Episode 159: Victor Wembanyama, Angel Reese, Larry Bird, Wilt Chamberlain, Steph Curry, Lebron James,

Episode 159: The hobby chat doesn't stop.

- Micro Mosaic take that didn't age well:
- Wemby Mania:
Top 5 most expensive cards
Slabstox trend; currently at 1k
Wemby /5 psa 9     vs  lebron james 2003 sp signature, psa 10, 10 auto
How many Wembys can we grade?
Kaboom
1/1 mosaic 
Wemby 1/1 select fastbreak
NBA athletes taking ozempic
Pick your 1-4 instagram 
Angel Reese endorsement   
Jru Holiday Hall of Fame
1/1 Gunn 
Suns roster  Stretch Nassir Little 
Larry Bird 1/1     Lebron Steph 1/1   
KG PMG 
Future MVP 
Wilt Chamberlin SGC 10 Rookie
Jeff Bezos Boston owner
WNBA update
Joke of the week
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Transcript

00:00:01.87
Adz
because we're glowing. yeah We going live.

00:00:07.44
youcantcompthis
Great.

00:00:09.52
Adz
I think.

00:00:12.80
youcantcompthis
We good?

00:00:13.55
Adz
Yeah, we're good.

00:00:26.11
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 159 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We're your hosts, Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson.

00:00:37.67
Adz
Russell, another week in the books?

00:00:40.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's been a good week. How about yourself?

00:00:42.74
Adz
Good, good, yeah, yeah.

00:00:45.66
youcantcompthis
Any card news?

00:00:45.82
Adz
Check. ah Not a lot of card news, but made a couple of little purchases bidding on a couple of cards, you know, same old, same old.

00:00:52.76
youcantcompthis
You gonna spill the beans or is it confidential?

00:00:54.48
Adz
Uh, I, picked myself up a razzle dazzle, um, Steph Curry.

00:00:59.60
youcantcompthis
Cool.

00:00:59.84
Adz
I was, I was thinking about different insert sets to, uh, to look into, and I was actually going through previous posts that made by yourself and mentioned by you in episodes.

00:01:03.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:01:11.16
youcantcompthis
Amazing.

00:01:11.38
Adz
You know, you know, I went to one you didn't recommend, but

00:01:12.91
youcantcompthis
Amazing.

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youcantcompthis
Let's not say who I didn't recommend.

00:01:21.15
Adz
i did Although, granted, I did try to find one that you did recommend last week and the prices were a little bit out of the range for myself.

00:01:31.69
youcantcompthis
Are we talking about the micros?

00:01:33.58
Adz
That's right, the micros, yeah.

00:01:34.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah, they're surprisingly high, aren't they?

00:01:36.43
Adz
theyre they they Probably because of the way we hyped them up last week, let's be fair.

00:01:39.96
youcantcompthis
oh we're absolutely we're rocking the hobby man for sure now i think just the general buzz around those is like pretty good i think also too we're still in that early hype train so i think yeah so i think just keep checking back on them and then you know you might find that

00:01:45.72
Adz
Yeah. Mmm.

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Adz
For mosaic, yeah. Mm, mm.

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youcantcompthis
The other thing I've noticed too is there's a bit of variance in the prices, like they're not all, some cards like sit very much at the same price. There is sort of a 10 to 20% variance in those, but they will sort of bump up and down a bit.

00:02:05.83
Adz
Yep.

00:02:07.94
youcantcompthis
ah Now we're on that actually. So last week we did do a segment about the micro mosaic being a SSP and then we put the post up onto sports cards nonsense and then someone put into the comments that actually it's also available in retail.

00:02:16.25
Adz
Yes.

00:02:23.24
youcantcompthis
So I think this is where I have to eat humble pie and then

00:02:24.07
Adz
Huh.

00:02:26.65
youcantcompthis
you know, apologize for spreading misinformation.

00:02:26.77
Adz
Oh no.

00:02:28.85
youcantcompthis
Like that's something that should be on Twitter really. So maybe I should go heavy on the Twitter post this week with the content from last week. But yeah, look, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. So I do apologize for spreading that out there.

00:02:37.89
Adz
Mmm.

00:02:39.49
youcantcompthis
But that actually, I find that a little bit curious in a way because in hobby it's there, but not always there.

00:02:47.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:02:47.94
youcantcompthis
But then in a product that I would consider to be a lesser product, you know, it is there.

00:02:50.39
Adz
Mmm.

00:02:52.40
youcantcompthis
So that to me is a little bit weird, but I mean, on the flip side, it's very bizarre, but I suppose on the flip side,

00:02:55.50
Adz
It's bizarre.

00:03:02.01
youcantcompthis
hopefully there's still a chase card and then hopefully just adds a bit of value to retail and ah again I think I'm gonna stay with what I did say last week was that just let's just keep an eye on the pop counts as they start to come out so yeah just yeah I do agree it just still blows that out a bit more that's all yeah

00:03:06.82
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if it's a case hit in retail, like it's still a case hit, you probably, do you know what I mean? Like, or that one per two cases, it's it's not, yeah.

00:03:25.58
Adz
It does, it does, you're right, you're right.

00:03:28.17
youcantcompthis
That's what I worry about. But anyway, look, we'll have to check the Bible of Ryan and then when the Bible has a new chapter in it and it's been updated, we um we'll be able to check that out.

00:03:32.20
Adz
o

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youcantcompthis
So we're referring to.

00:03:37.68
Adz
Yeah, in the short term in the short term, I can i can definitely tell you that the yeah it hasn't affected the prices, because I couldn't afford to buy one this week.

00:03:52.54
youcantcompthis
Now you're sharing your thoughts on that. Actually, I'll share something that I had into the sheet right down the bottom. It was actually down the bottom from last week. So I went into a three case break and it was a player break.

00:04:03.69
Adz
Oh yeah.

00:04:06.71
youcantcompthis
I'm not going to mention the breaker because we're not getting money from him, but it's probably pretty easy for you to go into eBay and just search for three case, three box, three case break. That's the word, isn't it?

00:04:16.14
Adz
o

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youcantcompthis
Three case break. Yeah.

00:04:18.77
Adz
Three cases were broken.

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youcantcompthis
It was, it was a really good experience.

00:04:22.38
Adz
Okay.

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youcantcompthis
I got Darren Fox, which maybe I overpaid.

00:04:25.33
Adz
Surprise, surprise, yep.

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youcantcompthis
Yeah, I mean, it was kind of the guy that I wanted, so I was happy about that. It was a good experience. The the funny thing was that it took me about four days to watch the break because it was a five hour break.

00:04:37.65
youcantcompthis
so

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Adz
Wow.

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youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's ah huge.

00:04:40.88
Adz
That's, um, that's him intense.

00:04:42.84
youcantcompthis
yeah Anyway, the cards have come into my shipping your account. Everything looks absolutely perfect. They gave me some freebies. They gave me a ah free retail packet and they gave me a free packet of sleeves.

00:04:50.72
Adz
Oh, nice.

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youcantcompthis
so And so funny, isn't it? Like that type of stuff. Actually, I don't really care. But at the same time, because it's free, I'm like, Oh, that's that's really awesome.

00:05:04.18
Adz
That's nice, yeah.

00:05:04.43
youcantcompthis
Like, it's really, it's really thoughtful, you know, like, that's like really good customer service.

00:05:06.96
Adz
Mmm.

00:05:08.15
youcantcompthis
So yeah, definitely shed out to those guys. Like, I don't think he breaks a lot of panini and I don't think he breaks much basketball at all. But he knows the liquid guys.

00:05:17.21
Adz
Mmm.

00:05:17.27
youcantcompthis
I think he's like a baseball breaker because he knew all about tops, chrome and tops. Like he was like all over that. So

00:05:25.13
Adz
Ah.

00:05:25.50
youcantcompthis
my My feeling is like his bread and butter was like baseball and then he's, you know, dipping into that, which is fine.

00:05:29.23
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:30.31
youcantcompthis
Like, you know, he had a good product and you know, he was a good breaker. So that was fine. and All right, so I've confessed my sins for the week. Let's um but's get into this week's show and I'm sure we'll make some more mistakes.

00:05:41.20
youcantcompthis
and So this next segment is called Wembley Mania.

00:05:41.76
Adz
Of course.

00:05:47.36
youcantcompthis
Basically, I was just coming across so much Wembley stuff in my save sheet that we just put it into one segment.

00:05:50.91
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:05:55.34
youcantcompthis
We'll just all go through it. We were going to do this last week, but we just ran out of time and I just wanted to go through this, you know, really casually.

00:06:01.36
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:02.40
youcantcompthis
Market Movers app, if you don't follow them on Instagram, definitely check them out.

00:06:02.99
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:08.37
youcantcompthis
They've done some really good work in terms of, you know, pricing and collating data and stuff like that.

00:06:10.45
Adz
Mm.

00:06:14.11
youcantcompthis
It's a little bit derivative of card ladder and, and generate, but it's sort of approaches things in a little bit different way. But this particular post is the top five most expensive cards for Wembley.

00:06:21.66
Adz
Yep.

00:06:25.70
youcantcompthis
Look, this might've changed since this went up cause it's two weeks old, but you know, let's still run with it.

00:06:30.42
Adz
Yeah.

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youcantcompthis
Number one is the black shimmer photo for prism one of one PSA 9 on that 516 K and It's not bad at all the gold so that would be to 10

00:06:33.88
Adz
Yep. That's a beautiful card.

00:06:42.48
Adz
Yep.

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youcantcompthis
BGS 9.5 on that 150K. I actually don't mind that.

00:06:47.26
Adz
Hmm.

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youcantcompthis
I think the only thing that was probably holding it back is the PSA, but I'm assuming they sent it to PSA and then they didn't get what they want, so they resubbed it to BGS. The green shimmer photo PSA 10 sold for 113,000.

00:07:03.40
Adz
No.

00:07:04.06
youcantcompthis
The black gold PSA 9 for 68, and the last one they put into there was the Bowman University. This is actually quite interesting. 8.5 on the Cardan Auto 10, 67,000.

00:07:13.47
Adz
Wow.

00:07:17.67
youcantcompthis
So probably that one is the one on the most worried about. The photo green also makes me a bit worried. And I probably think the best one in terms of bang for your buck is the black gold.

00:07:28.96
youcantcompthis
I think that's got the most so possibilities to go upwards just cause of the price point and the grade on it.

00:07:34.54
Adz
Yeah.

00:07:34.65
youcantcompthis
I think PSA nine is fine. So yeah, that's ah like a really good sort of measuring stick.

00:07:38.93
Adz
Hmm.

00:07:42.62
youcantcompthis
I'm going to steal your line from this. So I think a lot of this is future prices and this is for me, super high end.

00:07:47.28
Adz
Yeah.

