Episode 158: Offseason Buying, Topps Now, Mosaic, Excessive Case Hits, CGC,

Episode 158: It might be the offseason, but there is more than enough Hobby news to keep us warm.
Kobe 1/1
Off season buying
Topps Now   and   Parody
Mosaic Basketball, Micro Case Hit 2/3 cases, Micro SCN, Micro Facebook,  stained glass, Glitter   
25 downtowns in one case, 2 dragons in one box
Jordan beam team
triple logoman 1/1
John stockton flawless
CC 1/1 
Lauri Markkanen extension 5 years 238 million
Stephon marbury
CGC special edition
Jru Holiday Hall of Fame?   
1/1 Gunn 

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00:00:11.26
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 158 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We are your host, Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:24.11
Adz
Russell, it's off season still.

00:00:26.77
youcantcompthis
It's the off-season, but there's so much happening.

00:00:29.24
Adz
It is, it it feels busy.

00:00:31.78
youcantcompthis
The NBA has got it perfectly timed now. It just becomes this 12-month-a-year machine where it just keeps coming.

00:00:38.43
Adz
Juggernaut, it's a juggernaut.

00:00:38.53
youcantcompthis
and then And in addition to that, the way that the schedule all got messed up because of COVID and the printing, there's a lot of releases still coming out. So mosaic is the one we're going to talk about this week.

00:00:48.80
Adz
Mmm.

00:00:50.76
youcantcompthis
It's just, it's just never ending at the moment. And something we're not going to talk about. It's is also happening is the big fanatics fest in America, because I didn't put it into the sheets.

00:00:59.72
Adz
Wow.

00:01:01.74
youcantcompthis
I'm like, it's very hard for us to cover it. We're on the other side of the world. There's so much content out there about it anyway.

00:01:08.09
Adz
Is this like, is this like Comic Con for fanatics?

00:01:12.31
youcantcompthis
Basically, it's their own version of, yeah.

00:01:13.07
Adz
Okay, it's their own version. Okay.

00:01:15.64
youcantcompthis
Did you see the Blaise brothers at the nightclub?

00:01:19.15
Adz
No, no, I've been off socials a little bit this this week.

00:01:22.84
youcantcompthis
They looked very excitable, perhaps that something had been consumed to make them so excited.

00:01:30.87
Adz
but Oh, on some uppers, something to something, that appearances, appearances, yeah.

00:01:33.51
youcantcompthis
but Potentially. ah Allegedly, I believe is the word. Appearances of, yeah.

00:01:39.15
Adz
Yeah. ah

00:01:40.71
youcantcompthis
All right, so we're going to do we're going to start the show with a pitch, actually, we're going to say thank you for everyone's support. Our gift to you has been this podcast.

00:01:50.71
Adz
Yeah.

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youcantcompthis
And if you could help us out by following. our social medias, one even if it's just one of them, if you could follow us on Instagram, we would really appreciate that.

00:02:02.64
Adz
You love that.

00:02:02.81
youcantcompthis
And if you already follow us on Instagram, can you please follow us on YouTube for two reasons, because each week we go live on YouTube, so you would get a notification when we go live, you can jump on, you can have a talk in the chat, but also too, our podcasts are also on YouTube now too, so that's something else.

00:02:22.44
Adz
Yeah, it's like a double double dip, isn't it?

00:02:22.72
youcantcompthis
If you would like to, yeah, if you'd like to access the the podcast, but if you could like one of our socials this week, we would really, really appreciate that.

00:02:24.60
Adz
You sort of... Yeah.

00:02:32.06
youcantcompthis
um To be honest, actually, whatever whatever you wanna do, you can like, subscribe, or whatever the slogan is,

00:02:32.59
Adz
It's really different to the usual YouTube one, because normally it's, isn't it like the video? Tick the bell. You can't...

00:02:42.22
Adz
I like you i like i like the way you handled that. That was very, very not generic. It was very, very much.

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youcantcompthis
Thanks. From the heart. id

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Adz
It is, it is.

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youcantcompthis
from the hunt

00:02:51.26
Adz
I mean, if they're if they they they're showing love, they can also jump onto their favorite podcast platform, be it Spotify, Apple Podcasts, um drop like leave leaving reviews actually helps a lot.

00:02:58.05
youcantcompthis
Whatever it is, exactly. every yeah Every bit helps us.

00:03:03.50
Adz
So yeah, helps get our name out there.

00:03:04.76
youcantcompthis
I think that's the best way to say it. yeah

00:03:09.16
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, now this is fresh news. This literally just ended tonight, actually. And Ad, I put this in there for you to be perfectly honest. This was a auction that ended today at Golden, so the King of Collectibles himself.

00:03:20.81
Adz
o

00:03:21.30
youcantcompthis
A Kobe Bryant, one of one, on-card autograph logoman.

00:03:28.69
youcantcompthis
from 2003, 2004, Upper Deck Ultimate Collection, it finished at $1.584 million. dollars Adam, how does this make you feel?

00:03:45.11
Adz
I want that card. I really want that card.

00:03:48.92
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, it's on your to-buy list, yeah.

00:03:50.54
Adz
It's a good card, isn't it? it's It's probably on my unobtainables list. Probably. is is probably ah Like, I think there's more than a probable.

00:04:01.12
youcantcompthis
I mean, you never know that small amount of crypto you bought could a thousand X.

00:04:02.28
Adz
Who knows?

00:04:05.12
Adz
Yeah, that's it. PSA 9.

00:04:07.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:04:09.12
Adz
It's a 9. So PSA 9, imagine what? B if it was a PSA 10.

00:04:13.93
youcantcompthis
I think for these big cards, 10, nine, eight, seven, six, even, you know, yeah, that's the yeah.

00:04:19.73
Adz
Authentic, that's all it needs to be. um Wow, $1.5 million, dollars Kobe Bryant 101, Logoman.

00:04:26.66
youcantcompthis
Is that high for you, low for you? What do you think about that?

00:04:29.48
Adz
I think that's... Hmm. Yeah, I think that's an appropriate number. I think 1.5 million makes sense for that kind of card. It's not a rookie card, but hell, it's a it is a hell of a card.

00:04:46.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:04:48.30
Adz
one of one patch. Yeah, it's like a that's

00:04:54.05
youcantcompthis
So I think for me, the low.

00:04:54.20
Adz
I can't I couldn't imagine ah owning that card.

00:04:55.63
youcantcompthis
I think for me, the low hanging fruit here is to say, you know, the hobbies dead. All right. So let's just throw that out there and get that over and done with.

00:05:02.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:03.55
youcantcompthis
And then I think the next thing is to then you start to think about other one of ones that have sold recently.

00:05:08.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:08.98
youcantcompthis
And, you know, comfort to that. So the one that's in my head at the moment is that when be black shimmer that sold for half a million dollars.

00:05:16.05
Adz
yeah

00:05:16.57
youcantcompthis
Is this three times the cut that that is? Or do you say, this is, this is actually, is it better value than that when be, do you know?

00:05:20.82
Adz
I would say yes.

00:05:25.37
youcantcompthis
So that's sort of where my head is at, at the moment.

00:05:26.43
Adz
Hmm.

00:05:29.57
youcantcompthis
And then obviously the other one at the moment, which we get, this will be actually the perfect segue. Let's just roll into this. Next is the tops now one of one, which is the LeBron, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant autograph, which yeah.

00:05:42.41
Adz
How good, how, how, it's smart by Topps, isn't it?

00:05:47.80
youcantcompthis
It's very, very smart.

00:05:48.71
Adz
Not NBA uniforms.

00:05:51.58
youcantcompthis
Yeah, well pointed out. ah Very good.

00:05:54.04
Adz
Mmm. Got them in their Team USA, which is not an NBA uniform.

00:06:00.78
youcantcompthis
Very clever. ah That that idea actually did not pick up on. So I think the The politicking or the behind the behindthe- scenes stuff on that is that two people have put large bounties on it.

00:06:12.15
youcantcompthis
So the first one was Jeff Wilson.

00:06:13.86
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:06:14.09
youcantcompthis
He put $100,000 bounty on it. He also offered to fly you out to his Atlanta headquarters first class and you get to do a tour with him.

00:06:22.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:22.93
youcantcompthis
He'll let you pick a box off the shelf and you get to open that up. Then he'll take you to one of the professional sports games in the, in his local. So it's either going to be, you know, basketball, hockey, or Is it NFL?

00:06:36.15
youcantcompthis
I'm not even too sure. It's in Atlanta.

00:06:37.91
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:38.25
youcantcompthis
And then Ken Golden came back and said he'll give you $150,000 cash plus free consignment. So then whatever money you get back from the card. So I don't know how I don't know how Golden gets money out of this unless he thinks it's going to be a million dollar card.

00:06:48.50
Adz
Wow. It'll be, it when it says zero consumption, some of the fees will be gone, but their cut will still remain, I i would assume.

00:07:01.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you, though, like, so obviously he thinks his cut is going to be at least 150K.

00:07:07.32
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:07:08.94
youcantcompthis
You would think he wants to break even or unless he just wants to stick it to Jeff and take a loss.

00:07:09.43
Adz
Oh, I did.

00:07:13.10
Adz
But it could be Colomate and B at this stage, like, you know what I mean?

00:07:15.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:07:16.26
Adz
It could have been, um...

00:07:19.45
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:07:20.93
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:07:22.42
youcantcompthis
So let's talk about, you were talking about smart before. So yes, let's definitely keep that what you said in mind. That is actually very smart. Now the way they released this is that they advertised it and they were selling them for a week online.

00:07:36.04
youcantcompthis
And how it worked was everybody who went on there could purchase a packet and then they adjust the print run to how many people buy packets.

00:07:40.78
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:07:46.05
youcantcompthis
So the total print run was 588,030. and then in those packets are then randomly inserted all the different parallels and then of course that one of one. So let's just dumb it down because there was different price scalings there, but let's just call it $9 US a packet. So then for $9 US a packet, you have the chance to hit this one of one and you have the chance to get the other parallels and autographs that are put into there. So I think in terms of marketing, I think in terms of transparency for how many cards is in there.

00:08:19.93
youcantcompthis
That's also, you know, we've talked about this with Panini.

00:08:20.08
Adz
Mm.

