Episode 160: Topps Chrome is here! Another Wembanyama 1/1 pulled, Spectra, Triple Auto Update and more

Episode 160: Topps Chrome is here! Another Wembanyama 1/1 pulled, Spectra, Triple Auto Update and more

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CC panini exclusive
CT scanner rumours

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00:00:09.43
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 160 of the You Can't Comp This and NBA Trading Card Podcast. We are your hosts, Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson. Good evening, Russell. we We're a day early.

00:00:24.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we are, aren't we? We're gonna pod today because we've got Father's Day tomorrow.

00:00:26.27
Adz
We do, we do.

00:00:30.82
youcantcompthis
And ah part of our weekly in and out, we always go through our correspondence before we podcast.

00:00:31.00
Adz
What's going on?

00:00:35.82
youcantcompthis
And there's one I forgot to mention to you today. So I'll just quickly read through it now.

00:00:41.15
Adz
Sure.

00:00:42.31
youcantcompthis
Dear Mr. Gibson and Mr. Amy, RE cease and desist inaccurate and defamatory statements on You Can't Comp this MBA podcast. I am writing to you in my capacity as commissioner of the National Basketball Association regarding recent episodes of your podcast.

00:00:58.27
youcantcompthis
You can't comp this, which contains segments titled Zion Taking Osempic and Joke of the Week. It has come to our attention these segments include statements that are not factual and have the potential to cause harm to the individuals involved as well as the NBA as an organization. Specifically the segment titled Zion Taking Osempic contains claims about an NBA player that are not supported by any factual evidence.

00:01:22.09
youcantcompthis
and which may be defamatory. Additionally, the segment Joke of the Week includes content that we believe misrepresents factual information, thereby misleading your audience. Yada, yada, yada. There's quite a bit going on in this. There's a little bit going on there. um Sincerely, Adam Silver, the commissioner of the National Basketball Association. P.S. I also know Dennis Rodman, who is friends with the Korean president who has nukes. Beware.

00:01:52.38
Adz
We've been put on, we've been put on notice.

00:01:54.68
youcantcompthis
Absolutely.

00:01:56.62
Adz
Did winning said cause harm, is that the Ozempic that's gonna cause harm?

00:02:02.06
Adz
That answers that question about influence, doesn't it?

00:02:03.23
youcantcompthis
I don't know. Jeez. It's just a, it was just a headline, Adam. I mean, come on, man.

00:02:09.30
Adz
Goodness, goodness.

00:02:10.61
youcantcompthis
Relax. Anyway, we'll have to get the lawyers to respond to that. I think.

00:02:15.21
Adz
That's fine, yeah, we' we'll get we'll get onto that.

00:02:21.11
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, let's start with the triple autograph, which is causing quite a bit of stir online. So ah I don't want to.

00:02:27.28
Adz
Have you put an offer, have you put an offer in for that?

00:02:29.93
youcantcompthis
I don't think I've got the cashola to match with these big boys.

00:02:35.83
youcantcompthis
So there's a lot going on with this and we have spoken about this already. So we weren't, you know, sort of keep going.

00:02:38.41
Adz
Hmm.

00:02:40.20
youcantcompthis
But basically what's happening at the moment is where there's sort of three main people bidding on it. And obviously Golden's in there. Obviously the person, you know, we don't want to name.

00:02:50.60
youcantcompthis
And there's like another sort of, you know, break group.

00:02:53.73
Adz
Hmm.

00:02:54.06
youcantcompthis
There's Jumpian too, but it's really interesting. So his, the third offer is actually dependent on different things, that the autographs aren't smudged, that it needs to get a particular grade.

00:03:05.76
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:07.22
youcantcompthis
And so Ken Golden then basically did like ah almost like a hit video, like if it was a rapper doing it. It'd be like a, you know, a rap battle was about to, you know, happen.

00:03:19.15
youcantcompthis
And basically he was just taking shots at the guy saying that, you know, my offer is not dependent on anything.

00:03:19.33
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:24.70
youcantcompthis
Like my offer is real, you know, it's, it's sitting here right now, but they're definitely, it's going up. So the thing that's really on my mind, and this is what I'm wanting to talk to you about is what do you think the actual value on this?

00:03:35.65
youcantcompthis
Cause remember the first offer was a hundred K, but the more that this sort of,

00:03:40.53
Adz
more press it gets.

00:03:41.00
youcantcompthis
goes on and it actually makes me think that this actually is more, maybe more valuable than I initially gave it credit for. That's the that's where I'm starting to head now.

00:03:48.65
Adz
Did I, did I have it in, it I think I had, didn't I have it like as a $1.5 million dollars card or something stupid like that? I said, the minimum it's going to go for is half a mil. Like it's not.

00:04:00.84
youcantcompthis
That's where in my head, that's sort of where I'm at. I do struggle more than that just because they're not in NBA jerseys, but I could be

00:04:08.47
Adz
But they're, all right, so then you're right, they're not in NBA jerseys, but they're also in official jerseys, if that makes sense.

00:04:18.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:04:18.38
Adz
They're not college jerseys, they're not like tank tops that they're just training in. That is Team USA, that is a branded, it's also got the Olympics USA symbol on it, so.

00:04:23.99
youcantcompthis
And now.

00:04:29.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And now Katie's the leading all time scorer for basketball and you know, there's a lot going on. There's LeBron and the way Steph played in the Olympics.

00:04:34.81
Adz
Mm, mm.

00:04:38.78
youcantcompthis
It was, it was great, but yeah. So am I missing something here or do you think this is all just smoke and mirrors?

00:04:44.00
Adz
I think it's ah it's a piece of history card.

00:04:45.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:04:46.43
Adz
It's one of the, it it is a piece of history card. That's the the the most I can sum it up.

00:04:51.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:04:54.83
Adz
Like ah it's not,

00:04:59.14
Adz
I don't think this card's a joke is what I'm gonna, but ah what I'd say.

00:05:01.13
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:05:03.18
Adz
it's ah It's one of one and it's, I think it's an important one of one.

00:05:08.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah. ah This is a bit of junk news, but I'm going to talk about it anyway. So one of these cards actually popped up on eBay recently. The account was

00:05:20.31
youcantcompthis
zero feedback and just joined the platform in July. So, you know, obviously it was like a fake card that was put up there for it.

00:05:27.84
Adz
yeah oh wow

00:05:29.55
youcantcompthis
Uh, it got up to $25,700 and then the post was taken down and basically the accounts disappeared. So still kind of cool junk. All right, let's move on.

00:05:40.71
youcantcompthis
Now this next one is actually not technically basketball. However, I do want to talk to you about it. So this is from Eric Whiteback. He's aggregated this from eighth wonder cards.

00:05:51.81
Adz
okay

00:05:51.96
youcantcompthis
And it was about a gentleman who went to the nationals. He bought a card for 7,500. And then it was authenticated. It wasn't graded. Then when he took it home, where the seller had put the price sticker of $7,500, when he unpeeled that, the card had a significant amount of damage on that bottom right hand corner.

00:06:13.40
Adz
Okay. That's not a die cut, is it?

00:06:17.56
youcantcompthis
It's just about a die cut, mate. You could probably get some scissors and just like trim it down, make it to a die cut.

00:06:21.83
Adz
I make it look like it.

00:06:23.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:06:23.62
Adz
Yeah, exactly. Oh, that is gross.

00:06:25.66
youcantcompthis
Man, this Twitter adds out of control. So while I'm talking to you about this card on the right hand side here, you know those game systems they try and sell you with like 30,000 games and they're playing like old school Game Boy and Mega Drive?

00:06:36.66
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:38.13
youcantcompthis
That's going on in the comments of Twitter. It's out of control at Twitter comments now, isn't it?

00:06:43.22
Adz
that's some That's what happens when you when something like a big platform like Twitter is unregulated.

00:06:43.43
youcantcompthis
Anyway, back to our ah our content.

00:06:50.48
youcantcompthis
Oh man.

00:06:52.03
Adz
I need I had to just bring it back a little bit. Sorry.

00:06:54.24
youcantcompthis
I do love Twitter. All right, who is in the wrong here, the buyer or the seller? The seller because obviously he didn't disclose it or the buyer because he didn't take one minute to look at a $7,500 purchase.

00:07:09.71
Adz
I think I think there's a little there's a little negligence on both sides. Like I definitely think that a seven and a half thousand dollar purchase warrants a giving the card a once over.

00:07:26.43
youcantcompthis
Particularly face to face.

00:07:27.34
Adz
But surely you looked at the back of it.

00:07:27.92
youcantcompthis
It's really hard sometimes buying cards online.

00:07:30.04
Adz
Surely you looked at the back of the card, right? Do you know what I mean?

00:07:33.55
youcantcompthis
That's actually a good. There's no actual pictures of the bad. That's a good point. It's hard to think that.

00:07:37.87
Adz
Wouldn't you you grab it and look at the back and say that it's completely cooked on the back?

00:07:42.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I didn't actually think of that.

00:07:44.04
Adz
I don't know.

00:07:45.28
youcantcompthis
Good pick up ad.

00:07:46.41
Adz
ah just Have a look at the card before you buy it. I'm i'm sure the seller was wrapped, but it's a pretty dirty move to to hide such a blatant bit of damage.

00:07:52.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:07:58.82
Adz
like that's that's Yeah, as we were saying, like joking about, I was bordering on a ah die cut. you like The corner is smushed in.

00:08:09.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:08:11.14
Adz
for Is it an iMac card? Was it a one of those?

00:08:13.50
youcantcompthis
NT.

00:08:13.85
Adz
Yeah, NT, yeah.

00:08:15.55
youcantcompthis
So apparently he bought it on eBay for like four grand pretty recently.

00:08:16.25
Adz
Mm.

00:08:22.45
youcantcompthis
So he made a decent flip out of it. So I think there's that part of it. And I think that you should declare damage that's done to cards. And I would say particularly in Facebook groups, eBay is definitely getting better because of the the guarantee that sellers buyers have now.

00:08:37.81
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:39.08
youcantcompthis
Most people I actually say will be pretty good about declaring damage that's on a card. And some sellers, I personally feel like they go overboard. They declare too much damage to the card to the point that like, you know, it's normal to have some minor surface problems with the card.

00:08:49.71
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:53.91
Adz
If you're buying, a car if you're buying a card raw, you expect it to be as pictured, right? And and you see pictures of the whole card or scans.

00:09:01.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:09:03.20
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:04.11
youcantcompthis
And, you know, to flip that around, there are some sellers that will um angle the card in a particular way to hide a scratch and and sell it that way.

00:09:15.52
Adz
Sure.

00:09:16.56
youcantcompthis
So, you know, it does go both ways, I suppose.

00:09:18.24
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:09:20.27
youcantcompthis
I think what really comes to my mind with this though is, and I think you touched on this before with the biopic negligent.