00:07:51.08
youcantcompthis
heavy duty speculating here. And a lot of this stuff for me is a little bit of a stay away. And we're going to talk. So we spoke about the Kobe last week.

00:08:01.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:02.03
youcantcompthis
We're going to talk about a couple of more different one of ones this week. And I think they're going to be a really good measuring stick. So we can almost use that as a reference point for the rest of the show, actually.

00:08:10.16
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:10.20
youcantcompthis
I might leave leave that tab open.

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youcantcompthis
ah Alrighty, the next one is from Slabstocks. Now this is a really good one too because it gives us an idea of where we're at in terms of how he's trending.

00:08:20.38
Adz
Oh,

00:08:23.27
youcantcompthis
So this is for the the silver PSA 10.

00:08:25.36
Adz
yep.

00:08:26.54
youcantcompthis
At the start of the graph, we're up to 2,500. At the end of the graph, we're sort of sitting in that thousand dollar range.

00:08:30.86
Adz
Yep.

00:08:32.57
youcantcompthis
Again, this is two weeks old because I've put into the sheet. It's down 1.6 K or down 60%. So look, we have spoken about this the last couple of weeks.

00:08:42.78
youcantcompthis
So this is not exactly

00:08:44.37
Adz
we did We did touch on the the silver pricing, yep.

00:08:47.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's not particularly new news, but at the same time, it's just good to have a you know a look at this and get a measure on it.

00:08:56.47
youcantcompthis
Look, I don't see a massive problem with this at a thousand dollars, just to the population on this. I think it's going to be enormous. That's what makes me a little bit worried. But I think what we have seen, even when you have someone that has a high pop count, that doesn't always matter.

00:09:11.77
youcantcompthis
If it's the right person, it's the right card.

00:09:14.48
Adz
Well, it's supply demand, right?

00:09:14.65
youcantcompthis
The pop Yeah, the population does matter.

00:09:16.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:17.54
youcantcompthis
But I think, for example, on this one, it matters a little bit less than maybe Joshua Hart or Tyrese Halliburton or do you know what I mean?

00:09:26.14
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:26.96
youcantcompthis
Someone else that's sort of in those lesser tiers, you know, maybe even Anthony Edwards, you know, as popular as he is.

00:09:32.16
Adz
Oh, I tend to agree. You make a very, very good point.

00:09:38.91
youcantcompthis
Thank you, sir.

00:09:39.14
Adz
um Yeah.

00:09:41.12
youcantcompthis
ah This next one is Card Ladder. It's actually showing the same one that Marcus Movers showed up on there. It's the black gold to five for 68K.

00:09:48.15
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:09:48.41
youcantcompthis
Probably should have done my research. Oh, that's why I put that in there twice. All right. So the reason why I put this into the run sheet twice is because we're going to do a card versus card.

00:09:56.23
Adz
Oh, clever.

00:09:59.98
youcantcompthis
So, card versus card, WMB, black gold to five for 68,000 or the LeBron James 2003 SP Signages, PSA 10, Auto 10, and that sold for 53,000. So if you go to Lebron, you'll actually have a little bit of change, 15,000 in change. So add, what would you rather have, the Lebron and some change, or the Wembley Black Gold to five?

00:10:28.83
Adz
the The LeBron is numbered to 50.

00:10:34.83
youcantcompthis
Correct.

00:10:36.26
Adz
and But it's a rookie year.

00:10:37.94
youcantcompthis
Correct.

00:10:40.52
Adz
I'll take the LeBron.

00:10:41.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'm going to go with the Lebron too.

00:10:43.88
Adz
i'm i LeBron, we're not guessing that the man's gonna be the highest scoring player of all time. but It's a fact.

00:10:51.40
youcantcompthis
yeah yeah And if we ask Lebron, he's also the goat.

00:10:52.63
Adz
not a You know what I mean? We're talking about future pricing just just before.

00:10:59.46
Adz
Well, LeBron will tell you that. He'll also paint you a narrative for it. And that's fine. But his career is like, we're not we're not we're not prospecting here. This is LeBron James.

00:11:09.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely.

00:11:10.81
Adz
um And look, Wembley, don't get me wrong. I think Wembley is a phenomenal athlete and has a very, very good career ahead of him.

00:11:22.35
Adz
But it's, yeah, yeah.

00:11:22.70
youcantcompthis
And high upside, you could say that. Yeah. Yeah.

00:11:24.77
Adz
And plenty of high upside, but his career is still ahead of him.

00:11:26.29
youcantcompthis
yeah Totally.

00:11:29.88
Adz
um Yeah, Touchwood, let's hope nothing bad does happen, but he could he could get injured tomorrow and then it'll be, oh no, the guy that could have been. LeBron James is etched at the top of the mountain.

00:11:43.25
Adz
Do you know what I mean?

00:11:44.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:44.56
Adz
So that's why I'm gonna stick with that.

00:11:48.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think what you've just said, Dan, is totally fine. What also goes through my head too is what's the new baseline for LeBron autos? Because we're talking about this with baseline with Kobe autos.

00:11:58.28
Adz
Mmm.

00:11:59.87
youcantcompthis
Used to be a thousand. Now that, I feel like that's now got up to 2000 and then Yarnas used to be sub 1000, but it's very difficult now to get those autographs for less, unless you want to get a sticker, which would still be around that thousand mark.

00:12:04.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:14.84
youcantcompthis
It's really interesting for me about LeBron because I mean, yes, this is a rookie and it's a 10 10 that's numbered to 50. So this is not just a regular of the meal sort of autograph, but at the same time, like that's, that's quite a high sort of a baseline if you want to call it that.

00:12:21.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:28.20
youcantcompthis
So I think that's something to really keep an eye on.

00:12:28.98
Adz
massive baseline yeah

00:12:30.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah. ah Alrighty, this is from Eric Whiteback. And I think we've actually done this before, but this is really an update on this. ah This is technically not Eric Whiteback anymore.

00:12:43.06
youcantcompthis
He sold his account, just FYI for the peeps out there. PSA has graded more cards of Victor than Kareem, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, and Kemalajon combined.

00:12:52.84
Adz
It's a massive baseline.

00:12:53.62
youcantcompthis
So Victor has got 211 K cards and the other goat group has got 208k cards. What do you make of this?

00:13:05.94
Adz
was a different time not to sound out of like out of touch or old but yet it is it's like back it back in in those days grading cards wasn't a huge thing do you know um like wasn't as bigger the production wasn't as big it's yeah yeah that's that's as simple as explanation as I can give

00:13:10.62
youcantcompthis
Mate, we are we are old and we're probably also out of touch so that's fine.

00:13:31.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:13:35.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So I think that's for me, I agree with that a hundred percent. And I think, you know, yes, like time has changed and all that type of stuff, but I think also too, it's also those particular people.

00:13:40.30
Adz
Mm. Chum.

00:13:46.15
youcantcompthis
like Yes, they're very important to the sport, but Despite all of Kareem's achievements, no one's really banging down doors to to buy Kareem stuff, and it's almost the same as Bill Russell actually too. I mean, it's pretty hard to get Bill Russell stuff because it's either like that's super old stuff from the 60s, which is actually, it's not cheap.

00:14:04.26
Adz
Mm.

00:14:08.12
youcantcompthis
Or then you sort of go into the ultra modern stuff where he actually signed quite a lot and you can pick up those autographs again, you know, sort of quite cheap. Wilt Chamberlain, that's an interesting one to talk about. So actually, let's segue straight into that.

00:14:20.38
youcantcompthis
Let's further down the sheet.

00:14:20.64
Adz
Okay.

00:14:23.48
youcantcompthis
So this came out from SGC actually. So their Instagram page at SGC grading and basically to summarize the video, you know, too long, didn't read.

00:14:31.57
Adz
Hmm.

00:14:36.34
youcantcompthis
They found this card in like a treasure box. If you want to call that, they sent it off for grading and it came back as an SGC 10. So it's a Wilt Chamberlain rookie. um

00:14:48.69
Adz
What?

00:14:49.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:14:50.05
Adz
Like in a, in a treasure box. Like a, like it's like, yeah, yeah.

00:14:51.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:14:53.86
Adz
Hand me downs.

00:14:53.95
youcantcompthis
Basically it's like in a box that was in someone's attic.

00:14:54.66
Adz
Like, yeah, yeah. Yep.

00:14:57.15
youcantcompthis
It just been sitting there for, you know, 60 years.

00:14:59.62
Adz
Yep. Like a friend, a friend that used to collect basketball cards, doesn't anymore, pass away, whatever.

00:15:04.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:06.99
Adz
Like, and you're like, oh, look, they're all basketball cards.

00:15:07.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:10.21
Adz
And normally they've been pilfered.

00:15:10.58
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:12.67
Adz
They've been, and there's a wheelchair in there.

00:15:15.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:15.95
Adz
Wow.

00:15:16.60
youcantcompthis
So, so let's, now let's segue back to Wembley. So we're talking about the market movers. So at number two was the BGS 9.5, number to 10 gold, that was for 150k.

00:15:29.94
Adz
Hmm Yeah, yeah, yeah like how rare that card is versus

00:15:30.14
youcantcompthis
Then there's the Black Shimmer at 500k. So I think it's very reasonable to put the card between those two prices, but that to me is like,

00:15:42.35
youcantcompthis
It's not right to say it's a true one of one, but how many tens are going to come up of that card again? And there's going to be multiple one of ones coming out of Wembley. Do you know what I'm trying to say here? I feel as though

00:15:58.31
youcantcompthis
There's a real argument to be made that, you know, realistically, if if there was the market out there for it, that it is a $500,000 card.

00:16:00.38
Adz
Hmm.

00:16:05.43
youcantcompthis
But I would say at the absolute minimum, it's like a 150K card. I'm not too sure what they sent it to SGC though. That's the only thing I'm a bit like. um I'm almost at the point these days where if I was going to join a

00:16:16.38
Adz
Are SGC the ones to send though for, um, vintage?

00:16:21.71
youcantcompthis
That was the traditional vintage grading company and that's their niche.

00:16:23.34
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:26.67
youcantcompthis
But at the same time, I feel like I'm almost, if I'm going to join a cult, I'm going to go out into the desert and join the PSA cult. You know, like I just really struggled to, to get around my head, that type of stuff.

00:16:38.68
youcantcompthis
Now, like why on earth are you sending this to SGC? It just doesn't make any sense. So anyway, that's the only sort of criticism on that. So look, that's a huge, huge, huge card on that one there.

00:16:47.95
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:50.25
youcantcompthis
So.

00:16:51.10
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:52.06
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, where were we? That's right, we're up to Eric Whiteback and the Wembley segment.

00:16:56.74
Adz
And you segued within the, yep.

00:16:58.75
youcantcompthis
Into a segue, into a segue. This is, um you can't comp this at its finest.

