You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
Episode 149: Celtics Win, Brown v Tatum, Giddey Traded, Pippen 1of1, Jumpman PMG
Episode 149 : The Finals are over & we have our champion.
- Jaylen Brown gets MVP over Tatum; implications of this.
- Luka vs Tatum vs brown SCN
- Luka vs Tatum vs brown YCCT
- Tatum 1/1 Kaboom
- Stars age winning first chip,
- Giddy trade Giddey card ladder
- Olympics sponsorship: Will CC be named to the team.
- Spicy P extension, Spicy p card ladder
- Monty Williams fired; owed 65 million
- Pippen 1/1, Pippen one of one sold
- Jordan PMG Jumpman unlicensed
- Carmelo finally getting paid
- Jontay Porter Update
- Paninis future
- Fanatics collect
- PMG vs Jordan Auto
- Cameron Brink injured
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youcantcompthis
um how
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Adz
back on it's like topics that are relevant I'm like oh so yeah 149
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, right. Yeah, I haven't deleted anything. It's all there. How many pages have we done? 114 pages of notes. and That's epic.
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Adz
episodes that's
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youcantcompthis
114 pages of notes.
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Adz
what I mean like but it's not a page per it's but it's a pretty comprehensive
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youcantcompthis
Yeah. ah Yeah, there's other sheets, you know, like we've done.
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Adz
Oh, when we have guests, we have other show. We have separate sheets that we share with Devon.
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youcantcompthis
Are we live?
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Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's true. We are.
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youcantcompthis
Okay.
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Adz
We are. Like the internet can can see what we're up to right now.
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youcantcompthis
We probably should start. All right, you ready?
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Adz
Yes.
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Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 149 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Training Card Podcast. We are your hosts, Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson. How you doing, Russell?
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, mate, I'm very, very, very good. A small part of me is a little bit sad that the and NBA season's finished, but in saying that we had some really big news this week in the NBA. So I was just kind of like, it's okay. You know, like there's still NBA stuff happening.
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Adz
It does it. Yeah, I guess there's there's less there's less to watch.
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youcantcompthis
I'll survive. Yeah.
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Adz
I mean, we've got we've got obviously a draft coming up and some some, yes, and the Olympics are coming up soon.
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youcantcompthis
WNBA to watch in the, in the interim.
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Adz
So we've got some pre say pre some internationals to watch, some Australian basketball and Team USA that's being assembled.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
But yes, there's still plenty. This is it this is a 365 day a year sport nowadays, for sure.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's one thing that the NBA has done now very well in terms of their scheduling.
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Adz
Mm.
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youcantcompthis
It just doesn't stop. It's perfect.
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Adz
Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
They've done it really, really well.
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Adz
and And the media and the media, of course.
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youcantcompthis
They don't stop.
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Adz
Yes.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
Speaking of the media, we should probably start things off fight by talking to our our regular listeners or the ones that do normally join us on the Facebook Live.
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youcantcompthis
you
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
We've moved. i but we Yeah, all right.
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youcantcompthis
Wow. We were forced to move.
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Adz
So the software that I i use for the live stream doesn't like groups anymore. um So, because we've been doing YouTube live, anyway, we decided, well, why don't we just tell everybody that we're over there on on YouTube?
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, self promotion hasn't been our strongest point over these years, but that's okay. And we have to, um, there's actually over 160 videos, something like this on YouTube.
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Adz
It's true.
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youcantcompthis
So we actually are on there. And if you would like to join us live each week, around eight thirties, our sort of general i eight, eight, eight thirties.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Adz
so do Yeah, around, if you're if you if you're there, there abouts at the eight o'clock mark, you'll get a notification, you tick that, you wow, come on, I've learned, I've been, you ready?
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youcantcompthis
Well, here we go. This is, this is where we need to say you have to subscribe and like.
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Adz
Subscribe and click that, hit that bell so you get notified when we go live.
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youcantcompthis
Like, like every other annoying YouTuber that says that, and i I hate it when people say that and I never subscribe and like if they ask me to do it, but we're going to be those people for your own good.
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Adz
just give us a big thumbs up, give us that like, give us, yeah, that's right. Just jump on the episode, you don't have to hang around for long. That's it, that's it. Like let the algorithm know that we exist.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.
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Adz
um I mean, we we did jump across to YouTube podcast as well recently.
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youcantcompthis
yeah
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Adz
So the whole library is there, all 100, well after this week, 149 episodes will be will be up and available, I think, I hope.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah. So a little bit of a segue and just my own personal rant here.
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youcantcompthis
So I used to use Google podcasts, but because they're, it's very, I've, it speaks to my soul.
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Adz
Uh oh. I've never used Google Podcast.
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youcantcompthis
It's very slim lined. It's easy. It's great. So when they're getting rid of it, I was like, okay, great. Now I need to find a new one. So I tried tune in. It plays ads. The ad comes from the app. Then you get ads from the podcast.
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Adz
So you get ads on ads.
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youcantcompthis
And then it'll actually play an ad over the top while the podcast is playing. It's diabolical.
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Adz
but that's
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youcantcompthis
So actually the, and by the way, we're not getting paid for any of this commentary.
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Adz
that's That's inception.
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youcantcompthis
We don't, I'm about to say actually the YouTube podcast app feature is quite good. It's not as good as Google podcasts, but it's yeah, it's like a tab.
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Adz
YouTube's got an app feature for the for the podcasting, has it? Nice. Cool. Awesome. Awesome. Interesting, interesting. So yeah, so don't go to tune and you get ads and ads. So if you go to YouTube, you just get add me ads, and then our ads, and that's it.
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youcantcompthis
That's just confusing.
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Adz
That's too many ads, but I'm not going anywhere.
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youcantcompthis
I think we've segwayed pretty hard right now. Should we get back to the regular content?
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Adz
Regular content, um for those that were already watching us on YouTube though, I'm sorry we had to explain it and draw everybody else along, but but yes. We can go through our other socials later on. Let's get back to the show.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah. So we have a guest coming up in the next week. Rod Adams is going to come on and have a bit of a chat to us about
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Adz
Nice.
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youcantcompthis
hobby scams and what to be aware of. So that will be good.
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Adz
Yeah, the eye opening, I think.
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youcantcompthis
And then the hobby, then the hobby hangout is coming up. So we will be there. We'll be on stage. We will be doing a podcast and I'm
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Adz
Lawfully on stage, like they'll actually let us, we don't have to like jump up and get kicked out for any doing any. All right.
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youcantcompthis
not sure about that, but we will be doing a live podcast.
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Adz
We're not sure about the details yet. Yep.
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youcantcompthis
That is that I am certain of.
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Adz
Cool.
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youcantcompthis
and we'll be there to to talk to people and say hello. So I think this is the perfect time to jump into a quick, the important details. So it's the 30th of June at the Melbourne Pavilion.
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Adz
Yep.
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youcantcompthis
135 to 157 Racecourse Road. If you're someone like me who doesn't particularly like driving, you can public transport it down. There's also parking there, but if I do recall parking there, it was a little bit tricky. So don't get there late. hoping to get a park out the front. You're not going to get pole position turning up late guys. It's just not going to happen.
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Adz
Good call.
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youcantcompthis
My other recollection too from the hobby hangers, people queue up early. So if you do want to get in there by doors open, you will need to get there fashionably early and jump in the queue.
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Adz
oh Should be a good day though. I think it'll be a great day down there.
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youcantcompthis
Amazing to
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Adz
Lots happening. As you've said, we will be down there talking to people. We'll be doing our show, crashing the stage.
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youcantcompthis
And just to probably not crashing, because because the next person that they've actually just announced it'll be there is Jake Matthews.
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Adz
Did you say crashing the stage?
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youcantcompthis
So I don't think we should be crashing the stage of a USC athlete, Addy.
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Adz
Um, all right.
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youcantcompthis
This is not good for our self-preservation, you know?
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Adz
Yeah, you're right. You're probably right there. um I'm not, I'm not kidding. No, no, no, not at that stage anyway.
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youcantcompthis
No.
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Adz
Maybe after, but I don't know.
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youcantcompthis
Definitely not. Lane Pierce will be on there doing a workshop. Matthew Payne will be doing a panel. live podcasts from us and also the boys at Double Coverage, so we hope to catch up with them.
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Adz
Yeah, different sources would be good to see everybody.
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youcantcompthis
And just a smattering of other people, Slaw Collectibles, Mailman Breaks, Trident Collectibles, Jammer Collectibles, Rocket Collectibles, I don't think I've announced that one. Palms off, I've said that one. Boop Collectibles, The Card Cave, Collector Space, J Swish Collectibles, tickets at thehobbyhangout.com.au. Get on there, grab your tickets, just make sure that you don't turn up for the day with no ticket and sold out, that will be a bad outcome for you.
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Adz
Yes.
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youcantcompthis
You want your ticket to get in there, so.
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Adz
Yeah, it's gonna be a good day. See you all there for those that are.
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youcantcompthis
Yup. In Melbourne.
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Adz
any In Melbourne, of course. um So I know that the season did end.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
shall we Shall we recap the end of the season? There was one more game to go.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.
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Adz
Well, potentially one more game to go last time we spoke.
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youcantcompthis
yeah
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Adz
ah The Celtics really just closed it out in game five.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
um well It wasn't an interesting watch.
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youcantcompthis
Well, my brain was split into two because I was, half of me was like, what you just said, not particularly that interesting, but the other part of it too is I was like, can Luca get five threes in a row and you know, make this interesting. Um, did you have that slight thought in the back of your head or am I the only one in the room that was thinking this?
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Adz
I ah think it was... it was
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Adz
It was destined to be the game that it was.
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youcantcompthis
yes so Yeah, Yep.
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Adz
um And I just don't think, yeah, I don't think Luca had anything left in the tank, really. um
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youcantcompthis
They had a murderous row playoff front just to get there. Whereas on the flip side of that, the Celtics had a very fortuitous and well deserved because they had the number one seed.
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Adz
Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
And that's, that's what you get when you're the number one seed, you're supposed to get the easiest, you know, path to the finals.
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Adz
is
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Adz
hang hey Well, as the number one seed, they also had the the great luck of every opponent they're facing, having their star player yeah be injured.
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youcantcompthis
That's the idea.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah. And that too, that's right. Definitely fortuitous. That's right. Yeah.
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Adz
It was definitely a four-leaf clover.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
they um
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youcantcompthis
So why don't we, um, let's just get your feelings on the and NBA finals champion, Boston Celtics. Well, how do you feel about the Celtics as champions?
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Adz
I never feel good about the Celtics as champions. um that's but That's a Lakers thing.
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youcantcompthis
Okay.
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youcantcompthis
But do you think they're a worthy champion? Do you think the, yeah.