00:08:22.02
youcantcompthis
It's like we have no idea how much select is being printed out here. or Remember when they were doing Chronicles? How much Chronicles are they busting out between hobby, retail and blasters and, you know, all the rest and the hangars and all the rest in between?

00:08:34.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:34.63
youcantcompthis
You know, that's that's very transparent. I think collectors do enjoy that. And then also to just that whole tops now thing. I think that's something that people, Panini did do Panini instant, but I think it's pretty well agreed that they didn't do it very well.

00:08:46.44
Adz
They did, they did.

00:08:49.97
youcantcompthis
And this is just amazing, you know, and.

00:08:51.91
Adz
They didn't capitalize, they could've.

00:08:54.19
youcantcompthis
Absolutely. They could have doing stuff like this. Like this is amazing. So I think yes, fanatics are going to do some bad stuff, but obviously they're going to be doing some really good stuff too.

00:09:05.14
youcantcompthis
And this is, I think a really good example of that. So my position on fanatics is always going to be the same. I'm not passing judgment until I see what I see. And then I'm going to say whether it's good or bad.

00:09:14.82
Adz
Mm.

00:09:16.46
youcantcompthis
So, but this is a huge green tick for me. That's my perspective on this.

00:09:21.41
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like I like this.

00:09:23.53
youcantcompthis
Did.

00:09:26.16
youcantcompthis
Did you buy packets?

00:09:27.34
Adz
No, I wish I had've.

00:09:29.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah, okay. Yeah.

00:09:30.77
Adz
I would've liked to. I had a busy week, unfortunately.

00:09:37.06
youcantcompthis
No, look, it's amazing how quickly things can go past you. I'm the same with eBay auction. Sometimes I put bids down then before I realize that, you know, a week's gone past and I haven't checked back on it. I get that 100%.

00:09:48.23
Adz
Yeah, definitely.

00:09:48.47
youcantcompthis
Look, I, I didn't buy any on purpose because to be honest, I barely watched any Olympics at all. It's not something that I'm particularly heavily chasing or anything like that. I think if I, if I'm honestly telling the truth here, if I was going to go into it, it'd be for the gamble to get that one of one.

00:10:05.16
Adz
Yeah.

00:10:05.83
youcantcompthis
and then not sell it to Jeff Wilson, that would be my plan.

00:10:08.70
Adz
Literally. Literally. Buy a lot of tickets and then stitch them right up.

00:10:15.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's just like a lot of ticket purchases, isn't it? All righty. So what I really wanted to actually start the show with is this off-season buying. So let's let's talk about this.

00:10:27.95
Adz
Yeah.

00:10:28.68
youcantcompthis
So this whole off-season buying segment is based around the the premise that as we go into the off-season, the hobby starts to cycle down a little bit, prices start to come down a little bit, the heat will come off some things, and then it's a good time to actually go out and buy a big card.

00:10:39.16
Adz
oh Mmm. Mmm.

00:10:46.18
youcantcompthis
So think about your card buying list, and that's the second part of this too. something that this is going back to the old old school days. but This is from card school when Neb and Shane were doing their their podcast.

00:10:57.80
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:11:00.91
youcantcompthis
And I think this was Neb's baby actually. Sit down and write a list out of the cards that you actually want. Put that list away, try your best to stick to it so you're not making those impulsive purchases of cards that are vending machine or buying into breaks, you know, ten dollars, twenty dollars there, you know, make a list and, you know, and curate it, add to it, take things off it, you know, increase the list up and down, all that type of stuff.

00:11:25.56
Adz
oh Yeah.

00:11:27.15
youcantcompthis
So. Yeah, I think this is definitely a good time to it. But one thing that has definitely come to my mind, it doesn't always mean that it is the best time to to buy that card. So and this is probably where my thought process has changed a little bit. Like I definitely used to wait for the end of the year, whereas now I kind of have this like little kitty of money that you know I've been saving up and I just have it ready to go now because it's really funny how things in the hobby do happen now.

00:11:55.95
youcantcompthis
And I don't think waiting to the end of the year is particularly a home run strategy all the time. So case in point for me, at the moment in my check in my checklist or in my buy list, as a joke, I've got Nikoleo kick one, two and three.

00:12:00.84
Adz
Yeah, agreed.

00:12:11.34
youcantcompthis
But actually he's had a fantastic Olympics. And if anything, he hasn't particularly gone down, he might have actually gone up a smidge. Or at worst case, he's staying the same.

00:12:21.14
Adz
Yeah. Mm.

00:12:23.24
youcantcompthis
So, you know, the thing that I was hoping for, I was hoping he would go down 20% or maybe I'll get lucky and get a 25% discount on, you know, a really nice Yoki card.

00:12:30.58
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:33.68
youcantcompthis
But actually I feel like that's not really how the markets played out for me. So I'm sure there's other examples too. I haven't actually comped this out, but I'm going to say if you're buying Steph Curry at the moment, I think that that will be difficult.

00:12:47.24
youcantcompthis
I think,

00:12:47.36
Adz
Yeah, well that's cooked me, hasn't it?

00:12:49.34
youcantcompthis
after the after the way that he played at the olympics like Again, I didn't even sit down and watch heaps of Olympics, but geez, I saw the highlights of it. And, you know, I saw the condensed games of, you know, what he did.

00:13:00.90
youcantcompthis
It was breathtaking. You know, so I think that will be the same sort of case there. And, and dare I say, LeBron's going to be the same too, man. So the really, this is definitely segueing a little bit here, but this is something we should look into is Kevin Durant, you know, has his prices moved in a positive way after having such a fantastic Olympics and shutting Jason Tatum out.

00:13:08.73
Adz
Mm.

00:13:20.31
Adz
Oh, look, look, it's maybe, maybe not. Oh, there was a thing on the the social media today. I saw it and it's the, the,

00:13:35.44
Adz
The Evans, E-V-I-N-S. So Devin Booker and Kevin Durant.

00:13:41.82
youcantcompthis
Oh, okay.

00:13:42.50
Adz
Versus the Jays, Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

00:13:42.58
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:13:46.79
Adz
It's the Jays and the Evans. That's where the rivalry is.

00:13:50.50
youcantcompthis
I was going to say, people have a lot of time in their hands, don't they?

00:13:50.98
Adz
Slow news day, that's all I can say.

00:13:55.70
Adz
I was i was thinking back to my stocks and it's like J-A-Y stocks. It's Boston, investing in the Jays.

00:14:05.65
Adz
The Evans.

00:14:06.61
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

00:14:06.75
Adz
Vins? The Vins.

00:14:07.52
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:14:08.10
Adz
Call them the Vins.

00:14:09.71
youcantcompthis
So let's segue here for two seconds.

00:14:11.64
Adz
Oh, wait.

00:14:12.42
youcantcompthis
This is probably...

00:14:13.27
Adz
We're out of off-season buying and we're going to Kevin Durant, are we?

00:14:16.24
youcantcompthis
No, no, we're coming back to that. We're coming back to that.

00:14:18.33
Adz
Okay.

00:14:19.75
youcantcompthis
So this is the 2007 TOPS Kevin Durant PSA 10 with a black border.

00:14:19.86
Adz
Where are we segwaying?

00:14:25.19
youcantcompthis
So look, there's other examples you can look at, but I've just pulled this one up really quickly in the last three months. That's actually up a lot. That's up 74%. So a very small sample size. And obviously that's only one card, but that actually does fit into the the ah idea in my head that he's on the upwards.

00:14:42.18
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:42.81
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, Adam, do you want to share your list with us some cards that you have got?

00:14:48.10
Adz
Some cards that I've got.

00:14:49.75
youcantcompthis
that you'd like to purchase that's on your list.

00:14:49.86
Adz
Well, yeah, I had a Steph Curry Kaboom.

00:14:51.55
youcantcompthis
I mean, yeah.

00:14:55.38
youcantcompthis
Great hat.

00:14:56.75
Adz
But um ah it's there's definitely...

00:14:58.02
youcantcompthis
How's that going for the stiff curry hunt at the moment?

00:15:00.47
Adz
theyre did They're tracking in the wrong direction.

00:15:02.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:03.98
Adz
I also have Steph Curry Rookie Card on my list.

00:15:07.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:07.46
Adz
That is also tracking in the wrong direction.

00:15:07.61
youcantcompthis
you Yeah.

00:15:10.78
Adz
um Yeah, it's there's a couple little Randalls that i've I've sort of, um not um no mean there's not even worth linking, but there's a couple of like rainbow chases that I'm just slowly working at ah with Randall.

00:15:22.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:24.17
Adz
And there's not much else for me. I wanted to, Steph Curry was my big focus this off season. And thanks, Olympic Steph Curry.

00:15:30.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:36.07
Adz
You've ruined my off season.

00:15:37.31
youcantcompthis
You've ruined Adam's offseason. Yeah, well done.

00:15:39.42
Adz
Um, yeah, look, I'm, I'm actually after a segment you did a little while back, I've been looking at different parallels. So just sort of looking at parallels and and different players that I want.

00:15:47.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah. cool.

00:15:50.74
Adz
So the hunt, the hunt for my Johnny Kilroy and, um, is still continuing as well, which Joe and I talked about.

00:15:50.78
youcantcompthis
Great.

00:15:58.99
Adz
Yeah, that's, that's, I want to PSA 10 in that. So say a lot of nines.

00:16:03.75
youcantcompthis
I feel like you could, you could do a nice little social media post about that. ah

00:16:07.91
Adz
Yeah. looking to buy.

00:16:11.39
youcantcompthis
We had a few listener responses to this. So Sean Alaway, thank you very much.

00:16:14.80
Adz
Mm.

00:16:15.83
youcantcompthis
Trying to snatch up an Eamon Thompson rookie card to add to my send to PSA one day pile. Also case hits, cabooms, slates, they're going to look good on the shelf.

00:16:26.70
youcantcompthis
And there's another one we can add to that list, the micro mosaic, which we're going to froth over later on in the show, Sean.

00:16:32.04
Adz
Mm, this is true.

00:16:32.14
youcantcompthis
So definitely check that out if you haven't done so already. Brad Van, excuse my pronunciation, Delft. The hunt is always on for my 2015-16 JJ Redick Prism Rainbow and a JJ downtown. Only ever seen one up for sale and was sniped on it.

00:16:51.73
Adz
Oh, the Reddick was in the, ah I think that was in the 2000, that was in um the studio release.