00:17:02.59
Adz
It's yep.

00:17:04.45
youcantcompthis
Wembley Kaboom sold for $24,000. So that was the base and that was a raw card.

00:17:10.33
Adz
Unders or overs?

00:17:15.25
youcantcompthis
Look, I personally think that is very high for me.

00:17:18.64
Adz
I bid on a Kaboom today.

00:17:22.46
Adz
Not a Whimby.

00:17:25.64
Adz
But I won't win it because it was a Kobe.

00:17:25.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:17:29.82
youcantcompthis
Look, this could be actually one of those things where

00:17:30.14
Adz
24K.

00:17:34.46
youcantcompthis
I'm wrong about this, but I was right about what I was saying the previous weeks because we put up a socials post this week.

00:17:38.44
Adz
Mmm.

00:17:40.74
youcantcompthis
We're talking about what's going to be important in 20 years. And we're saying Kaboom's and downtown's are like going to be the headlining cards. So maybe this is what I need to get into my head. And the person who bought that is like, this is an iconic card.

00:17:53.11
youcantcompthis
Yes, it's off cut, but they're all going to be off cut. So here we are, you know.

00:17:57.74
Adz
Here we are, and well, imagine that, imagine you had a PMG rookie card to put it into perspective.

00:18:05.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Okay. So maybe. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So is that the, is that the better thing to keep in your mind?

00:18:16.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Okay. Great.

00:18:17.55
Adz
So so perspective is we're paying that price because it's ah it's a PMG rookie card down the track that's gonna be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:18:17.62
youcantcompthis
So he's.

00:18:24.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Okay, perfect. So then let's segue into ah another segment that was further down the sheet. Kevin Gunnet, precious metal gem PSA six, numbered to 90 on that population six.

00:18:37.06
Adz
We didn't script this, by the way.

00:18:39.35
youcantcompthis
It last sold for $27,900. So yeah, right. And that is literally, oh' that's social.

00:18:43.79
Adz
Okay.

00:18:47.56
youcantcompthis
I'll make a post about this this week.

00:18:47.96
Adz
Mmm.

00:18:48.92
youcantcompthis
and So that's perfect, isn't it? That is literally like one for one, isn't it? So

00:18:53.62
Adz
That's, yeah.

00:18:54.63
youcantcompthis
You know, you would think that when he's going to at least get an eight, it'd be unlikely it's going to get a six. So it's, I don't think it is actually, but at the same time, I think what's more important is the card as opposed to, I mean, yes, it does matter if it's a rookie or not, but I think, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:02.60
Adz
Is that rookie? Yeah. Second year.

00:19:10.03
Adz
surgery

00:19:15.78
Adz
i' just I'm just, I'm just like for context. Yeah. I'm like, as a, as a, as a measuring stick. I'm like, because what we're saying is this is when we, when we, one of when these rookie cards, there are no autos.

00:19:20.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:19:26.07
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

00:19:27.30
Adz
So what premium cards are we looking at?

00:19:29.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely.

00:19:30.13
Adz
And and I think the Kaboom or ah the equivalent of it the modern PMG, we we'll call them.

00:19:35.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:19:36.06
Adz
is is a good like a good starting point. So maybe that 24K is right.

00:19:40.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I mean, looking at that KG comp, actually I feel much more comfortable with it.

00:19:43.01
Adz
Mm.

00:19:46.37
Adz
Mm.

00:19:46.60
youcantcompthis
And frankly, I would rather have the wimpy kaboom than the KG, to be honest. The only thing that will let it down though is the the population.

00:19:52.87
Adz
Yeah.

00:19:54.42
youcantcompthis
I think the KG is going to like be a lot stronger in the population. I mean, this is stating the obvious. It's numbered to 90, but you know, one and one isn't out yet, but I can't wait to see the downtown of Wembley.

00:20:00.42
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:20:09.00
youcantcompthis
That is going to be, um you know, I'm actually looking forward to seeing the preview cards on that.

00:20:13.39
Adz
Is it just gonna have him dunking it? Like putting, cause he's that tall, like that long, that he's just dunked from the three point line.

00:20:22.93
youcantcompthis
Hopefully he's actually, so I'm looking at the, this is the next one we're going to talk about the true black one of one mosaic. Again, this is from at Eric whiteback.

00:20:31.67
Adz
Yep.

00:20:32.17
youcantcompthis
Actually, I really liked that action shot. Just him dribbling the ball down the court.

00:20:36.37
Adz
Mmm.

00:20:37.13
youcantcompthis
If it was like that, and then with all the downtown graphics behind it, that would be really cool. Yeah.

00:20:45.07
Adz
That's a nice, year yeah.

00:20:46.70
youcantcompthis
ah Eric estimates his card to be $35,000. So again, that sort of puts it in that same sentence as the, the PMG, the Kaboom.

00:20:54.65
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:20:56.81
youcantcompthis
I would probably rather have the mosaic one of one, the Kaboom. I know I'm contradicting myself now, but that, and it's also the true black, which is the color match with, that you froth over so much.

00:21:01.37
Adz
Oh yeah, but it's a one-off one. Yep, yep. I do like the black. Black Shimmer too with the black and white.

00:21:13.81
Adz
look at it or any kind of, you know, that's crazy.

00:21:14.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:21:18.93
youcantcompthis
All right, this is the last one. Then we're going to go to a break. This is from CardLadder. This is a eye-catching sale of the Disco Black One of One PSA 10. That sold for $45,000.

00:21:27.95
Adz
As from select.

00:21:31.18
youcantcompthis
So from Select, yeah, what did I say?

00:21:35.19
Adz
No, no, I'm i'm i'm just a select card going, being sold for for decent money.

00:21:36.19
youcantcompthis
Ah, cool.

00:21:40.56
youcantcompthis
So I'm going to put two points onto this. My first point is now this is what the third one of one we've just discussed. So again, that highlights my Wilt Chamberlain point. I do think that that Wilt is more of a true one-on-one than all these.

00:21:50.69
Adz
Hmm.

00:21:53.85
youcantcompthis
How many one-on-ones are we going to have from WMP 35, 40? You know.

00:21:58.69
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. The one of one really comes undone in that sense, doesn't it?

00:22:04.96
youcantcompthis
that Look, that $45,000 price tag, I actually don't mind that. I still think there's some risk there. I think it could definitely go down being select and it's being fast break, but at the same time, I think that's got a little bit of the potential to go up to.

00:22:11.02
Adz
Sure. For sure.

00:22:16.80
Adz
Definitely.

00:22:19.16
Adz
Pretty cool though.

00:22:19.44
youcantcompthis
All right. Yeah. Let's go to a breakout.

00:22:22.77
Adz
Let's do it.

00:22:23.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:22:30.18
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, we are back and we are going to get into some advertisements. So, the Hobby Hangout in Melbourne. Thank you so much to the team at Hobby Hangout, to Andrew and Matt.

00:22:39.35
Adz
Mmm.

00:22:44.29
youcantcompthis
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00:22:59.59
youcantcompthis
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00:23:05.50
Adz
Goodie bags.

00:23:06.62
youcantcompthis
Heaps of stalls, as usual, live breaks, panels, live podcast, Adam, we will be there representing You Can't Comp This, so I'm very excited about that again.

00:23:16.58
Adz
I was gonna ask which podcast is gonna be live.

00:23:20.42
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

00:23:21.76
Adz
And it's us.

00:23:23.11
youcantcompthis
I think we will be.

00:23:24.42
Adz
It'll be us.

00:23:24.54
youcantcompthis
We're going to have improved signage this time, though. That's our our goal for this hobby hangout, isn't it, Dad?

00:23:29.40
Adz
It will be easier to find, much easier to find.

00:23:35.44
youcantcompthis
Tickets at the hobbyhangout.com.au. Get on it, guys. You'll have a fantastic time. Now, if you are in Sydney, do not despair. There's also a show for you in Sydney.

00:23:48.62
Adz
Do not despair.

00:23:50.34
youcantcompthis
This is December the first at Sydney Roundhouse, the same type of setup, trading zones, poker zone, workshops, live breaks, panels, 60 plus different stores again. And I think we should start a rumor mill too. I'm pretty sure I saw something on socials that said Brisbane and Adelaide are going to be having hobby hangouts in the future too. So,

00:24:16.89
Adz
They've been slated to be on the on the card at some point, yes.

00:24:21.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so you people that live in cities that you know should be shut down, ah you will soon be getting a hobby hanger coming to you shortly.

00:24:25.55
Adz
o

00:24:33.21
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, let's get on to our next segment, which is titled and NBA athletes taking a zempic. It is about Zion Williamson. NBA superstar Zion Williamson is going viral for his weight loss. He famously signed a five year, $197 million dollars contract, which included a weight clause for his 2526 salary to be guaranteed. He looks very slim in this photograph. I got to say, do you add?

00:25:01.16
Adz
He looks unhealthily slim.

00:25:05.29
youcantcompthis
like

00:25:05.43
Adz
I don't know, it could just could be the angle of the photo. I don't know, it could just be the way the photo was taken.

00:25:09.17
youcantcompthis
It used to be like he's enormous like bolder shoulders and kind of his head on top of that.

00:25:09.31
Adz
I just...

00:25:13.33
Adz
Mmm.

00:25:14.13
youcantcompthis
He actually, he's got this like really long neck now and his shoulders are still big, but yeah, it's it's amazing.

00:25:20.19
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:21.65
youcantcompthis
I don't know if this is a real photograph, like there's so many tricks and techniques and yeah and and and stuff like that that's out there, but

00:25:25.81
Adz
He's... Photoshop. Yeah, it's true.

00:25:31.64
youcantcompthis
Do we believe it? How do you feel about this picture?

00:25:34.23
Adz
let's Let's believe the internet for now, why not?

00:25:35.96
youcantcompthis
All right, let's let's say it's true. So I think if it's true, this deserves an update of our card ladder. So 2019,

00:25:43.81
Adz
Alright, let's get on. Where is he?

00:25:53.56
youcantcompthis
it's amazing that like there's so many other cards that have come first before the Prism. Just give me the Prism card, come on guys.

00:26:04.91
Adz
One million silver prism.

00:26:07.62
youcantcompthis
to go back and edit this out I think mate. Let's put a note on this.

00:26:11.85
Adz
Silver prism, there's a slippery slope. is It's a toboggan ride if ever I saw one. um yeah ah' say for Over the last two years, he's down 75% and that was with an allar a high of 1,800 in ah October 2022.

00:26:18.02
youcantcompthis
Tell me about the Toboggan Raiden. Where we are we at?

00:26:31.43
Adz
However, He's been a bit more stable in the last six months. let' Six months to a year. Nah, let's go eat six months. He's up 12% in the last six months.