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Adz
They were the best team all year. they like On paper, they were they were the best. That was the best lineup. They finished the season, I think it was a dozen games in front of the rest of the league.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely.
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Adz
like their Their regular season record just like showed their dominance from from very, very early on. um Yeah, they didn't take the foot off the gas all year, and and they showed that when they got to the playoffs, it was like 16, was it 16 and two?
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
That was their record in the fight in the playoffs?
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's wild.
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Adz
Pretty impressive. um Quite disrespectful that the last two championships they won were in 08 and 24. There was a few people that called that out.
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youcantcompthis
That, that is some high level Kobe maths.
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Adz
Yep, yep. Tatum's happy about that.
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youcantcompthis
So for me as champions, I would like to give them respect because for me, there's nothing that they've done to not give them that love and respect. That's where I'm sort of at with that.
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Adz
show Fisher. Fisher.
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youcantcompthis
I think also too. I'm critical of people when they don't act in a high character way. So I think when people behave well and also become a champion, you know, I think I want to give them their credit on that.
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Adz
Uh oh.
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youcantcompthis
Like, and if you think about Jason Tatum, have you ever heard a bad word about this guy in terms of speeding tickets or, you know, being in nightclubs and fighting all this type of stuff?
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Adz
Nice.
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youcantcompthis
And same as, you know, Jalen Brown, I think, you know, as you sort of go through that roster, there are, you know, a bunch of high character guys. I mean, you could probably argue the worst character guys, their head coach that had some weird infraction 10 years ago. You know what I mean? Like it's, there's not a lot going on in that space there.
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Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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youcantcompthis
So look, I love all that type of stuff. So I think that's for me, that's really cool. And then the other part that my brain immediately goes to, whether that's being planted by just this mass media machine that we're in now too, is I think they've got another championship run in them.
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Adz
Yep.
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youcantcompthis
There's nothing that I sort of really look at that roster and think, Oh, this wheel's going to fall off and that's going to hold this team back. Like their salary cap is structured really well.
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youcantcompthis
That they could actually, yeah, they can still actually add pieces to this roster with it.
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Adz
They've got a window, they've got a big window right now. um Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
You know, the only one obviously is Porzingis. It's the ongoing injury problem, but that didn't really seem too much of a problem this year. And I think if we're being realistic about the upgrade that they made from Time Lord to him. You can sort of say technically, well, Paul Zinkis probably would have played more games in Timelord this year anyway. So I'm, I'm totally fine with all of that.
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Adz
Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
So anyway, look, congratulations to them. I think to the Dallas Mavericks fans and the team themselves, I don't think you've got anything to be ashamed of either. I think they had an amazing run and I think their mid-season acquisitions were just huge.
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Adz
Yeah, I tend to agree with that.
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youcantcompthis
And I think maybe the the front office of the Mavericks should probably get a little bit more commendations because I think there wasn't that many other teams that really made as prolific moves, maybe other than the Celtics realistically going into this year.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Adz
Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
Jaylen Brown got the MVP over Tatum. ah What are the narrative implications of this for you? So for example, for me, what I'm meeting by this is that, do you think that it could possibly cause friction between Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum? And actually that would be the thing that's going to make this team combust. Do you think that it's not a problem at all?
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Adz
Hmm.
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youcantcompthis
And actually it's just another example of when Andre Iguodala won the finals MVP, but Steph was absolutely the man of that team. And there was no, there's no question about that.
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Adz
And there was no doubt about that whatsoever, was there?
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youcantcompthis
still But for some silly reason, you know, Iguodala got it anyway.
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Adz
Yep.
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youcantcompthis
And look, I, I personally, that's where I put that MVP for Jaylen Brown into because the numbers just weren't there.
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Adz
Yep.
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Adz
Okay.
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youcantcompthis
Um, and I think that.
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youcantcompthis
I actually have a really big problem sort of understanding why he actually did get the award over Tatum. And so I wanted to talk to you about that too. So I've really asked you two questions here, but yeah, where are you at with that?
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Adz
Okay.
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Adz
with the with With Jaylen Brown getting finals MVP, I'm i'm okay with it. Like i I felt like Brown stepped up whereas Tatum found out what role he needed to play.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
And I don't have a problem with that. ah But yeah, I just
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Adz
I think Jason Tatum showed that he can adjust in a big game, but I don't think he stepped up and sort of grabbed the ball by the horns, so to speak.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
But he was a bit they've been that from day one. They've been a team first. group and their number one and two are very interchangeable in the fact that, because Brown got the the Larry Bird trophy, didn't he? The the aer the Eastern Finals MVP.
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youcantcompthis
Brown did. ye Yeah.
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Adz
Yeah. So he's sort of already showing that he was on the radar of the of those of the media voting as being the most important player in in that Boston unit.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
Yep.
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Adz
So.
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youcantcompthis
So stats don't always tell the full story, but I think this is definitely worth saying. So Jason Tatum, 22 points, 7.8 rebounds, 7.2 assists, and one steal. This is finals numbers.
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Adz
Mm hmm.
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youcantcompthis
Jalen Brown, 20.8 points. So Tatum outscored him. Jalen Brown, 5.4 rebounds. So again, Tatum out rebounded him.
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Adz
Mm hmm.
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youcantcompthis
Jalen Brown five assists again, Tatum out assisted him Jalen Brown 1.6 deals. He beat Tatum in steals. Like to me, that's a really interesting stats summary.
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Adz
So, so
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Adz
think I think impact wise, where the scoring run happens, you'll see that Brown's points came at more pivotal times.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
Sure.
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Adz
That's my understanding in in games.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
I think it was game game two was the real, it it was neck and neck and then Brown decided to put the foot down kind of thing.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
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Adz
He's the one that sort of lit things up and took over the game. And I think that's where the judges made their their mind up.
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youcantcompthis
yeah
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Adz
And I think their minds were made up by by the end of game three.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, I, I, I entirely agree with that, to be honest.
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Adz
So games four four and five may not have impacted that at all, yeah. Yeah.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah. I actually wonder if they pre-filled in.
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Adz
I did see a joke meme about Scott Foster getting votes for finals and MVP when the Mavericks took game four. But yeah.
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youcantcompthis
So let's turn this into a card conversation. Cause you know, let's be honest. That's what we're all here for.
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Adz
Yes.
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youcantcompthis
As we stand today, Luca Doncic last sold for 1,048. Now in the last three months, he's actually down nearly 10%.
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Adz
Sheesh.
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youcantcompthis
Jason Tatum current price 8.60. He's up 13%.
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Adz
Mm
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youcantcompthis
And Jaylen Brown is currently trading at 3.67. He's all USD prices and he is up 65%.
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Adz
hmm.
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youcantcompthis
And actually if it had have been from say three sales before, he might've even been up 70 or 75%. So which of these do you think is the the better purchase?
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Adz
Wow.
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Adz
I'd be remiss if I didn't say Jalen Brown.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah, OK.
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Adz
But the question the the question of my...
00:17:49.27
Adz
It's still funny that you only get Overlooker when you combine these two.
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youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:17:57.80
Adz
Like that neither of the Boston players are as... as highly valued as Luca. And if you combine the population of their PSA 10s, you still don't get like to half the population of Luca.
00:18:12.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:18:14.16
Adz
And I think pop count does make a difference here, which is where I just, the the Luca value baffles me with the pop count there. I just think there's value in Jalen Brown. I think he's a, he's a $500 player.
00:18:27.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:18:30.36
Adz
At least.
00:18:30.46
youcantcompthis
So I'm totally I'm fine with that. Now, I tell you where my head has been leaning the last couple of weeks, though. So I think part of it is you in my ear every week telling me that Luca is overs. But I'm actually beginning to sort of lean towards that. Maybe Tatum is a little bit unders because like he's tick so many boxes now.
00:18:46.00
Adz
Oh, I like that. Hmm.
00:18:49.83
youcantcompthis
Population is much, much healthier on this than the Luca. It's there's three times less Tatum's and Lucas.
00:18:56.52
Adz
Yep. Yep.
00:18:57.60
youcantcompthis
The price is there. He's ah a young guy. So that's another statistic that came up this week. Ages of NBA stars when they won their first title, Jason Taylor, Jason Tatum is 26.
00:19:07.88
Adz
Yep.
00:19:09.94
youcantcompthis
Jalen Brown, 27. Steph Curry, 27. LeBron James, 27. Shaq and Jordan, 28. Kevin Durant, 28. Dirk Nowitzki, 31. Probably not the best example, but here it is. ah Two others that weren't included in this graphic, I looked these up at. Kobe Bryant was 21. I checked that twice.
00:19:27.69
Adz
Yeah, he was. It was like he's what, third year with Shaq? Third, fourth year.
00:19:31.16
youcantcompthis
Yep.
00:19:31.57
Adz
Fourth year with Shaq, yeah, third year, yeah.
00:19:33.16
youcantcompthis
Akima Lajuan was 31.
00:19:35.19
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:19:36.66
youcantcompthis
But he was also in an era where there was a very dominant man named Michael Jordan running around.
00:19:40.05
Adz
All right, then he he, yeah, he, he, he waited and Hakeem got his when Jordan retired, didn't he?
00:19:41.06
youcantcompthis
So that probably messed him up a little bit.
00:19:47.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'm fine with that. It doesn't even make me mad when people say that. Like it was.
00:19:51.77
Adz
No. No, no, no, but I was just like, yeah, if that guy Jordan hadn't retired,
00:19:57.07
youcantcompthis
He wasn't retired. Okay. He was on a suspension for a gambling debt. Let's, um, that's not a game's fault. All right. Anyway. So I put this post up a couple of times, so once on sports cards nonsense. So again, admin of sports cards and nonsense and the boys at sports cards and nonsense keep up the great work. There's 110 comments here. We're not reading reading through them all, but to summarize a few of the key points, there are some very passionate people about this on both sides. But one thing that keeps coming up through this thread is that the potential for Luca and what he's already done and you know, where he's going to, that is something that
00:20:34.82
youcantcompthis
hobbyists have really subscribed into this theory. So I think that helps explain a lot about the the value obviously there, but also the population counts. You know, that's not something that people are particularly fussed about.
00:20:48.08
Adz
Yeah.
00:20:49.69
youcantcompthis
One really interesting one came up. This is from, excuse me, Brian, Brian Billoo. I'm sorry if I mispronounce your name. Jalen Brown is the most affordable and I feel has the most upside. All of these players are future Hall of Famers in b Brian's opinion. And that's something I hadn't really thought about with Jalen Brown, that he'll be a Hall of Famer. But if you think about some of the guys that get there who've maybe done less, it's not the most outrageous thing to say, considering that he is still a young guy.
00:21:17.88
Adz
and NBA champion NBA finals MVP.
