think there's there's no other way to say it. He's just been amazing. So just keep playing the way you are Brunson. You're amazing mate. Yeah, but.

36:41.89
Adz
It's what happens when Randall comes back. Do they play well are they are they better without Randall and I'm and I'm a I'm a randall fan. So.

36:50.40
youcantcompthis
Huge Randall found you need to tell people what your pc was for about 5 years

36:56.38
Adz
Yeah I was ah it's probably the but yeah, the probably the pc that is bigger than my kobe collection is is Julius Randall um was very devastated when he was was well didn't resign and tested free agency will say.

37:00.81
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

37:10.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

37:12.93
Adz
Um, but like I love Randall's play but I don't know if he works in this current New York like lineup he used to be like the point forward and now you've got Brunson who handles the ball quite well. Um I yeah I don't know I don't know what happens when Randall comes back.

37:30.33
youcantcompthis
Look I don't think he is the fit that o g is for tibs and the system I agree with you but I would also say at the same time I think Randall really was doing his best to do? What was asked of him in the system that he was put into.

37:45.20
Adz
Also a great. Yeah.

37:47.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and I would also say to I would say despite the fact that Tibbs and Randall probably aren't the best match I think there was a lot of mutual respect there and I actually thought I actually thought he was playing hard and he was you know making momentum plays and doing all the things that you can still do and not again, not be that sort of perfect fit.

37:56.23
Adz
A grade.

38:04.62
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

38:07.69
youcantcompthis
So look I think when he comes back and if they bring him back early because of all the injuries they've had I think it'll be like an oasis for that team like they're so hungry just for you know rotation plays like Alec bikes was playing what 18 minutes the last game something ridiculous. You know like that's not the the Tibbs dream is it so anyway.

38:14.20
Adz
Yeah.

38:22.80
Adz
Um, yeah, no, no.

38:27.51
youcantcompthis
Play versus player Jaylen Brunson pop of 437 on this last sold for 408 again that very vertical line. He had probably not quite as vertical as the Anthony Edwards that we just discussed but very much on the way up then on the other side of our play versus player here. Got Tyree Halliburton so population on that three forty two. so a little bit less there and the last sale was 266 his graph here is very much up and down almost like sort of ah, a static sort of line isn't it. Yeah, and so yeah.

38:57.61
Adz
Higgly squiggly bit of a bit of a bit of a dip.

39:03.52
youcantcompthis
The last two years Halliburton's actually down 15% look I'm personally go with the Halliburton and I'm looking at this from from 2 perspectives that Brunson is you know on a very steep uphill and I would probably anticipate that to come back down again on the other hand I probably like halliburton.

39:10.37
Adz
Same. Ah.

39:23.52
youcantcompthis
All time as a you know more substantial player. So.

39:26.37
Adz
Um, I think they're both very good guards and it's it's funny because I think maybe three fifty s their sweet spot. So I'm I'm I'm sticking with Halliburton as well. It's really funny.

39:34.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

39:39.43
Adz
How we've both kind of agreed that we've underrated Brunson and then gone now with it's go with the other guy but it's it's he's he spied too much for me. Um I think it's it. Yeah, if i.

39:43.80
youcantcompthis
Horribly horribly. Yeah, and yeah, yeah, definitely. So yeah, that's a cell I think that's another part of this conversation too. Is you know? do you have Jelen Brunson sitting in your box. Okay, if you do. Would you like to flip that out into something that fits your pc better I think that's a very sensible thing to do at the moment.

39:57.99
Adz
Yeah.

40:04.50
Adz
Yeah, like it's it's no this is not I'm not choosing Halliburton because I think Brunson's rubbish it's I think he's he's just um, we've sort of missed the Hype Train Once again if he was it was 308 I'm buying that for sure. Um.

40:13.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

40:20.58
Adz
But I think Halliburton might be undervalued at that because I think he's a light like as you said, um, all time I think he is probably he's demonstrated anyway that he's got the the potential to be an all-time great as far as point guards go.

