Episode 157: Topps Chrome, How Many Cards Graded? Resealed Exquisite, Box Scanning, GG Jackson, Top 10 Cards Week,

Episode 157: Russell and Adam are back to chat the hobby, we break down
- How many cards have been graded?
-  Sourced from https://www.gemrate.com/player
-First look at Topps chrome inserts           
- Shyne Opening resealed box   
- Where to get your boxes scanned
- The GOAT
- Who said this?
- Russell's olympic moment
- Summer league standouts: Memphis grizzlies
- Who is GG Jackson
- Top 10 cards of the week:
- Steph stats:
- listener question Matthew Hull
- Olympics prospects
- Devin Booker at the Olympics

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Transcript

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Adz
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00:00:07.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

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Adz
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youcantcompthis
That's right. Win the algorithm wall.

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Adz
That's it.

00:00:17.11
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:00:18.88
Adz
We are ready.

00:00:32.48
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 157 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We are your hosts, Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson. Welcome back, Russ.

00:00:46.58
youcantcompthis
Hi mate, not that happy to be back to be honest, but thank you very much for giving me the, the week off. It was quite delicious to be honest.

00:00:52.60
Adz
yes

00:00:53.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:00:54.70
Adz
glady Glad you got your time off. I had some ah some lovely banter with a friend of the show, Joe Fu.

00:01:03.22
youcantcompthis
yeah He did a good job. You two held it down.

00:01:04.59
Adz
It was.

00:01:05.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:01:06.36
Adz
Felt very 2000, like Lakers 2000, Shaq Kobe dominance.

00:01:06.58
youcantcompthis
Made the team proud.

00:01:12.38
youcantcompthis
You definitely in your era and I feel like you time stamped your moment in hobby time. I think that's the best way to say it. Yeah.

00:01:19.49
Adz
that's it That's, yeah, I think that's ah that's reasonable.

00:01:22.32
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:01:22.45
Adz
I'm on the hunt for one of those thunder and lightnings now, because I don't think I've got one. I might have one, but yeah, yeah.

00:01:26.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know,

00:01:30.01
Adz
So you you had to listen, did you?

00:01:31.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I would listen to, I would say 90% of it.

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Adz
Oh.

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youcantcompthis
It's not that I didn't want to listen to the end bit. I think I just got distracted and just didn't get around to doing it. But yeah, no, I listened. I was actually at the gym listening to it. So it was, it was good.

00:01:42.77
Adz
hu Nice, nice.

00:01:45.80
youcantcompthis
I think ah one like major difference I would say though, is that, and you even said it yourself through, you're like, ah we'll talk about this, but then didn't have the stats for it.

00:01:56.52
Adz
Yeah, ah look, i'm i i missed you so I missed you so much last week.

00:01:57.71
youcantcompthis
And so I was writing notes down.

00:02:02.37
youcantcompthis
So I was writing stats down.

00:02:02.58
Adz
I'm like, oh, this...

00:02:04.01
youcantcompthis
So I feel like let's just start right there. So let's just get down to the stats.

00:02:06.74
Adz
good Number of cards.

00:02:08.07
youcantcompthis
So the first thing you said, and I'm, I feel like I need to defend myself on, on this was that, um, Russell thinks that Victor women are just going to take over Jordan. And specifically what I said was, I think he's going to have more cards graded than Jordan.

00:02:23.72
Adz
Yes, true.

00:02:24.64
youcantcompthis
That is what I said. Okay. So let's like, I feel like I had to defend myself on that.

00:02:26.02
Adz
True.

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Adz
We still think you're wrong on that, by the way, but.

00:02:30.36
youcantcompthis
Um, That's fine. Look, I'm, you know, those people that were originally early adopters of crypto and then now they're driving land in Lamborghinis and stuff.

00:02:34.18
Adz
ah

00:02:41.50
youcantcompthis
This is how I feel about this take on, on Wembley. I'm like, this is a home run.

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Adz
Rust coin.

00:02:47.56
youcantcompthis
I can't, I can't believe that I'm in the minority on this one.

00:02:48.39
Adz
It's a rust coin. Whimpy coin, is that what it's gonna be called? it's That's the new car, it's, yeah.

00:02:52.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So.

00:02:54.86
Adz
You know, yeah well, it could be. You might not be in the minority. We might be in the minority. I just might be very loud about it.

00:03:00.03
youcantcompthis
This month alone, 48,600 Wembley cards were graded in um in a month.

00:03:05.23
Adz
They'll get bored eventually. What's the gap now? Should we should we start like tracking the gap but on Jordans?

00:03:12.74
youcantcompthis
It's just insane. Like the popularity of this man hobby wise is just through the roof. I just.

00:03:20.16
Adz
Well, you're right. I've been cynical about this.

00:03:23.36
youcantcompthis
No.

00:03:23.64
Adz
I'll admit I've been cynical about this. However, i think I think the numbers will settle, I think it's probably the best word, ah when Wembley's cards aren't his rookie cards.

00:03:25.17
youcantcompthis
No, I don't think you've been cynical. I just think you've just maybe just been a bit more moderate than I've been. That's all. Yeah.

00:03:38.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but why do you think that, though? That's the that's the key point, right?

00:03:42.43
Adz
The rookie card is the is is the is the one that's most heavily graded. i was but Well, that's what I would think is most heavily graded.

00:03:49.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's that is true, but I think also what I've been thinking about this probably more than I'd care to admit. He's going to have two rookie years when you think about it, right? Because what's going to happen is Panini is going to flog the absolute shit out of him and they're going to print you know, 20 different types of cards.

00:04:07.86
youcantcompthis
And then within that, there's going to be hobby and retail and all the rest of it.

00:04:10.87
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:11.36
youcantcompthis
And then next year, or even, you know, now, like very imminently, and we're going to talk about this in a second, the tops previews has came out, then there's going to be all those tops cards are going to come out too with his autograph and the inserts and stuff.

00:04:20.86
Adz
Uh, yep.

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youcantcompthis
Right. So actually in kind of ah a weird way, he's going to be double dipped, not in two products, in two companies, lots of products.

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Adz
Mmm.

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Adz
Yeah, significantly.

00:04:34.13
youcantcompthis
Right.

00:04:34.73
Adz
You're right. Yeah.

00:04:35.78
youcantcompthis
And so then after that, there's going to be all the other cards that come through.

00:04:38.28
Adz
Mmm.

00:04:40.87
youcantcompthis
And I still think they're going to be more collected than the next, maybe even two draft years of cards.

00:04:46.68
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:46.95
youcantcompthis
And then so and this is very pop culture. And and so that's not really fair to throw this in your face, but the gold medal game, which I'm not all the way through watching yet, but there's clearly the wimpy effect happening here.

00:05:00.88
Adz
Oh, there is.

00:05:02.63
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

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Adz
Yeah.

00:05:03.18
youcantcompthis
And you can even hear in the crowd, like the buzz around, of course, like all the big dogs, but there was buzz around wimpy too.

00:05:03.48
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:08.94
Adz
Oh, for sure.

00:05:09.38
youcantcompthis
Like this guy's is popular, you know? And so I think that does translate into our space, which is, you know, the hobby space.

00:05:11.57
Adz
Yeah.

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youcantcompthis
So, um,

00:05:19.04
Adz
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. I just think that the gap between him and Jordan is so great. People aren't gonna stop grading Jordan. I just think the gap's, I don't think, I don't doubt that he'll be like top five. Like if he continues the way he's going, he's gonna be an all time athlete.

00:05:34.06
youcantcompthis
But the things once you get to five, you're pretty much third or second. There's not that much gap between second and ten.

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Adz
If he gets over a million cards graded, he's in second, right?

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youcantcompthis
If you. Yeah.

00:05:44.92
Adz
Yeah, yeah, understand that.

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youcantcompthis
It's like it's a funny list. It's kind of like it's more of a tiered list.

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Adz
I just don't see, I just don't see, I don't see Jordan being overtook.

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youcantcompthis
Yeah.

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Adz
That's, but that that that'll probably be where I'm, my line will be drawn.

00:05:57.88
youcantcompthis
The other reason why I feel okay about this take two is that I've never had this thought about Jar or Luca. I've never had this thought about Zion.

00:06:04.02
Adz
Yeah, okay.

00:06:05.47
youcantcompthis
I've never, you know, really gotten and even Wembley himself. I feel like we've been quite moderate on the show about his sort of hobby space. So yeah, I think that's my other thing.

00:06:14.47
Adz
Yeah, I would,

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youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right. So then the next thing you're talking about is how many individual cards are for the players. So now,

00:06:23.81
Adz
Oh yes, I did too.

00:06:25.09
youcantcompthis
Now, for people at home, this is actually like a really good. Frequently asked question, and it's a really good sort of education piece. And Ryan, if you are listening from Gemrate, you really need to up your education game.

00:06:37.14
youcantcompthis
So if you go into Gemrate, even Cardletter for that matter, there's actually a lot more information that is available to you that, you know, you may or may not know.

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Adz
Mmm.

00:06:45.20
youcantcompthis
So you go to Gemrate, then you click on player. And then from there, when you search for a player, it will bring up a lot of information really quickly.

00:06:55.33
youcantcompthis
And one of the things that you can get from GEM rate is the number of cards that is graded.

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Adz
ye Yep.

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youcantcompthis
So Wembley's got 1472. Shaq has 5970. So that's what you and Joe were talking about. How many is Wembley's got?

00:07:10.82
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

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youcantcompthis
How many is Shaq? Then I noticed you've added in a few notes into the sheet.

00:07:12.20
Adz
Yep.

00:07:14.74
youcantcompthis
So I think you should take the honors on this one.

00:07:17.05
Adz
Yeah, i can once you once you put this into the run shade, I went, oh my God, I should have probably looked at the Gemrate website before shouting out to Ryan, yeah.

00:07:23.88
youcantcompthis
Because it's so easy to pull up too. No, you could have done that live, right?

00:07:27.74
Adz
Yeah, i could yeah.

00:07:27.93
youcantcompthis
it's And for people at home, I'm not making the point of you could have done that more, how quickly for the people at home can do this. that's It's really easy to do it.

00:07:34.77
Adz
Well, that's that's true.

00:07:35.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:07:36.05
Adz
well What I'll do is is for those playing at home or on YouTube or watching live or on the the video feed, I'll go through these couple of stats and then we'll we'll do a live ah live reveal, I guess.

00:07:36.57
youcantcompthis
yeah

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youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:07:49.61
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so show people how to do it. I think this week on Insta will do it too. We'll do a short video about how to do this because that's a really good one.

00:07:52.99
Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
So I went in and I looked up a couple of key players because I think the first time we talked through it, I was curious about Shaq and Zion because they were so close on the list, the overall list.

00:08:07.67
youcantcompthis
A number of things. They're very hobby wise.

00:08:09.00
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:10.08
youcantcompthis
There is a lot to compare there.

00:08:11.74
Adz
I thought Shaq's unique cards would severe like be way way more than than Zion. little Now, I don't know what the unique ah number of cards factors in. it could Given the amount of different parallels, this data could be a little bit skewed.

00:08:29.65
Adz
but

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youcantcompthis
It could be skewed or it could be 100% accurate and I'm leaning towards more 100%.

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Adz
so

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youcantcompthis
I think people, yeah, people grade.

00:08:33.89
Adz
And I ah go with, yeah, I go with PSA on it, because it's the PSA, it's the PSA number.

00:08:40.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:08:40.51
Adz
Now, sure, there might be two or three that PSA were never graded and they might be Beckett graded, but I think we're sort of, PSA data is the best one to take from it. Shaq with 5,970, Zion, same numbers, but we've transposed them a little bit, 5,079.