00:21:19.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right. And still got a chance to run it back for you know two or three more years. I'm totally down with this.
00:21:27.22
Adz
Yeah.
00:21:28.06
youcantcompthis
yeah um A few people
00:21:28.11
Adz
Yeah. he's He's got more finals MVPs than the other two on that comparison.
00:21:35.62
youcantcompthis
Yes.
00:21:35.65
Adz
Shots fired already.
00:21:36.41
youcantcompthis
Yes. Yes, he does. This is going to give you unlimited ammunition. You know, remember who got the finals MVP.
00:21:41.64
Adz
Uh,
00:21:44.72
Adz
How's Luca doing? Still got, same amount of finals MVPs as Jason Tatum.
00:21:49.28
youcantcompthis
Now there was a couple of responses that all of these three guys are good to buy.
00:21:49.86
Adz
And Jason Tatum's an NBA champion. Anyway.
00:21:56.75
youcantcompthis
I'm, I'm down with that too, actually.
00:21:58.47
Adz
Yeah.
00:21:59.27
youcantcompthis
It's not the worst. three players to be you know choosing through. A few people were pulling me up on my grammar the way that I worded the post so guys thank you so much. I always love when people edit and you know correct my grammar.
00:22:08.92
Adz
Thanks for caring. Yeah.
00:22:11.49
youcantcompthis
Now back at home Andrew Souter Hewitt, I would love to see a chart of how strong and popular the hobby was through these years. A lot of people got back into the hobby 1890s who always value Luca Don't get me wrong, Luca is a great player besides always soaking to the refs, but I feel a lot of people are too invested paying the price of future goat. Tatum and Brown um would be where I would put my investment money. and Look, that's an interesting point, isn't it? That it's almost like your own recency bias.
00:22:43.07
youcantcompthis
Like if you grew up in the age of Kobe Bryant, that was your goat.
00:22:46.41
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:22:47.31
youcantcompthis
If you grew up in the age of Steph Curry, you know, that was your man for me.
00:22:50.91
Adz
Yep.
00:22:51.35
youcantcompthis
I grew up in the era for chemo larger one, you know, that was the,
00:22:54.43
Adz
Yep, yep, yep.
00:22:54.63
youcantcompthis
That was my man. Yeah. Yeah. And did you want to read Anthony Mills?
00:22:58.23
Adz
Agreed. Yes, Anthony Milne said, I'd still invest in Luca. Tatum winning the title over ah still overshadowed by Brown MVP. Uh, and Luca being the lone ranger in Dallas and that hype still burning. There's always going to be the hype investment on Luca being, being only 24. He's actually turned 25 now.
00:23:19.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:23:20.53
Adz
So, but, but yes, I don't know.
00:23:21.05
youcantcompthis
Okay.
00:23:24.71
Adz
I still, the pop camp for me.
00:23:26.37
youcantcompthis
So the narrative, the narrative here is easy though, when you think about it, Tatum had to go through all these playoff battles and failures last year, you know, makes it the finals.
00:23:33.29
Adz
Yep.
00:23:36.27
Adz
ye
00:23:37.51
youcantcompthis
You know, so you can, for me, that's easy to, you know, to play that out basically.
00:23:41.22
Adz
Yep.
00:23:41.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Uh, really quickly before we go to our first break, the Jason Tatum green one of one Kaboom surfaced recently. So actually this was two weeks ago.
00:23:49.90
Adz
Oh, the fact that it's green is insane, right?
00:23:54.02
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so that's right. You froth over color matches. I thought you might be interested in this card. um The green one of one, I'm not too sure about.
00:24:00.08
Adz
Love glove a good color match.
00:24:04.46
youcantcompthis
I'm still going to stick by this. I think black or platinum or something. I think green is tricky, but for green for Celtics and green for maybe the Hornets or something like this that you could
00:24:14.34
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's sort of it.
00:24:18.29
youcantcompthis
maybe sort of push that into a color match. Maybe the Timberwolves, that sort of fluoro green, you could maybe maybe pair that out.
00:24:22.89
Adz
Oh, yeah, yeah, true. True, true.
00:24:24.66
youcantcompthis
But yeah, i'm I am with you on this one. I don't think this card should be sent to grading though. I think East-West, there's still a bit of centering problems on this. oh
00:24:34.50
Adz
It should just be, shouldn't it just be authenticated? It's a wonderful one. Center it like really?
00:24:44.08
Adz
I reckon they were intentionally trimmed, that they they were intentionally framed that way.
00:24:49.51
youcantcompthis
Mmm.
00:24:50.16
Adz
Because of the explosion that's been off put off-center.
00:24:54.45
youcantcompthis
I'm going to no comment that one, mate.
00:24:56.59
Adz
Yup, yup.
00:24:57.35
youcantcompthis
Anyway, congratulations to the Keto.
00:24:58.03
Adz
I'm trying. Yeah, what?
00:24:59.84
youcantcompthis
That's an old, time that's an old timer.
00:25:01.93
Adz
Like, can you imagine having that in hand?
00:25:02.08
youcantcompthis
We're going to talk about.
00:25:04.82
youcantcompthis
No, I would be quite concerned about holding that thing out.
00:25:04.86
Adz
That is a sexy card.
00:25:10.02
Adz
And he's got the black jersey on, so the the green really pops.
00:25:14.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's they've nailed it. Pinini does some good stuff. it's It's not all doom and gloom when it comes to Pinini, but actually this is probably the best Pinini example, isn't it?
00:25:23.97
Adz
Mm, the Kaboom.
00:25:24.78
youcantcompthis
They've actually nailed the card itself, but then it's off-centered.
00:25:29.45
youcantcompthis
Is that the best summary for the Pinini error?
00:25:30.45
Adz
It's like, oh, this is the best looking card and it's panini, so it's off.
00:25:32.52
youcantcompthis
Hang on a second.
00:25:33.85
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
00:25:34.44
youcantcompthis
Off-centered. yeah All right, let's go to a break and we'll be right back.
00:25:37.47
Adz
Sums it up.
00:25:55.30
youcantcompthis
All righty, we are back.
00:25:58.20
Adz
Back.
00:25:58.40
youcantcompthis
Adam, how did you enjoy your little refresher? How did you go?
00:26:02.80
Adz
A break is always good. There's always a nice chance to to grab a drink and settle back in for some more basketball cut.
00:26:04.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:26:06.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Are you a Coke or Pepsi man? I've never asked you this question.
00:26:12.48
Adz
Ooh, used to be a Pepsi Max guy.
00:26:14.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:26:14.59
Adz
but with the with And this is interesting. It's Diet Coke versus Pepsi Max. I was Pepsi Max all day when I was young.
00:26:21.79
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:26:21.93
Adz
And now since Coke Zero, I'm a Coke Zero guy.
00:26:24.12
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.
00:26:25.26
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, but i I don't have a lot. I don't really go, I'm more of a coffee drinker than a carbonated.
00:26:31.92
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I do like I'm a Coke Zero guy. Hey, do you subscribe to the um the chemicals in the Coke Zero is worse than the sugar.
00:26:39.76
Adz
Ooh, Diet Coke I used to.
00:26:41.57
youcantcompthis
Are you worried about the chemicals?
00:26:43.00
Adz
Nah.
00:26:44.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah, me too.
00:26:44.60
Adz
Yeah, no, I'm like, there's enough things that'll kill me.
00:26:46.50
youcantcompthis
I don't know if I'm actually giving myself cancer drinking Coke Zero, but anyway.
00:26:50.09
Adz
We all use mobile phones, aren't aren't we?
00:26:51.92
youcantcompthis
Yeah, absolutely.
00:26:52.40
Adz
Yeah, that's supposed isn't that supposed to do it? Oh wait, there's something else.
00:26:54.43
youcantcompthis
Apparently.
00:26:55.04
Adz
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. You've probably rattled off another ah number of things that are worse than the chemicals in Coke.
00:27:02.00
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:27:03.11
Adz
Probably.
00:27:04.51
youcantcompthis
Now, Central Coast Radio, we are on Central Coast Radio three times a week.
00:27:09.88
Adz
Wow.
00:27:10.47
youcantcompthis
Tuesdays at 11 p.m. Melbourne time. Thursdays, 10 a.m. Melbourne time. Saturday night, 3 a.m. If you are up raging and you need to listen to some tunes and some sports card talk,
00:27:28.76
Adz
I am so gonna get drunk one of these days and it's gonna be like two in the morning. I'm like, stay up for another hour. We're on the radio.
00:27:34.92
youcantcompthis
I'm on the radio. Central Coast radio.com is where you hear us on the radio. So we talk sports, spoke we talk cards, we play music. It really ticks a lot of boxes for my life.
00:27:47.70
Adz
Yeah.
00:27:48.09
youcantcompthis
So yeah, thank you for Central Coast radio for picking us up and giving us the support. We're very, very grateful. Our next agenda item is Joshua Giddy being traded to the Chicago Bulls.
00:28:01.33
Adz
ah
00:28:06.41
youcantcompthis
for one Alex Caruso in a straight up trade, no draft assets were exchanged in this deal.
00:28:06.97
Adz
it was a It was a straight up trade.
00:28:14.35
Adz
There were a couple of um memes that went around pretty quickly, actually.
00:28:19.93
youcantcompthis
So a lot of chatter was created by this trade, a lot of chatter. And I feel like there's ah there's basically three main opinions about this.
00:28:24.81
Adz
Mmm.
00:28:30.40
youcantcompthis
is This is my view on it is that it's a win-win trade. Both teams are going to benefit from this trade. The bulls have won because they're picking up a younger asset.
00:28:40.51
Adz
Yes.
00:28:41.14
youcantcompthis
And this is where I'm lying. You don't trade old for young and you don't trade big for small. So the comparison I'm saying on this, and this is a terrible example, but um this is the best one I could think of.
00:28:54.39
Adz
Yeah.
00:28:54.44
youcantcompthis
This is the Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond trade back in the day. And we all know who won that trade. hands down, which was the Sacramento Kings picking up the young big guy. You know, it's as simple as that.
00:29:07.69
Adz
Yeah.
00:29:07.83
youcantcompthis
So that's where I'm leaning into this. And then the third opinion is that um something really bad must have happened for the Thunder to dump him basically for a single vet without any draft compensation back.
00:29:17.78
Adz
ah
00:29:20.63
youcantcompthis
so
00:29:20.95
Adz
What, what do you think? Well, and that was a thing, right? Like, they could have got more in this deal, but I think they just wanted, they wanted a defensive presence.
00:29:31.86
youcantcompthis
Well, I'm actually not sure that they could have got more. And I think that's where the issue lies here because yeah, it's, it's a really interesting one.
00:29:36.02
Adz
Really?