00:26:44.05
youcantcompthis
OK.

00:26:44.24
Adz
He's down 50% in the last year.

00:26:48.16
Adz
Do you want to have a a guess at what he's he his prison silver prism's going for?

00:26:48.44
youcantcompthis
I mean.

00:26:52.99
youcantcompthis
ah I'm just about got the screen up now, so I feel like I'd be cheating if I had a guess now, to be honest.

00:26:58.54
Adz
Okay.

00:26:58.57
youcantcompthis
I'm not sitting in the dark anymore.

00:27:00.10
Adz
Okay.

00:27:00.43
youcantcompthis
What about three hundred and eighty six dollars and twenty five cents? Was that it?

00:27:03.51
Adz
So that's an incredibly accurate guess.

00:27:05.93
youcantcompthis
It's it's amazing, isn't it? Yeah.

00:27:07.35
Adz
It is, it's almost like you had card letter up and...

00:27:10.82
youcantcompthis
Can I guess the population, too? Is it one thousand eight hundred?

00:27:14.07
Adz
Well, well, it it is. ah I think I can go, that's in PSA 10s.

00:27:24.27
Adz
the The total gem rate is 3,696 and ninety six and it gems at a rate of 43.09.

00:27:33.81
youcantcompthis
That was a bit of an old man joke really wasn't it?

00:27:35.78
Adz
Mhm.

00:27:37.01
youcantcompthis
Hey you want an even more old man joke?

00:27:39.39
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:40.18
youcantcompthis
I was out with my buddy on Saturday night and we went to the movies and then we came home like way too sober so we saw a 9 p.m. session so it was about midnight we were coming home we wanted to go out for a couple of drinks.

00:27:50.86
Adz
Yep.

00:27:51.49
youcantcompthis
And, uh, we were on chapel street. So there there was like heaps of like, you know, young people lining up to get into nightclubs, which is not, not our scene. We just wanted to sit down and have a couple of drinks.

00:27:59.22
Adz
Which club did you go to?

00:28:00.41
youcantcompthis
Ah, we took, we couldn't even get service in the end.

00:28:02.52
Adz
No.

00:28:02.54
youcantcompthis
So we just went home sober. It was like pretty, it was pretty average, but we had the realization that our kids are closer to the age of the people at the nightclubs than we are.

00:28:15.53
youcantcompthis
Our kids, our kids who are in prep, by the way.

00:28:15.61
Adz
Wow. Wow. That's a, that's a realisation.

00:28:22.64
youcantcompthis
Right, kick of the teeth, I reckon.

00:28:24.13
Adz
It is very much kicking the teeth.

00:28:26.03
youcantcompthis
Anyway, back to sports, can't I?

00:28:29.41
Adz
Oh, so Zion, speaking of kicks in the teeth. um Yeah, 380 bucks. so is right Is he a three, $400 rookie? Like, let's not let's not talk about the fall from Grace and the and the hype train and all the rest of it.

00:28:43.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:28:43.73
Adz
Zion, as he's sitting right now in that three to $400 bracket, is that is that where the value, is is that Zion's spot, or does he go up or down?

00:28:48.10
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:28:54.04
youcantcompthis
Look, I actually think at that price, it could definitely spike, particularly if he plays well and all that type of stuff.

00:29:02.29
Adz
Mm, yeah.

00:29:04.22
youcantcompthis
The one that's actually super interesting to me now that we're talking about this is John Moran.

00:29:11.27
Adz
Mmm, back to Jar.

00:29:13.60
youcantcompthis
Well, I think these two for me are like forever sort of chained together. So he's trading at 450.

00:29:20.95
Adz
and That intrigues me.

00:29:22.80
youcantcompthis
Because I feel like Zion had a much better year than Jar did last year. So actually it makes me wonder, the one to watch for the spike is Jar actually.

00:29:35.05
Adz
Jar's the one to watch for the Spyko Zion.

00:29:37.80
youcantcompthis
Well, I'm looking at this, I feel like people are already starting to get a little bit excited. So if you go to the last six months on Jar, he's up 12%. I think, so when I look at that, I feel like people are, you know, sort of optimistic around Jar, but like a bit pessimistic around Zion.

00:29:53.04
Adz
Yeah, yeah, that's true Hmm

00:29:54.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:29:56.80
youcantcompthis
Anyway. All right. The next segment is actually something I came up with and it is derivative of something else that I saw on Reddit, but I thought this was kind of fun. So these were the last four Kaboom sold according to 130 point. So thank you to Lane and Team at 130 point. So the first card was a Kevin Durant PSA 10 Kaboom that sold for 800.

00:30:22.67
Adz
Mhm.

00:30:22.71
youcantcompthis
The Anthony Edwards sold for a thousand. That was raw.

00:30:25.55
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:25.84
youcantcompthis
And that's this year's one. So obviously it's off cut and off centered. The next one was Jimmy Butler at four hundred and seventy one dollars. And then the Luca PSA nine. and And that's from 2020 Crown Royale.

00:30:38.81
youcantcompthis
That's sold for one thousand nine hundred and seventy five. So again, a really good sort of measuring stick on that in terms of value, future pricing.

00:30:44.43
Adz
yeah

00:30:46.27
youcantcompthis
So, Adam, what would you order these in one, two, three or four? One to four, I should say.

00:30:53.35
Adz
ah My order?

00:30:54.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:30:57.18
youcantcompthis
Based also on price. So that's a, this is where we did it a little bit different and you can't comp this to the other one.

00:31:01.32
Adz
Mmm, mmm.

00:31:02.84
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:04.20
Adz
Which one I would buy first?

00:31:05.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:06.03
Adz
like That's my order.

00:31:06.09
youcantcompthis
So for example, Ivan said Anthony Edwards, Luca Doncic, Katie and Jimmy buckets. Oh, okay. There you go. So you, you agree with Ivan.

00:31:14.99
Adz
Yeah, but I'd also probably, given the prices, I'd pay the difference and buy two Anthony Edwards.

00:31:15.40
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:31:20.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right.

00:31:21.20
Adz
Do you know what I mean? Like, that's a good price for Ant-Man.

00:31:24.80
youcantcompthis
Um, particularly for a PSA nine, I actually, I agree with that.

00:31:26.88
Adz
I think Luca's, nah, we all know what I think of Luca, so.

00:31:33.12
youcantcompthis
I think the only risk with the Edwards is that it won't get to even a nine and at a thousand dollars worth if that to me does become a little bit tricky.

00:31:43.02
Adz
I mean, if the whole year of these ones are nines, right? So nine is the new 10.

00:31:51.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:52.16
Adz
for this run for this specific run.

00:31:52.46
youcantcompthis
That's. That's the blaze rule. Yeah, definitely.

00:31:55.91
Adz
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, all all I'd buy two Anthony Edwards cabooms over a Luca Caboom.

00:32:02.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:05.23
Adz
Knowing that even if Luca does go up, I think Ant will go up exponentially, better value, like for the two purchasers, yep.

00:32:12.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:32:14.71
Adz
And Jimmy Butler, well, I don't know why there's a Jimmy Butler Philadelphia Caboom, let's be fair.

00:32:20.21
youcantcompthis
It's super weird, but I think at the same time too, these cards are so important that ah so I actually, I don't mind that price.

00:32:25.69
Adz
Yeah, like it.

00:32:27.80
youcantcompthis
Like I think.

00:32:29.20
Adz
Which, all right, so i'll now we'll go to the fourth one there, KD.

00:32:33.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:36.62
Adz
Is Brooklyn KD something you yeah' you're getting? Do you know what I mean? Like, are you looking for a Golden State KD? Or are you looking for a Phoenix KD? I mean,

00:32:47.05
youcantcompthis
I think Golden State KD is probably going to hold the most value long-term, but at the same time, my overall impression of KD is that he's undervalued to the point that he actually might be chronically undervalued.

00:32:52.04
Adz
Well, you've got the Warriors where he won a championship and you've got OKC where he won an MVP.

00:33:01.12
Adz
Mmm.

00:33:04.10
Adz
Sneaky.

00:33:04.56
youcantcompthis
And so a price or a purchase like that is probably actually going to be very good for a long-term hold.

00:33:04.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:33:10.04
Adz
Hmm.

00:33:10.77
youcantcompthis
Very good. That's my gut feeling about KD and that purchase. So yeah.

00:33:15.20
Adz
Yeah, it's an interesting one.

00:33:17.97
youcantcompthis
Sean Olloway, Ant, Luca, Katie and Jimmy, Ant for the simple fact that he probably has the most growth out of the four and in my opinion it's the most exciting to watch. Katie has had his career and I don't really think his prices will fluctuate much.

00:33:29.80
youcantcompthis
It's also a Brooklyn Katie, which will be my last pick of uniform to have him on that card. So he touched on a lot of things that you just spoke about.

00:33:35.24
Adz
yeah

00:33:37.00
youcantcompthis
Al Kanes, get A.L., A.E. is the most room to move in my honest opinion.

00:33:40.31
Adz
Yeah.

00:33:42.16
youcantcompthis
I can see him being more than Luca once he lands a ring. there you go Timothy Price, Ant, Luca, Katie and Jimmy picked Ant first due to the upside. No way you can go wrong with the Luca though.

00:33:53.07
Adz
Yep.

00:33:53.20
youcantcompthis
yeah interesting

00:33:57.16
Adz
Anyone else? Um.

00:33:59.68
youcantcompthis
Mark Cahill is next.

00:34:00.44
Adz
Oh, Mark Cahill, Edwards, Butler, Luca, KD. I think Mark's just um really been drinking the the Luca Kool-Aid that I'm selling.

00:34:11.13
youcantcompthis
Well, if I can maybe reason with Mark, I would say it's about the price points. I think if you're talking about pure price and also that it's raw, so you can take that Jimmy Butler and then grade it, potentially get a 10.

00:34:16.53
Adz
Okay.

00:34:21.61
Adz
Mm, true.

00:34:23.74
youcantcompthis
I think that that's a good play. And then if you're just looking at the pure numbers, you know, the Luca being a PSA nine. So that's actually the maths is there.

00:34:30.91
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And then Brad, Brad said, aunt, but keep it raw for obvious reasons.

00:34:34.90
youcantcompthis
Brad.

00:34:38.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:34:39.23
Adz
Um, Luca, KD and, and Himi.

00:34:41.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:34:43.73
Adz
Yeah. Oh, there we go. James man. I'll take the Jimmy and spend the rest on something else.

00:34:50.13
youcantcompthis
Do you think that it's because of his name? That's why he's buying Jimmy?

00:34:54.92
Adz
Possible. Possible.

00:34:57.92
youcantcompthis
Matthew Hull, Edwards, Butler, Katie, and Luca. That's really interesting actually. So that's I feel like everyone is basically going Edwards first, and then there's some mixture of the rest, but I'm surprised that Lucas actually last or second lasted a couple of these.