40:37.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah I think the other thing that's been on my mind a little bit too with Halliburton is that if you sort of Zoom that graph in a little bit shorter. You can actually see that he's coming down of quite a high and that was probably one of the concerns I had about Halliburton was that.

40:45.17
Adz
New. Yeah.

40:56.48
youcantcompthis
You can rate this guy and say okay, you know there's a bit of value here but does the rest of the market or are there other people that share that same opinion for him to then increase his value and I think that's where I'm probably sitting a little bit now like actually other people do feel the same way and.

40:58.16
Adz
M.

41:06.17
Adz
Yeah.

41:14.80
youcantcompthis
He has had a bit of a spike so that sort of gives me a good sort of positive you know, looking out into the future say I think this guy can spike again. So look I think this Indiana team is.

41:18.15
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

41:28.97
youcantcompthis
Hideously flawed in a lot of ways. But at the same time constructed in a very intelligent way where they're trying to maximize everything that they can. So I think this is a very good situation for Hella Burton but I would also say too I don't think.

41:38.61
Adz
Oh.

41:43.22
youcantcompthis
This is the last good situation. This kid's going to be in you know I think they can keep building around him and in improving the situation. So yeah, I'm definitely not panicking at this point.

41:48.21
Adz
Certainly yeah yeah, but yeah, definitely no, no shade at our friend Jalen Brunson who has had a phenomenal phenomenal season.

41:59.56
youcantcompthis
Ah, no way Definitely not? yeah yeah, final thoughts on that mate.

42:05.59
Adz
As entertaining as this season is I don't think the championship is coming from this matchup.

42:10.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, if they get to the if the paces get to the East finals though I am not going to be shocked like they have just had the bracket from heaven.

42:18.97
Adz
I think it will be a very entertaining series and well and now you've got I know the walking wounded in green. The worst thing it can happen. We'll talk about them but I don't know once there's a question Mark over pausingus I think. The the almost unstoppable cellttics look very stoppable anyway, that's not the series. We're talking about. Let's do it.

42:42.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely not let's have a break at.

43:30.17
youcantcompthis
We are back. Thank you for coming back. We hope you enjoyed the break. Do you know we haven't done this week at his talk about central coast radio and now is the perfect time to say.

43:36.81
Adz
We did. It was great.

43:43.70
Adz
We haven't.

43:49.90
youcantcompthis
Welcome to all of our central coast radio listeners. Thank you for tuning in whether it's morning afternoon or night and huge shout out to David Griffiths who is the host of popcorn conspiracy if you don't listen to his show or his podcast. At least give it one go because he's doing some really good content out there I went onto his show this week as a guest I can't say that I was wrapping myself in glory in my appearance there but I will say that I felt honored.

44:11.48
Adz
Yeah.

44:27.16
youcantcompthis
To be with David for a very short period of time. So yeah, popcorn conspiracy on all of your podcast platforms. But also of course on central coast radio. So please check them out all right. Our next series is thunder versus mavs and. This has been fantastic for me I've been loving this series. What's your thoughts so far about thunder versus mavs.

44:48.63
Adz
Yeah I Oh this is this is the I might have to concede some point series. So let's hope the Thunder can pull a finger out. Um.

44:57.31
youcantcompthis
Sure So where are you at.

45:03.35
Adz
We're running out of time for Kyrie to lose it and blow up the Mavericks like he's actually playing some damn good basketball.

45:08.55
youcantcompthis
I would go further than that I would say he's being playing inspired basketball and I would.

45:13.46
Adz
Yeah, maybe he's been listening to all the all all the the rubbish talk I've been going on about is a Melbourne boy might by listen.

45:23.17
youcantcompthis
If he does listen I'll be shocked but at the same time it would be flattering so just to speak about that really really quickly about defensive effort intensity I actually wonder if it's almost impossible to play hard for 82 games a year plus playoffs and.

45:26.98
Adz
Are.