00:09:23.88
Adz
Mm

00:09:25.03
youcantcompthis
I think sometimes we do get a little bit blase in this space and you know we don't do a due diligence.

00:09:27.34
Adz
hmm. Yep.

00:09:30.85
youcantcompthis
I think online it it is definitely trickier because I bought a, this is a very low end like example, but a Herb Jones white sparkle from Optic.

00:09:41.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:43.39
youcantcompthis
And I didn't get it into my hands. I sent it directly to to grading.

00:09:48.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:49.26
youcantcompthis
There was no back picture. The front looked perfect.

00:09:52.19
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:09:52.37
youcantcompthis
The front look amazing. It all looks centered, all the rest of it, but actually came back PSA eight. When I flipped it over on the back, there's like a indentation on the back.

00:10:00.82
Adz
and In debt in the card. Yeah.

00:10:02.58
youcantcompthis
So I'm, I'm certain that's what like has taken it down.

00:10:02.58
Adz
Okay.

00:10:05.85
youcantcompthis
And actually I'm surprised it got an eight. I think the reason it did, cause the rest of the cards pretty good, but yeah.

00:10:09.61
Adz
So good. Yeah. Far out.

00:10:13.66
youcantcompthis
ah different.

00:10:14.16
Adz
Yeah.

00:10:14.36
youcantcompthis
It's a different situation, but at the same time, it's kind of the same same thing, you know, like when you're buying cards online, if the damage isn't disclosed, it's very hard to sort of pick it up sometimes.

00:10:17.29
Adz
ah Yeah.

00:10:22.12
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:10:24.54
youcantcompthis
Look, I think what I take away from this is, I think it really does matter who you deal with.

00:10:24.58
Adz
Yeah.

00:10:29.67
youcantcompthis
And I i feel like you do form trusted sellers and trusted buyers. So that's, you know, that's really big for me.

00:10:33.30
Adz
Yeah. Yep.

00:10:35.58
youcantcompthis
And I'm just going to add this to my imaginary list of ways to get scammed in the hobby. This is just another thing you you now need to like,

00:10:41.16
Adz
You know you're you're turning into the guy with the list, but for basketball cards.

00:10:46.29
youcantcompthis
I want to do that as a segment one day is like a joke segment, you know, ways to get scammed in the hobby.

00:10:50.25
Adz
have Have you seen the guy the guy with the list?

00:10:50.61
youcantcompthis
I think this has to be on the. No, you have to.

00:10:53.52
Adz
is it good is a guy and So there's a guy on Instagram and he's got um reasons girls won't date a guy.

00:10:56.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:00.71
youcantcompthis
Oh, yeah.

00:11:01.40
Adz
And it's like, oh, because they brush their hair to the left and you just see this list go down, but don't brush your hair to the left and just adds it. And he's up to like seven or 800 different things that he's not allowed to do.

00:11:15.94
Adz
We're like, yeah. ways you can get scammed in the hobby, number 436. Yep.

00:11:24.67
youcantcompthis
All right, WNBA news. Now, actually, this is old news, but I want to go this again, because actually, I think this is important. So Caitlin Clark. was signing with Topps. And I was under the impression that she, I knew she'd signed with Panini, but what I didn't realize was that she is now Panini exclusive.

00:11:36.32
Adz
Oh.

00:11:42.26
Adz
oh

00:11:42.66
youcantcompthis
So she won't be signing anymore with Topps, just with Panini. And for WNBA fans, what that means is that you'll be getting a lot of it.

00:11:53.00
youcantcompthis
And they've already made her own products, so I think they're going to overproduce this, but at the same time, When WNBA comes out, I think it's going to be ridiculous. We were speculating in our group chat the other day about this.

00:12:05.33
youcantcompthis
We think it's going to go up to like 800, 900 Australian dollars for a box of WNBA. And for context, that's about four three to four times higher than what it previously had been.

00:12:15.55
Adz
Mmm.

00:12:16.63
youcantcompthis
So it's it's a big jump. yeah

00:12:19.19
Adz
That's insane.

00:12:22.49
Adz
Wow.

00:12:22.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah, she's very, very popular. I think that's the best way to say it. All right.

00:12:27.65
Adz
CTE scanners, really?

00:12:28.05
youcantcompthis
CT scan is this again is going to be a really quick hitting one, but I think it's an important one. Yeah. So this is from Boston Card Hunter on Instagram and sports card madness pod.

00:12:36.78
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:40.05
Adz
Okay.

00:12:41.21
youcantcompthis
Basically he found a comment online, which he took a screenshot of and then posted on his to his Instagram. And essentially what he's alleging or trying to add to the body of evidence that, you know, we're now sort of accumulating in our heads is that someone was taking around a CT scanner and then multiple shops would come along and then 16 shops all at once would go in and, you know, CT scan their boxes.

00:13:07.31
youcantcompthis
So, yeah.

00:13:11.17
youcantcompthis
So I suppose this fits into the narrative that

00:13:11.39
Adz
Would you know I got your but buys time with a scanner from a hospital and

00:13:18.16
youcantcompthis
People have been doing it for a long time, but just we haven't known about it. And I think that was what some people were saying when all this sort of came out. Like it's, you know, it's been happening for a while. We're now just finding out about it. So.

00:13:34.56
youcantcompthis
um

00:13:34.73
Adz
That's insane.

00:13:36.02
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I gotta tell you, this doesn't super move the needle for me on this. um My thought on this is pretty concrete in that you can do all sorts of different things to try and manipulate and work out what's in packets.

00:13:48.75
Adz
Yeah, true.

00:13:49.33
youcantcompthis
But at the end of the day, you can get a heavy pack that's got an RPA in it. That's the worst RPA that you can get. Or you could get the lightest packet that's got a one of one. So you know what I mean?

00:14:00.11
Adz
yeah true

00:14:01.63
youcantcompthis
Like that's and they still haven't worked that part of it out yet. So yeah.

00:14:06.95
Adz
That's i just, and ah yeah, its it it it just baffles me. Like I get it, but far out.

00:14:13.13
youcantcompthis
When you say baffled, what do you mean?

00:14:15.34
Adz
Like the lengths people will go to. And and I guess the costs, the cost just seems ridiculous.

00:14:17.54
youcantcompthis
Sure. Yeah.

00:14:21.68
Adz
But yeah, I don't know.

00:14:22.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:14:23.32
Adz
Anyway, bizarre.

00:14:27.86
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, this one is actually breaking news ad. I think we'll do this and we'll go to a break.

00:14:31.72
Adz
That sounds good.

00:14:32.59
youcantcompthis
And it's been aggregated already multiple times, but let's use the 130 point aggregated post just because we love Lane. And he's an Aussie and he's flying the Australian flag hobby wise with pride.

00:14:40.03
Adz
Sure.

00:14:44.14
youcantcompthis
So thanks Lane for all that you do.

00:14:44.67
Adz
He is. he we probably We probably need to get in touch with um mid Lane and talk about that new app that's coming up.

00:14:53.01
youcantcompthis
I think we could try, but I think between him going to the Nationals and then going back to other conventions, he's got a bit on his plate at the moment. He might be too busy for us, Ad.

00:15:01.08
Adz
It's all right. but He's a Melbourne. isn't He's located in Melbourne. Surely we'll find some time. make some time, we'll camp outside of his house.

00:15:11.70
youcantcompthis
Word on the street, Lane, when Adam's joking.

00:15:12.07
Adz
We won't, we won't, we won't do that. but

00:15:15.66
youcantcompthis
We won't need another second cease and desease letter in two weeks, mate.

00:15:15.93
Adz
but

00:15:19.50
Adz
yeah

00:15:22.87
youcantcompthis
Word on the street is that Instagram user atzcollectorm has hit the wenby topschrome super factor auto. Assuming it's real, and I think that's a reference to the other fake one of one that we saw on eBay this week.

00:15:38.25
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:15:39.86
youcantcompthis
Assuming it's real, is he going to cash it in on the $1 million dollars bounty offered by jjubles?

00:15:49.55
youcantcompthis
I don't know. Would you sell that for a million bucks or would you hold onto it?

00:15:55.31
youcantcompthis
I can tell that my wife would say.

00:15:58.27
Adz
Of course, you're selling it.

00:15:59.73
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right. I am selling it.

00:16:01.98
Adz
um Yeah, that's a tricky one. I'm

00:16:10.18
Adz
It's the auto, you see. This is the this is the auto.

00:16:12.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:16:12.58
Adz
this is the This is why the discussion's different. i If I didn't need the money, I don't think I'd sell it.

00:16:22.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I actually think from a million, it can definitely go up. And I think also too, that I'm going to hold my thoughts a little bit here on this. It's the autograph that's important in TOPS.

00:16:32.18
Adz
Yep, yep, yep.

00:16:33.46
youcantcompthis
I want to talk more about this later on.

00:16:34.54
Adz
Is there a wonder, so you know, Don Ross should have had a one of one of the no water graph.

00:16:42.28
youcantcompthis
That's what I should have done.

00:16:42.75
Adz
And you just do, and they could compete.

00:16:44.76
youcantcompthis
They should have made those non autograph cards numbered.

00:16:45.94
Adz
then Well, the no one autograph.

00:16:48.69
youcantcompthis
At least you can have the chase on that, right?

00:16:50.54
Adz
Yeah, the one of one would have been, I might use different font for the no out autograph stamp.

00:16:55.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:16:59.76
youcantcompthis
Thank you to the Hobby Hangout for your ongoing support to our show.

00:17:05.20
Adz
Yeah.

00:17:06.45
youcantcompthis
It's been years. I think we can say that now.

00:17:08.58
Adz
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

00:17:09.49
youcantcompthis
And they've given us a lot of support and a lot of opportunity. So thank you so much. 17th of November at the Melbourne Pavilion, also in Sydney on the 1st of December at the Sydney Roundhouse.

00:17:18.32
Adz
Wow.

00:17:22.81
youcantcompthis
So get your tickets at So it's actually not at, just go to your web browser and type in the hobby hangout dot.com.au. I'm so used to saying at now with Twitter and Instagram.

00:17:34.22
Adz
Yeah, everything's at this, at that.

00:17:36.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:17:37.29
Adz
Add on YouTube, add on Twitter, add on, yeah, everybody.

00:17:40.38
youcantcompthis
pre-sales have the opportunity to go into a $500 raffle for a prize. Get in and get your pre-sales before that all gets exhausted.

00:17:51.28
youcantcompthis
Once it's exhausted, that's it.

00:17:51.70
Adz
Mmm.

00:17:52.88
youcantcompthis
You're out of the running for the $500 prize.

00:17:55.98
Adz
Yep.

00:17:56.40
youcantcompthis
Also, every person that goes in We'll also be getting a party back this year, which I'm actually think that's a really positive forward step for the I think that something could have been done for a couple of years.

00:18:04.56
Adz
Mmm.

