Episode 164: Eastern Conference Prospecting Preview

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Adam and Russell go through every team in the Eastern conference and highlight key players who we think will impact the hobby market this year.
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00:00:00.01
Adz
all AFL at the moment, so.

00:00:01.22
youcantcompthis
I can't wait

00:00:04.23
Adz
Oh, that's a good life thing.

00:00:16.96
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 164 of the You Can't Comp this NBA Trading Card Podcast, where your host Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson a little bit earlier than normal this week.

00:00:30.27
Adz
It's crazy in Melbourne at the moment.

00:00:31.12
youcantcompthis
little bit earlier, but for very good reason.

00:00:32.40
Adz
Yeah.

00:00:33.62
youcantcompthis
I think your swanies are in the grand final and, you know, we did have some, yeah, we did have some football chat on the, on the Facebook page, which kind of made me a little bit sad, but that's okay.

00:00:36.55
Adz
Yes. We have a public holiday here in Melbourne for it to celebrate football.

00:00:46.32
Adz
i did I did a shout out trying to get grand final tickets. Sadly, none of our basketball enthusiasts i could could hook me up.

00:00:53.67
youcantcompthis
Could hook you up. Yeah.

00:00:55.58
Adz
So I am going to drown my sorrows at a barbecue um and hopefully celebrate a big win for my team.

00:00:55.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Shame, shame.

00:01:02.39
Adz
So, yeah.

00:01:02.80
youcantcompthis
That's it. Anyway, look, when it's the grand final, I'll allow some football chat on the theme, but otherwise it's banned.

00:01:08.32
Adz
Awesome. It's banned.

00:01:09.86
youcantcompthis
Banned.

00:01:11.29
Adz
Banned, that's fair. That is fair. At least I'm not trying to comp football cards.

00:01:15.79
youcantcompthis
Oh that'll be deleted. You'd be put on post approval ad.

00:01:22.82
Adz
But speaking ah speaking of comping cards, we're really gonna dig deep.

00:01:23.04
youcantcompthis
Um,

00:01:27.30
Adz
We're back into cards this week.

00:01:28.77
youcantcompthis
yeah.

00:01:28.82
Adz
We've had some some fun weeks. It was nice to speak to Lane last week.

00:01:32.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:01:33.63
Adz
That was that was ah that was a lot of fun.

00:01:35.53
youcantcompthis
Interesting, informative guy with, he's got a lot going on in the hobby. And actually I'm kind of proud to fly the Australian flag when I speak to someone like Lane, like building 130 point and all the processes he's got done for the hobby, submitting cards for people to PSA.

00:01:44.24
Adz
Yeah.

00:01:50.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:01:51.74
youcantcompthis
Like it's, you know, it really is an asset. And I think. I mean, look, it's also the way that media is sometimes portrayed in terms of social media. There's so many scams in the hobby to have that service available to Australians for that.

00:02:05.54
youcantcompthis
You know, actually, I think it's just really reassuring and dare I even say heartwarming, you know, so, but yeah, I'm definitely, I'm proud of Lane in terms of his 130 point work.

00:02:05.67
Adz
Yeah.

00:02:15.40
youcantcompthis
Like I think that's a, just kind of cool to, you know, know someone like that, you know, I think, and that.

00:02:19.50
Adz
For sure. Well, I just think Australia in general, like it contributes in such a ah meaningful way to to this, to this hobby.

00:02:28.22
youcantcompthis
Well, small, but meaningful.

00:02:28.42
Adz
Like we've got pick. Yeah. So we've got people like, we've got people like Lane, um, with one 30 point, which is, I mean, it's a globally recognized platform, which is awesome.

00:02:32.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:02:36.56
youcantcompthis
yeah Yeah.

00:02:37.99
Adz
Um, obviously we've got, we've got friends like, I don't know, Tyson Beck.

00:02:41.58
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Tyson's the other next obvious one, isn't it?

00:02:42.87
Adz
Tyson's like, uh, yeah.

00:02:43.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:02:44.07
Adz
And then there's us.

00:02:45.71
youcantcompthis
Well, I think we're a few steps back, but you know, and like that's, ah you know, that's okay.

00:02:46.44
Adz
Are we on the, are we on the podium or are we?

00:02:52.98
Adz
We're working on it.

00:02:58.11
youcantcompthis
Anyway, so this episode is all just comms. So what we're going to do is we're going to go through every single Eastern Conference team and then this week we're going to do the West.

00:03:05.37
Adz
ye

00:03:07.20
youcantcompthis
And so I think what we should probably do to start the show off is shout out to Daniel Torini 1253 and he is a listener on YouTube. And he put up this question, hey, legends, could you do a last minute buys before the season start segment, e.g.

00:03:22.39
youcantcompthis
who is cheap or who was dropped at the moment? There's potential to grow throughout the season. And what my initial plan was, and I put up a bit of a teaser on socials.

00:03:30.78
Adz
Hmm.

00:03:31.53
youcantcompthis
Maybe last week, I think it was, but then we had Lane sort of come on at the last minute. and I was just going to do 10 cards, but then it got me thinking. We've been very, very comp light the last few weeks.

00:03:42.67
youcantcompthis
So why don't we just get out and do the whole lot. So but we're going to do the whole week.

00:03:45.92
Adz
Yeah. No more no more no more comply. We're going to do everything we this is we're jamming it all in.

00:03:51.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, we're back. Yeah.

00:03:53.42
Adz
we Well, we might have to separate it into conferences.

00:03:57.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:03:58.55
Adz
Half and half.

00:04:00.21
youcantcompthis
If we could do every team in two minutes, we could, we could do the whole league in one episode.

00:04:00.51
Adz
lets

00:04:03.50
Adz
Let's, we could do like a a special four hour show where, no, we'd do that live.

00:04:04.90
youcantcompthis
but

00:04:08.71
youcantcompthis
No, no, it's go no one's going to listen to that.

00:04:10.58
Adz
That'd be,

00:04:12.97
youcantcompthis
I mean, not even my mum would, you know, she would turn it off after about 15 minutes.

00:04:16.52
Adz
we should have requested we do that the AFL grand final parade and you just like talk basketball cards.

00:04:23.08
youcantcompthis
That would suit me.

00:04:24.19
Adz
That I'm sure that would go down like a lead balloon.

00:04:26.27
youcantcompthis
I actually thought about doing that like a live segment when the AFL is on the grand final. So then people who don't want to watch the grand final got something else to do.

00:04:34.61
Adz
you realise you'll be doing that solo, I will be watching the grand final.

00:04:37.20
youcantcompthis
I know, I definitely know you won't be there, but like, you know, that would entertain.

00:04:40.56
Adz
I'll see the notification, I'll pop into the the chat, I'll say something.

00:04:43.31
youcantcompthis
It would entertain me anyway.

00:04:45.59
Adz
I'll be giving score updates to the football.

00:04:48.98
youcantcompthis
All right, let's do this ad. Let's get going.

00:04:50.98
Adz
Let's kick it off with, um who have we got?

00:04:52.74
youcantcompthis
Boston Celtics, they should go first. They're the reigning champs. They deserve maybe a little bit more love than Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown got from Steve Kerr and the team USA playing rotations.

00:04:57.34
Adz
Both um

00:05:03.70
Adz
They got a gold medal out of it.

00:05:03.89
youcantcompthis
but

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youcantcompthis
They did.

00:05:10.54
Adz
Well, yes.

00:05:12.73
youcantcompthis
Jalen Brown didn't, but Tatum did.

00:05:13.92
Adz
Jalen Brown did and Tatum did.

00:05:15.15
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:05:15.76
Adz
You can just enjoy it. But yeah, the Celtics, Tatum.

00:05:19.79
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So look, we're not going to touch on every player from every team. That would just be just too difficult to do. So for example, for the Celtics with high, well, we pointed out Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.

00:05:25.62
Adz
Hmm.