00:29:41.42
youcantcompthis
I suppose because too, they can't really take back more draft assets. They've already got 31st round picks. So what's 31 picks going to do for them? Like I think they had to get a player back and I think they did want something quite particular in a defensive minded veteran.
00:29:51.53
Adz
Mm-hmm. If they needed something, yeah.
00:29:59.59
youcantcompthis
who can shoot. I think that was like the three things. So I think that really narrowed it down for them. um And then my final thought about this is that I think it leaves the Thunder really small because essentially it's Chet Holdgram and like Foreguard. So the starting lineup projected is going to be Jalen Williams spelled E-N at the fore, Caruso Dort and then SGA.
00:30:16.23
Adz
Yep.
00:30:23.41
youcantcompthis
which leaves them really small.
00:30:23.50
Adz
Yeah.
00:30:24.57
youcantcompthis
So I think where my head now is going, okay, they trade five picks for a good power forward.
00:30:28.33
Adz
A big. Yeah.
00:30:29.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I think that has to happen, right?
00:30:31.75
Adz
Yep.
00:30:32.76
youcantcompthis
They can't, they can't walk into the season like that.
00:30:35.80
Adz
So what does the Kevin Durant trade look like?
00:30:39.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:30:41.03
Adz
He'll be a good four for them.
00:30:41.61
youcantcompthis
I mean, is that, is that actually that crazy?
00:30:45.10
Adz
I think the most one of the most logical places to land Kevin Durant, there's been a couple of articles about it, is going, if Phoenix wanna off like get rid of him, yeah, yeah, but if Phoenix wanna get rid of him, like if he's not happy in Phoenix, send him back to OKC, cause A, OKC have got all the picks, and Phoenix have got none.
00:30:51.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:30:53.68
youcantcompthis
Completely speculated, but yeah, yeah.
00:31:03.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah. 100%. Yeah.
00:31:07.10
Adz
Perfect, match made in heaven. Let's see if they can work it out.
00:31:11.83
youcantcompthis
Look, I don't think we can read through all the responses. So why don't we just pick two each because otherwise we'll just be, it'll just be the episode about the Josh giddy trade.
00:31:20.80
Adz
the the Josh Giddy episode. I mean, that's that's one way to celebrate Boston's title.
00:31:22.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:31:26.40
youcantcompthis
but
00:31:27.55
Adz
I'm not, admit I wouldn't be mad.
00:31:27.61
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:31:30.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I think we've got other things that are kind of cool to talk about in addition.
00:31:33.59
Adz
like Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed.
00:31:35.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:31:36.31
Adz
um Who do you wanna go with? whose Whose response do you wanna?
00:31:43.01
youcantcompthis
So I think Mark car Hill, that's probably, you know, I think it's a good response. Good for both teams. Josh checked out of OKC mid season with a constant booing from the home team, which I think is a real thing, by the way, too, at some point.
00:31:55.49
Adz
Yeah.
00:31:56.43
youcantcompthis
fan bases give up on players, never wanted to lose Crusoe. So I'm assuming he's a Bulls fan, ah but to get something decent, you got to give up so many decent, go Bulls. Yeah. And I think for me to add to that too, is that I think the Bulls gave up so much draft equity to get Vusovich is that for them to get back a young player who was drafted really high for a veteran guard, like that is an absolute home run when you summarize it like that.
00:32:19.59
Adz
Yeah, yeah um what I got?
00:32:22.57
youcantcompthis
Yep.
00:32:25.45
Adz
Andy Britannia as a Bulls fan. I'd say okay see on the trade ah From all accounts ah we had two first round picks lined up for a trade for Caruso and didn't take it a straight swap for Caruso seems a bit bleak As all accounts to the Bulls organization was to continue to build through the draft Hate to see Elmer Fudd go but bring on the giddy goodness of
00:32:51.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:32:55.39
youcantcompthis
So this is from Cody Martin. He's actually put a bit of thought into this point guard, giddy shooting guard, Kobe Wyatt, small forward, Pat Williams, powerful, DeRozan and center defensive minded center, trade Levine and Vooch. Kobe had a great season at point guard this year, but as someone who PCs Kobe, he'll play his best off the board shooting guard, getting fed dimes from giddy bulls easily win this trade for me.
00:33:20.81
Adz
Ooh.
00:33:20.90
youcantcompthis
So yeah, that's a, that's a cool little team construction.
00:33:24.31
Adz
I'm interested in DeRosen at Power Forward, but yeah.
00:33:27.58
youcantcompthis
He actually plays a fair bit of like small ball fall for them. So, and you can sort of interchange Pat Williams at the four and with the three with the rows.
00:33:30.68
Adz
Yeah.
00:33:34.73
Adz
True, true.
00:33:35.10
youcantcompthis
And so, you know, like, yeah.
00:33:35.69
Adz
The three for DeRosen. Yeah, sure, sure.
00:33:37.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:33:37.71
Adz
Interesting one.
00:33:39.02
youcantcompthis
But I agree with him. They need a big guy to come in and like play deep, but they've got big Andre Drummond who did seem a bit up and down, but I suppose he's never really protected the ring has he, the ring.
00:33:48.61
Adz
True, that's the the defense side of it.
00:33:51.02
youcantcompthis
Any more you wanted to touch on there at?
00:33:53.23
Adz
um to tip to do Oh, ill look, the stack's there, isn't there?
00:34:00.65
youcantcompthis
There's heaps.
00:34:03.13
Adz
Matthew Hull's got it quite of a quite a ride up there.
00:34:09.27
Adz
You've responded to a lot of these.
00:34:12.84
Adz
Yeah Matthew Hull, Bulls win shows they're about to clean house and start building an offense around a true ball handler that won't get injured. It's a sign so that the older folks of the Bulls are probably next as we chatted about. Russell Gibson could be the way Patrick ah steps up this year. Gibbs also has experience around the rookies and rookies can get, rookies that can get into final series. This will be good for Terry and AO. Wonder if it can now get rid of Levine and DeMar for Clay, maybe even Lil Katie. I'm sure Adam agrees. This is not an insane idea at all. Fair tackle play on.
00:34:56.61
Adz
There's a lot of play there, and it it shows that the Bulls want to rebuild, or they want to change what's going on.
00:34:58.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:35:03.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah. one I'm still very confused about what the bulls are doing. Like to me, it wouldn't surprise me if they then did go to a youth movement, which to be fair, I've been saying this for like two years now. But on the other hand, they could They could have just seen this as a really good opportunity to add good young talent for not giving up much. And now they're like, oh, we just need one more veteran and this will get us over the top. Like that's, to me, the type of ah franchise this is. Like, I don't think that they're actually in a true rebuilding mode after this one trade.
00:35:35.46
Adz
Mmm.
00:35:36.67
youcantcompthis
Do you know what I mean? Like, let's let's keep this straight here.
00:35:37.69
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:38.99
youcantcompthis
Let's not jump to conclusions to think that now they're thinking, you know, cleanly here.
00:35:40.47
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah.
00:35:43.55
youcantcompthis
Alrighty. Josh Giddy silver PSA 10 population of this is 144 last sold for just 60 bucks. Look, I've been very up and down on this and I've flipped and changed around it. I said, dump this, get off it. When all that crap happened with Josh, we don't need to rehash that. And then when he dropped down to the $50 to $60 mark, I was like, this is the best buy that's probably out there. I'm going to triple down on this. I think it's $60 with the opportunity that he is going to be walking into. Even if he has a slow year one, and let's just say they can't clear the log jam of DeRozan and Zach Levine and all that type of stuff.
00:36:15.97
Adz
Hmm.
00:36:17.95
youcantcompthis
That's fine. Like it doesn't matter. I think his future in Chicago is going to be very good. And I think that he will fit with pretty much whoever else is there so long as they can shoot the basketball. So him and Kobe are going to be totally fine.
00:36:30.79
Adz
Yeah.
00:36:33.85
youcantcompthis
Pat Will and him, how are they going to coexist? I think that's still. ah Needs to be proven, but in my head that is definitely not a blocker. I think this is a really really strong buy very interestingly No one is selling him at the moment So I think people are holding these they're not being listed on eBay Hundred percent a hundred percent.
00:36:48.49
Adz
Very interesting.
00:36:51.79
Adz
I also, I think there's a bigger, well, and there's a demand, I'm sure there's demand with the Bulls fans. I see what the Bulls do and the Bulls get a bit of a train going. There's a few Bulls fans out there. There's a market.
00:37:03.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:37:04.00
Adz
That's a market team.
00:37:04.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah All right. I'm going to change up the run sheet, Adam, just because it's my show and I want to do it. And I really want to talk about this next, and then we'll go to a quick break.
00:37:11.72
Adz
Sure.
00:37:14.33
youcantcompthis
Okay. So last week on the show, we spoke about the conspiracy theory of the team USA women sitting down at a hotel room, drinking drinks, conspiring to get Caitlin Clark left off the team. And then there was an Instagram video that came out four days ago. So look, I'm reporting this as news, but do not take this as gospel because I haven't verified it. And I don't even know if it's true, but I don't even really care to be honest. This is just like feeding my soul of entertainment right now.
00:37:43.94
Adz
wait We're believing the internet right now.
00:37:46.41
youcantcompthis
I believe Instagram. Yeah. yeah So this is from at Ryan and tell Telfer show.
00:37:48.35
Adz
Let's go.
00:37:52.62
youcantcompthis
I'll just spell it. This is easier. R Y A N T E L F E R S H O W. And he's basically reporting that 11 companies have now dropped off the Women's Team USA sponsorship schedule because Caitlin Clark is not there. These companies are arguing Caitlin Clark brings a lot of bums on seats, brings a lot of eyeballs on TVs, but Caitlin Clark's not going to be there.
00:38:16.26
Adz
Mmm.
00:38:16.62
youcantcompthis
So less people are going to be there, less people are going to watch, so on and so forth. We don't want to give you our money.
00:38:21.32
Adz
Yep.
00:38:21.60
youcantcompthis
as a consequence of this. So I think this is a super, super cool narrative. And I think this is something that we have to now keep a watch on and we need to be looking for the small stories that come out that are sort of start to allude. Oh, maybe she'll be an injury replacement.
00:38:36.78
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
00:38:37.10
youcantcompthis
Oh, someone just got hurt. Now she's part of the training squad. Oh, hang on a minute. She's done really, really well in the training squad. Maybe we should make her the 12th man, you know,
00:38:46.95
Adz
Ah.
00:38:49.63
youcantcompthis
Something like this. Maybe she still doesn't get, you know, into the regular rotation. That's fine. But all the fans are chanting her name each game. They want to see Caitlin Clark with a minute left of the quarter of the fourth quarter. Caitlin Clark gets out there and everyone goes wild and the sponsors are happy.
00:39:04.34
Adz
Wild, yes.
