Episode 144: Anthony Edwards, Gamestop, Kaboom vs Blank Slate, Aaron Gordon, Amen Thompson, James Worthy, Wemby

Episode 144:  Adam and Russell breakdown
- Card Holder upgrade and   Newton's rings 
- Anthony Edwards,  Blue rookie
- Gamestop now accepting cards

Kaboom vs blank slate, Kaboom vs blank #2, Kaboom vs blank Instagram
This weeks show is focused on the prospect remaining in this year's playoffs
Christian Braun, Aaron Gordon
Amen Thompson   vs Aaron Gordon   vs James worthy
The Indiana Pacers Jarace Walker;
The Boston Celtic's Jordan Walsh, Card ladder, 
Knicks: Miles McBride,
Derrick jones Jnr and Pj Washington, 
Thunders Cason wallace
Hawks get number one    Fake trades competition, Russell's fake trade
Wemby monopoly

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Transcript

00:09.18
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 144 of the you can't comp this and Nba trading card podcast. We're your host Adam Amy and Russell Gibson back for another week and we are in the middle of the playoffs.

00:23.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah, good man I'm really good hope everyone at home also is well. They've had a really lovely week and the show is packed again. Man Yeah, it's just everything's going on. So.

00:26.41
Adz
Russell how are you.

00:34.85
Adz
It happens this time here. It's you yeah look there's lots happening. We can pretty much pick out point and just start wherever where would you like to begin no tilly darling.

00:41.31
youcantcompthis
Let's just jump straight into it. No need to dilly dally look I think we should start with card Ladder This is kind of big news. They are the current kings of the jungle and it comes to grading. So.

00:51.74
Adz
Cool.

00:57.35
Adz
They are.

00:59.28
youcantcompthis
When you get an announcement like this. It's always good to hear so I think in a 1 line summary. What they've done is they've redesigned their cases. The key points are that aesthetically they look exactly the same but they've improved the edges. The.

01:06.95
Adz
Yeah.

01:13.90
Adz
Yep.

01:18.98
youcantcompthis
Features of the of the casing to make it better for us consumers So ultra-res Resistant Heat Humidity Water Uv light. It's also claiming Scuffs Micro scratches fumbled handoffs the works I'm very ah, not convinced.

01:25.86
Adz
Um.

01:38.35
youcantcompthis
About the last bits but that's fine I'll roll with it. No problems 20% heavier which I don't know is that a good thing is that a bad thing I suppose that means it's a sturdier part now this next bit is some hardcore physics and you know we're all about the details and the physics and the hardcore details on this show. So.

01:38.40
Adz
Skeptical skeptical.

01:49.98
Adz
Um, yeah.

01:57.22
Adz
Yes, oh very much so right we I'm armchair scholars I believe is the the term.

01:58.36
youcantcompthis
We're both scholars aren't we Adam absolutely no movement. No miler no sleeves no unwanted illusions like Newton's ring so add the next thing in the sheet. Is a link to Newton's rings and this is a whole thing about basically people complaining about light reflecting through it and it's basically where the card is pressed up against sometimes they're put into a plastic pocket and then into the psa slab.

02:33.40
Adz
E e.

02:34.57
youcantcompthis
And basically the card pushing up against that and it's not actually moisture in there and then people have gone into these huge deep dives about the you know the different reasons for it happening and then it got to the point where actually psa came out and they wrote their own article explaining this whole. Newton's rings scenario as it plays out so not only have they addressed people's concerns about it. You know with an article and we can put this onto the websites. Everyone kind of have a bit of a read of it.

02:55.93
Adz
Wow. Okay.

03:08.98
Adz
Yeah, it's ah it's a bit of a rate.

03:09.63
youcantcompthis
They've actually redesigned their slabs to stop this from happening so look I think in terms of listening to a consumer and taking their feedback. You know this is top notch. This is a plus but at the same time. It's not something that actually happens a lot. You won't see that many slabs with Newton's rings on it's not every slab that comes back like that but still.

03:19.50
Adz
This is pretty yeah.

03:29.15
youcantcompthis
This is for the hardcore nerds. So guys out there who have a physics degree and can understand this I Hope you enjoy the read.

03:29.38
Adz
Yep.

03:38.11
Adz
That's it if you want to explain a little bit more about theories on Newton's rings yeah definitely right? write it right? to us. Let's let it talk about it you you know the like the last slide has their little t's and c's on their it's for standard sports cards. Only.

03:40.55
youcantcompthis
So give us a.

03:51.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

03:55.50
Adz
2.5 by 3 point 5 by point four of an inch with a 40 point max thickness. So any cart above 40 point won't be in the new and improved encapsulation is that the method.

03:59.50
youcantcompthis
So sure. Sure.

04:11.90
youcantcompthis
I Suspect for this though is that it'll be just for now and they'll roll them out and in future for everything else? Yeah yeah.

04:14.00
Adz
Using it. The plan is to yeah of course of course of course, but that's this is the the the the pre they're debuting with with this size. Um yeah, pretty cool start to the to the week

04:29.12
youcantcompthis
All right? Anthony Edwards we we hit on Anthony Edwards pretty early last week in the show. But I think considering the state of the market and what's happening.

04:33.69
Adz
That guy.

04:45.35
youcantcompthis
It's not too much of a push to talk about Anthony Edwards again so

04:46.49
Adz
It it was I was gonna say that it's it did take off like a rocket ship has the rocket ship landed I don't think so but a mate it may be a little bit more ah in our in earth's orbit this week

05:00.79
youcantcompthis
That's right.

05:15.72
youcantcompthis
Ah, so that's Anthony Edwards talking to the reporters last week telling them that I'll see you for game 7 so we've been talking about this guy his swagger his trash talk that is an old timer line and obviously that's been censored for.

05:28.53
Adz
Has yeah.

05:31.65
youcantcompthis
For television and of course our kid friendly podcast. But what a 1 ne-liner

05:38.86
Adz
Ah, ah, he's gonna see us all for game 7 thank goodness he is. Yeah yeah.

05:41.33
youcantcompthis
So he played amazing in game six and he literally just took that game by the scruff of the throat and he just owned it which is very dare I say it Jordan esque which is something you've been touching on for a little bit.

05:56.15
Adz
That is he's um, yeah Mr. Edwards has has been doing doing some some very interesting, very interesting things.

06:03.40
youcantcompthis
As we slide in from trash talk and on game playing. We can look at his PS a 10 card sales last week the phrase that we used was exponentially straight to the moon or you know rocket ship into the sky and this week we've seen actually almost the complete opposite. So.

06:15.97
Adz
Yeah.

06:22.40
youcantcompthis
As this straight line has gone up. It's a straight line that's come down so last week we were talking about sales in the one thousand six hundred Mark the last sale now is 1100 so basically in a week. It's dropped down about $500 which I've got to tell you that was a little bit surprising for me.

06:30.21
Adz
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06:41.48
youcantcompthis
My general feeling was yes, it's going to come down but did I expect it to turn around. You know that quickly. Yeah, talk to me? yeah.

06:48.78
Adz
So I've got the one month up and I'll I'll share that with the with those playing at home because I think it's very ah, it tells a story so we we look at the the trend and it back in.

06:58.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so.

07:06.32
Adz
Like Mid -april it was trading at six hundred bucks great so we get to the third fourth of may and it's still under a thousand and then as this sort of epic Anthony Edwards performance as the performance has started rolling.

07:08.29
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah.

07:25.15
Adz
It did peak at at I think it was seventeen fifty seventy fifty eight was the was the high point on may ninth since then you'll notice after the games the last 3 or 4 days it's been it has been steady now I admit that the reason it's probably dropped is because. The timwars did take games 1 and 2 on Denver's floor and then nikcola Yurkitch reminded the league. Why he has 3 mvps and took games 3 and 4 on minnesota's floor. So the fact that we are at a game 7 shows that the price.

07:45.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure. Yeah.

08:03.74
Adz
Probably isn't going to go back down to that six hundred mark and that 11 to 1200 is probably where is a good landing spot because I think it's stabilized this week

08:10.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so I do agree with you to a point that you know the real-time play does affect values. But I think in such a short span of time like that and particularly when you're listing cards with a 3 to 4 day window for auction. Maybe actually up to a seven day window for auction, you might not be able to exactly exactly capture it where you know you wanted it. So what I suspect has happened is and you can see here lots and lots and lots of sales as we're going on the way up and on the way down you can sort of see the sales dropping off.