00:05:30.93
youcantcompthis
That's the one we're going to talk about today, but add, feel free to chip in anywhere that you want.

00:05:36.00
Adz
Oh, cool.

00:05:36.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:05:37.48
Adz
yo You can you can lead it lead us off with Tatum.

00:05:39.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right. So Jason Tatum, if you look at his 12 month growth, he's actually down 32%. And that to me is just like, frankly, bananas. If you look at his one month growth, he's actually down 28%, which is super interesting when you think about it, because he's just come off.

00:05:57.35
youcantcompthis
NBA Finals win was definitely an important player and it didn't get the MVP, but that's, you know, that's okay.

00:05:58.58
Adz
Mmm.

00:06:03.57
youcantcompthis
He was actually trading very recently at 852 he's currently trading at 610.

00:06:09.71
Adz
Is that an off season thing?

00:06:09.74
youcantcompthis
so i think Yeah, it definitely could be an off-season thing, but you know, I think this is also, and we've touched on this a little bit of when people are holding onto cards to sell them particular, you know, pinch points in terms of their career.

00:06:22.79
youcantcompthis
I think that's what we're seeing here and a lot more of these cards will become available.

00:06:25.44
Adz
oh

00:06:26.54
youcantcompthis
But I think the real question for me is where is this gentleman going in the next 12 months to say five years? I think And when you look at the Celtics roster and also moving forward, potentially with Bezos buying the team and also the salary cap going up, you know, we've spoken about the salary, the large salaries that the Boston Celtics, you know, players are being paid. And um in my head, I'm like, how's this all going to work out? But actually with the growing cap, maybe it's all going to work out and this team is going to stay together this sort of, you know, nice young nucleus.

00:06:58.54
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:59.20
youcantcompthis
Where I'm going with this is I actually wonder if the Celtics are gonna win multiple championships over the next few years and actually is this a really good buy at the moment?

00:07:03.54
Adz
I'd like to hope not.

00:07:07.82
youcantcompthis
It's $600. Population on it is higher. I'll definitely appreciate that. It's 890 on the silver PSA 10. You know, I actually think there's some there's some room for this to grow at 610.

00:07:24.67
youcantcompthis
So yeah, I think so.

00:07:24.86
Adz
You think?

00:07:26.74
youcantcompthis
I don't think this is terrible. And I think probably, yeah, where I'm going with this is it's dependent on him winning multiple championships. So, but I definitely see that potential there.

00:07:37.98
youcantcompthis
So yeah.

00:07:38.01
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:07:40.64
youcantcompthis
Now Jalen.

00:07:41.17
Adz
Yeah, I think this definitely, yeah, I think Tatum, Tatum is definitely worth the looksee at the moment.

00:07:45.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah, Jalen Brown on the other hand is in a different price point altogether. So he's trading at the moment at 265. His one month growth is down basically 10%.

00:07:56.99
youcantcompthis
Let's just call it that. His one year growth though is really up and down, but he's actually up like half a percent. So population on this is much, much lower than the Tatum at 287.

00:08:07.55
Adz
Mm.

00:08:07.78
youcantcompthis
If I did have to choose between the two of these, just simply for the price point, I would go with the Jalen Brown because

00:08:13.91
Adz
And the population.

00:08:15.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah, and the pop. Yeah.

00:08:17.67
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Do do you think there's ah there's a world where Jaylen Brown does usurp Tatum at the top?

00:08:27.16
youcantcompthis
I think a lot has to change in that space. And I think Kerr actually has done the Boston Celtics a massive favor.

00:08:29.78
Adz
Aside from Steve Kerr like trying to make it look that way.

00:08:37.35
youcantcompthis
Like they've already been talking about on social media that they're going to use it as motivation to come into the new year and just dominate people.

00:08:42.69
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:44.52
youcantcompthis
And I think the hangover, the championship from the hangovers is a real thing. So maybe what we're going to see from the Boston Celtics, there's no championship hangover for this team. They're like, they're ready to go right now.

00:08:55.50
youcantcompthis
So that to me is going to be really interesting.

00:08:56.16
Adz
yeah

00:08:58.29
youcantcompthis
ah So to answer your question specifically, the only way I see Jalen Brown being more expensive than Tatum, if Tatum bottoms out and there's no real reason for Tatum to bottom out because

00:08:58.99
Adz
Mmm.

00:09:11.30
youcantcompthis
I still think all the talent and the pedigree is, is going to be there for Tatum. And look, if you're asking my honest opinion, the way that they give out the MVP award for the finals, there's not a lot of logic behind it.

00:09:22.39
youcantcompthis
And I actually disagree that Jalen Brown was, I was going to say given, but given is not the right word or gifted. And again, that's not the right word. He earned the award, but I still don't think that that was the right decision.

00:09:31.82
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:37.20
Adz
Yep.

00:09:37.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Anything else on the Celtics you want to talk about before we push on?

00:09:42.68
Adz
I've got, I've got one quick one that we the Derek White still trading at 80 bucks.

00:09:44.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah, hit me.

00:09:49.05
youcantcompthis
I'll let you manage this. I've i got nothing to talk about on this one.

00:09:52.18
Adz
ah it's It's a lower pop. I mean, he's ah he's an Olympic gold medalist now.

00:09:56.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:09:57.23
Adz
um Looking at the one-year growth. He's actually, he's growth, he's steadily up. Started the 12 months ago at $55.

00:10:05.29
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:10:05.43
Adz
Now trading at 80.

00:10:07.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so my immediate comp to that would be Drew Holliday. I think Derek White is like a poor man's Drew Holliday.

00:10:12.20
Adz
Love it. Yep.

00:10:15.18
youcantcompthis
And I think if you want to spend that low end money on a player who's really good and oh I'll put those two in the same category, I'd probably rather put my money into Drew Holliday.

00:10:19.21
Adz
Yep. Yeah, for sure.

00:10:24.08
youcantcompthis
So that's probably where I'm sitting with that.

00:10:25.69
Adz
Oh, Derek White's the younger player though.

00:10:29.77
Adz
It's got more potential for growth.

00:10:30.12
youcantcompthis
I think Drew, yeah, Drew's got two championships on two different teams, you know,

00:10:34.85
Adz
Derek White might get another gold medal.

00:10:38.33
youcantcompthis
Maybe.

00:10:38.37
Adz
Might win some more championships. All right, so multiple championships on one team or single championships on multiple teams. What's more impressive?

00:10:45.43
youcantcompthis
So for example, for me, I prefer Kwai Leonard's career in a lot of ways because he won championships on different teams.

00:10:52.13
Adz
Hmm, interesting.

00:10:53.50
youcantcompthis
And so for example, he gets traded to Toronto and they virtually instantly win a championship. And I think there's something to be said about that. And so for me,

00:11:03.09
Adz
So the LeBron legacy is better than the Kobe legacy?

00:11:07.33
youcantcompthis
Uh, that's a completely like separate argument altogether, man.

00:11:12.84
Adz
It's true, it's true. and And look, that's a different episode.

00:11:15.67
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That's ah almost a question to itself really, isn't it? Yeah.

00:11:19.39
Adz
It's true, it's true. But yeah, like I couldn't imagine anything outside the the bubble. I mean, all jokes aside with Derek White, I couldn't imagine anything outside the bubble of Tatum and Brown, really. There's not really much in the way of prospecting.

00:11:29.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:33.04
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:33.15
Adz
um Do you think there's a market for Paul Zingas or it's PC only at this stage?

00:11:38.76
youcantcompthis
I think Paul Zinkis is fine, but I think the issue with him is that the prices on him haven't moved a lot. And so I bought Pozingis a couple of years back, identifying him as someone who I thought was less.

00:11:46.35
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:53.03
youcantcompthis
His value is less than what his talent is, but even moving to a Boston team, his value didn't come up very much. And then he was injured through the finals anyway. So that was really the the most Pozingis thing that could happen.

