Episode 153: 6 MJ Autos, Caitlin Clark Gets Her Own Product, $2 Million theft

Welcome overbody to Episode 153 where you are safe from political assasination conspiracy theories and tanking Wander Franco PC stories. You will only hear here some cardboard related deliciousness.
We start off with
Caitlin Clark Blasters
Caitlin Clark sales
Other athletes with their own product.

Huge 6 Jordan Autos story
Jordan Card Ladder
The incredulous Card show theft of "2 million dollars" worth of cards
Steph Curry BGS 9.5 /10
Demar Derozen Trade   
Cade extension  five-year, $224 
Maxey 5 years 204
Cade vs Maxey
Jalen Brunson Extension
Rob Dillingham  to the wolves;
Wemby still not on card ladder
Donovan mitchell 3 years 150million
Dejounte murray
Isiah joe extension
Team USA: Leonard out, White In

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Transcript

00:00:01.07
Adz
If it can't, well, we're in trouble, hey? No, we're all good. And we are live.

00:00:06.12
youcantcompthis
Happy days.

00:00:21.41
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 153 of the You Can't Comp this NBA Trading Card Podcast. We're your hosts, Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson. Russell, another week in the books.

00:00:36.41
youcantcompthis
I think so. And I'm just trying so hard not to say Donald Trump and Wanda Franco, but I made it 30 seconds and I've already let it slip out.

00:00:47.28
Adz
You literally opened the show with it, okay?

00:00:47.56
youcantcompthis
So yeah, I tried hard. I tried my best.

00:00:53.11
Adz
Oh well, you took your shot. It actually, it landed. Unlike the the Trump incident, I guess. Anyway. um

00:01:01.45
youcantcompthis
Boy, oh boy.

00:01:03.38
Adz
Goodness. Goodness.

00:01:04.28
youcantcompthis
boy

00:01:04.98
Adz
What a day. What a day in the media.

00:01:09.89
Adz
Have you been watching any summer league?

00:01:14.82
Adz
Speaking of missed shots, there we go.

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youcantcompthis
I've actually, I actually have watched some summer league. Kevin Knox has been a little bit of a pleasant surprise for me. Always, you know, fingers crossed he gets back into the league, but um actually the thing I have been trying to do is watch some world championships and I have a very unpatriotic take on the world championships actually.

00:01:34.86
Adz
On the upcoming Olympics?

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youcantcompthis
Sorry, the Olympics. Yeah, that's right.

00:01:37.84
Adz
ye Yep, yep, yep.

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youcantcompthis
I'll be following Team USA more than I'll be following Team Australia. So I do apologize.

00:01:44.05
Adz
After the select after the the way the Australian team was selected, I will not be watching the Boomers because it's embarrassing. Anyway.

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youcantcompthis
no I was explaining this to my wife, though, that It's not that I'm unpatriotic and I don't love Australia because I do and I'm, you know, it's the greatest country in the world and all that type of happy stuff.

00:01:58.18
Adz
Um, of course.

00:02:03.77
youcantcompthis
But I just watched the NBA guys day in and day out. I just have more of an emotional connection to Jason Tatum than I do to, you know, Dyson Daniels or whoever else has been you know listed to the Australian team.

00:02:10.68
Adz
Yep.

00:02:15.97
Adz
We don't say Matisse Thiebel because he wasn't selected.

00:02:16.49
youcantcompthis
So, yeah.

00:02:18.73
Adz
Anyway, I'm not going to get into that tie, right? Um, look, did you, I watched the US Canada scratch match the other day. That was interesting.

00:02:27.34
youcantcompthis
Where did you watch it?

00:02:28.40
Adz
Uh, it was on Foxtel on ESPN.

00:02:29.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

00:02:31.18
Adz
Yeah.

00:02:31.09
youcantcompthis
I've been having a few problems getting a clean stream.

00:02:34.52
Adz
Yep.

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youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:02:35.70
Adz
Yep. The, um, I think the Australian, the the Aussies take on the U S in a couple of days. So that'll be interesting, but I don't know the Australians in the the pool of death. And I think it's pretty much, um, it is going to team USA all the way with maybe a couple of interesting challenges from some familiar parts of the world.

00:02:57.43
youcantcompthis
I think no matter what pool they were put into, it's all looks pretty competitive to me, to be honest. There's not really weak teams going through.

00:03:03.14
Adz
Mmm.

00:03:04.33
youcantcompthis
Like typically what would happen for the Olympics is that the host country would be deemed the weakest team because they get the automatic berth.

00:03:05.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:12.01
youcantcompthis
But this French team is looking insane.

00:03:12.65
Adz
True. ah The French team's got Victor Wembenjana and, and Rudy Gobert. So I would not be a fan of going up against the French.

00:03:18.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:03:21.65
Adz
So do you think it could be a a France USA final?

00:03:25.66
youcantcompthis
I hope it's USA and Canada. That seems to me the most obvious one straight up, but at the same time, I get the feeling it's gonna be a really good Olympic series.

00:03:30.12
Adz
Mmm.

00:03:34.75
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:36.08
youcantcompthis
I'm really looking forward to it, so yeah.

00:03:37.72
Adz
Do you know who doesn't think it's gonna be a good Olympic series? Luca Dontich, because he's not going.

00:03:43.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

00:03:44.50
Adz
Hmm, because Janas kicked them out, anyway.

00:03:48.64
youcantcompthis
It took you three minutes, 50 seconds to get your Luca jab in.

00:03:49.16
Adz
Yep, yep.

00:03:55.01
Adz
That's it, I could have gone with the Luca jab before the Trump shot, but you know. Oh God, a missed jump shot is now called a Trump shot.

00:03:59.77
youcantcompthis
I beat you to it.

00:04:06.01
Adz
Just saying.

00:04:07.27
youcantcompthis
I don't think so.

00:04:08.25
Adz
Are we gonna get canceled for this?

00:04:10.88
youcantcompthis
We pay our own bills, don't we?

00:04:11.11
Adz
Oh, good. Yeah, this is fine.

00:04:12.24
youcantcompthis
so yeah But there's too many shots to be called a Trump shot.

00:04:13.07
Adz
We'll be fine. Yep.

00:04:17.69
youcantcompthis
There has to be a very particular shot. We'll have to delve into this a bit deeper.

00:04:24.24
Adz
We'll get the technicalities of what a missed jump shot being called a Trump shot means.

00:04:28.44
youcantcompthis
yeah

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Adz
Yep.

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youcantcompthis
All right, let's get started with some content ads. So there's been a few things on my mind this week that Caitlin Clark getting her own blasters is one of them. I'm still mulling over this whole Rob Dillingham thing, so I've fleshed that out. I've got that in later into the show.

00:04:45.57
Adz
Mmhmm.

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youcantcompthis
And the other big one that happened this week was a collector who bought six PSA 10 Jordans, cracked them, had Jordan sign them, and then they were straight away. regraded with PSA so I think we should talk about that but I want to talk about Caitlin Clark first because there's two parts of this meet.

00:05:06.89
Adz
Mmhmm.

00:05:06.98
youcantcompthis
The first part is obviously Pini wants to cash in on Caitlin Clark's popularity and then also too I think it gives us a snapshot as to where Pini will be going in the next five to ten years. I think we're going to be seeing more of these type of out of the left field, so to speak, product ideas.

00:05:25.01
Adz
Okay.

00:05:26.32
youcantcompthis
And so the one thing it did make me think about, though, too, was that if they did have when Benyatta signing for them or when B or Victor, can you imagine how much he of his own product when B would be getting right now? Like if Caitlin Clark is getting this type of treatment,

00:05:43.05
Adz
Well, do you think fanatics will follow suit and there'll be a wimpy product?

00:05:51.23
youcantcompthis
I think people would buy it, but already Fanatics, Fanatics are already doing a Wembley product in a sense because they're just selling his autograph cards on their website.

00:05:54.08
Adz
That's true.

00:06:01.28
youcantcompthis
So, you know, in a way they're, yeah, in a way they're already doing it to a degree.

00:06:02.22
Adz
Yeah, why would you need to crack packs for it? Just go and buy a card, done.

00:06:07.88
youcantcompthis
So. So if you haven't seen this online, it's a blaster product and you can get Caitlin Clark autographs in it. Every single card that's in there is Caitlin Clark. So if you go into eBay, you'll see heaps of, you know, basically all the different tickets is in it.

00:06:24.04
Adz
I'm sharing the screen at the moment of the of the sold.

00:06:25.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So it's like a Chronicles type product. It's got Don Russ in it. it's got the Contenders Season Ticket, it's got the Raining Threes insert, it's got a three, oh it's like ah a celebration of how many points that she scored, there's a crunch time insert in there, so there's pictures of her when she was in Juniors playing, so look I think

00:06:47.65
Adz
What?

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youcantcompthis
I don't have a massive problem with this. The price point on it at the moment is pretty friendly. The comps on it are selling around $35 US s to $39 a box plus postage. So it's not like it's $200, $300. I don't have a massive problem with this. Do I think it's a cash grab? Yeah, I do. Yeah, sort of as simple as that. so

00:07:15.89
Adz
Like, it's it it's that's literally it. It's it's it's it's what it is.

00:07:21.78
Adz
That's a draft, yeah. I'm just going through one of the posts.

00:07:24.11
youcantcompthis
I think, and if we drill this down a little bit more, you know, Panini's a company that's trying to make money.

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Adz
um

00:07:31.29
youcantcompthis
Their options for autographs have been severely limited this year because of fanatics and how they basically poached away the athletes, you know, to exclusive deals. So, you know, I'm not super surprised to see stuff like this. Keeping in the Caitlin Clark

00:07:47.79
youcantcompthis
Vayne we've got here from at PSA Card just graded a one-of-one Bowman University laundry tags has been graded. Gem Mint 10 and also Autograph 10 on that too so in terms of collectability.

00:08:06.99
Adz
Nice.

