Episode 151: Post Hobby Hangout, Wemby Nebula, PSA Vending Machine, Lebron Extension,

Episode 151 Adam and Russell reflect on the Hobby Hangout and share some listeners stories about the HH. For a recap, click here Hobby Hangout recap.

We also discuss
PSA vending machine in vegas
Lebron extension
Adam's boys extension
PSA vs GEM grading company
1/1 choice nebula wemby pulled
Walmart marketplace
MJ eye catching sale
Jayson tatums contract extension  and Tatum extension part 2
Paul george for SGA trade recap
AJ Griffin traded

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Transcript

00:11.24
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 151 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We're your hosts, Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson. We're back from the hobby hangout.

00:24.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we are back and what a fantastic experience it was at the Hobby Hangout and what was your favorite memories or favorite moments from the Hobby Hangout?

00:27.94
Adz
That was great. Yeah, a lot of fun. It was good.

00:36.64
Adz
It was just a nice day to get out and talk to people. It was ah was good.

00:39.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:41.88
Adz
I don't know, the layout this time was really good. um There's still the audio with, unless you're in the right zone, you couldn't hear the stage. ah But I did go past, I think at the most opportune times, Lane was giving a bit of a demonstration on preparing the cards for grading.

00:58.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:58.63
Adz
ah That was cool. Speaking of which, we did catch up with Lane, which was awesome. And we've got to set something else up to go into.

01:02.04
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:05.62
Adz
in depth with that that app launch. But yeah, seeing seeing a lot of friends of the show, I caught up with, I think we both did, we caught up with a lot of people. So it was nice.

01:14.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:15.88
Adz
It was just a good day all around.

01:18.83
youcantcompthis
I would agree with you. I think it's probably the perfect time for us just to go into our first little segment of today's show, which is literally just to say to people, show us your pickups. What did you think? Well, what needed to be fixed? I think the immediately when you walked into the hobby hangout this year, the feedback last year was it was too dark. It was too gloomy. You couldn't even see the cards and they'd hired a whole bunch of extra lighting this year. And that really changed the complexity of the day.

01:46.65
Adz
Yep.

01:48.03
youcantcompthis
And in a really strange way too, it felt like the venue was larger because it was a lot more well lit.

01:48.56
Adz
Yep.

01:54.05
Adz
The lighting was great. And I think it was spaced out a little bit better though, as well.

01:56.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

01:59.12
Adz
I think it was a double prong thing.

02:00.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And not that I was standing there counting the tables, but there was sort of a general feeling that maybe there was a couple of less tables this year, but that was actually a positive thing because there were so many people there.

02:07.66
Adz
Yeah.

02:09.92
youcantcompthis
It just meant with the larger amount of people there, they could actually get around tables and navigate around a little bit and interesting feedback that has really got nothing to do with the hobby hangout at all.

02:15.47
Adz
Exactly.

02:19.61
youcantcompthis
But some people go to those events and actually feel quite claustrophobic.

02:19.94
Adz
Hmm.

02:24.19
Adz
Yeah.

02:24.24
youcantcompthis
And as a Malvernian, post COVID, I'm not actually someone who feels claustrophobic, but I have to admit post COVID, that does sort of come to my mind a bit. I'm like, oh, there's just a few too many people around here for my Larkings, you know, these days. So I get that whole sort of concept of that.

02:37.19
Adz
Yeah.

02:38.77
youcantcompthis
So I i agree with that definitely.

02:41.19
Adz
Yeah.

02:41.81
youcantcompthis
My really early impression about the Hobby Hangout was that at the start, I was like, oh, there wasn't many people here. And then 15 minutes after the doors opened, it was just so full of people.

02:53.41
Adz
Yeah, it was good.

02:53.75
youcantcompthis
You know, you could barely, you know, walk around and then it just sort of just continuously, you know, people came and went and then sort of the next way it came along. And I thought that the showing was really good. And I remember at the previous hobby hangout vendors were kind of complaining. It was a little bit too slow.

03:08.94
Adz
Mmm.

03:09.58
youcantcompthis
There wasn't that much cash being sort of moved back and forward, but I heard no one saying that this year, it was the exact opposite. though Everyone said they had a very, very good day.

03:18.03
Adz
Vendors were buying.

03:19.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

03:20.47
Adz
people People were buying and selling.

03:23.31
youcantcompthis
So I'll walk you into that.

03:23.47
Adz
It was it was very active, yeah.

03:24.31
youcantcompthis
So tell us tell us your theory your theory about vendors buying and selling and and what happens with that.

03:28.88
Adz
um Well, well we've been we've been saying it for a while now. I think it's ah it's that time of the year as well. Like it's that end of season deep off, I guess. People are looking to to move stuff along.

03:38.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

03:41.31
Adz
I think it's healthier hobby-wise. to see vendors buying cards. It's a good time of the year to do it. um Maybe it isn't a low time. But by buying cards, they're actually encouraging the ability to sell cards. Because some people want to sell their cards so they can buy more cards.

04:02.49
youcantcompthis
hundreder yeah

04:03.19
Adz
And I think at the previous Hobby Hangout, there was one, maybe two vendors buying. It was very limited.

04:08.38
youcantcompthis
yeah

04:09.97
Adz
And he on the weekend, it was very much um every second stall had someone buying.

04:16.39
youcantcompthis
There was a store that had a large neon lineup saying buying, and I thought that was to me really interesting.

04:16.83
Adz
It's felt like, yeah. Yeah. We are buying. Yeah.

04:20.99
youcantcompthis
yeah so

04:21.73
Adz
Yeah.

04:23.39
youcantcompthis
And I also do wonder a little bit too, you know, we've seen the the trends on Cardlot about the last two years, you know, how much it's dipped down. ah Some people out there actually is thinking, hey, actually now, now is a good time to be getting out there and buying in bulk and, you know, buying up some nice cards because, you know, we have just had two years of reduction.

04:29.24
Adz
hu

04:36.75
Adz
Yeah. Offers deals.

04:39.27
youcantcompthis
So, you know, look,

04:39.79
Adz
Yep.

04:41.77
youcantcompthis
I had a really, really good time. Uh, I agree with you. We went around and spoke to a whole bunch of people that we, you know, that we wanted to.

04:48.37
Adz
Yeah.

04:48.87
youcantcompthis
And then from a personal point of view, I thought the podcast was better this year. Cause we were out on the floor and, um, you know, my OCD with the acoustics is was pretty well known to to people who listened to the show. And there was acoustic paneling in the roof and that made a world of difference.

05:01.56
Adz
Yeah.

05:04.24
youcantcompthis
And, um, the yeah, the podcast wasn't, yeah, it wasn't our usual

05:06.31
Adz
That corner that that spot we were in was very, very, very nice. Audio wise. Yeah.

05:11.87
youcantcompthis
audio content quality as it normally is, but at the same time, it was very, very good for a live event. So I'm um'm absolutely ecstatic about that. I did have some feedback from people that I was talking a little bit faster than I usually do.

05:19.68
Adz
yeah

05:24.31
Adz
Yeah.

05:24.38
youcantcompthis
And, uh, some allegations that I've been hanging around with Peter Dutton's son, I can completely deny all of these rumors. I was just very, very excited to be there. And I was just feeling a bit of adrenaline, I think. Yeah.