00:12:02.95
Adz
yeah

00:12:05.85
youcantcompthis
Gets traded to a really good team, contributes in a meaningful way, but then he's injured for you know half of the finals. Like that's literally the summary of his career, isn't it really?

00:12:13.56
Adz
yeah Yeah, pretty much.

00:12:13.76
youcantcompthis
so Look, I think you can buy them if you want, but I don't think there's a lot of upside there, and also the big man sort of thing, so.

00:12:19.35
Adz
Yeah, most definitely.

00:12:21.26
youcantcompthis
Alrighty.

00:12:21.87
Adz
Who's next on the list?

00:12:22.26
youcantcompthis
Brooklyn Nets. I've got a note next to this one that says low-end delight. So the three players I identified is Cam Thomas, Cameron Johnson, and Killian Hayes.

00:12:32.93
youcantcompthis
So I think Cam Thomas is probably the most interesting one to talk about because he had that huge spike last year. And his prices at the moment, actually I'm really surprised about. So silver PSA 10 is currently trading at $170. And for me, that's actually a sell or a hold. I'm really sort of, maybe I'm just being too conservative on this one, but I'm not particularly that interested in spending that much money on that. In saying all of that, if he has a crazy good year this year, we've already seen him having a spike.

00:13:05.69
youcantcompthis
Actually, I think he could go up, he could have another spike. And there's no reason in my head.

00:13:09.87
Adz
Wow.

00:13:10.91
youcantcompthis
You know, some people just have that, let's just say the frugia factor.

00:13:14.34
Adz
Hmm.

00:13:14.78
youcantcompthis
I think he's the type of guy that, you know, can go up and down like a yoga. And maybe that's his, maybe that's his hobby destiny, that he's going to be like a stock that's extremely volatile.

00:13:18.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:13:24.30
youcantcompthis
Population on this is 45.

00:13:25.00
Adz
Probably.

00:13:26.40
youcantcompthis
Look, I don't have the stomach for this type of um asset collecting, but I can actually see that, you know, being a piece.

00:13:31.50
Adz
Let's see the rationale behind it.

00:13:33.71
youcantcompthis
um Yeah.

00:13:34.50
Adz
Sure.

00:13:35.51
youcantcompthis
The next two I'm actually more interested to talk about. So Cam Johnson, Silver PSA 10 is 594.

00:13:38.12
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:13:42.41
youcantcompthis
So it's high, the population on that is very high. But the price point on this, it last traded at $9.85. This actually might be one of my strongest buys out of everything that we talk about today.

00:13:54.32
Adz
Really?

00:13:54.40
youcantcompthis
And if I'm recollecting properly, um We did a segment on Cam Johnson versus Mikel Bridges, and I'm pretty sure I said Cam Johnson was the better buy at the price point.

00:14:06.28
youcantcompthis
So that was an absolute stinker from me, but I'm going to double down.

00:14:08.98
Adz
yeah Yeah.

00:14:10.59
youcantcompthis
At $10, you know, if I picked up three or four of these at $10 a piece, I'd be very happy about that. There's going to be a lot of opportunity. If you look at the Brooklyn roster, there's a lot of opportunity here for players to emerge.

00:14:22.72
Adz
Prospecting.

00:14:23.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:14:23.62
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:24.22
youcantcompthis
So, which takes us to our last one. This is really for Al Keynes. Killian Hayes got re- not re-signed. He got signed by the Brooklyn Nets. I can't find any data on PSA 10s on this, but his raws are trading for $1.49.

00:14:40.16
youcantcompthis
Look, I kind of think this is fun, you know.

00:14:45.14
Adz
Killian Hayes, it's not funny if you paid more than $1.49 for him, no?

00:14:48.55
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I think if you land one of these for sub $10 Aussie, you send off a few to PSA.

00:14:48.56
Adz
Sorry, Al.

00:14:53.73
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:56.47
youcantcompthis
He has a really good year because again, there's going to be a lot of opportunity on this roster. So look, I think the Brooklyn Nets are a really sort of fun, you know, prospecting team.

00:15:00.94
Adz
Mmm.

00:15:05.66
youcantcompthis
And there's actually like a lot of meat on the bones there. So, you know, the potentially.

00:15:09.26
Adz
some some dollar box goodie goodness, if it makes sense.

00:15:11.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right.

00:15:12.10
Adz
Go digging through, we go to a local card shop, see a couple of kilions, why not?

00:15:14.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. low-end delight. I think that little catchphrase sticks.

00:15:18.37
Adz
That's see it.

00:15:19.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:20.53
Adz
would could be It could be one of those, um like you sort of take a $20 challenge almost, and you go into a bargain box and you dig through, try and get the best, like what's gonna be the best best value and then wait for a couple of months and see what that $20 turned into kind of thing.

00:15:27.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:29.97
youcantcompthis
How many can you get for 20 bucks?

00:15:37.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:15:38.66
Adz
yeah

00:15:40.33
youcantcompthis
Should we go to our first ad break ad?

00:15:42.21
Adz
We should, we should.

00:15:43.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Let's start with the hobby hangout this week. I think I'm feeling in a hobby hangout type mood. So thank you to the gentleman at the hobby hangout for your support. You've given us so much support in terms of opportunity to be at your events and and live podcasts there and and believe in our product. So we're grateful for that. You also give a sponsorship too. And that's what we're going to talk about now. So the 17th of November, we will be at the hobby hangout and hope to see everyone there. Tickets are currently on sale for $35.

00:16:15.47
youcantcompthis
It doesn't say how many tickets are left at the second release, but then the final release will go on sale for $39. It is 11.30 a.m. to 5 p.m. It's at...

00:16:27.54
youcantcompthis
Why can't I see where it's at? The Melbourne Pavilion in Kensington. And did I say the day, Dad? The 17th of November.

00:16:33.77
Adz
The 17th of November, the Melbourne Pavilion, it's gonna be, it's gonna be great.

00:16:35.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:16:40.83
Adz
We're gonna be there. Of course it's gonna be great.

00:16:41.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Also, shout out to Sydney. Sydney have got a show, the 1st of December. That is at the, it's funny I can remember this, the roundhouse. Again, tickets are at thehobbyhangout.com.au.

00:16:55.30
youcantcompthis
Get along to this, guys. It's always a really good day. There's trading zones, there is live workshops, there's podcasts, there's breaks, and just a really good way to meet people that you've probably spoken to online and put a face to the name, basically.

00:17:06.22
Adz
Yeah.

00:17:09.73
youcantcompthis
I think that's the thing that I enjoy about the the hobby hangout and

00:17:12.92
Adz
It's true.

00:17:14.03
youcantcompthis
these events like this.

00:17:14.36
Adz
gonna be It's gonna be a heap of fun, heap of fun.

00:17:14.87
youcantcompthis
so yeah

00:17:19.52
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, we are back. Welcome every everyone back. So glad that you could join us back. We're going to get straight back into it with the New York Knicks. Now this one is kind of juicy for me actually. They're sort of

00:17:33.76
Adz
The New York Knickerbockers

00:17:33.80
youcantcompthis
one that I'm very interested to talk about and then after that there's some sort of like really good sort of mid-tier guys to sort of consider. So I think Jalen Bronson is the one that is the obvious one here and I think where I was at with him in the last 12 months was I felt like there was potential there but I just really wasn't too sure

00:17:53.37
Adz
Mm.

00:17:54.18
youcantcompthis
how much further he could go. So he last traded at $300. Now where I currently sit with Jaylen Bronson is I actually think he's going to go into the next tier.

00:17:58.77
Adz
Okay.

00:18:03.54
youcantcompthis
So he's trading at more than what Jaylen Brown is, but less than what Tatum is. So he's sort of in between those two.

00:18:11.73
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:14.23
youcantcompthis
I consider this a buy. And the reason I do is because of the market that he's in, you know, New York is definitely a basketball town.

00:18:17.85
Adz
Okay.