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youcantcompthis
Do you like laundry tags in in cards? Is that something that does it really for you or not so much of a big deal?

00:08:13.06
Adz
Not really. um Yeah, not my thing. Laundry tag is is is a bit, yeah.

00:08:22.52
youcantcompthis
So I put just the napkin patch at the bottom, then maybe a two colored patch in there. Then I'd put the laundry tag, then I'd put a three color. The one that's up number one for me is when they have the sponsorship logos cut into there. So some of the teams have got Jordan, some of the teams are Nike and you know, whatever else that, you know, come in there.

00:08:40.08
Adz
Ooh.

00:08:43.89
youcantcompthis
Those for me and my pinnacle patches, i I love those. I just completely froth over those. So I put this as like a level three patch, I suppose.

00:08:48.46
Adz
Okay. Okay.

00:08:52.54
Adz
Okay.

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youcantcompthis
Yeah.

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Adz
It's an interest. It's different, but I wouldn't say it's particularly exciting. The laundry tag.

00:09:01.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Now keeping the same Caitlin Clark vein or thought.

00:09:04.22
Adz
Hmm.

00:09:04.20
youcantcompthis
Now this came, I need to give credit to this, to the guys from the WNBA chat room that I'm in.

00:09:10.70
Adz
one of many chat rooms that you're in.

00:09:12.85
youcantcompthis
and I do and enjoy a good chat room when it comes to sports cards. So what they were talking about in the chat room was who are the other athletes who have also got their own products. So they definitely helped me out a lot and pointed me in the right direction. So 100% credit to them. But I also dug up a few other ones, too. So obviously, we just talked about Caitlin Clark, 2003, 2004, Upper Deck LeBron James.

00:09:39.72
youcantcompthis
2003-2004 Lebron James Phenomenal Beginnings. 2004-2005 Upper Deck Rivals Lebron versus Kamalo Anthony. Then it got a little bit more interesting later on down through this list. 2015 Kobe Bryant Hero and Villains set, which I reckon you'll be very familiar with those. And those cards are pretty readily available still.

00:10:00.95
Adz
I yeah, I had I had some of those. Yep Yep, they are there was they had like ah a base set the subs like at the sub hot.

00:10:09.68
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:10:10.20
Adz
Yeah, the holograms. Yeah, of course Mm

00:10:12.60
youcantcompthis
1998 upper deck MJX sealed hobby box, 24 packets. Now that's got the black cover, obviously with the ah goat's face on it.

00:10:21.27
Adz
-hmm

00:10:22.31
youcantcompthis
If you're looking for the pictures on these, just go to our Facebook page. I've put them all up on there. And I left this one to last. The 1999 2000 upper deck Michael Jordan master collection box set, numbered to 500. And every single box gets a Jordan autograph in there. And even the box alone is just, Amazing, actually looks like a cigar box.

00:10:42.04
Adz
That's pretty special.

00:10:43.52
youcantcompthis
I can imagine Jordan taking the cards out and just dumping all these cigars in there, to be honest. Off the top of your head, did I miss any?

00:10:52.55
Adz
No, I would have referred to the the hero villain set. um like ah that As soon as you said the Caitlyn Clark, I'm like, oh, it's interesting that it's a Chronicles format, like the Caitlyn Clark product, that it's cards that have been printed elsewhere.

00:10:55.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right, okay.

00:11:10.16
youcantcompthis
I don't want to sound cup half empty, but I suspect that's because they already had the templated art there and they just shifted it across and then put the sticker autos out onto the product and you know, Bob's your uncle.

00:11:17.47
Adz
well sure sure i'm i'm more concerned with because i i was looking at these ebay auctions and what was about so there's the you know pick your card auctions and i noticed that certain cards get grayed out very quickly and it's stuff like the razzle dazzle caitlin clark right like that's a good insert to get oh oh it's gray of course all the base stuff's available but

00:11:27.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:11:44.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:46.61
Adz
Does that dilute the pool by adding copies of a card? Like, how does this work?

00:11:56.46
Adz
Am I reading too much into it? Or it's like, is it, are you flooding the market unnecessarily with?

00:12:01.34
youcantcompthis
So at the moment, I can actually answer this question reasonably confidently. So at the moment, WNBA product is currently limited to prism, revolution and origins.

00:12:11.40
Adz
Okay.

00:12:14.09
Adz
okay

00:12:14.19
youcantcompthis
And origins is a hybrid of origins, but it also has blank slates in it.

00:12:20.83
Adz
Okay.

00:12:23.14
youcantcompthis
So these other the inserts that are currently in this blaster are not, yeah, sort of just for that product.

00:12:28.79
Adz
Our exclusive? Okay.

00:12:31.98
youcantcompthis
Also too, this is a, well, it's a college product.

00:12:33.02
Adz
Does that make it more collectible?

00:12:35.50
youcantcompthis
So it's also got that sort of clear delineation between that and MBA.

00:12:39.00
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, true, true.

00:12:39.57
youcantcompthis
So almost call this a bridging thing, but I don't think this is

00:12:42.25
Adz
and Okay.

00:12:44.00
youcantcompthis
I don't think you're buying these boxes ad for the razzle dazzle inserts and the crunch time.

00:12:49.48
Adz
Yeah, you mod the autos.

00:12:49.76
youcantcompthis
You just getting this for the hope you'll get a Caitlin Clark autograph. I think if we're being realistic here. Yeah.

00:12:55.39
Adz
Yep, yep, that's what the hero villain set was was all about, the the autos. They were very, very sparse with the Kobi autos.

00:13:00.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's it. And you can pick up those hero villain cards for a couple of bucks each. I suspect this is going to be the same thing, mate.

00:13:06.50
Adz
Yeah, yep, cool, cool.

00:13:06.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:13:09.19
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:13:09.49
Adz
It's an interesting checklist though, like it comes across like it's, yeah, cards from other sets, but it's not, yeah.

00:13:17.06
youcantcompthis
Jordan autographs. Where are you at with this? How do you feel about this story?

00:13:25.39
Adz
Jordan, the rookie card stuff.

00:13:30.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so basically the outcome is now there's six FLIR autographed cards, all PSA 10, all autos 10 in one person's collection.

00:13:31.16
Adz
Well, they weren't.

00:13:41.19
Adz
Certified debt, yep. Certified.

00:13:47.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah, they're certified, but they're also gem in 10 and autograph 10.

00:13:50.64
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:13:52.54
youcantcompthis
Alright, so my first thought is they could have used a different color pen because the contrast on the cards isn't fantastic.

00:13:58.96
Adz
ah agreed

00:13:58.95
youcantcompthis
Like maybe a thin white marker or a thin silver marker would have been really nice on that or even

00:13:59.41
Adz
Agreed.

00:14:04.47
Adz
Silver would have been amazing.

00:14:06.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah, or even gold, because I just feel like that sort of thick blue marker, they might have left an opportunity open there, but that's here or there.

00:14:15.57
Adz
Meh.

00:14:17.18
youcantcompthis
I think most people look past that.

00:14:19.39
Adz
I think, I think that's, yeah, that's gonna be fine a bit.

00:14:23.74
youcantcompthis
So for me, it's really important these were graded with PSA. I think that's very, very important.

00:14:28.22
Adz
That's huge. Correct.

00:14:28.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah, because there's no point in these being graded with BGS.

00:14:29.42
Adz
Yep.

00:14:32.03
youcantcompthis
They don't have that money but guarantee. you They don't have that sort of protection there. So for me, that's a no-go. So I'm very glad that they're PSA.

00:14:42.86
Adz
Yep.

00:14:42.89
youcantcompthis
What I do worry about in general on these cards is that we don't exactly know how many of them are out there in terms of the population. so

00:14:52.22
Adz
ye

00:14:53.59
youcantcompthis
That's where I've always felt about these cards. While they're the most important card and it might be the most valuable card, you know, basically in NBA card collectibles. And i I understand that. I also find it maybe also the most overinflated card. And this is probably a good example as to that because if, so there's one potential buyer that said, oh, I've offered a hundred million dollars on these, which was straight away turned down.

00:15:17.82
Adz
Yeah, this is the this is the story, right?

00:15:20.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:20.75
Adz
that that they've been This person's allegedly been offered $100 million dollars for the cards.

00:15:24.73
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I just think it puts a hard cap on all the other ones that are now out out there because there was a time, yes, it was during COVID, but there was a time when people were talking about this card being, a you know, a million dollar card. So I think for me, it really limits the unautographed cards of these, in a you know, very, it puts a very hard ceiling onto them immediately.

00:15:39.76
Adz
I've got...

00:15:45.60
youcantcompthis
So, yeah.

00:15:47.40
Adz
But what's the, so, and we'll, they deny, they decline the offer, right?

00:15:54.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:54.73
Adz
So I'm just gonna, let's even just make it 90 million. Say say that he had accepted in an offer of 90 million, that's $15 million dollars a card.

00:16:02.45
youcantcompthis
Sure. Yeah.

00:16:07.01
Adz
Right? So for 50, so if one of these is a $20 million dollars card,

00:16:14.89
Adz
Surely the unautographed one, potentially one day reaching a million isn't i out of the question.

00:16:19.43
youcantcompthis
Oh, really? So you think it still could get to a million.

00:16:22.15
Adz
well if if the Well, what is the auto? What does the auto add? Is it ah is it a is it a multiplier or is it ah just a different cap, right?

00:16:33.35
youcantcompthis
Okay, sure.

00:16:34.58
Adz
So my thing is that this card could be a million dollar, could be a $2 million dollars card, but that won't change this from going from a $20 million dollars card to, I don't know, a $25 million dollars card, a $50 million dollars card.

00:16:34.62
youcantcompthis
Well.

00:16:46.79
Adz
I don't know how crazy the industry's going to be in 25 years, but do you know what I mean?

00:16:49.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:16:51.64
Adz
Like I don't think the two are exclusively, it's not mutually exclusive.