00:08:57.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

00:08:58.93
Adz
I'm like, it's not that much different. It's literally about what 900 cards different in the unique numbers. That's like data wise that that surprises me.

00:09:09.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:09:10.89
Adz
So I'm glad I looked up Zion. Michael Jordan, the goat himself ah has a 10,814 unique basketball cards graded.

00:09:25.83
Adz
However, because we because obviously he's done movie, he did the Space Jam movie and he did any baseball, 12,259 cards.

00:09:34.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's insane, isn't it?

00:09:37.11
Adz
So I don't know how the categories are ah done, but that's yeah that's unique ah number of cards that have been graded.

00:09:42.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he's just crosses so many genres of popularity. I think that's the best way to explain that. ye Yeah, so my guess off air was Kobe.

00:09:50.33
Adz
So, and I've got on the run sheet, I've got somebody else

00:09:56.99
Adz
They have 11,392 unique cards graded. And your guess is Kobe?

00:10:03.89
youcantcompthis
Give me two more guesses. Give me two more guesses.

00:10:05.41
Adz
Yep.

00:10:06.33
youcantcompthis
My next guess is magic.

00:10:08.30
Adz
Not Magic.

00:10:11.42
Adz
They're not in the top 10.

00:10:13.22
youcantcompthis
Maybe Steph Curry.

00:10:16.05
Adz
Well done.

00:10:16.94
youcantcompthis
That's my last guess.

00:10:18.30
Adz
Good guess. um Now I will reveal to the audience that probably can't really see it all that well because it's,

00:10:20.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:10:24.79
Adz
um it's It's the Gem Rate stuff. We've got, yeah, 11,392 unique cards for Stephen Curry.

00:10:35.38
youcantcompthis
Only Steph, is it?

00:10:35.69
Adz
And yeah, it is Steph.

00:10:37.24
youcantcompthis
Oh, cool.

00:10:38.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:10:38.36
youcantcompthis
I can't see what you can see.

00:10:39.35
Adz
Oh yeah, true, true.

00:10:39.48
youcantcompthis
That's all. So yeah.

00:10:40.30
Adz
Yeah, so it is. It was Steph Curry.

00:10:41.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:10:42.36
Adz
I, for obvious reasons, thought I'd start looking him up a bit today. That was, um yeah, I was surprised.

00:10:51.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah, cool.

00:10:51.94
Adz
He's got more unique basketball cards graded than Jordan. and 10% of the amount graded more roughly was at 200 and something thousand. It's not and's not crazy.

00:11:03.29
Adz
like yeah yeah Very interesting data.

00:11:03.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:08.34
Adz
So thanks, thanks Ryan.

00:11:08.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, great.

00:11:09.62
Adz
like that's yeah

00:11:09.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah, of course, as always, thank you, Ryan, for your huge contributions to the hobby.

00:11:11.92
Adz
um yeah The Gemrate website has got a a lot of gems on it, not to to to sort of double dip on the word gem, but

00:11:14.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:22.50
Adz
you've got the top menu, which has got top cards of all time, player data, which is where this comes from.

00:11:28.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:28.26
Adz
And yeah, as as I said, we'll do a little little video throughout the week to to go through that. And the website can be a bit slow at times, because there's a lot of data to go through.

00:11:39.66
Adz
But basically, all you do is you go into the player data and type a player's name, and it'll give you all of all of the players. it's ah It's quite handy, since you said it.

00:11:48.64
youcantcompthis
And easy.

00:11:49.18
Adz
Kobe Bryant.

00:11:52.43
Adz
Now I have to know.

00:11:54.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah, why not?

00:11:54.96
Adz
Since, we'll we'll find out live. not For those that are playing at home, you'll probably see Ken Griffey Jr. That's like they always put a sample. So Kobe Bryant, ah number of unique cards, 10,343.

00:12:13.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'm not surprised. I think he was in terms of popularity.

00:12:14.84
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:17.29
youcantcompthis
He was way, way up there.

00:12:18.59
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:19.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:12:19.47
Adz
Yeah. So, and you can deep dive and you can do filters into specific years. You can filter by any category, any a year, any set in particular. So if we're going to Kobe's in 1996, it filters the data to only the 1996 cards.

00:12:37.30
Adz
And then if you want to do that again, I mean, you can, you can look for your, your total graded. Is that total graded? Yeah.

00:12:49.14
Adz
And you can sort that by the total number, how many gems there are. You can sort it by the gem rate. Pretty cool.

00:12:56.05
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:12:56.30
Adz
A lot of data to play with. As I said last week, there's lots of data there and I don't know what I'm gonna do with it and what it means, but there's lots of it there.

00:12:57.68
youcantcompthis
He's done a great job.

00:13:02.80
Adz
It's amazing. And Ryan does ah an amazing job.

00:13:05.73
youcantcompthis
Yep. All right, another piece of useless data for you. 30,049 is our total number of downloads on the podcast ad. So we just clicked over 30K.

00:13:16.45
youcantcompthis
So hooray for us.

00:13:18.09
Adz
Excellent.

00:13:18.96
youcantcompthis
Thank you for all our listeners. Thank you for all the support from our Central Coast Radio family. I think that's the best way to say it. And Central Coast Radio have got their own announcement this week.

00:13:29.72
youcantcompthis
So they've been collecting content creators quite a lot and they've got a metal show coming. So to say that I am

00:13:34.86
Adz
Ooh.

00:13:37.61
youcantcompthis
Excited is very much an understatement. So looking forward to that.

00:13:41.15
Adz
Very, very nice. Our own little like mini Olympics.

00:13:43.27
youcantcompthis
All right. All right. The first item in the run sheet of this week is tops coming out with with Chrome.

00:13:54.40
youcantcompthis
So I think this has been in the works for a long time. And I think there's a lot of people in the hobby who let's call them from the old school who are very, very excited about this coming out.

00:14:08.28
youcantcompthis
I'm probably a little bit middling at the moment because unlicensed stuff is not as exciting for me as licensed stuff. I think that's the best way to say it.

00:14:17.67
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:18.44
youcantcompthis
You know, I think in saying all of that, though, it's going to be insanely popular. And I think people are going to be wanting this in a in a very intense way. So LeBron autos ah are going to be there.

00:14:30.49
youcantcompthis
Whenby autos are going to be there. and they've done a really good job of picking up people in that sort of mid tier, you know, some old school veterans, you know, just one off the top of my head, you know, Penny Hardaway is going to be in there.

00:14:37.51
Adz
man

00:14:42.76
youcantcompthis
And that's not like the biggest get in the world, but at the same time, if you get magic in a PYT, that will be very tidy to pick up a penny order. So I see where the value comes in that sort of space.

00:14:56.04
youcantcompthis
This is from Dan the Cardman. If you do not follow this gentleman on YouTube and Instagram, you need to do so in a big way. He's also an Aussie. He's probably a bit smarter than you and I add, but at the same time, um he's very, very good at what he does.

00:15:09.21
Adz
Probably.

00:15:12.13
youcantcompthis
So this is from Dan the Cardman. He picked up that the writing on the

00:15:19.14
youcantcompthis
rookie stars is the same font from the TV show Pawn Stars, P-A-W-N for those spelling at home.

00:15:20.67
Adz
Wow.

00:15:28.82
youcantcompthis
Um, so he's sort of making the joke about top spaceless using, you know, templated text on their, on their cards, which is kind of in a way kind of cool, isn't it?

00:15:33.97
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:39.49
youcantcompthis
Um, but

00:15:39.78
Adz
It's interesting where they borrowed it from though.

00:15:42.27
youcantcompthis
Well, I think they probably just borrowed it out of Microsoft Word. Like, let's keep it real. I don't think they might've, you know, just as porn stars took it out of Microsoft Word.

00:15:49.28
Adz
Let's not, I was gonna say it's probably it's probably not a ah licensed font.

00:15:50.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:56.47
Adz
It's not like Star Wars, right?

00:15:56.47
youcantcompthis
An open source font.

00:15:57.79
Adz
Where, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:59.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:16:00.92
Adz
So like, you know, like the bot, like very recognizable as a Star Wars is probably good. example of the the style of text or um Super Mario Brothers or something like that, where the actual font itself is incredibly recognizable.

00:16:07.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:16:16.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:16:17.40
Adz
um Yeah, yeah. I mean, they could have gone so Comic Sans, that would have stirred some, stirred some pots, wouldn't it?

00:16:24.88
youcantcompthis
That would have really triggered some people, I think.

00:16:26.07
Adz
That would have been, exactly, there would have been a lot of reporting to to social media posts, I'm sure.

00:16:26.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:16:33.77
Adz
Inappropriate use of ah Comic Sans.

00:16:38.35
Adz
Maybe we should run a poll, what's the most offensive font? Anyway, windings.

00:16:43.78
youcantcompthis
I think at this point, we don't deep dive into this too much more. You know, I think top's Chrome is coming.

00:16:48.26
Adz
No, no.

00:16:49.92
youcantcompthis
People are going to be excited about it. And, you know, let's hold tight until it gets there.

00:16:54.42
Adz
I think there's a, there's a current um A current lot of collectors that maybe don't have the same excitement level as some of us that have been in the hobby a bit longer, but it's nice to see it back. It is nice to see it back.

00:17:12.54
youcantcompthis
Look, I'm I think I've made my opinion pretty clear about this until I actually see the product. I'm not going to be, you know, jumping to too many conclusions.

00:17:19.37
Adz
Ooh, reserving judgment, I like it.

00:17:20.31
youcantcompthis
I think people have. No, I just think pen Panini have been painted as the bad guy here, but it's actually possible that.

00:17:30.87
Adz
Maybe they're not.

00:17:30.97
youcantcompthis
Maybe they're not as bad as fanatics. You know what I mean? Like we the only thing I've seen from Phoenix so far is them doing some pretty dodgy deals, you know, against other companies. And so do you then trust that person with the hobby future, you know, that also has a monopoly?

00:17:45.94
youcantcompthis
Like, you know, you're not selling me.

00:17:47.15
Adz
but you don't have it's really We really don't have a choice. that We don't have a choice in the matter, unfortunately.

00:17:51.13
youcantcompthis
We don't have a choice, but it doesn't mean that, you know, anyway, you know what I'm getting to.

00:17:55.25
Adz
It's true, it's true. I know exactly what you're gonna get.

00:17:57.55
youcantcompthis
Alright, let's move on. I don't want this to be a ah poopoo on fanatics when they haven't done much yet.

00:18:02.84
Adz
yeah

00:18:02.93
youcantcompthis
Alright, let's go to our first commercial break, which is a little bit of an announcement for us to add.

00:18:03.42
Adz
i'm sure that they'll do things

00:18:08.59
youcantcompthis
We will be at the hobby hangout. Hobby Hangout is Sunday the 17th of november event November. So I think the other thing for us to declare at this point too is they are sponsoring us to be there.

00:18:20.84
youcantcompthis
They are sponsoring us for some advertisement. So this is a paid advertisement and we couldn't be happier to be back in bed with the boys from the Hobby Hangout.

00:18:28.04
Adz
Yeah, I'm sure that they'll do things.

00:18:28.62
youcantcompthis
So thank you so much for your ongoing support. It's it's been ah enormous for us.

00:18:33.83
Adz
Yeah, they they put on a great show.

00:18:34.70
youcantcompthis
Hobby Hangout.

00:18:35.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:36.15
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think they've spent a lot of time curating it, a lot of time improving it.