00:16:56.84
youcantcompthis
Your memory is fantastic because actually Brad put a picture in the comment inside of that 2016 pinini studio downtown PSA 10 in a Clippers uniform.

00:17:02.78
Adz
Ah, there it is.

00:17:08.65
Adz
Ow, I remember that, because that's the same release that um the Kobe was in.

00:17:14.11
youcantcompthis
What a funny person to put into an insert set.

00:17:17.51
Adz
JJ Reddick.

00:17:18.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah, particularly a case hit insert set. That's a very,

00:17:23.38
Adz
Very good, yeah.

00:17:24.17
youcantcompthis
Anyway, but great for if you're a JJ collector because.

00:17:27.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:17:31.25
Adz
we've got Next we've got Andy Pretania. Still hunting for a first time off the line gold wave to finish my set and the player is AO.

00:17:38.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:17:44.64
Adz
Nice little patch there, the number to three. That's gonna be a hell of a chase.

00:17:49.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think if you're just chasing that particular card, I think that's one thing to itself. If you're buying AO at the moment, I was pretty high on him last year, but I think the moves that the Bulls have made this offseason, it's going to make it a little bit difficult for him to get on the court.

00:18:09.93
youcantcompthis
You never know, but I just, yeah.

00:18:11.00
Adz
Mmm, but they have a history of injuries so you never know True

00:18:13.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'm just sort of cooling off on him a little bit from probably where I was in the last 12 months. But anyway, look, let's see how it goes this year, because if he does have a big developmental jump, I think he's still got a bit of potential there. Matthew Hull, I want cabooms and slates. Yeah, that's

00:18:34.90
youcantcompthis
As stupid as that sounds, that's also very simple and it's the right thing to say, isn't it? You know, if they're coming down in price in the off season, now snatch up these things that are, you know, well priced and I'm only chasing rookies.

00:18:41.18
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Steph Curry ones aren't going down. Just gonna say Steph Curry ones not going down.

00:18:47.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Matthew, that's a good answer, mate. Honestly. Yeah.

00:18:52.88
Adz
And I'm only chasing rookies now.

00:18:55.39
youcantcompthis
Yep. Great. You do get to a point in your collecting where you're like, look, I've got enough of this, all this other extra stuff. This will do now. Yeah.

00:19:05.28
Adz
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

00:19:08.52
Adz
Andrew Dean, have been hunting this particular non-numbered card, is it even out there?

00:19:15.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

00:19:16.68
Adz
What is...

00:19:16.86
youcantcompthis
You're a hardcore collector when you're chasing a certified freshman fabric, aren't you?

00:19:21.70
Adz
Freshman Fabric, Zeke Naji.

00:19:23.01
youcantcompthis
probably not even game worn or event worn and a sticker auto. Like that's when you're really deep down the rabbit hole, Andrew.

00:19:30.71
Adz
Just wants it.

00:19:30.88
youcantcompthis
So good luck with your chase, man.

00:19:34.06
Adz
Very specific.

00:19:34.07
youcantcompthis
ah leave yeah Levi the Kaboom Keontae George. Yeah. So this is a funny one for me. I look, obviously I love Kaboom's.

00:19:45.80
youcantcompthis
The only thing is, I wonder if Keontae George in 12 months is actually going to be lower. with that sort of, you know, rookie cycle of, you know, the next sort of batch comes through and I don't know what's going to happen in Utah next year.

00:19:53.08
Adz
o

00:20:00.23
youcantcompthis
I don't think they're going to try and win again.

00:20:02.74
Adz
Mmm, they just signed patty mills

00:20:03.89
youcantcompthis
I think, yeah, but I think they're going to be in the Cooper flag sweepstakes.

00:20:07.28
Adz
They don't know what that makes that relevant in any way shape.

00:20:11.64
youcantcompthis
I don't think they're going to be a real,

00:20:13.95
Adz
I think you're right.

00:20:15.14
youcantcompthis
We can talk about this a little bit, the jazz a bit more, because we're going to talk about Laurie Marketon later in the show. And actually, there was a really, really good podcast that did like a deep dive into it.

00:20:20.48
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:24.53
youcantcompthis
It was a ESPN or a Ringer podcast. I can find this and put onto socials later on, but they literally spoke about this for 40 minutes about all the pros and cons of like what's going to happen in Utah this year.

00:20:29.78
Adz
Mm.

00:20:35.49
youcantcompthis
Like if you're a basketball nerd, it was just fantastic. ah So my list is Nikole Jokic. He's definitely my one, two and three.

00:20:44.21
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:44.35
youcantcompthis
I've pretty much decided now that in terms of the Prism PSA 10s are just out of my, for his rookie stuff, are just out of my price range. So i'm going to go I'm going to go for a numbered nine, but actually even that I'm having a bit of difficulties with.

00:20:52.94
Adz
That's fair.

00:20:58.18
youcantcompthis
So now I'm starting to think maybe I might go to an eight and then put that away and then see if I can jump up to a nine later on.

00:21:01.35
Adz
Oh, okay. Do you ever think about BGS rather than?

00:21:07.43
youcantcompthis
The only time I'd do BGS would be to cross it over, but there's just so much risk with doing that.

00:21:11.73
Adz
That's true.

00:21:13.14
youcantcompthis
You know what I mean? And so I'm just like.

00:21:13.90
Adz
If you can get a 9.5 at a 9 price, then you might be able to cross it up to a 10. Sorry, just...

00:21:20.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah, or you could get your pants pulled down and they'll take it to an eight. You know what I mean? It's just like, and that would, yeah, that would be just me.

00:21:25.34
Adz
That's fair, that's fair, that's fair.

00:21:27.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:21:27.66
Adz
Gotta risk it for the biscuit, I guess, but yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.

00:21:29.33
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's true. So the next thing on my chase list is the 75th anniversary insert set that happened. It's now two seasons ago, isn't it really?

00:21:38.22
Adz
Oh, a couple of years ago, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:39.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So there's 99 cards in that set. I have 92 of them. I just need seven more to go.

00:21:44.55
Adz
Wow.

00:21:45.57
youcantcompthis
So I'm pretty happy about that. Basically what I just, every week, I've just sort of gone onto CompC or onto eBay and just picked up a couple here and there. So I've just been chipping away at it.

00:21:52.13
Adz
And is that the base?

00:21:53.38
youcantcompthis
So while they're all

00:21:53.71
Adz
Is it the base?

00:21:57.03
youcantcompthis
prisms or they're all hollows basically.

00:21:57.08
Adz
Different.

00:21:58.83
youcantcompthis
I don't believe there's any numbered anything like that. Yeah. So, but basically I've been picking them up, even the like the Lebronze and stuff like that, I've been getting them for, you know, $10 each.

00:22:01.90
Adz
Okay.

00:22:09.15
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Okay.

00:22:10.43
youcantcompthis
Look, the vast majority of them, I picked them up Comsea for, you know, one or $2. So it hasn't been a crazy expensive chase, but it's just the the last five of them.

00:22:15.07
Adz
Okay, I have a couple of those.

00:22:19.06
youcantcompthis
And really interesting, it's all the mosaic ones, which were not in the mosaic set. They were in select or something. So anyway,

00:22:26.60
Adz
Okay.

00:22:26.66
youcantcompthis
I'll get there eventually. Herb Jones is still on my on my list. I'm really enjoying picking him up for cheap. Now the micro mosaic, I'm going to hold my thoughts on that and until later on because we're going to talk about that a little bit.

00:22:38.63
Adz
as You mentioned that twice.

00:22:39.31
youcantcompthis
wendy

00:22:39.83
Adz
This sounds exciting.

00:22:41.22
youcantcompthis
Wembley is now on my checklist and then I'm actually going to steal from Matthew Hull here.

00:22:41.26
Adz
Whenby.

00:22:45.68
youcantcompthis
I did have it on my own list, but I'm just going to acknowledge his thing is the cabooms and the downtowns.

00:22:50.74
Adz
Yep.

00:22:50.85
youcantcompthis
I've already got a downtown. I will definitely upgrade that, but I do not actually have a kaboom in my own PC. So that's something else too.

00:22:57.77
Adz
I would like Walker Booms.

00:22:59.88
youcantcompthis
You want more?

00:23:00.86
Adz
I have a taste, I want more.

00:23:01.18
youcantcompthis
Okay. Yeah.

00:23:03.60
Adz
Yep, yep.

00:23:03.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Right, we should go to our first commercial breakout and we should have a break.

00:23:07.46
Adz
We should, we should.

00:23:08.91
youcantcompthis
We'll have some music if you're listening to the radio show on Central Coast Radio and we will be back.

00:23:12.54
Adz
Mm.

00:23:16.58
youcantcompthis
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00:23:38.98
youcantcompthis
He's got storage, he's got hobby boxes, he's got memorabilia, he's got singles, which takes us to our next part of what US Sports Cards Australia are working on at the moment is the Comm C equivalent, but in Australia. So basically you give your cards to Ross, he will put them onto the website. You can then purchase them at the end of the month. He will send you out money for the cards that you've sold. It's really as simple as that.

00:24:05.66
youcantcompthis
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00:24:24.35
youcantcompthis
And we are but back, Adam. How are you feeling? Are you feeling refreshed?

00:24:29.42
Adz
um I'm very refreshed, very refreshed.

00:24:31.43
youcantcompthis
Great. What are you drinking? I should ask you that.

00:24:35.20
Adz
I've got i've got water, just just water. Good old fashioned H2O, very refreshing.

00:24:37.87
youcantcompthis
That is refreshing. Yeah. Yeah. H2O. Yeah. Good.

00:24:40.53
Adz
yeah

00:24:41.74
youcantcompthis
Now we should shout out to Central Coast Radio.

00:24:44.26
Adz
We should, we should.

00:24:47.41
youcantcompthis
centralcoastradio.com 24 hours a day, music and radio shows. They've done a fantastic job of curating local talent and local shows, including us, Tuesday, 11 p.m.

00:24:58.13
Adz
Yes.

00:24:59.83
youcantcompthis
to 1 a.m., Thursdays, 10 a.m. to noon and Saturday, 3.15 a.m. to 5.15 a.m., around three time slots, Adam.

00:25:10.57
Adz
Nice.