00:16:51.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

00:16:55.86
Adz
they They're definitely on different trajectories. If somebody knocked back an offer of $100 million dollars for these six,

00:17:05.88
Adz
Why do we say no, but I'll sell you one for 20 million?

00:17:09.82
youcantcompthis
Well, I actually think they'll be kept together as a set. Sorry, and I didn't cover this before.

00:17:14.70
Adz
Hmm. um

00:17:15.14
youcantcompthis
So they have different inscriptions on them. Six-time NBA champ, 84, 85 rookie of the year, 87, 88 defensive player of the year, and five-time NBA MVP.

00:17:27.38
Adz
That's four.

00:17:27.49
youcantcompthis
And it looks like one of them are just his autograph. Two of them are just his autograph.

00:17:33.52
Adz
Okay.

00:17:33.42
youcantcompthis
Yep. So I think this will be a set.

00:17:37.13
Adz
You reckon it's a set. Wouldn't you just sell one of the auto ones then? If you've got two autos, two just the auto, I think the set of four and maybe a set of five with the thing.

00:17:40.18
youcantcompthis
Maybe. Yeah.

00:17:48.61
Adz
So, but when were these alleged to be signed?

00:17:49.27
youcantcompthis
yeah Yeah.

00:17:54.65
youcantcompthis
Literally in the last two weeks.

00:17:56.67
Adz
Wow, so Jordan actually signed these recently.

00:17:57.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:18:00.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:18:03.20
youcantcompthis
So there's some funny conspiracy theory stories coming out about this that Jordan's in debt with

00:18:10.30
youcantcompthis
card sharks and other gamblers and stuff like that. And the reason why he had to come out, come out and do this favor is to, you know, get out of trouble again or something like that, which is kind of funny.

00:18:13.45
Adz
No way on earth.

00:18:19.34
youcantcompthis
Like he's also just sold the Charlotte Hornets.

00:18:20.09
Adz
That's hilarious.

00:18:22.35
youcantcompthis
I don't think he's short of cash at the moment for some reason.

00:18:26.15
Adz
Yeah, I think it'd be fine.

00:18:27.87
youcantcompthis
All right. So let's talk about the Jordan 1986 base flee a PSA 10 population. And this is 331.

00:18:36.40
Adz
Yep.

00:18:36.52
youcantcompthis
It last sold for $198,000.

00:18:40.61
Adz
Yeah, 200K is the, yeah.

00:18:40.56
youcantcompthis
So using your, so using your multiplier rule, what's the multiplier on that? Like 20 times.

00:18:48.23
Adz
20, yeah, Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Wait, 20 million.

00:18:58.27
youcantcompthis
That's times a hundred. Here we go.

00:19:00.38
Adz
Yeah.

00:19:00.32
youcantcompthis
Look at us doing numbers on live podcast here. This is fantastic.

00:19:04.35
Adz
It's 100X.

00:19:05.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:19:06.29
Adz
But that's the thing, like if you say this is a million dollar card, 20X is if it was a 20 million dollar, like I don't know.

00:19:16.60
youcantcompthis
It seems ridiculous that it's 100x.

00:19:17.96
Adz
100X for the auto, I think they're just different cards.

00:19:19.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah,

00:19:21.78
Adz
so My thought is that now they're autographed, they're not part of the normal population of this card.

00:19:28.14
youcantcompthis
sure.

00:19:29.96
Adz
um So they don't fit into a traditional population.

00:19:33.22
youcantcompthis
So they shouldn't be in card ladder in that population count.

00:19:35.67
Adz
Yeah, yeah, so it's a different population report.

00:19:36.41
youcantcompthis
yes so Yeah, Yeah.

00:19:40.08
Adz
And that's why I was like, oh, maybe they've got, they got two of the single autos so they could have the set of five and then have a six to on forward for $20 million.

00:19:51.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah, buy hodles.

00:19:52.60
Adz
Cause they would at work. Wait, hang on. So the highest price I sold for is a bit as a BGS as a PSA 10 is 200 K.

00:20:04.09
youcantcompthis
That's the current price.

00:20:05.51
Adz
Right. So if I bought, if I so bought six of these, for $1.2 million. dollars and Got them graded, whatever that costs to me. I don't think it'll cost quite those ridiculous numbers.

00:20:22.08
youcantcompthis
So the highest price ever is $645,000.

00:20:23.71
Adz
Okay,

00:20:27.19
Adz
okay

00:20:27.55
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:20:28.04
Adz
that's different. But if I but if i spend under 2 million anyway, we'll say under 2 million to acquire six of these,

00:20:29.01
youcantcompthis
Useless piece of information for you, but yeah.

00:20:35.01
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:20:35.63
Adz
I, for whatever it costs me, say, I don't know what it costs me to get Jordan's autograph.

00:20:39.89
youcantcompthis
What do you think it would cost to get Jordan's autograph like that?

00:20:40.17
Adz
What deal? so I don't have no idea. I reckon you'd have to be like, I reckon you'd have to be playing some high state gambling in some respect, and he would have to lose and part of the loss would be he'd have to agree to sign cards.

00:20:44.15
youcantcompthis
Half a million.

00:20:54.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I still think you'd have to pay him at least half a million in autograph.

00:20:55.25
Adz
You know what I mean? There, it'd be like, you get a million dollars, but you have to sign my cards.

00:20:57.85
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:21:01.74
Adz
And he's like, all right, you've got a bet. And then he loses and goes, guess I better of sign your cards, whatever, give me my million dollars. And then signs these cards, but for your investment, and we're talking some serious money right now, but you're like, I've spent 2 million, maybe 3 to guarantee when they're regraded as PSA 10s, that I'm going to be offered $100 million. dollars That's an interesting,

00:21:32.79
Adz
case to be made.

00:21:32.76
youcantcompthis
All right. What's your final thought on this? and I think we should go to a break.

00:21:38.45
Adz
In the break, I'm gonna go and um go and see what well I can get signed by Jordan. And no, I'm like, it's it's a crazy investment. Can you imagine do it? I'm just, I'm, I'm, my final thought is, wow, that's a hell of a risk for one hell of a reward.

00:21:54.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:21:55.80
Adz
Because if it doesn't come back 10, 10, you've also got other issues, but.

00:22:00.96
youcantcompthis
So apparently PSA was there for the whole thing. So they just cracked them out of the case, got them to sign them. PSA put them straight back in basically. So that's kind of cool.

00:22:08.10
Adz
Wow. Okay. Did PSA help get them out?

00:22:09.83
youcantcompthis
So my, I have no idea.

00:22:13.64
Adz
Hmm. Conspiracies. Yep.

00:22:16.42
youcantcompthis
My final thought is that some people are playing chess and some people are playing checkers. I think this guy is clearly playing chess. And as much as I hate the purchase price of the the base PSA 10s for $200,000 or whatever they're currently trading at, I love these at whatever price they're going to go for, if that makes sense.

00:22:28.16
Adz
Hmm. Yeah.

00:22:36.10
youcantcompthis
so

00:22:36.22
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

00:22:38.42
youcantcompthis
But again, it's just these type of cards are just the ones that you dream of. I don't ever imagine owning it for myself. Do you know what I mean? Like I never really, these cards are sort of just space cards for me. You know, it's like going to the moon one day. Just, I don't really dream about it. So, yeah.

00:22:53.98
Adz
It's all like, yeah, it's, it's like those pretend poker tables where you're like, I was betting a million dollars and you're like a virtual money.

00:23:00.33
youcantcompthis
It's all right.

00:23:01.80
Adz
Right. It's all virtual currency in my eyes.

00:23:03.21
youcantcompthis
In Slottomania.

00:23:03.86
Adz
Cause no way. um yeah

00:23:04.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I know how awesome is Slottomania, right? Yeah. Alrighty, let's go to an ad.

00:23:10.28
Adz
Let's do it.

00:24:23.56
youcantcompthis
We're back at?

00:24:24.85
Adz
We're back.

00:24:25.94
youcantcompthis
How's your break?

00:24:26.95
Adz
It was great. i um I couldn't find any Jordan rookies to get Jordan to sign, unfortunately.

00:24:31.98
youcantcompthis
Okay. 

00:24:33.73
Adz
There are a couple of random just Jordan cards. I wonder if you'll sign those and yep.

00:24:37.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:24:39.57
Adz
The PSA nines that maybe you'll get the, no, anyway.

00:24:44.84
youcantcompthis
Alrighty. Owner offers reward after video captures thieves stealing $2 million dollars in baseball cards. Alright, I'm sure everyone's seen this all over social media anyway, but I think we should talk about this ad because

00:24:55.37
Adz
This is a hell of a story.

00:25:06.49
youcantcompthis
Oh, there's so many unanswered questions for me on this. So basically they were packing up from their show. They had $2 million dollars worth of cards sitting in an unintended briefcase. The people who stole them were basically casing out the place all day. They then pretended to be workers at the event who then distracted the owner. They came in and took the briefcase and basically just walked out.

00:25:32.41
Adz
Yep.

00:25:34.33
youcantcompthis
So the I see this from two sides. I definitely agree that there's people up to some mischief here, but I'm not 100% too sure that the person who owned the cards, and this is just my personal opinion. It's supported by no evidence, but this is my gut feeling after reading and looking at all through the video. I don't think that the owner is without blame here too, because if you have $2 million dollars worth of cards, why on earth are you just leaving it unattended under a table and not

00:26:06.60
youcantcompthis
handcuff to yourself or to a security guard or something along these lines, right?

00:26:10.90
Adz
Mmm.

00:26:12.57
youcantcompthis
So and then the other thing too is how quickly they came up with their inventory lists and all the pictures of all the cards that were supposed to be in that box and it just seemed to me like there was so many cards that were fitting into that, you know, really small box. It's a bit like an insurance job where your garage gets broken into instead of having two lawnmowers stolen or one lawnmower stolen you say oh actually it was two lawnmowers and a whipper snipper and a leaf blower and a polisher for my car and and the list sort of just gets bigger and bigger and it comes back as an insurance job so

00:26:42.93
Adz
Yeah, yeah. It's it's pretty cooked. I don't know. I was just watching the video again and I was like, there's gotta be some onus, but just like, if you've got that, we've all been to trade shows, but come on, keep an eye on your stuff.