05:36.92
Adz
Possible, possible.

05:37.82
youcantcompthis
yeah

05:38.06
Adz
it's It's also a very weird setup, like the way the mic's positioned is sort of like, do we need to reach, I guess,

05:43.84
youcantcompthis
Speak a bit louder. Exactly.

05:45.02
Adz
speak a bit louder, be a bit more forceful.

05:45.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

05:47.06
Adz
it was yeah like it was It's definitely a different environment when you're doing it live.

05:47.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

05:52.06
Adz
um Yeah, it was it was good. It was a good experience and it was good to see just people walking past trying to figure out what we were doing.

06:01.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

06:03.13
Adz
Some people were trying to interact with us and we couldn't, we had to keep talking, so apologies to anyone that tried.

06:07.06
youcantcompthis
We did a lot of sign language and yeah.

06:09.49
Adz
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly right.

06:11.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

06:11.31
Adz
It was, I don't know, I've i've come away with it with some ah some ideas for for next time. I actually had a bit of a ah sidebar with with our friend, Joe, um about ideas for the next hobby hangout that will will we'll have a brain a brainstorming set.

06:25.94
youcantcompthis
Let's do it now.

06:27.75
Adz
well

06:28.39
youcantcompthis
Let's do it now. Yeah.

06:30.02
Adz
we were going to ah We were thinking of um maybe setting up our own standard and doing it there and having and having sort of a our own little trade um box.

06:42.07
youcantcompthis
Sure.

06:42.49
Adz
So we're not selling cards, we're just trading them.

06:44.45
youcantcompthis
That'd be fun.

06:45.58
Adz
That'd be something fun.

06:46.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

06:47.12
Adz
ah have ah Have obviously some some some bits and pieces for sale and obviously call that pocket change because I mean, on point for branding. Yeah, and then obviously doing maybe some Q and&A stuff for the pod, maybe do an extended a little bit of footage so that we could put that up on socials.

07:05.16
youcantcompthis
Yep.

07:07.31
Adz
I don't know, maybe we do we we do have a table and and and sit there for the day and sort of and and sort of have people come up and chat to us um at ah at a permanent spot at the hobby hangout next time.

07:19.82
youcantcompthis
Sounds fun.

07:20.69
Adz
Yeah.

07:21.28
youcantcompthis
I like the idea of having a traders box. Yeah.

07:23.52
Adz
Yeah, bit of fun.

07:24.46
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, Joe Fu, I think in earlier start time, kick it off at 10 to 10.30.

07:29.31
Adz
Amen.

07:30.13
youcantcompthis
Bump in time needs to move up as well as most vendors are there by 8am, but needed to wait until 8.30 to bump in. Allow an earlier entrance into the trading room. It would be great for ticket holders. Then open up the show 35 to 45 minutes later. It would be cool. So I think what he's trying to say there is let the vendors in.

07:44.68
Adz
Oh, I like that.

07:46.58
youcantcompthis
earlier, but also let traders come in and sort of pay for an extra ticket. Now the Melbourne Card Fair, I believe you can do that you pay an extra five or $10 and you get like an early bird top ticket.

07:52.94
Adz
Oh, that's an amazing, yeah.

07:56.72
youcantcompthis
So yeah.

07:57.01
Adz
kick Can you imagine like a green a green room environment where there's a space, the dedicated trading zone opens before the the rest of the show.

08:05.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

08:06.62
Adz
That means everybody that's waiting to get in has their cards with them and can talk and trade before they go into the show.

08:16.00
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

08:16.94
Adz
That's a good idea, I like that.

08:21.08
youcantcompthis
Matty Yuga, I don't know if I could last another couple of hours as a vendor. So I think that's the the pro and the con of that. And look, it is a really long day and I don't know how you felt that I just felt it was 10 o'clock and the next time I looked at my watch, it was 4pm.

08:27.57
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

08:34.40
youcantcompthis
So, and I came home that night and I was absolutely, I was ready for bed.

08:36.71
Adz
I was gonna say, i'm not i'm not one to I'm not one to comment and stuff like this, because I used to do the Penny Arcade Expo, which is three days from 7 a.m.

08:38.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

08:46.14
Adz
till midnight, and running that stand was was mental.

08:47.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

08:51.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

08:51.72
Adz
ah like wait would but it was It was taxing, I get it.

08:54.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

08:55.12
Adz
um But if you're doing a big show, I mean, the hobby hang, it's supposed to be one of the bigger ones in, in town. So maybe, maybe that is maybe.

09:05.12
youcantcompthis
So, so your advice to Medi Yugo is basically have a spoon of concrete and harden up.

09:06.12
Adz
Yeah. Hard nut. Yeah.

09:09.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

09:09.85
Adz
That's it. Either that, either that, or if we're going to have our stand, we can have other people share the stand with us.

09:10.47
youcantcompthis
Okay.

09:16.49
Adz
Have a big stand that we share so you can rotate it.

09:18.50
youcantcompthis
The part-timers.

09:19.29
Adz
Yeah.

09:19.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah. yes Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

09:20.62
Adz
Yeah.

09:23.11
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, Beau Summer. First off, just started listening to you guys. Beau, thank you so much for listening. We really appreciate every click and loving it. Don't know how my family feels about listening to the pod in the car, but screw them. So I would say yeah we do try and keep it family friendly, and I hope your family does enjoy it.

09:34.55
Adz
but

09:39.97
youcantcompthis
I've never been to a hobby hangout show before and wasn't sure if they'd come back to Brisbane, so I decided to fly down to check it out. Now, I clarified that that was down to Sydney, not to Melbourne.

09:47.97
Adz
Ah.

09:48.08
youcantcompthis
Personally being an introvert, like probably most of us, in my opinion, it was a little bit too crowded, but to really enjoy it properly. I don't know how you would fix that, maybe a larger space, but it was cool to put some names to faces and pick up some nice cards. A hundred percent, mate. I think all of those things I agree on.

10:02.12
Adz
Yeah.

10:03.75
youcantcompthis
Look, I think it's a really delicate balance between having something financially viable and and not.

10:06.88
Adz
Yeah.

10:08.20
youcantcompthis
And so having people in it, I get it. But at the same time, I think that's also a, you know, a marker that the hobbies thrive in. It's successful.

10:17.08
Adz
yeah

10:17.09
youcantcompthis
Um, found a lot of vendors, not all were overpriced and I get, they have to make a profit, but some were just taking the P I S S glad I went though and keen for one in Brisbane. And I would say that's a, a really like common thing that's coming through to, you know, come to other cities, come to Brisbane, come to Perth, you know, the hobby hangout people, ah you know, want you to thirsty for it.

10:31.62
Adz
Mmm.

10:36.07
youcantcompthis
So, um, yeah.

10:40.37
Adz
Yeah. I don't know, a lot of the the vendors, and i get I get the taking, yeah, taking the mickey, so to speak, um side of it, but you do, realize like, they they do have a little bit of a markup on it, and most of it o most of the vendors, I say most, most of the ones we know, have a make us an offer mentality, um ask for our best price, and it's, yeah, yeah, it's like encouraging banter.