08:29.11
Adz
Or Gaga point. Oh.

08:45.50
Adz
Yeah.

08:46.57
youcantcompthis
So I wonder if there's just more people at that point selling than buying and that's where it's coming down and the other thing too. Yeah and and I wonder a little bit too is where and what we spoke about last week you know I'm not professing to be a rocket science and.

08:54.89
Adz
Market saturation. Yeah.

09:04.92
youcantcompthis
Rocket scientists in this space or even understanding Newton's rings but at some point you go look this is I bought this for three hundred bucks it's now one thousand like I'm very happy to flip this out right? And then if you're lucky enough to get oneix for it then you've just pulled off a Joshua fruger and you know you've done a good job. So.

09:06.59
Adz
Um.

09:13.99
Adz
Get it? Yep, get it sold.

09:20.93
Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's true. It is I do think I do think there's been a bit of a a hype train mentality and but we're're. We're definitely seeing sort of ah a market correction recently and and.

09:24.75
youcantcompthis
I've.

09:31.40
youcantcompthis
Ah, for sure. Yeah, yeah.

09:37.58
Adz
I Don't think it's it's going to be. It's not plummeting because of um because of the performances I actually think it. Yeah, you're right? It's yeah.

09:41.40
youcantcompthis
I think this is what you should expect to see because sales in my mind is too high so this is starting to sort out my gut feeling this is going to go back to 60500 ad the population on this. Yeah, the the population is this is not something that's rare.

09:49.83
Adz
Um, yeah, you really.

09:59.98
youcantcompthis
It's something that you'll be able to pick up every day of the week and on Sundays do you know what amend I don't think it's a problem I I just think that it means that you can buy this card anytime you want and.

10:00.12
Adz
So so without population problem and and and it's one it's 1 thing that I'm always on board with here. Well.

10:16.95
Adz
Yeah, okay, let's because we we all know who the biggest offenders are with regards to population are.

10:17.35
youcantcompthis
I Just don't see that you need to pay that much for it. Yeah.

10:29.90
youcantcompthis
It's too early to start cursing the boy's name this early in the show ad sure you were sure you were.

10:33.21
Adz
I was gonna also have a crack at zion I was I was looking ah what I was looking up Luca Fit I'm gonna look up zion because you're right with zions I dad.

10:42.47
youcantcompthis
Luca deserves nothing but praise this week I'm gonna like hold you to account on this one? yeah.

10:47.31
Adz
That that's fine that's fine I've got nothing but but positive things I think by being super positive I can jinx him to losing the western conference finals. Um Zion Williamson population similar right? 17 PSA 10 who else jamaan.

11:08.70
Adz
I don't really have a point I'm just trying to see gauge. What what? What to higher population is and I think Jamar ans very similar to to Zion if not a bit lower. So yeah, all right I will pick on Luca um.

11:23.34
youcantcompthis
That's why sure highlight discuss.

11:25.98
Adz
Not pick on Luka we just you we're just we're just data checking this is gonna be yeah, this is a quick comparison right? Silver psa 10 there's 5 is more than 500 more the populations 2290 something Twenty Two ninety five

11:35.26
youcantcompthis
Sure which is not that surprising considering he's a little bit older and a bit more popular in the card Hobby space. Yeah.

11:45.94
Adz
Yeah, yeah, over three thousand total gems if we're going to go back to the the pop report with it global yeah, the the global. Yeah.

11:50.52
youcantcompthis
You can cite that but I'm not ready for that to be gospel in my head I still haven't ratified all that out much. Love Ryan yeah.

12:01.35
Adz
So the total gem report is 1800 so we're we're still 1200 short of the lucapot i'm.

12:03.74
youcantcompthis
So where are you going with that though like why does that does that make you feel good. Does it make you feel bad. You know what's your thoughts.

12:10.18
Adz
I well Lucas sort of come down and settled at that 12 to 1300 mark and his pop count is higher. So what I'm what I'm saying is I don't think Anthony I think Anthony Edwards should be in the same discussion.

12:14.95
youcantcompthis
Sure yeah.

12:28.40
Adz
Skill wise and elite player wise as Luka dondage like I think that what he's doing at the moment is justifying like his level of play. He's he's elevating to superstar level. So I think maybe that superstar price.

12:28.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

12:35.00
youcantcompthis
Yeah, cool. So I'm saying I'm saying this is gonna come down to five six hundred dollars and that's probably where it will settle whereas you're in your head you're like actually you could see this coming to around that sort of Thousand Dollar Mark hanging around that sort of Luca Mark yeah cool yeah okay

12:49.13
Adz
That yeah that thousand to 1200 might be. It's yeah yeah, that would that that was the that was the the experiment wasn't a a ticket luca not yet I'm holding that one for later.

12:54.98
youcantcompthis
No worries. Not totally fine. Another one I found of Edwards which to be honest I like this more than anything that we've spoken about so far is the blue number to one nine Nine psa ten that last sold for 7800.

13:12.14
Adz
Oh.

13:16.00
youcantcompthis
You know in terms of obviously the grading color match and then also the scarcity this ticks a lot of boxes for me obviously price point makes this a lot more difficult but I think in terms of you know Collectibility something that you just put into your safe and put away forever like this is the type of card that.

13:22.38
Adz
O O ah.

13:33.62
youcantcompthis
Has got that written all over it for me. So yeah, talk to me.

13:37.45
Adz
So of a question about the color match now because I'm gonna be is the green is have you seen the Tim the timber wolves lime green thing is the green prism ah is the green prism a color match that lime or.

13:42.89
youcantcompthis
I Love that I've actually got a I've got a wolve's t-shirt with that bright lime green lettering on it I Love it. Yeah so I'm a total tragic for that I don't There is a fast break lime green. But there's the.

13:54.17
Adz
I Mean the Green's not the same on the on the on the prism. Oh oh cool that.

14:00.85
youcantcompthis
Prism green that you're talking about from retail. No, that's not a color match but the fast break lime Green I'll buy that I'll accept that. Do you know what in select there's that horrible Ultraviolet Lime green that is a genuine color match Now we're talking That's a chase.

14:16.75
Adz
That would be yeah that would be a chase for it. Yeah I like that I like that we're looking for it. We're looking for it.

14:19.30
youcantcompthis
I'm putting that into the run sheet. Yeah, okay, yeah, all right? Let's go. Let's let's go to a break because we are trying to break things up a little bit differently this week so we can. Facilitate the radio show which is a perfect time to thread in centralcotradio.com. Please check them out. We are on 10 am on Thursdays we are also on Tuesday nights too.

14:46.70
Adz
Um, yes, nice.

14:51.81
youcantcompthis
11 p m to one am we're trying to get the us market in that we play songs. We have the radio show and then if you like some of the other content you know, hang around and see what else is going on in central coast radio.

15:03.67
Adz
Yeah, it's a lovely little station and really happy to be on board with Central Coast radio.

15:06.84
youcantcompthis
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16:00.90
Adz
Still Bronze edition I Want some.

16:01.60
youcantcompthis
He okay, we're back. Thank you so much for coming back. We hope you enjoyed the break Adam should we talk about gametop.

16:15.38
Adz
Yes, well well if you don't want to go to your friendly local trading card store. Apparently now you can go to your local game stop if you're over in the states and they're accepting trade-ins.

16:31.28
youcantcompthis
So I'm trying to think of the Australian equivalent of this I think probably the easiest one to say is yeah so the equivalent is that Eb games are now accepting cards for trade and for cash now. The really interesting thing about it is not all of the shops.

16:39.84
Adz
Aba a B games.

16:45.89
Adz
Imagine that.

16:50.66
youcantcompthis
Are accepting trades and then people on Instagram have been going off on this a little bit. So basically the deal is you go in. You don't negotiate with somebody. They take the card that they have to be psa graded and then there's.

16:52.30
Adz
Okay.

17:03.46
Adz
E.

17:08.39
youcantcompthis
Ah, pricing Index in their computer system and it says we will offer you this many dollars for this card or this much trade in for this card and then you have to you have to then decide I will take it or I will not take the deal. Basically that's that's it. So there's no one.

17:15.48
Adz
Okay.

17:25.56
youcantcompthis
Standing at the desk you know, checking comps negotiating with you. It's literally you versus the database would you be interested in something like that.