45:36.41
Adz
Um.

45:42.36
Adz
Oh.

45:43.60
youcantcompthis
Maybe he's been keeping the tank for a little bit too long but actually this is his potential and he can play at this level. He's just you know, choosing to pace himself a little bit. So yeah, Kyrie's been playing out of his head. The thing that's really come out to me is the supporting cast of the Mavericks is so.

45:52.37
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

46:02.69
youcantcompthis
I was just talking about the paces team that's well crafted I actually think this Mavericks team you have to put into that same conversation. Derek Lively is insane jones junior yeah.

46:04.39
Adz
Ah, yeah.

46:08.79
Adz
Ah, yeah, I'm I'm shocked actually like it seemed like a pack of unknowns. Yeah.

46:17.71
youcantcompthis
I think they just crafted that team really and scouted really well like Jones Jr is playing with an amount of swagger that is actually impressive and the way he walks. It's almost like people are scared of him I don't think they are but at the same time that's just like the persona that he's like coming out with and then you've got.

46:24.84
Adz
Yeah.

46:30.52
Adz
Fit.

46:36.37
youcantcompthis
Luka and Kyrie and Pj Washington look I wasn't overly convinced that was the right fit there but he's doing enough to to fit in and and playing hard and you know doing enough in the fringes to actually make himself valuable in the court. So look I'm I'm loving this series I think on the flip side of the court with the o kc thunder game. 2 Josh giddy didn't play it all in the second half he played very minimal minutes in game three that was all around the defensive matchups by the Mavericks where they were essentially just not defending him at all. You know so. You know how that goes from here. You're already hearing people crying out that Josh Gidy should be traded in the offseason I'm actually not convinced that he will be traded in the offseason I think the more obvious thing to me is that he needs to spend time with a shooting coach and from us.

47:30.98
Adz
Um, that's.

47:31.99
youcantcompthis
From a secondary point of view. He's still a very young player in a very young prospect like that's not outrageous to say that his jump shot needs to improve. Do you know what? I mean like that's totally fine is he being played off the floor though Absolutely and it might be that for the rest of this series. We're not going to see very much of got.

47:50.90
Adz
Bit sad bit bit sad that that that's that's how it's gone I mean obviously.

47:50.20
youcantcompthis
Josh Giddy it all. So.

47:54.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so Josh giddy silver psa ten last sold for $ 54 population of this is 143 with psa his market cap is down to seven thousand seven hundred dollars if you zoom out and you go to the last two years with Josh Giddy that is an incredibly steep downhill. He was at three fifty at one point and I reckon we were talking about him at two fifty being a goodbye and then he had that incident where there was some allegations of him being with somebody who was of.

48:28.80
Adz
Yeah, and in an inappropate and inappropriate age bracket.

48:33.96
youcantcompthis
Not the legal age. Yeah, and then he's basically just you know being going downhill then my recollection was at around the $80 mark 80 to $100 Mark we saying no I think we had a difference in opinion on this I was saying he's going to the playoffs and it's gonna be a goodbye and again I've been I've been.

48:45.40
Adz
There's a buy. Yeah yeah.

48:52.51
youcantcompthis
Wrong about a lot of stuff this last couple of weeks haven't I so he's going down further look I'm going to double down on this I think at $50 it's totally fine I think that if he does have a change of scenery. There's still potential there. But more importantly I think this kid can improve his jump shot to a point that he's you know playing 30 to 35 minutes in a playoff game. So.

49:11.48
Adz
Yeah I think there is definitely room to grow and it's something I actually said about giddy I think it would have been the fever world cup like previous like watching Australia play.

49:12.50
youcantcompthis
That's where I sit with this.

49:28.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

49:31.11
Adz
And it's very very much he needs to get that offensive side to the game because he showed I think it was against France where he he came out and he started shooting the ball well and he started to take over and you're like that's the giddy we need to see more regularly but that's the only time I've really seen it like there are glimmers of it like.