11:00.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's almost expected, isn't it? Yeah. There's ticketed price and haggled price. That's right.

11:06.66
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

11:06.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

11:07.90
Adz
because Because the first question is like, oh, what's the best price you can go? And he's like, well, I don't know. what do you And a lot of people would say, well what's your price?

11:15.08
youcantcompthis
yeah

11:15.88
Adz
And that's it's a legitimate question. and And I'm like, okay, well, my price is 60. And the guy goes, well, eight. So $100 card.

11:23.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I think there's a couple of points that I think there's the price that the person paid for it and then the price they're happy to sell it for.

11:29.09
Adz
Yep.

11:30.66
youcantcompthis
And I was watching some U.S.

11:30.99
Adz
Yep. yeah.

11:31.74
youcantcompthis
content on this where they're walking around and and talking to vendors saying, like, what's the worst card in your case that you probably know you're not going to sell?

11:33.52
Adz
yeah yeah

11:38.60
youcantcompthis
And the vendors were getting out these cards on their local. look I bought this in peak COVID for, you know, 10,000 bucks. And now it's comping for 2K. And they're like, they've still got a ticket at 8 or 10K because they don't want to take a 6K dive on it.

11:46.50
Adz
Mm hmm.

11:51.80
youcantcompthis
And they're like, that's fine. I'm just going to let it sit in my case until it sells. you know And you know I suspect that there's a lot of vendors who are like that because you know we know what's happened the last couple of years.

11:59.97
Adz
Yeah. And for the right deal, they'll take the hit, right?

12:02.16
youcantcompthis
so Yeah, that's right.

12:04.29
Adz
And for the for the right for the right throw in in a trade, they'll be like, you know what?

12:09.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

12:10.38
Adz
they'll knock it down and and throw it in to try and up the value of a trade and try and get some value back.

12:12.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

12:15.67
Adz
And that's, I mean, that's all they're trying to do is get value.

12:16.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

12:18.10
Adz
They're not trying to gouge people, I wouldn't think.

12:20.96
youcantcompthis
Matty Yuga food was much better this time around with the smash burgers too. I think, um, yeah, food is a big deal. Food and rest is very important to Matt. So I think we have to keep that in mind.

12:32.44
Adz
Yeah.

12:33.01
youcantcompthis
Joe, Joe food managed to pick up these two shack florals is from Jonah Michael. So I'm not surprised those two guys were wheeling and dealing.

12:41.04
Adz
I'm not surprised at all. I do believe Jono got himself some some nice cards as well from from from Joe.

12:43.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

12:50.83
youcantcompthis
Matty Yuga dropped in a link to his YouTube channel. Please check out Matty's content. He's homegrown Aussie kid, just like us, make some amazing content that's not click bait worthy.

12:58.66
Adz
Yep.

13:00.96
youcantcompthis
So very thoughtful guy. Matty, if you are listening, we're waiting for you to come onto the show. We've asked you so many times now, but it's going to publicly pressure you to coming in. So let's go, mate.

13:10.14
Adz
That's it, you're back you're back in the country, you've returned.

13:11.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

13:12.60
Adz
Now it's time to come back on the show.

13:13.14
youcantcompthis
Your list of excuses is dwindling. That's right, mate. Yeah.

13:15.61
Adz
That's it, that's it.

13:16.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

13:16.54
Adz
We need we we we want you back on.

13:19.09
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, Jared Begg picked up some really nice Jordans here. So Jared, thank you for a lovely day mate. It was really great to catch up with you. And what is your favorite card out of his little bunch there?

13:29.75
Adz
I saw it, I'm like, I was so, I saw it as well. I was i was contemplating picking the same cut up as the Jordan power and the key.

13:37.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

13:38.17
Adz
That was it, i was I was tempted, I walked past it on one of my walk-arounds. And then, yeah, eventually, yeah, Jared, yep, yep.

13:44.23
youcantcompthis
It was gone. Jared got it.

13:46.50
Adz
I saw who ended up with it and I was like, yeah, good pickup, great pickup.

13:52.50
youcantcompthis
All right. Final thoughts on hobby hangout.

13:56.08
Adz
It a good day, a really good day.

13:57.12
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

13:57.86
Adz
I had a lot of fun. um I got myself a ah ah Jamie Hakes Jr. red cracked ice prism.

14:10.20
youcantcompthis
Great.

14:10.27
Adz
That was my only pick up, PSA 10.

14:12.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

14:13.25
Adz
I'm now convinced that red is the Miami Heat color match. So for those playing at home, what do you think? Because Miami Heat's red and black, I'm guessing red's a good color match for it. So I'm a sucker.

14:25.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so going into that color match and then there's three.

14:26.69
Adz
I'm a sucker for a red ice.

14:29.76
youcantcompthis
So there's the straight red that's numbered.

14:31.78
Adz
Mm-hmm.

14:32.86
youcantcompthis
There's the Ruby wave and you could have the red crack die. So there's a bit of choice going around for the color matches for Miami Heat.

14:38.25
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I like it.

14:39.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

14:40.72
Adz
I like it. I went with the red ice because it's the only one I saw on the day, but yeah, it's good.

14:44.73
youcantcompthis
Great. ah Good pick up, man. All righty. PSA vending machine has surfaced in a casino in Las Vegas. Organically, this has just picked up a whole bunch of steam on social media. The boys from sports cards and nonsense picked it up. So I think the easiest comparison to this, there is a card vending machine in Emporium in in Melbourne.

15:01.88
Adz
Mmm.

15:06.01
youcantcompthis
So this is not like ah a unique thing. When I was in Singapore for holidays, they had one and it had Pokemon cards in it. You literally just go there, look at what they've got for sale in it and pick it out.

15:14.25
Adz
Yeah.

15:15.83
youcantcompthis
This one's a little bit different.

15:16.33
Adz
Mm-hmm.

15:17.11
youcantcompthis
It's a mystery box. Every card's PSA 10, 50 USD, it spits out a box. It could be anything, all sports, Pokemon. You're hoping to get a Jordan PSA 10, allegedly.

15:27.10
Adz
But it's a PSA 10.

15:28.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah, they're all PSA 10s, that's right. ye

15:31.46
Adz
Okay.

15:31.62
youcantcompthis
If you look really carefully at the the logo are there, it does it is it does say PSA, but it's not actually their logo. They've changed the color scheme around a little bit. It picked up so much social media heat that PSA actually put out their own official statement to say that, yes, it's PSA cards in there, but this vendor has got absolutely nothing to do with us at all.

15:43.07
Adz
Hmm.

15:54.24
youcantcompthis
So they're not saying it's a bad thing. They're not denouncing it, but they're also clearly separating themselves from the whole situation. so

16:01.00
Adz
Yeah, that's it's interesting.

16:03.23
youcantcompthis
Where are you at with stuff like this, Ed?

16:05.62
Adz
Look, I think it's smart on whoever's set up their vending machine.

16:12.05
youcantcompthis
Yep.

16:13.27
Adz
because can you imagine the backlash of PSA suing them?

16:20.97
Adz
Like they're using PSA, they're paying PSA for the slabs, right?

16:21.00
youcantcompthis
I mean, that's.

16:24.86
Adz
So they're selling a PSA product. I feel like they're piggybacking on the brand, but with no repercussions because it benefits PSA.