00:18:36.85
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:40.37
youcantcompthis
They listen to people in terms of you know what needs to be done. so I think the big one we spoke about last time was the lighting. you know That was just fantastic.

00:18:47.19
Adz
Hmm.

00:18:48.40
youcantcompthis
They've also got a early bird presale competition. Go into the draw to win a $500 hobby hangout voucher.

00:18:56.79
Adz
Ooh.

00:18:57.07
youcantcompthis
Each patron will also receive a goodie bag on entry. So that's also new for this year too. So goodie bags for everyone. Everyone loves free stuff. Like let's be honest about that.

00:19:07.12
Adz
Everyone likes goodies.

00:19:07.39
youcantcompthis
Trading zone, of course, workshops, live breaks. There's going to be a panel. There's also going to be live podcasts. Our name isn't technically under the live podcasting thing, but I add, I think we can reveal that we will be back in live potting.

00:19:20.28
Adz
Oh, we're there.

00:19:21.57
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:19:21.77
Adz
Whether they allow it or not, no, no. we We're in negotiations for the finer details. We won't be rogue podcasting, I'm sure.

00:19:26.80
youcantcompthis
so The hobby Australia card and collectibles will be there, so that's Lane and his fantastic 130 point app. Pokeology, Slaw collectibles, this is just a few random ones, 8-bit cards, PG collectibles, Boop collectibles, the Melbourne Card Tell, Jake's Breaks, Card Slinger collectibles, Jam City sports cards,

00:19:45.32
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:19:49.81
youcantcompthis
Edge Collectibles, Pokey Mags, Card Fever, and Carson TCG, who has been making some moves in the Melbourne hobby scene of late, old Carson has, so...

00:20:01.10
Adz
Nice, very nice. It's gonna be busy. It's gonna be awesome. It's November, it's not far away.

00:20:07.89
youcantcompthis
No.

00:20:08.50
Adz
it will be It will be the middle of November in, I say no time, but it's three months away. It's not not like it's, Yeah.

00:20:16.05
youcantcompthis
Imminently.

00:20:17.72
Adz
Very, very much so.

00:20:19.08
youcantcompthis
Imminently.

00:20:20.08
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:23.00
youcantcompthis
So we're back, everybody. Welcome back. Thank you for coming back. Now, this next story is normally I would be engaging in some sort of hardcore shade and Freud right now, but this is not the perspective that I'll be approaching this story from. This is about shine going to the Nationals.

00:20:46.33
youcantcompthis
flying home in a private jet and then opening an $80,000 case of cards, exquisite, only to find out that it had been reasonably well resealed.

00:21:00.08
youcantcompthis
I think that's the best way to say it. He live streamed the whole thing. So in terms of having, you know, a body of proof or or evidence, which I don't think that's why he was live streaming.

00:21:07.47
Adz
Mmm Yep

00:21:11.05
youcantcompthis
And I actually think it was a slight flex. He's like, check me out.

00:21:16.00
Adz
Yeah yeah

00:21:16.20
youcantcompthis
I'm in a private jet. I'm ripping 80Ks worth of cards. um Now, really interestingly, at the start, people were saying, you've been dotted. Then the next sort of wave of comments that came through through Twitter was that actually in that exquisite year, there was multiple years of cards in it.

00:21:37.04
Adz
Ah.

00:21:37.03
youcantcompthis
to then people saying, you don't know your product, but then it came back that then when people check those cards more thoroughly, those particular cards weren't in, even though it was a multi-year thing, they weren't in the checklist.

00:21:48.76
Adz
In that checklist, okay.

00:21:49.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So then by the time he got to the third box, he didn't even rip it open. And so fast forwarding, you know, two weeks. So, cause I haven't spoken to you for a couple of weeks now.

00:21:58.73
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:21:59.55
youcantcompthis
He actually got his money back from the person that he purchased it from, but it does leave,

00:22:04.91
Adz
Nice. it's not it' It does leave a foul taste, doesn't it?

00:22:09.24
youcantcompthis
leaves a foul taste, but also to, you know, someone's holding that back, right? And so who knows, you know, where that person got it from. But interesting, you know, thing about this, and I suppose, you know, this is kind of where um I might just change up the, the sheet a little bit here.

00:22:18.71
Adz
That's...

00:22:27.80
youcantcompthis
ad So I think this is probably the perfect opportunity for you. Actually, I'll let you chip in first and then I'll i'll segue into the next little bit.

00:22:35.18
Adz
Oh look, it just goes to show how much, how my how open we are to exploitation in the hobby.

00:22:47.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:22:47.26
Adz
And and they' therere it leaves me with a bit of ah a bad taste because you know there are people out there that don't have the best of intentions for the people in this hobby.

00:22:57.13
youcantcompthis
Yep, that's exactly right.

00:22:57.95
Adz
um ah it doesn't It doesn't sit well with me and look, I guess the big thing is that people are aware that these things happen and that they they report it. they have to um That's the way we protect each other in this community, because there is no formal way of regulating it, but making sure that that we're educated is definitely one of the ways that we protect one and another.

00:23:24.24
youcantcompthis
I think that is part of it, and I think the other part too is about having sellers that you trust.

00:23:31.13
Adz
Yeah.

00:23:31.82
youcantcompthis
And so where I'm going with that is, so for example, for my sealed, I only purchase from one person.

00:23:32.58
Adz
Yep.

00:23:37.39
Adz
ye

00:23:37.74
youcantcompthis
but Part of that is is trust, part of it is laziness, and part of it is

00:23:38.02
Adz
Yep.

00:23:41.98
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:23:42.87
youcantcompthis
I know the service. I know what I'm paying for is what I'm getting. And there's nothing, there's no gray in this equation.

00:23:46.90
Adz
Yeah.

00:23:49.05
youcantcompthis
It's all very, a very black and white thing. And so if you take that one step further than that, and I've been thinking a bit about this lately. So let's take the name of a card shop in Melbourne that is a fruit and let's call it Apple Collectibles, hypothetically.

00:24:07.94
Adz
Call them strawberries.

00:24:09.34
youcantcompthis
Strawberry collectibles and strawberry collectibles over the years have copped a bit of flack here and there for some of the things that they've done um that might not have always been perfect for all collectors opinions, right?

00:24:23.82
Adz
Yep.

00:24:24.23
youcantcompthis
but But at the same time, and pricing is one of the things that they've been criticized for, but at the same time, if you go to strawberry collectibles, I would say their name, but they're not paying us for advertising.

00:24:26.24
Adz
Hmm.

00:24:34.53
youcantcompthis
So I'm going to say like, you know, too bad, so sad for that. um

00:24:40.88
youcantcompthis
But you at least know what you're getting when you're dealing with these people. And I think that's, you know, when you sort of like get down to it and you you're not always getting the best deal from them or you're not always, you know, getting the best price or, you know, whatever it is that, you know, you've been criticized for, but at the same time, you are getting what you paid for.

00:24:46.24
Adz
Mm.

00:24:57.18
youcantcompthis
And I think, you know, how much you value that or whatever price you put it at in my mind, that value is becoming more and more valuable to me.

00:25:06.69
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:07.32
youcantcompthis
Does that make sense?

00:25:07.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:07.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And when I say stuff like this, I'm like, That's why I am quite conservative for so with some of the things that I do in the hobby.

00:25:15.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:15.18
youcantcompthis
You might be able to get a better price from, you know, whatever guy that's selling it at some delicious price. But yeah, like what actually are you getting, you know? So, yeah. um

00:25:24.78
Adz
Yeah, you could go to some random, I don't know, market or place to try and find a better deal.

00:25:30.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:25:30.26
Adz
And yeah, you might find a better deal.

00:25:32.01
youcantcompthis
So kind of be honest with you, and I actually wonder that's what happened to Shine, to be honest.

00:25:32.91
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:35.56
youcantcompthis
I think he probably bought it off somebody that, you know, might not have been that reputable.

00:25:35.97
Adz
Hmm.

00:25:39.21
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:39.37
youcantcompthis
And I actually suspect the person who sold it to him didn't do the scam.

00:25:46.65
Adz
Hmm.

00:25:46.70
youcantcompthis
They were dealing with someone else who scammed. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah.

00:25:49.08
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, secondhand scamming, like as in, it was on selling it to try and make, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:51.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:25:54.55
youcantcompthis
Because he would never get his money back if that dude was scaring him. And I think that's also where this becomes like it's a bit shady sometimes.

00:26:00.68
Adz
Yeah, that's, yeah.

00:26:02.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So let's hold that thought because let's now go into our next segment, which is about Industrial Inspecting and Consulting LLC.

00:26:10.39
Adz
Yep.

00:26:12.59
youcantcompthis
So this company is the one that everyone has been talking about. But for some weird reason, I haven't heard

00:26:17.24
Adz
yep

00:26:20.29
youcantcompthis
one person say the name of the company. And for me, that's like a little bit perplexing, to be honest. Like so this is so if you listen to sports cards nonsense, if you listen to Jeff Wilson online, this is who they're talking about.

00:26:26.85
Adz
Yeah. yeah

00:26:30.12
Adz
Okay.

00:26:34.03
youcantcompthis
This is the people who are offering the services to. Scan your products, X-ray your products, and then they can tell you.

00:26:44.79
youcantcompthis
What's what's in the boxes, what's in the packets, right?

00:26:47.30
Adz
okay

00:26:47.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And so. What to me is really interesting about this is not only do they have prices online, um they also offer you the software for you to to look at your own CT scans. They also offer you the service that will analyze the scans for you to you know to help you pick it out. And it's all pretty transparent on their web page. And it didn't take me that long to just Google search and you know find this ad. so um

00:27:21.44
Adz
I'm having a look at this site, I can't...

00:27:22.80
youcantcompthis
Where do you where do you sit on this in terms of where this fits into the hobby? Because I think from what I understand, looking on Reddit about this, is that this has been going on for a while, but now it's just becoming into the mainstream. So people have been doing it, but now it's available commercially.

00:27:46.89
Adz
I think it's...

00:27:50.84
Adz
I think it's incredibly unethical. um But the fact that it's entering the mainstream is just like, it just shows you the lengths that people are prepared to go to, ah to try and defraud the community.

00:28:02.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah, sure.

00:28:07.96
Adz
and And to try and get an advantage, an unfair advantage might I add.

00:28:11.05
youcantcompthis
ah Yeah, so i I personally think defraud is, I know where you're coming from when you say that, but I don't think that's probably the right word. So get an unfair advantage. I think that's like the key, right?

00:28:20.61
Adz
Mm.

00:28:21.52
youcantcompthis
So, and then from that, then you say, then you unpack it a bit more and you say, so what else do people do add to try and get an unfair advantage in the hobby? They weigh packets.

00:28:31.57
Adz
Yeah.

00:28:32.06
youcantcompthis
And then the other big one recently was with Crown Royale. Remember that thing where people, they calculated the serial number and then they knew which one had the kaboomz and which one didn't, right?

00:28:36.85
Adz
Yeah.

00:28:41.20
Adz
yeah

00:28:41.24
youcantcompthis
So that's the, the three sort of big ones that, you know, come to my mind. But, so let's take, um, Pac Wang in first, right? So the people that get the heavy packs think that they're getting a, a relic card.

00:28:57.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:28:58.03
youcantcompthis
right and so in select hobby that doesn't work because there's blockers in it and there's a few other products that they do stuff like that sort of even out the odds a little bit but actually for me if you're asking me do I want a heavy pack or a light pack I'm probably taking the light pack because then I think you've got more chance of getting an autograph in it and then you're more more likely to get a numbered card and I

00:29:16.04
Adz
Yeah, okay.