00:27:05.01
youcantcompthis
I think particularly if it's $2 million dollars worth of stuff, I think if you can afford to lose something and you're happy not to watch it 100% of the time, I think that's fine. But if it's that much money, you probably shouldn't be leaving it unattended.

00:27:21.34
Adz
Yep, I agree.

00:27:21.97
youcantcompthis
I think just to add

00:27:22.22
Adz
I like, I just, that's bizarre.

00:27:25.57
youcantcompthis
And just to add to my sort of conspiracy take on this, I think if we're being realistic too about people who have been in the hobby the last couple of years back, and we spoke about this recently where we're talking about people who were buyers and sell and sellers at vendor shops and then they had cards that were now say four times over comps, but they weren't willing to sell it for less than that because that's to the purchase price that they had it at.

00:27:39.34
Adz
Hmm, yeah.

00:27:47.23
Adz
The purchase price of the card was so, yeah, of course, of course.

00:27:49.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So if you're, if this is all you do and now you've just experienced two years of basically losses on all of the purchases that you've just made, there is some incentive to do a huge insurance deal like this.

00:27:56.06
Adz
Downturn. Yep.

00:28:04.05
youcantcompthis
But the thing also that's really got me interested about this too is like, if you're an insurance company paying out, and everyone can see this footage, wouldn't you use this footage just to deny the claim to say, well, you haven't taken enough responsibility you know for your possessions and we find you liable. you know We're not going to be paying for your silly mistake.

00:28:28.28
Adz
Yeah, it's, I'm curious to know what the insurance company are gonna do about it.

00:28:38.94
youcantcompthis
I wonder if that's also why too they're trying so hard to get the message out there.

00:28:43.92
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:28:46.84
youcantcompthis
Because they can't rely on insurance to come back and pay for it.

00:28:52.13
Adz
Yeah, it's, and now but, won't the insurance company take the what's happening into consideration. Like the video has been circulating. There's a level of, man, you should have taken better care of your stuff.

00:29:11.03
Adz
Like where are your security precautions that show, do you know what I mean? If they if you get your car stolen and it's worth $100,000 and they go, okay, well, here's another $100,000, go get another car, right?

00:29:15.78
youcantcompthis
Oh, yeah.

00:29:25.09
Adz
but it's been all over the news that your garage was left wide open with the keys there.

00:29:33.47
Adz
Are they gonna go, here's your 100K or no, your car wasn't secured appropriately.

00:29:37.24
youcantcompthis
I don't think so. I think, I think the answer is no, definitely.

00:29:40.76
Adz
So it just, we'll see how this all plays out, I think.

00:29:44.54
youcantcompthis
The other juicy, yeah, absolutely. I'm definitely keen to follow this up.

00:29:47.68
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:48.52
youcantcompthis
So the other juicy one for me too, is that there's obviously the photos of the guy, you know, the bucket head on the big glasses and someone online identified him as a a trader from Romania and he's already back on a plane back to Romania. So that's like another really juicy sort of conspiracy theory, isn't it?

00:30:01.42
Adz
Mmm.

00:30:04.51
Adz
Not on a plane to Australia. That's that's bizarre. normally Normally they escape to to Melbourne.

00:30:06.89
youcantcompthis
Actually, yeah, to Australia. Yeah.

00:30:10.04
Adz
That's it. It's the sunny Melbourne.

00:30:10.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:30:13.22
youcantcompthis
Unbelievable. All right, let's just talk some straight card porn. So Steph Curry 2013-14, Prism Gold, so this is numbered to 10, BGS 9.5. Last sold for $48,000. Looking at the graph here from 2017 to current, it's literally just a straight line up.

00:30:30.67
Adz
Hmm.

00:30:37.53
youcantcompthis
Looks like there was a couple of sales here for around the sort of $1,000 mark at the start.

00:30:42.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:42.71
youcantcompthis
And then it took this huge uptick all the way up to $35,000 that was in around.

00:30:48.57
Adz
2021.

00:30:50.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yep, just, but just, oh yeah, you're right.

00:30:51.29
Adz
Like it was, yeah.

00:30:53.55
youcantcompthis
This is right on 2021, isn't it? And then a little bit up and down until this last sale up here, which is the all time high. Population six on this, which is, I suppose that's right, isn't it? BGS was the king at that time.

00:31:02.78
Adz
Yeah.

00:31:05.87
Adz
It's incredible how the cards gone from, because that 2021 sale is that COVID crazy market explosion.

00:31:13.26
youcantcompthis
Absolutely. Yeah.

00:31:15.82
Adz
And cards were going for 10X what they should go for. We say should, I guess.

00:31:19.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:21.80
Adz
It didn't deflate like most other cards have.

00:31:26.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:27.40
Adz
Like going from 35 to 30K is not really deflating given the previous sale was like $1,000. You know what I mean?

00:31:36.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:37.68
Adz
And then, and then to, yeah, you'd expect it down to the five to 10K range, right?

00:31:37.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So you're saying if it was affected by the COVID crazy, it should go down 50% from that 35,000. Yep. Yep.

00:31:46.40
Adz
To go back to its normal ballpark. But it looks like it's sort of the lowest it went was 30 and then it bounced again.

00:31:49.63
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:31:53.24
Adz
So because it's a low pop, it's numbered to 10. So pop six is probably, that means 60% gem rate.

00:32:03.59
youcantcompthis
I'd like to hear Ryan's take on this, but I suspect that this card's been sent back in more than one time because I think for only 10 to be in existence and 6 and 9.5s to me the logic that's not all there for me particularly you would have think at least some have been sent to PSA too and some would still be out in the wild surely I can't all be available

00:32:12.51
Adz
Six of them, they... Mmm.

00:32:24.12
Adz
Yep.

00:32:29.52
Adz
Hmm.

00:32:29.58
youcantcompthis
Look, I think if you zoom out on this and you look at the hobby from a bigger perspective, I think this really emphasizes to me how important Steph Curry is and how valuable he is within the the hobby card collecting community. So this to me is pretty big, actually.

00:32:43.52
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:32:45.10
youcantcompthis
So I like this sale a lot because it just emphasizes. And again, going back to what Ryan was saying a while back about buying Steph Curry rookies.

00:32:53.45
Adz
Yep.

00:32:54.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:55.07
Adz
Yep.

00:32:57.37
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, now let's just go to some regular everyday NBA news. I've got this in no really particular order. I've tried to do the big stuff first and then we'll sort of go into some of the smaller stuff. But why don't we just do a quick one and then we will have a break and then we'll come back and do one of the bigger ones. So let's do the DeMar DeRozan trade first.

00:33:16.71
Adz
Oh, okay. Yep.

00:33:18.74
youcantcompthis
So Sacramento Kings, San Antonio Spurs,

00:33:21.63
Adz
Yep.

00:33:25.99
youcantcompthis
and there was a third team involved in this trade too, of course the Chicago Bulls.

00:33:29.90
Adz
Um, yep.

00:33:31.40
youcantcompthis
So the Kings get DeMar DeRozan, I'm not super high on this, I'm not exactly sure how he's going to fit into it, but DeRozan actually has a clause in his contract that if he makes the All-Star team he gets a kicker. So that to me means he's not going to be coming off the bench. He's not going to be on the bench in the fourth quarter. I think he's going to expect a pretty big role, which probably in my mind means he's going to start at the three and Keegan Murray will start at the four.

00:33:59.09
Adz
Okay.

00:33:59.92
youcantcompthis
So anyway, we'll see how it goes. I'm not super high on this. The Spurs get Harrison Barnes. I think that's a really good veteran for the Spurs to get.

00:34:06.78
Adz
Yep.

00:34:08.51
youcantcompthis
And then the Bulls get basically salary cap relief and they get two second round picks. They also get Chris Duarte. Look, I think if you're the type of person like me who was saying the Bulls should have been blown up and they DeRozan should have been traded for something, you know, last year or the year before that, I think they would have got a lot more back.

00:34:28.91
Adz
Yeah, but I think they did wait too long.

00:34:29.89
youcantcompthis
than Chris Duarte's. Yeah. But at the same time too, it's not a terrible return considering the fact that DeRozan is what 36 years old now.

00:34:34.18
Adz
For sure.

00:34:39.78
youcantcompthis
So it's better than nothing.

00:34:40.36
Adz
Yep.

00:34:42.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:34:42.82
Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's very true.

00:34:44.67
youcantcompthis
All right. Let's take a break out and we'll be right back.

00:35:03.93
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, we are back. This is part three of episode 153.

00:35:09.10
Adz
hot Part three of 153.

00:35:12.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that sort of rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

00:35:15.67
Adz
Very, very poetic.

00:35:17.38
youcantcompthis
Kate Cunningham is back with the Pistons on a 5-year $224 million dollars maximum rookie extension that could be worth as much as $269 million. dollars Obviously that's all to do with incentives. That's a lot of incentives. What's that? $45 million dollars just for incentives.

00:35:36.47
Adz
That's um that's ah it's a lot of incentives, but warranted?

00:35:42.10
youcantcompthis
Look, I think if you're a team like Detroit, you need to spend the money on something. I think it's good to say this is our star and you're going to take us as far as we're going to go. He very quietly averaged 22.7 points, 7.5 assists last year and 86.9% from the free throw line. Look, I really like Cade's game. I think the obvious the obvious issue with this guy, his team absolutely stinks and they were really hard to watch last year.

00:36:06.89
Adz
And yeah, yeah, it's it's true.

00:36:11.63
youcantcompthis
They've had a massive off-season overhaul, fired their head coach.

00:36:17.81
Adz
They owed the coach a lot of money too.