16:29.63
youcantcompthis
I wouldn't.

16:32.12
youcantcompthis
Oh, definitely the piggyback on the brand.

16:38.03
youcantcompthis
I think it benefits both ways. I feel like both companies at the moment are getting really good free advertising.

16:39.46
Adz
Yeah.

16:42.23
youcantcompthis
So.

16:42.58
Adz
Yeah, and but I think PSA separating themselves, are like just in case something goes wrong, really.

16:50.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and maybe also to just to point out that they don't have a commercial interest in this.

16:56.40
Adz
yeah Yeah, in case they ever do wanna do something like that.

17:02.64
youcantcompthis
I don't think it would be ethical for them to sell their own cards because then the whole thing comes up that, you know, they're grading them just to sell them themselves. like I think that, look, actually maybe at the end of the day, yeah, I know they've got a dealership into a platform, but I don't think they're, do you know what I mean?

17:14.66
Adz
Watch this space with fanatics. Anyway. Mmm.

17:25.07
youcantcompthis
I think that's a bit, that's a separate issue altogether. So just to, I think that actually now I think about it, that's what they're really trying to do.

17:31.92
Adz
Hmm.

17:32.63
youcantcompthis
We're not selling our own graded cards through a vending machine.

17:35.88
Adz
Yep, yep.

17:35.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right. That's enough on that. All right. I put i ranges in price from, you know, 40 bucks to a hundred plus.

17:41.04
Adz
I wanna know where, I wanna say the one in Emporium now. How much are they?

17:49.69
youcantcompthis
I'm actually not too sure if it's there anymore. Cause there was some, something happened with, with card lab.

17:52.94
Adz
There's a, there was a Cardlab one. There was a Cardlab one in Glen Waverly.

17:57.08
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

17:57.31
Adz
I was selling packs though, repacks. I think anyway.

17:59.46
youcantcompthis
ah Look, anyway, I don't want to talk about it because I don't really know about it, but something happened with Card Lab, and it was either with their packaging or advertising something. All right. LeBron James. These next two are for you, Ad. LeBron James has re-signed for two years, $104 million dollars on a maximum deal.

18:10.15
Adz
Yay.

18:14.98
youcantcompthis
There was some talk he was going to come back on a less than max, hoping to get Clay Thompson, you know, maybe DeMarder Rosen, something like this. But Chris Paul all didn't want to play with LeBron, which is a little bit sad, I think, for old LeBron.

18:28.95
Adz
I, yeah, this is, um, this is very telling that the whole, we don't people like high level players not wanting to come across to LA. Is it because they don't want to be the second fiddle to LeBron and AD or like Anthony Davis has been quiet the whole time. There's talk of LeBron, ah LeBron taking a pay cut and let's be fair, he's a billionaire. Probably doesn't need to take the max.

18:53.76
youcantcompthis
A billionaire with an enormous ego that would probably be very sad if you had to take 10% less than Max, right?

18:53.95
Adz
Um,

18:59.55
youcantcompthis
like let's Let's keep it in context.

19:00.21
Adz
Not gonna lie though, can you could we keep the context of, can you imagine rocking up to work with your dad and you're on four million a year or two million a year and and dad's on 50 million?

19:02.07
youcantcompthis
ah

19:14.86
Adz
It's a bit rough.

19:17.44
youcantcompthis
i mean To be fair, Bronnie Jr. did get a guaranteed deal. Three plus one. So not many second rounders get that ad.

19:23.17
Adz
It did, it did, it did.

19:25.55
youcantcompthis
like

19:26.24
Adz
It's true, it's true, it's true.

19:27.03
youcantcompthis
ah

19:28.20
Adz
Maybe maybe maybe the nepotism's scaring some of these big names off.

19:35.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah, maybe, maybe that is the full ad, isn't it?

19:38.05
Adz
They don't wanna be part of a narrative.

19:38.35
youcantcompthis
that Yeah.

19:40.74
Adz
They're like, yeah. Just on that though, LeBron has a no trade clause in this two year deal.

19:45.45
youcantcompthis
Really?

19:46.90
Adz
Yeah, him and Bradley Beal are the only two in the league with a no trade clause.

19:51.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

19:54.38
Adz
But i do I do think it's hindered the chances of the Lakers being um aggressively competitive come the pointy end of the season. I think they're pretty much as they're as they're constructed now with with the bulk of their salary um taken up by AD and LeBron, unfortunately.

20:18.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

20:19.92
Adz
So there's sort of no wiggle room. And I get it. Year 22 LeBron is going to be better than more than 80% of the league. Don't get me wrong. Like I've got LeBron listed as a top 20 player still. So even at the age of 40, he's going to be like a scary proposition on on most nights. It's just his longevity and whether or not he's going to be healthy for the whole season and what the Lakers can do around it. I mean, they've still got Reeves, Rui,

20:53.96
Adz
dason Who else was it? um Jackson Hays re-signed, D'Angelo Russell. They've got a call there. I just don't think they've got a lot else to go with it.

21:03.58
youcantcompthis
I think without adding extra pieces, like without adding Clay Thompson or Chris Paul say, I don't see them then going on to win the championship.

21:08.08
Adz
Yep.

21:11.13
youcantcompthis
That's, that's my very simple take on the Lakers.

21:11.44
Adz
Agreed.

21:13.53
youcantcompthis
so

21:14.63
Adz
My thought at the moment is that the D'Angelo re-signing is he's going to be a trade piece.

21:21.11
youcantcompthis
Okay.

21:24.17
Adz
There's gonna be some form of trade. They're trying to orchestrate something.

21:28.38
youcantcompthis
Let's take a break. And when we come back, I want to talk some LeBron James card value, because I feel like this is something we've not really done. Like for a while, we didn't talk about Jordan cards for sort of two years. Then we sort of did something about that. I feel like LeBron is the next one through.

21:40.61
Adz
Lebron needs some love.

21:41.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

21:42.43
Adz
Let's do it.

21:42.64
youcantcompthis
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22:14.10
youcantcompthis
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22:24.89
youcantcompthis
All righty, we are back. Welcome back, Adam. How was your break? Did you get some some drinks?

22:29.13
Adz
Break.

22:31.77
Adz
I had a bit of a stretch, you know, had a bit of a sip on some water, rehydrated.

22:36.16
youcantcompthis
Beautiful, beautiful. All righty, I want to talk LeBron James card values because this is something we don't do very much.

22:42.81
Adz
Are you feeling well? What are you talking about LeBron James?

22:46.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, 2003 tops Chrome but rookie refractor, PSA 10. Last sold for $26,100, population on this, 178. That's just on the PSAs. We probably should talk about the BGS, just for the fact that, yeah, I mean, just because at that time, BGS was definitely the big dog in the market.

23:03.44
Adz
Go to that pop report. Yeah.

23:10.73
Adz
Mm hmm.

23:10.89
youcantcompthis
So 9.5, there's 442 of them. But if you look just a little bit more to the left, so there's just 31 tens.

23:20.73
Adz
Mm hmm.

23:21.86
youcantcompthis
and four black labels. So there's not a lot of these cards. And I think particularly as we compare to ultra modern, I think the really fun question about this is, you know, what are we moving into now? What year 20, 21, 22 with LeBron?