17:32.90
Adz
Wow If you.

17:39.83
Adz
It depends what I'm selling I'm probably not taking my Kobe's down like my Kobe rookies down to to offload you know I mean there's a comment actually in the instant in the in the I g posts here that where are we.

17:45.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

17:55.70
youcantcompthis
There's heaps of stories online about this so you basically just need to go on and just you know, find something a reader and look you'll find different sources to what I've just said I'm sure that there'll be someone that said the the total opposite What I've just found but.

17:58.92
Adz
Yeah, like yeah one oh for sure they though like there was a manager of a store that was basically oh a area manager that was like the the max they can offer you is $500 because of certain like controls. They have.

18:14.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so.

18:18.10
Adz
So they can only offer you a certain amount of money and they'll be. It's very rigid so I wouldn't be expecting to take a $200 card into and we'll use the eb example like into my local Eb and expecting to get full value or even half value there'd be. There'll be a formula of sorts and.

18:19.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so yeah.

18:35.55
Adz
The person the the member of staff would have to comply with whatever policy they have like website says X yeah.

18:38.20
youcantcompthis
Oh yeah, it's literally just you know in a spreadsheet I like this for the fact that in the back of your mind. It's always nice to know that your cards have value and you can trade them in for you know, cash or something else. So you know I like this a lot I suppose where I'm.

18:50.81
Adz
Oh.

18:57.33
youcantcompthis
Wondering where this is going to end up does that mean they're trying to get more into the card space does that mean in the future they'll be doing deals with fanatics and they'll be doing distribution through their stores like I'm just trying to think of what the you know the angle is sort of outside of yeah.

19:01.75
Adz
Yeah, probably.

19:10.36
Adz
Sure Surely There's some goings on with with our friends at at fanatics here.

19:16.46
youcantcompthis
And I don't want to sound like a pessimist about all this but it just seems to me at the moment. There's a lot of angling and sort of behind the scenes stuff where everyone wants to get into bed with fanatics and just see you know where it takes them. So anyway I think that's the we don't need to talk too much more about that.

19:30.26
Adz
No, no, it's it's it's interesting me I'm looking forward to the day that Eb is accepting it because I'm curious to know what would happen.

19:35.21
youcantcompthis
So this next one actually was born out of a chat room that I'm in so this is 100% credit to Zebul and Campbell so zeb thank you so much for letting us share this because the response we've had has been fantastic. So. Very very simple question. Do you want a kaboom or do you want a blank slate and I didn't choose this year's blank slate being the black one because I know a lot of people aren't that fond of it. So I I chose the classic blank slate I chose this year's blank slate because actually. Don't mind it and for the example that I use it was to anthony edwards card so it wasn't about play versus player. You know one player in a kaboom one in a blanket was like I tried to make that as clear as I could and I thought considering how hot anthony edwards is at the moment I thought that was also very appropriate.

20:17.32
Adz
Um.

20:25.82
Adz
Yeah. Um, yeah.

20:32.10
youcantcompthis
I'm not going to go through and count all of the votes and say blank got this many votes and kaboom's got this but kaboom won by an absolute country mile which I wasn't really too sure I thought Kabom was going to win but at the same time.

20:40.71
Adz
A bit at quite a bit.

20:51.23
youcantcompthis
Was definitely a chance that the blanks would come through. It does just solidify my belief about the long-term value of kabooms and how they are the modern Pmg and and probably this is just you know solidified that but there is some definitely interesting comments I Thought what we could do at is.

20:53.77
Adz
E.

21:01.56
Adz
It's true.

21:10.44
youcantcompthis
Go through some of the comments and read those through.

21:12.30
Adz
Yeah, yeah, like we've got comments. Yeah, there's from from where are we this on our group.

21:18.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

21:23.44
Adz
Yeah, let's read. There's a lot of 1 one liners or 1 word is but.

21:29.23
youcantcompthis
Some people are put in a bit of time and thought into it. so so I'll do Instagram and you do Facebook about that so Swat team cards blank slate love the clean look kabooms are too busy for me. Yeah, and I think that.

21:35.89
Adz
Agreed let's let's go through the the comments that ah I've got some all right.

21:47.51
Adz
Yep.

21:48.48
youcantcompthis
Is very much probably where the line is drawn and actually that summarizes it so beautifully doesn't it. Some people just find them too busy whereas I think on the other hand, the thing that people love about the kabooms is that busyness that explosiveness that in your face. So yeah.

21:54.83
Adz
Yeah, um, yep.

22:00.96
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. That's what it is. That's well yeah, you've hit it in one I've got timothy price on on the on our Facebook group I personally go with the gaboom while I appreciate the rarity of the slate. Ah, it's still for it's still from a retail product I think the hobby exclusive could boom will be better in the long run.

22:22.73
youcantcompthis
Do you think that matters though. Yeah because so my push.

22:26.93
Adz
What where it's from is that is that is that is that a market cap like a vat a rarity thing though.

22:34.91
youcantcompthis
I Think that's true to an extent. But I think they've printed a lot of I think there's a lot more case hit kabooms than we probably realize and I think the next couple of years. That's really going to show in the pop reports in terms of psa.

22:43.61
Adz
Me.

22:51.30
youcantcompthis
Where I would definitely push back on that is that actually a case of blasters if you're paying retail is probably about the same price of a case of Kabom so you know what I mean like they're selling for three hundred apiece

22:58.44
Adz
Yeah.

23:07.25
Adz
Um, for sure for sure.

23:10.53
youcantcompthis
Ah know my numbers are a bit out here. No so crown is crown is still more expensive but it's not like you're comparing like true, a true retail product like the price on those court Kings blastes are quite expensive. You know? yeah.

23:15.51
Adz
Ah, yeah, yeah, true true quite quite Xy you're right? You've got a very very valid point. Um I do have I do have a ah short one that I will read out though because I feel like Andrew Dean longtime listener of the show was trying to do his best Russell impression here. Kaboom all day. Delicious.

23:29.85
youcantcompthis
Shipment. Yeah.

23:38.68
youcantcompthis
Ah, delicious. Yeah.

23:43.50
Adz
We got another Instagram one there is there. Any.

23:44.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so actually this one I wanted to read through so this is from Garth Kingy I love this topic because it says a lot about what type of collector you are for me personally slate is a bit too basic as a collector I remember back in the 90 s my favorite inserts were the block party and the fireballs.

23:50.30
Adz
Um, yeah.

24:02.76
youcantcompthis
I love how the kabooms just pop with a mix of different colors and effects. So yeah, that's definitely great. Cyril q I've owned both slates and kabooms I've just had a personal liking to shiny things I guess favorites are from 20 to 22 and look. Maybe at the end of the day too. That's just what we like we like big shiny cards and you know big shiny cars something like this right.

24:26.78
Adz
Yeah, this is true. This is this is true right? What have I got I've got ah well scottie James has said Blank Slate They're just so clean and he went on on the blank Slate train I'm a kaboo.

24:42.12
youcantcompthis
What's your personal favorite ad what do you go for? yeah.

24:46.71
Adz
Ah, do like Kaboom Ah Jeremy Grindle kabooms tick closest thing to the pmgs of now as you as you did state and then yeah jofu kabom hands down, they'll age better as people can't resist shiny cards. Ah.

24:50.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

25:01.44
youcantcompthis
And the thing too is do you own a kaboom or a blank slate. Yeah, what do you got? yeah right? That's right I wasn't too sure if you had a kobe or not.

25:11.24
Adz
Do I own one I have one a Kabom I've got a scottie pippen kabom I got that the last hobby hangout. Yeah I don't have a Kobe Kobe's on my my want list. Yeah, and I'd like to own a Kobe kaboom.

25:21.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

25:28.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

25:31.13
Adz
But yeah I picked up the Pippin the last hobby hangout we're at I've got a couple of comments where are we all comments from the the us sports cards Australia post have you brilliant brilliant.

25:42.37
youcantcompthis
I think I've run through those already. Yeah sorry man as did those only in one 25

25:49.92
Adz
All in 1 hit dear true tree. Got the busy.

25:54.82
youcantcompthis
All right.

25:55.77
Adz
Oh god are we still on the hunt for kabooms that are like value price less than two hundred bucks yeah have you got an update for that I haven't seen any no we haven't said have we seen any.