00:29:20.19
youcantcompthis
probably think they're more valuable than patches anyway, like in terms of, you know, aftermarket resale.

00:29:21.89
Adz
Mmm.

00:29:26.55
youcantcompthis
So I think that, I think that theory doesn't stand that strong to me.

00:29:32.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:33.12
youcantcompthis
The one about Kaboom, I think that's a home run and you you can't argue with that. No matter if, if I'm trying to be the glass half full empty, that's a stupid argument. Like those people are just like playing the game and you know, where does paying for dud boxes?

00:29:47.38
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:47.99
youcantcompthis
And then this one here, the x-raying in the CT, I'm really in the middle on this. I'm actually not too sure on how this is comprehensively going to change.

00:29:59.17
youcantcompthis
I sort of put this in the same equation as Pac-Wang, to be honest.

00:30:01.90
Adz
Mmm Yeah, the scanning side of it is just like Yeah Yeah for sure

00:30:02.96
youcantcompthis
and Like, I'm not really that too sure, like, you know, where it fits in.

00:30:11.34
youcantcompthis
If you're spending $75 on a pack to have that scanned, how many packets do you need to scan to get back the return on investment? like I think this is the same thing of like the bank wins or the casino wins. I think and the casino in this instance is the It's the CT scanners, guys. So if you send in 10 packets, that's $750. Like that's before you've paid for your product. How many packets do you need to scan to, you know, get that back? Like, oh, I mean, I don't, I don't know, man. Like what would that work on?

00:30:45.45
Adz
I am I'm just going of because for for those on the vlog just so you're aware Russell i'm I'm on that website I'm just scanning their case studies and bits and pieces and ah I don't know for me it looks

00:30:54.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:00.33
Adz
suspicious as far as they what they're trying to do. They're trying to use technology to to to get an unfair advantage. That's a Pokemon card scan as well.

00:31:10.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:12.08
Adz
But yeah.

00:31:12.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So just just for just for clarity where I sit on this, I don't agree with this, but I'm just trying to objectively um analyze how much of the impact on the hobby this is going to have.

00:31:26.85
Adz
Mmm.

00:31:28.62
youcantcompthis
And so down a little bit in the thing it says here, um Logan Paul just call us next time. And that's why I thought we could tie this in with Shine.

00:31:38.70
youcantcompthis
So I actually wonder if this is where it really does come into like really good value. So so Shine is, so Shine makes an $80,000 purchase, right?

00:31:44.02
Adz
Okay. Yep.

00:31:48.47
youcantcompthis
He can scan it and then they can say, oh, actually this has been repacked or actually this hasn't got the right cards in it.

00:31:51.82
Adz
Mmm.

00:31:56.14
youcantcompthis
And I actually think if you're using it for good and you're using it for a proper reason, I think that's the type of thing that it will be fantastic for. Because like think about, for example, in the ultra modern game, Prism Hobby from 1819, like at some point that's going to be selling for $5,000, $8,000, $10,000 a box, right?

00:32:16.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:32:16.33
youcantcompthis
Great. Chuck it into a scanner, see if it is legit and everything is like all packed up in it properly. Yeah. Fantastic. Then you can get it back. I think that's the type of stuff that, you know, that will be fantastic for.

00:32:29.02
Adz
True.

00:32:29.98
youcantcompthis
If it, if it could be done.

00:32:30.01
Adz
They um that they've made a statement.

00:32:31.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:33.06
Adz
They've released. Oh, sorry. There's a statement on the vlog with regards to the world's first collector card CT scanning service.

00:32:39.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:40.94
Adz
So update is the the third of August. we are We are aware and working through the moral dilemma of CT scanning sealed collectibles.

00:32:50.50
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:32:50.60
Adz
Our objective position is one of scientific ability and data-driven results. It's not our responsibility to determine the ethical positions and choices of others, and we do not expect accept responsibility for their actions.

00:33:04.21
Adz
So it's a bit of a disclaimer for them. One, we've brought awareness to the entire industry of the existence of these capabilities of this technology.

00:33:09.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:33:12.96
Adz
it is up to individuals to make an informed decision moving forward.

00:33:15.94
youcantcompthis
But that's a cop-out. and That is an absolute cop-out.

00:33:17.37
Adz
and he's such a it's ah it's a it's orica they they've got a If it's a legitimate business, I'm guessing they've got a legal team that's drafted this, or they've tried to do it to have some kind of legal stance.

00:33:19.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:33:28.04
Adz
In light of information we've received from industry insiders, we believe companies are using this technology in secret to take advantage of the collectibles market. Three, we are making this technology accessible to everyone rather than just the minority. So we're going to exploit everybody and take their money to to do what we know is unethical.

00:33:48.91
youcantcompthis
No, but to take that. So to take that last point, ah I don't think that many people in the community deny that this is going on to take their point.

00:33:58.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:33:59.59
youcantcompthis
Right. So again, I'm not taking sides here, but I'm just trying to be objective.

00:34:00.25
Adz
Yep. yep

00:34:03.34
youcantcompthis
Right. And that is not, no one out there has said that this is not happening.

00:34:04.07
Adz
Yep.

00:34:07.17
Adz
Yep.

00:34:09.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:34:10.11
Adz
And they're just making the technology available is what they're claiming.

00:34:12.87
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:34:13.07
Adz
ah They've got, we are we are working on policies to combat de set deceptive practices. And we're working on partnering with manufacturers to develop packaging security solutions.

00:34:24.15
Adz
We'll continue to consider every request we receive.

00:34:24.55
youcantcompthis
Great.

00:34:28.03
Adz
This technology is here to stay and there will probably be additional companies offering a service at some time in the future.

00:34:35.07
youcantcompthis
There will be, absolutely.

00:34:35.31
Adz
And what, yep.

00:34:36.13
youcantcompthis
and And talking about requests, I've sent them an email request to come on the podcast. So if you are somehow listening, industrialinspection dot.com, ah we would love to hear your perspective on

00:34:40.97
Adz
Awesome.

00:34:46.69
Adz
we Well, and they're final, they've got one final update and said the majority of requests we've received have been from people curious about the value of their 30 year old collections.

00:34:58.96
Adz
if this is their opportunity for a life-changing moment.

00:35:03.89
youcantcompthis
I mean, I just want to like, you swear where it's right now, like get fucked. Like what they're really, what they're really trying to say is, should I sell this or should I open it? Right?

00:35:12.37
Adz
You should have just played the Kawhi clip.

00:35:14.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:35:15.67
Adz
Really?

00:35:19.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Come on.

00:35:19.76
Adz
Yep.

00:35:19.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:35:20.90
Adz
Yep. So, look, i'd love to I'd love to have a chat with them. That'd be... yeah

00:35:24.12
youcantcompthis
So I'm going to throw these guys some shade though. So what stops them from, okay. So I've got a case of flawless, right? I send it into them.

00:35:30.56
Adz
Yeah.

00:35:32.02
youcantcompthis
It's got some good cards in it. What stops them keeping that and sending me out a dead one?

00:35:34.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:35:37.72
youcantcompthis
like had

00:35:38.23
Adz
Yeah, well, oh je that's even more deceptive.

00:35:40.55
youcantcompthis
what If someone is partaking in this type of behavior, which we probably consider to be dubious, why would you trust them with your valuable stuff?

00:35:41.24
Adz
It's layers upon of deception.

00:35:49.02
Adz
Oh, this is, yeah. So this is this is full. I think that they their little declaration

00:35:54.07
youcantcompthis
I would take that a step further. Just say 10 people send them in $100,000 worth of stuff each, that's a million bucks. What stops someone from just taking that million dollars worth of stuff and disappearing into the ether?

00:36:06.30
Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's true.

00:36:08.28
youcantcompthis
I mean, how delicious would that be?

00:36:11.83
Adz
Terrifying is too bad, isn't it?

00:36:13.35
youcantcompthis
Meh.

00:36:15.50
Adz
I don't know. I Yeah, I feel like the update they've put on their website is very much a covering ones behind scenario.

00:36:26.11
Adz
They're trying to draw a line in the sand and go, look, we don't conduct we're we're not condoning unethical stuff. We're just providing technology. How people choose to use that is is up to them.

00:36:36.15
youcantcompthis
Or they've had a lot of criticism online and in DM and in emails, and now they're just saying, it's not us who's doing the bad stuff.

00:36:38.89
Adz
yeah

00:36:41.85
Adz
Yep.

00:36:44.34
youcantcompthis
We're just, you know, it's like drug dealers.

00:36:46.31
Adz
we are We only make the weapons.

00:36:47.52
youcantcompthis
We're not, that's all right. It's the government.

00:36:53.01
Adz
Yep, yep.

00:36:53.91
youcantcompthis
Hey, let's not get too political. We don't do, we don't do politics on this show.

00:36:55.08
Adz
Yeah, I was gonna say, yep.

00:36:58.27
Adz
No, we don't.

00:37:00.53
youcantcompthis
All right. On that note, let's take a break. It is the it is the time to have ah a break.

00:37:03.71
Adz
Let's do it.

00:37:05.96
youcantcompthis
Go get a coffee ad and we'll come back.

00:37:07.71
Adz
Yep, go and grab a drink.

00:37:09.70
youcantcompthis
While you're grabbing a drink, I will do an advertisement. U.S. Sports Cards Australia, are our primary. And if everything goes well, they're going to be with us for at least the next 12 months.

00:37:21.30
youcantcompthis
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00:37:25.85
youcantcompthis
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00:37:30.59
Adz
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00:37:36.80
youcantcompthis
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00:38:06.95
youcantcompthis
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00:38:37.87
youcantcompthis
for the search and also the login function there. Adam, we're back. Thanks for coming back, mate.

00:38:46.37
Adz
Thank you, I'm now very hydrated.

00:38:48.61
youcantcompthis
Excellent. And ah the music this week has been very Paul Dempsey heavy and Bernard Fanning and Bob Dylan, which is not really a surprise for me, but I did get two new CDs this week. So I've done a bit of Bob Dylan smashing and

00:39:05.32
Adz
That's fair, that's fair.

00:39:06.61
youcantcompthis
Fanning Dempsey National Park. Have you heard the new album?

00:39:09.62
Adz
No, I haven't. Although I will i will confess that last week's playlist, some of which was inspired by the fact that I went to see Deadpool versus Wolverine.

00:39:11.00
youcantcompthis
OK.

00:39:19.51
Adz
So.

00:39:19.88
youcantcompthis
yeah Awesome.

00:39:22.21
Adz
Couldn't help it.

00:39:22.97
youcantcompthis
Do you like Bernard Fanning or Paul Dempsey?

00:39:25.10
Adz
I do like Bernard Fanning.

00:39:26.86
youcantcompthis
OK, so at least have one listen and then, because it's it's actually worth listening to.

00:39:26.88
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:39:30.52
youcantcompthis
So, yeah.

00:39:30.72
Adz
Nice.

00:39:32.66
youcantcompthis
All right. We're going to talk about The Goat. two points, three rebounds, one assist, one of nine field goals, and zero of three in the three point line.

00:39:43.73
youcantcompthis
Adam Amy, whose box score is that?

00:39:47.07
Adz
Can I have three guesses as well?

00:39:48.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you can. You can have four.

00:39:50.37
Adz
All right, so given given what I've seen on social media, i would ah my first guess was going to be Jason Tatum, but I don't think he got enough time on the court to do that.

00:39:53.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:59.84
youcantcompthis
He didn't get that many minutes to get nine shots up, mate.

00:40:00.53
Adz
to get yeah hi that Exactly, he didn't I don't think he got the time on the court.