00:35:13.22
Adz
it's ah it's it's It just goes to show how our long-term listeners have been slowly accepting the my...

00:35:13.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:35:23.47
youcantcompthis
yourre You're brainwashing.

00:35:24.71
Adz
It was not really brainwashing. I was just sort of dropping facts that Luke has overrated.

00:35:35.59
youcantcompthis
Joelle Ant. Sorry, what was the question? Yeah, so Joelle is a diehard. Wolves and Edwards fans.

00:35:43.10
Adz
Yep.

00:35:43.20
youcantcompthis
Luca, Katie and Jimmy. Yep, that's fine. That's probably where I'd have my list actually.

00:35:46.86
Adz
Yep. Yep.

00:35:48.03
youcantcompthis
Actually, no, do you know what? I'm just gonna go controversial here.

00:35:51.44
Adz
Alright, which is number one.

00:35:53.05
youcantcompthis
I probably should put Luca first. And my reasoning is, those cards are so badly off-cut. You're probably... Oh, that's really expensive, of that 1,900 though, isn't it?

00:36:04.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:36:05.46
Adz
It's tough, isn't it?

00:36:07.64
youcantcompthis
Actually, do you know what, just by pure numbers, I'm going to go Jimmy but Buckets first.

00:36:12.96
Adz
Cause it's a nice cheap Kaboom.

00:36:14.15
youcantcompthis
Then I'll go KD because it's 800 and then I'll go Edwards and then I'll go Luca last. And then, yep, that to be honest, that would probably be the order for my own.

00:36:25.15
Adz
Hmm.

00:36:26.24
youcantcompthis
If I was purchasing all of these, that's the way I would do it.

00:36:30.17
Adz
I do like, um.

00:36:31.61
youcantcompthis
Raw or 10, you know what I mean? And you know, you're not going to get a 10 with the Edwards. Yep.

00:36:35.45
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, true, true. I do like Luke Rose comment at the end. Um, Ant, Luca, KD, Who, Jimmy? Her side note, Ant's got a Zippy's lip or it'll be another jar.

00:36:51.39
youcantcompthis
This is where we make jokes about Dream Page on Instagram. He's got to zip something else up too, right?

00:36:58.19
youcantcompthis
Too soon?

00:36:59.70
Adz
Probably.

00:37:00.49
youcantcompthis
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youcantcompthis
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00:37:38.15
youcantcompthis
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00:38:11.94
youcantcompthis
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00:38:22.57
Adz
Nice.

00:38:26.88
youcantcompthis
All righty, we are now back.

00:38:30.69
Adz
We're back.

00:38:32.90
youcantcompthis
Thank you everyone for coming back. We really appreciate it. Now, this next one is a bit of a weird one, but actually this is my favorite story of the week, so this is a little bit self-indulgent, but I don't care. You guys have to listen to it. ain't Angel Reese has signed a endorsement deal with Reese's Pieces and I love this so much, it's just not funny. In the background of the illustration, they've got a Reese's Pieces themed jersey with her name on it and

00:39:07.17
youcantcompthis
I would buy that.

00:39:08.14
Adz
in the races font with the color scheme with the like, yep, yep.

00:39:09.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:12.02
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I would buy that. Honestly, that is so super cool to the point that I kind of wish that the Chicago sky, I'm pretty sure she plays with Chicago sky. They would like do a Reese's pieces, Jersey for like the city edition was that, that was their, you know, their Jersey.

00:39:24.37
Adz
Mmm.

00:39:27.85
youcantcompthis
They'll be sick.

00:39:31.11
Adz
Yeah, I got up. Yep. Yeah, it would be

00:39:32.84
youcantcompthis
What NBA players could do something like this? Do you reckon that?

00:39:40.03
Adz
kind been and endorsement the like crossover with with a um I can't I can't i can't can't think of any.

00:39:40.10
youcantcompthis
or ah some like quirky endorsement that an NBA player could do. yeah

00:39:55.64
youcantcompthis
I've really put you on the spot here haven't I?

00:39:57.37
Adz
You have, you have.

00:40:00.52
youcantcompthis
So I wouldn't mind to see and NBA players do endorsements with like video games, for example. So, so the one that like comes to my mind is obviously is Darren Fox.

00:40:05.23
Adz
That would be cool, that would be cool.

00:40:10.24
youcantcompthis
So he did his own NFT, which like, you know, went terribly. So there's that part of it, but he's also like a well-known gamer.

00:40:18.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:18.58
youcantcompthis
So Ben Simmons back in the day was famous for basically playing Call of Duty for 24 hours straight.

00:40:24.87
Adz
Wow.

00:40:24.97
youcantcompthis
So I feel like, you know, Ben Simmons,

00:40:26.88
Adz
No wonder he didn't play much basketball. Get injured and just play Call of Duty. Fair.

00:40:32.35
youcantcompthis
But like, I get going down a rabbit hole on something and I do love playing video games, so who am I to judge?

00:40:37.76
Adz
Sure. Yeah.

00:40:38.61
youcantcompthis
But 24 hours straight, that is one hell.

00:40:41.02
Adz
That's pretty insane. You've got you gotta you gotta to stretch. You've got to take breaks. You've got to yeah got to look after yourself.

00:40:44.71
youcantcompthis
That is one hell of a binge. Yeah.

00:40:46.66
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:40:46.86
youcantcompthis
That is, that is a binge. Yeah. Anyway. So hats off to Ben Simmons.

00:40:49.96
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:51.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So i I wonder if like Ben Simmons doing some type of endorsement deal with call of duty or like Darren Fox doing, you know, the endorsement deal with the game that he plays. I reckon that would be really cool. Yeah.

00:41:00.83
Adz
That would be cool.

00:41:00.92
youcantcompthis
Or you could get into a room, you know, with them and shoot them up. Something like that. That'll be sweet.

00:41:06.12
Adz
Hmm.

00:41:06.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:41:09.71
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:41:13.15
youcantcompthis
Is Drew Holliday a Hall of Famer? This comes from at the score. Now, I love this.

00:41:17.40
Adz
Oh, I like this discussion a lot.

00:41:20.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah, me too. Six-time Old Defense, two-time NBA champion on two different teams, which to me is more important because I feel like

00:41:28.35
Adz
That's not easy.

00:41:29.31
youcantcompthis
He then becomes the missing piece on two different teams. And really, I think he personally was. I feel like the Bucks took a little bit of a step back last year and the Celtics took two huge step forward, you know, this year.

00:41:38.16
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:41.62
youcantcompthis
He was really just fantastic for them.

00:41:43.24
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:41:43.53
youcantcompthis
And then two time gold medal. And again, we just saw that recently. He was just such an important part to that team.

00:41:49.65
Adz
He was part of the core.

00:41:49.71
youcantcompthis
And yeah.

00:41:50.69
Adz
He was one of the rote he was a rotation piece on an Olympic team, noting Jason Tatum wasn't as big a role.

00:41:54.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:41:59.88
youcantcompthis
So do we want to talk about that a little bit and the skepticism behind that?

00:42:04.40
Adz
Sure.

00:42:05.14
youcantcompthis
That it was basically like Steve Kerr doing psychological warfare on the guy and also the Boston Celtics.

00:42:10.15
Adz
Like pre-season, like pre-season getting in there and and getting into Jason Tatum's head.

00:42:13.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so like Tatum makes the team but doesn't play.

00:42:15.81
Adz
Is it though?

00:42:18.26
youcantcompthis
Jalen Brown doesn't make the team. Drew Holiday does and then plays ahead and then your boy somehow makes the team and then plays more minutes than Tatum.

00:42:26.43
Adz
Derek White.

00:42:27.79
youcantcompthis
You know, it's super, it's super weird. Like you have to, when you say it like that, it sounds super weird. I mean, if you're being the cup huffle, you say, well, he was playing in the same position as Kevin Durian and LeBron James and

00:42:37.08
Adz
LeBron? ah Yeah.

00:42:40.99
youcantcompthis
They have the veterans of the team. They got, you know, the most amount of minutes, but I mean, it is really weird that the champion of the league couldn't even get into some of the games like that to me, that is unusual. You have to admit that.

00:42:53.95
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Interesting one.

00:42:57.60
youcantcompthis
If you're a Boston fan, are you happy about that?

00:42:58.07
Adz
Anyway.

00:43:00.02
youcantcompthis
Cause now he goes into the next season, fired up, ready to go.

00:43:02.41
Adz
Hungry. Hungry. Hungry.

00:43:05.22
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

00:43:07.13
Adz
I don't think he cares. i The Olympics are an experience. They're not about like... gene I don't know. i wouldn't I wouldn't be caring about it. It's just like Halliburton didn't care. And he's like, look at me.

00:43:18.59
Adz
i got I did the group project and I still got a gold medal.

00:43:21.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I did like that joke actually.

00:43:23.03
Adz
It was like, yeah, whatever.

00:43:25.62
youcantcompthis
So, yeah, I think it is a little bit different Halliburton to Tatum in terms of achievements. I think Tatum is definitely two or three steps ahead of Halliburton.

00:43:39.33
youcantcompthis
And you could make it a strong argument that Halliburton might never win a championship. so

00:43:44.21
Adz
of This is the thing though, if Do you remember the World Championships when they sent the other version of the dream, they the All-American team, that didn't have Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, LeBron James on it, right?

00:43:58.63
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:44:00.56
Adz
That version, Tatum would have been a key role player. Like, he would have been the star, actually.

00:44:05.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, agreed.

00:44:09.76
Adz
This version is, it's like, wait your turn, it's fine, go and grab a gold.

00:44:11.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:44:15.57
Adz
I know I'm sticking up for Jason Tatum. I love the fact that it's potentially getting in his head, but um yeah, i don I don't know. I don't think, I think he'd be hed be happy to have the gold medal, um to have the experience with LeBron and KD and Steph, and God, Steph was good in that final game, but um yeah. Anyway, back to Drew.

00:44:38.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we've said great, but that's fine.

00:44:41.12
Adz
He is a Hall of Famer, surely.

00:44:45.73
Adz
I mean, probably, is he first ballot?

00:44:49.21
youcantcompthis
I think so.

00:44:51.14
Adz
Like, is it like, is it first, is he definitely getting in straight away?

00:44:55.41
youcantcompthis
I think definitely not first. I think second it will depend on who else is nominated in that year.

00:44:58.05
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:00.80
youcantcompthis
I think for me, he's like a third or a fourth, but if he doesn't make it, I thought i personally think the Hall of Fame, this is a separate argument altogether, but I think it's very flawed.

00:45:00.84
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:03.11
Adz
Yeah, but he'll get it.

00:45:10.81
youcantcompthis
Like some of the people that get in

00:45:12.29
Adz
Mm, that's fair.