23:39.05
Adz
Yeah, new 21.

23:39.80
youcantcompthis
Buy, hold or sell for you at $26,000. Hypothetically, if you had that much cash just sitting in your bank.

23:46.88
Adz
For a PSA 10.

23:48.18
youcantcompthis
yeah

23:53.17
Adz
That's a tough one.

23:56.36
Adz
I'm like, I wouldn't be in a hurry to sell it.

24:02.98
Adz
And I do think over time it'll go up. um

24:08.45
Adz
Yeah, yeah, it's a, for me, I think it's a hold.

24:14.94
youcantcompthis
I think where my head sits with this is like what are you comping it to something else to get a bit of you know value comparison so I probably like this a little bit better than say the Jordan because like with the Jordan how many of them are out there how many of them are faked you know on and on that whole sort of debate rages in my head whereas I look at this I'm like population on this is pretty low still

24:21.55
Adz
Mm. Okay.

24:38.40
youcantcompthis
Of course there can be fakes out there. I'm not going to be you know completely naive to that, but I'd also say too, I think there's a lot less fakes of the LeBron out there than the Jordan.

24:40.09
Adz
Yeah.

24:47.09
youcantcompthis
you know I like this a lot actually.

24:47.35
Adz
Agreed.

24:49.55
youcantcompthis
And I think also too, for that sort of you know future uptick and moving up in the future, I think there's you know a lot of space there. I'd actually, um I might do this for next week's show at LeBron, Steph, Jordan, sort of look at the three sort of current big dogs, do a bit of a compound on that.

24:58.48
Adz
oh

25:04.10
Adz
Defining, defining athletes.

25:06.44
youcantcompthis
I think that will be super fun. yeah

25:07.72
Adz
It's not too bad at all. Yeah.

25:09.44
youcantcompthis
Alrighty. Your boy has been re-extended at the Celtics. Derek White, four years, $125 million. dollars Look, I'm just going to, I'm going to say this publicly.

25:17.18
Adz
Been paid, got paid.

25:20.47
youcantcompthis
I was very wrong about this. We need to check his hobby values to see where he's at, but I feel like we were very, we had very different opinions on this. And I feel like you were really the the person who was right about it. So add, I've got to give you your flowers right now.

25:34.96
Adz
Thank you.

25:35.12
youcantcompthis
Congratulations on, on the Derek White prediction.

25:37.95
Adz
I stuck with him. Product of but product of the ah Greg Popovich

25:45.21
youcantcompthis
Can I double back just what I said two seconds ago?

25:47.56
Adz
ah

25:47.61
youcantcompthis
So he is down 30% in the last three months.

25:52.30
Adz
but

25:52.70
youcantcompthis
So his last sale was $52, down from 90.

25:55.38
Adz
But... Oh, far out.

25:57.09
youcantcompthis
At $52, I don't mind that at all, actually.

26:01.38
Adz
Look, although, although, after over the last year, over the last year, he's up 60%.

26:03.29
youcantcompthis
Bye.

26:11.24
Adz
Starting at 32%.

26:11.35
youcantcompthis
Population 169. Yeah, yeah, look, I'm totally fine with this. So I think the next two years, he's going to be really important to that team. um Super funny side note for this.

26:20.48
Adz
Yeah.

26:21.60
youcantcompthis
So the Celtics ownership are actually in the middle of a sale. So they've just re-signed.

26:26.81
Adz
Congrats. Yeah.

26:28.86
youcantcompthis
Good time to sell, but interesting. They've just re-signed Jalen Brown, obviously to the then the biggest deal in NBA history. And I'm just going to move down the sheet. Let's just go ahead a little bit. So Jason Tatum's also been resigned to now the largest contract in NBA history for $314 million.

26:45.13
Adz
Yes.

26:46.55
youcantcompthis
dollars Then you add in Derek Wyatt. Like this team, this team is going to be, you know, I think it's going to be the highest payroll in like NBA history, you know, ever.

26:50.27
Adz
125 mil, yep.

26:56.81
youcantcompthis
I don't think that's a ah question, but I think for me where this really gets interesting is the tax bill that they then have to pay.

27:03.61
Adz
Yeah.

27:04.36
youcantcompthis
And then moving forward, you've got a new ownership as I come up and pay the bill. Like the current owner is signing these contracts, but they're not going to be paying them.

27:10.81
Adz
They're just like, yeah, why not?

27:11.45
youcantcompthis
So yeah.

27:12.31
Adz
Let's do it. Yep.

27:14.58
youcantcompthis
So I actually wonder if someone say, Derek White is going to be very valuable to this team because look, I'm completely speculating here and this is not based on fact, but let's just say they, Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum can't play together. They can't afford it. they have to move one of these pieces on. I think that's where Derek White becomes insanely valuable, or maybe he gets traded somewhere else and he becomes, yeah.

27:37.12
Adz
It becomes a good trade piece. Yeah. Yeah.

27:39.90
youcantcompthis
Seems like a lot of money to me for Derek White though. I think his agent did a really good job on that.

27:43.69
Adz
He's important. is that He's an upgrade to Marcus Smart, I think.

27:51.97
youcantcompthis
Okay.

27:53.89
Adz
Cheap upgrade too.

27:57.21
youcantcompthis
Now, This next one is, is a really weird one. So I'm going to consider this a, an art piece and it might work or it might not work.

28:03.48
Adz
An art piece.

28:04.98
youcantcompthis
So this could be just um some nonsense that we're talking about. And it's actually come from sports cuts nonsense page. Now the author of this is Michael Stewart and I'm going to reach out to him because I wouldn't mind him to come onto the show. Like this is such a crazy story that it's actually worth talking about. So what he did was he went out, he bought 45 cards. All of them were tens from the company gem. He then cracked every single one of them and subbed them to PSA to do like a double blind test, essentially.

28:30.43
Adz
Mmm.

28:34.59
Adz
Mmm.

28:34.60
youcantcompthis
Now, statistics and maths wasn't my major. However, I do remember some stuff from statistics. You need at least 30 in a sample size for it to be small, significantly significant. So he's gone to 45. So he's gone over that.

28:51.58
Adz
Sure, sure, yep.

28:52.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Now his PSA sub returns were three tens.

28:56.23
Adz
Mm-hmm.

28:57.97
youcantcompthis
five nines, five eights, two sevens, two six, one five, and 27 that didn't get a grade at all, minimum size or evidence of trimming.

28:59.03
Adz
Mm-hmm.

29:09.69
Adz
Wow!

29:12.36
youcantcompthis
So look, I want to see some proof of this. And I think this is like just a funny story for us to have a giggle about, but you know, not go too deep on it. But so I think the narrative for me is you know, we understand that PSA is a more reputable company when it comes to grading. The side story to this though is, and this is something we've spoken about before, but I think this really clearly defines it, is that people will take fakes and cut cards, resub them until they get a 10 at all these different grading companies. And we were talking about then that when

29:43.57
Adz
Mmm.

29:44.64
youcantcompthis
Smaller Australian grading companies were popping up and we're talking about, you know, what's your pedigree, you know, what's your providence, all that type of stuff. And and that's why that's why all that matters is because you've got a gem 10 in your hand.