00:18:23.97
Adz
Yep.

00:18:24.49
youcantcompthis
I would also say too, that the investment that the Knicks made in the off season was significant. I think getting the Cal bridges into that system in the theme system, that is like, you know, old defense and hustle.

00:18:32.65
Adz
Hmm.

00:18:36.98
youcantcompthis
And also you literally need an iron man and bridges and never missed a game.

00:18:40.83
Adz
Yep.

00:18:41.18
youcantcompthis
And so, I mean, sort of,

00:18:43.28
Adz
Well, that the injuries it might have been what cost them. Yeah. Yeah.

00:18:47.23
youcantcompthis
Definitely they had injury problems last year, but they've really added to their depth. They're a little bit weak at the center position and Zach Lowe did a really good podcast about that this week. So if you want to hear about the Nick center position, um, listen to that podcast, but at the same time, i'm getting back to Jalen Brunson.

00:18:59.17
Adz
Yep.

00:19:03.13
youcantcompthis
I think he's going to go into that next sort of tier and. Will his hobby love, you know, go into the next tier two? You know, I think it's fair to say, yes, he will.

00:19:12.51
Adz
Interesting.

00:19:12.66
youcantcompthis
Population on this is moderate. It's 541. So you could sort of argue that's a bit of a detractor, but at the same time.

00:19:17.52
Adz
Okay.

00:19:21.39
Adz
Given the population counts of um players from that this draft class, 541 is not terrible.

00:19:27.56
youcantcompthis
It's not horrible. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So look, yeah, I like this. And I think this is one that I'm probably going to be looking at the most this year.

00:19:35.42
Adz
you wanna check in a couple of times throughout the season. Look, it's...

00:19:37.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'm just really curious to sort of see where this ends up.

00:19:38.18
Adz
it's so So correct me if I'm wrong, you're really giving this sort of the rocket ship analogy where this has taken off.

00:19:40.08
youcantcompthis
You know, am I putting personally my money into it? I'm not, I'm looking at collecting different things, but you know, I just, I like the play here. I think that's where I'm sort of going with that.

00:19:50.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:19:55.57
Adz
Like 12 months ago, this card was selling for $100, right?

00:19:57.10
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:19:59.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:20:00.68
Adz
It's now tripled in value, so 200% growth.

00:20:03.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:20:04.45
Adz
Are we going to see another 200% growth? Is this going to move up into that stratosphere with Tatum?

00:20:10.22
youcantcompthis
Maybe not, maybe not 200%, but I suppose where I'm going with this is why can't this card keep going up?

00:20:17.18
Adz
Yeah. with the knicks If the nicks are succeeding and this guy's at the front of it, I would i would tend to say he's about to get the Alpha status.

00:20:17.99
youcantcompthis
You know, yeah.

00:20:26.21
youcantcompthis
And I miss saying this before, but he's also the people's choice. I think the contract that he signed in the offseason where he left a hundred million dollars on the table so that they could get bridges and keep OG, like people that goes into people's psyche.

00:20:35.33
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:41.05
youcantcompthis
And I think like that is important for the narrative you know piece too. Plus he saved New York basketball. I think that's the other thing. you know like

00:20:49.64
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:50.64
youcantcompthis
I think what this guy's doing is actually, you know, really special and important.

00:20:50.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:53.72
Adz
It's Yeah, for sure.

00:20:54.49
youcantcompthis
So yeah.

00:20:55.83
Adz
For sure.

00:20:56.08
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right. So moving on to the next guy's bridges. We have already spoken about him, but let's keep going. $77 he's currently trading out for a silver PSA 10.

00:21:06.29
youcantcompthis
The population on this is high. It's 800.

00:21:09.73
Adz
Yeah.

00:21:10.10
youcantcompthis
So look, where I'm at with this is I think at that price, that's a fine price. I think, you know, you use the phrase sometimes future pricing, I think that's current pricing.

00:21:18.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:21:19.12
youcantcompthis
So can this card go up? Yes, it can go up, but it's solely dependent on the Knicks having a deep playoff run, maybe even them getting to the finals. You know, so what's the issue with that?

00:21:30.04
youcantcompthis
Or what's the things that's gonna hold them back? The East is gonna be brutal this year. You know, I think Boston's gonna be back.

00:21:35.07
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:21:36.57
youcantcompthis
I really liked the Bucks at the moment. I think there's no reason to, you know, count them out. And then there's other teams like the Magic and then there's like Philadelphia that's going to be there. So I think, you know, the East is going to be brutal this year.

00:21:47.87
youcantcompthis
It's going to be sick basketball. Like that's going to be great for.

00:21:49.50
Adz
I think it's going to be a lot of really cool basketball in the in the East.

00:21:51.41
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. So that's where I'm sort of, you know, yeah, I think this is a good buy, but at the same time too, it's also very much dependent on, you know, what else sort of, you know, plays out.

00:21:57.08
Adz
Okay.

00:22:02.01
Adz
Yeah, I feel like theyre those those not top end players, so the the ones that aren't the number one, definitely it's narrative driven.

00:22:02.24
youcantcompthis
Um,

00:22:11.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:22:12.11
Adz
Like a team success.

00:22:13.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:22:14.86
Adz
role players, it's it can be very, it can be very, I suppose, success driven is the word.

00:22:21.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:22:22.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:22:23.87
youcantcompthis
Then the last one I've got for the Knicks is OG and Anubi. And I think the reason I put this one is because I've actually had my own sort of personal interest in this gentleman. And he's the type of guy that same as Paul Zingas, the price that you pay for him, I think is cheaper than what his total talent base is.

00:22:33.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:22:39.15
Adz
yeah

00:22:39.36
youcantcompthis
And so when I look at this, I'm like, actually, this is a really good buy. So he's currently trading at $43. You know, I like this for the price point, but it also gets to a point to where, you know, how many teams are we through now with, we're through three teams.

00:22:51.58
youcantcompthis
We've spoken about 10 different players.

00:22:53.55
Adz
Mmm Mmm Yeah And buy all of them You can't, you can't

00:22:54.76
youcantcompthis
How many cards can you buy? At what point do you start sort of, you know, filtering and, you know, sifting out some of these players? And and maybe this is the truth of it. OG is one of these guys that look, he's a really good player. You know, he's got a lot of talent, but you so have to sort of sift some of these guys out and just sort of say, look, I'm not going to, you know, dive into this. yeah I mean, you can't buy everything, right? Yeah. So, you know, you know, what's better to buy? Are you going to buy bridges or are you going to buy OG? And maybe, yeah. Anyway, look,

00:23:25.62
youcantcompthis
If you do want to buy this, I don't mind it. I think the price is fine. The population is 259, so there's a lot of room to grow there.

00:23:33.72
Adz
True.

00:23:34.33
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:23:34.57
Adz
True. Heaps of growth potential.

00:23:35.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:23:36.36
Adz
And, and I think there's opportunities for people to try different things.

00:23:40.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:23:41.27
Adz
That's the thing because you can't, you're right. You can't buy anything. So I don't know.

00:23:46.84
youcantcompthis
Moving on, 76ers, I'm really interested to talk about this one and I've just narrowed it down to two players on this team. I think this is in my head, the two that are hobby relevant is Tyrese Maxi and Joel Embiid.

00:23:59.35
Adz
Agreed.

00:23:59.52
youcantcompthis
Maxi for me is in the same conversation as Jalen Brunson.

00:24:03.59
Adz
oh ye

00:24:04.02
youcantcompthis
So you talk about somebody who, you know, has the potential to go up higher. And I think last year, actually, I feel like the narrative for me is exactly the same as Bronson. I was like, I was watching these prices go up and I'm like, you know, how much more is he's going to go up?

00:24:17.03
youcantcompthis
And then after seeing him at the end of the year and even in the p playoffs, I'm almost like now there's a lot of talk around Embiid about him being, he's been the league MVP.

00:24:28.55
Adz
Oh, yeah.