00:40:02.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:40:05.30
Adz
ah My second guess would have been Bronnie James, just because it always is now, like just thought dragging me to everything.

00:40:15.35
youcantcompthis
Nah, unfortunately not.

00:40:17.01
Adz
No. um same Team Canada.

00:40:18.25
youcantcompthis
Team Canada he played for, I'll give you... Yeah.

00:40:22.17
Adz
Was it... Oh, who do I not like on Team Canada?

00:40:27.58
youcantcompthis
Think about who I don't like.

00:40:30.49
Adz
Who you don't like on Team Canada.

00:40:32.41
youcantcompthis
Nah, it's Dylan Brooks.

00:40:32.74
Adz
It's not SGA. He put up good numbers.

00:40:36.16
youcantcompthis
Dylan Brooks.

00:40:37.92
Adz
I was going to be mean and say someone like Kelly Olenek or something, but no.

00:40:44.28
youcantcompthis
Whose quote is this?

00:40:44.40
Adz
Good.

00:40:46.58
youcantcompthis
It kills me that I have to wait four more years.

00:40:50.79
Adz
Oh, that's um that's Josh Giddy. I watched the Olympics.

00:40:55.53
youcantcompthis
You you would think after the last 12 months that he just had saying something like it kills me, I have to wait four more years. It's something he's publicist was saying to him, Josh, whatever you say at the end of today's game, do not say it kills me.

00:41:03.40
Adz
if you

00:41:11.99
youcantcompthis
I have to wait for four more years.

00:41:15.62
Adz
I don't know, there's worse things you could say.

00:41:19.40
youcantcompthis
I'm only is man Yeah

00:41:21.26
Adz
Josh Giddy is going to be the face of Australian basketball, I think, um for for a while. I think he is taking taking the traut the torch from Patti. I don't think Patti Mills is going to make it through the next Olympics, although they did give Joe Ingalls a random spot on the roster for no reason, um the one that they should have given to Matisse Thiebel.

00:41:41.33
Adz
I'm not going to go on a rant now, but I've already done that on another pod.

00:41:44.76
youcantcompthis
So it seems like there was a bit more to that than um met the the public eye. Apparently, he didn't get that well with the rest of the group. There was some sort of division within the locker room on that.

00:41:56.57
youcantcompthis
So that was a a locker room decision.

00:41:59.03
Adz
I don't know, fear country you.

00:42:00.65
youcantcompthis
It wasn't a talent decision. Yeah.

00:42:02.04
Adz
So it's Matisse, Isaiah, Thomas, Thiebel.

00:42:06.87
youcantcompthis
yeah That's right.

00:42:08.29
Adz
Okay, maybe quite not quite Isaiah.

00:42:08.61
youcantcompthis
But maybe not quite quite that bad. yeah So, yeah, to take your point about Josh Giddy, he played very well. And I think if you are a Chicago Bulls fan and or Josh Giddy holder.

00:42:22.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah, very exciting.

00:42:22.85
Adz
Exciting, exciting times, exciting times for sure.

00:42:26.71
youcantcompthis
So when I was making the list, my favorite event was the Turkish shooter, Yusuf Disic turning up with his glasses on his hand in his pocket, winning a silver medal. That to me was just like the, um, my, my favorite Olympics moment.

00:42:40.63
youcantcompthis
But then just, you know, yesterday or the day before we had that Australian breakdown. So doing the, uh, the water sprinkler and then some crazy like kangaroo hop and just like won the Olympics basically.

00:42:50.44
Adz
It was um not our fight not our finest moment.

00:42:52.57
youcantcompthis
So congratulations to her.

00:42:54.98
Adz
i

00:42:55.30
youcantcompthis
Wasn't it? I think that's the most. just i was I've been thinking about this like way too much. It's probably the most Australian thing that could have been done at.

00:43:01.64
Adz
It was like, here you go, hold my beer, I'm gonna go out and break dance.

00:43:02.58
youcantcompthis
Do you know what I mean? Sending like a mid 30s university lecturer along who hopped like a kangaroo and did the sprinkler.

00:43:15.54
youcantcompthis
It just doesn't get any better, really.

00:43:17.18
Adz
Oh, my, my, my highlight in that, in that little patch was the, um, Oh, when I was watching the basketball, I flipped over and watched the skateboarding, like literal favorite highlights was watching.

00:43:26.73
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:43:29.38
Adz
Um, yeah. Uh, women and men skateboarders that both won gold was pretty good.

00:43:33.05
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:43:35.48
Adz
14 year olds.

00:43:35.85
youcantcompthis
Great.

00:43:36.22
Adz
And now she's got a duck. She, her parents promised her if she won the gold, they'd get, they'd buy her a pet duck.

00:43:38.73
youcantcompthis
Cool.

00:43:42.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

00:43:42.96
Adz
So now they're in the, in the, in the, yeah. Oh well. Be careful what you promise your children, I guess.

00:43:51.13
youcantcompthis
<unk>s one been Yeah.

00:43:51.74
Adz
Hmm.

00:43:52.57
youcantcompthis
Like it wasn't an elephant, I suppose.

00:43:52.66
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:53.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:43:54.01
Adz
I dunno, it was more entertaining watching the skateboarding than it was watching the Aussies later the other night. Anyway.

00:44:00.14
Adz
Not bitter about that at all.

00:44:00.19
youcantcompthis
Uh, so I think actually that's the end of my Olympic sort of take almost straight away on that. I've been watching more summer league replays than Olympics. So I think this is a really, it's a boring take, but the Memphis Grizzlies won the summer league, uh, in a very comprehensive way, but actually, and what I mean by win, I think in terms of their talent development.

00:44:16.93
Adz
Yeah, that's that's that is pretty boring.

00:44:24.74
Adz
o

00:44:25.76
youcantcompthis
And I think also in terms of just. You know, it's really hard to have a competitive veteran team and also a good summer league team.

00:44:32.24
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:33.34
youcantcompthis
Like there's not that many teams that do that. Like the normal trajectory is the Detroit Pistons will win the summer league because all their players are young and all of them need development and call time.

00:44:35.61
Adz
yeah

00:44:44.30
youcantcompthis
So, you know, like Kate Cunningham would be there or, you know, Jaden Ivey.

00:44:47.35
Adz
Yeah, yep, yep for sure.

00:44:47.87
youcantcompthis
And so. So I think that's where I found that really interesting. So for me, the standouts were Scottie Pippen Jr. I think in my mind, he's gone from someone that is an NBA player's son who, um you know, without sending too condescending, a a little bit like Bronnie James is maybe, you know, there because his dad's there. But now he's gone from someone that, you know, it was drafted, then he's been playing in the G League and really developed nicely as a player, like his performance at the G League.

00:45:19.72
youcantcompthis
I think was fantastic. So I think if you are holding Scotty Pippen Jr, I think that's really good for you right now.

00:45:21.03
Adz
Hmm Yeah,

00:45:25.56
youcantcompthis
And I think you could also start prospecting on this kid to, you know, watch some summer league footage, see what you think of him.

00:45:30.05
Adz
okay Yeah, you're speaking to my soul Russell, you know, I'm a Pippin I've got it Now i'm I'm tempted I'm tempted but but by son Hmm Yep

00:45:31.34
youcantcompthis
I think his cards are, you know, really cheap, you know, still. So I think that's really good. But look, I think watched a couple of summer league games ad, he played really good basketball, you know, to the point that you're like, anyway, so where I'm going with this, so is Gigi Jackson.

00:45:50.96
youcantcompthis
That was the other one that, you know, I've been personally really interested in.

00:45:52.99
Adz
Okay.

00:45:54.89
youcantcompthis
So what we're going to do now is go through a bit of a deep dive on Gigi Jackson.

00:45:58.47
Adz
Nice.

00:45:58.82
youcantcompthis
And then we can talk some card values. I've got some of that in there too. And so I think the other part of this too, is that he's been in my social media a lot. So I was a little bit curious, you know, who is Gigi Jackson?

00:46:09.50
Adz
Mmm.

00:46:10.44
youcantcompthis
So hopefully I can answer that question for you. Where we're going to start with this is

00:46:18.91
youcantcompthis
NBA draft net. I think that is the best place to start because these, these NBA draft net guys, they just deep dive these guys for years before they come to the NBA. And it sort of gives you like a look back in time.

00:46:30.24
youcantcompthis
So this is sort of going back two years now.

00:46:30.86
Adz
Okay.

00:46:31.96
youcantcompthis
So six foot nine, 215 pounds power forward. That's what they listed him as. NBA comparison is Marcus Morris. And so when you think about that, you sort of think about someone who's, you know, he's pretty big, he's pretty tough.

00:46:39.68
Adz
Okay.

00:46:44.47
youcantcompthis
He can do a little bit of everything, but nothing that particularly good. And then when I think about the Morris Twins is like they're not particularly that good at ball handling and, you know, playmaking, creating is something that they're not that particularly good at.

00:46:48.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:46:56.73
youcantcompthis
So that's the type of player that um he was in college. And it sort of goes through a bit of a, you know, a talk about that one.

00:47:00.33
Adz
Hmm.

00:47:02.99
youcantcompthis
There's a couple of interesting points in here. Excellent length with a seven foot wingspan. And that's the thing that's really stood out to me is that his wingspan is to the point where I feel like in the NBA, he can guard one between four.

00:47:12.55
Adz
Yep.

00:47:15.20
youcantcompthis
And I think that's where he's really going to have some value in the NBA.

00:47:20.11
youcantcompthis
Interesting, it says in here that he's a really good run and jump athlete, whereas when I look at him, I think of him more as sort of like a slow plotting.

00:47:24.07
Adz
Okay.

00:47:29.28
youcantcompthis
He's not like an Anthony Edwards above the rim athlete. Look, he can definitely get up and dunk and he can get rebounds, but he's more kind of like a below the rim sort of athlete in my mind.

00:47:38.43
Adz
on body, body on body kind of guy.

00:47:38.64
youcantcompthis
But Yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:47:40.35
Adz
Yeah. A post-op.

00:47:41.11
youcantcompthis
He's definitely a big guy that can do some stuff.

00:47:41.39
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:42.71
youcantcompthis
So that's where I always like to start. Then the next thing that I'm really interested about too is, you know, where he was drafted. So he was drafted pick 45. So I think, you know, in terms of where you getting some value on this guy, you know, he's a second round pick.

00:47:57.44
Adz
Hmm.

00:47:57.48
youcantcompthis
So the last sort of 12 months, if you've been picking him up and now he's had a really good show out, you know, that's really good.

00:48:02.72
Adz
Yep.

00:48:03.24
youcantcompthis
um And then the other thing that I like to look at too is is age. So where you get this information information from is you go to nba dot.com, you go to stats and players, then you sort it out for the 23-24 season.

00:48:12.79
Adz
Yep.

00:48:15.67
youcantcompthis
When you click on the age column, it will just sort it out for you now. At the moment in the league, there's only a handful of 19-year-olds, Bilal Kullibale, Cam Whitmore of the Houston Rockets, Bilal we've spoke about a few times on the show for the Wizards, Dariq Whitehead for the Nets, Gigi Jackson of Memphis, Noah Clowney of Brooklyn.

00:48:22.59
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:37.20
youcantcompthis
So they've got two really young kids there. And there's a whole heap of, you know, 20-year-olds in there too.

00:48:40.06
Adz
yeah

00:48:42.45
youcantcompthis
So, you know, that's something else that I like to see in a prospect, someone who's really young.

00:48:43.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:46.43
Adz
Yep.