00:25:10.84
youcantcompthis
Now, We are deliberately late night and very early mornings. We're hoping to break into the US market. So that's why we haven't been banished to the corner ad. Don't worry about that.

00:25:20.53
Adz
No, no, no, no. Never crossed my mind.

00:25:21.79
youcantcompthis
I actually asked for that on purpose. Yeah.

00:25:23.61
Adz
we've we've We've requested it specifically.

00:25:26.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:25:27.66
Adz
like very few people have yeah

00:25:29.79
youcantcompthis
yeah Alrighty, Mosaic basketball is out. I i love Mosaic, so we're going to talk about it too bad if you don't like it, Ad. This is the product that got me back into the hobby, so it has a very special sort of place into my heart.

00:25:44.85
youcantcompthis
If you want a little bit of history on Mosaic, originally it was a parallel that was in prison, and then they split it off into its own product.

00:25:53.85
Adz
like very few people have, but...

00:25:54.82
youcantcompthis
And when it first came out, it was like a hybrid of ah prism choice, but it had about 30 cards in the box and every card was a parallel.

00:26:05.05
youcantcompthis
So there was no base in it at all.

00:26:05.71
Adz
Hmm.

00:26:07.65
youcantcompthis
And then after 18, 19, they, they blew it out. They increased the checklist. Of course they did, you know, everything that happened sort of post COVID, then they added retail to it.

00:26:16.27
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:18.09
youcantcompthis
And so it sort of became this different thing. But now Mosaic has sort of evolved again, like this year actually, I really like it. So The pros about Mosaic is that it's the uniform in the picture.

00:26:30.58
youcantcompthis
So it's almost like season two where they've got everything, all the players are in their right uniforms and and that.

00:26:35.82
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:37.15
youcantcompthis
And then so there's a City Edition insert set in this one. And actually Joe Denison was talking about this on his on his break and he pointed out, well, they have a City Edition card in hoops, but

00:26:48.67
Adz
Hmm.

00:26:49.74
youcantcompthis
the differential with this is that it's about focusing on the jersey. So there's the City Edition jerseys, and that if you if you enjoy looking at the jerseys and stuff like that, actually this product will appeal to you because it has them in all their different jerseys.

00:26:55.01
Adz
Yep.

00:26:59.47
Adz
Hmm.

00:27:03.28
youcantcompthis
So if you look at the cards for Prism and Mosaic, actually they they're all in different Jersey. So, you know, sometimes we criticize panini when they're not making enough effort for the photographs and all that type of stuff.

00:27:10.71
Adz
Oh.

00:27:15.49
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:16.02
youcantcompthis
Actually, in this particular set, they go to a lot of effort to get the pictures different. So that's sort of something that makes it stand out a little bit. And then the traditional case hit in this was the stained glass.

00:27:27.88
youcantcompthis
And that did pretty well in terms of the after sales. But then last year they they changed it up and they made it super weird in that They still had that, but then they made the razzle dazzle, the case hit.

00:27:40.07
youcantcompthis
So if you look at the pure population on these cards, actually there's more stained glass in last year's, but the sales are still much better on the stained glass.

00:27:51.69
youcantcompthis
Like people didn't sort of connect that sort of together.

00:27:52.26
Adz
Mm.

00:27:55.61
youcantcompthis
But now this year they've made a true case hit and it's called the micro mosaic. So if you just check out that link that we've put up, it says micro Facebook ad.

00:28:07.24
Adz
Yeah, I've got it.

00:28:08.47
youcantcompthis
That'll take you this little link that I put together tonight. So that ah obviously is the Eamonn Thompson. I really, I really like this insert.

00:28:13.80
Adz
Oh, wait.

00:28:16.40
youcantcompthis
What's, yeah, it's an insert.

00:28:17.20
Adz
Oh, micro Facebook, there we go.

00:28:17.69
youcantcompthis
We we can call it that.

00:28:18.33
Adz
Yeah, yeah. yeah

00:28:20.55
youcantcompthis
But this is what to me is a little bit interesting is because I've watched three cases of this and only two came out. So when we talk about, you know, SSPs and I feel like that's something that's thrown around, you know, quite a lot like this is a true SSP.

00:28:28.30
Adz
Oh, wow.

00:28:36.75
youcantcompthis
So, for example, let's compare this to Crown Rail Kaboom, which is the one that I'd probably say that's one of the most chased SSPs that's out there. That that's that's in a hobby and there's obviously the base and then they've got the number than the one of one.

00:28:45.40
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Kaboomza.

00:28:51.77
Adz
Sure.

00:28:52.20
youcantcompthis
But now there's like an international set of crown that also has kaboom's in it too. So I almost feel that the kaboom's have now been diluted out a little bit. And probably that's why I'm pretty high on this because The impression I get on this is people aren't going to be chasing these too hard.

00:29:10.14
youcantcompthis
But in terms of the population on these, I think it's going to be quite low.

00:29:12.66
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:13.54
youcantcompthis
So we we need some time to see how this is going to play out yet. So this is just what I'm deducing my head at the moment. But. And we can talk to Ryan and we can get some insights from Ryan from Gemrate on this in the future. But I would say keep it, you know, a bit of and a sneaky eye on these, you know, put some into your eBay queues, you know, soft bid on them, just sort of see where they end up and just sort of follow these along a little bit. And particularly in, say, four or five months time, you know, when all the heat comes off it and, you know, and the next product comes out, I think these are the type of cards that will be quite nice, I think, long term to hold on to. so

00:29:50.90
Adz
yeah

00:29:51.19
youcantcompthis
And this is a very, again, Russell centric thing to say, but they've also changed up the checklist a little bit.

00:29:54.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:56.23
youcantcompthis
They've got some nice veterans in there and Darren Fox is in this too. So he's not traditionally in these super short print checklists. So I'm pretty, I'm pretty excited about this and I will.

00:30:05.61
Adz
Yeah. That he's actually in there.

00:30:09.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'll definitely eventually pick one up, but ah I'm still going to try and focus on my yo-kick and then I'm going to get around to the, the micro. So that's why I had that in my checklist obviously for, you know, Darren Fox.

00:30:17.60
Adz
Mmm.

00:30:19.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Uh, in terms of comps on these and how many have sold and all that type of stuff. Look, there's not a lot of data out there, but the Eamonn Thompson sold for 505 US.

00:30:32.33
youcantcompthis
There's a jam around that that's sold for 540.

00:30:32.41
Adz
Geez.

00:30:35.53
youcantcompthis
I mean, that makes sense. He's a, you know, he's a big dog in the league.

00:30:39.32
Adz
Curry sold for 6.98.

00:30:39.60
youcantcompthis
The Deron Yeah, so that's interesting, right? Fox sold for 285 and the Chet Holgren for 230. So, you know, it's look, it's obviously it's it's early day still.

00:30:47.56
Adz
Wow.

00:30:50.30
Adz
Okay.

00:30:51.31
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:30:51.99
Adz
Yeah. 4.30 on the county. George, okay.

00:30:55.92
youcantcompthis
So I think some of these prices will come down a little bit, ah you know, give it a little bit of time.

00:30:58.99
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:00.55
youcantcompthis
But, you know, that's that's very healthy sales, I think for.

00:31:04.04
Adz
There's another, yeah, I was gonna say, there's another Fox sale for 187 as well.

00:31:07.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

00:31:09.97
Adz
So if you're okay, it's an interesting there's definitely an interesting insert.

00:31:11.22
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:15.34
Adz
I like it.

00:31:17.55
youcantcompthis
I put a post up on Sports Cuts Nuts and shout out to the boys at Sports Cuts Nuts since you are the king of carb related podcast content. And look, I will admit I'm not listening to the content as much as I used to because I don't want to be too derivative, but I had to unfortunately do a lot of driving last week.

00:31:34.90
youcantcompthis
So I listened to two of their shows. They did a really good job covering the CT scanner stuff.

00:31:37.16
Adz
nice

00:31:40.69
youcantcompthis
We didn't get a lot of input here, but we did get, uh, carnage cards, sharing some, some Fox cards with us. Wade Anthony getting a heat triple J is a must sick PC card.

00:31:52.24
youcantcompthis
Yep. Definitely Wade. It's a great PC cards and Matthew Hull, 100%. These are gorgeous cards.

00:31:56.22
Adz
Nice.

00:31:56.82
youcantcompthis
So yeah, I think Panini, this is an absolute home run ad where are you at with, with mosaic this year?

00:31:57.79
Adz
Hmm.

00:32:04.14
Adz
Again, I'm not normally the highest on Mosaic, but I tell you what, i do I do like the design, and I do like some of these inserts.

00:32:08.03
youcantcompthis
Yep. That's fair enough. Yeah.

00:32:11.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:13.19
Adz
like this This is a very pretty card.

00:32:15.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right. So I think all of it is not beautiful. In fact, I'll go to say some of it's ugly. I think the base is ugly.

00:32:21.32
Adz
Mmm.

00:32:22.14
youcantcompthis
And I would also even go out on a limb and say like, the silvers are ugly, but the the inserts that are done in Mosaic are actually really good. So

00:32:30.58
Adz
Mmm.

00:32:32.09
youcantcompthis
stained glass, the Wembley sold for 2,200, the Trae Young sold for 50 bucks. Actually, I quite like that. I like those different price points that you can jump in at and still get a bit of a taste of everything.

00:32:45.25
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed.

00:32:46.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Are you buying any of this stuff?

00:32:47.22
Adz
Agree completely.

00:32:51.62
Adz
I'm looking at it. It might be as far as an SSP. I mean, if it's the new Kaboom, you're getting it on the ground floor, right? But it's not. To me, it's not quite the new Kaboom.

00:33:00.97
youcantcompthis
No, no, i I don't think it is. I think it's more something just to keep your eye on in the background and in five or six months, let's just go back and check the ah pops on these and just say, look, maybe this is actually an and angle, you know, something to have a look at.

00:33:07.72
Adz
Mmm. Yeah.

00:33:16.44
youcantcompthis
But who who knows the true print runs on these with Panini man?

00:33:17.01
Adz
Options for, yeah, yeah.

00:33:21.60
youcantcompthis
They could be hundreds each. Like you just don't know.

00:33:23.72
Adz
That's true, that's true.