00:45:14.01
youcantcompthis
to me it's a little bit dubious and then some people that don't get in and actually the thing I don't like about it the most is the way that they put people in. I need to pronounce this word correctly posthumously. My preference would be that people get in when they're still alive so they can actually enjoy the experience.

00:45:33.30
Adz
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, that makes sense.

00:45:37.16
youcantcompthis
So would be, if they could fix one thing, that would be the thing that I wish that would fix first, like get people in when they're still alive.

00:45:42.04
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:42.65
youcantcompthis
There's no point naming people, you know, afterwards like to me.

00:45:45.24
Adz
Into the Hall of Fame, so their family can take the award. Like, you know, yeah.

00:45:48.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah. But like, let them, you know, geez, they've earned the achievement.

00:45:50.40
Adz
Sure.

00:45:52.81
youcantcompthis
Let them enjoy it. You know?

00:45:53.91
Adz
Let the kids play.

00:45:58.06
youcantcompthis
Anyway, so yeah. So are we both in agreeance that drew holiday?

00:46:01.73
Adz
i I think Drew's done enough. I do, and i and he's his career's not over yet.

00:46:03.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:06.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:06.93
Adz
Could go back to back and be three-time champion with the Moston Celtics. I'd like to hope not, but he could be.

00:46:13.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I don't think we need to go into this next bit that much because I've already said this on the podcast. so I'm just saying what I've said previously. Again, I think Drew Holiday is a buy. I think Drew Holliday rookies are an absolute buy.

00:46:26.35
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:46:27.08
youcantcompthis
And I just, it's actually really, he's not on card letter again with, I've complained about this already.

00:46:30.78
Adz
He's not, that's the, yeah.

00:46:33.39
youcantcompthis
So 2009, 10 tops Chrome numbered to 999 PC nine.

00:46:38.07
Adz
Yep.

00:46:38.43
youcantcompthis
That just sold for $93. Look, I think that is a very sensible purchase. I think that card doesn't have a huge upside, but I also think too, that is going to be like a slow and steady upper.

00:46:43.93
Adz
Mmm.

00:46:48.89
Adz
Yep.

00:46:51.00
youcantcompthis
Drew holiday 2009 10 crown royal rookie card that looks like it's an on card autograph, but I could be wrong 96 out of 599 that sold for $48.90.

00:47:03.11
Adz
No.

00:47:03.39
youcantcompthis
That's USD. Look, look, that is very shrewd. That is very good. You know, I actually think so if I was doing my top 10 list this week, drew holiday would be on my top 10 list.

00:47:16.96
youcantcompthis
I think that's, um, yeah.

00:47:20.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:20.58
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, one of one Ray Gun.

00:47:24.73
youcantcompthis
So when breakdancing intersects with pop culture that intersects with cards, it somehow ends up on an NBA trading card podcast.

00:47:36.86
youcantcompthis
And here we are talking about the Aussie breakdancer, Ray Gun. This is from Lameme James. And yeah, she's

00:47:47.43
Adz
Definitely worth a follow, Lameme James.

00:47:49.63
youcantcompthis
Yeah, she's got a one-of-one, congrats Raygun. I hope you're getting some royalties for that.

00:47:55.45
Adz
Oh, goodness. The podium finish there. There were three moments at the Olympics and Ray Gun was definitely one of them.

00:48:04.32
youcantcompthis
All let's do this next one as a quick fire one ad, and then we'll go for a break and then we'll have our last segment. So this is from Twitter at Shams, the the younger version.

00:48:11.24
Adz
Sure.

00:48:19.83
youcantcompthis
Um, man, I'm having a blank. Who's that guy that used to break all the news and then Shams came along and just words, the younger version of words.

00:48:26.39
Adz
Wurge. It's baby, baby Wurge.

00:48:35.16
youcantcompthis
the Gen Z one.

00:48:36.05
Adz
That's it.

00:48:36.80
youcantcompthis
and yeah um Phoenix Suns are waving Nezia Little and EJ Liddell per sources.

00:48:39.56
Adz
Baby Wurge.

00:48:44.65
youcantcompthis
The Suns will open up a roster spot and create flexibility for signings and trades during the season. Suns will stretch three years and $22 million dollars remaining on Lidl's deal.

00:48:54.61
Adz
yeah

00:48:54.66
youcantcompthis
So basically this is the um the same thing that happened to Lil Dang.

00:48:59.99
Adz
Mmm.

00:48:59.99
youcantcompthis
So basically for the next seven years, he'll be getting a paycheck from them. um He's allowed to sign with other teams. And my understanding is normally in the in the more traditional thing, when you're waived, the salary that you signed for then gets deducted off your you previous contract.

00:49:08.54
Adz
Wow.

00:49:20.17
Adz
Mmm.

00:49:21.54
youcantcompthis
But when you're stretched, that doesn't happen. It's this really weird kind of like loophole.

00:49:25.37
Adz
So you can just sign him and get paid whatever it is from Phoenix.

00:49:27.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah so he he basically caches like two checks, to two full checks.

00:49:29.33
Adz
Huh.

00:49:32.38
Adz
Is there any, is there, so who, who's, um, where's he gonna, where's he gonna end up then?

00:49:42.13
youcantcompthis
I think for me, the writing on the wall for this is not so much about him.

00:49:45.95
Adz
its

00:49:46.10
youcantcompthis
It's about what they're going to bring in next. I think it seems to me like the son's ownership of, you know, really trying hard to improve this team. And and actually this is really good timing.

00:49:56.74
youcantcompthis
So if you look through the depth on this team, Grayson Allen's back, Yudoka, Bradley Beale, Bol Bol, Devon Booker,

00:50:03.61
Adz
um They can stay healthy. I think Phoenix is very good.

00:50:05.77
youcantcompthis
Kevin Durant, Tyus Jones, he'll be starting for them this year. Damian Lee, who's become a very good 3-D role player. Saban Lee, EJ Liddell, obviously this hasn't been updated yet. Nizzi Little, they're both gone. Monte Morris, he's a professional basketball player. choose Joseph Nurkic, the Bosnian Bear. We've got Royce O'Neill, who is you know a fantastic, you know he could start or be the sixth man, that's fine. Joshua Coggy, Mason Plumlee, Isaiah Thomas.

00:50:34.96
youcantcompthis
So that, I'm actually not too sure about that because he's actually currently in Sacramento working out.

00:50:36.36
Adz
Hmm.

00:50:40.63
youcantcompthis
So I think this list needs to be updated.

00:50:42.60
Adz
Yep.

00:50:43.04
youcantcompthis
Ish Wainwright, Ty Ty Washington, we spoke about him. He's on a two-way contract. And Thaddeus Young, who's basically at the end of his career, but again, like a professional basketball player, you know, that is a very, very, very deep team.

00:50:47.48
Adz
Yep.

00:50:57.71
Adz
Yeah, it'd be interesting what they say, what they settled with.

00:50:58.01
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:51:00.31
Adz
um Yeah, at the conclusion of, of, of, uh,

00:51:03.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:51:07.51
youcantcompthis
All right. Let's just do this really quickly.

00:51:08.21
Adz
their pre-season.

00:51:09.24
youcantcompthis
Let's look up Devin Booker on Cardletter and then we'll go to a breakout and then we'll do our last segment.

00:51:15.78
Adz
Devin Booker. I found it.

00:51:23.35
youcantcompthis
All right. What do you got, man?

00:51:25.48
Adz
Last sold, $860 for the silver piece.

00:51:28.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right. Is that up?

00:51:30.14
Adz
Yeah, he's up 37% in the last six months.

00:51:31.50
youcantcompthis
How much up is that? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.

00:51:35.68
Adz
ah He's down 14% in the last 12 months and down 46% over the last two years.

00:51:39.46
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:51:44.77
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:51:46.01
Adz
So yeah, very interesting. um

00:51:50.85
youcantcompthis
All right, so is that buy, hold or sell at the moment then add?

00:51:53.55
Adz
Hmm, 860. That is a tricky one. i

00:52:02.03
Adz
not to Not to sound like I'm pessimistic about the guy, but I would i would sell at that point.

00:52:07.45
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:52:08.50
Adz
I don't know, I worry with two two alphas on the team like um Booker and KD, I think think it's gonna struggle for his hobby growth because he you don't know if he's the alpha or the beta on that team.

00:52:26.81
Adz
Bradley Beal, although he is paid in the same range, is definitely neither.

00:52:27.50
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

00:52:33.70
Adz
But yeah, I think it impacts. I definitely think it impacts.

00:52:37.17
youcantcompthis
So I think what's come out of Team USA is that Booker's game is still evolving and improving. I think that's that for me the takeaway, that there was a lot of talk about his playmaking, his off the ball movement, his D.

00:52:44.86
Adz
Hmm. Sure.

00:52:48.46
youcantcompthis
So you know that that to me is all very, um for him to coexist the way that he did, again, I think is really interesting because he's on a very stacked Suns team.

00:53:01.38
youcantcompthis
and you're just talking about Bradley Beale.

00:53:03.30
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:03.42
youcantcompthis
It's really funny for for me because the narrative around Bradley Beale is he's basically like a good player on bad teams. I think that's the best way to summarize his career, but that's not always Bradley Beale's fault.

00:53:16.08
youcantcompthis
The thing you could argue, well, the thing you could argue though is how much money that he negotiated for.

00:53:16.77
Adz
Well, it's not Bradley Beale's fault. No, you're right.

00:53:21.69
youcantcompthis
But again, if you've got a good manager and

00:53:24.48
Adz
Then all the best here, right?

00:53:25.11
youcantcompthis
That's what they've negotiated. you know So yeah, that's right.

00:53:27.35
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:27.85
youcantcompthis
so and there's But there's nothing ever been said that he didn't want to fit in on a super team or he didn't want to be the third player on that team.

00:53:34.62
Adz
No, no, no. He never never said he wanted to be the did the fourth banana.

00:53:37.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you never hear him grumbling, do you? right So maybe maybe it's going to be fine in in Phoenix.

00:53:40.56
Adz
Nope.

00:53:43.30
youcantcompthis
The only thing I worry about this card is that if you're looking at this for future growth, I think the next thing for me is a championship. But the West is so deep. The East is so good at the tippy top.

00:53:55.58
Adz
Mmm.

00:53:56.10
youcantcompthis
You know, there's no even guarantee that these guys are going to get out of the second round, let alone make it to the finals. And because, you know, if all the, all the talk that's happening at the moment, I'm really hot for yoke at the moment.

00:54:02.58
Adz
Spot on.

00:54:07.83
youcantcompthis
So maybe I'm i'm just blind and I'm just walking down, like, you know, ah and an alleyway just waiting to be ambushed.