00:48:46.91
youcantcompthis
so and And the importance of that is is this is that, you know, realistically, if you're 19 in the league, you could still be drafted the next two years and you can still make a pretty good argument that there could be still in that draft class.

00:48:58.77
Adz
Yep.

00:49:00.42
youcantcompthis
I think that's where that sort of comes in. um Then the next thing is just watching some video. So, yeah, I think the thing I spoke about with you is that um defending, I think he's really good. I think he's very opportunistic.

00:49:11.73
youcantcompthis
So I think that means what that means to me is that he knows where the ball is going to land.

00:49:16.77
Adz
Okay. Okay. So yeah, some smarts.

00:49:19.52
youcantcompthis
And he'll just pick it up and do some scoring. Yeah. And he's pretty good on the catch and shoot.

00:49:21.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:49:23.36
youcantcompthis
So that's what looks pretty good to me.

00:49:25.09
Adz
Okay.

00:49:25.29
youcantcompthis
So let's move into basketball cards. Now, this is the part where I was really surprised about because in my head, I'm like second round pick. There's not that much going on there, but actually he's had the 11th most prism cards graded from the 2023 rookie year.

00:49:41.33
youcantcompthis
which that really took me by surprise. So he's had 1,080 silvers graded, which I was ah shocked by that. I can't believe he's had that many cards sent in. ah Really high gem rate though, 75% gem rate, which probably means to me that not that many of them are being cracked and regraded because if they're grading that high, I don't think you're going to be doing it again.

00:49:55.20
Adz
Okay. Yeah true. Yeah very true.

00:50:07.17
youcantcompthis
807 gems are total. And then looking again, this is gem rate stats. So looking at these sort of weekly stats here, it's a very steady rise upwards. So I wonder if this social media influence that I've been seeing of this guy is also reflected in terms of his sort of hobby popularity and stuff like that.

00:50:17.22
Adz
Okay.

00:50:26.55
youcantcompthis
So I think where I was initially, I was like, oh, have I uncovered a gem here? But actually, I think what we're going to go on and talk a little bit now is that it's actually probably opposite. We might have missed the boat.

00:50:37.03
youcantcompthis
So a PSA 10, his last sales on the silver 10s is 100, 100, 100, 95, 90, 99, 105, 95, 92, 93, 114, 104, 110, 99, 95.

00:50:38.03
Adz
oh

00:50:49.89
youcantcompthis
Now that seems like a lot. Why am I going through all of that? The thing that I'd like to point out here is that is extremely consistent to the point that I actually wonder if there's like, the Trey Young quasi shield bidding group going on out there.

00:51:03.26
youcantcompthis
That is insanely consistent ad, like to the point that I actually, I think that's too consistent in my head.

00:51:05.95
Adz
Yeah, you're right.

00:51:10.02
youcantcompthis
um So that concerns me a little bit.

00:51:11.20
Adz
Mm.

00:51:12.79
youcantcompthis
The population for a second round pick concerns me a little bit. um Some raws are selling for 30 and 21. Now the trap here is you go, okay, great. PSA 10, you're tripling your money, 75% gem rate, but at PSA 9 is actually selling for 25.

00:51:30.14
Adz
Mm.

00:51:30.74
youcantcompthis
So if you buy it for 30 and then grade it and sell a 9 for 25, you know, you're at 50 bucks. So that that's a little bit of a trap there. Um, I found some other cards too, which I thought could really quickly talk about a green raw for 10 bucks, a jazz.

00:51:44.76
Adz
Okay.

00:51:46.21
youcantcompthis
So the, not the Utah jazz, the actual jazz optic short print that sold for 70 USD, a select RPA for 110 and ten optic auto blue, not numbered for 146.

00:51:51.93
Adz
Okay.

00:51:59.39
youcantcompthis
And then the crown Royal die cut, which I'm going to put onto socials this week, number to 75. That's all for 20 bucks. I, I was a little bit,

00:52:10.75
youcantcompthis
surprised by this. I was very surprised by this, actually. Yeah.

00:52:13.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:14.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:52:15.49
Adz
I, because I remember, was it was it Matthew Hull that put the question to it about social media influencing prices?

00:52:21.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah. yeah

00:52:24.15
Adz
Where did you first spot GG?

00:52:29.22
youcantcompthis
I'm actually not too sure. I just feel like

00:52:30.93
Adz
Do you think you were influenced by the social media algorithm as part of the, to to it draw your focus?

00:52:39.24
youcantcompthis
Look, I wouldn't deny it or say yes, but I think for me, it was probably more summer league. But I've definitely, when I started to think about it, I was definitely like, oh, I'm seeing this kid around.

00:52:44.51
Adz
Okay. Yeah.

00:52:48.88
youcantcompthis
So yeah, definitely.

00:52:48.90
Adz
The algorithm's been playing now. Who knows? Who knows? Could be.

00:52:52.76
youcantcompthis
Anyway, so I think that's probably where I'm sitting.

00:52:53.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:54.93
youcantcompthis
um At first, I was like, look, I think this is ah you know an uncovered gem, but actually I think we might have even missed the boat on this.

00:52:56.85
Adz
oh

00:53:01.44
youcantcompthis
Now, this is my sort of final thought on this. Gold vinyl optic one of one is currently for sale, ending in, it says four days on my sheet, but this might be sooner, ends in two days, 15 hours.

00:53:06.34
Adz
Okay.

00:53:13.86
youcantcompthis
Current bidding is $2,550.

00:53:13.87
Adz
okay

00:53:17.91
Adz
That's a hell of a gamble.

00:53:20.68
youcantcompthis
That's a lot. I was, I was quite surprised by that, because particularly too, when we know that most of the heat's going to come on in the last, you know, hour in this beating. So, um, after my little breakdown ad, where are you at with Gigi Jackson?

00:53:28.93
Adz
Yeah, that's some, that's nuts.

00:53:34.16
Adz
Definitely one to watch. I don't think ah ah don't think like it's a prime time to buy. I do like your ah yeah methodology there though. I do like the way you you've conducted sort of very very ah measured with your research.

00:53:42.11
youcantcompthis
Thank you.

00:53:46.95
Adz
Like you start analyzing the player, like I think the age is important very, very much so.

00:53:47.37
youcantcompthis
Thank you, sir.

00:53:53.40
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:53:53.82
Adz
Cause because players don't mature until like they they've got a bigger window, I guess, if they're younger.

00:53:59.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely.

00:53:59.91
Adz
um Whereas they've got that smaller window if you come in after four years.

00:54:04.79
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:54:05.13
Adz
Do you know what I mean? Like it is a 23 year old. You might be like, you've done a full, full stretch at college and you might look like a ready-made NBA player, but you're starting later than some of the other players.

00:54:17.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's pretty rare too, for people to come in late and be stars. Like there's not that many. So maybe the one that comes to my mind immediately is Dame Lillard. And I think he's really the last one that's done it successfully.

00:54:25.81
Adz
Lillard.

00:54:29.25
Adz
Yep.

00:54:29.47
youcantcompthis
I suppose Tim Duncan was the other one too, but you know, but yes.

00:54:33.50
Adz
He's spoken in differently.

00:54:33.58
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:54:34.66
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.

00:54:35.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:54:36.09
Adz
I know what you mean. Yep.

00:54:37.42
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:54:37.62
Adz
I mean, Kuzma thought he was. That was funny. Anyway.

00:54:42.85
youcantcompthis
Time for a break, my man.

00:54:51.09
youcantcompthis
Hey, um at the very start of the show when I was doing a bit of a sniff, did that come through?

00:54:55.78
Adz
I don't think so.

00:54:56.25
youcantcompthis
Because I muted my thing, but the sound wave came up on Zencaster.

00:55:00.81
Adz
I think you muting it might be fine.

00:55:03.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah, interesting.

00:55:03.80
Adz
Yeah, yeah, hopefully.

00:55:04.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:55:07.56
youcantcompthis
Cool. All right. You good to go, man?

00:55:10.20
Adz
I am.

00:55:11.19
youcantcompthis
Are you happy if we do my top 10 cards of the week?

00:55:14.31
Adz
Do your top 10 cards and then we'll obviously, and and the and the curry stuff and that's, oh, we gotta listen to questions too.

00:55:21.37
youcantcompthis
All right. I'll try not to crap on too much about my top 10 cards of the week.

00:55:25.05
Adz
That's all right.

00:55:25.39
youcantcompthis
All right. Top 10. All right. You ready? And we are back. Let's get straight back into it. Add the.

00:55:47.19
Adz
You have a bumper.

00:55:48.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Guess you had too much time on his hands this week.

00:55:51.96
Adz
I'm giving you another week off soon. This is cool, I like it. no

00:55:55.65
youcantcompthis
Thanks. Alrighty, for people at home who this is not their first episode with us. My previous top 10 cards went like this. Nicola Jokic, Jordan Inserts, Anthony Edwards, Numbered Rookies, Steph Curry Rookies, Bill Russell, Paula Banchero, Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones and Jalen Johnson. So that was my top 10. So let's start at number 10. New to list, Grace Walker. I have been high on this kid a little bit and I'm gonna stay with that highness. I think, um

00:56:32.15
youcantcompthis
I like him better than Gigi Jackson because he hasn't had the same hobby heat that Gigi's had.

00:56:35.91
Adz
Ooh.

00:56:39.92
youcantcompthis
I think that's a really good way to say it.

00:56:42.09
Adz
Okay.

00:56:43.17
youcantcompthis
ah Josh Giddy, also new to the list. We spoke about Josh a little bit before.

00:56:48.74
Adz
Top 10.

00:56:50.44
youcantcompthis
He's number nine, actually, Ed, so yeah, yeah.

00:56:52.19
Adz
Wow.

00:56:55.03
youcantcompthis
And the reason is, is because I think this trade is gonna be really, really good for him.

00:57:00.86
Adz
Okay.

00:57:00.89
youcantcompthis
I think the the Olympics are nothing but good news for this kid. I think he needs a better media manager, but other than that, Josh has been doing everything pretty much perfectly.

00:57:14.20
youcantcompthis
And I think also, too, he handled his, firing from OKC with a lot of grace. Like he didn't say a single bad word about nothing. He's just like, you know, down to business.

00:57:24.86
youcantcompthis
So his silver PSA 10 is trading at $105 and you can spend $105 on way worse things in the hobby at the moment.

00:57:28.56
Adz
Nice.

00:57:34.02
youcantcompthis
Pop on, that's $145. Yep. Really good purchase there.

00:57:37.03
Adz
Hmm.

00:57:38.31
youcantcompthis
Now, Chet Holgram also new to the list. So why is Chet Holgram on this list? Before we're talking about sorting the ages of players in the regular season into a list, if you filter that down to the playoffs, the list of people is

00:57:49.51
Adz
oh

00:57:55.49
youcantcompthis
It's obviously very, very different and the ages of people are different, but the young players who are good in that list stand out like a sore thumb, Paulo Banchero, Chet Holgrem.

00:58:06.33
youcantcompthis
I didn't realize how young he is. I think that's the best way to say it.

00:58:08.87
Adz
Okay.

00:58:09.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he's silver PSA 10.

00:58:10.89
Adz
Okay.

00:58:11.84
youcantcompthis
He's finally on card ladder now. Population on this is 532. It last traded at $240.

00:58:21.04
youcantcompthis
I think there's some legs in this. I think players like Chet Holgroom, and it might not be Chet who is the future of the league, but I think his skillset is where we're going. you know you You just have this kid who you roll out and you could play them in any position, ask them to do sort of anything and they'll be able to do it. you know i I'm getting higher and higher on this kid as it's going along. ah Staying at number seven, I've got Tyrese Maxey.