00:18:08.94
youcantcompthis
So that is a really good implementation by the guys. We'll be there doing a live podcast. There will be live breaks. There'll be panels. There'll be all the different tables.

00:18:19.81
youcantcompthis
I'm just going to read off some at random here. McLaren cards. Shield stamps. Stanbrook cards. Stasis collectibles. That's a um science slash physics reference I'm assuming there.

00:18:32.96
Adz
Mmm.

00:18:33.20
youcantcompthis
Back issue comics. Gamers combined. The boys at Fast Break will be there. In Sydney we've got Card Fever. Peter's goat cards. Pops galore. I'm assuming they're selling pops. They're not basketball cards. Just in case. Jake's breaks. Good games. Gold Coast and breakneck collectibles. Check it out, guys. You'll have a fantastic time.

00:18:58.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:19:01.11
youcantcompthis
And we'll be there and we've been talking about doing a table and some trading zones. I think that will be.

00:19:05.79
Adz
Yeah, we're looking at it's spicing things up on the um on the you can't comp this front, and maybe yes some some engagement with the but the the masses.

00:19:09.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:19:18.39
Adz
Maybe sit at a table, give out give it some and i might have some stickers. Is that what we're we're we're trying to line up for the people?

00:19:26.19
youcantcompthis
Let's not promise anything we can't deliver it. Always um under under promise and over deliver.

00:19:31.59
Adz
All right, I'll have a pack of penny sleeves. The first 100 people will get one.

00:19:34.79
youcantcompthis
You can have one. Only one though, guys.

00:19:36.22
Adz
One. I've only got the one pack to go.

00:19:38.13
youcantcompthis
And we'll be keeping a list. So no coming back for two.

00:19:42.36
Adz
One per person.

00:19:43.08
youcantcompthis
yeah That's right.

00:19:45.35
Adz
Oh, who knows? We'll brainstorm some stuff and maybe, yeah, we'll um have some stuff to put in your goodie bag. Who knows?

00:19:54.05
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, let's go to a break mate. We'll be right back.

00:20:02.41
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, we are back. We are gonna do... a little bit of tops chrome breakdown because really this should have been um the first thing, the first cab off the rank. Like realistically, this is the biggest story of the week. However, I just wanted to mix it up a little bit and just sort of do some general news first. So I think the first thing we should do that ad is just do some impressions. What's your impressions of this product?

00:20:35.44
youcantcompthis
How do you feel about it?

00:20:35.54
Adz
It's my, wow.

00:20:37.23
youcantcompthis
Where are you at with topscrew? I've written a list of notes. So I sat there and watched breaks with like a student studying for his exam, to be honest.

00:20:41.54
Adz
A list of notes, I've done a little.

00:20:47.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:20:48.28
Adz
Now I wasn't quite that studious, but I did do more research than I normally do. I went and search searched eBay, looked for some some cards off the checklist, sort of get a, try and get a feel for it.

00:20:54.27
youcantcompthis
Excellent. ye Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:01.93
Adz
um I don't want to be overly critical because I know the licensing stuff is still an issue with releasing product, right?

00:21:09.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:21:10.88
Adz
But it's definitely the biggest deterrent for me is the uniforms.

00:21:13.51
youcantcompthis
Sure. Yeah. Okay.

00:21:16.61
Adz
That's that's my impression is I like a lot of the cards, but the uniform thing is irking me.

00:21:16.80
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:21:23.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely. And it stands out like a sore thumb. I think that's the really obvious thing that comes out when you look

00:21:27.43
Adz
Yeah, well, ah I went through, this is ah this was not really a segue into it, but sort of drilling down onto my issue with it. When I looked at, I tried to look at the insert sets to see if there are any that really stood out that I liked.

00:21:42.38
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:21:42.61
Adz
And there was a, ah some I think it's called the Helix, which seems like ah a rip off of a color blast, but we'll go down that. But it was CJ McCollum, and he was in tracksuit pants.

00:21:55.22
Adz
Like he was in a war, he was in warmup trackies. in your like pelicans colors, but it's tacky.

00:22:01.39
youcantcompthis
Some of it's super, it's super weird, isn't it?

00:22:04.52
Adz
Like get a good shot of the guy.

00:22:04.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:22:07.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:22:08.49
Adz
I don't know.

00:22:09.02
youcantcompthis
I agree with you. Yeah.

00:22:10.23
Adz
So that's that's probably, there's my biggest biggest criticism and I know they can't they can't help it. um But I feel like they need to put more work into fixing that. They needed to put more work into fixing that.

00:22:19.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:23.13
Adz
Yeah.

00:22:24.21
youcantcompthis
All righty. So for me, the first thing I noticed was there's just no team name. So it it says Boston, but it doesn't say Boston Celtics. So again, that's a licensing thing.

00:22:31.68
Adz
Ah.

00:22:33.35
youcantcompthis
The thing I do like about that, at least you know what team it is. So if it's a PYT break, then there's no arguments.

00:22:38.54
Adz
Hmm.

00:22:39.14
youcantcompthis
So, for example, if a player played for multiple teams, like Shaq, for example, you know, it's Shaq Miami.

00:22:42.92
Adz
Yeah.

00:22:45.49
youcantcompthis
Like that's a good, for me, that's a really good thing.

00:22:47.36
Adz
Yeah, that's fair enough. That's good. That's very that's a very good.

00:22:49.22
youcantcompthis
The no logo, the empty jersey, that definitely stood out to me.

00:22:49.92
Adz
Yeah. Mm hmm.

00:22:54.25
youcantcompthis
And the thing that I've really I've been thinking about as I was looking at the cards was they could have done more to compensate for it because the other thing they've done too is they've photoshopped the player out from the background. So there's no action shot photo going on.

00:23:07.70
Adz
No risk of yet.

00:23:07.98
youcantcompthis
It's literally It's just an artwork, you know, in the background. And for me, I find that a little bit underwhelming. And I think the reason is because there's not a lot of contrast there.

00:23:16.39
Adz
Mmm.

00:23:16.67
youcantcompthis
That's actually the thing that comes through it. They just look a little bit bland because of lack of contrast. So that's that. The interesting thing that has been coming out, I've watched a couple of different breaks.

00:23:27.11
youcantcompthis
I feel like people haven't agreed on what they're calling the silvers yet. So some people are calling them prisms, some people are calling them refractors. I feel like that's something that maybe we just need to you know adjust to.

00:23:37.42
youcantcompthis
That's not like a really big deal. ah You spoke about before about the ripoff for the thing. So the other thing I saw that was a ripoff was the purple. That to me just looks like exactly like a mosaic print.

00:23:48.83
youcantcompthis
And for me, that's a little bit

00:23:48.83
Adz
Yeah, true.

00:23:51.35
youcantcompthis
You know, I love mosaics. so That was a little bit sort of came, you know, to my heart.

00:23:55.19
Adz
Yeah.

00:23:55.31
youcantcompthis
Now, i've I've got a question here and the question is, why should we buy unlicensed? So for me personally, I just want to take this back to the draft product and what what were the reasons why that I bought the draft product.

00:24:10.18
youcantcompthis
So.

00:24:10.91
Adz
Cool inserts.

00:24:13.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I like the inserts. But I probably liked just looking through the play sets more because I didn't know the college product.

00:24:20.24
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:20.37
youcantcompthis
The other thing was when I was buying draft product, the NBA product was so expensive, I just couldn't justify the outlay on a hobby box.

00:24:24.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:29.04
youcantcompthis
And looking back, you know, it was the wrong thing to do to buy sealed. prison drop product because yeah the value drop on that is just exponential you know what are you gonna sell those cards for now maybe you know one or two dollars unless you got a. The downtown card or some of that but anyway that's another story but.

00:24:46.25
Adz
yeah

00:24:47.06
youcantcompthis
It's the same sort of thing. So why are you buying unlicensed cards? So for me, it's really stands out like a sore thumb. It's the autographs. And I think there are good reasons to buy this product. So, for example, obviously you've got Wembley autographs.

00:25:00.22
youcantcompthis
That doesn't need to be said. But what about Brandon Miller? What about Scoot Henderson? You know, all those autographs that we didn't get in prison. I think I don't want unlicensed product.

00:25:08.87
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:10.08
youcantcompthis
However, I do want an autograph. So I will look past the fact that It isn't a licensed product on that. And I think the other one too, and this is just stating the obvious now, is LeBron James autographs.

00:25:20.96
youcantcompthis
Like I think the potential to get a LeBron autograph, that is enough for me to go on to buy it.

00:25:27.45
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:27.82
youcantcompthis
But where I'm going with this though, is I think that the top shelf in this product is really, really high. It's it's a very high top shelf. There's a little bit to feast on in the middle, a little bit of sort of snacks there.

00:25:40.12
youcantcompthis
And then after that, it's just like a descent down into like an abyss because I really, What I really worry about or wonder about.

00:25:50.75
youcantcompthis
with this product is like, what's the resale going to be on every other card that's in the box? So you talk about the inserts before. So I wrote down a ah list of the inserts, the film study around the world, the sudden impact, the round ball royalty. I gave those inserts at most six out of 10 for their aesthetics. Like there's nothing there that's like, I want to go out and chase these inserts, you know, for that.

00:26:16.02
youcantcompthis
The only thing that I'm just trying to make arguments against my own sort of thing here is if it's a PC. So, for example, if you see you're the guy that you love the most.

00:26:25.09
Adz
Yep.

00:26:26.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I can imagine that you would go out and and buy them afterwards. And that's probably again.

00:26:30.40
Adz
ah there Are there any insert sets you liked?

00:26:33.72
youcantcompthis
um ah Maybe the film study, that's one that I put at number one. So.

00:26:37.63
Adz
I had Superfly.

00:26:39.28
youcantcompthis
OK.

00:26:40.00
Adz
I like the Superfly. I don't know what it is. It's got a retro feel to it. Maybe that's that's where i' that's where my head's at with the the cards in this set.

00:26:47.29
youcantcompthis
No, and I'm not trying to sit here and say this is trash, but what I'm saying is I think this is like PC only. And I think the better way to do it is probably going to be is to wait.

00:26:52.44
Adz
Mmm.

00:26:55.39
youcantcompthis
If you want to go in breaks and you enjoy going, I'm not trying to talk you about it. Go in as many breaks as you can and then you can afford and have a good time. But I think another play actually might be is for the, unless it's the super high end stuff, just wait for it to come out on eBay and I think you'll pick it up pretty cheap.

00:27:11.72
youcantcompthis
That's the gut feeling I'm, I'm getting from this, you know.

00:27:14.28
Adz
um Looking early, early, early looks at um eBay, you're right.

00:27:15.32
youcantcompthis
So.

00:27:19.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:27:20.10
Adz
If you're patient, you might you might just snag yourself a couple of bargains.