00:54:10.88
Adz
yeah

00:54:14.80
youcantcompthis
But I just think that nuggets are going to be good next to year.

00:54:15.25
Adz
Just hop for the Joker.

00:54:18.53
youcantcompthis
you

00:54:20.22
Adz
I don't disagree. I think the nuggets will be good.

00:54:22.15
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I think they're going to be really good.

00:54:27.10
Adz
I don't know. i'm not I'm not sold on really good.

00:54:31.31
youcantcompthis
So my argument is that they won the championship and then the year afterwards, it's really hard to go back to back. And I think part of it is the mental hurdles, you have to jump over to get yourself prepared for two years in a row.

00:54:44.18
youcantcompthis
And I actually, when you think about it, they were a little bit sort of blase at times in the playoffs. Oh, like we'll win.

00:54:49.53
Adz
Mmm.

00:54:50.63
youcantcompthis
And even that game seven of the wolves, like you could tell they had the talent to win and they came back and then they lost it. So I know it's only one game.

00:54:58.76
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:59.88
youcantcompthis
and It's not one game, but you know what I mean? It was a series that they lost. But anyway, if they had won that series, I wouldn't have been surprised.

00:55:03.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:08.20
youcantcompthis
And we've segwayed hard here.

00:55:08.96
Adz
Yeah, we we've received quite a lot.

00:55:11.07
youcantcompthis
All right, let's go to a break and then we'll do our last 10 minutes of the show and then we'll be back.

00:55:14.60
Adz
Cool.

00:55:22.48
youcantcompthis
All righty, we are back. Welcome back, everybody. This is going to be our last segment of this week. So we hope that you've enjoyed what we've presented so far.

00:55:30.71
Adz
Mm.

00:55:31.99
youcantcompthis
And I think now is the perfect time to shout out to our friends at Central Coast Radio dot com. Thank you for your support and for having us on your radio show. If you'd like to listen to us, we are on Tuesdays, Melbourne time 11pm, Thursdays at 10am and Saturday morning if you're still up raging and not like Steve and I being sent home on our way sober to bed on Saturday night at 3am.

00:56:02.33
youcantcompthis
You can tune into Central Coast Radio. You can hear some tunes selected by Adam and I and then intersected in between that is the podcast. So it's two hours of radio and basketball talk.

00:56:12.07
Adz
that's

00:56:12.34
Adz
it yes

00:56:16.41
youcantcompthis
Righty, Larry Bird one of one. Now, I put this into the run sheet ad because it's Larry Bird. It's got the log him and patch into it and it's got his delicious as always autograph on it.

00:56:31.86
youcantcompthis
The price on this is really interesting for me. It's $39,000 US, so it's you know it's a very large chunk of change. However, I have no problems with this going for this price.

00:56:42.92
youcantcompthis
The really interesting thing in my mind is that Larry Bird, to me, is you know at the top of the pyramid all the time when it comes to people.

00:56:48.66
Adz
Hmm.

00:56:49.94
youcantcompthis
But actually, to buy his stuff, it's pretty cheap. And part of that is the amount that he's signed. He's just signed all the time. He signs in every product. it's not hard to get a larry bird autograph you can pick something up for around 200 to 400 you know easily right three if your budget's 300 you'll get a larry bird autograph no problems at all so if you want to spend 500 you'll get something you know pretty nice and we're talking australian dollars at this point by the way so for this to go up to that you know actually i really like it i feel like yes there's a lot of larry bird stuff out there but i also feel sometimes

00:57:06.25
Adz
Wow.

00:57:16.01
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:25.69
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:26.61
youcantcompthis
It's a little bit disrespectful, you know, to me almost like some of the prices this stuff goes for. So for me, I love this a lot. So let's go back to the start of the show. We're talking about, you know, the market movers. There has to be a Wembley card.

00:57:39.49
youcantcompthis
What was the cheapest Wembley card? At number five, $67,000 near mint 8.5, autograph 10. That's the one of one.

00:57:50.10
youcantcompthis
And that's him in the Metro's uniform. So, you know, yeah yeah, it's a bit of a price difference there, but at the same time, I know what I'd be taking in a heartbeat.

00:57:55.35
Adz
Wow.

00:58:00.31
youcantcompthis
I'm taking this Larry Bird in a Celtics uniform with the logo on it.

00:58:08.27
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hands down.

00:58:12.19
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

00:58:14.91
youcantcompthis
The more I think about this WMB stuff, the more complicated it almost becomes. Like, I feel like overthinking it actually makes it worse.

00:58:23.06
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:58:24.02
youcantcompthis
Not sort of, it doesn't let me know.

00:58:24.47
Adz
it It doesn't clarify things. It definitely.

00:58:26.91
youcantcompthis
It doesn't help me process it. It just makes me go, oh, hang on a second.

00:58:28.40
Adz
who

00:58:29.95
youcantcompthis
Like, this is just really difficult. Yeah.

00:58:32.27
Adz
Yeah. I don't know. um I mean, I'm all aboard for the ride, but I don't. Yeah. I don't i don't know if we know what the roller coaster looks like yet.

00:58:44.12
youcantcompthis
Yeah, just to complicate things even further, Flawless, one of one, Steph Curry, Lebron James, dual Logoman.

00:58:45.66
Adz
For Wembley.

00:58:52.11
youcantcompthis
We've got one with the ultra modern smooth, and then we've got one with the Lebron James, which is the knit, which is you know really similar to the Larry Bird one.

00:59:01.32
Adz
Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yep.

00:59:03.74
youcantcompthis
317,200 this sold for.

00:59:09.79
Adz
That's incredible.

00:59:10.03
youcantcompthis
Raw, that sold raw for that much too.

00:59:14.74
Adz
That really puts into perspective, um Larry, doesn't it?

00:59:22.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think that's the respect that he gets though.

00:59:26.70
Adz
All right, so yeah, yeah.

00:59:27.89
youcantcompthis
You know, I was saying that before it's almost like disrespectful. Some of his prices, like, I mean that.

00:59:31.85
Adz
I mean, you you've seen the videos, right? Like the clips with the Lara Bird and like doing the, yeah. You've got people that shoot at a waste paper basket, like Naros being going Kobe.

00:59:41.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:59:44.38
Adz
Every kid that's in under eight to under 15 wants to shoot threes from day one because of the man on the right. And LeBron James has scored the most points in NBA history. Like I think Steph Curry is probably the, a lot of the reason behind the value here. Like this, this guy read ah changed the game.

01:00:05.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I think the pairing of them together is, for me, that's the part I think where this multipliers, you know, this is not, this is not two plus two.

01:00:08.52
Adz
Hmm.

01:00:12.62
Adz
Oh, you think there's a multiplier because of the two?

01:00:15.62
youcantcompthis
For me, this is like two times two weight.

01:00:17.46
Adz
Times two.

01:00:18.30
youcantcompthis
That's probably not the best way. What about three plus three? It's not three plus three.

01:00:22.60
Adz
So it's nine, not six.

01:00:23.12
youcantcompthis
It's three times three. That, the maths on that is better, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Six. Yeah. Cause two plus two.

01:00:30.16
Adz
Okay.

01:00:30.74
youcantcompthis
Anyway, don't worry.

01:00:32.18
Adz
Two plus two, two times two.

01:00:35.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

01:00:35.59
Adz
About the same really.

01:00:39.72
youcantcompthis
if only we could edit this out somehow i right so it's funny you say that because actually I was thinking what's the old-school comp of this because this to me is is like the ultra modern

01:00:41.77
Adz
No, this is more fun this way. um But if you look at the Larry Bird, you multiply it, so 40 times 40. So there's Larry and magic.

01:01:04.79
Adz
That's magic and bird, right?

01:01:06.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely. That'll be cool. But I don't think that Magic and Bird would get 300,000.

01:01:12.01
Adz
You reckon?

01:01:12.94
youcantcompthis
No way.

01:01:13.32
Adz
Yeah. If it was autographed, maybe.

01:01:15.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah, maybe it'll get half of that. Maybe.

01:01:19.56
Adz
Possible. Yeah, yeah Magic and Birds signed.

01:01:20.30
youcantcompthis
Maybe a third.

01:01:23.33
Adz
There's more stuff out there for them, I guess.

01:01:25.64
youcantcompthis
I think to be fair, these two young guns have had a better total career than Magic and Burn. And Magic's career was tragically cut short. And to be fair, so was Larry Burtz.

01:01:36.45
youcantcompthis
He was decimated by back injuries.

01:01:38.72
Adz
Back injuries, yeah.

01:01:39.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:01:39.84
Adz
You're right, you're right.

01:01:43.26
youcantcompthis
Anyway, that's a fun one. I actually really enjoyed.

01:01:44.54
Adz
That was. I like seeing those ones.

01:01:47.67
youcantcompthis
The KG-PMG we've already spoken about, so we can skip on to the future MVP. Again, this is just me frothing over. Nicole a yo kick I've got him for MVP next year. We had some really good engagement on this on the social so it lift off cards It'll be a four horse race with yo kick and bead SGA and Luca again. I'd love to see Joker win it again. Yeah, I don't Disagree with that actually bang boys cards. My bet is SGA and White Aussie cards also had a good reply. I

01:02:26.78
Adz
I'd say to be between Luca, SGA and Joker. You're right. Embiid has a better team than previous years. I'm going to throw in some ruffies. Tatum and Yannis and Hallie.

01:02:37.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:37.82
Adz
We can thank coach Kerr for what the Celtics are going to do to the league this season.

01:02:42.79
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:43.93
Adz
So that's, um, that's a shout to the Olympics. I'm guessing.

01:02:47.31
youcantcompthis
Absolutely.

01:02:48.10
Adz
Yeah.

01:02:48.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:48.42
Adz
Yeah. He's just motivated the Celtics to come together and dominate. Yeah.

01:02:54.03
youcantcompthis
My problem with Luke's answer though, is that he's basically just picked like seven people. You know, you have to pick one. So Adam, which one athlete would you nominate for MVP next year?

01:03:11.42
Adz
That's a tough one. I am going to go with Yannis.

01:03:23.18
youcantcompthis
Wow. Why?

01:03:26.09
Adz
Because I think that man is angry and hungry.

01:03:29.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:30.83
Adz
and he has won it before.

01:03:32.10
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:03:34.35
Adz
He knows how to do it, and if they can stay healthy, they can get their stuff sorted, then maybe, maybe a resurgence in the bucks.

01:03:40.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:44.08
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

01:03:44.87
Adz
I also just wanted to come up with something different, because I was going to say Joker too. And not Luca, definitely not Luca.

01:03:51.08
youcantcompthis
You know, the funny thing about Giannis is that he's actually in his physical prime. He's 29 years old.

01:03:57.31
Adz
So he could just be ready to stomp on the league.