00:24:28.89
youcantcompthis
and So what I'm about to sort of say is almost like blasphemy in some ways, but I actually almost see him as potentially being the best player in Philadelphia because

00:24:37.05
Adz
o

00:24:38.10
youcantcompthis
I think Embiid has got so much talent and and so much ability to impact the basketball game. Like um this is not a diss about Embiid, but there's also the piece around his injury status, his his fitness, his maintenance on the basketball court. And I think that's where Maxi is the complete opposite. Like his conditioning is like a ah boxer that can go for 12 rounds or you know an extreme triathlete like and you never really think of this guy as being injured so I think that's where I see his value to that team is that you know maybe actually

00:25:02.15
Adz
and Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:25:11.65
Adz
Yep.

00:25:13.57
youcantcompthis
more sets and more plays are going to be run through Maxi because he's going to be the consistent piece and then Embiid sort of almost fits around Maxi and that's kind of cool too you know because then you've got this amazing talent you know fitting around and I feel like my basketball fantasy was actually when Kobe Bryant was the second option to Shaq because you think about Kobe Bryant catching the ball in the wing

00:25:32.04
Adz
Yes.

00:25:35.86
youcantcompthis
with no one on him because like, you know, people have rotated off going down to Shaq and then Kobe's just scoring in space. And, you know, if you sort of, yeah, if you roll reverse that around, whereas Maxi's drawing defenders and kicking out to Embiid and Embiid's just got all this space to work in, like that's a really, you know, six of like one, two tandem.

00:25:43.39
Adz
It's that one-two punch though, right? Yeah.

00:25:54.82
Adz
So so you' what you're saying is Embiid and Maxi are the new Shaq and Kobe.

00:26:00.31
youcantcompthis
Definitely not. I'm just trying to paint like a bit of a basketball ball analogy, but Yeah, so look, he's trading at $323, the population on that's $515.

00:26:06.18
Adz
Could be.

00:26:10.75
youcantcompthis
Look, if this is a $500 card, I'm not going to be shocked. Honestly, it's already

00:26:15.29
Adz
I can see this taking taking a step up.

00:26:18.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's already traded at 450 at one point. So it's not outrageous to say that it's going to get back to that and eclipse it. So I yeah, I just I really like this.

00:26:29.06
youcantcompthis
I'm really intrigued by it. I think Maxi has got a lot of you know room to grow still in terms of his career potential. So yeah, I'm really high on this kid, actually.

00:26:35.43
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:38.17
youcantcompthis
I love watching him play basketball. And then let's talk about Embiid. This is a really like interesting one for me because Population on his silver PSA-9 is 62.

00:26:49.31
youcantcompthis
There's no sales data on the silver PSA-10 on CardLadder. So this is a little bit limited conversation.

00:26:53.70
Adz
Wow.

00:26:55.52
youcantcompthis
So it's not a like for like comparison, but his nine is trading at 168.

00:26:58.09
Adz
o

00:27:01.08
youcantcompthis
So let's just say that his 10 is trading at double that, maybe even more.

00:27:06.32
Adz
Just gonna see if I can see the pop report on it.

00:27:06.60
youcantcompthis
Let's just round it up to $400.

00:27:10.25
Adz
There's okay.

00:27:10.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:27:10.69
Adz
So no, there's 88 10s. And they're current.

00:27:12.89
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:27:13.31
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:14.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:27:14.90
Adz
Okay.

00:27:15.60
youcantcompthis
So, you know, I've been really fascinated by Nicola Jokic in the last six months. And I think if you've been listening, you know, to my content and, you know, watching stuff on Instagram, there's been a lot of Jokic stuff going up, but almost I can sort of see myself going down this same sort of rabbit hole with MB'd of like having this ultra talent.

00:27:34.78
youcantcompthis
They've won really important national awards. And if he's adding championships to that pedigree too, you know, I think are these cards actually really good bias now to hold for the next, you know, 10 years?

00:27:46.20
youcantcompthis
I'm not talking about a quick flip here. I don't think that that's the narrative on, you know, someone like Embiid.

00:27:48.33
Adz
No.

00:27:51.52
Adz
Oh.

00:27:51.98
youcantcompthis
But again, for that price and the talent point, I think there's a bit of a mismatch here and and I'm quite intrigued by it. The detractors are obviously the injury history and also he's a big guy.

00:28:02.82
youcantcompthis
You know, people aren't, you know, generally trading for that sort of stuff.

00:28:05.36
Adz
arent Big on Bigs.

00:28:05.70
youcantcompthis
but Yeah, but it's still, it's yeah, definitely worth watching.

00:28:08.69
Adz
Market, yeah.

00:28:12.69
youcantcompthis
All right. Do you reckon we can do one more and go to our next breakout?

00:28:15.57
Adz
Yeah, let's do it.

00:28:16.47
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:28:16.57
Adz
Smash through it.

00:28:17.43
youcantcompthis
Toronto Raptors. Now the one line slogan I put on this one is a lot of prospects to choose from here. So this is a prospect is delight. If you just want to prospect one team,

00:28:28.89
youcantcompthis
Um, go to the Toronto Raptors. Now I'm going to slag Scotty Barnes here. So Scotty Barnes is X went on to Twitter this week and basically did this whole thing about him.

00:28:41.10
youcantcompthis
ah dating her through high school, dating her through university, she moves to Toronto to another country, she finishes her masters, then he mysteriously just breaks up with her without any explanation.

00:28:46.53
Adz
Hm hm.

00:28:53.54
youcantcompthis
And then a month later, he's impregnated a much older, I don't think we need to say the appearance of the woman, but ah she, she mentioned that quite a few times, you know, in there, but um,

00:29:00.84
Adz
No.

00:29:06.39
youcantcompthis
He impregnated a much older cougar. I think that's probably like the the phrase to use, isn't it? So she's a little bit salty at the moment. And I actually think that Scotty Barnes should be slammed for this in his hobby value.

00:29:19.78
youcantcompthis
So I'm putting Scotty Barnes as a very strong sell just for his like his act on this here. But all jokes aside, yeah.

00:29:27.45
Adz
I don't think the market agrees with you.

00:29:31.83
youcantcompthis
All jokes aside, Scotty Barnes, PSA 10, population 300, currently trading at $150.

00:29:37.74
Adz
Hmm.

00:29:39.66
youcantcompthis
You know, I think the confidence for me is, is quiet Leonard. His skill set is so broad on both ends of the court.

00:29:43.92
Adz
Oh, yeah.

00:29:46.53
youcantcompthis
I had the privilege of seeing Scotty Barnes play in person and it was a sick experience. I almost would put it in the same sentence as seeing LeBron play, like his physical presence on the court.

00:29:56.77
Adz
Wow.

00:29:58.20
youcantcompthis
He's a big boy man. Like, yeah, and he the amount of court that he covers is insane.

00:29:59.59
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:03.46
youcantcompthis
So look, I old jokes aside, apart from his dog act that he did, I really love Scotty Barnes.

00:30:04.27
Adz
Okay.

00:30:10.42
youcantcompthis
But I'm just not that high in terms of his like, hobby love, you know, I don't think he has that fruit

00:30:16.13
Adz
Does he not have the hobby love because he's stuck in Toronto or?

00:30:19.76
youcantcompthis
I think part of it is like his game. You know, I think his game is very nuanced. It's very, you know, three-dimensional.

00:30:24.26
Adz
Okay.

00:30:26.16
youcantcompthis
He can play both ends of the court and people, that's not that exciting. You know, Anthony Edwards is exciting. Lamello Ball is exciting. You know, Scottie Barnes, probably, you know, you could argue is maybe even better than Edwards on both ends of the court, but of

00:30:34.74
Adz
Yeah. He's Scotty Barnes. Yeah, he's efficient. I don't think Edwards would agree.

00:30:46.94
youcantcompthis
course Edwards wouldn't. Edwards's ego is like, you know, bigger than that story that his ex just dumped, you know?