26:02.18
youcantcompthis
Hundred percent I do not what was I supposed to what was I supposed to update ah that was that you're referring to the post that someone was asking to buy a rooms for $200 oh god no

26:13.49
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, have we ever found any No still be.

26:19.60
youcantcompthis
Ah, not look not that I have been spendingning my life dedicated to this cause but no I have not no never in passing So I I was I was actually I was very slow to pick up that ball then what you were referring to.

26:26.28
Adz
Don't just in passing just in passing any karooms god for lesson to hundred bucks no

26:35.51
youcantcompthis
Alright I think what we should do is is just take this time to introduce the next part of the show and what I was hoping to do today and then I think we will have ah our second break and then we'll come back and we'll we'll get into it. So basically what we did last week was we looked at plays that were impacting.

26:45.70
Adz
Yeah, that sounds good.

26:53.93
youcantcompthis
Each series and so we did a whole series of play versus players. So this week I wanted to do basically the same exercise but from a different perspective so who are the plays that we didn't talk about last week that we probably should be talking about and so the prospects the plays who are sort of sitting under that.

26:56.48
Adz
Ah.

27:13.19
youcantcompthis
Sort of second layer who needs a little bit of hobby love still. So for example for Denver we're gonna do Christian Braun and we're gonna do Aaron Gordon I thought it

27:13.68
Adz
Okay.

27:21.44
Adz
Is it Braun or brown. It's pronoun pronoun. It's it looks like Braun but they say brown on the on the telecast anyway, they do that's possible too. Yeah, it's um.

27:29.92
youcantcompthis
Do they I always thought they say Brawen but with an American accent but I can't confess to you that my strong point is pronunciation of complex names ad so.

27:40.82
Adz
Now I'm curious.

27:47.51
Adz
Players names. That's all right I just hear things that I'm like this is interesting. Let's but could be almond could be almond could be amen could be omen who knows.

27:47.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah, now I'm getting stressed out ah about saying Amen Thompson is it Armon or Amen that's right like anyway, that's what we'll get to after our next break. We'll be right back.

29:32.34
youcantcompthis
I we are back. Thanks everyone for coming back Adam thank you for coming back I couldn't do this without you. You don't want to leave. Yeah.

29:42.68
Adz
Well since you told us what was happening. Ah I didn't want to run out I didn't want to leave I was I was yeah I'm tempted now to stick around and talk about players. We didn't talk about.

29:51.95
youcantcompthis
All righty. So really the genesis for this whole segment came from Christian Braun so when I was watching game five I thought braun played an amazing game I thought off the bench. He brought excellent defense. And I thought he brought enough scoring that you know he's really solidified his place in the rotation now and I think also too if you're being realistic about it if you're putting somebody on the opposition's best scorer and you trust that guy.

30:28.99
Adz
Um, yeah.

30:29.00
youcantcompthis
And that was the feeling that I got from that moment was that he had complete trust from the coaching staff he had trust from his teammates and he you know he played a pretty good game look I think anyone that's playing against Edwards isn't expected. Got there in excel. But I think they're supposed to just do a good job and I I think that's what he did and so.

30:33.40
Adz
M.

30:46.40
Adz
Yeah.

30:46.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah, really this is I was like look we need to talk about this dude. He's not on card ladder in terms of the indexes. So what we're just basically just gonna do is is go through a comp and just basically just froth over Christian Braw for a little bit I thought this one was really cool though. So select eye cut number to two forty nine it's a blue which is.

30:54.68
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:05.55
youcantcompthis
You know, nearly a color match but like low key color match this sold for for $35 piece a ten look to get a die cut PA 10 is actually is quite difficult. So for me this is a goodbye for 2 reasons. He's on a winning team. He's still a prospect.

31:08.20
Adz
Yeah, nice. That was yeah yep.

31:23.90
youcantcompthis
And it's a die cut that's PSA 10 so you know I'm really high on this. So really, really good purchase on this the next one I thought we could talk about is Aaron Gordon now I'm going to mix this in just bear with me for a second I thought we could do a 3 way player versus player Aaron Gordon

31:27.39
Adz
Oh.

31:41.00
Adz
Okay.

31:43.63
youcantcompthis
So he's our nuggets guy now I wanted to compare him to an ultramodern. So I'm doing Amen Thompson for the rockets and similar-ishsh type of game. Not exactly the same but ballpark and then I thought I'd do an old timer versatile.

31:52.15
Adz
Yep. Okay.

32:00.10
Adz
So it's like a past present future with the the new guy the ultra modern being the future. Yeah yeah.

32:03.50
youcantcompthis
Exactly yeah Amen Thompson Aaron Gordon and James worthy and they've all got very different populations. They've all got very different. You know, points in their career. So let's start with the youngest guy in this group. So it's Amen Thompson again has not been indexed in the. The latter on card ladder so we're just looking at sales here his raw silver prism is selling for $15 so we've spoken about this the last couple of weeks with even the likes of Paulo Ben Chery where the players you buy these cards were sent them to psa I think this is the perfect example of that.

32:26.47
Adz
Yep.

32:34.59
Adz
Um, yeah, yeah.

32:40.58
youcantcompthis
In terms of his other cards his red white and blue prism is selling for like seven bucks there's an optic there for a dollar fifty look. This guy is not selling for for big dollars at all. Probably the highest value card that we've got out of all of these is his.

32:54.21
Adz
Yep.

32:57.34
youcantcompthis
Prism autograph to 99 which sold for $92 um now this is really a side note on this and we've been speaking about this the last couple of weeks I actually feel there's a market change here in the sense that prism autographs is not something that's really chased heavily. But.

33:01.44
Adz
Dear.

33:15.16
Adz
Oh.

33:17.18
youcantcompthis
I think the aesthetics of them this year are actually a lot better and they are selling I don't think we saw sales like that the last couple of years absolutely absolutely yeah and so they should have.

33:24.65
Adz
Yeah, do we do We think it's something they've worked on like now they've they've improved the aesthetic that that people because because they are as a manufacturer though like do they care what the secondary market feels about it like the product sells because of the the Silver prism. So.

33:39.96
youcantcompthis
I Think it's very important that they produce products that are aesthetically pleasing and that people desire Do they care about the after sale part of it I don't think specifically I don't think that's their major thing but.

33:42.92
Adz
It's interesting that.

33:49.90
Adz
Definitely.

33:57.93
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:58.87
youcantcompthis
At the same time they know what's in play here people want to buy a sealed box and get some value out of it like they're not idiots to that hey last one actually let's let's do this last one then we'll move on so this is the the hoops card. Really interesting the way they've listed this is case hit ssp so that is not as I understand it. My understanding is it's one per box. So again, always buy and beware when it comes to ebay listings and that's sold for twenty two fifty

34:22.24
Adz
Yep.

34:27.34
Adz
Okay.

34:34.83
youcantcompthis
That's the same guy that drew the original kaboom we've touched on this a little bit so I'm just recapping here really quickly. But in terms of a chase said I like that so much for twenty two fifty you're getting the artworker the original kabom dude I'm all over that I think that's a beautiful purchase. So I think to summarize here.

34:37.49
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

34:51.51
Adz
Yeah, this is um so I'm just getting the photos up to show everybody that. Yeah.

34:56.48
youcantcompthis
Prospecting here on a very affordable prospect. That's where we're going with that now. The next guy is Aaron Gordon who is in card ladder thank you card ladder silver psa ten last sold for $120 usd

35:02.62
Adz
Um, yeah, he thanks card letter for for having Aaron Gordon appear

35:13.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you're gonna froth over this ad population on this is 37 so for me is is a buy holder a sell I love this is a purchase I think this is fantastic. Yeah.

35:24.52
Adz
I think I think this is a very this is be a very prudent sale I would be better. Yeah Aaron Gordon there's I don't know I wish he'd won. Like he in my mind. He's ah a dunk competition person and now of a sudden. He's this role player I think yeah I think you go down in history and and it might be worth the investment. It's not It's not It's not big money.

35:53.32
youcantcompthis
So maybe the better comp here is say Aaron Gordon to Robert Hoary where maybe I would probably say Aaron Gordon's a little bit better than Robert hoary. But you know Horie was the ultimate role player who just went on to win what 7 championships.

36:00.67
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

36:09.31
Adz
Big shot Bob yeah yeah, yeah, um, yeah, yeah.