00:36:20.00
youcantcompthis
they'll be paying him out. They've made a few off-season moves too so mostly around Malik Beasley bringing in some sort of 3 and D off the bench and there was another shooter they also got to.

00:36:23.59
Adz
Hmm.

00:36:29.53
youcantcompthis
I think that was the main thing they tried to do in off-season was get some shooting around the rest of the guys asked because that was what they needed but Jalen Duran's looked really good in the team USA warm-ups.

00:36:33.47
Adz
Hmm.

00:36:38.91
youcantcompthis
He was giving the the first USA team some trouble inside so I really like to see that but

00:36:41.22
Adz
Yeah, yep.

00:36:46.94
youcantcompthis
The next one for us to talk about is Tyrese Maxi, and we're going to do a direct comp with Maxi and Cade in a second too. So Maxi gets five years, $204 million dollars with the sixes, which is still a big deal, $20 million dollars less than what Cade is getting. But I would put that down to all the other assets that the 76ers have now put into their team. Obviously with Paul George, they picked up Kayla Martin too.

00:37:11.79
Adz
and Larry Ray signed.

00:37:12.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah, Larry resigned too, so I think that to me is that where that $20 million dollars difference has gone to, but still that's a really good outcome, I think, for Maxi.

00:37:18.86
Adz
Yep.

00:37:21.54
Adz
It's a very good result for Maxi, I think. and Yeah. Philly, you're looking all right.

00:37:24.99
youcantcompthis
Very, yeah, very interestingly, I was very soft bidding on a Maxi and also a Kade this week, and I was shocked to see the end point of the two auctions, so basically they finished at the same point.

00:37:39.19
Adz
Really?

00:37:41.07
youcantcompthis
the Maxi finished at 275 and the Cade finished at 270. So I think this is the perfect time for us is to do a you know a one versus one.

00:37:47.60
Adz
Incredible.

00:37:51.57
youcantcompthis
And who would you take, Ed?

00:37:52.46
Adz
Mm, good old you can't comp this. Who would you take? I will take the Cade Cunningham.

00:37:55.57
youcantcompthis
Yep. Yeah, okay.

00:37:58.52
Adz
I'm on the Cade train.

00:37:59.91
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:38:00.95
Adz
I don't know, I'm sticking with him.

00:38:06.05
youcantcompthis
So I think And that's fine. I don't really have a, like a problem with that at all. If you look at Cade's pricing the last six months, he's actually up 40%. Rosie, if you look at, he had a massive downtick.

00:38:15.04
Adz
Mm.

00:38:18.32
youcantcompthis
So I think before that six months, he was up a lot higher than that and he's fallen right down.

00:38:18.85
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:38:24.13
youcantcompthis
He's recovered.

00:38:24.39
Adz
but So to to back up my point rather than just, ah yes, I take the Cade, I definitely think Cade is a number one guy.

00:38:28.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, no, please do. Yeah.

00:38:33.24
Adz
I think when Detroit, the new Detroit emerge, he will be the number one if not the number, he's not the number one, he'll be the number two, right? I don't think Maxie's ever going to be, he never he's never going to be the number one guy in Philly. Embiid is the number one guy in Philly. And now Paul George has come in. So Maxie's definitely not in the top two. So I just don't, I don't see his ceiling being as high anymore long-term. I'm not saying his skill's not gonna be.

00:39:04.30
Adz
I'm just, I think Cade will be in the spotlight in a bigger way than Maxie.

00:39:09.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:10.24
Adz
So that's why I'm sort of going in on Cade for this one.

00:39:17.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think, well, in my head, Kate is going to be the number one on that team until a significantly better talent comes in.

00:39:26.39
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:39:26.67
youcantcompthis
So for example, if they tank again this year, and they get the number one pick again, then you could make that argument. Okay, sure.

00:39:31.98
Adz
Sure. Yeah.

00:39:33.04
youcantcompthis
But I really like Kate as a

00:39:35.75
Adz
Yep.

00:39:36.10
youcantcompthis
all NBA type player, you know, whether it's going to be the second or third team. But I think in the future, there's no reason he shouldn't be in the top 10 or 10 or 15 players in the league.

00:39:42.33
Adz
Yep.

00:39:45.92
youcantcompthis
So I think my issue with Kate at the moment is that the next 12 months is going to be really difficult for the Pistons.

00:39:46.94
Adz
yeah

00:39:53.23
youcantcompthis
And then the next 12 months after that could be.

00:39:56.60
Adz
even more difficult.

00:39:57.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah, depending on how the draft goes, like they've had atrociously bad luck in the last few drafts.

00:39:58.34
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:04.03
youcantcompthis
So

00:40:05.42
Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's very true.

00:40:06.99
youcantcompthis
I just feel like some teams just have really bad draft lottery and they can be that type of team that even though they stink, you know, perpetually, they're not going to get, you know, too much draft luck, basically. So ah that's what I worry about with Kate.

00:40:18.65
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:20.07
youcantcompthis
I just wonder if you just sort of hold off on this guy and look, he might go up a little bit.

00:40:22.97
Adz
Oh,

00:40:24.49
youcantcompthis
He might come down a little bit. But whereas on the other hand, I think Maxi is going to be in the spotlight and probably where my take differs from you a little bit. I think Paul George coming into that team is an interesting one because traditionally what Daryl Morey likes to do with talent is just get as much talent as he can and just throw it into the team and then let itself work out whereas this is a very un-Daryl Morey signing for me because

00:40:46.92
Adz
Hmm.

00:40:51.08
youcantcompthis
I actually think that Paul George fits the 76ers really well because they needed a wing. They needed someone that could play D and they needed someone that could sort of give a little bit of ball handling and some scoring when needed.

00:41:03.95
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:03.87
youcantcompthis
So I actually see Paul George as like the best number three in the league at the moment. And I think Maxi is going to be the number two.

00:41:08.65
Adz
Wow.

00:41:09.90
youcantcompthis
I actually think Maxi is really skilled and talented. So I like his game a lot.

00:41:12.92
Adz
Okay. ah Yeah, yeah. All right. All right. I look

00:41:15.84
youcantcompthis
And so where I'm going with that is that I think Philadelphia's going to, you know, obviously they've got health issues.

00:41:16.58
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:22.57
youcantcompthis
If Embiid's healthy, which at the moment he's looking good, and Maxi's good again, and you you still expect some improvement in that space. And let's just say Paul George comes in and he's aging, so let's just call him average. I still think that team is going to be really, really good.

00:41:36.23
Adz
Okay.

00:41:39.04
youcantcompthis
And so if they're going to the finals, they're having long playoff runs, I do wonder if Maxi just sort of has that bit more exposure.

00:41:39.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:45.54
youcantcompthis
So he has more of an uptick. The only thing that does worry me though is he's actually coming down a bit. So whether people are like, look, I got this card for a hundred bucks, I'm really happy to sell it for high twos, low threes.

00:41:53.25
Adz
Off the hype train.

00:41:58.33
youcantcompthis
And, you know, sort of they just get sold out the market. Whereas on the other hand, people like, oh, Kate is the number one overall pick. You know, he's going to be good in the future. And you know, there's a bit more money sort of coming back into that Kade market because people see it as value.

00:42:11.97
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:13.35
youcantcompthis
That's the only thing. I think, you know, the rule to a sort of apply here is like that one that we just saw with Jason Tatum in the finals where he went down. You know, does that happen to Maxi in the playoffs again?

00:42:22.75
Adz
Yeah, true, true.

00:42:25.26
youcantcompthis
So.

00:42:26.19
Adz
I'd like to hope not, but yeah.

00:42:27.92
youcantcompthis
Look, I think at the most at the moment, both are good value, though.

00:42:31.63
Adz
Mm, mm.

00:42:32.02
youcantcompthis
That's my sort of final thought on this, but I just think in terms of buying timelines, they're slightly in a different space.

00:42:37.84
Adz
but yeah I agree with the the being in a different space. Yeah, I just think, I think Maxi might get lost in the noise.

00:42:41.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:42:43.42
Adz
That said, Embiid's not the most um popular of players to buy, so maybe Maxi is a good buyer.

00:42:49.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Alrighty, we have to give this guy some love. We just have to do it. So basically, Jalen Brunson, four years, $156 million dollars extension.

00:42:57.72
Adz
Who are we giving love?

00:43:03.70
youcantcompthis
And I think we were just talking about numbers that began with two. So the really easy way to explain this is that he's left a whole lot of money on the table. There's a number being thrown out by words that he's basically left on the table, $130 million. dollars And a couple of weeks back, we I was talking about the Knicks and I was saying, I don't understand how they're going to keep all this team together. Like is now Randall going to be on the trade block just to clear out some money?

00:43:25.11
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:43:29.86
youcantcompthis
So no, he's not going to be on the trade block. They're going to keep all this team together. So I think The two parts for me is number one is there's no loyalty in sports. We saw what happened to Isaiah Thomas in Boston when his sister died and he goes out into the court and he plays and he plays hurt and then he has a bad hip and then they don't resign him because it didn't suit them at the time and he should have been paid that year.

00:43:51.09
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:55.96
youcantcompthis
And so

00:43:58.70
Adz
Wow.

00:43:59.49
youcantcompthis
You know, it's really difficult for me to say this because he's just been paid $156 million, dollars so it's not like he's not getting paid, but he's also left behind $113 million. dollars So I do worry about that. Do you know what I mean in terms of, you know, Kim?

00:44:11.61
Adz
So see what he's rewarded with by the people of New York.

00:44:13.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right. So.

00:44:15.64
Adz
If things go pear shaped.

00:44:17.29
youcantcompthis
That's right. Exactly right. Yeah. On the flip side, though, now is this team set up to win a championship.

00:44:19.77
Adz
Hmm.

00:44:22.81
youcantcompthis
And I think that's where the sort of the online narrative is now going to and giving a lot of love to this guy.