00:27:22.72
youcantcompthis
I didn't even look at comp, so I just, I just feel like that's how this is going to play out. Do you know what I mean? It's, it's not that, it's not that good. You know, the autographs are amazing.

00:27:32.85
youcantcompthis
Like that's, it's a home run, but I feel like the artwork, they really need to like fix this up a little bit and it might all change once they get the licensing.

00:27:34.94
Adz
Mmm. Yeah.

00:27:42.23
youcantcompthis
I do agree with you. Like this is just, it's their first go. You know, it's going to take them some time to get all this,

00:27:47.48
Adz
It's their first go without a license.

00:27:50.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:27:50.97
Adz
they'renna They're gonna have the license and they'll be able to to show everything.

00:27:53.31
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:27:56.28
Adz
They'll be able to have backgrounds that are proper. They'll be able to have action shots. All the things that they're lacking, they will have in future releases.

00:28:04.54
youcantcompthis
I hope that's how it plays out. be And, you know, I'm really, I'm trying to be optimistic here because for the next 10 years, this is what we're getting. You know, like we kind of have to hope for the best here.

00:28:13.47
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:28:14.94
youcantcompthis
so

00:28:14.95
Adz
When does the license, okay, so so when does, because we're not far off 2025.

00:28:22.25
youcantcompthis
So there's one more year of panini and then the year after that, they come in.

00:28:24.73
Adz
One more year if at any, far out.

00:28:26.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:28:29.45
Adz
So the 24-25 season, yeah we're getting in trouble for this, we yeah.

00:28:31.93
youcantcompthis
Geez, now I don't want to get another cease and desist. We better um just put a tight foot stamp here and yeah. And let's just, ah we'll have a timeout.

00:28:40.05
Adz
I'm happy to put my head on the block for a second cease and desist order. I'll make jokes about it too, don't you worry. um

00:28:48.92
Adz
Yeah, it'll be not it'll just be nice to see we once once they're not restricted.

00:29:13.80
Adz
I'm going to take a screen grab of this CJ McCollum that I'm referring to and send you to send you the phone.

00:29:23.78
Adz
Oh goodness gracious.

00:30:09.86
Adz
I think you're right. I think it's the 2526 season.

00:30:15.39
youcantcompthis
yeah Yeah, let's go with that.

00:30:19.78
youcantcompthis
We can, I'll take another hit for the team. Yeah, let's go with that. That's right. ah Do you mind um chopping this down? Actually, ah I can edit the podcasters.

00:30:26.67
Adz
Oh, I'll cut it. Oh, ill yeah no oh, yeah.

00:30:28.30
youcantcompthis
You can do it. Okay, sweet. Thanks. yeah Thanks. Thank you. All right.

00:30:31.73
Adz
Yep.

00:30:33.04
youcantcompthis
Should we just keep going?

00:30:34.10
Adz
yep

00:30:35.65
youcantcompthis
All right, so that's pretty much everything off my list. The last thing I did put on there, though, is the different variants of the products. So there's hobby, they've got their own version of choice, which is basically just all, let's call them refractors, because that's the top's word, I'm pretty sure.

00:30:43.57
Adz
Mm. Yep.

00:30:52.47
youcantcompthis
And then they've also got these sort of hanger boxes, which are pretty interesting.

00:30:56.29
Adz
Hmm.

00:30:59.14
youcantcompthis
So, you know, and again, I think, you know, people were hoping that tops were going to fix the the hobby and all this type of stuff. But when I look at that, all I can really get through my head is just the amount of you know volume that they're printing out.

00:31:14.47
Adz
Yeah.

00:31:15.57
youcantcompthis
And in my mind, that's not so different to what Pinini's been doing the last couple of years. So, you know, look, at my first look at this, I'm cautiously optimistic, but at the same time, there's nothing here that's truly, you know, groundbreaking from fanatics. This is all, you know, whatever. All righty. That's enough of my little passive aggressive winch fest against fanatics.

00:31:41.08
Adz
I don't know, I thought there was some interesting, you you make a very good point about they weren't trying to disguise, not the like the uniform stuff.

00:31:51.13
Adz
And I think there are ways to disguise it. The reason I pointed out the Superfly insert set is because I feel like they did disguise it there.

00:31:57.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:58.58
Adz
Do you know what I mean? Like the Magic magic Johnson's behind, Like it's purple and gold, but it's he's behind the the artwork. And SGA's got a Superfly card.

00:32:10.66
Adz
And it's got his number two, obviously doesn't have OKC across it, but it doesn't, the the busyness of the card doesn't, doesn't draw you into the fact that it's not an OKC jersey, if that makes sense.

00:32:21.33
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but I wonder if that works because there is enough to distract you away from it. And that's why when I look at the the base cards, to me, it's very plain.

00:32:29.38
Adz
The base cards are are terrifying, yeah.

00:32:31.66
youcantcompthis
It's like plain uniform, no logo, and then this sort of lack of contrast in the background. It's just like literally just a piece of cardboard.

00:32:37.68
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:39.30
youcantcompthis
You know, I think that's where I sit with that. Yeah.

00:32:41.85
Adz
The other the other ones, I mean, i ah to give some honourable mentions, I do like the Destiny lot. I do like Sudden Impact. he um well

00:32:52.03
youcantcompthis
Would you chase the set of that?

00:32:53.99
Adz
Maybe, maybe.

00:32:55.18
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:32:56.04
Adz
um The one I wanted to give a shout out to, and you said the autos are great, I would like to draw specific attention to the 1972 auto set.

00:33:07.80
Adz
They are great.

00:33:09.20
youcantcompthis
We need to get some of these up on socials this week.

00:33:09.27
Adz
Like they've got the old school. um

00:33:14.58
Adz
Yeah, i' I'll get a few screenshots and ill I'll send them through to you, but there's like ah a Larry Bird.

00:33:19.86
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:33:21.57
Adz
um And the auto is over the, like, you know what I mean? Like it's, the autograph is over the top of the,

00:33:33.18
Adz
where the jersey would be, so it's a headshot.

00:33:35.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:33:35.31
Adz
It's got the auto, and it's got that small to large text, like in the 70s.

00:33:39.87
youcantcompthis
Cool. Yeah.

00:33:42.24
Adz
It's an interesting little, yeah, it's ah it's a play on it.

00:33:45.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:33:47.08
Adz
And I think they've done some clever stuff with the tools that there yeah with the tools at their disposal,

00:33:48.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right. It's not all stinking. Yeah.

00:33:53.69
Adz
which is very limited. I think they've they've tried to do a good job. So I'll give them props for that.

00:34:00.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah, give them an encouragement award. ad I think that's what it's called these days.

00:34:03.90
Adz
participation trophy this year, because they, until, until they're allowed to really run in.

00:34:05.39
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right. A participation trophy here.

00:34:10.94
youcantcompthis
And an absolute shitload of cash too.

00:34:11.61
Adz
ah Yeah.

00:34:13.27
youcantcompthis
I'm sure they'll be getting for it. So, you know, yeah.

00:34:14.53
Adz
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

00:34:21.47
Adz
Yes. That's, that's the, that was, uh, that's in the contract. Isn't it and an absolute shitload of cash?

00:34:26.50
youcantcompthis
That's right. Yeah.

00:34:27.10
Adz
Yeah.

00:34:27.46
youcantcompthis
Monopolize the whole thing. All righty. Market Movers app. We've talked about these guys before. They're on Instagram. Absolutely follow them up. So they just do some good content. So what this post is all about is what were the first sales of Wembley cards?

00:34:41.47
youcantcompthis
So the silver rookie prism for Wembley was 883.

00:34:45.98
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:34:46.47
youcantcompthis
The last sale was 530. So we've had a bit of downward movement there. Now the first silver or refractor, whichever word you want to use, out of Top's Chrome was $420, which is both less than obviously that massive sale up the top there.

00:34:55.58
Adz
Yeah.

00:35:02.99
Adz
Yes.

00:35:04.40
youcantcompthis
Now really interesting, and this is probably the one that I wanted to talk to you about.

00:35:10.25
youcantcompthis
This is from the Lameme James.

00:35:12.62
Adz
Here's your favorite account to follow at the moment.

00:35:13.44
youcantcompthis
Now, yeah, oh

00:35:17.34
Adz
One of.

00:35:18.94
youcantcompthis
yeah I definitely like Lameme James, but probably my favorite, putting him on the spot.

00:35:27.60
youcantcompthis
it that basketball card magazine that I quite like and and his content about the different, it's Adam, yep, with the auctions.

00:35:31.09
Adz
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:35.40
youcantcompthis
I find him quite informative, particularly when I've got a big hole where a lot of his basketball knowledge is.

00:35:36.47
Adz
Hmm.

00:35:40.80
youcantcompthis
I think that's the other thing too. Yeah. Anyway, back to the little meme James. So this is showing eBay sales of base prisms and then also base tops Chrome.

00:35:50.16
Adz
Yep.

00:35:53.98
youcantcompthis
So the base prisms are selling at the moment for $30 and the tops Chrome are trading at 88 to 109. So. I think this is a good conversation to be had for two reasons. One, obviously things are very high at the moment because it's it's a new product. And then two, I think we speak about this with, you know, rookies from two years ago. Is it actually a good time to go back and pick up things later on when things have cooled down a little bit?

00:36:23.59
youcantcompthis
So if you're looking to buy when be based rookies, I think now's a really good time at $30. I think that's actually a very good pickup. Would I be buying the tops cream at 88 with no logo on it and it's just a base like definitely not like stay away from it, but I don't, yeah, I don't think to it really matters to be honest.

00:36:30.26
Adz
Yeah, probably not. It's got a rookie shield on it. That's not the official one. That's the tops one.

00:36:48.01
youcantcompthis
Like I think if you can get the actual rookie card for $28,

00:36:51.50
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, I think we've we is discussed that the point of differentiation between the TOPS product and the PRISM product is an autograph, then the base card's really, yeah, it's a good point.

00:37:03.03
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:37:04.06
Adz
ah There was an interesting comment on that Lameem James post, and it's like, who in their right mind would buy a base card of an unlicensed product on release day for $100?

00:37:08.46
youcantcompthis
Talk to me.

00:37:14.96
Adz
This card's gonna be in value boxes at every show in the country within a month.

00:37:19.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, there's going to be a heap of it.

00:37:21.72
Adz
It's probably not a $100 card,

00:37:24.19
youcantcompthis
So can I be devil's advocate there?

00:37:26.42
Adz
Sure.

00:37:27.62
youcantcompthis
Some people don't like breaks.

00:37:31.86
Adz
Yeah, agreed.

00:37:33.22
youcantcompthis
So instead of spending that one hundred dollars on a break spot, maybe you get something delicious. Maybe you get a pocket full of sand. Then you get the first base card on release, you know, and that's what that guy wanted.

00:37:44.14
Adz
and Okay.

00:37:45.17
youcantcompthis
I.