29:51.83
Adz
Yeah.

29:57.41
youcantcompthis
But, you know, what does it actually mean? And these numbers here lay that out really, really well. So, yeah.

30:03.07
Adz
That's incredible.

30:04.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

30:06.23
Adz
I thought the other experiment was PSA just picked numbers at random to gift cards.

30:12.36
youcantcompthis
Look, I think there is some truth to that too.

30:15.27
Adz
Yeah.

30:15.91
youcantcompthis
You know, we can't say PSA is perfect and, you know, they've never done a step wrong. Of course that, but at the same time, I think that's a really interesting one. Now look, we do need some, you know.

30:24.21
Adz
Context.

30:24.34
youcantcompthis
see some more screenshots or some of that. so But I can't wait to have a chat to Michael. I think that's a really fun one to to chew through.

30:29.26
Adz
Yeah.

30:31.57
youcantcompthis
ah Alrighty, so hobby wise this week, this is this is actually really big. This actually will influence the hobby.

30:37.12
Adz
Mmm.

30:38.80
youcantcompthis
This will also influence the price of Prism Choice moving forward. The one of one Nebula from Prism Choice got pulled this week, got pulled by Bles. I don't think that's a massive surprise. We all know how much Bles loves Prism Choice.

30:56.41
youcantcompthis
Adam, if I engaged you as a broker to sell this card, what what would you be telling your client this card is worth?

31:07.09
Adz
I would be letting my client know that there are previous one of one sales for, for our lovely friend, uh, Victor when Beniana in the proxy, when was the last, was it half a million that it sold for that there, there is evidence to show this card could sell for a half a million dollars.

31:28.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

31:35.22
youcantcompthis
So that was the black shimmer that you're referencing. Do you think that the Nebula is worth more?

31:37.89
Adz
Mm-hmm. Marginally, maybe.

31:44.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

31:46.66
Adz
Like, it could go either way at auction.

31:50.31
Adz
I wouldn't try and oversell it, because then I'd sell, I think I'd sound like a used car salesman, but I think both being one of ones gives a good comparison of a starting block for the the potential sale of this car.

32:04.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

32:05.85
Adz
And, um... Yeah. Yeah. I'd be like, I think at a minimum you're in that ballpark. That would be how I'd be marketing it to a client.

32:17.85
youcantcompthis
I agree with the the dollar value. I think that's a really easy like comp to make for it. I think for me, the more interesting question is, would you hold it?

32:22.39
Adz
Yeah.

32:26.12
youcantcompthis
hoping that it's going to go up in the future because he's going to be the future MVP in the future goat. He's got all the tools or do you sell it now and say, look, he's hype is so much at the moment. There's so much heat on this guy. let Let's get the sale and let's do it now. Where are you at with that?

32:43.82
Adz
I can see an argument for both.

32:45.41
youcantcompthis
yeah hundred percent Yeah.

32:46.19
Adz
I would i would probably sell it and try and and try <unk> my hand at picking up some other value.

32:51.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

32:54.64
youcantcompthis
yeah

32:56.38
Adz
ah

32:56.95
youcantcompthis
Leap with the regret if it does go up later on.

32:57.10
Adz
i pro Yeah, where it's one of those, well, I could end up with, I don't know, I could go and get some of those wimpy cabooms, right?

32:59.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

33:07.61
Adz
That are worth like 30 to 40,000. Like stuff like that and just start accumulating those.

33:13.39
youcantcompthis
Okay. Yeah.

33:14.17
Adz
to the value of, I don't know, save a couple of hundred K go and actually be an adult with that money and then spend, and then spend another like 300 K on cabooms and random bits and pieces and go, let's see if diversifying a portfolio there with cards is, is more, is sort of more lucrative.

33:20.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Okay.

33:32.59
youcantcompthis
yeah

33:36.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

33:37.41
Adz
I don't know. Go back to the other week where we're talking the players as stocks.

33:43.57
Adz
WEM, for WEM Binata?

33:43.84
youcantcompthis
two Did we agree on a ah stock number for WMB?

33:47.97
Adz
No, I don't think, what would you have it? I'd say WEM.

33:51.08
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think when that's pretty easy to remember, isn't it?

33:52.38
Adz
WEM, or MBY, could be, I don't know.

33:54.04
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

33:56.92
youcantcompthis
I think when is that's pretty obvious.

33:58.19
Adz
WEM stocks.

34:02.54
youcantcompthis
All righty.

34:02.92
Adz
Just don't sell your WEM and buy into LUK, because that's fraught with danger.

34:10.01
youcantcompthis
Ugh. Alrighty, now this next one is from the source that I hate to reference, but it's from Sports Card Investor. Walmart is joining the hobby. This extension of Walmart Marketplace will allow the sale of collector's items, including trading cards and memorabilia, as well as other items like comics and coins. As of now, to sell on the platform, you need to apply for for the Walmart Marketplace with a tax ID. The platform is currently offering 0% referral fee from the 1st to the 30th.

34:40.84
youcantcompthis
So I think my thoughts on this is that this is just the the hobby growing and maturing more. So this is another example of a vending machine in Vegas where the hobbyist is just slowly infiltrating out to our society.

34:50.13
Adz
oh

34:53.03
youcantcompthis
Look, I've got no problem with this, but I personally think there's better marketplaces that are a lot more established.

34:59.03
Adz
Facebook starters, no.

34:59.06
youcantcompthis
And I have Facebook, sure, but I think maybe even the better example at the moment is eBay, like the things that eBay is doing to improve their services and

35:05.91
Adz
Mmm.

35:10.48
youcantcompthis
in particular, specifically to sports cards, like they're really listening to people who, you know, in my opinion, who are doing the right things.

35:17.55
Adz
Yep.

35:17.90
youcantcompthis
And then also, you know, moving forward to where you've got this combined platform between Goldens, PSA and eBay, where you've just got this whole sort of encapsulated sort of experience.

35:17.94
Adz
Yeah.

35:27.94
Adz
yeah

35:28.86
youcantcompthis
Look, that's fine. Like I've got no problems with people maybe cross listing onto Walmart, you know, something along those lines.

35:33.46
Adz
yeah

35:34.34
youcantcompthis
But at the same time, I think at the moment, it almost feels like the race has been won. Yeah.

35:41.73
Adz
Yeah, I don't think there's a need to reinvent the wheel. My my thought my thoughts are reflected very much by the the first comment that I saw on the Instagram post, and it is, just what we needed, another marketplace, said no one ever.

35:50.52
youcantcompthis
yeah

35:54.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

35:57.30
youcantcompthis
and That's Mac card collection.

35:57.55
Adz
yeah

35:58.82
youcantcompthis
He's a funny dude, actually. Yeah.

36:00.71
Adz
It's like, come on, like really? We don't, yeah, well i my my thought is, like we've got enough places to sell our cards and health. Yeah, people are just trying to jump on board. Like it's, no, this race has been, the race isn't even on anymore. As you said, like, that's fair enough.

36:17.67
youcantcompthis
I think in terms of jumping on board, I do agree with that you know to a degree, but also Walmart already has all that infrastructure in place and all you know the system set up, so it's not a crazy leap for them to sort of you know move into this marketplace. ye Particularly if it's a consignment thing, it's almost like money for nothing for Walmart, isn't it?