49:43.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

49:51.10
Adz
But you can't have that in the Nba playoffs. You can't have potential or do you know what? I mean like not.

49:57.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah I do I do agree with you but ah for me fundamentally I Actually think that that's not really his game I think he sees himself more as a point forward who's facilitating and you know on paper it kind of makes sense that he would fit this team that he's got shay.

50:05.64
Adz
Yeah.

50:15.34
youcantcompthis
Jalen Williams he's got chet all of those guys can shoot well enough that they can play off him. But yeah, he's.

50:15.40
Adz
Ah.

50:18.98
Adz
I think he needs to be developed well enough that he can do it if need be and that's a thing like that's that's what's happened to him now. Yeah, he needs the string in his bow.

50:26.61
youcantcompthis
That's right, that's exactly right? that is exactly right? Yeah and I think that's the perfect place. Yeah, so the head to head I made up for this series is sga versus Luca and this is a fun one because yeah, so this is a really fun one for me because.

50:39.58
Adz
Ah, trigger alert for Adam.

50:44.52
youcantcompthis
It really is 2 prospects at different points if you're looking at their graph so sga is on very much a steady graph upwards and Luca is very much on a steady graph downwards now population on these 2 cards is also polar opposites so we've got shay at 31 which is not a small amount. But. It's not 2292 which is Luca donage only on psa's by the way silver rookies correct. Yeah so to the first question is I'm going to say to you right? now? What are you picking and then my secondary question is going to be to you long-term.

51:06.71
Adz
This is PSA 10 silver yeah

51:21.85
youcantcompthis
Which is the better card out of these 2

51:25.70
Adz
Oo the follow-up question I'm very intrigued by um I'm struggling to pick one I see I'm I'm not sure I'm buying the spike with Sda.

51:27.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

51:37.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

51:41.23
Adz
Um I was excited about him when it was around the 500 Mark I'm like that's a buy but it's 700 I'm in buyer beware territory granted I probably still wouldn't pay 141300 for a luca. Um.

51:53.66
youcantcompthis
Yep.

52:01.16
Adz
Given given the pop count given the I don't know does he get to put third place Mvp voting on his plaque because sga gets to put second place I get runner up, you can put Mvp runner up sounds better than third place. Ah.

52:11.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

52:19.68
Adz
Yeah I I'd say if I had them I'd sell them at the moment I'm I'm probably steering clear of both for different reasons. But.

52:23.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right? Yeah, but I have to twist your arm to get you to purchase 1 right now which one would you choose? yeah me too actually and so the long term question for me becomes a little bit more challenging because I think long term.

52:32.93
Adz
S G Hta m.

52:42.59
youcantcompthis
I think Luca is the one that I'd be leaning more towards but at the same time I think what I'm the most worried about here is obviously the population on that just for the fact that what is going to happen to this long term because I think if he doesn't become the greatest of all time the realistic thing that hit. Going to happen here is the bottom's going to fall out of this market at some point.

53:03.61
Adz
Yeah, yeah, there's gonna come a point where the potential and all the okay. So ah I was gonna say excuses but is it like he is young. He's 25 years old I understand that. But he still hasn't done it. He's still. He's not there yet. He's he's got the potential to win multiple mvps in years to come. But why are we paying second Mvp prices for him like we're paying the market is is already given him those awards.

53:25.33
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

53:40.39
Adz
And I'll keep saying that until it drops below a thousand dollars. But.

53:41.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look I think yeah I mean we've been through this so many times and I think I don Yeah, we don't need to get back into it. But I think what you can't deny about this kid is that he does have a lot of youth records. You know the youngest play through this the youngest players do that and I think that's that is a lot to do with it.

53:46.27
Adz
Yeah, we don't yeah it does it does show the potential. It shows the potential.

54:00.50
youcantcompthis
And I think so one thing that I'll run this past to you really quickly and I think we should move on to the next thing so we're nearly up to an hour already do you think his disposition is correct to make him successful long term.