00:39:05.31
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:39:06.15
Adz
Alright, so, Olympics, give it to me, give it to me, give me a top three.
00:39:06.63
youcantcompthis
Everyone's happy.
00:39:11.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:39:12.67
Adz
Fake news stories that get Caitlin Clark, like injuries, food poisoning scare, what are we? What's what's what's getting Caitlin Clark into the Olympic squad?
00:39:19.60
youcantcompthis
so the So there's the Kobe Bryant food poisoning story that he wanted a burger at three o'clock in the morning and he was on the road in the hotel and ah he alleges that the chef gave him a bad burger and gave him gastro, right?
00:39:36.35
Adz
Yep.
00:39:36.66
youcantcompthis
Maybe that happens to Sabrina on an escrow, right?
00:39:40.27
Adz
One of the vets.
00:39:42.58
youcantcompthis
And then at the last minute, they have to call up Caitlin Clark.
00:39:42.62
Adz
Yep.
00:39:46.50
youcantcompthis
Caitlin Clark, can you be our Batman and save our team?
00:39:49.32
Adz
Yep.
00:39:49.36
youcantcompthis
And then he, she comes running through with a cape on and comes out and drops 18 points in one of the games. How about that? That's a good storyline.
00:39:56.36
Adz
All right, I'm gonna go with a soft tissue injury.
00:39:57.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah. You don't want some elaborate story that I just made up. How dare you.
00:40:02.39
Adz
No, no, no, I like i do i do like the the chef, the the food poisoning, but I can't steal the food poisoning one.
00:40:06.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Okay.
00:40:08.86
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Oh, actually, what about somebody somebody missed their flight?
00:40:11.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:40:13.96
Adz
Or there's like, there's visa problems in traveling or something.
00:40:17.24
youcantcompthis
Maybe a visa problem. Sure.
00:40:18.59
Adz
I like that, not being able to travel.
00:40:18.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah. But then why would Caitlin not have visa problems if everyone else does?
00:40:22.78
Adz
she but She, no, she was fine. She just goes and online, logs it, but there's like a ah problem with one of the players traveling.
00:40:30.01
youcantcompthis
Okay.
00:40:30.77
Adz
Yeah.
00:40:31.60
youcantcompthis
Sure.
00:40:31.87
Adz
Identity problems or like confused with yep, maybe I don't know that'd be good watch this space Time for a break
00:40:34.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah, totally. Yeah. All right. Yeah, definitely.
00:40:42.39
youcantcompthis
Absolutely. The bang man. Thank you so much for your ongoing support. We really appreciate everything you do for us, Amir. Amir and Team Bangman are coming out with products all the time. I touched base with Amir this week. I don't believe he does have currently a new product out. So the bronze edition is still available. 10 packs for $129. It is filled with an absolute heap of packets. I'm not going to read through them all because My mouth's feeling a little bit dry and I just don't have the spit to go through it all. But Prism Salo, Prism Blaster packs, Mosaic Fanatics packs, Optic Team Oil, Flux Blaster, Select Team Oil. That's basically the the crux of it there. Now, payment options, he's got it all. Pay ID, PayPal, Afterpay, Zip Pay. zippa Contact Amir via Facebook or Instagram. The bang man, he'll hit you up. Also, I think we should mention too, Amir is breaking like crazy at the moment. So if you want quick feeling breaks,
00:41:40.21
youcantcompthis
that are good value, you get to listen to Amir do your breaks for you. Lots of fun and entertainment there with Amir and team Bangman. So check him out. Thank you, Amir, for keeping our lights on and everything that you do for us, mate. It's very much appreciated.
00:41:59.52
youcantcompthis
We are back.
00:42:01.58
Adz
We're back.
00:42:02.35
youcantcompthis
We're back. Adam, what did you think about the tunes?
00:42:05.32
Adz
Love the, always love the tunes. And yeah, speaking of tunes, I might have to tune in and watch a mere break by the sound of it.
00:42:09.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:42:13.00
youcantcompthis
Why not listen to him go bang.
00:42:14.22
Adz
Yeah.
00:42:16.54
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Literally watch the bang man.
00:42:19.70
youcantcompthis
Hmm.
00:42:21.28
Adz
And well, I may have got no basketball to watch.
00:42:22.09
youcantcompthis
He needs to copyright bang. I reckon this is my business advice to him.
00:42:24.58
Adz
Good luck.
00:42:26.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:42:29.22
youcantcompthis
Alrighty.
00:42:31.26
Adz
Next up on the run sheet.
00:42:31.54
youcantcompthis
Let's, let's start with a little bit of a a short. This is not going to take us long to get through ad. All NBA forward Pascal Siakam intends to sign a four year, $189.5 million dollars contract. I mean, if you offered this much money, why would you not sign for that amount of money?
00:42:53.51
Adz
Why not? And I think it's it was a good move to get him to Indiana, sign him on for more money, let's do it.
00:42:54.50
youcantcompthis
Yep.
00:42:59.82
youcantcompthis
So there's a lot of talk around this contract in that when he was traded to them in the first place, it was almost a bit of a wink wink that if I'm traded here,
00:43:07.54
Adz
This is happening. Yep.
00:43:09.35
youcantcompthis
you're also going to extend me. And there was some speculation at the time he was traded that he was going to go maybe to Sacramento, maybe to New York.
00:43:14.22
Adz
Oh, wow.
00:43:17.29
youcantcompthis
New York was like very, very, very briefly mentioned. And my sort of theory around this is that the Kings didn't want to pay him $189.5 million. dollars And that was one of the top one, two and three reasons why he wasn't traded to there.
00:43:27.96
Adz
Fair.
00:43:31.32
Adz
Interesting.
00:43:31.40
youcantcompthis
So Indiana's strategy has been to sign and trade for veterans because getting free agents there is just something that they just cannot do into Indiana. So, ah you know, I really like, you know, I like this so much about like the team building aspect in the NBA and just like the psychology around that. Okay. So we're Indiana, no one wants to come and sign with us. That's the free agent. That's fine. Fine. We'll sign and trade dudes. You know, we'll get Pascal Siak and we'll get Tyrese Halliburton. No problems at all. You know, like it's super cool.
00:44:00.25
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, in speaking of Sacramento, it looks like Malik Monk re-signed in Sacramento.
00:44:03.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:44:09.93
Adz
um
00:44:11.54
youcantcompthis
Did you think that was an overpay under pay or just right?
00:44:14.15
Adz
I think that was probably just right. It was probably just right for Malik Monk.
00:44:19.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:44:21.31
Adz
um And he's really found himself in in Sacramento as sad as that makes me after he left Los Angeles.
00:44:21.31
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:44:28.19
Adz
But yeah, I liked him.
00:44:29.78
youcantcompthis
Hey mate, I think we actually left out a really important detail here. So with the new media agreement that's coming to play basically this year and and the year after, what we used to think about the max contract of sort of the 30 to $35 million dollars mark is now going to be $50 million.
00:44:39.21
Adz
Hmm.
00:44:45.58
youcantcompthis
dollars So yeah, so if you're getting Malik Monk for 20 a year, that's sort of like 40% of the max.
00:44:47.24
Adz
Okay.
00:44:52.59
youcantcompthis
You're like, actually like that's that's pretty good.
00:44:54.60
Adz
When you think Yeah, yeah.
00:44:54.92
youcantcompthis
so So Pascal Siakam for less than $50 million dollars a year, kind of like, okay, that's maybe we wanted to get in for a little bit less, but we have to pay him a bit more because we're in Indiana.
00:45:05.39
Adz
Fair, fair.
00:45:05.44
youcantcompthis
No one wants to come and live in Hicktown, but here we are.
00:45:06.17
Adz
Yep.
00:45:09.83
Adz
That's true. Yeah.
00:45:10.87
youcantcompthis
189 million reasons to stay. um But yeah, so Brandon Ingram is seeking $50 million dollars a year from the Palakans, which makes me think that there's going to be another sign and trade on the cards very soon. I don't think you can fit Zion and Ingram on the roster when you're paying those two guys that much money.
00:45:25.64
Adz
Who do you, if, who would you keep?
00:45:33.52
youcantcompthis
I think you have to bet on Zion. I think we know who, but i think we I think Ingram is a very good player, but I also think we know who he is.
00:45:36.28
Adz
Yeah, the Pelicans are all in on Zion, yeah, unfortunately. I still i think Ingram's the better player, like better getting on the court.
00:45:45.20
youcantcompthis
And I think at this point If he was going to win a championship, he was going to win a scoring title. He was going to be all NBA. It's not like he hasn't had the opportunity to do these things.
00:45:53.97
Adz
Agreed, agreed, totally.
00:45:55.04
youcantcompthis
So they, they made him the go-to guy on the Olympic team and then sort of halfway through the tournament, Steve Crow was like, this is not working. Like we need to.
00:46:00.76
Adz
This doesn't work, let's change it.
00:46:02.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. All righty. Spicy P silver PSA 10 population, 211 last sold for $56. So Josh giddy money.
00:46:15.33
Adz
Yeah.
00:46:16.34
youcantcompthis
Uh, the last year he's down 41%, which really hurts me.
00:46:21.04
Adz
Which is yeah.
00:46:22.14
youcantcompthis
Uh, the last three months he's down 15%. So look, I mean, this is another comp. We can just really do quickly. Would you like a spicy pee or would you like a Josh giddy?
00:46:33.25
Adz
Probably take giddy and it's there is younger.
00:46:34.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:46:37.17
youcantcompthis
Look, I actually think see outcomes, the better player.
00:46:40.03
Adz
Yeah.
00:46:40.21
youcantcompthis
And I think there's a lot of value to be had here, but I think the reality of this is that the more popular people are just more popular and Spicy P is just not that popular. I think there's a lot more um movement potential with Giddy though. I think he could see a real spike. I think he could be a lot more volatile.
00:46:57.74
Adz
Yeah, for sure.
00:46:58.91
youcantcompthis
Whereas I think someone like Spicy P is going to just be a bit of a, you know, a boring sort of move along type thing.
00:47:06.40
Adz
Yeah.
00:47:07.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Uh, this next piece is a comedy piece for me. So Monty Williams has been fired by the Detroit Pistons. He has actually owed $65 million dollars left on that contract, which he will receive every single dollar of that.
00:47:19.99
Adz
Of course you will.
00:47:21.37
youcantcompthis
So when coaches get fired, basically how the contracts are structured is there's no buyer. There's no, you get 80% or 75%. If you sign a contract as a coach, you get a hundred percent of those dollars.
00:47:31.06
Adz
Yeah. Get your money. Good.