00:33:24.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:33:29.00
youcantcompthis
Now, I do want to talk about this one more card and then we'll we go and talk about something else. ad so

00:33:35.91
youcantcompthis
They've done a good job with the mosaic prints, and they've also done a good job with these um glitters that they've put in. Now, the person that advertised these is Case Hit SSP, but I think for me, the the micro is the true Case Hit on these, and these these are just short prints.

00:33:53.03
youcantcompthis
I don't think you can actually truly call them an SSP, a super short print, but they're really nice.

00:33:57.55
Adz
Yeah.

00:33:58.39
youcantcompthis
They are really nice in hand.

00:34:01.92
Adz
Whoo.

00:34:02.05
youcantcompthis
ah In terms of comps, 23-24 mosaic glitter, Brandon Miller sold for $223. I'm actually really surprised about that because the last couple of years I've been picking these up just veteran ones, even for $5 or $10 these have been selling for.

00:34:15.30
Adz
Yeah.

00:34:18.80
youcantcompthis
so The fact that now they're sort of picking up a little bit more heat, you know, it's a really good thing because I think the last couple of years, you know, go back and check them out if you can pick them up for cheap.

00:34:28.53
Adz
oh

00:34:29.81
youcantcompthis
Actually, I think they're good pickups. The population is quite low.

00:34:35.25
youcantcompthis
um The other high point of Mosaic 2 is that they do inserts and they do crazy ones. They sort of just, you know, throw mud at the wall and see what sticks.

00:34:44.15
Adz
Mmm Yep Ah, the court had the custom court

00:34:45.08
youcantcompthis
One they've done this year is the in-season tournament. So the highlight of these cards is the artwork because remember for the in-season tournament, that's right. Yeah. So on this one here, it's just basically like a picture of the court, let you look at all the graphics on that.

00:34:57.32
youcantcompthis
And then they overlay a picture of like Nicola Jokic or Brandon Podozemski. So yeah, that's kind of,

00:35:02.88
Adz
No, Steph Curry over the, yeah, okay.

00:35:05.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's kind of cool. They've done a good job on that.

00:35:07.91
Adz
Nice. Okay.

00:35:09.85
youcantcompthis
All right. Why don't we take a break because we went a little bit long in our first break. That'll even us out and we'll come back and we'll talk some more.

00:35:16.21
Adz
Why not? We'll dive deeper.

00:35:32.25
youcantcompthis
All righty, we are back. Let's talk some hobby hangout. Adam, where are you going to be on the 17th of November?

00:35:39.48
Adz
Hobby Hangout.

00:35:43.19
Adz
I think I'm gonna be at the Hobby Hangout.

00:35:45.39
youcantcompthis
Good answer, my friend. Well done.

00:35:47.77
Adz
It's a wild guess, but an educat but an educated wild guess.

00:35:52.69
youcantcompthis
Melbourne Hobby Hangout is the 17th of November, so please guys, pick up your tickets.

00:35:57.66
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:35:58.80
youcantcompthis
You can go to the hobbyhangout.com.au. It'll direct you to the Oztix page where you can buy your tickets currently. Tickets are $29, that's the early bird tickets.

00:36:12.09
youcantcompthis
If you purchase an early bird ticket, you also go into the draw for a $500 Hobby Hangout voucher. after the early bird tickets have sold out the prices go up to $35.

00:36:23.23
youcantcompthis
So if you do want to save $5 to spend on more cards once you get to the hobby hangout, definitely get on that.

00:36:28.52
Adz
Who wouldn't? Yep.

00:36:30.67
youcantcompthis
This year they've changed it up a little bit. Every person entering in will get a little show bag when they come in. So that's really cool. I'm looking forward to that.

00:36:38.03
Adz
Nice, nice.

00:36:39.21
youcantcompthis
Hopefully they'll be better than the fanatics bags that I've heard people spent $500 on and got $10 worth of stuff out of it. So that will be good. And announcing the Sydney show.

00:36:50.14
youcantcompthis
So Sydney will be in the 1st of December at the Sydney Roundhouse trading zone, poker zone, workshop, guide to card

00:36:56.37
Adz
No.

00:37:01.29
youcantcompthis
grading, live breaks, panel with Matthew Payne. Now I'm just randomly going to read out a bunch of stuff here. Card fever, Mike Fett trading cards, SJ2K, Pops Galore, local collectibles, Jay Swish.

00:37:16.91
youcantcompthis
Oh cool. The corner post, card slinger and break neck collectibles will be there amongst others. That is not, I've just read one off per line.

00:37:24.46
Adz
Amongst that's just some of the list.

00:37:27.53
youcantcompthis
That's how many lines of vendors is going to be there. So Get down on it. Have a great day. They're always improving, working on it, making it a really good experience for people that turn up.

00:37:38.81
youcantcompthis
So thank you, Hobby Hangout, for your support of sponsoring the show.

00:37:40.78
Adz
Oh.

00:37:43.34
youcantcompthis
We really do appreciate it.

00:37:47.21
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, let's talk about a non-basketball conversation because this is so crazy that I felt like we had to talk about it.

00:37:55.42
Adz
I know which one we're gonna go into now.

00:37:58.42
youcantcompthis
So this was actually in the sheet last week, so this could be very well old news for everybody, but I still think there are some relevance to us to talk about this. So this is in an NFL product where it was a first off the line, multiple different breakers then were having 25 downtowns in a single case.

00:38:17.25
youcantcompthis
And so the first people to break it was backyard breaks because they're obviously very good at the social media and all the rest of it.

00:38:22.06
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:38:22.75
youcantcompthis
But actually it turned out to be there was many other different breakers that it happened too. And really interesting too, and this is something that we can now talk about two weeks down the track.

00:38:28.14
Adz
Wow.

00:38:33.74
youcantcompthis
When we talk about people getting loaded boxes and stuff like that, well actually, these were like breakers that were the same size as me, maybe a little bit bigger, or maybe a little bit smaller, but they were literally, you know, nobody's in the breaking business.

00:38:36.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:38:46.10
youcantcompthis
So that's kind of a good thing that, you know, dudes like that got these cases that were loaded because it sort of implies that

00:38:50.99
Adz
Mmm. Sharing the love, so to speak.

00:38:55.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, those loaded boxes aren't just being given to bless and not just being given to backyard breaks. um The negative, so obviously that means that these loaded cases probably implies that then other cases are going to be a bit short. Panini actually came out with a statement to then say, in fact, no, they've done an independent review of what happened at the printing center. They did imply blame on it's a new a printing centre that has happened to it and that's what's, you know, contributed to the problem, basically inexperience.

00:39:23.75
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:39:28.95
youcantcompthis
And I think for me the interesting part about this is because usually Panini don't say anything publicly at all.

00:39:36.63
Adz
Yeah.

00:39:36.87
youcantcompthis
And it makes me wonder why, what would Panini's interest be in addressing this publicly? Can you think of any reasons why people would do this?

00:39:50.40
Adz
Why Panini would address it publicly?

00:39:52.12
youcantcompthis
I said people, but what I should have said is why do you think Panini went out to say that? Yeah.

00:40:03.18
Adz
I'm not, I'm, I'm not sure. I mean, they've.

00:40:06.55
youcantcompthis
So my theory or my conspiracy theory is that they're still sitting on 500 cases of this product.

00:40:08.99
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:15.51
youcantcompthis
And so if the general consensus is that, well, 25 cases have come out, these are obviously the loaded cases and now we're going to be left over with all these cases that don't even have a single downtown in it.

00:40:24.36
Adz
And the rest is going to be trash.

00:40:27.52
youcantcompthis
Well, then obviously the after sale is going to drop dramatically.

00:40:31.49
Adz
ye Yeah.

00:40:32.02
youcantcompthis
Maybe Panini can't even shift it off at wholesale prices.

00:40:32.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:34.94
youcantcompthis
Like who wants to touch that stuff?

00:40:36.91
Adz
Yeah, that's true, I agree.

00:40:36.96
youcantcompthis
But if the consensus is, well, actually no, you will be getting a downtown in it and The rest of the cases are still whole. Well, then fantastic.

00:40:47.55
youcantcompthis
Then some sales will still happen. That's all good for everybody.

00:40:51.20
Adz
It's like when a product comes out and the WMB one of one comes out already and you're like, oh great, what's the point?

00:40:51.54
youcantcompthis
I know that's a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah.

00:40:57.97
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

00:40:59.20
youcantcompthis
So I think the, the basketball relevant example of that was when Blaise did the numbers and then bought up as many cases as he could have prism choice from the Katie.

00:41:08.01
Adz
Yep.

00:41:08.71
youcantcompthis
He's like, all these one-of-ones are still out there. Like this is, you know, really good value. I suppose it's the, the direct opposite. Isn't it though? Okay. All the downtowns are out there. they All the good cards are gone.

00:41:18.27
Adz
Everything. Yeah.

00:41:19.53
youcantcompthis
Why do I want to buy this nonsense?

00:41:19.55
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. So if the one of one checklist was the opposite way and none of the good names were in, you wouldn't buy it.

00:41:20.89
youcantcompthis
You know? Yeah.

00:41:25.22
youcantcompthis
No one's buying that stuff. No, you're not going to buy the whole lot.

00:41:26.45
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:27.86
youcantcompthis
Exactly. So.

00:41:29.75
Adz
Yeah. True.

00:41:31.99
youcantcompthis
I think what does come into my mind, though, again, if we want to loop this back to NBA, we're just talking about the the micro mosaic.

00:41:37.58
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:39.65
youcantcompthis
This to me is the polar opposite.

00:41:43.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:43.25
youcantcompthis
Like, there's not one of these per case. There's less than one per case.

00:41:48.70
Adz
That's insane.

00:41:48.87
youcantcompthis
So, yeah. So to then see 25 of a case here.

00:41:51.09
Adz
Hmm.

00:41:53.78
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's.

00:41:55.34
youcantcompthis
It does make me feel a bit weird about the whole thing. i I don't understand. And what I'm about to say, do not treat this as not even gospel, don't even treat it as something that's relevant. But my understanding though, is that these also come out of retail.

00:42:05.85
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:10.09
youcantcompthis
So I don't think they are considered a true case hit the way that we consider a case hit in basketball. But nevertheless, to have 25 in you know more than one case is crazy stuff.

00:42:18.33
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:22.64
Adz
It's nuts.

00:42:23.01
youcantcompthis
ye Does it make you want to buy a case hoping that you'll get 25 in one?