54:18.73
youcantcompthis
Because the way he's been behaving for me I like it a lot you know I Really think he's driven. You can tell that he's constantly improving. Yes, he does complain a little bit too much. But other than that you know I think he's really good with his teammates.

54:35.81
Adz
I I think now now is that you're you're right with your teammates. You're right? But I think I think it's It's the appropriate. Ah, the appropriate time for me to bring up my comment which has been quoted in the run sheet down the bottom.

54:36.50
youcantcompthis
You never see him cussing them out or you know? Yeah yeah.

54:50.45
youcantcompthis
Lets let's slide into that man. Yeah, answer the question then we'll slide into it. How about that? Yeah yeah.

54:52.10
Adz
Um, let's go straight into that. So can we? Okay, um, potentially like I think he's got it's all about potential with Luka like he he and I think he's going about it the right way he is a good teammate. Um.

55:01.54
youcantcompthis
Um, sure Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, so we basically were almost in agreeance. And yeah, yeah.

55:10.55
Adz
Yeah, so so so my comment in the in in the messenger in the in the slack through the through the week was can we all agree that Luka needs to relinquish the nickname baby goat and give it to its rightful owner Anthony Edwards I think the nickname baby goat is probably deserving. Of of ant at the moment. Can we just start calling Luca Baby Bron with all the complaining like I'm waiting for kyri to do something stupid and Luca to replicate bronze like Js ah.

55:45.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

55:48.60
Adz
In the play that'll be Kyree's moment that will be perfect and then we can call him baby bron.

55:52.70
youcantcompthis
Well technically Edwards is one six at the moment and Lucas 1 3 so that's enough for us to call him the baby goat isn't it.

56:03.98
Adz
He's definitely shot through the through the roof and the pop count is not as high still high. But it's not as high as luka. Yeah I think you might be right.

56:10.80
youcantcompthis
600 less I I suspect that's gonna change I wonder now that everything that's going on like people will be sending their cards off like crazy for Anthony Eberts to psa. There's no reason to think that that number's not going to shift a bit higher. Yeah.

56:24.69
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now that's it. Yeah I Yeah I think it's a good, a good place to I'm trying not to be mean to luka. It doesn't come easy. But.

56:39.51
youcantcompthis
It's okay, mate you doing right? All right? Let's quick hit these last 5 or so things in the run sheet so celltics versus calves cavaliers actually pulled out a game in one in Boston so that made this again this series interesting too.

56:51.70
Adz
Yeah, they've tended into ah to a series. Yeah.

56:55.30
youcantcompthis
So where I want to head the narrative on this really quickly is that Jared Allen was out Evan mobly was basically forced to play center and and a lot of the offense in terms of the passing moving the ball went through him I liked it I liked it a lot.

57:04.34
Adz
Yeah.

57:11.90
youcantcompthis
Evan Mobly is not on card ladder card ladder pull out your fingers get this kid on there. So I found some sales on one thirty point he's silver psa ten last sold for $80 a orange laser Don Russ for $25 p say 10 there was.

57:18.27
Adz
Yeah, yep.

57:30.80
youcantcompthis
A gold autograph fast break PSA ten one eighty five a stained glass piece a 10 for $76 and a spectra autograph numbered to 99 sticker autograph for 49 23 look

57:37.47
Adz
Um, to.

57:46.63
youcantcompthis
I don't think there's a heap of hobby love for this guy and I don't think there will be but at the same time I think the way or the analogy you need to use with this guy is that he's just something very steady like a stock that's not going to move up too much. It's not going to move down too much. He's a very good player I I have got no problems if you're buying up. Evan mobly at the moment actually so but I just don't think he's going to see the highs of you know Luca Edwards Etc Etc but I actually wanted to do mobly versus Tatum. That's what I wanted to do but he wasn't even on card ladder so I had to set it with Donovan Mitchell just not the worst thing in the world. We haven't spoken about him for a fair while.

58:06.60
Adz
Yeah.

58:12.10
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

58:23.71
Adz
Pay it.