00:47:35.20
youcantcompthis
Uh, also comedy wise for this is that he is also still being paid by the Phoenix Suns. He was owed $20 million dollars from them. So basically two teams have said to this gentleman, we will pay you $85 million dollars to not coach our team, which I think, um, I feel like that's something that would hurt my feelings. Adam, I'm not going to lie to you.
00:47:55.93
Adz
I don't know. I reckon I could pay for enough therapy for it not to hurt my feelings anymore.
00:47:59.52
youcantcompthis
and You probably still have about.
00:48:01.04
Adz
If I had 85 million. Yeah, 84 million.
00:48:02.57
youcantcompthis
$75 million dollars left over.
00:48:03.28
Adz
list Yeah.
00:48:04.49
youcantcompthis
Oh, yeah. $84 million, dollars right? Yeah.
00:48:06.93
Adz
A million dollars of therapy. I think I'll be fine with the other 84.
00:48:09.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we're fine. Yeah.
00:48:11.57
Adz
Yeah. I don't know. When they, when they said, have you ever seen someone get paid so much to do so little?
00:48:17.02
youcantcompthis
yeah He is the winner.
00:48:17.21
Adz
The only, the only, well, actually, no, I did put a photo of Ben Simmons up. ah Um,
00:48:23.09
youcantcompthis
I don't know about that, man. I think $85 million dollars to go away is, um, that's next level.
00:48:27.42
Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's pretty true.
00:48:30.85
youcantcompthis
So. Okay, all jokes aside, I've had my fun here with Monty. Look, I actually think he's a really good character guy.
00:48:35.38
Adz
He's a good coach.
00:48:37.45
youcantcompthis
I think he's an okay coach. I think with the right assistance, um directing the offense, he's he's a fine NBA coach, right?
00:48:46.80
Adz
Hmm.
00:48:48.41
youcantcompthis
And I think that the reason why the Pistons hired him is because he's like a high quality, good character guy who's going to lead this young team.
00:48:54.48
Adz
Hmm.
00:48:55.85
youcantcompthis
to a better outcome in four years time. Not this year. I think this is the part where I i think he's been done pretty dirty. That roster was terrible.
00:49:02.48
Adz
ah Agreed.
00:49:03.63
youcantcompthis
That roster was horrible. Like you can't.
00:49:05.11
Adz
Rusta was beyond horrible, yep.
00:49:06.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And I don't think it's fair to then fire that guy so soon after.
00:49:11.83
Adz
Yep.
00:49:11.83
youcantcompthis
It's really to me a bit like ah Brett Brown in Philadelphia when they sort of got good and then he was let go like that. I found that quite difficult to sort of
00:49:23.12
Adz
To swallow.
00:49:23.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Just sort of pass in my head. I was like, well, hang on a second.
00:49:25.49
Adz
Processor, yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:49:26.31
youcantcompthis
Like you hide this guy cause he was a good coach. He's done all the hard yards, so you know, let him have the success, you know? And I sort of feel a little bit the same with Monty, but at the same time, he's also getting paid at 85 million. So I don't really, we don't need to feel sorry for Monty, do we?
00:49:41.12
Adz
No, no, I think he'll be he'll he'll be all right.
00:49:41.92
youcantcompthis
No.
00:49:45.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:49:46.16
Adz
Yep. Even if he has to spend $2 million dollars on on therapy, I think he'll be all right.
00:49:50.09
youcantcompthis
That's all right. He will, he will get there.
00:49:51.98
Adz
He'll be fine.
00:49:53.08
youcantcompthis
All righty, so last week I put into the run sheet a Pippin one of one that we didn't actually get to talk about. And in the meantime, it's actually sold. So why don't we go to last week's post and we'll talk about the card, how it's being broken down. If you would like to see more about this, one of my favorite Instagram people whose name is absolutely eluding me now, but here it is at the real guy. He actually also broke down this card this week. And he basically explained about all the different ah variations of this card and and why this one is so rare, but I'll break it down in two seconds because that's my style.
00:50:31.45
youcantcompthis
This card's a one of one. um The other importance of this card is that it's basically one of the first one of ones that was put out into circulation. So, you know, when they're sort of doing new ideas, you know, try new things, that this is one of the things that stuck.
00:50:39.86
Adz
Huh.
00:50:43.93
youcantcompthis
This is basically one of the things that, you know, really drove collectors crazy. so
00:50:47.93
Adz
Yeah.
00:50:48.76
youcantcompthis
Another example out of this set that also is one of one was the Dennis Robin that sold for $81,000. Now, now knowing what we know now, so we're moving one week into the future. So it's really interesting to me that the Rodman sold for $81,000 and the Pippin just sold for $31,000.
00:51:08.28
Adz
When did the Rodman sell though? Like if that was in 2022, that's an $8,000 card. So like, you know what I mean? Selling for 80K. I'm talking about the the COVID spike, yeah.
00:51:17.87
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So the COVID crazy could be part of it. Um, just hear me out for a second here. So let's just use the Josh giddy Pascal Siakam thing.
00:51:27.19
Adz
Hmm.
00:51:28.06
youcantcompthis
You know, let's just call Scotty Pippen Pascal Siakam for this thing, the better player, but just not that popular. And Rodman has that real flamboyant people love his autographs.
00:51:34.27
Adz
Hmm, interesting. Yeah, Rodman's got an appeal to it. i mean
00:51:39.51
youcantcompthis
They love chasing his cards even today.
00:51:41.03
Adz
Yeah, true true.
00:51:41.43
youcantcompthis
And people really relate and You know, worship that guy, you know, and and look, maybe, you maybe you're more right about this as the time of the sale is really important, but.
00:51:50.22
Adz
Time of the sale. I mean, I, yeah, I'm, I'm obviously a Pippin fan. So like, I don't see the logic about the sale. Like, yeah.
00:52:00.51
youcantcompthis
Look, I think this is a nice card and I think that it's collectible, but this doesn't make me froth.
00:52:03.22
Adz
Yeah.
00:52:06.05
youcantcompthis
So for example, another.
00:52:07.56
Adz
There'd be a Kobe, there'd be a Kobe in this set as well, because 98.
00:52:11.13
youcantcompthis
I actually haven't read through the checklist, but there's a very good chance that he, he should be in the checklist and there's a very good chance that he is in it. But like another comp to this is the one-on-one tatum we just spoke about. Like, would you rather have this Pippin one-on-one or the green kaboom?
00:52:24.77
Adz
Yep, good point.
00:52:25.95
youcantcompthis
I'm probably no disrespect to Scotty.
00:52:25.99
Adz
Yep, good point, like.
00:52:29.13
youcantcompthis
Like I love Scotty and everything he did, but that green kaboom is um much more aesthetically pleasing than this bad boy.
00:52:37.52
Adz
I tend to agree.
00:52:38.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:52:39.44
Adz
I tend to agree. That one of one, yeah, the green colour match. i'm a bit in um I'm green with envy for the colour match of the Celtics, of how good the colour match is. But yeah, like I get what you mean.
00:52:51.48
youcantcompthis
So yeah,
00:52:52.40
Adz
As far as one of ones go, it's not that it's not setting the world on fire.
00:52:56.96
youcantcompthis
but still very important to the hobby. So that, yeah.
00:52:59.33
Adz
Of course, yeah. Yeah.
00:53:01.65
youcantcompthis
ah This next story is from our friend at Eric Whiteback, who is not actually Eric Whiteback who sold his account, but yeah, the the artist known as yeah.
00:53:09.03
Adz
formerly known as Eric Whiteback, now known as some...
00:53:13.95
youcantcompthis
So actually the new dude, put his face up on the account this week. So it's no secret that he's taken over it. That's small aside.
00:53:20.93
Adz
You what'd be funny? If his name was actually Eric, sold it to someone named Eric.
00:53:26.51
youcantcompthis
That he was christened Eric or he changed his name to Eric.
00:53:29.19
Adz
Imagine you go down there and go to the birth thesis, like the registry and say, I'd like to change my name to Eric, why? Because I bought a Twitter account, at Eric.
00:53:35.24
youcantcompthis
At, at Eric white. Yeah. Thank you very much. Put an app before that. Yeah.
00:53:42.17
Adz
Big news.
00:53:43.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so I'm very much on the fence about this. I thought we would talk about it because of who is being featured in the card. It's a Michael Jordan Jumpman PMG that they're going to make out of the Skybox Metal Universe. This is going to be an unlicensed product. And this is where I'm a little bit hung up on the flip side. This is also really clever because the Jumpman uniform itself wasn't in an NBA uniform. It was in a Nike red and black uniform. So this is kind of.
00:54:11.50
Adz
Mmm.
00:54:12.10
youcantcompthis
a very clever place to put this insanely iconic picture onto a card set that they're also going to do is red number to 100 and the green number to 10 pmg so look I think these are going to be very heavy collected add I don't think we need to sort of say that you know too much more but
00:54:25.56
Adz
Wow.
00:54:28.97
Adz
Yes.
00:54:32.16
Adz
I think it's pretty obvious these are going to be sought after, for sure.
00:54:35.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Is that a good thing? Is it a bad thing? You know, where do you sit with this card? Are you going to be buying some Skybox to try and hit a Jordan PMG?
00:54:42.48
Adz
just to try and get this card.
00:54:44.31
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:54:46.54
Adz
Buy a a box and see how you go.
00:54:49.18
youcantcompthis
Is that what you're saying?
00:54:49.63
Adz
Eh, yeah, I would, i'd I'd be interested. Depends if the the price of the boxes are driven crazy up but because of this product in there. Maybe I'd, yeah, think a bit differently, but.
00:55:04.63
youcantcompthis
Well, generally the unlicensed is 40%, 50% of what you're paying for fully licensed. So, yeah.
00:55:11.55
Adz
Yeah.
00:55:14.74
youcantcompthis
Anyway.
00:55:17.51
youcantcompthis
All right, look, i'm I'm very much undecided about this. i I think that they've done a really good job creating a chase card that people will want to buy. And just the fact that you were even contemplating buying a box, I think they've done their job.
00:55:31.65
Adz
They have, I'm a sucker for this stuff.
00:55:31.68
youcantcompthis
That's what they're supposed to do.
00:55:35.27
Adz
I am, I am a sucker for it.
00:55:35.53
youcantcompthis
If it's, if it's good, yeah, that's totally fine. I'm, I'm totally fine with this, you know? So, Hey, actually just a really quick segue on this and then we'll go to a quick break.
00:55:40.26
Adz
Yeah.
00:55:45.30
youcantcompthis
The man who took the original photo of Jordan in this jump man position sued Nike unsuccessfully because they took his original jump man photos that he sold to Nike, by the way.
00:55:58.35
Adz
Well, that's dumb.
00:56:00.79
youcantcompthis
reshot the photos in a more aesthetic. And like, for example, this photo was shot by the second night photographer.