01:04:00.07
youcantcompthis
But in my head, if I had to Google this and it was 33, I would have been like, yeah, that's about right. Like he's been in the league forever in a day.

01:04:08.85
Adz
how long until ah How long until whenby's in the conversation?

01:04:09.05
youcantcompthis
So I

01:04:15.53
Adz
Is in the conversation of all defensive in year one?

01:04:19.04
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think he got a little bit robbed on that last year, to be honest. So I think the problem with him is that that conversation is very much a narrative driven conversation.

01:04:30.82
Adz
Mm.

01:04:31.42
youcantcompthis
And let's be honest, I don't think the Spurs are going to be that fantastic next year. So I think even if he is playing as a top five player in the league next year, he won't be genuinely in the conversation.

01:04:44.10
youcantcompthis
So let's take out next year. I think the year after that is year three, maybe he'll be in like top two to top three and then the year after that, I think in year four is when he wins it.

01:04:54.23
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

01:04:55.45
youcantcompthis
That's my prediction.

01:04:56.36
Adz
Okay, you're four, okay.

01:04:57.08
youcantcompthis
no Let's come back to this statement in four years.

01:04:58.43
Adz
Yeah, with with with with Coach Paul at the ah the Spurs, I think the development will be exponential.

01:05:04.27
youcantcompthis
Oh man, I love that so much.

01:05:06.90
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:07.08
youcantcompthis
I love that so much. By exponential, do you mean by adding two numbers together or multiplying them together?

01:05:13.60
Adz
Well, we could just, we yeah, let's multiply them together.

01:05:20.99
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, now this one is absolutely unfounded, but it's the type of stuff that I just froth over. This is from Basketball Forever. There is legitimate buzz around Amazon founder Jeff Bezos buying the Celtics according to Bill Simmons.

01:05:36.12
youcantcompthis
So there's some crazy number that was thrown out that he's going to bid like $6 billion dollars for it.

01:05:37.36
Adz
Really? Yep.

01:05:42.82
youcantcompthis
Now, the funny thing is this actually makes so much sense to me because he's got more money, you know, than you'll ever be able to spend in his entire life.

01:05:52.80
Adz
Yep.

01:05:52.95
youcantcompthis
So it's like, if you're that super rich, what do you do with your money? You buy something that no one else can have and it gives you all these like insane perks and access to people and you know, all that type of stuff.

01:05:58.34
Adz
Mmm.

01:06:04.72
youcantcompthis
Like, so it makes so much sense that you'd buy the Celtics. Then a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about the contracts, how much money the Celtics are playing their players.

01:06:13.59
Adz
Mm.

01:06:13.92
youcantcompthis
So then you need someone with like, stupidly deep pockets that it's like,

01:06:15.84
Adz
That kind of money.

01:06:19.53
youcantcompthis
sure, I will keep this team together and I will pay four times more salary than the second highest payroll in the league.

01:06:26.41
Adz
Yeah, the next guy.

01:06:27.75
youcantcompthis
Right.

01:06:28.08
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

01:06:29.47
youcantcompthis
And then it's in a major market. He can advertise on his uniforms and be like the naming sponsor of of everything that sell ticks.

01:06:39.97
Adz
Yep.

01:06:41.32
youcantcompthis
Like actually makes sense.

01:06:44.74
Adz
Do you reckon this could happen?

01:06:46.43
youcantcompthis
I, I think So let's just say he doesn't buy the Celtics. I think he'll buy a team like that to me makes so much sense.

01:06:53.69
Adz
Yeah, that may.

01:06:54.34
youcantcompthis
so Particularly after he saw, you know, old mate, Microsoft go into the Clippers and, you know, do what he's done with that team.

01:06:54.61
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:00.83
Adz
True. Very true.

01:07:02.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:03.26
Adz
Very true.

01:07:04.09
youcantcompthis
I can't see bees offs like going red in the face, clapping on the sidelines. though No.

01:07:07.90
Adz
No, probably not. Just calmly nodding.

01:07:14.10
youcantcompthis
I reckon we've got time for two more things. We can do this.

01:07:17.19
Adz
All right.

01:07:17.79
youcantcompthis
Now, this is an mba WNBA update. The Indiana Fever has had more views across social media than any NBA, NFL, NHL, or NBL team in the last four months.

01:07:30.81
Adz
That's awesome.

01:07:31.88
youcantcompthis
Jersey sales are up 1,193%. Ticket sales up 264%. 80 million social media video views, 800 million on YouTube.

01:07:48.23
youcantcompthis
740% more beer has been sold at games, which I'm not too sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but still is good.

01:07:54.61
Adz
Fair.

01:07:57.43
youcantcompthis
10 times more fans interacting with the website and the app. I must admit, I did download the WNBA app this year, so I will fall into that 10X.

01:08:05.28
Adz
There you go.

01:08:08.87
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I think this is all, you know, really good and

01:08:12.38
Adz
and That's all thing.

01:08:12.54
youcantcompthis
so

01:08:13.27
Adz
It's really, it's led by Caitlin Clark, but it's the quality of the league as well.

01:08:17.70
youcantcompthis
I think the quality was already there and then she was basically the match that lit the fire.

01:08:21.74
Adz
The poster child.

01:08:23.51
youcantcompthis
yeah ye

01:08:25.98
Adz
Yeah, I like it.

01:08:27.51
youcantcompthis
Origins is coming out and the WNBA Prism is coming out. I think that's going to go absolutely crazy. And you know, that supports my you know reason for that, I suppose.

01:08:36.97
Adz
Yeah.

01:08:37.54
youcantcompthis
Joke of the week goes like this. Jonathan Kominga is seeking a $224 million dollars max extension

01:08:45.16
Adz
Queue it.

01:08:45.60
youcantcompthis
from the Golden State Warriors.

01:08:47.97
Adz
q That's, ah it's ah well, I mean, there's there's there's other whisperings going on in the in the Golden State camp at the moment.

01:09:01.08
youcantcompthis
i So are you talking about the story that came out that now that Clay Thompson's gone from the Warriors that Steph believes that the spark is gone and he's requesting a trade to the Lakers?

01:09:10.76
Adz
Yep, that's the one.

01:09:10.82
youcantcompthis
Is that what you're talking about?

01:09:12.14
Adz
Yes, I am.

01:09:13.77
youcantcompthis
As much as I love the bees off story, just for like the unsubstantiated rumors, you know, I love that story just as much, but man, that actually makes sense. I feel like we were speculating.

01:09:24.00
Adz
I think, who's the lick? Is it Draymond?

01:09:29.46
youcantcompthis
I mean, who does anyone care? Who cares where the leak is? Do you know what I mean? Like, so I think the leak would be somebody that was at team USA.

01:09:34.58
Adz
If Steph wants to go to l LA, we will accept him with open arms.

01:09:44.02
Adz
Sure.

01:09:44.61
youcantcompthis
So, so I feel like that excludes Draymond for all these reasons.

01:09:47.72
Adz
Derek White, no.

01:09:49.23
youcantcompthis
Derek Wyatt, Jason Tatum, you know, MB, someone like that.

01:09:50.22
Adz
Jason Tatum.

01:09:53.98
Adz
Mmm, but he said he said he said that the rumor says he's had the chat with Steve Kerr and Curtis supportive of it Mmm So who do the Lakers give up because they don't get rid of AD Yeah,

01:10:00.10
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So it could be someone inside the worries and yeah.

01:10:08.85
youcantcompthis
Just some salary match, basically.

01:10:11.81
Adz
D'Angelo Russell goes back to Golden State Austin Reeves Rui Mmm

01:10:14.05
youcantcompthis
I think, yeah, so it'll be something like that. But I think also too, what you have to really look at is their trough capital. Cause I feel like that will be the part that is going to be really the make or break in the deal.

01:10:28.10
Adz
Yeah.

01:10:28.14
youcantcompthis
And I don't know what the rules are around this, but I feel like it's basically going to be a pick swap for the next 25 years. Like if you let go of Steph Curry, yeah, it has to be something, you know, insane coming back, but Steph Curry, AD and LeBron, on the same team will be sick.

01:10:33.48
Adz
Something crazy. Yeah, yeah. Oh God.

01:10:41.32
Adz
I'd be just like watching Team USA every, every night at Staples.

01:10:41.54
youcantcompthis
Like I'll watch that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

01:10:45.64
Adz
Yeah.

01:10:46.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right. Last one. And then we'll we'll go hold my beer while I fix the hobby is this next segment it's called. And this is the tops ultra rare magic box has been discovered by a father and son in South Colorado.

01:11:00.85
Adz
Oh, that's cool.

01:11:00.95
youcantcompthis
It had 48 autographs in one box, mate. This is the biggest spin in the world. They didn't deliberately do this, right? So this is like Panini putting 24 cabooms into a case, right?

01:11:10.19
Adz
The cabooms. Yeah.

01:11:12.64
youcantcompthis
This is the same thing. And so I'm painting my own narrative here and I'm in an echo chamber, like whatever. I don't care. But all these people are like, Oh, your tops is going to fix the hobby.

01:11:22.69
youcantcompthis
No, they're not. Like it's going to be the same nonsense we've been dealing with like for the last 10 years with panini. Like don't think it's going to be any different.

01:11:28.60
Adz
Yeah.

01:11:29.91
youcantcompthis
This is not an ultra rare magic box. This is their F R and they're just spinning the narrative to say that, Oh yeah, we did this on purpose.

01:11:36.77
Adz
Yeah, they weren't to know that some random father and son were gonna get it.

01:11:37.00
youcantcompthis
You know what I mean? Yeah.

01:11:40.64
Adz
I think it's great that a father and son got the box.

01:11:43.59
youcantcompthis
Oh yeah. Don't let me spoil that kid's moment. Like that's awesome. But at the same time, like, you know what I'm trying to say?

01:11:49.66
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:50.75
youcantcompthis
Like, yeah.

01:11:52.36
Adz
Like it's it's definitely not.

01:11:54.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:11:55.46
Adz
um It wasn't planted, it wasn't, yeah.

01:11:58.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:11:59.89
Adz
They didn't buy it from like the tops online store.

01:12:04.76
Adz
Do you know what I mean? like it wasn't

01:12:06.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

01:12:07.28
Adz
sent with intention, yeah.

01:12:07.65
youcantcompthis
Sure.

01:12:10.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Any shout outs this week out?

01:12:14.30
Adz
No shout out for me this week.

01:12:15.78
youcantcompthis
Okay. Well, in that case, thanks everyone for listening. We hope you enjoyed the show. Adam, thank you for your time.

01:12:21.53
Adz
And we will thank you, pleasure as always.

01:12:24.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:12:24.84
Adz
We'll see you next week.

01:12:25.94
youcantcompthis
Absolutely. Bye.

01:12:27.07
Adz
Thanks everyone.