00:30:55.92
youcantcompthis
That was probably my favorite story of the week. I'm not going to lie to you.

00:30:58.48
Adz
Fair, fair.

00:30:59.59
youcantcompthis
that Alrighty, so we've got Scotty Barnes covered. Scotty Barnes, you're a sell. Quickly, now quickly is interesting for me because the Raptors invested a lot of money into this kid, like a lot of money.

00:31:12.62
Adz
Mmm.

00:31:13.70
youcantcompthis
So he's currently trading at raw for $4.50. I think the play here is you buy 10 of them and you send them off to PSA hoping that a few come back as 10. he'll pop and then you you know flip them out i think that's the play there but obviously there's some risk that comes along with that now his psa 10s the reason i say that is because his psa 10s sold for 70 65 67 and 80 so in terms of just doing the pure mathematics the the definitely the play is there yeah uh the last one i think we should probably talk about too in terms of

00:31:25.08
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:31:44.76
Adz
yeah Yep.

00:31:49.00
youcantcompthis
um prospecting but also someone who's a bit more established is RJ Barrett.

00:31:54.82
Adz
Cool, that's an interesting one.

00:31:55.48
youcantcompthis
Now the problem with this though is it's not the price point, it's the population. So the population on this is 1380, trading for $57.

00:32:06.27
youcantcompthis
I probably think the better thing to to do here is buy a numbered card.

00:32:08.05
Adz
which Yeah, to explain that though, yeah, I was gonna say if this is part of that, Isn't he the the Jamaranth year?

00:32:19.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so this is John Maramp, but also the New York market.

00:32:20.14
Adz
So it's it's it's it's the title wave of the New Year, but everybody graded this.

00:32:23.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah, sure.

00:32:25.32
Adz
He was...

00:32:25.51
youcantcompthis
He was in a massive market and there was a lot of hype around this kid.

00:32:28.69
Adz
Yeah, correct.

00:32:29.01
youcantcompthis
And I don't think the reason he was traded so much was his lack of talent. I think it was his lack of mesh with Tibbs.

00:32:40.24
youcantcompthis
And so what you could see in Toronto is him actually, you know, reaching his full potential.

00:32:40.96
Adz
That's true. Stepping up and...

00:32:46.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:46.56
Adz
Yeah.

00:32:47.51
youcantcompthis
But really here, I think you do need to move away from the silvers, the population on this.

00:32:52.67
Adz
Stop. Yeah.

00:32:53.67
youcantcompthis
That's that's not collectible. You know, that's like a Pokemon card.

00:32:55.66
Adz
That's Kobe White level.

00:32:57.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:32:58.15
Adz
Yeah.

00:32:58.66
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right, mate. Final thoughts on the Knicks and we'll go to our next ad.

00:33:04.03
Adz
On the Raptors, you mean?

00:33:05.72
youcantcompthis
Sorry.

00:33:07.40
Adz
I know we just looked at two next cards.

00:33:08.94
youcantcompthis
I had the RJ Barrett and his rookie cards in a Knicks uniform.

00:33:09.04
Adz
I know, I know.

00:33:12.66
Adz
Yeah, same as Quigley, yeah.

00:33:12.94
youcantcompthis
So thank you for correcting me. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

00:33:16.84
Adz
Both of them, well, they were traded obviously, part of that, yeah. But of last season's big moves.

00:33:21.63
youcantcompthis
Oh, gee. Yeah.

00:33:25.06
Adz
But yeah, no, I think there's a lot of room to move and it's teams like the Raptors where there's a lot of fun to be had.

00:33:25.31
youcantcompthis
All righty.

00:33:30.24
Adz
But beware, don't expect to become like the next big Gary V selling Raptors cards.

00:33:35.66
youcantcompthis
Gary V. Yeah.

00:33:38.60
Adz
It's probably not the biggest of markets.

00:33:39.27
youcantcompthis
but On the next Ken Golden. Yeah.

00:33:41.12
Adz
Yeah, that's it.

00:33:42.77
youcantcompthis
I still think there's a play there on that quickly, like buying raws and sending them off.

00:33:45.27
Adz
Oh, sure.

00:33:46.25
youcantcompthis
There's not that, like usually the equation is it's quite like small margins.

00:33:49.89
Adz
Mmm.

00:33:49.92
youcantcompthis
Whereas to me, that's almost like a 10X. Like that's quite interesting.

00:33:53.22
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, true.

00:33:54.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All righty. Fastbreaktradingcards dot.com. Thank you so much to Alvero and John for supporting us. We really appreciate your sponsorship.

00:34:08.85
youcantcompthis
Check out the lads at fastbreaktradingcards dot.com. Now, if you go onto their website, use the promo code YCCC10. I think I might have said too many C's then, but it's YCCC10.

00:34:20.01
Adz
See, it's not Y triple C, it's YCCT 10. Also, which stands for you can't comp this.

00:34:28.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah, now I'm thinking about chips and CCs actually. So anyway, if you use that promo code, you will get 10% off the fanatics memorabilia.

00:34:32.06
Adz
And T.

00:34:37.69
youcantcompthis
Last week we spoke about the Bob Coosy Mitchell and Ness, which I still think is my favorite jersey that they've got for sale on there. It also comes with the Hall of Fame 71 inscription.

00:34:49.00
youcantcompthis
That's 895 AUD with a 10% off code. Now I'm gonna do a little bit of salesman pitch here at the moment. If you are looking to get fanatics memorabilia,

00:34:58.25
Adz
um

00:34:58.55
youcantcompthis
at the moment, Fanatics is currently not selling to Australia due to the lawsuit. So if you are looking for Fanatics memorabilia in Australia, I think the boys at Fastbreak Trading Cards are a really good option because they've already got all the stock here and they're still legally allowed to sell it.

00:35:13.27
youcantcompthis
So they might actually have the market cornered at the moment in terms of the volume of Fanatics memorabilia.

00:35:14.16
Adz
um Yeah.

00:35:20.06
Adz
For sure.

00:35:20.87
youcantcompthis
They also have sealed product. They have packets. They've got boxes. Check out the lads. They will always take very good care of you.

00:35:34.43
youcantcompthis
All righty, Adam, how are you feeling? How is your, your break?

00:35:38.11
Adz
Very refreshing, very refreshing. I am, I'm hydrated, it's water.

00:35:40.81
youcantcompthis
What are you drinking today? Actually, I didn't ask you that. Just water.

00:35:44.12
Adz
Yeah, in in lead up to the Grand Final, it's definitely water.

00:35:46.01
youcantcompthis
Yep. Prehydrate.

00:35:48.03
Adz
That pre-hydrating, because so it is, it's it's very much preparation for a very, very big

00:35:49.79
youcantcompthis
So basically for the next 30 hours or so, you're just going to be hydrating, pretty hydrating.

00:35:57.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:35:59.24
Adz
a day full of celebration, hopefully, or or commiseration, one or the other, there'll be whatever it is, it'll be big.

00:36:02.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:36:08.53
youcantcompthis
Chicago Bulls. Josh Giddy is the obvious headliner here after being exiled from Oklahoma City,

00:36:16.77
Adz
Exiled.

00:36:17.44
youcantcompthis
You might argue he was also made the scapegoat for their playoff performances, but at the same time, I think it's a fantastic opportunity for him.

00:36:23.30
Adz
We'll see you next season, won't we?

00:36:26.04
youcantcompthis
And I really think he's landed on his feet. He's landed in a massive market on a team that desperately needs size, rebounding, playmaking, defense. And I think he's going to fit in absolutely seamlessly.

00:36:38.63
youcantcompthis
I'm very interested to see where they put him positionally, because I actually imagine him playing maybe at the three.

00:36:41.41
Adz
Hmm.

00:36:44.81
Adz
Okay.

00:36:46.48
youcantcompthis
then they can play Levine and Kobe White at the same time, which is kind of, I'm very curious on that.