00:37:46.08
Adz
but Yeah, i can I can get behind that. That makes sense.

00:37:49.16
youcantcompthis
Like you can talk to people in the hobby that are like spending money in breaks is ah not always the best thing for you.

00:37:56.24
Adz
Sure.

00:37:56.38
youcantcompthis
You know? Yep. So I'm actually not going to kickstand at that dude at all.

00:37:59.59
Adz
Agreed.

00:38:01.42
youcantcompthis
Like, you know what? That's what you want to spend your $100 on. It's, you know.

00:38:05.55
Adz
Yeah.

00:38:06.43
youcantcompthis
to's fine Alrighty, now this next one is a little bit of an education piece. If you are already into baseball and all this type of stuff, you're going to know this already. So this is the Topps Chrome Joshua Giddy Frozen Fractor. Now you get one base per box. So if you've watched a couple of breaks, you'll see these come out. They almost look like a negative from a photograph.

00:38:27.72
youcantcompthis
Now the prism ones look absolutely fantastic and then you've also got the uniquely sequentially numbered base parallel known for their extreme rarity and unique numbering system.

00:38:33.98
Adz
Mmm.

00:38:39.26
youcantcompthis
So because they're a frozen fracta, each card in this set is numbered sub-zero such as minus one, minus two, minus three, minus four and minus five, which adds a cool factor to these.

00:38:53.44
youcantcompthis
I actually think that's a cool little twist. I think that's fun. I think that's good. And one thing that I actually like, and I've always never understood why Pinini don't do this, number of card to one, number to two, number to three, to four and five, like why go one, five, 10, 15 or, and then they do funny numbers these days, like 38 and 49.

00:39:15.51
youcantcompthis
Like I've never really understood all that type of stuff. So I don't mind this at all.

00:39:18.36
Adz
it's It's a bit weird.

00:39:19.94
youcantcompthis
For my OCD, this fits in quite nicely actually. Numbers in a row, Adam. This is good, you know?

00:39:25.06
Adz
You're not rainbow chasing.

00:39:26.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah. No, I'm definitely not rainbow chasing that stuff.

00:39:33.86
Adz
Yeah.

00:39:34.14
youcantcompthis
Alrighty. Topps probe blasters. This next one is this young man, John Hull. This is from sports cards nonsense.

00:39:45.86
youcantcompthis
He hit out of a $30 blaster, the 8 out of 55 on-card autographed future stars by Victor Webignon. You would be absolutely hand-shaking like a breaker, wouldn't you, if you hit that for yourself out of a blaster?

00:40:03.58
Adz
isn't it Is it a redemption coupon or is it an actual auto? Is it in the pack?

00:40:08.60
youcantcompthis
I don't think he could have possibly redeemed that that quickly.

00:40:12.33
Adz
Yeah, true. That's insane.

00:40:15.87
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:40:16.17
Adz
I also can't see the post because of Facebook not liking me.

00:40:21.62
youcantcompthis
I wonder if you're not on the sports cards and nonsense page.

00:40:24.14
Adz
No, no, I'm i'm um um'm well and truly, I've joined.

00:40:31.22
youcantcompthis
Can we have a timeout again?

00:40:31.20
Adz
Interesting.

00:40:33.98
Adz
yeah Yeah.

00:40:35.58
youcantcompthis
um But that's the second time that's happened. Do you know what I mean?

00:40:40.98
Adz
It's said like I'm in the thing and it's like I'm joined.

00:40:44.90
youcantcompthis
So weird.

00:40:48.13
youcantcompthis
How many breaks have we had? We only had one break today, haven't we?

00:40:50.83
Adz
We've only had the one. Where would you for another one?

00:40:52.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we'll say timeout and break.

00:40:55.90
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:59.03
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, let's go to our second break of today and thank you to Ross, Torton and Team at US Sports Cards Australia for your pledge of support for at least the next 12 months or so. Thank you so much Ross for your support and keeping our lights turned on.

00:41:17.57
youcantcompthis
You will find Ross at ussportscardsaustralia.com.au. You can find their singles for sale, hobby boxes for sale, sports memorabilia. I know Ross was talking about getting some breaks up there too. so Check on that out there. Also, if you're looking for water pistols, you'll find them out. But Ross's main baby is what he calls COMCA, which is essentially the same process as COMCA in America, but it's in Australia. So you send all of your cards to Ross in Australia. He will put them all onto his web page.

00:41:53.12
youcantcompthis
people buy your cards, he sends you out the money and it's literally as simple as that. So to find COMCA, go to ussportscardsaustralia.com.au, click on COMCA and it'll take you straight there where you can start browsing through people's cards and he's populating more and more cards into it every single day. So definitely check that out and thank you to US Sports Cards Australia for your support.

00:42:21.56
youcantcompthis
All righty. We are back, Adam. How are you feeling, buddy?

00:42:33.79
Adz
I'm good, I'm good. I'm i'm i'm now off mute. um

00:42:39.40
youcantcompthis
We're professionals here.

00:42:41.42
Adz
Professionals, exactly.

00:42:43.86
youcantcompthis
alrighty Alrighty. Now, I was holding my my thoughts of this for a little bit later on the show, and this is what I'm holding it for. Why would you go in and buy this product? It's for these cards here, the Lebron James. CG-LBJ, tops chrome autograph, refractor gold parallel. So congratulations to the young man who hit this. I honestly am really, really happy for you. I personally,

00:43:13.37
youcantcompthis
I'm really excited about seeing LeBron James autographs coming back into product. I really think that the last 10 years or 20 years, we've been deprived of LeBron autographs.

00:43:21.97
Adz
Hmm.

00:43:25.70
youcantcompthis
so um I think this is huge for the hobby. I think this is a really you know good thing.

00:43:31.44
Adz
Yep.

00:43:31.57
youcantcompthis
I have no idea what the price of Lakers PYT is going to be, but I think it's going to be absolutely huge. And yeah I think everyone just really wins from this I don't really have too much really to say about this other than you know I'm just really excited to see LeBron back into it so and I'm not the biggest LeBron fan either I'm more a LeBron appreciate I think that's where if there's different categories

00:43:46.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:53.90
Adz
LeBron Appreciator.

00:43:55.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I appreciate him for what he does.

00:43:56.11
Adz
I like it.

00:43:57.14
youcantcompthis
You know, like, I think he's a good guy.

00:43:57.44
Adz
I like it.

00:43:58.70
youcantcompthis
I think, you know, he's got his schools and all the donations and stuff.

00:44:00.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:01.83
youcantcompthis
Like, I think he's a good role model. Is he my favorite basketball player? Like, he's probably not top 10, you know?

00:44:06.01
Adz
Mmm.

00:44:07.64
youcantcompthis
So, yeah.

00:44:09.29
Adz
Yep.

00:44:09.69
youcantcompthis
I mean, my favorite LeBron James moment was when he said, I'm taking my talents to South Beach. Like, that's sort of where I sit with him.

00:44:15.03
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:16.81
youcantcompthis
Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

00:44:17.75
Adz
For sure, for sure.

00:44:18.74
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Any comments from you on this?

00:44:22.58
Adz
Oh, look, it's just nice to see LeBron signing again, really, isn't it?

00:44:24.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely.

00:44:25.68
Adz
it's um I think it's cool.

00:44:26.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:44:27.58
Adz
I think it's lets only positive for the hobby.

00:44:32.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right. This next one is from top. So get onto them and follow them on Instagram. They're actually a pretty good follow. Uh, I just want to talk to you about this first card. So you'll see, this is the certified rookie autograph issue of a Victor or women Yana, but let's not talk about Victor so much. What I want to talk to you about is the certified rookie autograph stamp that's on it. And then also the RC logo.

00:45:01.52
youcantcompthis
and the artwork that's behind it. Where are you at with, first of all, the certified rookie stamp, the rookie logo, and then just the aesthetics of that card.

00:45:10.43
Adz
Which one's this? the This is the one where he's done little drawings and stuff as well.

00:45:18.15
youcantcompthis
Do you want time out again?

00:45:19.31
Adz
Yep, because I can't, half of these links I can't look at.

00:45:21.25
youcantcompthis
40, so 45, um, 45, 25. I'll just write it next to it. 45, 25.

00:45:29.09
Adz
Yeah, this summary.

00:45:29.37
youcantcompthis
So the link, the link is top tops Chrome summary.

00:45:30.58
Adz
Oh, I got the Blaze one. Yeah.

00:45:32.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:45:32.39
Adz
ah

00:45:32.64
youcantcompthis
So tops Chrome summary. Yeah.

00:45:34.25
Adz
Ah, the Instagram ones I can see. Good.

00:45:36.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah. You should be able to see that.

00:45:36.83
Adz
All of the Facebook ones, I can't see.

00:45:37.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:45:38.83
Adz
It's like your, when you share the link, it won't let me see what you saw. It's weird.

00:45:44.65
youcantcompthis
Which, which is the next one you can't see.

00:45:47.29
Adz
Anything that was Facebook oriented. Like the LeBron one, I had to go and search for the post.

00:45:52.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right. Okay.

00:45:53.30
Adz
Yep.

00:45:53.48
youcantcompthis
I think, I think the rest of it should be okay. I'm just looking through, through all the links.

00:45:57.82
Adz
Cool. I'm just like, if there's anything that's Facebook based, I might struggle with it.

00:45:59.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:02.46
youcantcompthis
That's okay. That's fine. I'll just leave it there. Yeah. No, I think the rest, you're going to be fine though, mate.

00:46:04.68
Adz
Yep. Sweet, I've got this one.

00:46:07.79
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:46:08.01
Adz
I was just on the wrong, I was on the blessed one.

00:46:10.53
youcantcompthis
That's okay. Yep. So yeah. What's your thoughts on the certified rookie logo?

00:46:16.59
Adz
Okay, so that's the last image. Yeah, the, I don't know, certified rookie autograph. It's just like certified auto, rookie auto, and then a little rookie card thing. It's like,

00:46:28.52
Adz
And it says rookie, it says rookie above Victor Wembenjana's name. So there's three different sightings there of where it says rookie, actually no, there's a strip across. If anyone's confused about this card being a rookie card, one, two, three, four, there's four instances of the word rookie and an RC shield.

00:46:53.25
youcantcompthis
So my thought on that is that it's unnecessary.

00:46:56.01
Adz
ah

00:46:57.61
youcantcompthis
And so my next thought goes to, well, you know, why? Like, so what would make them do that? I wonder if this is sort of them overcompensating for the fact that it's an unlicensed product, that you need to give people the reassurance that this is a certified rookie autograph and, and maybe also, but maybe also too, they're sticking it to Patini a little bit.

00:47:12.89
Adz
Oh, is that, is that, ah, that's ah it's a certified rookie one.

00:47:20.11
Adz
Are they though? Is this really sticking into Panini?