00:58:51.67
youcantcompthis
I'm not going to look up his pop report or anything, but basically he was last trading at $300 for a silver PSA 10 population. And that's 448. Um, do you know what? We probably should refresh this.

00:59:03.03
youcantcompthis
Shouldn't we? That would actually make it more interesting.

00:59:06.78
Adz
Refresh what?

00:59:07.67
youcantcompthis
Oh, cause I'm just reading out old stats, but I could just do it as I'm talking to you. Can I, it's not really that hard.

00:59:13.38
Adz
You could.

00:59:14.86
youcantcompthis
Is it population's 496 at last traded for 249.

00:59:17.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:19.84
youcantcompthis
So that means. It's actually gone down 50 bucks since we did it. So I'm going to actually call that even juicier.

00:59:25.37
Adz
Oh.

00:59:27.92
youcantcompthis
At number six, we got Paulo Banchero. And um why am I keeping him on my list? He did nothing in the playoffs to make me think that he should be moved down or moved off.

00:59:40.24
youcantcompthis
I actually think he probably should have got a lot more love in the playoffs. I think he showed up really, really well in the playoffs.

00:59:48.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:48.74
youcantcompthis
And I think people maybe underestimate how hard it is to take a young or a bad team or both and turn that into a winning team. I just think that he's still in this really weird spot of being ultra talented, but also being overlooked at the same time.

01:00:01.58
Adz
Okay.

01:00:04.31
youcantcompthis
So population on this is 680. It last traded for about 400 bucks. um Since we last spoke about that, that's actually way up. So he was trading at 289 when we spoke about him last.

01:00:13.60
Adz
Oh, wow.

01:00:17.74
youcantcompthis
So that's kind of fun. Jalen Brunson at number five, I've moved him up two spots. I don't really think I need to ah talk about this too much.

01:00:29.84
youcantcompthis
I think his playoff performance was just, you know, frankly, breathtaking. And then he resigns with the Knicks, takes his enormous discount, and then they pick up all his extra pieces, you know, to the point that we thought they'd have to move Randall out, but they don't need to because he took this you know enormous discount. So um in terms of the people's champion, in terms of you know, being a leader, you know, I love this so much. Population on this is 510. This last traded 325. I'm going to go out and this is going to be way up from we last spoke about it.

01:01:04.99
youcantcompthis
Oh, no, three thirty five. So that's about the same, isn't it, really? Yeah, it's about it's almost exactly the same. ah He had a massive spike, a couple of months to 440.

01:01:10.74
Adz
Okay.

01:01:13.63
youcantcompthis
So he's actually he's down a little bit. But at three hundred and thirty dollars, I've got no problems with that at all. All right. Now we're getting into the juicy stuff. So number four, I've got Anthony Edwards. I've moved him down one spot.

01:01:26.09
youcantcompthis
But it's nothing, it's like so much to be concerned about. It's more about Steph Curry and Steph Curry's at number three. I moved in but one spot. I think his performance at the Olympics has just been... I think he's united basketball fans in this really weird way. So Bill Simmons, who's the ultimate Celtics homer, wasn't talking about how Jason Tatum was benched. He's talking about how dynamic and how breathtaking Steph Curry's been.

01:01:50.35
Adz
Mmm.

01:01:52.72
youcantcompthis
And it's also really funny, I was thinking about this today, is that Jason Tatum is the current NBA champion, but the Olympic team is is being championed by LeBron James, Steph Curry.

01:01:59.25
Adz
Yep.

01:02:06.94
youcantcompthis
Kevin Durant, who guys aren't actually that successful in the and NBA anymore, but they have that Olympic skill set and the veteran now has to, you know, be the leaders of that team.

01:02:10.05
Adz
Yeah.

01:02:14.94
youcantcompthis
So that to me is a really interesting dynamic, but you sort of get the feeling that the next wave is going to be Jason Tatum, Devin Booker, Edwards, maybe Banchero is going to be putting their maybe Chet Holdon, you know, is going to be in there.

01:02:23.81
Adz
Edwards. Yeah.

01:02:29.72
youcantcompthis
Maybe Jalen Brunson, you know, that's where I'm where i'm going with this. Now this next one at number two, if I get a bit of hate on this, I'm totally fine with it. I don't really care. This is a little bit of a throwback to you and your segment that you did last week and you really got me thinking.

01:02:43.76
youcantcompthis
So last time at this spot, I had Jordan inserts. Now this week I've got Kobe inserts. And so

01:02:49.99
Adz
Oh.

01:02:50.81
youcantcompthis
The reason, so hear me out on this, the reason is it was very much about your show that you did last week. It really got me thinking and it got me thinking about value, because that's what we talk about with Jordan.

01:03:02.52
youcantcompthis
Where are the inserts that are value, right?

01:03:03.30
Adz
Yep.

01:03:04.68
youcantcompthis
So I started to look at Kobe Bryant inserts and I didn't do hours of research on this, but I found this 18-19 retro series from

01:03:11.22
Adz
Yep.

01:03:14.66
youcantcompthis
Donruss, BGS 9.5, 2 out of 99, the listed price was $349 from that. And yes, I definitely agree that that's pretty high, but a sold one on this that went to auction, 16 out of 49 from the retro series blue PSA 10 sold for $153.

01:03:35.49
youcantcompthis
Now you can't tell me when we fast forward into the future when Kobe's popping, like all the guys like you, you know, buying cards in the future.

01:03:41.69
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:44.13
youcantcompthis
I think that is one of the best cards ah in terms of purchase I've seen for a really long time.

01:03:50.00
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:50.04
youcantcompthis
Now I found another card, the Kobe Bryant Elite Series. Again, I'll put this up on the socials this week so everyone can have a look at these pictures.

01:03:55.77
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

01:03:57.09
youcantcompthis
The Hollow Masters numbered to 99. This sold raw for $648. The BGS of the same card, I think it was BGS 8. I didn't actually write that down, but I'm pretty sure it was 8.

01:04:08.42
youcantcompthis
That sold for $945. So I think if you are, you know, looking at those numbers.

01:04:14.53
Adz
Mmm.

01:04:15.91
youcantcompthis
Obviously, that's a a bit more special card than ah a retro series, but at the same time, um yeah, 16 out of 49. Whoever bought that, congratulations to you. And at number one, I'm staying with Nikoliyoki.

01:04:33.15
youcantcompthis
He was the Aussie killer. He really stretched the Americans basically to the limit.

01:04:36.07
Adz
Mm-hmm.

01:04:39.46
youcantcompthis
A number to 65 orange went to auction this week. It sold for 11,000 US dollars. Yes, I think that is high.

01:04:51.10
youcantcompthis
I'd almost go very high. But I think when you zoom out and you look at all the achievements that is done, i'm I'm still staying with this. I think there's some some value for this.

01:04:59.96
Adz
Value in Jokic.

01:05:01.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And look, I do think that is I don't think that's future prices. I'm very happy with that now, but I still think, you know, trying to get some sort of lower end numbered yoke stuff, even if it's at lower grades, so I just think it's going to be an absolute home run.

01:05:12.52
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:14.79
youcantcompthis
So, uh, would you like to critique my list? Adam, is there any feedback for me on my top 10?

01:05:20.05
Adz
um No, i not really. like I think it's very very interesting. It seems like it's a very easy list to infiltrate. um

01:05:27.81
youcantcompthis
Is that a compliment or an insult? Hang on a second. I don't, am I, should we, I offended here or not? I'm confused.

01:05:32.45
Adz
No, look it could be you could take that however you like. It's it's your list, but it is. It's it's good to see some change. and It really sucked to be one of those lists where it's like the same 10 players every check-in, so.

01:05:45.28
youcantcompthis
I, to be fair, I kind of deliberately moved some stuff around to make it interesting. Yeah, particularly at the bottom. So I had a few notable mentions there.

01:05:51.44
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:52.72
youcantcompthis
Dyson Daniels, Belal Kula Bali, Anthony Black, Grady Dick, Jet Howard, Keontae George, Hope Jones, Jalen Johnson.

01:05:56.86
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:58.51
youcantcompthis
But yeah, it's no fun just doing the same thing 10 times.

01:06:01.41
Adz
Yeah, exactly. And it's it's it's nice to to see some some other young players get a look-see.

01:06:02.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:06.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:09.37
Adz
Yeah, nice nice switch from the the Jordan to the Kobe inserts. I thought you were gonna say you're gonna do Shaq inserts.

01:06:12.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:14.98
Adz
And I'm like, oh no.

01:06:16.29
youcantcompthis
Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with collecting Shaq inserts. And that's, again, feedback from listening to your show. But I don't think he has the quite the broad appeal that Jordan, Kobe, Steph has.

01:06:30.16
youcantcompthis
I don't think he's quite into that upper echelon.

01:06:30.57
Adz
Yeah.

01:06:32.50
youcantcompthis
So, you know.

01:06:33.48
Adz
Yeah, definitely. um Yeah, definitely agree with that. And I think I think today's lot yesterday, today, however, you look at at the Olympic gold medal result, um as you were talking about Tatum and how LeBron and and co were sort of the flagship, like Tatum was nowhere to be seen.

01:06:51.61
Adz
I think I think Curry, I think this is more important to Curry's legacy than anything, it cements him

01:06:52.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:58.59
Adz
sort of his list of achievements. This added to Curry's ra like legacy, I guess.

01:07:04.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

01:07:05.26
Adz
um Yeah, that was <unk>s probably my Olympic highlight was waking up this morning and watching Steph Curry cook like he was in full chef mode and he he he puts put to sleep quite literally with lights out shooting, which he's always done.

01:07:13.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:18.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:23.17
Adz
But yeah, yeah.

01:07:24.67
youcantcompthis
Do you think he should have passed that last one where he shot over two French defenders and Katie and Lebron were both open?

01:07:31.59
Adz
He wouldn't, it wouldn't have been as classic a, it wouldn't have been the knockout punch it was if he hadn't done that.

01:07:38.20
youcantcompthis
Tell me some armchair, um, under 16s coaches weren't yelling at him to pass the ball that night though. Come on.

01:07:44.64
Adz
But it's, oh, you mean like the the the teenage coaches that are just like, well, yeah.

01:07:47.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:48.94
Adz
So you go down to domestic and you're like telling the child to pass the ball to learn team basketball and the kid just jacks it up over two defenders and then it goes in and he just looks back at the coach.

01:07:51.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

01:08:02.31
youcantcompthis
That's literally it, yeah.

01:08:03.01
Adz
Which is funny because he looked back at Steve Kerr and Steve Kerr's like, yeah, I know, I know, I know.

01:08:09.75
Adz
But yes, that was definitely the best um yeah night night pose by ah by by Steph Curry himself. It was amazing.

01:08:19.78
youcantcompthis
It's a cool move, yeah.

01:08:20.96
Adz
It was it was pretty pretty timely and who knows, maybe that'll be a new timeless moment. He's done it a couple of times though.

01:08:26.46
youcantcompthis
Well, there's the top instant cards that are coming out already with it.

01:08:30.31
Adz
It's gonna be so good.

01:08:31.62
youcantcompthis
Should we finish off with a question from Matthew Hull?

01:08:36.62
Adz
We should, and and um just just quickly with regards to Matthew Hull, he was watching on the YouTube live feed and and did have an Olympic comment, so dream team, then the redeemed team, then that absolute bludger calls it the Avengers, Avengers of what?

01:08:52.89
Adz
What an absolute expletive. Anyway, LeBron.

01:08:56.25
youcantcompthis
Who called it the Avengers? Oh, did he?