00:56:06.01
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:08.51
youcantcompthis
But he said, no, that's actually my, you know, my, but my proprietary work. You know, this is my original idea that you've now.
00:56:15.04
Adz
You sold it!
00:56:16.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So he he's never won.
00:56:18.96
Adz
No, I imagine you wouldn't eat it.
00:56:21.27
youcantcompthis
Anyway, small piece of useless information for you.
00:56:21.44
Adz
Well, you never know, right? You never, yeah. Oh, that's interesting.
00:56:27.08
youcantcompthis
All right. Time for a break and we'll be back.
00:56:29.52
Adz
Right.
00:56:34.63
youcantcompthis
We are back. Adam, this is our last little run and there's six things here.
00:56:38.89
Adz
We're in the the home stretch.
00:56:42.07
youcantcompthis
So let's see if we can do these six quick hitting.
00:56:46.72
Adz
It's like a fast five, but it's a fast six.
00:56:50.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah, let's see how we go.
00:56:51.81
Adz
All right.
00:56:52.74
youcantcompthis
Let's try not to segue. Maybe that's why don't we keep our objectives small.
00:56:58.10
Adz
Sure. Let's try that. Could be a top 10. Anyway.
00:57:03.13
youcantcompthis
This is a feel good story for me. This is from at Darren Ravel on Twitter. 20 years after Kamala Anthony told me he thought he should get paid for his Syracuse Jersey sales. He now will. As Mitchell and Ness announces plans to release an orange mellow Q's Jersey sale very soon. So I'm all about this. I think that young men
00:57:23.25
Adz
Yeah.
00:57:25.04
youcantcompthis
being collegiate athletes and not getting paid for their likeness on singlets, in video games, in all the other promotional stuff that they did. In addition to that, all the sports gambling that happened all the way through the 80s, 90s and 2000s, like that's some nonsense.
00:57:40.51
Adz
Yeah.
00:57:40.69
youcantcompthis
And look, I'm all about also young men getting an education for free. And I get that whole win-win thing, but I think we can all pretty well agree that there were some liberties being taken when the NCAA is a billion dollar business and these guys aren't getting paid. Like you see the dirty side of it. So I'm very happy for this.
00:58:00.01
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:58:01.84
youcantcompthis
This is a great feel good story for me. Uh, the real question is Adam is, would you buy a throwback Carmelo or is there another throwback Jersey that comes to mind that you'd be interested in picking up?
00:58:07.43
Adz
The Syracuse University, probably not.
00:58:16.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Like any, any college Jersey that is there like an old college player, like back in the day that you like quite used to enjoy.
00:58:24.85
Adz
Oh my God. or a Or a player that i I followed that I would like their college jersey, i.e.
00:58:30.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, sure.
00:58:30.30
Adz
Michael Jordan's North Carolina, or like, well I was like, I wouldn't pick a college one, but like a low emeritan, like a Kobe, his high school jersey, sure.
00:58:31.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that'd be pretty sweet, right? Yeah.
00:58:38.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:58:41.15
Adz
But that's not applying here, yeah.
00:58:41.88
youcantcompthis
I don't know if they've got a high school agreement, but yeah, yeah.
00:58:43.91
Adz
Yeah, but you know what I mean, yeah.
00:58:45.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah, totally.
00:58:45.70
Adz
But yeah, for sure, like some of some some of the, like a Davidson ah Steph Curry jersey.
00:58:53.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yep.
00:58:53.77
Adz
Who knows, yeah. Yep, maybe in North Carolina, Jordan Jersey.
00:58:59.15
youcantcompthis
I'm going to nerd out here.
00:59:00.87
Adz
Okay.
00:59:01.80
youcantcompthis
I'm going to say Tyus Edney. I used to love that guy.
00:59:04.40
Adz
Oh, wow. Okay.
00:59:05.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And I used to like copy, you know, the way he used to like dribble the ball and pass the ball and all this type of stuff. It was like this whole sort of weird obsession I had for this dude. So I think if there was a college or even early and NBA, Tyus Edney, I would probably.
00:59:20.47
Adz
Actually, ah Michigan State, Magic Johnson, Michigan State.
00:59:20.53
youcantcompthis
Grab one of those.
00:59:24.62
youcantcompthis
Oh, that's actually pretty awesome.
00:59:28.21
Adz
Yeah.
00:59:28.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:59:29.05
Adz
Yep.
00:59:29.92
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
00:59:30.09
Adz
Yep. For sure.
00:59:32.28
youcantcompthis
All righty. Now this is actually, again, something that I put together on socials a few weeks back, but we've just had a really busy schedule the last few weeks with content. So this is just gone by the wayside, but we have to talk about this because.
00:59:41.59
Adz
We do.
00:59:43.46
youcantcompthis
So if there's three reasons we have to talk about this one, it's, it's entertainment too. It's funny. And there is a funny part to this story. And also three, this is not going away. We're going to be dealing with this for the next 20 years. So like, just get used to it, you know, at Legion hoops. Two individuals have been arrested for conspire conspiring to defraud a sports betting company.
00:59:58.92
Adz
Yep.
01:00:05.62
youcantcompthis
One of the individuals placed a $80,000 parlay on the under of John T Porter's points, rebounds, assists, three steals and blocks, the same game that Porter intentionally took himself out of the game. And I'm using air quotes here due to illness. We we've already covered this.
01:00:20.32
Adz
Yep, it wasn't feeling well. Yeah, we covered this a while ago, but this is yep.
01:00:23.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah. The bet was successful and netted a profit of $1.04 million. dollars Now we also covered this on our Facebook page. And basically the comedy part of this is that the guy was arrested and he had cash and travelers checks. And guess what country he was fleeing to.
01:00:49.72
Adz
Traveling to or flee or fleeing to this it was coming here wasn't he?
01:00:49.96
youcantcompthis
This is not a joke. Yeah, this is not a joke, by the way. this is He was coming to Australia. Yeah. So the joke is like, he was going to hook up with, um, the card pawn scammer who's also hiding out in Carlton, Melbourne, Australia.
01:01:01.44
Adz
One, yeah like yeah, that's it, we've become...
01:01:03.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Hey, do you reckon cardboard is going to come to, um, the hobby hangout?
01:01:07.74
Adz
Oh my God, can you imagine there'd be just unbelievable trades everywhere?
01:01:11.94
youcantcompthis
That's right. Ultra rare 1984 sealed Fleer is for sale at a bargain price. Everyone snap it up at the hobby hangout.
01:01:18.93
Adz
Oh God, God. ah could That could be our question for when we go to the the hobby hangout asking investors, have you seen Card Pawn today?
01:01:21.92
youcantcompthis
and
01:01:27.40
youcantcompthis
Have you seen Juan?
01:01:29.17
Adz
juan One, one, he's on the loose. Has he got any of his associates here?
01:01:35.39
youcantcompthis
Juan and John Te Porta's handler, are they in the house?
01:01:39.48
Adz
In the house, comes in three, so who's the next one?
01:01:44.23
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, I've had my fun.
01:01:45.24
Adz
All right, next.
01:01:46.56
youcantcompthis
ah Penini's future. So, nah, I haven't.
01:01:50.38
Adz
You said you'd had your fun. this
01:01:55.14
youcantcompthis
Panini have made a huge acquisition. They have signed the PFL and MMA league to their card collecting roster. ah You will get the signatures of the likes of some completely unknown male and female MMA athletes.
01:02:13.12
Adz
Awesome! Get on it.
01:02:16.61
youcantcompthis
I'm not too sure where all this is going, but look, so my serious take on this though, is that I think Panini have clearly seen the writing on the wall and they're trying to get into some other sports and get some prospects maybe. Uh, and get some things that people are going to be interested in.
01:02:29.21
Adz
This is, um...
01:02:31.26
youcantcompthis
The other thing they've done too, it's like a Euro league product. And in that product is Luca autographs, Paul Gasol. So we're talking about chase cards before like the PMGs you'll go out and buy a box of sky box.
01:02:36.74
Adz
Yep.
01:02:41.48
youcantcompthis
Would I go and buy a box of Euro league to get a Luca autograph? Yeah, I probably would, man. So.
01:02:47.30
Adz
Interesting. Nice little angle to to try and... um Yeah.
01:02:53.74
youcantcompthis
So in all seriousness, this actually makes me a little bit sad to know that this is kind of what Panini is going to be like dealing with.
01:03:03.67
Adz
Yeah.
01:03:03.97
youcantcompthis
It's like when you hear a professional athlete say, I used to fly chartered planes. Now I'm in a bus going around the country playing in these like dusty gyms. You know, like, I feel like Panini is now catching the bus selling their cards in dusty gyms instead of, you know, on the stage at some massive arena.
01:03:22.33
Adz
Yeah, yeah, it's poppin' any poppin any
01:03:25.20
youcantcompthis
Brutal.
01:03:27.96
youcantcompthis
Now this one, if we've covered this already, I do apologize, but again, I'm pretty sure we haven't. This is from fanatics. They've got their own collectibles marketplace. Have we done this?
01:03:37.65
Adz
Um, I don't think so.
01:03:39.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
01:03:39.45
Adz
Um, I know I tagged you in the, uh, a thing about eBay and PSA.
01:03:44.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
01:03:44.84
Adz
I don't know. It seems like the order that there's some, there's some stuff brewing, but fanatics have got, is it a little, little marketplace where they're doing auctions and stuff?
01:03:53.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So basically they're taking over PWCC and then it won't be called that anymore.
01:03:57.65
Adz
Yeah.
01:03:59.00
youcantcompthis
They're going to be rebranding it to fanatics, which I think is actually a good move to be honest, because taking you over someone's.
01:04:01.02
Adz
Yep.
01:04:05.22
Adz
PWCC had a, yeah.
01:04:06.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Like well-established, you know, processes, like I think actually the processes on PWCC are fine, but rebranding it to something that we now know is going to be the mothership makes a whole lot of sense.
01:04:13.77
Adz
Yeah.
01:04:21.03
Adz
Agreed.
01:04:21.22
youcantcompthis
I think the other thing too, in that space too, is then you've got the combined eBay PSA vault. And that's what they're also talking about here.
01:04:28.22
Adz
Yes.
01:04:29.88
youcantcompthis
So then you can trade card scan, the concierge services, they've got like the whole thing. so
01:04:35.70
Adz
Yeah, yeah. They're trying to get this huge one stop shop thing happening.
01:04:37.35
youcantcompthis
oh
01:04:40.34
Adz
i I do think so.
01:04:40.63
youcantcompthis
This is all part of that, isn't it? Like, yeah. And then, yeah, there's another, there's another note here about they're doing auctions with Southby's, but my understanding of that is that the Southby's will do very particular items.
01:04:43.06
Adz
Yeah.
01:04:51.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Here we go for high-end stuff.