00:44:25.38
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:44:29.04
youcantcompthis
And I think, you know, we hate on athletes all the time, saying them money hungry and they leave teams like Klay Thompson. You know, he didn't get the money and the opportunity he wanted from Golden State. So he goes to Dallas to get that few extra bucks.

00:44:39.25
Adz
I don't think it was the money. I think it was the end of the road for for a little bit of a, yeah.

00:44:42.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure. There was a lot of things that went into that decision, but money was definitely part of it.

00:44:47.01
Adz
Of course.

00:44:47.56
youcantcompthis
We've seen other athletes, you know, leave teams for money. So, you know, he's done the complete opposite.

00:44:50.37
Adz
Yep.

00:44:52.46
youcantcompthis
Now, I think reflecting this back into hobby value, I think this is going to be huge for him.

00:44:55.55
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:44:56.85
youcantcompthis
So, you know.

00:44:59.70
Adz
The People's Man.

00:45:01.49
youcantcompthis
That's right. I think I was very reluctant to get onto the Jalen Bronson train. I just didn't really know where it was going, but I think this is such a powerful thing that he's just done. I think it has to affect his hobby value. How much is it going to uptick it? I don't think anything now, but I think if that team gets to a championship, I think you can say it's going to double.

00:45:24.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:27.90
Adz
I think that's a ah reasonable, hang on, I'll just bring him up on card ladder.

00:45:30.04
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:45:32.80
youcantcompthis
Because I still think that Jalen Bronson is going to be their number one. If they win a championship, I think he has to be the driving force. I think they've got all the supplementary players around him to support him to, you know, to let that happen.

00:45:46.02
Adz
Well, he peaked, his rookie card sales peaked at, was it 400 and 440? in in May this year, this is the last six months I'm looking at.

00:45:56.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:45:57.33
Adz
um And then after obviously they they they did lose in the and the playoffs and didn't make it to the finals.

00:46:03.79
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:46:04.53
Adz
um They lost to the, oh, they lost to the Pacers, they didn't make it to the Eastern Conference fire Finals.

00:46:09.40
youcantcompthis
They're very injured.

00:46:12.40
Adz
They were, they were very hurt. ah So that's it, it's stabilized and it's now at around the $300 mark.

00:46:16.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:19.69
Adz
um That said, again, in the last six months, it's up 150% because it started off at $120.

00:46:20.02
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:46:24.12
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:26.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he spiked really hard. So yeah, I think he's his current value is going to keep going at that point.

00:46:28.22
Adz
Yep.

00:46:32.61
youcantcompthis
I don't think this is going to spike it.

00:46:33.10
Adz
Hmm.

00:46:34.77
youcantcompthis
But if you do believe in the Twitter, the online narrative around that's a championship move, and then yeah, there's no reason.

00:46:42.56
Adz
Hmm.

00:46:42.97
youcantcompthis
I don't think that can double.

00:46:45.04
Adz
Yeah. I mean, there were rumors that LeBron was going to take less money and then he didn't. So he took $3 million dollars less apparently than he could have got.

00:46:50.96
youcantcompthis
I mean, he took some less money back in the day to get the heatles together.

00:46:59.68
youcantcompthis
And he, he did take less money when they, they got the Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosch team together, but yeah, not a hundred million dollars less.

00:47:04.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:07.55
Adz
No, not quite.

00:47:07.48
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:47:09.67
youcantcompthis
All right. We should take our last breakout and then we'll come back and we'll talk some Rob Dillingham.

00:47:15.05
Adz
Rob Dillingham coming up.

00:47:16.34
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:47:29.90
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, we're back. We are back. It's our last segment. Our last part of the show. That's probably the better way to say it, isn't it? We're not going to finish on Rob Dillingham. This is not going to take 15 minutes to get through.

00:47:43.26
Adz
But definitely not.

00:47:44.84
youcantcompthis
No.

00:47:45.26
Adz
This is not going to take long at all.

00:47:47.10
youcantcompthis
All right. So I was pretty obsessed about this whole wolves moving up to spot eight in the draft. I'm not going to lie to you about this. And I've definitely done a little bit more of a deep dive into it. So

00:47:59.86
youcantcompthis
Who is Rob Dillingham? Basically, if you go to NBA DraftNet, they will break it all down for you in a really, really powerful way.

00:48:06.23
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:48:08.06
youcantcompthis
They've got some amazing stats and statistics and all that type of stuff. Of course, you can go into YouTube and you know watch some footage, which I have, but I think also, too, their scouting reports are just amazing. So I definitely went into their bag there.

00:48:22.13
Adz
encourage everybody. Yeah.

00:48:23.75
youcantcompthis
Overall, 92, they raided this young man. on the big board, they rated him at 19. So I think that's probably one thing that is different to as as it played out in real life. He is a Kentucky kid, so however that the wolves you know measured that is something. The NBA comparison is Kemba Walker and Brandon Jennings. And I think that's the big sort of take on this kid listening to analysts talk about him. He's he's a scorer. And so this where this threads back into the wolves is at at their press conference,

00:48:55.76
youcantcompthis
at the end of the season they highlighted the deficiencies in their team which is the offensive end defensively clearly they've got things nailed down with their twin towers up yeah so they just need someone to get some buckets and basically if you read through that it's all about him getting into the paint slipping between defenders using deceptive moods dribble drive lack of size but can still finish around the basket so i'm really excited about all of this so

00:49:04.04
Adz
Yep. Pretty well too, yeah.

00:49:25.89
youcantcompthis
Right, now where does this fit into the NBA? So his salary for the next four years, 6.2, 6.5, 6.8, and 8.7.

00:49:34.43
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:49:36.05
youcantcompthis
Now, I think in the first two years, you can sort of just write that money off, but I think where it gets really interesting in his third year when he's got two years of experience under his belt, and just say he's getting 15 points per game off the bench, and you're just paying him $6.8 million, dollars which is 4% of the cap. That's really, really powerful.

00:49:55.09
Adz
That's a bargain.

00:49:56.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and I think that's where the wolves are looking into this.

00:49:57.10
Adz
Yeah, okay. Is that their window? Is that what you think they're they're building towards?

00:50:02.67
youcantcompthis
I think they just wanted to add young talent at a cheap price.

00:50:06.76
Adz
to see some depth, yeah, some, some, yep, add to the depth, yeah.

00:50:08.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And in a weird way too that this team, I don't think the Wolves are a finished product. I don't think they're gonna win the championship with what they've got. So I think it's a really good idea to take another swing at somebody.

00:50:17.01
Adz
Yep. Sure.

00:50:19.05
youcantcompthis
So I get that. Now where it does get a little bit juicy though is they gave up a lot to get this guy. So they've traded with the Spurs and the Spurs are in asset collecting mode. So they got back a 2031. peak swap, which is unprotected.

00:50:33.97
Adz
Yep.

00:50:34.76
youcantcompthis
And the really interesting timeline about that is that by 2031, you would expect Wembley to be basically in his peak time.

00:50:42.59
Adz
Dominating the entire league, yep.

00:50:43.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so what the Spurs won at that time, because you'd also expect their roster to it be expensive. if They want cheap draft picks at that time so they can fill out the back of their bench for good value, just what the Wolves are doing now. And then in 2030, also a first round pick, which is only top one protected. So this could turn out to be really bad for the Wolves and, you know, amazing for the Spurs.

00:51:01.87
Adz
Delish.

00:51:06.33
youcantcompthis
So, yeah.

00:51:06.91
Adz
Theoretically, so the the Spurs are hoping for that like that Kobe pick to go with Shaq. By year seven, when you'll be in full dominant mode of, yeah.

00:51:10.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Exactly, yep. Something terrible to happen to the wolves and then the Spurs get their picks, you know, how amazing.

00:51:17.45
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:51:20.19
youcantcompthis
All right, now let's keep into the Spurs because this other thing has been in my mind this week. And actually, this has been from the Olympics warm ups. So watching good guards feed the ball to Wembley, as opposed to last year when it was Sochan, right? So now flip that around again. So instead of Sochan throwing lobs to Wembley, now you've got Chris Paul, right?

00:51:38.75
Adz
It's crisp holy.

00:51:42.59
youcantcompthis
So and um this is a little bit of a long winded thread here, but bear with me.

00:51:44.89
Adz
That's cool.

00:51:47.02
youcantcompthis
So this year, the draft isn't fantastic.

00:51:49.15
Adz
Nope.

00:51:51.03
youcantcompthis
So you can spend your money anywhere you want. And I think you should buy into breaks and have fun. That's totally fine.

00:52:01.20
youcantcompthis
But there is also something to be said about going back and looking at previous drafts and seeing where there's value to be had.

00:52:07.88
Adz
Where there's some, yeah, value, I like it.

00:52:09.91
youcantcompthis
I've been crapping on about Case and Wallace and all this type of stuff like that's fine but my mind is actually beginning to change about Wembley and I'm beginning to believe in the hype and I'm beginning to believe in the buy-in for this guy and that

00:52:24.97
Adz
You're drinking the Kool-Aid.

00:52:26.35
youcantcompthis
I am. Look, I'm 12 months down the track, so I don't feel like I jumped onto the hype train straight away. And I feel like we've talked about Wembley, but we haven't raved about Wembley in an unhealthy way, I don't think.

00:52:32.20
Adz
Oh, for sure, for sure.

00:52:36.77
youcantcompthis
But this guy is ridiculously skilled.

00:52:37.02
Adz
No, no, I think that is incredible. Yep.

00:52:40.10
youcantcompthis
He is insanely physically gifted.

00:52:41.12
Adz
Yep. Yes.

00:52:43.55
youcantcompthis
And then if you're moving into a ah piece where

00:52:49.29
youcantcompthis
I actually don't know how to say this properly, so just like again, sort of bear with me. So I think the face of the and NBA is going to be wimpy because I don't think you can have the face of the NBA with Zion.

00:52:56.24
Adz
Hmm.