58:25.51
youcantcompthis
Psa 10 population 610 last sold for $190 or on the other hand would you like Jason Tatum population of 858 if I can read that properly and last sold for basically $900 us um

58:30.88
Adz
Yep.

58:43.86
youcantcompthis
I'm gonna go here with the one of our listeners put this into the Facebook comments I think that was Nathan that said this three and a quarter Donovan Mitchell's over 1 Tatum I'm going with that because I think what for me where I'm a little bit worried with Tatum's is that. Use use the phrase future pricing I wonder if this is built and caked into Tatum already and if they don't win the championship again this year because I think if we can be honest here. They've got a championship level team like they've got an amazing team and this is this is not shade. Yeah.

59:08.82
Adz
Ooh.

59:14.55
Adz
They have they have this is their opportunity. This is yeah.

59:20.44
youcantcompthis
And I think if they don't win it. Ah I think he actually could go down 25 to 30% I wouldn't be shocked. You know what? I mean people like buying up this guy up? yep.

59:28.96
Adz
Oh.

59:33.60
youcantcompthis
He's Gotnna with the championship ah know he's not hasn't done it again. Okay I'm jumping off I'm gonna jump on to Edwards now I'm going to jump on to Sga now. So I sort of put him into that very walking on thin ice type thing.

59:39.53
Adz
Oh.

59:47.63
Adz
Or this is still sort of on Tatum but the price is getting out of it's not out out of reach for me like as far as I think he's got a higher ceiling but you're right? And if I'm going to be true to my criticism of someone like Luca. Um I guess the same criticism has to come to to to Jason Tatum

01:00:10.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look he doesn't have the same scoring pedigree that Luca does but I see why people have formed the narrative that he's got the better championship pedigree and that he can defend he can rebound he can score well enough.

01:00:22.94
Adz
Pedigree.

01:00:29.62
youcantcompthis
He's got the size you know I get it I totally get it all right quick hitting 2023 prism victor wemba you on a green shimmer photo ps a 10 sold for hundred and thirteen thousand usd

01:00:31.78
Adz
Yeah.

01:00:49.25
youcantcompthis
And I finally found a victor wembbanoana cherry which is number to 20 cherry choice scope psa ten sold for $42000 I

01:00:51.26
Adz
That's um.

01:01:05.35
youcantcompthis
I Think that is going to be actually of all these crazy purchases that we've seen I Um, don't know how we can follow this up or how you can hold me accountable for this crazy claim I'm going to make I think this is not going to go down in flames I think this is going to be a very constant and I also think for that price too at that numbering I think that's actually.

01:01:10.35
Adz
Ah.

01:01:24.85
youcantcompthis
Very shrewd.

01:01:25.89
Adz
That the the Cherry blossom.

01:01:28.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:01:33.21
Adz
I Don't know I'm not sold on Cherry blossoms. Be nice, mother's day gift I should have got my mother a cherry Blossom card for mother's day.

01:01:37.36
youcantcompthis
That's okay, not mad be lovely.

01:01:47.86
youcantcompthis
Ah, ah, but you you'll hang on to it for yeah, that's right, Let me let me hang on to that for you Mom yeah.

01:01:49.98
Adz
She'd give it straight. She'd give it straight back. Ah.

01:01:55.64
Adz
Ah, ah I don't know it's that now it still just doesn't but you're right? It's unique. So maybe it maybe it does it is going to be a yeah, a great a good purchase. The the great.

01:02:07.95
youcantcompthis
Do rookie the year voting

01:02:14.51
Adz
Did was this This was a one horse Race wasn't it surely? yeah.

01:02:16.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah I think that's that's probably we can leave it at that 99 first place votes to victor 98 second place votes to chet Brandon Miller got one second place vote and 83 third place votes I think that's it. That's.

01:02:31.54
Adz
Did anyone vote anyone but Victor we Ben Yana for first. No like it's yeah, literally that's unanimous as unanimous as you can get like that's the perfect score.