01:04:51.89
Adz
Yeah.
01:04:53.30
youcantcompthis
And then just for your regular Joe type eBay, you know, to higher end stuff, you'll use the PWCC slash fanatics platform on that there.
01:04:53.80
Adz
Yep.
01:05:01.42
youcantcompthis
So yeah.
01:05:01.59
Adz
Yeah.
01:05:02.30
youcantcompthis
Yep.
01:05:03.01
Adz
ye But it just seems like they're really, yeah, they're just trying to reestablish sort of where, where the, the outlets are as far as.
01:05:03.60
youcantcompthis
All right. Add.
01:05:11.04
youcantcompthis
They've got a plan and they're definitely sticking to it.
01:05:12.02
Adz
Yep. Yep.
01:05:13.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
01:05:14.06
Adz
Yep. For sure. Next.
01:05:16.20
youcantcompthis
All right. Now this next one is actually from a parody website, which is ironically turned out to be true. So if you need a bit of a giggle, follow at, I'll just spell this one.
01:05:28.41
Adz
Lameme Lameme James Lameme
01:05:30.99
youcantcompthis
Lameem James, thank you Adam for saving me. That was going to be very awkward.
01:05:34.70
Adz
James. So it's L E M E M E underscore James on Instagram.
01:05:38.84
youcantcompthis
I was going to call it.
01:05:42.59
youcantcompthis
Lamimi, that's what I was going to say. So thanks. Yeah, that's better.
01:05:46.87
Adz
Lameme James.
01:05:49.15
youcantcompthis
All right. So we have got here. A priest, Lauderdale, 1997, metal universe, PMG PSA five.
01:06:00.64
Adz
I
01:06:01.31
youcantcompthis
We have then got a Michael Jordan SP signatures card. Beckett 9.5 graded autograph 10. Now these cards literally sold for the exact same price. So the question I was talking to you about this offline today is, do you buy a card because it's a particular card and disregarding what the player is?
01:06:13.91
Adz
love it.
01:06:18.70
Adz
Yep.
01:06:21.48
youcantcompthis
So the modern example, of this is, you know, do you buy ah the the crappiest kaboom that you can get your hands on, but you buy it because it's a kaboom.
01:06:24.60
Adz
Kaboom.
01:06:33.42
youcantcompthis
And then on the other hand here, I actually, it's a bit hard for me to really explain this out and in a very, in a way that sounds sensible, but On the other hand, you've got a Michael Jordan signature who is the better player. Is it a lesser card? I mean, I'm not even actually that convinced it's a lesser card, to be honest, but. So I think for me to sort of explain this out a little bit further, I actually think that the, the Jordan went for unders.
01:07:00.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So the Jordan sold for 7,300 and the PMG sold for seven, eight.
01:07:01.16
Adz
Yeah.
01:07:04.66
Adz
That's insane.
01:07:06.82
youcantcompthis
but obviously ah But obviously there's a collector out there that was just waiting for that PMG to come up and literally said, I will pay whatever it takes to get that card. And well, obviously there was two collectors out there that said that because...
01:07:19.22
Adz
Wow.
01:07:23.31
youcantcompthis
So what are you going for in this instance, man? Are you going for the super rare card that only comes up once every 10 years? Or are you going for the autograph that's of the tried and trued, but there's a lot of them out there?
01:07:33.96
Adz
I'm getting the auto. I'm taking the auto. I'm taking a Michael Jordan autograph over a, over a, a green gem PSA five of a.
01:07:38.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
01:07:47.58
Adz
Yep. Yep.
01:07:49.68
youcantcompthis
and And just to like my response to that is that I think in this instance, there's no real right or wrong answer. But I think that's what's also super brilliant about this hobby is that there's people that would go actually that priest Lord Adele is almost like a one of one in the most important
01:08:06.29
Adz
Yeah. Oh, for sure.
01:08:08.00
youcantcompthis
in the most important set ever.
01:08:10.05
Adz
If that was the only PMG you owned, would you be happy with that?
01:08:16.76
youcantcompthis
Look to be honest.
01:08:16.93
Adz
So you didn't, you didn't own a Michael Jordan autograph either, right? And you like, I need one card. I would, one of those.
01:08:23.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
01:08:24.35
Adz
Would you be happy if you walked away going, it's all right. The other guy got the Jordan. I got the PMG of priest Lord of Dale.
01:08:30.83
youcantcompthis
Like if I had a choice, I think I would probably go towards the Jordan, but in terms of
01:08:34.72
Adz
Yeah.
01:08:35.30
youcantcompthis
collectability, like I, there's a part of me that also understands it too. And, but I think for me, that's more of like an extortion piece where you're like, right, I'm going to hang onto this until someone makes me like a grandfather offer, or I can trade this for like, I'm way trading upwards and you know how much I love a good trade.
01:08:44.80
Adz
How many people have got this card? Yeah.
01:08:55.55
Adz
Good up trade to roll it.
01:08:55.74
youcantcompthis
And I think that, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
01:08:59.73
Adz
Roll it?
01:09:00.96
youcantcompthis
Roll it.
01:09:01.47
Adz
Roll it.
01:09:02.05
youcantcompthis
We're only rolling it.
01:09:02.91
Adz
Rolling it on its corners. No wonder it's a PSA 5.
01:09:07.54
youcantcompthis
I feel bad for ending the show on this actually. So we have to get one more story. So WNBA news, Cameron Brink, who is in the same draft class as Caitlin Clark, unfortunately tore her ACL in the...
01:09:20.34
Adz
That's why you joked about her being the injured one for the Olympics. It's already happened.
01:09:25.44
youcantcompthis
I don't reckon Cameron Brink would have been on the roster.
01:09:27.60
Adz
I don't think she's going to the Olympics anyway.
01:09:30.06
youcantcompthis
No.
01:09:30.67
Adz
No, even if she didn't wreck her ACL.
01:09:34.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
01:09:35.64
Adz
Yep.
01:09:37.34
youcantcompthis
All right. I'm just scrolling furiously right now to try and find something.
01:09:39.39
Adz
now Now you need some news.
01:09:41.89
youcantcompthis
All right. I've, I've got something. It's better than ending on an ACL injury on Instagram at SWAT dot team dot cards. They have a beautiful Dyson Daniels recon numbered to 10. It's that clear, clear patch autograph where it's got the draft logo in the background. Fantastic card.
01:10:05.51
Adz
to Can I end on, yeah I Instagram too, but I used our friends at Cardletter.
01:10:10.09
youcantcompthis
What do you got for me, mate?
01:10:11.25
Adz
I have an eye-catching sale, Immaculate 2022 collection, Dirk Nowitzki, Nikoli Jokic, Jewel Auto Logo Man, Raw sold for $50,400 on June 20th.
01:10:13.59
youcantcompthis
Talk to me.
01:10:24.39
youcantcompthis
Okay.
01:10:31.75
Adz
So that was a couple of days ago.
01:10:34.55
youcantcompthis
Hmm.
01:10:35.54
Adz
on PWCC, yeah.
01:10:35.56
youcantcompthis
Okay. Right.
01:10:38.48
Adz
Two amazing big men of basketball, Jokic and Nowitzki.
01:10:43.09
youcantcompthis
So that really makes me think that Jordan went for Unders.
01:10:48.94
Adz
Which Jordan?
01:10:50.30
youcantcompthis
That Jordan would, we did the comp with the priest lord Ado.
01:10:51.56
Adz
Oh, the comp, yeah, yeah, the priest, Lord of Dale one, yeah, yeah. But these are logo, this is a logo man one of one, this is a not a Jordan, like a Jordan one of one is a million dollar card.
01:11:04.24
youcantcompthis
Still, just seems to me like to get a ah Jordan 9.5 for less than 8,000 US, that seems like. Pretty nice little deal.
01:11:15.57
youcantcompthis
All right, I think the fact that I'm talking about this like a couple of times now, I think it knows where I'm lying. I think I'm going to the Jordan and don't worry about the extortion trait.
01:11:24.27
Adz
Yeah, definitely the Jordan.
01:11:25.97
youcantcompthis
Oh, actually, right. Let's finish the show on this. You'll you'll appreciate this.
01:11:28.92
Adz
Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
01:11:33.01
youcantcompthis
ah Bill Simmons suggested that the Celtics should use their first round pick to draft Brony James and then use the draft equity of Brony to do like an extortion trade with the Lakers and say, Hey, you want Bronnie James? You need to give us like a good veteran for him back and then we'll give you Bronnie.
01:11:54.05
Adz
That is so it such a Boston thing to do.
01:11:56.55
youcantcompthis
How funny is that though?
01:11:57.80
Adz
No, it's not funny at all. Actually, be that's a little bit funny.
01:12:00.23
youcantcompthis
Can I be honest with you? I think 20 teams in the league should be doing this.
01:12:04.32
Adz
Trying to extort LeBron.
01:12:05.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's stupid not to draft him. If he's available at 20, fine. I'll take him at 20. Now you give me something good for him.
01:12:15.63
youcantcompthis
And now he's got JJ ready to, you know, basically be his puppet.
01:12:18.35
Adz
Oh, we didn't have it we didn't even talk about JJ getting, and yeah.
01:12:20.52
youcantcompthis
I did, I left it out of the seat on purpose, mate. Just basically to mess with you.
01:12:23.29
Adz
Oh, good. I've had enough people question me what I think about it. So no, neither do I.
01:12:26.78
youcantcompthis
I'm not, I'm not even going to ask you. I don't care. I don't need to, what do we, what do we need to talk about?
01:12:31.30
Adz
Neither do I.
01:12:35.38
Adz
I'm surprised they didn't announce it on JJ and LeBron's podcast.
01:12:40.84
youcantcompthis
And he, I'm surprised he didn't do a TV show for it and make an announcement.
01:12:43.07
Adz
That's it. The announcement, the decision.
01:12:45.53
youcantcompthis
ah
01:12:50.02
youcantcompthis
Yeah.
01:12:50.39
Adz
Oh, goodness. All right, there, that's, there we go. We we got through like eight topics then.
01:12:55.50
youcantcompthis
Beautiful. Thanks everyone for listening.
01:12:58.02
Adz
Thanks for for sticking a lot sticking in for the for the, staying along for the ride.
01:12:59.74
youcantcompthis
Yep.
01:13:01.94
Adz
There we go.
01:13:02.43
youcantcompthis
That's right.
01:13:03.09
Adz
Got it all out.
01:13:03.70
youcantcompthis
Yep.
01:13:04.03
Adz
And um yeah, I've got the hobby hangout in a week. Hopefully see a bunch of you that are down in Melbourne at that.
01:13:11.85
youcantcompthis
Yep.
01:13:12.25
Adz
And yeah, we'll catch you all soon.