00:52:59.66
youcantcompthis
So I think there's going to be more money coming out of Zion. I think John Moran, all that behavioral stuff that happened to him last year in my head sort of seals his fate. I don't think they're going to make the face of the NBA John Moran.

00:53:12.31
Adz
Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough.

00:53:15.54
youcantcompthis
And Wembley is so freakish, like you don't really need to market him, you just need to show a video of him just doing the stuff that he does and you just you're just blown away by the guy.

00:53:18.97
Adz
Yeah. Yep.

00:53:24.99
youcantcompthis
So I think in the same way that people are mesmerised by Steph Curry in how skilled he is, I think that also applies to Wembley.

00:53:25.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:35.59
Adz
It's possible. It's very possible.

00:53:36.35
youcantcompthis
I know, I know we love Steph Curry cause he's a small guy in a big man's league, but there's something about Wembley that you just sort of look at him and he seems friendly and he seems nice and he can somehow associate with him.

00:53:50.51
Adz
ah Yeah, yeah.

00:53:51.69
youcantcompthis
I don't know how this take is going, but anyway, look, he's going to be better next year though.

00:53:54.80
Adz
I think there's a lot of people will agree with it it to start with. It's gonna be good.

00:53:59.50
youcantcompthis
And he's going to be more effortlessly better when you've got someone like Chris Paul throwing in lubs. I don't think, how do you, measure that and how do you show that, you know, I, I'm kind of getting excited to, you know, see this next year, you know, yes, all the excitement.

00:54:10.44
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:54:14.72
Adz
Chris Paul has a history of making squads better.

00:54:18.35
youcantcompthis
And big guys better. Yeah. Yeah.

00:54:21.08
Adz
and and And grooming guards, and we've obviously got Stephon Castle that they drafted with the, was it the fourth pick?

00:54:27.32
youcantcompthis
yeah Sure. Sure.

00:54:30.22
Adz
He's going to get a lot of lot of mentoring from Chris Paul, like all of it.

00:54:32.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

00:54:34.94
Adz
Like the Spurs program, Harrison Barnes was not brought in as part of this trade for no reason.

00:54:43.45
youcantcompthis
Look.

00:54:43.61
Adz
another another vet that will be amazing playing Spurs basketball and teaching those around him. He's played, Barnes has been a champion with the Warriors. Do you know what I mean? Like he's been that that smart vet presence in Sacramento. I don't know, I feel like the Spurs are building to something.

00:55:06.85
youcantcompthis
I'm not super high on Harrison Barnes, to be honest with you. I'm not sad that he's left Sacramento.

00:55:13.09
youcantcompthis
But at the same time, I'm not even happy I've got DeRosa, to be honest.

00:55:13.44
Adz
You're just happy you've got DeRozan.

00:55:17.72
youcantcompthis
like I wanted Brendan Ingram to be honest.

00:55:20.26
Adz
Yep.

00:55:20.27
youcantcompthis
Anyway, that's let's not talk about my love of the Kings.

00:55:21.58
Adz
Anywho.

00:55:23.36
youcantcompthis
But look, I think Harrison Barnes is going to be fine on the Spurs. He's a professional. He's a quiet guy. I think he's going to fit there, sort of the thing that they like to do. I've got no problems with him going there. but

00:55:34.98
Adz
It's the system.

00:55:35.53
youcantcompthis
The main thing is like, Chris Paul setting up Wembley is going to be insane. and so Of course, I thought about card values. So I actually went on to 130 point and I took down the last 20 sales. And there's been a lot of sales for this guy.

00:55:49.60
Adz
I hope so.

00:55:50.79
youcantcompthis
I do wonder if some of these sales are the same sale that they picked up twice, but I will trust that Lane's got all these stats correct there. So the last 20 sales average on a silver PSA 10 WMB is 1,051.

00:56:05.21
Adz
Wow.

00:56:05.33
youcantcompthis
For some reason, I still can't find it on card letter.

00:56:07.64
Adz
So hang on. So that's, that's literally half of what it was a couple of months ago. I think silver PSA 10s were like, was it 2000? Was that the going rate? I have to go back a few eps. More than a few eps, but yeah. Okay. thousand An average of $1,000 for a silver PSA 10.

00:56:30.17
youcantcompthis
I think my issue is, is that it's a bit like the Jordan rookie card with it. You don't really know how many of these are out there. That doesn't really appeal to me. So I think I would look at different cards. I think the silver in itself is a little bit problematic, but at the same time, yeah. In the last week, I've really flipped around on my Wembley. I've become a believer. I think this is going to be, I think he's going to be the king of the hobby pretty soon.

00:57:01.85
Adz
Wow, king of the hobby.

00:57:05.98
youcantcompthis
Well, think, so think about it. Who's been the, like, say the last five big dogs that we've had? Like Lebron, Steph,

00:57:17.46
youcantcompthis
Luca, Zion, Jar.

00:57:17.72
Adz
Mm, mm.

00:57:19.60
youcantcompthis
You could put Lamello in there, but like, yeah, flash in the pan, but he's gone now, right?

00:57:22.40
Adz
That mellow was a flash in the pan. No, you're right, you're right, you're right.

00:57:25.61
youcantcompthis
Like we can, like that's done. Like, I think my Zion and Jar take is pretty reasonable. I think they're done like,

00:57:33.62
Adz
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I do think Zion is a top 20 player in the league next season though.

00:57:38.57
youcantcompthis
I don't know, man.

00:57:40.09
Adz
No, I think his hobby value is shot because he's such a... It's so... You can't depend on his ability. His ability to get injured is probably his...

00:57:50.40
youcantcompthis
He's injury prone. I think you just have to accept that. Like, that's it.

00:57:53.05
Adz
Yeah, yeah. As soon as you get too high on him, he's gonna disappoint you.

00:57:54.04
youcantcompthis
You know what I mean?

00:57:56.78
Adz
You get it.

00:57:57.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:57:57.84
Adz
But I still think he's a top... He's a top 20 player, but he can't be the face of the league.

00:58:03.05
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:58:03.88
Adz
can't be, he was dominant.

00:58:03.82
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:58:05.37
Adz
He almost willed the pelicans into the playoffs and then hurt himself with three minutes to go.

00:58:10.75
youcantcompthis
I was impressed with him and I loved what he did. I'm not throwing shade at him. I'm just saying that.

00:58:15.60
Adz
Hobby wise, you can't trust the man to stay healthy.

00:58:17.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:58:19.79
Adz
That's fine.

00:58:19.71
youcantcompthis
And particularly when you've got this going on over here, which is going to look better next year.

00:58:24.90
Adz
Yep, yep. And Jar coming back from injury. After all his shenanigans, he's not gonna be able to get to it. I understand that too.

00:58:30.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:58:31.51
Adz
um Yeah, we're about to see a new wave and I think it will be led by Victor Mignon.

00:58:37.09
youcantcompthis
like Lebron's gonna be gone pretty soon. Steph is not that far away from, you know, retiring. Let's just say three or four more years of Steph, right? Why can't he be king of the castle in three years?

00:58:54.32
Adz
I don't see why he couldn't be.

00:58:56.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:58:57.27
Adz
He could get injured.

00:58:59.70
youcantcompthis
Of course.

00:59:00.13
Adz
People that are his height, there is a a history of ah being injury prone as well. but's that's Let's not wish that on him, but yeah.

00:59:08.82
youcantcompthis
No, no. And I don't disagree with that, but I would also say some people like Kevin Garnett have these bodies that aren't particularly big, but they're freakishly strong and then got very, you know, resilient bodies.

00:59:16.66
Adz
You can just, yeah yeah.

00:59:23.24
youcantcompthis
I, I, I look at him and I think more that than fragile Keith Kloss or something like this.

00:59:24.48
Adz
I'd like to hope this is, yeah.

00:59:28.74
Adz
Okay.

00:59:32.04
youcantcompthis
So yeah, that's a Clippers reference for you.

00:59:36.34
Adz
That's why I chuckled.

00:59:39.48
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, Donovan Mitchell three years 150.

00:59:42.87
Adz
Expected.

00:59:43.90
youcantcompthis
Does this move the hobby needle? Absolutely not at all. Does it make people love him or hate him more?

00:59:47.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:49.48
youcantcompthis
No, I don't think nothing. Are the Cleveland Cavaliers going to go further now that he's been re resigned? Probably not. I think they need to sort out their front court.

00:59:58.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:59.24
youcantcompthis
I think Evan Mobley is more dependent on the team's success than Donovan Mitchell is. I think Mitchell is a pretty known quantity by now. I think the wildcard for that team is Mobley, to be honest.

01:00:07.23
Adz
Have to be in own quantity. Yeah, yeah.

01:00:10.20
youcantcompthis
So that's a quick hitting one.

01:00:10.84
Adz
Yep.

01:00:13.22
youcantcompthis
Jijonta Murray was traded to the Pelicans.

01:00:15.60
Adz
To the Pells.

01:00:17.20
youcantcompthis
ah Hawks received Larry Nance Jr. Dyson Daniels a 25 first round pick and a 27 first round pick. So that is a lot um for the Pelicans to give up.

01:00:28.28
Adz
It is. But I think the pelicans are ready to make a run.

01:00:35.08
Adz
I have a feeling.

01:00:35.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:38.69
youcantcompthis
I think the

01:00:38.92
Adz
Speaking of those lobs, can you see Murray lobbing it to Zion? I can.

01:00:42.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I think the Palakans need a defender and they need someone who is probably a little bit less ball dominant to be out on the flocks.

01:00:47.67
Adz
a

01:00:50.66
youcantcompthis
I think in my head, that's where that team is a little bit flawed, is that you've sort of got Ingram who needs the ball, CJ McCollum, who could dribble the ball for 23 and a half seconds per possession.

01:00:55.23
Adz
True.

01:01:01.07
youcantcompthis
And of course Zion, who probably should be their point forward. so I think getting in a defender like Dejaunte Murray is a really good thing.

01:01:06.13
Adz
True.