00:36:50.83
Adz
um Yeah, how they utilize it will be very interesting.

00:36:51.73
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:36:54.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah. all Alrighty, so if you look at his silver PSA 10s in the last 12 months, he's actually down 58%. However, if we zoom in a little bit closer to say three months, he's actually up 13%.

00:37:06.65
youcantcompthis
So I think what that means to me is that the sentiment is kind of saying he's been traded to a better position and now we're already starting to see that uptick.

00:37:08.07
Adz
Hmm.

00:37:15.52
Adz
hmm former former greatness.

00:37:15.75
youcantcompthis
So can he recover to his sale of 250, absolutely I think he can. I think, so that means to me this is just a buy.

00:37:24.27
Adz
ye Yeah.

00:37:26.99
youcantcompthis
His population on this is relatively low, it's at 148. I like this for a lot of different reasons, including the reason of just him getting a fresh start.

00:37:37.81
youcantcompthis
I think the way that it ended in Oklahoma probably wasn't fantastic.

00:37:42.04
Adz
Yep.

00:37:42.37
youcantcompthis
And I think if we're being transparent about that conversation, I think that issue that he went through in terms of age of consent and that sort of whole social media, you know, thing

00:37:52.94
Adz
Well, the narrative that yeah, okay.

00:37:54.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah ah you know and the allegations you know let's just let's just keep it you know 100 there was nothing actually you know charged or formally done but you know I think he needed a yeah look I think a fresh start is gonna be you know fantastic for him so I'm very high on this.

00:38:03.06
Adz
Yep. There's alleged there was an investigation. It was cleared. Yep. Yep.

00:38:11.81
youcantcompthis
ah The next one that I'm personally interested in is Pat Williams because he came into the league insanely young and he's still a very young man despite being in the league now for four years

00:38:23.39
Adz
Yeah.

00:38:24.09
youcantcompthis
His silvers are just training at a dollar. you know i Sometimes I see these things and I'm like, do people not watch basketball? Do people just get so distracted by a new product and you know new prospects that are coming out?

00:38:39.33
Adz
Yeah.

00:38:40.09
youcantcompthis
And we're gonna be talking about this for the next 12 months because probably where I'm sitting at the moment is this draft class we're gonna be entering in you know very shortly is gonna be not good.

00:38:51.21
youcantcompthis
In fact, you might say it's actually quite terrible. And I'm going to be looking at the last couple of years to go back and actually pick up players who have gone out of the excitement phase and actually now developing into good players.

00:39:02.73
youcantcompthis
So Pat Williams, I'm putting squarely into that. Look, I actually, I really love his game. I think that he's obviously maybe got some confidence issues that he could do more on the basketball court, but he absolutely has the physical tools and also the skill tools to do it.

00:39:12.98
Adz
Yeah, yep

00:39:18.11
youcantcompthis
It's just whether he can, you know, put it all together consistently.

00:39:21.14
Adz
In one, yeah

00:39:22.13
youcantcompthis
And know I've said this before, you watch him, when he puts his head down and decides he's going to the basket, no one can stop him. Like there's a little bit of LeBron James rolling to the basket and he's like, you know, like a freight train that no one wants to step in front of.

00:39:28.03
Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's true.

00:39:33.44
Adz
You just, it's that freight train feel.

00:39:35.44
youcantcompthis
He's a big boy, you know?

00:39:36.75
Adz
Yep.

00:39:37.60
youcantcompthis
And I think with the flexibility of his skillset and also the way the league is going in terms of that sort of positionless basketball, you know, I like it.

00:39:37.81
Adz
Yep.

00:39:45.85
Adz
So that bit of, yeah.

00:39:46.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:47.40
Adz
Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

00:39:48.01
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So look, the question is, is how much money can you make off Pat Williams? You know, that's really the question, isn't it?

00:39:54.92
Adz
yeah

00:39:56.62
youcantcompthis
And my answer is, well, actually, ah I'm not really too sure, but I like him as a prospect.

00:40:02.46
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:02.98
youcantcompthis
um The other one I think is just a really quick notation is AO Dossumu. I did like him, but actually I'm beginning to think now he's going to be squeezed out by Giddy. So I couldn't find very much on pricing, but I did find a really nice

00:40:17.60
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:17.67
youcantcompthis
a silver cracked ice and a red cracked ice on him in terms of the color match. I think that's kind of good.

00:40:23.79
Adz
Let's

00:40:25.63
youcantcompthis
Cleveland Cavaliers, I've labeled them as unexciting. So I think this might be the fastest ah run through we're going to do here, mate.

00:40:31.14
Adz
be quick.

00:40:33.50
youcantcompthis
So we've got the three names I highlighted. There was Evan Mobley, Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland. All very good prospects in their own space.

00:40:42.66
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:42.89
youcantcompthis
But at the same time, there's not a lot happening here. So Evan Mobley, red cracked ice for 61 Canadian and orange ice for 58 Canadian.

00:40:50.82
Adz
Yes.

00:40:53.14
youcantcompthis
He's not on card letter so these are all 130 point comps. Purple wave PSA 10 for 56 and probably the one that I like the most is the blue diamond which is the 75th anniversary one PSA 10 for 45 USD.

00:41:06.77
Adz
oh Very nice.

00:41:06.95
youcantcompthis
You know I think that's appropriately priced. Do I think he's going to go up and be $450 at some point. No, I don't.

00:41:16.39
Adz
Probably not.

00:41:16.78
youcantcompthis
That's like, that's a really quick conversation, isn't it?

00:41:19.43
Adz
Yep.

00:41:20.64
youcantcompthis
Donovan Mitchell is a little bit different. He's on Card Ladder. He has the pedigree of being someone that was very heavily prospected.

00:41:25.97
Adz
Yep.

00:41:31.11
youcantcompthis
And a lot of money has gone into this young man, you know, over time. So if you look at his all time sales data, he was up to 2,700 at one point for his silver PSA 10.

00:41:35.69
Adz
Yeah. Yep.

00:41:43.56
youcantcompthis
I'm not even going to caveat that anymore with that being the COVID time. He's still sold for that much.

00:41:47.18
Adz
It doesn't matter.

00:41:47.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:41:48.08
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:48.28
youcantcompthis
He's currently trading at 165. Look at 165 population of 617. I've got no problem with that.

00:41:55.11
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:55.45
youcantcompthis
Again, this, yeah.

00:41:55.63
Adz
I think he's sort of found his spot. I don't, I don't see, as you said, very unexciting. Like it's just gonna, it's stable.

00:42:00.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah. It's the Pat Williams comment though. It's how much money can you make off this guy? Look, you know, I don't think, you know, very much now in saying that Darius Gullen, this is probably the one that I'm the most interested in.

00:42:05.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:12.24
youcantcompthis
He's a guard. If someone does get squeezed out, I've got a really funny feeling they're going to stay with Donovan Mitchell and push out Garland.

00:42:14.38
Adz
Mmm.

00:42:20.69
Adz
and Okay.

00:42:20.86
youcantcompthis
And I'm going to put him into the Josh Giddy conversation of he actually just might need a first start. Currently trading at $58. The major detractor here is the population 1,616.

00:42:31.81
Adz
Yeah. That's insane.

00:42:34.53
youcantcompthis
Now, let's just really quickly rotate here.

00:42:38.75
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:39.17
youcantcompthis
Fastbreak purple numbered to 75, population on this is 27, is trading for $182. So I think if you're gonna go deep on this guy, that's the type of stuff you buy.

00:42:49.53
youcantcompthis
Peace A10's numbered, even if the color match doesn't work, extremely low population.

00:42:50.90
Adz
Yeah, yep.

00:42:55.89
youcantcompthis
And I think that's where you can potentially see if he does get traded to a new but you know situation and becomes his full peace.

00:43:00.50
Adz
um Yeah.