01:09:00.10
Adz
So we had we had the dream team, which was Jordan. We had the redeem team that was Kobe, which featured LeBron. And then LeBron's gone coining this team, the Avengers. and There's nothing to avenge.

01:09:13.18
Adz
Good point. Good point.

01:09:15.43
youcantcompthis
i I assume he's saying that they're superheroes, that someone is Iron Man, someone is

01:09:19.30
Adz
Yeah. Oh, there are meanish posters up there.

01:09:24.07
youcantcompthis
the Hulk or something like that.

01:09:24.80
Adz
Yeah.

01:09:25.69
youcantcompthis
Oh, God.

01:09:25.76
Adz
Yeah.

01:09:26.00
youcantcompthis
Anyway, let's let's move on.

01:09:26.97
Adz
LeBron coins himself as like Captain America, I think, in the image.

01:09:29.63
youcantcompthis
Oh, right.

01:09:30.47
Adz
Oh, he didn't, but it yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:30.87
youcantcompthis
So that's why.

01:09:34.09
youcantcompthis
Oh, because he was the captain, he got to hold the flag.

01:09:36.39
Adz
Got the clap and got the other flag.

01:09:38.91
youcantcompthis
Oh, God. OK, whatever. That's fine. Look, he's all the achievements he's had. He can call himself whatever he wants. He's earned that right, I think.

01:09:47.46
Adz
yes Yes, yes, he is turning 40s shortly.

01:09:47.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:09:52.39
youcantcompthis
Hi team, it's your boy, the original hobby regulator and Lulu discriminator. I thought that was you, Ed.

01:10:01.02
Adz
He might...

01:10:01.07
youcantcompthis
This isn't a question or a one post, but kind of is. Sorry, man, what we say?

01:10:05.23
Adz
No, no, no, no. I'll let ah Matthew be the original. It's fine.

01:10:09.90
youcantcompthis
I just want to say that sometimes is it's okay not to take the low ball, only paying 75% of comps, even though I don't have a card shop, nor am I flipping cards, folks. Sometimes holding out work, sometimes just saying no, I get stuffed in a nice hobby professional way is okay. Proof for me is I offered a card for ages to be sold below what it was worth.

01:10:31.23
youcantcompthis
people kept offering ridiculously low comps from a year previous were higher and the player has a chip now. I listed on eBay whilst i was trying to sell it in the groups and just today sold it for more than I asked. Even after eBay fees, I'll still walk out up. I had my inner Adam, Amy and Russell. A cards value is what a collector is willing to pay and that rings true today. So to all the players who are playing Stay humble and true to the card and what you think it is worth.

01:11:00.26
youcantcompthis
To all the haters, keep thinking Luca will save you. You'll be right, maybe. Peace and love, Matthew Hull. P.S. here is the card. It is a Jason Tatum.

01:11:11.34
youcantcompthis
Select two color patch with some stitching on it.

01:11:14.58
Adz
home

01:11:16.08
youcantcompthis
So you can almost argue it's three.

01:11:18.41
Adz
Mmhmm.

01:11:19.19
youcantcompthis
ah Game one, enclosed material, 10 out of 10. So selective swatches. Yeah.

01:11:26.23
Adz
It's a nice little card.

01:11:27.60
youcantcompthis
Interesting one. Look, I think that I think if you want to get a particular price for a card, you have to be more patient. If you want to sell it in an hour, you do have to be more at the mercy of people throwing you lowball offers.

01:11:45.13
Adz
Yeah, yeah, if it's time sensitive for sure.

01:11:45.89
youcantcompthis
um Yeah. And I think, can I be honest with you, I think that's why people do put in lowball offers or make 75% of comps offers because they think that if you want to sell, you'll take it because you need the cash to- today for something else.

01:12:00.42
Adz
Yeah.

01:12:02.06
youcantcompthis
So I think in this instance, you know, Maddie didn't need the money for something and he was, and he was, you know, quite particular about what he wanted for it.

01:12:08.35
Adz
Yep.

01:12:11.02
youcantcompthis
Look, I think that you do have to be a little bit careful because if you were holding cards from two years ago um and you're hoping to get what you paid for them back, you could be waiting another 10 years before it up cycles again.

01:12:27.26
Adz
True.

01:12:27.45
youcantcompthis
So that strategy will work out

01:12:32.89
youcantcompthis
sometimes, particularly if the comp that they're referring to is quite old and things have changed in that. Like I think this is a very particular instance.

01:12:42.14
Adz
Yeah.

01:12:42.23
youcantcompthis
So look, there's some cards that I've, I paid for, you know, I paid $200 for them. They might not be worth $50 now.

01:12:47.69
Adz
Hmm.

01:12:49.10
youcantcompthis
So what do you do with them? Do you sell them at a 75% loss or do you hold onto them in hope that, you you know, you will flip them and get that even if you break even back or, you know, 25% less.

01:12:59.28
Adz
Yeah. yeah i I have a tendency to think that that the undertone with with Matthew's little example here,

01:13:02.01
youcantcompthis
It's a tough one.

01:13:11.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:13:12.27
Adz
It's not necessarily about getting overs for it or getting what you want for it, but it's not settling for the low offer.

01:13:20.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

01:13:20.95
Adz
It's it's not being impulsive and going, I have to accept that. You're right, it's all time time and a place. There are people that are selling cards and it's time sensitive.

01:13:27.65
youcantcompthis
yeah It's yeah it's nuance, too. There's so many different things. Yeah. Look, I've probably taken the wrong perspective on this.

01:13:32.44
Adz
Correct.

01:13:33.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So keep going.

01:13:34.26
Adz
i i do And that's the thing, if it's not time sensitive and you've got time to

01:13:34.71
youcantcompthis
This is good. Yeah.

01:13:40.92
Adz
If time's on your side and you're not hurry to sell it, then then be patient.

01:13:43.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:13:46.42
Adz
Literally just be patient and and sell it when you're prepared to sell it. Don't, never feel pressured to sell to someone thinking you're not going to sell it if you don't.

01:13:52.92
youcantcompthis
Sure.

01:13:57.18
youcantcompthis
so

01:13:58.02
Adz
So it's that don't be pressured by by someone throwing a low ball, expecting that that's the only offer you're going to get. if you If you do exercise a little bit of patience, then maybe you'll be able to get something a little bit more favorable down the track.

01:14:13.26
youcantcompthis
Hmm. Yeah, that makes sense.

01:14:15.00
Adz
I mean, ah alternatively, you can collect Luca Dontage and be bitterly disappointed in a few years.

01:14:23.39
Adz
ah Sorry, you might be right, who knows?

01:14:23.53
youcantcompthis
Well.

01:14:26.05
Adz
So as Matthew said, could be could be you could be investing heaps into Luca and and not he might not be Zion 2.0, who knows?

01:14:37.75
youcantcompthis
I think that if.

01:14:38.26
Adz
i'm just I'm just being argumentative now.

01:14:40.40
youcantcompthis
So if no, just to take your point, though. If you went all in on Luca, I think you would be feeling better than going all in on Zion and or all in on Jar. I think if you went very deep on those last two guys, you would not be feeling fantastic about the hobby.

01:15:00.30
Adz
Yes, I think, yeah, you're very right.

01:15:04.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:15:05.62
Adz
You're very right.

01:15:07.53
youcantcompthis
I think, yeah, that would be quite difficult. and Anyway, let's finish the show on a slightly more positive note. We somehow went into a um ah very negative spin. ah What's been...

01:15:17.78
Adz
but low lowball Lowballers tend to do that to us.

01:15:23.84
youcantcompthis
All right. This is from Twitter post at sons are better and still the plus minus leader for team USA now through nine games. And the only play with a positive plus minus in every game is Devin Booker at plus 96. It should be clear to the world now how great of an all round basketball player he is. Now, when I read that, I'm not going to lie to you. I've never been the biggest Devin Booker fan.

01:15:50.37
youcantcompthis
And I've always felt that Devin Booker has been a little bit overcooked, if not overpriced.

01:15:55.39
Adz
Okay.

01:15:56.51
youcantcompthis
But, and again, I haven't watched a heap of Olympics, but what I have seen of him, he played very, very good basketball, to the point that I would think about buying some of his cards.

01:16:06.39
Adz
Very consistent basketball.

01:16:11.17
youcantcompthis
He is currently selling at $700.

01:16:15.43
youcantcompthis
Population on a PSA 10 is 226. So he's from 2015. So that is like three years before the crush.

01:16:23.68
Adz
See,

01:16:26.40
Adz
he yorkage Is Is Jokic 50?

01:16:30.52
youcantcompthis
Yes.

01:16:32.47
Adz
Okay.

01:16:34.68
youcantcompthis
If you look at him in one year, he's down 35%. If you look at him in two years, he's down 51%. Oh my God. He went up to $7,600 ad in pandemic.

01:16:49.33
Adz
I was gonna say, that actually doesn't surprise me. Every...

01:16:54.30
Adz
All of the bigger names through the pandemic, if they if they were big names then, and they're still big names now, it's normally 10X, roughly.

01:17:04.50
youcantcompthis
yeah He went up like seven times. He was trading about a thousand dollars before the pandemic.

01:17:08.18
Adz
Yeah.

01:17:08.58
youcantcompthis
Look, I actually think Booker has got some legs now.

01:17:13.51
Adz
At 700, you reckon Booker's legs?

01:17:15.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I reckon that's OK.

01:17:18.18
Adz
Okay, I've got him, I don't know what the buy-in point for Booker is for me.

01:17:21.26
youcantcompthis
I would never have said that 12 months ago. like This is a change for my mindset.

01:17:24.91
Adz
Hmm. Hmm. It's interesting how an Olympic performance can do that. But like, as far as, but I guess it becomes evident. Because ah if you're not, if you're not a Suns fan, I guess you don't get to see much a different Booker.

01:17:37.99
youcantcompthis
I wouldn't say I'm not a Suns fan. I just think that. I just don't think he was that well-rounded and that really took my attention. Like he was doing a lot of different things out there.

01:17:47.45
Adz
Hmm. Yep.

01:17:50.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah. so Yeah. So that's a good one to finish off at.

01:17:54.25
Adz
That's a really good one to finish on.

01:17:55.65
youcantcompthis
Fun thoughts.

01:17:58.85
Adz
I'm glad the Olympics is over.

01:18:01.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:18:01.78
Adz
um Not that I didn't enjoy it. I thought it was nice to watch a few games here and there. ah My predictions were way off. i Actually, it was closer than most. I i did have Serbia medley.

01:18:15.36
youcantcompthis
Jerkik was celebrating for sure. He was loving it.

01:18:19.90
Adz
He was very close to get to being in the gold medal game.

01:18:21.70
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:18:23.78
Adz
against Wembley. That would have been very interesting, I think. But yeah, it was it was it was a nice little tournament, but the end of the Olympics also signals that we are not far away from pre-season stuff happening, training camps, and that will mean it'll be it'll be blink and you miss it, and we will be at the start of a new and NBA season.

01:18:44.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's coming pretty consistently. I don't really feel I've had an NBA drought.

01:18:46.16
Adz
Yeah.

01:18:48.52
youcantcompthis
It's yeah, this content.

01:18:48.74
Adz
No. No.

01:18:50.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:18:51.08
Adz
It's nice.

01:18:51.69
youcantcompthis
All right. Thanks everyone.

01:18:52.59
Adz
Awesome.

01:18:53.45
youcantcompthis
Thanks ad.

01:18:54.60
Adz
Yeah, thanks. Welcome back.

01:18:56.49
youcantcompthis
Cheers.