01:02:36.97
youcantcompthis
No, he got everyone.

01:02:45.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, as you can get Yeah, it is the perfect score Yeah eye catching sail from our friends at Card Letter I am shocked by this so I definitely want to hear your response to this.

01:02:52.67
Adz
Yep, four ninety five.

01:02:59.70
Adz
Oh boy.

01:03:01.78
youcantcompthis
Black shimmer first off the loan Amen Thompson for the Houston rockets $46000 so would you rather have this or the victor cherry blossom that's another way of saying this.

01:03:11.53
Adz
Oh.

01:03:21.35
Adz
Ah, give me the cherry blossom. Yeah, you've got there was there was I'm I'm like I'm trying to figure it not not time will tell on that one. That's it.

01:03:21.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, so finally backed you into a corner.

01:03:31.95
youcantcompthis
Having Andrew Gaze into the future. Yeah, now this next one is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard so we don't need to talk about this very long.

01:03:36.93
Adz
But Luke will Luke Longley

01:03:46.28
youcantcompthis
Was a story that emerged about someone sending cards to a best western hotel where they got dropped off in the porch. The card parcel value was $2000000 which now they've somehow magically disappeared so I want you to give me a fake scenario.

01:03:59.72
Adz
Magically only there's any magic involved in it really.

01:04:06.90
youcantcompthis
Where there is a logically good reason why you would send $2000000 worth of cards to a best western hotel. Go.

01:04:18.22
Adz
if if I can afford to buy $2000000 worth of cards I'm probably not concerned if my wife finds out if I'm married but do you know what? I mean like. I don't know did I buy it with laundered money. Is it. There's why would you do that.

01:04:40.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's just the stupidest thing I've heard in such a long time. It's just like.

01:04:46.86
Adz
I Like I feel like there's the the only rational justification is some kind of criminal activity and that the the the ramifications of them coming to your address.

01:04:56.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:05:06.34
Adz
Ah, that much worse. But no, um, maybe ah like on it. Yeah yeah, it's.

01:05:07.11
youcantcompthis
I think if you've got $2000000 worth of cards aren't you hand-de deliververing those like how much is a plane ticket a thousand bucks each way something like that you know and they're not even signature on delivery like it's just it's the stupid I can't believe it.

01:05:26.27
Adz
Do you know what would be more stupid if they were set in a plain white um envelope probably were probably yellow envelope yellow envelope with a namescap. No bubble wrap.

01:05:26.34
youcantcompthis
I'm going to leave it at that they probably were in a plane more envelope they weren't even in a box. Yeah, just like wrapped up with paper. Yeah no bubble wrap just like yeah, not even they didn't even take to the post office just put stamps on it and like chucks it into the box. You know like.

01:05:41.28
Adz
It was like a 9 pocket page. It was just filled with cards. And yeah, yeah.

01:05:44.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, absolutely all right last one then we're goingnna tie this off so this is a follow 1 from last week where Matthew Hull called yanis the new kd so he dmed me so just bear with me. Well I try and read this out. So Janis is a new kda except he hasn't left the club. He started with and probably won't. Unless a team like Chicago Memphis wises up and spend big on a veteran tallll reason he is like Kd. He has 1 chip he brings plays to human they fail Ka D has done that with every team bar golden state warriorrs if I'm even more precise yanis is the same old lucre hype train noise. Look at me all centered on them but get a ring and maybe 1 Mvp or 2 nothing else I sound like Adam Amy regulate the yarnases but seriously golden state came close to being a really dynasty the only dynasty to ever do it right? have been teams that have stars? Yes, but the team around them. Complement and work to each other's strengths Boston the greatest of all time with Bill Russell Lakers Jerry West Magic I think that's where say Kareem bulls Jordan Pippin Rodman etc Kobe Paul Shack for the lakers we have Katie lebron Luca Curry I hate lumping curry in with them.