00:47:21.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah. But any don't have their autographs right like tops do you know the kind of like sticking their tongue out of them a little bit you know.

00:47:23.41
Adz
I feel like overdoing it, yeah. That's true, that's true.

00:47:30.76
youcantcompthis
ah

00:47:30.67
Adz
Well, it says certified rookie autograph, got it, but it says rookie more than anything else. We get it, it's a rookie card.

00:47:36.58
youcantcompthis
So I think this is falls into the debate of which is the real rookie card.

00:47:41.44
Adz
Ooh.

00:47:42.67
youcantcompthis
So for me, the prism is the real rookie card, but this is the real rookie autograph.

00:47:46.58
Adz
I agree.

00:47:48.94
youcantcompthis
So I think that's where currently I'm lying at. I'll be easily convinced to change my mind on this, but this is where I'm at. This is clearly the rookie autographs and I'm definitely going to be chasing some of the rookies autographs that's in these sets.

00:47:58.24
Adz
Mmm.

00:48:04.17
youcantcompthis
Absolutely.

00:48:05.74
Adz
The Superfly also looks pretty, pretty awesome. Just gonna say.

00:48:09.53
youcantcompthis
Can I be honest with you? I'm not that I, I'm not fussed about the inserts at all, but definitely I'll be trying to pick up a couple of the autographs out of this. Yeah.

00:48:17.58
Adz
i don't know I like I like the I like the I do like the inserts.

00:48:17.85
youcantcompthis
yeah But enough to spend cash on it. That's the thing, right?

00:48:22.87
Adz
Hello. Alright, so actually in that in that post in that Instagram post, if you go back to the 1972 autograph of when be that's ah that's the thing that's the one I like the that's the design and I think that they've hidden the unlicensed factor in these.

00:48:24.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:48:31.65
youcantcompthis
Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool.

00:48:42.26
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:48:43.63
Adz
And I think they've done really, really well. Yeah.

00:48:45.61
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's that's a cool looking card. I'm fine with that. I like that better than the base card.

00:48:51.10
Adz
Mm, it's got that retro feel about it.

00:48:52.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:48:53.74
Adz
You remember like when Flea Retro came out and they did the the old school stuff, like that the the little throwbacks, I guess.

00:49:03.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Which rookie logo do you like better?

00:49:04.15
Adz
Yeah.

00:49:06.32
youcantcompthis
The Prism one or the Topscrew?

00:49:09.75
Adz
Prison.

00:49:10.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think that looks really lousy. I hope they, yeah, I really hope they revised that quick sticks.

00:49:13.52
Adz
The RC with the basketball under it.

00:49:18.03
Adz
Um, we're, I'm gonna, we're gonna risk getting another cease and desist. That's trash.

00:49:22.48
youcantcompthis
I hope we do get a cease and desist from them.

00:49:23.73
Adz
That is, that is, that's, that's garbage. Seriously.

00:49:27.48
youcantcompthis
I mean, that's fact, that's not even um speculation.

00:49:32.36
Adz
That's, um, yeah, that was pretty, pretty ordinary.

00:49:36.72
youcantcompthis
All righty.

00:49:41.43
youcantcompthis
tops chrome at Bles sports cards, they hit the one out of five. Now, I don't normally show you breakers cards and pump up particular breakers, but you know, players, they do some pretty cool stuff.

00:49:55.97
youcantcompthis
The reason I actually put this into the sheet ad is the way that he's autographed the card.

00:49:59.02
Adz
oh

00:50:00.93
youcantcompthis
He's put a bit of time into autographing it. Then on top of that, he's drawn a little alien face and it looks like a planet that could be satin with rings around it. So 10 out of 10 for me on this autograph, again,

00:50:14.30
Adz
I like it. He's telling us which planet he's from.

00:50:16.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Again, you know, we're talking about, are you actually willing to put your money into this? Yes, I would put my money into that. I think that's a really cool looking card.

00:50:25.68
Adz
Mmm.

00:50:26.63
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:50:27.70
Adz
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

00:50:28.11
youcantcompthis
I like it a lot. Yeah.

00:50:29.41
Adz
That's pretty cool.

00:50:29.54
youcantcompthis
It's a great autograph too.

00:50:31.53
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:32.34
youcantcompthis
All righty. That's it. Enough tops Chrome. We've done that.

00:50:35.46
Adz
We've done top screen to death.

00:50:37.36
youcantcompthis
We are really out of sync today in terms of our break. So let's just go to a really quick break. And then we'll come back and it we'll do our last segment.

00:50:43.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:45.68
youcantcompthis
so So sorry about the short segment on this one guys.

00:50:53.05
youcantcompthis
And we are back. Are you feeling refreshed, sir?

00:50:56.51
Adz
I'm always refreshed after a break.

00:51:00.02
youcantcompthis
All righty. Spectra preview is out.

00:51:01.81
Adz
it sound like That sounded like it was gonna be another commercial, like that wasn't literally. Sorry.

00:51:08.77
youcantcompthis
Just have a ah voice for doing commercials, eh?

00:51:10.04
Adz
Oh, the wheels are coming off. All right, yep.

00:51:13.44
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, let's just get to the cut to the chase here. So color blast is a spectra thing. And I was really confused about this, but now I've got some clarity here. So if you want the white color blast, you need to purchase spectra. If you want a black color blast, you need to purchase obsidian. So that's how they did it. I assumed, and stupidly, now that I think back at it, of course they're going to make more cards and not take one out of the other. They'll have two.

00:51:44.09
youcantcompthis
that they weren't going to do white color blast issues, they were just going to be black. I was wrong. Silly me to assume.

00:51:52.49
Adz
they um They... Can I just say I prefer the the Obsidian ones.

00:51:58.84
youcantcompthis
Do you really? You like the black over the white?

00:52:00.00
Adz
I do, I like the black, yeah.

00:52:02.04
youcantcompthis
Okay. Look, I think, I think that's good and I think it's good that, you know, We can sort of I don't like the black as much as the white.

00:52:12.83
youcantcompthis
So I quite like that. But what I really want to start to see some comps on these, how these going to come out, I think that's going to be really interesting to me.

00:52:21.24
Adz
Hey, that's true.

00:52:22.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:52:22.60
Adz
That's true. Some nice looking cards.

00:52:24.25
youcantcompthis
I wonder if I wonder if the whites are going to be because also that's the traditional color blast.

00:52:30.32
Adz
Oh, ah name some I like it.

00:52:31.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:52:35.82
youcantcompthis
Are you a spectra fan?

00:52:40.60
Adz
I just... I don't know. Spectra is one of those interesting sets. Like as far as putting... Where do you put it? As far as... what end of the price point, you know what I mean? Like what end of the spectrum is it?

00:52:57.28
youcantcompthis
I call it a low high end product.

00:52:59.76
Adz
Yeah, so it's a high end product, but it's on the low end of the high end.

00:53:04.67
youcantcompthis
so Yeah.

00:53:06.24
Adz
It's at the bottom of high end.

00:53:07.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think so.

00:53:08.93
Adz
It's not at the top of low end.

00:53:12.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you could say it's the top of low end. I think it's not that much above revolution, to be honest. And if it didn't have color blast, well, think about it.

00:53:19.29
Adz
Oh, Interesting.

00:53:21.93
youcantcompthis
It's basically the same thing as revolution, but it's got patches in it.

00:53:24.73
Adz
Thicker stock. Thicker card stock.

00:53:26.99
youcantcompthis
Thick, yeah, thickest, but like, like who actually cares about the thickness of a card? Like not that many people are like.

00:53:31.45
Adz
Yep. I mean, they don't warp like revolution cards.

00:53:36.18
youcantcompthis
True. They have different issues, but yeah, that's yeah. And look, it's patches and the color blast. That's really at the end of the day that all that differentiates it.

00:53:42.58
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.

00:53:45.95
youcantcompthis
I think if you like sparkly stuff, well then yeah, Revo Spectra is for you. So I think you do have to be a particular type of guy jumping to into Spectra, but look, it's, you know, it's a good product.

00:53:50.01
Adz
I feel like spectra is high in mosaic.

00:53:57.42
youcantcompthis
I've got no problems with it at all.

00:54:03.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:54:04.38
Adz
Almost. I don't know. I don't know.

00:54:05.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's a good spin.

00:54:06.47
Adz
I don't know. I saw

00:54:09.04
youcantcompthis
Anyway, and I think also the other thing too to say this year is now the Titan insert is going to be into that too. So look,

00:54:16.06
Adz
that. We got the Luca.

00:54:19.34
youcantcompthis
to be honest, I feel like it's just sort of moving chairs around in a room at this point, but

00:54:25.48
Adz
it's like where like It's like, oh, let's try it in a di let's try this insert in a different product.

00:54:31.00
youcantcompthis
I would have just rather that went into Chronicles. I'm actually still really confused why on earth they didn't do Chronicles again. I actually feel like Chronicles is the perfect product is to print as much stuff as you would want to ever do.

00:54:45.16
youcantcompthis
Cause you can do all these, all these different sets and then you can do parallels and numbered cards of every single one.

00:54:45.15
Adz
All the cool stuff that worked, yep. All the little, yep.

00:54:51.52
youcantcompthis
And then that just multiplies all that hobby, retail, blasters, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, go nuts, print, you know, 10 billion.

00:54:51.49
Adz
Yep.

00:54:58.54
youcantcompthis
No one will know. Yeah.

00:54:59.33
Adz
wait for 2025-26 when Panini, their their final run, it'll just be Chronicles.

00:55:07.79
Adz
We've chucked it all in one set.

00:55:10.97
youcantcompthis
Who knows?

00:55:12.05
Adz
Their final release will be Chronicles, and it's like the rest of our stuff.

00:55:16.96
youcantcompthis
if Alrighty, this next one is from at the Dunk Central. So I do like lists and I tried to do that little experiment with the all-star voting of lists to use as a guide.

00:55:30.22
Adz
Okay.

00:55:31.21
youcantcompthis
So here's another guide for you. Hall of Frame Hall of Fame probability, according to at basketball underscore reference, LeBron James 100%, KD, Chris Paul, Steph Curry, all 100%, 99.99, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, 99.93, Anthony Davis, 99.6.

00:55:55.91
youcantcompthis
That one really caught me by surprise. Damian Lillard.

00:55:59.25
Adz
Anthony Davis.

00:56:00.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:56:01.46
Adz
He's an and NBA champion.

00:56:02.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah. yeah There must be some formula that sort of goes into this Lillard 98.71, who's higher than Janus at 98.68, Nicole Jokic at 98.04.

00:56:07.78
Adz
A hundred.

00:56:15.04
youcantcompthis
That to me is nuts. I feel like Jokic should be at number five. Yeah.

00:56:21.26
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:56:21.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Paul George, that's high for me, 97.86, Kyrie at 93.45, Kwai Leonard at 91.31. And I won't read any further.