36:11.80
youcantcompthis
I don't think he's going to get to 7 but he might get to 3 That's not unreasonable to say that I think he's an amazing role player and he's almost one step above a role player but not a star I don't know what you would even call that. But.

36:26.88
Adz
We'd all right? So where does Aaron Gordon Rank in this Denver unit and I mean they're pretty well constructed. He's the number 3 guy is a number 4 guy. He's the clear number 3 Okay okay.

36:31.22
youcantcompthis
He's he is their clear number 3 Yeah yeah, Mari is definitely number 2 I'm not even to say who's number 1 like 4 Absolutely yeah.

36:43.53
Adz
Porter Junior you reckon. Okay, okay, okay, earlier through the season I would have say said Michael Porter was the was above Gordon as far as the where they rank but you're right in the playoffs Aaron Gordon's really.

36:55.30
youcantcompthis
I think in terms of in team importance I think I would put porta junior in Gordon same sentence but I would say that Aaron Gordon in my mind is more valuable because he can rebound defend handle the ball a bit better whereas.

36:59.84
Adz
Stepped up and playing a very vital role.

37:07.43
Adz
Um.

37:10.30
Adz
Yeah.

37:13.12
youcantcompthis
The thing that makes porta ju so special is his shooting like I just feel like anytime you leave him open. That's just bottom of the net. There's not that many guys in the league I feel like that about all right then our last one is James worthy. So how this is going to play out in our true coms here is you know it's a little bit unknown but.

37:21.25
Adz
You've just yeah yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah.

37:32.37
youcantcompthis
Still, it's kind of a cool one I thought it's always good to look back at some old school dudes I love James worthy. But I'll also put him in the same sort of thing as Aaron Gordy you know, just a really good role player and you know he was a really good. You know number 2 or number 3 wherever you thought he was on that team. But yeah.

37:40.61
Adz
A grade agreed I Actually don't.

37:48.60
Adz
For sure. Yeah.

37:51.85
youcantcompthis
Base psa 101986 Fleer pop of 134 so you know it's still higher than what Aaron Gordon is but it's not outrageously higher.

38:01.69
Adz
It's very not outrageously. It's very popular set this 86 fle yeah Yeah and that last old ah may this year so

38:05.70
youcantcompthis
Two Thousand three hundred and ninety five us dollars the last sale on that.

38:16.74
youcantcompthis
Of all those 3 cards. Add what would you say is your most you would be looking to buy the most or you'd be looking to sell the most or you know what do you feel the strongest about on on on those 3 cards. Yeah yeah, okay.

38:17.22
Adz
There was one sold recently 3

38:30.41
Adz
What do I feel the strongest about I'd probably go the worthy because of my lakers affiliation. But um I do like I do like the Gordon at that at that price point. Yeah yeah, but I mean I appear say nine of that last sold for three hundred bucks so

38:36.58
youcantcompthis
Yeah, at that price me too. That's how I feel I'm like that looks like a pretty nice little buy. Yeah, okay.

38:47.91
Adz
The the James worthy so I'd probably even think about that's got a higher pop. Yeah I don't know the Aaron Gordon's probably where I'm at although oh no Thompson I think there's there's pros and cons for all of it obviously James worthy's career is set in stone Aaron Gordon's

38:53.49
youcantcompthis
Okay.

39:07.82
Adz
A lot of the way through his career and Thompson hasn't yet really shown us what he can do. So I guess ah prospecting one should take Thompson but James worthy if you if you want stability.

39:12.22
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

39:20.64
youcantcompthis
So this next one is for the paces and the paces fans and actually I'm I'm enjoying this one for myself my own sort of learning really because the general consensus on the pace is. I think from the commentators who are intelligent. So the Zack lows the Nba draftnet guys. You know, etc, etc is basically that you know they've had a pretty good run if they get to the next round of the playoffs. It's not so much that they're a fantastic team. They've had some really good injury luck.

39:38.54
Adz
Yeah.

39:49.20
Adz
Yeah.

39:54.42
youcantcompthis
And so where does the improvement come from this team now. Do they go out and take a big swing to get like another big player to come in or do they or do they keep playing the patient game. They're being playing and to sort of keep building up or is they actually they're going to be capped out between spicy P Tyrese halliburton.

40:00.84
Adz
Oh good question. Yeah.

40:13.36
youcantcompthis
And maybe a miles turner extension actually is all their money spent so the improvement has to come from within if that is the case. So last year they took Jarriss Walker at number 8 at number 8 you should expect the absolute bare minimum to be a rotation player if not a starter if not an old star. You know.

40:18.60
Adz
Is it already. Um.

40:28.42
Adz
Trick.

40:32.69
youcantcompthis
20 points for games. So I don't know a lot about this dude like I'm not going to lie to you I feel like I watched a reasonable amount of paces last year but he's not someone. That's you know, coming to the forefront of my mind you know, screaming out so in my head this is a deep prospect but I like this type of.

40:45.92
Adz
Yeah.

40:51.98
youcantcompthis
Good prospecting in that you know he's on a good team. He's coming from a high draft pick and let let's think about somebody else that came from this similar stock is Jonathan Kuminga right Jonathan Kuminga should have.

41:03.11
Adz
True true.

41:06.26
youcantcompthis
On any other team that wasn't the worries he would have been playing twice or 3 times the amount of minutes that he was playing in his first couple of years and now actually he's coming along quite nicely. So yeah.

41:13.80
Adz
Yep, very much. So yeah, this is true. This is true. The exposure.

41:18.10
youcantcompthis
Look I like this dude looking through his sales. It's also kind of exciting too so number to one nine nine which is the blue that sold for twenty six usd that is an absolute bargain particularly if this guy you know comes through and you know actually plays really well.

41:25.34
Adz
Okay.

41:33.71
Adz
Yep.

41:34.28
youcantcompthis
This is from select. So it's a little bit trickier to compound but at the same time. It's still here so number to 99 the pink ice that sold for fours 25 so you're sort of getting a bit of a gist here like this is old dirt cheap.

41:43.37
Adz
Okay, it's all dirt cheap. So it's it's deep prospecting if you want to give it. Yeah, this is where the value could be.

41:50.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but at the same time I feel like this is easy money's not the right word, but this is kind of like a smart play because you know high drop pick on a good team. You know it's gonna it's gonna come through choice rookie for one ninety Nine you know.

42:02.14
Adz
Yeah, yeah, okay.

42:08.34
youcantcompthis
So maybe okay, maybe this is the better question. Do you buy in on someone like this. So I've been buying Herb Jones because Herb Jones is kind of the same price point. Maybe Herb is a little bit more expensive at the moment but you know it's really the same type of thing you're hoping that he's going to get a few more minutes and be in the rotation a bit more. That's.

42:16.50
Adz
Fair, fair fair.

42:28.70
youcantcompthis
And a little bit of obviously improvement from his end. But yeah.

42:30.24
Adz
Yeah.

42:38.21
Adz
Um, no I think I think prospecting at that level is always a bit of fun like it. It's not too much of a risk. There's clearly potential there if there's success and it's even if the Moodle the needle moves a little bit.

42:42.26
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, yeah.

42:47.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

42:54.50
youcantcompthis
Did you say the noodle.

42:55.75
Adz
It's still the noodle I what I I started with noodle and then I said needle I'm sure I said needle isn't it. We look there a bit I know Anthony Anthony Edwards has been cooking.

43:01.52
youcantcompthis
Ah, this is not a cooking show Adam we could do food.

43:19.60
youcantcompthis
Alrighty let's do miles turner no one talks about miles. Turner.

43:23.56
Adz
Miles Turner I've no and I think it's it's it's one of those things where I I I think he's an acquired taste. Ah we we talk about big like bigs have to be dominant right? to be.

43:34.84
youcantcompthis
Yeah, oh yes.

43:38.63
Adz
Sort of and and miles turner just goes about his job and there's nothing wrong with that. But Hobby wise I Struggle What have you got for for our friend Miles turner.

43:46.60
youcantcompthis
Well just to add to what you just said then yeah, it's true but also Indiana doesn't get a lot of national media and I think people are watching the playoffs. They'll be seeing the game tomorrow.

43:54.13
Adz
Yeah.

44:02.50
Adz
Well tomorrow's good. Tomorrow's game is pretty isn't isn't this like the the 30 year decider from 9093 and 94 or was it ninety four ninety four yeah yeah yeah this is it.