01:01:09.65
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:10.15
youcantcompthis
I think the hobby winner though out of all of this is Dyson Daniels. I think that's the one we need to really watch here because yeah I think so because well the funny thing about the Hawks is that their picks aren't in their control so they actually can't bottom out.

01:01:16.14
Adz
You reckon? It's the Atlanta Hawks.

01:01:27.79
Adz
So they just have to try.

01:01:27.69
youcantcompthis
I think Dyson i think dy and Daniels is actually a very multi-skilled basketball player. I think his jump shot needs to be improved, but at the same time, in the right system,

01:01:40.35
Adz
I think I'm just down on him because of the boomer selection, that's all.

01:01:40.30
youcantcompthis
setting up the right... I think the Boomers and NBA is almost two separate kettles of fish.

01:01:50.14
Adz
Yeah, but that's the only thing, I'm down on Dyson at the moment because I didn't think he deserved to be in the Australian squad.

01:02:00.20
youcantcompthis
yeah

01:02:01.01
Adz
I don't know. I also i also don't rate Atlanta, so I think it's going to be... for for the hot for I don't think Atlanta is a big enough market to to move the needle on him, but it could be a move if they actually if they actually pull out some some some good basketball.

01:02:10.23
youcantcompthis
okay

01:02:15.81
youcantcompthis
I didn't go into this in a heap of detail, but looking at their team rotation, he's definitely going to be in their rotation. And yeah, and also too, even if the rotation thing that I looked at was wrong,

01:02:22.33
Adz
Which is positive, yeah.

01:02:29.85
youcantcompthis
I probably think he's going to be played in different spots. And I also think he could be played in front of other people in that roster. So I look, I think this is really good for Dyson Daniels because that that's the problem with that pelicans roster too.

01:02:37.47
Adz
Yeah, definitely.

01:02:39.87
youcantcompthis
They're actually really stacked.

01:02:41.11
Adz
Yeah, yeah, like getting opportunities is not easy.

01:02:43.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:45.17
Adz
Yeah.

01:02:45.70
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, Isaiah Joe. So this is really for our friend of the podcast, Lachlan Blunt. Isaiah Joe was someone that was brought to our attention by Lachlan. He is going back to the Thunder on a four year, $48 million dollars deal.

01:02:57.97
Adz
Oh yeah, 12 million. Yeah, that's nice. Nice.

01:03:04.38
youcantcompthis
So he's one of these funny people that didn't get a Prism rookie card. I think he is collectible. But I'd also say at the same time too, it's a bit like we just spoke about with the Pelicans, that team is so stupidly stacked.

01:03:17.19
Adz
Mmm.

01:03:18.79
youcantcompthis
I don't actually understand how they're gonna fit all those picks into that team.

01:03:22.85
Adz
They're probably not.

01:03:23.88
youcantcompthis
Like I wonder, do they trade like 10 first round picks for...

01:03:29.01
Adz
Whimby.

01:03:30.00
youcantcompthis
I don't know. Like, what what do you even trade for them?

01:03:33.52
Adz
Yeah, I know. I know. What are you? but yeah Yeah, exactly.

01:03:36.06
youcantcompthis
Like LeBron, I don't know, Anthony Davis.

01:03:40.66
Adz
We'll take picks for Lebron.

01:03:43.92
youcantcompthis
How many first round picks do you need to get Lebron? Eight? Nine? They've got 30, you know?

01:03:50.72
Adz
Yeah, that's crazy, isn't it?

01:03:53.01
youcantcompthis
What are the two of them?

01:03:56.42
Adz
They'll position themselves well.

01:03:57.95
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, we'll finish today's show on this one. I think you'll enjoy this.

01:04:04.17
youcantcompthis
Team USA Basketball made an announcement, choir Leonard has been ramping up for the Olympics over the past several weeks and had a few strong practices in Las Vegas. He felt ready to compete. However, he respects that USA Basketball and the Clippers determined it's in his best interest to spend the remainder of the summer preparing for the upcoming season rather than participating in the Olympic Games in Paris. So that is from Team USA Basketball. So Tyler was on the coaching staff of Team USA, so clearly the finger was on the pulse very, very closely there.

01:04:37.48
Adz
Mm-hmm.

01:04:41.38
youcantcompthis
Grant Hill, who is the director of Team USA at the moment, who essentially makes the final call on the players who are going in and out of the team, apparently had his finger on the pulse on this one too, and immediately named your boy as a replacement into the team.

01:04:57.62
Adz
Derek, what?

01:04:58.08
youcantcompthis
So how are you feeling? How are you feeling about Mr. White being named to Team USA?

01:05:05.28
Adz
The DRK stocks are on the rise. That's so that's what I've got to say. um God, to go back to that, the bro stocks are going down because Jaylen Brown was not considered. What the hell?

01:05:16.93
youcantcompthis
Right. OK, so let's talk about this. Why do you think that they chose Derek White over Jalen Brown?

01:05:23.73
Adz
i wanted they They wanted to annoy Jaylen Brown? I don't know.

01:05:28.14
youcantcompthis
Maybe.

01:05:28.60
Adz
i Because of the type of player they wanted, they wanted another guard back up. Like they wanted to change the dynamic, the mix-up of the team. That said, Kawhi plays the three. I don't understand why Jaylen Brown wasn't considered.

01:05:45.55
youcantcompthis
So I think to play the three, they've got Durant complete three or four.

01:05:52.72
Adz
LeBron.

01:05:53.35
youcantcompthis
They got LeBron, they got Jason Tatum.

01:05:57.09
youcantcompthis
I think Edwards can play a little bit of three if needed. Booker could play a little bit of three if needed.

01:06:04.53
youcantcompthis
And do they particularly need guard play?

01:06:09.81
Adz
Maybe not.

01:06:10.21
youcantcompthis
I don't know. They've got Halliburton, they've got Drew Holiday, they've got Steph Curry. I don't know.

01:06:15.84
Adz
Maybe Derek Watts is better at peeling oranges for the for the rest of the players.

01:06:15.77
youcantcompthis
look

01:06:19.74
youcantcompthis
Can I be honest with you, I think that's what they need. They need a really good 12th man and that's where they wanted to go. I'm not sure.

01:06:26.61
Adz
Better at waving towels? I don't know.

01:06:28.26
youcantcompthis
Do we go into the conspiracy theory stuff with Jalen Brown and why he wasn't on the team? There was some chatter with Nike basketball and all that type of, yeah, with the amount of money apparently that Nike puts into the team.

01:06:37.38
Adz
Oh really?

01:06:41.59
youcantcompthis
And there's some disagreement with Jalen Brown and all the rest of it. So the other conspiracy theory that I think was created in my head and by nobody else is that it's like Steve Kerr playing mind games with him as like a rival NBA coach to try and create

01:07:01.01
Adz
ah brown Brown Tatum friction.

01:07:03.84
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Friction within the Celtics, right?

01:07:04.78
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:05.76
youcantcompthis
Because he's the finals MVP.

01:07:06.76
Adz
Oh, um I am all on board with this.

01:07:07.40
youcantcompthis
He's the playoffs MVP.

01:07:09.16
Adz
I am all on board with this.

01:07:09.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

01:07:12.88
Adz
Look, Jalen Brown would just like to focus on the upcoming and m NBA season so that the Boston Celtics can retain their title.

01:07:12.79
youcantcompthis
I don't know.

01:07:21.62
Adz
That's gonna be...

01:07:23.28
youcantcompthis
Look, I gotta be honest with you, to me it's a very unusual choice that he's not on the team.

01:07:27.67
Adz
Yeah, I see Derek White as a reasonable choice. Don't get me wrong.

01:07:31.42
youcantcompthis
But I think Jalen Brown is a better choice because I think his game actually fits the international game really well. He's very flexible.

01:07:38.35
Adz
Yep.

01:07:38.95
youcantcompthis
He could play realistically at least three positions in the world game.

01:07:40.75
Adz
Agreed.

01:07:43.31
Adz
Yep.

01:07:43.39
youcantcompthis
So.

01:07:44.26
Adz
But looking at the way and how much it's stacked, you're probably not going to get many minutes from anyway, because look at the Dream Team 3.0.

01:07:47.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah. It could just be that at the bottom. Yeah. I think if they get another injury though, like if Durant pulls out, cause apparently he's got a calf problem. If Edwards pulls out for some unusual reason or Booker, he has to get chosen next. Like I think, and if he's not, there's something else going on in the background that, yeah.

01:08:05.95
Adz
there's like and Yeah, something something's not right.

01:08:08.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:08:08.51
Adz
If that happens, yeah.

01:08:10.28
youcantcompthis
All right.

01:08:10.69
Adz
Agreed, agreed.

01:08:11.86
youcantcompthis
Final thoughts. addd What have you got?

01:08:13.91
Adz
What have I got?

01:08:16.83
Adz
It's been a big week. There's a lot of basketball stuff happening.

01:08:21.22
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:08:21.48
Adz
There's a lot of hobby stuff happening still.

01:08:21.66
youcantcompthis
It's always, we still didn't get through the sheet this week, mate, so, yep.

01:08:24.64
Adz
And and this is this is the off season.

01:08:28.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:08:30.23
Adz
So, never a dull moment in the NBA.

01:08:32.21
youcantcompthis
No, definitely not.

01:08:34.89
Adz
Looking forward to the Olympics though.

01:08:37.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Or as I called them at the start of the show, the world championships.

01:08:40.79
Adz
Pretty much, same potato-potato.

01:08:42.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:08:47.80
youcantcompthis
Alrighty guys, thanks so much and Thanks for listening.

01:08:52.14
Adz
Yeah, thanks everyone, um including our friends at Central Coast Radio.

01:08:55.88
youcantcompthis
ah good col yeah yeah advance

01:08:57.39
Adz
and our and our loyal, ah fan well, favorites in the in the Facebook group that give us so much quality yeah feedback and content. Yeah, the banter. Yeah, thanks everybody. Really appreciate it. See you next week.