00:56:32.06
youcantcompthis
If you wanna go through the list though, you'll find it really easy.

00:56:34.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:35.33
youcantcompthis
So what I...

00:56:35.47
Adz
And you can just get a basketball reference. to Yeah.

00:56:38.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah, what I did wanna talk about with this list though is can you use this list to guide a bit of your purchases? So for example, for me, the obvious one that sticks out is AD, right?

00:56:47.24
Adz
me Okay.

00:56:48.30
youcantcompthis
I personally think when I look at his pricing, his rookie cards, his cabooms. They're in my head, they're lower than what it should be for a person or player of his status.

00:57:03.79
youcantcompthis
Then when I see this list, maybe it actually makes me think, well, maybe there's a bit of a hole there.

00:57:03.72
Adz
okay

00:57:08.11
Adz
Mm.

00:57:09.06
youcantcompthis
Then the koliyoke one is really interesting and we can thread this into a segment that's a little bit further down.

00:57:13.53
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:57:16.86
youcantcompthis
You know, I think that's also to do with his I feel like this feeds into his popularity. He's just not that I feel like the way he plays basketball, he doesn't get enough recognition for that.

00:57:28.59
youcantcompthis
Yes, I know he's one multiple MP MVPs. I feel like I'm sort of contradicting myself here, but still it's like he's not an.

00:57:34.66
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting on those those probabilities that a friend of ours, or not probably not a friend of mine, um Luca Dontich isn't in the top 20.

00:57:38.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:57:46.19
Adz
Because you know what? You need to win accolades to actually make it to the Hall of Fame.

00:57:50.55
youcantcompthis
Well, yes.

00:57:51.36
Adz
He's 21st on the list, by the way.

00:57:52.98
youcantcompthis
Hang on, hang on. Hang on. The guy's what, 24 years old, 25 years old?

00:57:57.54
Adz
Win accolades to get to get these things.

00:57:59.11
youcantcompthis
Hang on, mate.

00:58:02.24
youcantcompthis
I wouldn't say the fact he's up that high is amazing.

00:58:05.18
Adz
It's these all-star games. That's what's got him that high. Cause the only thing he wins. Anyway, um, sorry, I had to have a Luca job.

00:58:16.90
Adz
41%.

00:58:17.22
youcantcompthis
I'll take those odds.

00:58:17.30
Adz
That's

00:58:18.10
youcantcompthis
I feel like the um The betting odds on him making the Hall of Fame will be quite juicy if that's what they're going to use as a guide then.

00:58:26.51
Adz
fair.

00:58:27.39
youcantcompthis
Tatum at 32 percent. That's interesting.

00:58:30.36
Adz
Hmm. so there's There's definitely a lot of, um in that list, there is a lot of juice.

00:58:32.04
youcantcompthis
And.

00:58:37.37
youcantcompthis
Juice. All righty, so this is, let's segue in.

00:58:39.49
Adz
We we could probably go back to this list.

00:58:42.77
youcantcompthis
So let's go here. Nicole, Nicole, your kick Ruby way, prism PSA nine numbered to three 50 population, 57 last sold for $1,200.

00:58:47.28
Adz
Mm, yep.

00:58:52.99
youcantcompthis
Now I've been on and on about Nicole, your kick a lot lately. So I can actually, I feel like I can confidently talk about this. I do think he's a good buy.

00:59:05.97
youcantcompthis
at the moment. And I think that there is still some legs in this, particularly for a long term purchase that you put away and you just sit on it. I think that's the mindset you need to have when you buy his stuff.

00:59:17.82
Adz
Nicola Cola.

00:59:18.02
youcantcompthis
However, I will say this. Yeah, if you look back even to 2023, which is only a year ago, he has exponentially gone up. So what I'm worried about is if you jump into the market now,

00:59:31.76
Adz
Mm.

00:59:33.02
youcantcompthis
Are you jumping in at a time when he's actually spiking? And I think the reason he's currently spiking was because of the Olympics. That's my, this is my current theory on that.

00:59:42.37
Adz
The Olympics, you reckon?

00:59:45.12
youcantcompthis
Yep. Because if you think about it, he really didn't play that well in the playoffs. They didn't have the team success that I was personally expecting them to have.

00:59:52.81
Adz
Mm hmm. Yep.

00:59:56.80
youcantcompthis
There's not a lot of reason for that to happen. So I'm

00:59:59.31
Adz
Yep.

01:00:03.70
youcantcompthis
Definitely want to get one of these for my PC and I want to buy it and put it away. This is my current plan, but I do wonder if in the next six months we're going to see a bit of a downward trend there because, yeah.

01:00:16.23
youcantcompthis
Anyway, if there's listeners out there who agree or disagree with me on this, I would love to um hear your thoughts about it, actually.

01:00:16.31
Adz
yeah

01:00:23.79
Adz
Yeah.

01:00:24.75
youcantcompthis
how easily influenced I'll be at this point. I'm probably pretty concrete in my thinking, but at the same time, I would like to definitely hear a different opinion about it. You got any um advice for me, Adam, that you'd want to give me about Nicole Jokic?

01:00:41.23
Adz
Just just gonna um I'm gonna relay some some thoughts that friends and other

01:00:45.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:49.61
Adz
People in the hobby, our friend Ryan have said in the past, bigs don't fare well as far as history goes. There have been some phenomenal centers in the NBA and their their hobby value and hobby love does not reflect their greatness.

01:01:13.65
youcantcompthis
But to that point, um because if you compound your kick to other people, like he's about the same prices and he's less than Anthony Edwards, actually.

01:01:24.14
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:24.92
youcantcompthis
So actually, I think that's already baked in.

01:01:24.90
Adz
I think, but I can compare him to other bigs though. Like, did does he go, does he go up exponentially or does he, is he, are we paying future prices for what he is now?

01:01:32.37
youcantcompthis
No, I don't know.

01:01:35.59
youcantcompthis
I actually think his resume is excellent to this point. Actually, that's that's why I'm interested in him the most, because I think that for what his pricing is, for what he's done, I think he's excellent.

01:01:39.46
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:47.52
youcantcompthis
Your return for what you're getting, that's what I think.

01:01:49.71
Adz
yeah Okay. Yeah.

01:01:52.22
youcantcompthis
But I do agree with your point. If it was a guard that was had his accolades and his achievements, I think he would be two or three times higher, personally.

01:01:57.81
Adz
Mmm.

01:02:01.17
Adz
Yep.

01:02:02.86
youcantcompthis
So I do agree with that.

01:02:02.83
Adz
Yep.

01:02:04.31
youcantcompthis
yeah

01:02:04.89
Adz
Yeah, I don't know.

01:02:05.93
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:02:07.61
Adz
But I do think there's some value in him, but he's definitely experiencing a bit of a, he's finally getting appreciated hobby-wise, getting some recognition, which is positive.

01:02:16.22
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:20.39
Adz
A lot of players don't normally, but it's interesting to see, I don't know, where him and Is it, is it him versus Embiid at the moment? Or is he, well, is he like leagues above Embiid at the moment because of the championship?

01:02:33.78
youcantcompthis
Are you talking about hobby wise or are you talking about on the court?

01:02:35.26
Adz
Yeah, i both, both.

01:02:37.82
youcantcompthis
So hobby wise and bead is much further down the chain.

01:02:41.70
Adz
Yeah. Does success change that?

01:02:46.24
youcantcompthis
Not sure to be honest.

01:02:47.54
Adz
Hmm.

01:02:49.50
youcantcompthis
Because there's a situation that plays out this year that he can play not even the required amount of games to qualify for end of season awards, but the Philadelphia 76ers have a really good year.

01:03:00.40
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:02.91
youcantcompthis
Like that team is insanely deep.

01:03:05.65
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:06.10
youcantcompthis
Like Paul George and Tyrese Maxey and half a season of MB'd, you know, worst case scenario, they lolly gag him along to the playoffs.

01:03:09.11
Adz
Hmm.

01:03:15.26
youcantcompthis
I think that's going to be a really, really good team.

01:03:17.86
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:18.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:20.06
Adz
Anyway, I just yeah, I think the big factor might be the fact that these are big.

01:03:20.78
youcantcompthis
really good.

01:03:24.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

01:03:25.72
Adz
It's just not flashy.

01:03:25.84
youcantcompthis
All right.

01:03:26.64
Adz
He doesn't have that. He doesn't have Faruja factor.

01:03:29.17
youcantcompthis
No, he doesn't absolutely not.

01:03:30.90
Adz
I think that's just a slow burn that is going to be value, but it'll never. I don't see it being that spike value. If that makes sense.

01:03:40.90
youcantcompthis
Definitely.

01:03:41.56
Adz
Yeah. So in 20 years time, we're not going to be chasing Jokic inserts. I think there'll be plentiful supplies of his cards. You know what I mean? Like we'll run out of autos and rookie cards to look at.

01:03:53.11
Adz
We'll just be going for random inserts of YoKitch because we want to get our hands on it.

01:03:56.91
youcantcompthis
No, I don't think that at all.

01:03:58.65
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:58.77
youcantcompthis
But I think the numbered rookie stuff. Yeah.

01:04:00.86
Adz
Numbered rookie stuff is where it'll be. Yeah, for sure.

01:04:02.62
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

01:04:03.22
Adz
The value. Yeah.

01:04:05.31
youcantcompthis
Well, thanks for that. I appreciate that. All right. This next one is from tops. Again, we are not sponsored by tops. By the way, this is just a bit of a coincidence this week. Life changing pool in 2004, a man walked into his local seven 11 and purchased a pack of tops.

01:04:20.19
youcantcompthis
Chrome moments later, he would hit the biggest card of his life. A one of one LeBron James super factor from a $3 packed. It graded PSA 10.

01:04:30.63
Adz
from a $3 pack.

01:04:34.00
youcantcompthis
And it's sold this week for 720,000 US dollar ado. So congratulations to that man. And I suppose this is the thing for us is, is that a good purchaser?

01:04:50.68
Adz
So that's a second year LeBron. One of one.

01:05:00.77
Adz
700K.

01:05:01.85
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:05:07.97
youcantcompthis
It's a 10.

01:05:09.32
Adz
Yeah, like I get it. I get that it's a 10. I'm just, I'm trying to give it, in my mind, relevance. So it's not a rookie card.

01:05:20.23
Adz
It's not an autograph. It's not a patch. Yes, it's a one of one. So one of one is a a factor. It's second year.

01:05:27.98
youcantcompthis
It's a good, it's a good looking card.

01:05:30.63
Adz
Good looking card, that's that's ah that's a plus. Is it worth 700K? A one of one's clearly paid with whatever the the owner is prepared to pay for it because it's a one of one.

01:05:48.36
Adz
I reckon they may have paid Opus though.

01:05:50.80
youcantcompthis
Okay.

01:05:52.10
Adz
I just...

01:05:58.14
Adz
Yeah.