44:07.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah, the Reggie Miller choke game absolutely

44:17.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so this is great exposure for Halliburton. It's great exposure for you know miles turner I think it's nothing but good news for their card value anyway, look I think the market agrees with what you're saying though with acquired taste. So.

44:18.63
Adz
And it's at Madison square garden and Reggie will be on the commentary team. This is gonna be great.

44:37.46
youcantcompthis
2015 miles turn up ruby wave number to three fifty p s a nine this is PSA 10 I like to that's sold for $52 so basically for for nothing for anything that's numbered psa ten you're expecting a much higher. You know.

44:38.67
Adz
Are ah.

44:43.38
Adz
Yep.

44:48.48
Adz
Okay, yeah. No.

44:57.35
youcantcompthis
Return on that a silver nine that's where I got confused with the 9 and 10 that's sold for twelve bucks so basically the market. Yeah, that's right if you're a pc guy. This is an absolute dream for you isn't it. But um I think.

45:02.28
Adz
Okay, so if you're a long time Indiana fan and you want to collect this team. You're not gonna struggle getting some mile turner stuff. Yeah I do I do find I do find that in the in the hobby people do collect their.

45:18.73
youcantcompthis
Show.

45:20.65
Adz
Players from an era or a team or do you know what? I mean like if if this Indiana team is the beginning of something bigger for the for the paces right? and you're a paces fan picking up a miles turner rookie card for this for your little display tribute.

45:26.57
youcantcompthis
You know.

45:37.82
Adz
To the 2024 23 twenty four paces is not going to be problematic. The heiburton might be but not definitely not the turner.

45:42.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, Yeah. All righty why don't we have a break and we'll come back and we'll do the celtics. Great.

45:55.20
Adz
Let's do it.

46:11.10
youcantcompthis
And we are back I'm feeling energized feeling refreshed. Let's bust into some celtics. So well, you have to be for this sec segment Adam so this is actually from one of our listeners at home.

46:23.32
Adz
Can't say I'm excited to talk about the celtics. But yeah, all right. We may. Ah.

46:29.97
youcantcompthis
Matthew Hull so Matthew so much. Thank you so much for all of your your chatter and contributions to our to our group. We really appreciate it and he wanted to talk about Jordan Walsh so the game log on Jordan Walsh she's not is not pleasant. It's not really something that you want to look at to be honest and. To be perfectly honest with you the amount that he played this year is so little that to me the the data's almost insignificant. It's so hard to actually analyze and sort of gauge off this kid. So I've actually gone back to Nba draftnet who have written.

47:00.34
Adz
Yeah.

47:05.76
youcantcompthis
And amazing analysis of his strengths and weaknesses. They've given us the full breakdown. So some of his strengths are that he he's basically someone who can move around the floor really easily. He's got good range on his shot. He's a good leaper. And a relatively good defensive player who'll be versatile and I think we should sort of leave it at that. So the Nba comparison they've got is demai carroll and Ronaldo Balkman Renaldo Ballkman was a a play from the 80 s and 90 s for you guys who were you know born in the. Two thousand s or even 2010 s who might be listening to our show Google this guy because he was he used to shoot from some crazy distance and um, used to put buckets together really quickly. I do remember that guy look I got to be honest with you mate.

47:44.50
Adz
And yep.

48:01.29
youcantcompthis
I'm a little bit is Jordan Walsh who I want to be you know, buying into um, look I'm really not too sure I think the problem is with these guys particularly on these you know genuine championship level teams. Yeah, it's just so hard for them to become you know, roster plays and and rotation players.

48:16.41
Adz
Contenders. Yep. can I can I put a name forward that I that I would be that I that I may have raised before Derek White last sold.

48:27.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so okay, so can you hold that thought for 2 seconds I'll do two um coms for Jordan Walsh and then we'll yeah yeah, so ah red.

48:37.87
Adz
Ah, okay, so we are gonna look at wash. Ah there are sales I Thought you're gonna show me. There are no sales.

48:43.60
youcantcompthis
To two ninety Nine sold for $9 so we're talking basically like Juris wallet sorry Carlson Wallace price is here castle walls.

48:49.36
Adz
Yeah, yeah, what's his name. The guy from Indiana Juse Walker Yeah, it's a deep car.

48:55.56
youcantcompthis
Juse Walker is what we're it's a very similar sort of prices right? So and if I go even you know to do a comp between those two then I'm definitely going for Walker and I'm I'm not looking at walsh at all, you know so. Crown royale photo exclusive number to 17 on- card autograph for $53 you know? So we're talking again here all right, do your Derek white thing made I know you're busting to like to put love on this kid.

49:16.10
Adz
What? Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, Derek White last sold silver ps a 10 last office 75 us this is a guy that is not the number one not the number 2 not even the number 3 guy in Boston is the only one I'm going to talk about in Boston because he's a spur Tatum. It's Tatum or brown 1 and 2.

49:36.41
youcantcompthis
Okay, hang on a second sorry who's number 1 and who's number 2 First of all because that's not clear cut. okay okay yeah hey on with which one which one do you say? Okay, sure yeah and so number two is.

49:53.30
Adz
Tatum Brown and know number 3 is in Boston I think pursing well I'm telling you Al Horford's not the guy. Um.

49:55.48
youcantcompthis
Number 3

50:00.39
youcantcompthis
Because now Paul Zinus is out again.

50:07.99
youcantcompthis
So is it your is it your boy number 3 Yeah yeah, yeah.

50:11.40
Adz
Maybe Derek White is maybe maybe he is maybe he is well so at seventy five usd is he a buyer holder a sell.

50:19.75
youcantcompthis
I Don't like you still I'd like you know changing my mind about this guy.

50:29.58
youcantcompthis
Well no one cares about Derek white.

50:30.38
Adz
I like it cause he's in the spurs uniform I do I do I care deeply. No I don't I just think he's a product of the spur system. You should have ended up in not Boston um, he's underrated and I think he's ah a real reason that they are where they are and that $75 price tag is ah.

50:47.65
youcantcompthis
Ah.

50:50.80
youcantcompthis
So you can have one Derek white or two miles turner is there what you're telling me.

50:50.29
Adz
Well earned well earned Derek White derickk

50:56.30
Adz
Do you think more people know about Derek White or miles turner in the league.

51:01.31
youcantcompthis
Look I'm probably just being ignorant at this point but just to be annoying I'm going to take two miles turn is like I don't I I'm always to the point now we like I'm what I want to ban you talking about Derek why I don't want to talk about Derek White again like I'm so over this. But.

51:21.59
Adz
If if it if it makes you feel any better a card ladder says it's it's it's overvalued by 2% so they agree with you.

51:28.53
youcantcompthis
That's the first time that card value and I have ever agreed on something. Thank you card letter all right New York Knicks Miles Mcbride this is actually worth talking about. So this kid has been playing good basketball and.

51:47.41
youcantcompthis
I'm going to take this a step further I actually think that so his situation is obviously opportunistic with the injuries they've got on this roster but Jay Hart got injured at the at the start of game 6

52:04.66
Adz
Yeah.

52:05.88
youcantcompthis
And then they taped him up and he came back out and gritted it out. But what happens if he can't play so who's the guy that's going to play you know 40 minutes for the next game like is it going to be Mcbride.

52:16.24
Adz
Maybe got a he's got to play a full 48 that's the tibs way.

52:20.84
youcantcompthis
I That's right, The other thing is that with them training away quickly. My gut feeling was that they thought someone was going to emerge. So whether that was Goingnna be deep in chenzu or it was going to be.

52:34.53
Adz
He.

52:36.25
youcantcompthis
You know, heart or Mcbride or you know realistically it turned out to be Brunson really wasn't it that emerged on a crazy way but look I don't mind Mcbride actually I think he's a really interesting prospect in that he's right on the fringe of becoming you know a very good rotation player and.

52:39.72
Adz
New was Brunson then exploded. Yeah.

52:55.77
youcantcompthis
You know the other funny thing about him is too like he's kind of gettable for other teams and does a smart team come in and like target him and say look. We're going to make you our starting point guard or our 6 man like a melich monk type you know situation so optic.

53:02.59
Adz
Um, this offer frame. Yeah.

53:11.32
Adz
Yeah.

53:14.77
youcantcompthis
Contenders rookie autograph for seventeen fifty mosaic number to 85 p sa 10 $64 panini autograph sorry prism autograph psa 9 for 83

53:29.42
Adz
Okay.