00:42:30.70
Adz
No.

00:42:31.36
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:42:32.41
Adz
No. Because I know my I know my luck.

00:42:36.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:42:37.67
Adz
Yeah, no, it would be that would not be. ah I feel like it would not bear fruit.

00:42:43.33
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:42:46.10
youcantcompthis
So we did some optic choice on our page and we had the exact opposite experience. We didn't get an autograph in our box and we then had two dragons, which is supposed to be again, you know, ah an SSP.

00:42:58.97
youcantcompthis
So panini just all over the place. It just doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:43:02.11
Adz
Oh, that's true, look at this.

00:43:05.04
youcantcompthis
But anyway.

00:43:06.03
Adz
One of the dragons was, I now need to, we need to rephrase, ah NBA champion and Olympic gold medalist, Derek White.

00:43:15.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:43:16.61
Adz
Yep.

00:43:17.13
youcantcompthis
You called the Derek Wyatt. Spot on man.

00:43:22.15
Adz
he's um

00:43:22.19
youcantcompthis
He nailed it. He absolutely nailed it.

00:43:23.37
Adz
He's...

00:43:29.59
youcantcompthis
Um, so there's that short print in Optic. There's also the jazz. I'm not going to lie to you.

00:43:36.48
Adz
Hmm Yeah, it's a pretty ordinary it's a pretty order the dragon is a bit of a Yeah

00:43:37.46
youcantcompthis
I'd prefer some of the stuff that comes out of Mosaic to that stuff. Optic is such a weird product for me.

00:43:46.37
youcantcompthis
It's really weird. I find, I used to really enjoy Optic because the price point, there was a definite difference between it. And ah in my head, I was like, actually, I'm, I'm getting a bit of value here, but the price on sealed Optic for me is quite high. I'm always like, it's not that much different to Prism. And then the after sale difference between the two is so like Prism is say double or triple what you would

00:44:14.02
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:14.63
youcantcompthis
get for optics. So in my head now, that equation all just doesn't make sense. So for me, I find optic very derivative.

00:44:18.44
Adz
It's not, it's not great.

00:44:20.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:44:21.38
Adz
Mmm. It's not great. I don't, I have to admit looking at the card, I'm not.

00:44:25.02
youcantcompthis
Not that that particularly, well, also my photography was pretty shite at, but I don't think this is going to matter too much more in two years time, does it?

00:44:27.34
Adz
Hmm.

00:44:31.85
youcantcompthis
It's going to be Chrome and Chrome and Chrome, right?

00:44:32.20
Adz
No.

00:44:37.06
Adz
Top's Chrome.

00:44:38.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:44:40.36
Adz
All the top's Chrome refractors.

00:44:43.52
youcantcompthis
Let's do one more and then we'll get to a break.

00:44:44.84
Adz
All right.

00:44:46.59
youcantcompthis
So this is from our friends at Cardletter. This is the Beam Team, Michael Jordan, 1995 Stadium Club, PSA 10.

00:44:53.78
Adz
Whoa. Not the, um, yeah, no, it's not, it's not the, the, big the beam team we're used to saying on the, the earlier one.

00:45:02.13
youcantcompthis
It's a different one, but at the same time, I still thought this would be good to talk about for two reasons.

00:45:02.95
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:06.33
youcantcompthis
The price point is $13,000, so It's, it's high for an insert, but the population on this is very low. And this is the part that I'm probably interested to talk to you about the most because we sort of consider this time, you know, the ultimate junk wax era, but then we're getting cards like this that just have a population of 29 on it like that. Arguably is less than some of the case hits that, you know, we're tossing around these days. so

00:45:33.32
Adz
that's true

00:45:34.74
youcantcompthis
Look, I actually think, yes, this is very high, but considering what the population is, and obviously the man that's plus across the card with his tongue sticking out, I think that's a really good buy.

00:45:45.40
Adz
It's pretty good, guy it's it's, yeah.

00:45:47.84
youcantcompthis
I think it's definitely high, and I think you would have wished you bought it for, what does it say, $200.

00:45:49.60
Adz
Mmm.

00:45:54.38
Adz
Yeah, $200 back in 2014.

00:45:55.53
youcantcompthis
To be fair, that's in, yeah, well, that's, yeah, even in 2007. That's a fair while ago. Let's just go down the middle, say $400. That would have been quite nice, wouldn't it?

00:46:03.90
Adz
That is a very, very weirdly skewed

00:46:04.65
youcantcompthis
That graph is not to scale. Twenty dollars here and then twenty thousand at the top. That is not to scale at all. That's very deceiving. Who, who did the maths on that?

00:46:15.93
Adz
and Yeah, it's somebody at Card Ladder.

00:46:17.92
youcantcompthis
That's giving me OCD and I don't have OCD about that sort of stuff.

00:46:21.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:46:24.07
Adz
Yeah, that's that's weird.

00:46:25.51
youcantcompthis
That's totally weird.

00:46:27.18
Adz
It's a nice looking card though.

00:46:29.43
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:46:30.43
Adz
Very different.

00:46:32.12
youcantcompthis
Where would you put that in terms of your collectability? Are you chasing this? Do you think it's something that you would get in the future? Like, you know, where do you put this?

00:46:41.95
Adz
Beam teams, like el old old beam teams.

00:46:42.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:44.23
Adz
oh

00:46:44.86
youcantcompthis
So, OK, you love Kobe. Let's so say you could get a Kobe being team. Like, where do you put these in terms of your on your chase list?

00:46:51.51
Adz
It's an interesting one.

00:46:52.31
youcantcompthis
Is there is there being teams on your chase list? Yeah.

00:46:55.72
Adz
um Well, there's there's a Scotty Pippenbeam team. And and they are they're they're cards I look out for, but they're not ah definitely not ones that are at the top of my list, if that makes sense.

00:47:06.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I've got a raw Hakeem one, but maybe I should send it off and get it graded.

00:47:14.00
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:47:15.92
Adz
Yeah, do I did do do a bit of 90s searching today, looking for some shacks.

00:47:15.94
youcantcompthis
Anyway.

00:47:20.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah, cool.

00:47:21.01
Adz
I want a Shaq rookie. I want to see if I can snag it.

00:47:23.39
youcantcompthis
Don't, don't get influenced by Joe.

00:47:26.03
Adz
I just want a rookie. Just want his rookie.

00:47:30.56
youcantcompthis
Stick with Kobe and Steph, man.

00:47:31.16
Adz
Oh no, no, no.

00:47:31.96
youcantcompthis
don't don't get thank Don't get brainwashed by Joe.

00:47:33.75
Adz
like That's that pocket change stuff. It's not, it's not, um yeah.

00:47:38.92
youcantcompthis
Joe, we love you, man. I'm just ribbing your mouth.

00:47:41.54
Adz
There's enough Shaq collectors out there.

00:47:45.74
youcantcompthis
All righty, let's go to a break and then we'll come and we'll finish off. We'll do some quick hitting segments.

00:47:52.88
Adz
Quick hitters for the final countdown.

00:47:55.82
youcantcompthis
I don't think we're going to get through all of this, but that's okay. We can we can roll some of this over.

00:47:58.75
Adz
We'll do our best. We'll do our best.

00:48:10.20
youcantcompthis
We are back. Are you ready, Adam?

00:48:13.93
Adz
I am, I'm refreshed, I'm back.

00:48:14.77
youcantcompthis
All right. One of One Loganmen featuring Yannis LeBron James and Kevin Durant sold for $122,000 US dollars on the 3rd of August.

00:48:28.73
youcantcompthis
So again, a little bit of old news. Now, this is really relevant because we're talking about the tops now card with the three autographs on it. Okay, so this is actually a really good comp because two out of the three guys are on there.

00:48:44.17
Adz
Um...

00:48:44.62
youcantcompthis
Yes, it's a different type of card. This is a Logoman, the other one's a Signature, but it does give you some context in terms of comping because Jeff Wilson got a bit of hate online for his low ball offer of a hundred K. So now this really does emphasize, you can say at least that triple autograph is going to go for 200, 250. I think if you're looking at this, this went for 122.

00:49:08.81
Adz
Oh, look, I think it's going to go for over 500 that with autos on it.

00:49:12.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right. Okay. So he he definitely low balled people.

00:49:17.51
Adz
I don't know. I think it's a $500,000 card because you haven't seen LeBron's signature in so long.

00:49:23.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. But that will change very, very quickly in the next, you know, two to three years.

00:49:30.50
Adz
Yeah, you're right.

00:49:31.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:49:32.09
Adz
You're right.

00:49:34.54
Adz
Yeah, I mean, it's a big difference between that and the logo, the the LeBron triple logo, man.

00:49:35.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:49:39.71
Adz
How long, how much did that go for? Three point something million?

00:49:41.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:49:43.09
Adz
You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's, I mean, I've just taken us back but when we were looking at, was it Anthony Edwards versus like, um, when Ben Yana and we're looking at different cards and.

00:49:52.93
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:49:55.40
Adz
numbered to 99s going for for thousands more than the other and I don't know, it's time to place thing but yeah there's no locking it down with these. Do you know what I mean?

00:50:07.01
Adz
like There's no getting a, that's definitely gonna go for 200K or that's definitely gonna go for 500K.

00:50:12.73
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:50:14.45
Adz
I don't know, it ebbs and flows. It's like timing your eBay auction an hour late or an hour early and it being 120,000 and 500,000.

00:50:25.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right. Okay.

00:50:26.69
Adz
I think, I don't know, it's ah it's one of those weird things in the hobby where but prices aren't all way, you can't just can't put a stamp on it, yeah.

00:50:30.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:50:36.31
youcantcompthis
So I'm very, I'm actually very undivided on this. I actually think whoever purchased this, purchased this for a very specific reason. So whether it was the LeBron James or the Duran or the Giannis, I, I find it almost very hard to believe that there's one person out there that loves all three of these guys.

00:50:44.67
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:53.34
Adz
Oh no, there's no doubt that it's it's for one of them.

00:50:57.28
youcantcompthis
And then the other thing I feel about this too is that some cards, particularly in the higher end stuff, I'm like, right, that's money in the bank. You put that away, that's going to be, you know, good for your next generation or whatever. But this one, I don't really feel like that because I feel like this is such a particular card.

00:51:12.72
youcantcompthis
When it goes to sale next time, if there isn't a particular buyer out there for it, it might not even get that back.