01:06:01.22
Adz
Yeah, but it's ah it's I think it's great, but I just, I struggle to put it, where to put it on the gauge of, where yeah, pricing.

01:06:01.34
youcantcompthis
but I really.

01:06:06.51
youcantcompthis
Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. I'm with you. I think to be honest, I'd probably rather something else that autograph to for that money. Like what else can you get for 700 K? yeah But then the one of one.

01:06:16.47
Adz
It wouldn't be my only, wouldn't be my purchase if if I had, say I had a million dollars, like, you know, the the old joke, if I had a million dollars,

01:06:22.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:26.34
Adz
to buy, it like if it was it was a million dollar voucher and I could only spend it on basketball cards, right, it wasn't, ha ha, you can invest and do whatnot, basketball cards.

01:06:32.82
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:37.46
Adz
This is not one of my purchases.

01:06:39.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:41.80
Adz
But would a second year Kobe PSA 10, one of one, I'm trying to think. Probably not.

01:06:54.63
Adz
Trying to give it relativity for me, but no. i i It'd have to be someone that's like a big time LeBron collector.

01:07:02.96
youcantcompthis
Oh, I think that's a huge like LeBron collector. You know, actually what just came to be then was that maybe we put an over premium on rookie stock.

01:07:13.31
Adz
maybe Maybe we do do.

01:07:13.47
youcantcompthis
And then this person's just like, look, actually, I know I definitely do it.

01:07:15.24
Adz
Do we do it or does the does the hobby in general do it? Sure.

01:07:20.31
youcantcompthis
Like for me in my head, rookie stuff is up here and then the rest of it's kind of, you know, in the ocean down the bottom somewhere, you know, mixed up in a big box that's not organized.

01:07:25.88
Adz
It's jam. Yep.

01:07:32.10
youcantcompthis
So, yeah.

01:07:32.02
Adz
Yep. Yep. Yep. Agreed. Interesting one.

01:07:37.84
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, this next one. What have I got here? Anthony Edwards. This is from At It's Clutch Cards. One of one mosaic black sold for $2,850.

01:07:52.95
Adz
That is a sexy card.

01:07:53.19
youcantcompthis
Now, I finally had a message from a friend this week and was asking me about spending $1,000 on a non-rookie Anthony Edwards Noir autograph.

01:07:58.93
Adz
yeah

01:08:06.69
Adz
Yeah.

01:08:08.53
youcantcompthis
And so when you, I suppose to put the relevance in, that was a thousand Aussie versus 3000 US. Let's just round it up. It's easier. That's about 5,000 Aussie.

01:08:20.51
Adz
Yeah, that's a lot of money.

01:08:22.14
youcantcompthis
Hmm. I, I think also too, I've got to say to you, I think stuff like that, that has to be a PC thing.

01:08:23.29
Adz
but

01:08:29.15
youcantcompthis
I think for me, that's a very risky flip. Like if that was prism, I would feel more comfortable with that two eight price tag.

01:08:32.85
Adz
Yeah.

01:08:37.76
youcantcompthis
But again, maybe if you send that off to PSA and it gems and it comes back, then you'd be feeling you know a lot more comfortable about it.

01:08:38.02
Adz
Yeah.

01:08:44.71
youcantcompthis
But to take your earlier point, that is a very nice looking card.

01:08:47.70
Adz
It's a great looking card.

01:08:51.01
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:08:54.19
youcantcompthis
All right, one more. There's a few in that list there, Rad. What would you like to do? You pick the next one.

01:09:00.25
Adz
Whoa.

01:09:00.92
youcantcompthis
Then we can call it a day.

01:09:05.22
Adz
Eye Catching Sale. I can't help it. Let's put Kobe and Jordan.

01:09:10.74
youcantcompthis
Good choice.

01:09:14.06
youcantcompthis
All right, you lead this one. out I feel like this has got your name all over it.

01:09:15.65
Adz
All right. So Heritage Auctions. 2001 Upper Deck Legends. Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant. Jewel Autograph. What is it? PSA 5.

01:09:32.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:09:34.49
Adz
Okay, autos are eight.

01:09:38.67
Adz
Sorry, Kobe and Jordan, numbers are 10. Sold for $30,000.

01:09:44.95
youcantcompthis
Great.

01:09:45.78
Adz
Would you, is it so, talk about autographs, like this is obviously 2001, so it's not a particularly important year. But that's that's ah that's a nice Jordan Kobe dual auto.

01:10:00.26
youcantcompthis
I'm going to say something outlandish here and I know you're going to mock me, but I would rather that than the LeBron one of one.

01:10:08.47
Adz
Same.

01:10:09.50
youcantcompthis
and also the Edwards one of one. I know the Edwards is 10 times less than that, but still.

01:10:15.98
Adz
I'd want this in like 30 grand.

01:10:21.33
youcantcompthis
That seems quite cheap for that, doesn't it?

01:10:23.34
Adz
It's because it's a PSA 5.

01:10:28.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I know I've said this a few times, but I'm gonna say it again. li The grade of a card does matter, but at the same time it doesn't. Like, do you actually,

01:10:36.59
Adz
There are 10 of these in the world and these two are the greatest basketballs of all time.

01:10:38.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Do you actually care? Yeah.

01:10:41.06
Adz
That's a Kobe and Jordan.

01:10:42.84
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:10:43.14
Adz
um um um I'd be happy to pay 30K for that.

01:10:46.39
youcantcompthis
And also looking at this card, we're not talking about like that NFL card that we looked at earlier in the show where it was like smashed to smithereens and you made the joke about it's a die cut.

01:10:49.30
Adz
No,

01:10:53.88
Adz
no no.

01:10:55.01
youcantcompthis
Like it, that to me is, is fine.

01:10:57.16
Adz
That looks good.

01:10:57.85
youcantcompthis
You know, yeah. Actually, it's really funny. I think this is a really good time to reemphasize this. So but E X is as in excellent.

01:11:11.88
youcantcompthis
Five. I think sometimes we forget that.

01:11:14.48
Adz
Yeah.

01:11:16.50
youcantcompthis
Like if you got excellent on a test, you'd be like, yeah, that was excellent.

01:11:19.31
Adz
Yeah.

01:11:19.96
youcantcompthis
I'm happy with that. But this is weird thing in our sort of atmosphere about this.

01:11:23.38
Adz
ah did I it's awesome.

01:11:26.71
youcantcompthis
Anyway, I say congratulations to the person who bought that. That is a very shrewd purchase and actually.

01:11:35.05
Adz
It's awesome.

01:11:36.22
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's never happening again. I think that's the type of stuff to me that's important.

01:11:40.39
Adz
Hmm.

01:11:41.59
youcantcompthis
ye All right, man, let's tie this bad boy off. Any last thoughts, any last comments for our listeners at home?

01:11:48.95
Adz
um My last thoughts, are I still don't know how I feel about Chrome, but some of those cards look pretty cool, so I might go, you know, auction hunting on eBay for um some of those.

01:12:00.53
Adz
as The Superfly, a lot i like I like it, so maybe I'll go for some of those.

01:12:05.01
youcantcompthis
There's gonna be heaps of this stuff coming out mate in breaks you will have lots of Give it a week or two and then it will be absolutely flooded flooded Half of the eBay listings of the world's gonna be tops current basketball people selling off cards from breaks when they didn't hit when be

01:12:08.25
Adz
Yep.

01:12:13.41
Adz
Flooded, it will be the top's Chrome.

01:12:22.58
Adz
Goodness, goodness gracious.

01:12:25.16
youcantcompthis
Tell me I'm wrong. You know what I mean? I know I'm right about this.

01:12:28.09
Adz
Yeah, this is gonna be, yeah, this is gonna be a ah tsunami of tops Chrome.

01:12:34.12
youcantcompthis
You don't get a wimpy. What are you going to do with those cards? They look horrible.

01:12:38.32
Adz
Some of them look good.

01:12:39.89
youcantcompthis
OK, fine. 80% of them look like crap. The other 20%.

01:12:43.24
Adz
Those 72 retro autos look amazing. That's all I can say.

01:12:45.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure. OK, fine.

01:12:46.73
Adz
I don't get that.

01:12:46.95
youcantcompthis
That fits into the 20%. Fine.

01:12:48.99
Adz
Yeah, that's good. I like it. That's all right. We'll wait until they get the license. Then we can be, um, we can have a complete appraised assessment of whether or not tops can save the hobby.

01:12:58.88
youcantcompthis
So you know what we should do? We should get Alon to um rate the artwork.

01:13:04.94
Adz
Yeah, let's do it.

01:13:09.14
Adz
Let's do it.

01:13:10.86
youcantcompthis
We'll give him five minutes.

01:13:13.85
Adz
The five minute rant from Al.

01:13:15.44
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:13:17.90
Adz
Yeah, let's do it.

01:13:20.84
Adz
I can I can already hear them. that I can see the chat bubbles typing. Well, they aren't they will be.

01:13:25.26
youcantcompthis
Actually, I got two things to say before we sign off. All right, I'm putting this out to all the listeners. If there's any listeners at home that have a wife that has got a moderately good sense of humor that would like to come onto to the show and tell us um how ridiculous we are as a group of grown men collecting sports cards, I would love to do a five minute segment about that.

01:13:45.94
Adz
I mean, yep.

01:13:46.31
youcantcompthis
That's the first thing. The second thing is, thank you to our Central Coast radio listeners. We don't give these guys enough love and support. We really appreciate everything you do for us. If you don't listen to Central Coast Radio, check it out.

01:13:59.94
youcantcompthis
It's a homegrown group of Aussies making some good content. We are on Tuesday nights, 11 p.m. to 1 a.m., Thursdays, 10 a.m.

01:14:11.14
youcantcompthis
to noon, and Saturday night, 3 a.m. to 5. So that's us.

01:14:18.38
Adz
Yeah.

01:14:19.21
youcantcompthis
Thank you, everyone, for listening. Thank you, Adam, for a very enjoyable evening.

01:14:22.13
Adz
Pleasure as always. Enjoy Father's Day and all that well to yourself.

01:14:23.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:14:26.25
Adz
And I'm sure we'll have plenty of fathers listening.

01:14:26.95
youcantcompthis
Thanks man.

01:14:29.39
Adz
So by the time I get my self around to producing everything this week, it'd probably be after Father's Day. But yeah, I hope all the dads that are listening had a great Father's Day.

01:14:41.08
youcantcompthis
Cheers, man. I've actually, um, I haven't been given my presence, but my kids, they couldn't help themselves. They told me what they bought me.

01:14:50.23
Adz
Are they taking you to a file ad encore performances for patrol?

01:14:55.57
youcantcompthis
No.

01:14:56.43
Adz
and Lucky you.

01:15:02.15
youcantcompthis
Thanks, everyone. Bye bye.

01:15:03.29
Adz
Thanks everyone, we'll see you next week.