53:32.91
youcantcompthis
Which is way higher than what I was so some of this stuff is actually going for more than probably what I was expecting.

53:39.21
Adz
Well this is the this is this is the difference between being a small market and a big market right? So if you scroll down 2021 twenty two pan any flawless rookie Patch Auto number to twenty five ah hundred and forty four ninety

53:40.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah for so.

53:47.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but that's peanuts like in the scheme of things like I would rather spend the extra $60 and pick up that flawless then take home that p a 9 prison. Autograph.

54:00.73
Adz
Would you take the number to 90 the number to 99 horizontal

54:04.77
youcantcompthis
Would the 25 for 45 that's delicious

54:08.74
Adz
Yeah, then you've got 51 for the number to 99 the national treasures now hundred and forty yeah hundred and forty five bucks. Yeah, but there's a lot of double figures prices here.

54:13.87
youcantcompthis
I think flawless number to 25 for 100 and like I can easily I can easily justify that man whoever picked it? Yeah yeah, but that that whoever purchased that congratulations to them. That's the perfect card just to put away.

54:29.60
Adz
The rpa. Yeah yeah.

54:33.22
youcantcompthis
And hope that Mcbride explodes and then you've 10 xed your money easy honestly, anyone else you want to talk about on the next? Yes, so tell me your tibito take.

54:40.25
Adz
Or red white and blue for a dollar fifty just tipto. No no, he's he's gonna he's gonna run those players into the ground. So if yeah, if he's the seventh eighth or ninth man on the roster.

54:50.83
youcantcompthis
Off.

54:56.57
Adz
Don't be prospecting on them because he won't play them. It's true but there but there is there's there's no deep cut guy on the on the Knicks roster because tibs won't play them.

54:58.60
youcantcompthis
That's like saying I'm going to drink coffee in the morning you know I mean like it.

55:06.00
youcantcompthis
My wife doesn't ask me did I drink coffee this morning. It's just an assumption. You know how is your coffee today darling how are those players knees tibs chalk.

55:14.18
Adz
So how so is this? How is is this how who wins game 7 who wins game 7 it's at Madison square garden this has been home team all the way does indiana beat New York

55:28.50
youcantcompthis
So my take this whole time has been the knicks are going to run out of steam.

55:34.25
Adz
The day after you said that the day at the paces blew them out by 40 points.

55:37.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and then the game after this came back so like I wasn't looking too pretty the day after that, but this pace the team is actually looking. Okay, yeah, and Halliburton has been very up and down so he just needs to have a good game and then the knicks need to run out of puff and everything will be fine.

55:45.70
Adz
Never let the truth get in the way of it. They are I think it.

55:57.66
youcantcompthis
Right? Dollas Mavericks Derek Jones Jr He has been probably my low key prospect out of this series that has intrigued me the most because I feel as though he's just emerged in these playoffs just as much as krie's. D has emerged ah Derek Jones Junior overall play for me has just probably been one of the most enjoyable things and so in terms of buying his cards again, you're you're not looking for a lot of cash here n t rookie autograph number to 99 sold for $15 fifty cents so

56:22.43
Adz
Oh.

56:34.62
Adz
Okay.

56:35.97
youcantcompthis
You know I think the the critics of what I'm about to say now is will say well he's old. There's no you know legs in this.. That's probably the ceiling of you know what? you're expected to go to and and look that's probably true but at the same time you know I Really like that as a purchase and I think there is a small amount of upside there. Yeah, do you want to do Pj Washington or is that a little bit is that too. Benign.

57:00.80
Adz
Yeah, yeah, that's all right? Pj Washington's actually had some some some activity on card ladder um pj washington now. Well he is from the era of we want to grade everything so the pop count on his p is silver PSA 10

57:06.33
youcantcompthis
Ah, cool, all right talk to me I've got a little bit of Pj Washington so that makes me happy.

57:17.15
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but he was a first round peak. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so I can't quite retire yet. Yeah.

57:18.14
Adz
Is 811 understandably it's from it's it's the z it's z on you? Yep, it's the z on you. That's what I mean everything got graded that you pop counts 811 last soul price thirty seven usd so he's seen a bit of a risk bit of a resurgence. He did peak. Ah. He six months he was up around the $50 mark earlier this month so yeah maybe

57:46.00
youcantcompthis
So I think for me. Yeah, if he goes up a bit more I'm probably happy to sell but at the same time I'm just gonna hold on for another twelve months and then see where he's at I'm sort of at that point now I'm like I'm no no real rush to sell this stuff to be honest, all righty this next stuff's just gonna be.

57:54.82
Adz
And see what happens.

58:01.85
Adz
Fair fair.

58:05.28
youcantcompthis
Pretty quick heating to be honest, so the whole Mavericks roster sorry the whole thunder roster is basically prospects so it's a little bit tricky. Yeah, but I think someone that we could talk about is case in Wallace just for the fact that he was getting a bit more burn particularly when.

58:14.10
Adz
Yeah, you can prospect on anybody really.

58:22.64
Adz
Oh.

58:25.23
youcantcompthis
Old mate Josh Giddey was shooting nun furs from the corners. But that's okay so the Mavericks we should probably just pay some some flowers to this. The Mavericks did eliminate the thunder.

58:32.36
Adz
It's all right? Kitdy you play better in the olympics we hope.

58:44.69
Adz
Yeah, they did. They did all right.

58:45.20
youcantcompthis
Today and there's nothing if you're a thunders fan you have got nothing to be upset about. Don't listen to all this nonsense that's going on in the media. Your team is literally the youngest team in the league and then you are the the best regular season team like that's not supposed to happen.

59:00.30
Adz
Yet yet.

59:02.48
youcantcompthis
And you've got so much draft equity coming in like you guys should be really happy and excited. So don't let anyone spoil your you know your moment and you played a great series. You just came into a yeah, you just came across a team that's a little bit more experience and let's be honest, they've got a really good number 1

59:10.72
Adz
They were up most of that game 7 they were they were.

59:21.40
youcantcompthis
The Mavericks have got the better number 2 than the thunders number 2 and maybe it's as simple as that you know so case and Wallace Silver Raw rookie sold for $8 yeah all right this next one for you. This is something that.

59:23.50
Adz
Sure Yeah, a great. Nice, nice. Nice I like that.

59:38.23
youcantcompthis
We did a couple last couple of weeks is the fake trades. So now this the whole thing behind this is what I was hoping people would do is they would write in their fake trades about the atlanta hawks and so the atlanta hawks have got the number 1 pick.

59:42.58
Adz
Ah yes I have some of those.

59:52.15
Adz
Okay.

59:58.30
youcantcompthis
The probability that they were going to get that was actually 3% so they've beaten all the odds to come through and get the number 1 pick. So what I was asking was is what should they do with this pick so Matthew Hull said they should trade it for yarnis David Ralph said keep the pick.

59:58.76
Adz
Yep.

01:00:16.86
youcantcompthis
Takesar trade capella keep on yacka a g tray j j murray and Kobe trade the rest for Malik Monk Paul George need some 3 d guys wings and trades. Um. Basically to cover up for trades defensive weaknesses and he doesn't mind vanderbilt Matthew Hull had another answer hawks trade this this is some crazy stuff I love this this crazy trades hawks trade trade number 1 to Lakers for bronze senior and Rui Hatiburra

01:00:41.79
Adz
Um, wow.

01:00:53.22
youcantcompthis
Now I put that into the trade machine. It doesn't work so you are going to win today's prize Matthew hull but I reluctantly give it to you. The Lakers Trade number 1 pick for three first round picks 2 second round picks and Kd to the Suns and again I don't know where all these picks are coming from but let's not let the. The truth get in the way of a good story Bronnie Jr gets picked by the bulls and Bronnie Sr is then traded again to the bulls with 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks and the next two drafts and the hawks get Levine and crusoe.

01:01:24.88
Adz
Ah.

01:01:28.77
youcantcompthis
All in all, the true winner is Jeff Wilson and Topps as cards h q mastered this all along truly the Jeff Wilson show in Atlanta so anyone that's listening live to this will hear me say Jeff Wilson but the podcast is going to be beeped out.

01:01:30.23
Adz
Ah.