36:36.69
Adz
For them, yeah, for sure.

36:37.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

36:38.61
Adz
For sure.

36:39.89
youcantcompthis
All righty, let's have a quick break. when we come back we'll do the last segment of the show because actually this week it's a slightly abridged Russell and Adam episode because we do have a guest coming on true it's Rod from Neon Cards so what will happen is this will be a 45 minute episode and then Rod will have his own episode then for the radio show we'll just mix it all in together basically so yeah

36:48.69
Adz
Yeah. Well, there's a bit of us in the guest bit. Yeah.

37:06.15
Adz
Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Let's take a break.

37:14.53
youcantcompthis
Okay, we are back for our final segment of this week. Now the rest of it, we do have a little bit of hobby chat in it, but most of it, it's just us talking about the trades that's happened and then basically our favorite ones. What's your favorite trade that's happened in the off season ad?

37:33.47
Adz
It's not the trade or signing um through free agency.

37:35.95
youcantcompthis
Oh, whichever you want. Yeah, whichever movement. Movement is probably the better word.

37:38.67
Adz
there's I mean, i mean as i as I said at the beginning of the show, so I think I've been taken out of trade because the Lakers haven't done much. I thought they would be more active, but anyway, this is not a Lakers episode. this is ah We're talking about the trade period. um Chris Paul to the Spurs was my...

37:56.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah, cool. Let's talk about that.

37:57.36
Adz
i Yeah, I was... i was I was excited to see what this is gonna mean for the Spurs.

38:06.75
youcantcompthis
What do you think it means for this birth?

38:09.01
Adz
I think they've recruited a veteran to help upskill this young core that they're they're developing. I mean, it's no secret that the Spurs ah recruited a guard, ah drafted a guard with their their first pick. Is it Stephon Castle? Undersized guard, is he? But undersized two.

38:31.80
Adz
What would you call him?

38:32.08
youcantcompthis
Again, so my head isn't really in this space, but what I was reading on basketball reference the other day, it's more about him, the way that he plays defensive, but also a playmaker and someone just moves the ball around and you know, it's going to facilitate and that's something he enjoys to do.

38:39.92
Adz
Defensive.

38:43.76
Adz
Yep.

38:47.08
youcantcompthis
I think that's a very Spurs, you know, yeah.

38:48.53
Adz
He's gonna get a, they recruited the Spurs guard that they needed. Yeah, yep, yep.

38:53.17
youcantcompthis
Outlook on life, isn't it? Yeah.

38:54.90
Adz
And I think Chris Paul um embodies Spurs spurs culture, I think.

39:01.51
youcantcompthis
In what way?

39:02.65
Adz
in the fact that he is a past first point guard.

39:02.73
youcantcompthis
Be specific.

39:05.21
Adz
He is, he's very facilitative.

39:05.67
youcantcompthis
Yep. Pass verse. Yep. And very cerebral.

39:08.73
Adz
And he, yeah.

39:09.55
youcantcompthis
I think he's a really smart guy and he plays basketball the right way, you know?

39:09.92
Adz
Yeah. Correct.

39:12.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

39:13.01
Adz
Yep.

39:13.48
youcantcompthis
Sometimes I think he'll hold on to the ball for too long. And I think that will cause some problems for pop but at the same time. Yeah. I remember Doc Rivers was trying to get him to pass the ball and not hold onto it at the top of the key. And it just sort of seemed that Chris Paul you know won out. So I think that's going to happen the same thing for the Spurs.

39:26.11
Adz
Hmm.

39:28.42
youcantcompthis
So my take on him going to the Spurs is that

39:28.43
Adz
Yep.

39:31.65
youcantcompthis
I wonder if he fits into the greater philosophy of the Spurs. So you know how they've got this sort of Spurs tree where people come into the Spurs and then they go into the ah coaching and then they maybe go into the front office. I wonder if this is like, we really like you, Chris Paul.

39:44.11
Adz
Hmm.

39:46.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Come and play with us. You can mentor the guys. You know, I think that's a little bit of an offshoot. I'm guessing this is like something that is going to be like a long-term agreement where, you know, he's helping them out.

39:56.53
Adz
Chris Paul will be in and around the club after he finishes playing.

39:58.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah, in the front office, like, you know, you need smart people who have, you know, good basketball minds doing basketball things.

40:00.40
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

40:03.92
Adz
I, I think that makes a lot of sense.

40:04.05
youcantcompthis
And, you know, yeah, yeah.

40:05.88
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

40:07.81
youcantcompthis
So I actually couldn't find a chrome of his rookie card, but I did find just the, well, it is a chrome card, but the base of the chrome. So PSA 10 population on this is 416.

40:16.09
Adz
Hmm.

40:18.67
youcantcompthis
The last sold price on this is $108.50.

40:22.80
Adz
Yeah.

40:23.48
youcantcompthis
There's not a lot of hobby love for Chris Paul. So I'm not shocked to see this price, but at the same time, it does seem a little bit low, particularly when we, you know, talk about other people in the hobby.

40:26.28
Adz
I've got the chrome refractor. Last sold for 1,800, pop count of 24.

40:34.48
Adz
um

40:36.80
youcantcompthis
If you found a better card for us to talk about, I'm happy to pull that up too.

40:37.05
Adz
the i've got the chrome refractor

40:40.66
youcantcompthis
Okay, sure.

40:41.28
Adz
last sold for one thousand eight hundred pop count of twenty four

40:43.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

40:46.13
Adz
Yeah, that's yeah. He does have a kaboom.

40:51.43
youcantcompthis
Let's talk about that because His PSA 10 2030 Pinini Innovation Kaboom, population on that is just five.

40:59.78
Adz
Yeah.

41:02.19
Adz
Mm hmm.

41:02.34
youcantcompthis
Last sold for 900 US a very long time ago, I will definitely admit that.

41:06.84
Adz
Yeah.

41:07.86
youcantcompthis
um Super interesting though that the PSA, sorry, the card letter value is significantly less at 513.

41:13.73
Adz
So

41:16.20
Adz
Hmm.

41:17.37
youcantcompthis
I think the person who bought this for $34 and sold it at $900 is absolutely ingenious of the hobby and I ah congratulate you immensely. But even if you bought that for $34 and just held it, I think that's a really, really great, great card to have in your collection and a very yeah a very shrewd purchase.

41:32.38
Adz
Yeah.

41:38.07
Adz
Very solid.

41:40.33
youcantcompthis
yeah Look, I think for me,

41:41.73
Adz
Yeah.

41:45.02
youcantcompthis
There's been a lot of movement happening in the Thunder and we talked about last week and look I think the Thunder have won the offseason and then we spoke about the magic last week so I don't want to go through that again but that's my first and second and then I think if we have to go for a third place I kind of sneakily like what the Clippers did this year because they let go Paul George

42:03.19
Adz
Mmm.

42:03.73
youcantcompthis
And I think some people say, well, that's like, that's a bad thing to let go of Paul George, but I think paying him $50 million dollars when he's, you know, 38, I don't think that's fantastic. They then took a chance on Kevin Porter Jr., who is this insanely talented guy who has had his list of problems, but at the same time, I'm really happy to see him back at the league.