01:06:55.10
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:01.42
youcantcompthis
All the next great white hope but none of them except curry a little admit like Jordan they're never as great as they were without the team around them hence why I think yanis is becoming the next Kd joker wins another ring we're in talks of him being successful and vanilla as Tim Duncan and we know how great he was so. Matthew thank you so much for your contribution and that um definitely gives us some clarity about where your feelings are on this matter and also some some very good comedy for that space too. So I think maybe the best.

01:07:21.93
Adz
Wow.

01:07:36.14
youcantcompthis
Thing to do I'm not going to analyze that I I'm pretty much just going to leave that as it is I don't think anything else needs to be said about it. The only thing I can say about this is that the xbox coach Mike Boenhauser has just been hired in phoenix to iron out Kd so.

01:07:43.30
Adz
Um.

01:07:56.12
youcantcompthis
Is is that is that a good sign or a bad sign. What would what would Matthew say about this? Yeah yeah.

01:07:57.91
Adz
Conspiracy theories. Yeah yeah, maybe maybe deep. Well maybe he's the new yarnis could be the other way just get a complete flip it ka d's the new yarnis not yarni being the new Kd can we in a next level this stuff. Um, it's ah it's a very good point. All these all these dynastic level teams had some very solid pieces around them like you look at the bulls with their they the 2 3 pets. Yeah, they had Jordan and Pippen but they they rebuilt. With solid pieces I know the the first one was like Horace grant the second with yeah they came back rebuilt stronger and they retooled every year. It wasn't about the core that was always there. It was about the supporting caste. I mean you're right in the shack and Kobe um that that lake is 3 pee. It's the same thing had shack and Kobe and dfish but they added pieces and like big shot. Bob you you've you've got big pieces further along. Lakers did it again with power. You're right? but without Lamar Odom Bynum and the warriors kd was part of that retooling like when the when the warriors were trying to find another way to win. They added Kd.

01:09:30.20
Adz
To add firepower. Add a dimension. So.

01:09:30.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that I mean that was a very unique situation with cap spiking that allowed him to go there like that was like that's never happened before.

01:09:38.65
Adz
Yeah, yeah, and I mean we joked about it last week saying that he was going to they were gonna good. Do the swap and Chris Paul will go to Phoenix and Katie I'll come back to win again in in um golden say but I think it's it's a really, it's a really valid point.

01:09:44.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:09:52.95
Adz
A superstar player is only as good as their supporting cast. You have to have a very solid foundation and the guy in order to be super successful.

01:10:01.66
youcantcompthis
The thing that I don't think ianus gets enough criticism for us. He's coach killing like he now literally has blood on his hands. So when it comes to coaches and I think actually for me The irony is is that before he got fired.

01:10:10.62
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:21.59
youcantcompthis
Thought Adrian Griffin was doing a good job and now he's stuck with Doc who could literally just be cashing yeah and could be literally just cashing in his pension at this stage just you know topping up his super for the next couple of years like um and the you know the rap on doc is that he.

01:10:28.59
Adz
That's called karma.

01:10:36.20
Adz
Yeah.

01:10:40.33
youcantcompthis
Just plays golf every day and he's not doing a lot of preparation and how long is that going to last until Yanas blows his top and you know demands him to be fired and then who are they going to hire then you know I don't know anyway.

01:10:42.54
Adz
Yeah.

01:10:51.27
Adz
But at what point does does as Yanas just get traded or go. Yeah.

01:10:55.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah, all right final thoughts. What do you say.

01:11:01.68
Adz
Um I agree with a lot of what Matthew said regulate regulate the yarnesses. That's it just called regulators.

01:11:07.65
youcantcompthis
Okay, well maybe you should do a ah podcast spinoff with Matthew Hull

01:11:18.77
youcantcompthis
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01:11:35.70
Adz
Yeah, so some a good good lot of variety tunes wise awesome until until next week we'll see you later.

01:11:38.60
youcantcompthis
Leave it at that. Yeah, that's right? Yeah, okay guys. Yeah.