00:51:17.63
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:18.97
youcantcompthis
that's That's how I feel about this. I think it's a great card. I think it's really cool. but I would have liked this more if it went for 85,000 or 50,000, 122.

00:51:26.59
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:29.62
youcantcompthis
That to me is a little bit crazy. ah Yeah.

00:51:33.35
Adz
It's a tough one, isn't it?

00:51:34.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah. This next one is just really to show some love to John Stockton. This is from sunny coast collector on Instagram. Thank you everyone for the Instagram support lately.

00:51:45.39
youcantcompthis
We have gone from 500 followers to 800 something in about two weeks out. It's been absolutely crazy. We're up to 850 followers.

00:51:52.88
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:55.17
youcantcompthis
We haven't paid for a single click.

00:51:55.20
Adz
Nice.

00:51:57.32
youcantcompthis
So thank you everyone for your support out there.

00:51:59.83
Adz
and Thank you for all the work you do on the on the socials on Instagram, Russ.

00:52:00.00
youcantcompthis
We put

00:52:03.26
youcantcompthis
Thank you for saying thank you. And actually you said something nice to me last week too, which I didn't acknowledge. I can't remember the exact word that you said, but thank you.

00:52:11.39
Adz
Something about preparing the run sheet, probably.

00:52:12.16
youcantcompthis
It it made me feel really nice that that next week I was like, yeah, he he appreciates me. you know like Thank you.

00:52:19.28
Adz
I'm glad.

00:52:19.79
youcantcompthis
ah Back to John Stockton. ah um John Stockton.

00:52:22.47
Adz
Yeah, we're sure gonna appreciate if John stocked it up, just ruined it.

00:52:24.94
youcantcompthis
Flawless card. Yeah, look there's not really much too much to say about this number 12 out of 15 I really like the design the red and the white goes perfectly together It's good to see Stockton back in the hobby.

00:52:36.14
Adz
Mmm.

00:52:36.28
youcantcompthis
I feel like there's been a few years where there's been nothing out there He's one of the greats. Yeah, I love this.

00:52:41.14
Adz
Yep. Yeah, it's a beautiful card.

00:52:42.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah

00:52:44.74
youcantcompthis
Caitlin Clark, one of one. This is from Twitter at WNBA cards, com sports card investor with a nice flip on the Caitlin Clark, one of one 3000 to 7.6 thousand in a week.

00:53:01.72
youcantcompthis
So congratulations there.

00:53:01.83
Adz
Whoa.

00:53:02.84
youcantcompthis
The consigner there was DC sports 87. Now I have bought through these guys. They have excellent processes and customer service.

00:53:14.55
Adz
Hmm.

00:53:15.95
youcantcompthis
I don't know this for a fact, but I do get the feeling that a little bit of the activity that happens on Probstein in terms of other people beating up cards, I kind of get the feeling that happens on this because, yeah, some of their cards go for very consistent prices, which does make me think it's there's something else going on there.

00:53:32.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:34.66
youcantcompthis
In saying all of that, can you go onto eBay and something's not Shield these days? I don't know. Anyway, Caitlin Clark is hot as anything at the moment.

00:53:45.29
youcantcompthis
It's actually possible that her team's going to make the playoffs this year, which is the reason why she was.

00:53:49.53
Adz
Impressive, impressive.

00:53:50.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah, because the reason why the easiest way to say this, and it's stupid, but the reason why she went number one to that team is because the team was so bad last year. So to get them to the playoffs is a massive jump.

00:53:58.22
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:00.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:54:01.50
Adz
That's huge.

00:54:02.35
youcantcompthis
All right. A Lori market in five year extension for $238 million. dollars Now this is a really interesting one. And again, this was on a podcast on ESPN or something like that.

00:54:12.60
youcantcompthis
So go and check that out. This is interesting because of the timing that they extended him. The date that they extended him means that he cannot be traded for the next 12 months, basically for this, for this season.

00:54:24.66
Adz
oh

00:54:25.54
youcantcompthis
So he doesn't have a no trade clause. However, he can't be traded without his consent. So it's effectively as good as a no trade.

00:54:34.09
Adz
Clever.

00:54:35.81
youcantcompthis
yes so Yeah. So now.

00:54:36.52
Adz
So he's he's giving himself a no trade clause without giving himself a no trade clause.

00:54:40.16
youcantcompthis
Well, you can say that or the other way you can say it, and this is the way I'm looking at it, is that Utah basically gave him a no trade clause because they could have said, well, no, we're going to we're going to sign you up before that date.

00:54:49.62
Adz
Yeah, true, true.

00:54:52.64
youcantcompthis
And that would have given us the ability and also to the amount of money that they paid this guy when I don't really think

00:54:57.62
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:00.34
youcantcompthis
other teams would be out there to to do that and to pony up to that.

00:55:05.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:05.63
youcantcompthis
That to me is is a really sort of telltale sign. So clearly the Jazz are building around this guy.

00:55:08.74
Adz
Yep.

00:55:10.61
youcantcompthis
They think he is, you know, one of their pieces for the future or

00:55:13.28
Adz
It has to be

00:55:17.21
youcantcompthis
Danny Ainge knows he's getting Cooper Flag, and it's like the OKC Thunder thing where they've got all these young players under contract who are good, and then they can actually go out and spend some money on some veterans to, you know, put around this, you know, good young kids.

00:55:29.38
Adz
Uh, I see what you're doing there.

00:55:31.16
youcantcompthis
Complete conspiracy theory, but at the same time kind of fun to mess around with that.

00:55:31.25
Adz
Yeah. Good point. Good point.

00:55:35.37
Adz
Seems very, um, yeah, possible. We we know it's any ages done in the past.

00:55:45.41
youcantcompthis
Would be funny if the number one pick went to Utah, so then two years in a row, it's like small market teams are getting the number one picks, wouldn't it?

00:55:50.20
Adz
It'd be interesting. Sure.

00:55:56.11
youcantcompthis
Are you buying Laurie Marketon? That is a really good question.

00:55:58.47
Adz
no No, just like no.

00:56:00.99
youcantcompthis
Laurie.

00:56:03.32
Adz
I ah try to justify it. i I'm glad to see a resurgence, but I'm sorry. Utah isn't isn't isn't on my radar as far as...

00:56:14.39
youcantcompthis
If, if you had been holding Laurie market and in the last two years, he actually has done really well.

00:56:19.05
Adz
Yeah. I imagine it would have gone up quite a bit, a significant amount the last 12 months.

00:56:24.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So look at in the last 12 months, actually that's not true at all. He's actually down 16% in the last 12 months. In the last two years, however, he's up 185%.

00:56:37.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:56:37.68
Adz
Yeah, okay.

00:56:38.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:56:39.23
Adz
Okay, over the last six months he's up 60%.

00:56:39.50
youcantcompthis
So that's yeah. Yeah.

00:56:43.37
Adz
Down over the last year, you're right, yeah. It's an interesting one, isn't it?

00:56:47.22
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so the the funny thing for me about this guy is the population. So population's 163, but all the things that you just said is also what is a little bit of a holding back factor.

00:56:57.38
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:58.16
youcantcompthis
In saying that, I think at that price point, $142, population 163, I think and you'll be fine. I think buying it at that price point, yep. Alrighty, this next one is a complete nerd segment.

00:57:11.76
youcantcompthis
Tai Tai Washington has agreed to a two-way contract with the Phoenix Suns. I think the main reason why I wanted to put this in here is he does have a little bit of low key sort of niche hobby value.

00:57:23.81
youcantcompthis
He was a Rockets rookie.

00:57:24.09
Adz
Mmm.

00:57:26.54
youcantcompthis
I think the reason why I like this because actually I think the Suns are going to be pretty good next to year. you They've done some really good.

00:57:32.57
Adz
but It's injury. They've got to be injury free, don't they?

00:57:34.93
youcantcompthis
injury free, but they've also added pieces to their roster that they needed. And they also added role players that are going to do things that their starters and their big boys, you know, can't do.

00:57:41.64
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:57:44.92
youcantcompthis
So I'm actually sort of low key high on the Suns.

00:57:45.95
Adz
Mmm.

00:57:47.76
youcantcompthis
And that's also the reason why I'm high on this kid. Cause I think he's got some good, like that's a really good two way contract pickup. Cause he's good enough to be on an NBA contract, but somehow they've convinced him to come to them on a two way contract.

00:57:59.16
youcantcompthis
So yeah.

00:57:59.53
Adz
He's got there on it. Yeah, yeah, he's got... He's been fleeced.

00:58:02.56
youcantcompthis
but I think that's that's good for everyone.

00:58:03.65
Adz
Fleeced by the Suns.

00:58:05.53
youcantcompthis
that's really good ah This next one is a bit of a funny one, and I thought, why not? If this guy was in the NBA these days, I think he would have lots of hype and he'd be super fun.

00:58:17.46
youcantcompthis
1997 Skybox Premium, Stefan Marbury, Thunder and Lightning.

00:58:21.72
Adz
Wow! I was talking about this card set the other day.

00:58:23.20
youcantcompthis
I remember him Yeah. I remember him back in the day on the slam covers with like him and KG with like, you know, the hats on backwards and all the massive chains and stuff like that.

00:58:32.24
Adz
That's it.

00:58:33.09
youcantcompthis
Like there was a cool duo, you know? Yeah. Sorry. I interrupted you about the thunder and lightning. Talk to us about that.

00:58:38.99
Adz
Oh, look, I was talking with Joe about it the other day. Like I'm still, I still like, I remember it was 90, it was 95, 96, wasn't it? The Shaq and Penny.

00:58:46.44
youcantcompthis
I'm sorry. I didn't put that connection together to be perfectly honest.

00:58:52.01
Adz
I was talking with the Shaq, there was a Shaq and Penny, Thunder and Lightning.

00:58:55.52
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:58:56.48
Adz
um But that was the original ones where they had to play it like that, yeah.

00:58:59.82
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:58:59.86
Adz
I don't know, I did like the, the original one. But yeah, Stefan Marbury. God. I don't know. I don't know. Is, is there a big, is there a big market out there?

00:59:13.08
youcantcompthis
No, I don't think there is, but at the same time, I feel like if he was in today's hype machine, he would be say 10% or 15% say less than Jamaran.