42:21.80
Adz
Yeah.

42:23.09
youcantcompthis
So I think there's going to be some people who are holding Kevin Porter, who are very, very excited about this. And I'm sure they're getting ready to, you know, sell their cards at the first sort of positive signing of Kevin Porter Jr., which is like, which is fine, by the way.

42:35.30
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

42:36.19
youcantcompthis
There is some speculative purchases to be made in that space. And then obviously the Clippers also took a chance on Primo last year. And we sort of, we've made a lot of jokes about Primo and you know, what he got up to. So we don't need to go through that again.

42:48.21
Adz
No flash sales. That's all I can say.

42:49.91
youcantcompthis
there Yeah, there might be some flash sales. I think now is also a really fun time to go through the Paul George for SGA trade. so

42:59.59
Adz
Yeah.

43:00.64
youcantcompthis
The Thunder received SGA, Danilo Gallinari, a 2021 first round pick, which turned out to be Trey Mann, a 22 pick, which turned out to be Jalen Williams, Ian, so the Good Williams, 2023 first round swap, which was and wasn't conveyed.

43:08.69
Adz
Yep.

43:11.88
Adz
We.

43:16.15
Adz
Mm hmm.

43:17.58
youcantcompthis
Now this is going to the future, 2024 first round pick, 25 first round pick, 25 first round swap pick, and 26 first round pick. So they've still got more assets coming in and Paul George is not even on the team anymore. And literally Paul George, you know, left for nothing, left for nothing.

43:33.61
Adz
Yeah.

43:34.71
youcantcompthis
So tough one for the Clippers there. I think the Clippers just slightly, just slightly.

43:39.76
Adz
Yeah, I think OKC wins the trade.

43:46.26
Adz
like there's there's no there's There's no saving. Yeah, no, there's nothing that saves this for the Clippers. It's good to see.

43:57.41
youcantcompthis
This next one is really ah a pet sort of one for me, so the Houston Rockets picked up AJ Griffin. Last year I spoke about him on the show saying I really liked him as and potential and then he basically got injured the next week and you know didn't play much at all for the rest. but

44:11.61
Adz
ye

44:12.53
youcantcompthis
super weird one for me because the hawks are not really in a position to be tanking because they don't own their draft pick next year so somehow the hawks are trying to be good but also you know somewhat giving up assets. So AJ Griffin off to the Houston Rockets, the only problem I have with this in terms of hobby value for AJ Griffin, I don't think this is going to help his value at all because

44:30.36
Adz
Yep. No.

44:33.53
youcantcompthis
The Rockets are kind of weirdly stacked in the same way that the Orlando Magic are and also the Thunder. are They've just got lots of like sort of good young players, yeah.

44:40.19
Adz
Assets. Yeah, yeah.

44:42.16
youcantcompthis
And also too, Houston seems to be in a strange mode of they want to be young but good at the same time. So I think if he's not playing well, he's not going to be in the rotation to sort of receive developmental minutes. I don't think that's going to happen. So look, I'm not giving up on AJ Griffin. I think he's going to be a long term pro, but I'm not super excited about this.

44:59.70
Adz
Hmm.

45:03.21
youcantcompthis
Hey, and why don't we do one more and then we'll tie off today's show.

45:06.32
Adz
Yeah, let's do it.

45:07.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think we should finish this week's show on a eye-catching sale from PSA.

45:08.07
Adz
There we go.

45:13.48
Adz
Let's do it.

45:13.78
youcantcompthis
So this is something we don't see very often. This is a Michael Jordan in a Wizards card.

45:19.26
Adz
Ooh, pretty.

45:19.88
youcantcompthis
And before we before we go through the sale, I just want to talk to you about that concept for a second. Have you ever seen anyone doing a wanting to buy Jordan in a Wizards jersey request?

45:34.42
Adz
No, I actually don't hear it like when people talk about wanting Jordans. No one's like, I want a specific, like a Jordan in a Wizards. I want a good Jordan in a Wizards.

45:42.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I've never, ever, ever heard of that ever before.

45:44.40
Adz
No.

45:46.48
youcantcompthis
So I'm a little bit surprised on this sale actually, because you can say it each way.

45:48.64
Adz
It's interesting.

45:50.02
youcantcompthis
You can say, well, actually this is Undis or you can say, well, this is, you know, a lot of money. So it is a black refractor number to 99 PSA, 10 it's sold on eBay for 12,800.

45:54.28
Adz
Mm.

46:00.84
youcantcompthis
It's a tops 2002 Chrome. Look, I think it's a really good card, but I think where I struggle a little bit with this purchase is like,

46:10.19
Adz
Jordan as a wizard.

46:11.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and how much do people chase this stuff and in the future, you know?

46:15.84
Adz
I mean, look, let's let's let's put this into into context, right?

46:19.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, hit me.

46:21.26
Adz
um Jordan in a wizard's uniform is exactly the same um success-wise as Luca Dontich.

46:29.96
Adz
They've won exactly the same amount of championships, which is currently at zero if anyone's keeping count.

46:34.36
youcantcompthis
Oh.

46:37.19
Adz
um So maybe success does count. Who knows? I had to get a dig in. I had like the...

46:46.48
youcantcompthis
You nearly got to the end of the show without slaying our boy.

46:50.69
Adz
And congrats to to to Clay Thompson who's now joining Luca in Purgatory. So yeah.

46:57.26
youcantcompthis
That's a weird one. I think we have to break that down a little bit more next week because I haven't had time to go.

47:00.21
Adz
Well, we've got time. We've got time once the whole trade period sort of ends and we'll break down some key acquisitions in a future show.

47:04.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

47:09.82
youcantcompthis
Look, I think for me, would I buy a hold or sell this? I think this is a sell at $12,000. The only thought I've got in the back of my head is is actually these are undervalued assets.

47:16.63
Adz
o

47:20.51
youcantcompthis
so These are like really nice Jordan cards, but no one's buying them because of Wizards. Is that narrative going to change around in the future? That's the only part where I'm a bit hung up about.

47:27.63
Adz
um I don't know, it's there's ah there's a lot of Jordan, there's a lot of Jordan. All right, if it's not in a Bulls uniform, there we go. Would you prefer a Jordan in a North Carolina or a Wizards uniform?

47:44.18
youcantcompthis
I don't like college stuff at all, but actually I'd probably prefer North Carolina. It's something weird about him being in a wizard's uniform. I think you've answered the question.

47:49.48
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

47:50.77
youcantcompthis
Good work, Ad. Good analogy.

47:53.78
Adz
Bit of a zinger there.

47:53.83
youcantcompthis
All right.

47:54.53
Adz
All right, well, that's...

47:55.45
youcantcompthis
Final thoughts, Ad. What have you got for me?

47:57.51
Adz
um Looking forward to the next hobby hangout and...

48:01.43
youcantcompthis
A long way to be looking ahead, Ad.

48:03.07
Adz
Oh, look, it'll be it'll be here before you know it. The planning is the is the fun part, so we'll get well get busy brainstorming.

48:10.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we've definitely got a few things to work on. yeah Yeah. Well, thanks everyone for listening. We really appreciate your time and support.

48:21.68
Adz
And we'll be back next week.