01:01:44.92
youcantcompthis
I refuse to say Jeff Wilson on this podcast. Ah Maddie Hull that is amazing. So congratulations you do win the ah I know this wasn't a competition. Okay I thought I had ah some prize money up for this.

01:01:48.76
Adz
It's fair. It's fair Oh goodness. Congrats yeah.

01:02:04.39
youcantcompthis
That's fine Maddie I'll hook you out with some break credit on the on the break page. So I'll shoot I'll shoot you a Dm alrighty so my trade that actually does go into the trade machine Maddie and I hope you will like this ad I sort of did this for you to be honest. So.

01:02:07.96
Adz
Wow.

01:02:16.20
Adz
Yep, No oh. That of.

01:02:21.40
youcantcompthis
The Hawks have got a few picks they they lucked out on the number one so they trade the number one the trade exception they got for John collins clint capella and Johnre Hunter to the lakers and in return they get Lebron James

01:02:28.25
Adz
Yep.

01:02:35.42
Adz
Um, ah fire we go.

01:02:41.15
youcantcompthis
With their next draft pick which they got from the Sacramento Kings if I'm reading this properly. They select bronnie junior how's that for a fake trader. Yeah.

01:02:53.42
Adz
That the the hawks end up with Bronnie and Bronnie Junior and we get capella to go with what with Anthony Davis True true okay I'd take that.

01:02:59.10
youcantcompthis
And basically just give up cat but you get the number 1 pick 2

01:03:10.74
Adz
Ah, very much take that I like I like a ah lebron less lakers with some extra shit. Yeah yeah, yeah for sure for sure.

01:03:12.51
youcantcompthis
That's what I thought I thought that's still ridiculously crazy. But at the same time. It's not insane. Yeah, all right? What's your fake trader.

01:03:23.70
Adz
Right? So I came up with two I came up with one that was a bit outlandish and one that was very serious. So I think I'll discuss the outlandish one first. Um I have the phoenix sons trading Kevin Durant and Bradley beele to the Atlanta hawks.

01:03:28.14
youcantcompthis
Shop.

01:03:39.97
youcantcompthis
But you know.

01:03:43.00
Adz
In exchange for trey young clink capella bogd Dan Bogjoovic and Seddit Bay plus two first round. Ah 2 first roundrs one of course being the number 1 pick and a second roundr in 2025

01:03:47.57
youcantcompthis
Okay.

01:04:00.47
youcantcompthis
Okay, and did that go through the cat. The trade machine I actually thought Bradley beele was impossible to trade. But you've proven me wrong. Okay i.

01:04:04.10
Adz
It goes through the trade machine.

01:04:13.20
Adz
Um I did have to get rid of extra pieces. So.

01:04:18.60
Adz
So yes, that's why? um, ah, bokanovich and and sidiq bay were on the ah but it was a part of a sign and trade. But yes, the way the hawks get kd is if they take Bradley Beal as well and then the suns get rejuvenated with obviously trey young capella and some role players. So I don't know.

01:04:34.65
youcantcompthis
Okay, yeah.

01:04:38.21
Adz
And then they restock up on their trade pick their picks that is a bit crazy and I don't think I think Atlanta says no because I don't think KD's as enticing as he used to be um, the more serious trade that I thought might be considerable.

01:04:47.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:04:52.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

01:04:56.75
Adz
Is and once again tray young comes into the picture There's a so the Hawks trade their' trey young and their their first pick for Zion Williamson New Orleans is set ah first round pick from next season. And Dyson Daniels this also goes through the machine so they swap picks 24 25 basically zion ends up being a hawk trayun goes to the pellies.

01:05:16.33
youcantcompthis
Says.

01:05:31.28
youcantcompthis
Okay.

01:05:35.24
Adz
I Don't know if that makes the pelicans better I don't know if that makes the Hawks better.

01:05:41.93
youcantcompthis
Interesting. That's fun. 1

01:05:44.19
Adz
But it's like what kind of team would need to upgrade or would would have personnel that would that you know it's something they might want that that Atlanta might want and I think zion might be a piece and they have to get rid of 1 of their pieces. It's either got to be.

01:05:52.94
youcantcompthis
The Hawks have to do something now like they've had so much fortuitous luck. They have to either unload some of that bad salary. They've got or improve yeah on well something something has to happen because it's such a great opportunity all right.

01:06:03.85
Adz
Murray or young have to go one of the one of the point guards has to go? Yeah yeah, although it's not a great draft. So I know that's the problem drop.

01:06:12.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, but still to jump up the dropboard that high that's um, congrats to Hawks fans all right? We haven't said the words wembby tonight which I'm feeling a little bit disappointed about so I'm going to fix this melody.

01:06:20.86
Adz
Yeah, and.

01:06:25.19
Adz
Sure you fixed it. You just said it. Wembby.

01:06:30.79
youcantcompthis
Card ladder eye catching sale 1 of 1 monopoly card sold for 20875 bgs graded to an 8 now. I am going to say this is a very strong buy for the following reasons. It's a 1 of one It's graded to a reasonable level. But I'm going to put this into the category that even in the worst sets. There's 1 card that's worth purchasing and I'm going to make the argument.

01:06:51.20
Adz
That's a yeah, that's a very good point.

01:07:04.65
youcantcompthis
This is the 1 card that is going to be worth purchasing keeping in mind prism the true one of 1 so been selling for half a million dollars I I think in the context of that almost alone.

01:07:10.90
Adz
Ah.

01:07:16.61
Adz
Yeah, that's true.

01:07:24.26
youcantcompthis
I don't see this going down I think this will just slowly trickle up over time whereas those ones that have sold for half a million dollars to be honest with you I'd be very worried in 2 or 3 times they're worth 400 k or 350 k albit they're not going to be sold over like silver prism. So you might not ever know.

01:07:26.00
Adz
Oh.

01:07:39.44
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

01:07:43.15
youcantcompthis
What they're worth for another ten or twenty years but that's where I sort of yeah final thoughts for today's show at.

01:07:45.19
Adz
Not a bad looking card though. It's not a bad looking card.

01:07:58.83
Adz
I'm excited about the playoffs. The the conclusion of the playoffs I think we're we're we're at a point now where I think this this might this might be 1 of our last little prospecting things before we start talking about some big boys again like like some serious. What.

01:07:59.15
youcantcompthis
Um, yeah, that's right nuggets wolves tomorrow Car Miss. Yeah.

01:08:10.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we can go back to big voice next week

01:08:15.24
Adz
Well well, it's what's happening with these. We're at the and look I think my final thoughts are yes, you'll hear more about my thoughts on 1 Luka dontitch once we see where this journey ends because I've been saying it all along he needs to win to to increase his market value.

01:08:33.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:08:33.82
Adz
And today they they won they are now in the western conference finals. So Luca Luca is on his way to competing for a first ever championship. So we'll see what happens.

01:08:42.28
youcantcompthis
On a scale of 1 to 10 were you impressed with his play in game seventh.

01:08:49.30
Adz
I was impressed that he kept his cool so Pat like the the yeah the soing to the refs has become a real problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was that was the plan. It's like all right. We've had enough of this from lebron.

01:08:56.71
youcantcompthis
They teed him up early though didn't didn't they yeah I think he he couldn't really suck anymore I think that was it. Yeah yeah te you up early have a nice quiet game. Yeah.

01:09:08.99
Adz
We know how to deal with it. Ah, that's it. You're done. That's it. That's it but look as I said all props to the guy. Um congrats to the Mavericks commiserations of the thunder I think game 7 the game seven s that are coming are going to be absolutely phenomenal.

01:09:18.68
youcantcompthis
There.

01:09:26.79
Adz
And yeah, looking forward to the the west end of the Eastern conference finals. It's going to be exciting.

01:09:29.88
youcantcompthis
I'm not saying commiserations to thunder fans have got like the best young team in the league with what thirty first round picks coming in. Oh boohoo come on ah congratulations thunder fans. That's what I say to you guys? you've had an amazings.

01:09:36.43
Adz
They lost today. Let them have a day of mourning. Ah fair enough you heard e first have some more first round picks.

01:09:46.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right, you've had some an amazing season. Congrats. Yeah, thanks everyone for listening. Thank you Central Coast Radio listeners. Thank you podcast listeners. We really appreciate you all.

01:09:49.57
Adz
Yeah, they did They did they remarkably? well.

01:09:57.31
Adz
Um, and we'll see you next week