00:59:23.65
youcantcompthis
I really think that he has that sort of, yeah, he definitely had it in the day.

00:59:25.88
Adz
He's a high, he's got Faruja factor.

00:59:29.40
youcantcompthis
You know, there was a lot of excitement around him and like, if you remember how bad the wolves were and people were excited for that team when it was Steph and KG together, like that was a sick,

00:59:29.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:41.43
youcantcompthis
I didn't have league pass back in the day, but that would have been a league pass team. That would have been awesome.

00:59:45.58
Adz
Yeah, that's, that would have been something to watch.

00:59:46.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:59:48.02
Adz
Definitely. Back in 1997, for sure.

00:59:50.55
youcantcompthis
PSA 9 Thunder and Lightning sold for 1,025. I think for me, the takeaway on this is that do you start looking around for cheap Thunder and Lightnings because they've got some potential there because I think for Steph Marbury, PSA 9, that to me is way

01:00:05.90
Adz
It's one of those graded inserts, isn't it?

01:00:07.69
youcantcompthis
way higher than what I was expecting to go out for.

01:00:07.82
Adz
it's about Yeah.

01:00:09.93
youcantcompthis
The only thing again that's, you know, worth noting, well, it's population four.

01:00:12.72
Adz
High risk.

01:00:15.08
youcantcompthis
Actually, I think the risk on that is pretty low, to be honest, man. If it's pop four, yeah, I don't mind that.

01:00:21.36
Adz
But I mean mean, if you're picking up raw cards from the 90s to try and grade to, yeah.

01:00:27.39
youcantcompthis
Are you saying that's high risk? Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

01:00:32.14
Adz
Could be a bit of fun though.

01:00:33.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:34.03
Adz
Next big insert set.

01:00:36.10
youcantcompthis
ah This next one is a bit of a piss take at CGC. They have returned a card graded 9.5 mint plus when the card is so badly off cut.

01:00:47.49
youcantcompthis
The top half of the card is Tyrese Martin and the bottom half of the card is is Tony Parker.

01:00:49.28
Adz
Lameem

01:00:53.35
youcantcompthis
So this was actually put up by a parody account.

01:01:01.39
youcantcompthis
Lameme James.

01:01:01.67
Adz
James

01:01:02.31
youcantcompthis
I could never pronounce that properly. Thanks for saving me there. And CGCcards actually replied to the to the meme page to say that there was a label error on it. I mean, I feel like this is when you do a panini and you just go silent.

01:01:17.14
youcantcompthis
You just say nothing. This is just making you look worse. It should have been labeled as miscut. The attribute will be updated in the greatest notes on the cert verification page.

01:01:27.72
youcantcompthis
No one cares.

01:01:28.61
Adz
No, it gives a shit very good

01:01:30.38
youcantcompthis
Unfortunately, errors happen. I mean, come on, that is so horrible. So the way I read that is that the grade stays, but it should have had a footnote on it. I think i think if a card is so badly off-cut that you don't have the complete card there, it just literally should get the lowest grade possible. What is the actual lowest grade possible? Is it 0.5 or 1? Or is it 0?

01:01:55.90
Adz
I'm not sure, but if he'd get a one, wouldn't it?

01:01:57.37
youcantcompthis
Have you ever seen a PSA 0?

01:01:59.72
Adz
No.

01:02:06.14
Adz
I don't know what a zero would look like. It'd have to be pretty much it.

01:02:08.73
youcantcompthis
that's ah In my head, that's a zero card. That is some absolute nonsense.

01:02:12.86
Adz
The surface might be in good nick. You'd get a one.

01:02:15.92
youcantcompthis
ah Okay fine, give it one, but it's literally two cards.

01:02:21.44
Adz
it's It's definitely not getting a centering. The centering's a bit off.

01:02:24.95
youcantcompthis
I mean, and actually if you break this down a bit further, Panini has

01:02:31.92
Adz
The corners might be spot on, the edges might be great, the surface is good. Only problem with it at the center, it's not quite on center.

01:02:39.10
youcantcompthis
Slightly off. I'm pitying he has to take some responsibility here. Well, like come on. Where's the ah quality control there?

01:02:46.00
Adz
It's pretty bad. It's actually terrible, but yeah.

01:02:49.06
youcantcompthis
All right. Anyway, I'm sure CGC are going to have a long, successful career competing against PSA.

01:02:57.09
Adz
For sure, without a doubt.

01:02:59.57
youcantcompthis
All right, we have got three minutes left. I don't think we'd have time to go through Wembley Mania. That's probably enough for its own segment on its own.

01:03:06.16
Adz
well we'll We'll open with Wimpy next next next and episode.

01:03:06.90
youcantcompthis
However,

01:03:10.84
youcantcompthis
We can do Drew Holliday. This is a fun one. Is Drew Holliday a Hall of Famer? This is from Instagram at the score. They do some really good content. Six time.

01:03:21.37
Adz
Is Drew, is Drew, hold on, okay.

01:03:22.84
youcantcompthis
oh six-time old defense, two-time NBA champion, two-time gold medalist, and two-time old star.

01:03:25.83
Adz
Okay.

01:03:29.43
youcantcompthis
Now, the NBA champion one is also should have another footnote. He was a champion on two different teams with the Bucks and the Celtics.

01:03:35.20
Adz
Bucks and the Celtics.

01:03:36.59
youcantcompthis
And for me, that means slightly more because it means that you went to a team and took it to the next level. And I believe that in the Drew Holliday case.

01:03:45.51
Adz
ah I think there's an argument to be made.

01:03:48.99
youcantcompthis
Now, just to throw

01:03:51.30
Adz
I think he's ah i think he is a Hall of Famer.

01:03:54.05
youcantcompthis
I think some of the people who are now getting to the Hall of Fame, it's getting to the point where it's like, if he doesn't get in, I think we've sort of somehow missed the whole point of the Hall of Fame and acknowledging true champions of the NBA.

01:04:09.92
Adz
Hmm.

01:04:10.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So for me, this is an absolute no brainer.

01:04:11.56
Adz
Hmm.

01:04:13.59
youcantcompthis
The last couple of weeks, we've actually been hinting about is Drew Holliday like a low key buy. um I definitely think that's the case.

01:04:20.68
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:20.82
youcantcompthis
The other, I'm going to add this in into just to rub a bit more salt into the Drew Holliday wound. He's not on card letter.

01:04:28.03
Adz
Pretty bad, isn't it?

01:04:29.20
youcantcompthis
That's how popular he is. And I'm using air quotes now in terms of NBA popularity.

01:04:32.72
Adz
It's pretty bad.

01:04:35.86
youcantcompthis
Ah, this is an absolute chase car that has to go onto your list, Adam. Ray Gun.

01:04:40.63
Adz
This is the last one, I can see it, ah it's it's your friends.

01:04:43.08
youcantcompthis
Ray Gun, one of one. Prism. That looks like a mosaic print, actually.

01:04:48.25
Adz
It is, it's a special mosaic edition of Prism. Oh my God, and she's in the kangaroo pose.

01:04:55.44
youcantcompthis
Is that the kangaroo pose? is it It looks like the the sleeping kangaroo or the

01:04:56.74
Adz
It must be, ah don I don't know. It is the sleeping kangaroo, it must be.

01:05:01.18
youcantcompthis
Or is it the kangaroo about to kick maybe pose?

01:05:03.45
Adz
Could be, it could be.

01:05:04.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah. The striking, the pre-striking kangaroo.

01:05:06.31
Adz
It could be.

01:05:07.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:05:07.48
Adz
Have you have you heard the latest on this?

01:05:10.37
youcantcompthis
I haven't, but please tell me because I'm very happy.

01:05:12.23
Adz
Breakdancing has been t as been removed from the 2028 Olympic Games. Apparently it will not be a sport.

01:05:18.99
youcantcompthis
So, sorry to poo-poo on that. Actually, it was never going to be in the 2028 anyway, i regardless of whether she got three zeros and danced like a kangaroo. Sorry, mate.

01:05:30.87
youcantcompthis
Do you know what? There's heaps of... couldn Okay. do we Do we want to do this?

01:05:34.47
Adz
Oh, we want do we want do we want to get cancelled?

01:05:37.07
youcantcompthis
No, let's not do this. This has got nothing to do. No, we don't want to do this. I just want to laugh at cards.

01:05:42.33
Adz
i do I do like the custom ray gun card.

01:05:48.67
youcantcompthis
I would actually buy that. I'm not going to lie to you.

01:05:50.51
Adz
Would you?

01:05:51.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I would. it's In some ways, it's so Australian, it's funny.

01:05:58.10
Adz
It's pretty cooked.

01:05:59.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:02.27
Adz
Oh my God, the comments in here is is pretty funny.

01:06:03.20
youcantcompthis
All right. Final thoughts.

01:06:06.87
Adz
Final thoughts, don't become a meme.

01:06:11.70
Adz
um because they will eat you alive. um Social media, yeah, like of all the...

01:06:15.21
youcantcompthis
Well, actually she's apparently she's going to do really well out of this. Like she's had, she's going to have all these offers coming to her and marketing and all the rest of it and memorabilia and t-shirts and yeah.

01:06:22.63
Adz
Of course.

01:06:27.35
youcantcompthis
So there you go.

01:06:28.51
Adz
It's insane, it's actually insane.

01:06:29.14
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:06:31.12
Adz
Oh well. um Yeah, not a very quiet off season, is it?

01:06:36.17
youcantcompthis
No, heaps going on.

01:06:38.42
Adz
Stacks, it's good, it's always good.

01:06:38.98
youcantcompthis
Absolutely heaps. um My final thought for today is, yeah, keep working on your to buy list. Keep curating that and just spend 10 minutes looking at some micro mosaics and just, you know, give them a consideration.

01:06:53.14
Adz
Yeah, and if if um Steph Curry is not going down in this offseason, there's always next offseason.

01:07:01.04
youcantcompthis
Maybe.

01:07:02.76
Adz
Maybe.

01:07:03.43
youcantcompthis
Maybe.

01:07:06.20
youcantcompthis
All right, everyone. Thank you so much. We had a fantastic show. We hope you enjoyed it too.

01:07:10.87
Adz
Great show as always, we'll we see you next week.

01:07:13.33
youcantcompthis
Thanks guys.

01:07:13.82
Adz
Thanks.