00:43:02.41
youcantcompthis
Like imagine if he gets traded to the Warriors. I think a Darius Gahl and Steph Curry backcourt would be you know very, very interesting.

00:43:05.42
Adz
Yeah, true, true, true.

00:43:11.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right. Detroit Pistons. This is another prospecting team. you know I think the the notation on this I've got is that you're not going to make quick money off these guys.

00:43:22.54
youcantcompthis
I think all of these guys are sort of five-year purchases because yeah like realistically this team is two years away from competing three or four years away from the playoffs and you know who knows after that if they can actually compete for a championship.

00:43:24.84
Adz
long-term acquisitions.

00:43:38.06
youcantcompthis
All of that in my mind is hinged around this young man named Cade Cunningham. I've been on the record about this guy I would say multiple times and I'm actually not going to change my narrative or tune around that.

00:43:50.70
youcantcompthis
I think this guy is an all-MBA talent in terms of all-MBA first team, potentially in the future.

00:43:51.41
Adz
hu

00:43:59.27
youcantcompthis
Population on this is 296. The last trading price on this was 256.

00:44:04.41
Adz
Mmm.

00:44:05.18
youcantcompthis
All-time high sales debt on this is actually a thousand dollars. So look, I really like it.

00:44:10.45
Adz
Yikes.

00:44:12.17
youcantcompthis
You know, I think the difficulty is probably for this guy is like

00:44:14.65
Adz
Mmm.

00:44:15.79
youcantcompthis
for Aussies is the US to Australian exchange rate. If that makes sense, like that's to me where I sort of sit with this. I think this is a really good buy.

00:44:27.07
youcantcompthis
For me, the real question is, do I buy it now or do I wait six months?

00:44:30.79
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:31.70
youcantcompthis
you know that That's where I'm really heading with this. I like this guy's talent a lot.

00:44:35.94
Adz
Yep, agreed.

00:44:37.24
youcantcompthis
um If you're looking further down the roster and you want to dabble a little bit in terms of you know prospecting, you can look at Azure Thompson. A silver PSA 10 recently sold for $49 USD.

00:44:48.56
youcantcompthis
A pink ice sold for $27.

00:44:49.03
Adz
Yep.

00:44:51.57
youcantcompthis
And then there's this one here, which is a little bit of an interesting one. This is the Hoops box hit, the presentations, which is done by the same guy that did the original Kaboomz that sold for $90 USD.

00:44:56.21
Adz
Mmm.

00:45:04.62
youcantcompthis
Look,

00:45:04.70
Adz
Some good, some interesting options there.

00:45:06.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I think all of those prices, actually, I'll call those future prices because he had some injury issues.

00:45:11.62
Adz
Cho.

00:45:14.18
youcantcompthis
he um If I'm getting the twin right, he had the blood clot problem, which actually does put me off him a lot. So I would definitely wait and see on this kid. I wouldn't be jumping into it.

00:45:24.78
Adz
And chat, yeah, yeah, fair.

00:45:25.99
youcantcompthis
ah We're one year further down the track, though, with Jade and Ivy. So Jade and Ivy is currently trading for a silver PSA 10 at $66.

00:45:30.64
Adz
Mm.

00:45:35.00
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:36.00
youcantcompthis
He's not on card ladder, so this is a 130-point search that I screenshotted. What did come up, though, was his blank slate for 305. We've spoken about blank slates in terms of forever cards, just like downtown.

00:45:50.04
Adz
Wow.

00:45:52.03
youcantcompthis
So I think maybe this is where you start to look for someone like Jaden Ivey, if you believe in his talent.

00:45:57.89
Adz
That's really true. And yeah.

00:45:59.03
youcantcompthis
There were some jammer ant comparisons floating around for a while on this kid. You know, that's actually not horrible.

00:46:03.96
Adz
The thing is, you've got to see some success, I think, from him. That's one, like, ah if Detroit are going to sit at the bottom for a decade, he's probably going to be a good player and a bad team.

00:46:13.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think the issue in my mind for these guys last year was Monty Williams. He didn't fit into Monty Williams' perspective on basketball.

00:46:20.14
Adz
yet the Yeah, Yeah, that's true.

00:46:21.91
youcantcompthis
And now that Williams has been fired and he's probably going to be sitting on a beach in Cancun for the next five years, maybe Ivy will get rolled out a bit more this year.

00:46:31.02
Adz
Yeah, maybe.

00:46:32.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All righty. Adam, I think we're going to struggle to get through all these mate in the next 15 minutes, but let's do one more and then we'll go to our next break.

00:46:37.42
Adz
I think we might.

00:46:41.52
youcantcompthis
here All right.

00:46:42.41
Adz
Yep.

00:46:45.04
youcantcompthis
Indiana paces. Now this is this is a fun one for me because there's a lot of plays on here actually I personally like so let's just really quickly do Halliburton.

00:46:49.23
Adz
Surely that's an obvious one. Yeah.

00:46:56.84
youcantcompthis
Halliburton population on this is 404, PSA 10 silver, last traded at 305. Let's put him in the same conversation as Jalen Brunson.

00:47:07.61
Adz
Oh Brunson.

00:47:11.12
youcantcompthis
Why not? You know I think he's that

00:47:13.44
Adz
i I think because he's ah an c assist guy, not a points guy, he might struggle.

00:47:14.54
youcantcompthis
headlining talent yeah look his shot is weird but i think if he is going to go to the next level he has to score a little bit more and he i wouldn't say he didn't shoot shots last year but i agree with you his game is to play make and set people up but look he was on team usa he didn't play a lot like that's true but

00:47:29.17
Adz
Probably. Hmm.

00:47:39.54
Adz
Yeah, but he was on that team. that that That shows the caliber of play we're talking about.

00:47:44.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, he's actually had a lot of growth anyway in the last 12 months. He actually, I lied to you, in the last 12 months, he's down 20%.

00:47:48.81
Adz
Yep.

00:47:51.85
Adz
He's down.

00:47:53.95
youcantcompthis
So where did he have his growth? He must have had it in the last two years.

00:47:56.90
Adz
It was definitely in the last two years, but he i mean he ebbed and flowed.

00:47:57.23
youcantcompthis
No. No.

00:48:00.42
Adz
it was ah It was more spikes than anything.

00:48:01.02
youcantcompthis
Yeah, actually, he's been really up and down, hasn't he? Yeah.

00:48:04.25
Adz
Yeah, bottomed out in 2023.

00:48:05.47
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So yeah, he was down to 238 at one point.

00:48:09.74
Adz
Mm-hmm, but yeah He was a $500 card at the start of this year Do you know what I mean like all-star weekend?

00:48:11.19
youcantcompthis
Look, I like this. You know, I think in terms of putting money into someone who has the potential to step up to the next bit at that price point, I really like it. The population's fine. You know, I would actually put that as as as a strong purchase. Yeah.

00:48:32.67
Adz
But like with the he was he was really impressing midway through the season But as the season sort of progressed on without the the paces succeeding, I'll say it sort of dripped off.

00:48:41.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:48:44.36
Adz
And it is, it's ah it's the pine pain point of one of those small market teams and he's not the the dominant scorer that Brunson is.

00:48:53.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that is true to both those points, but I feel like he's eclipsed that small market issue. I don't think that's a big deal for him.

00:49:01.69
Adz
I think he's in the he he been in the spotlight enough. Yeah, that's that would make that makes sense to me.

00:49:05.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right, this next one is ultimate high risk. So, Dries Walker. didn't play very much last year. And that's a very Rick Carlisle thing to do. He doesn't play rookies very much.

00:49:18.05
youcantcompthis
So where I'm going with this is I'm expecting him to be in the rotation this year. I like his skillset. I think he's got a long way to go in terms of developing, you know, into a fully formed NBA player, but I like what he's got there.

00:49:30.22
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:49:31.25
youcantcompthis
Silver PSA 10 sold for $37.

00:49:34.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:49:35.12
youcantcompthis
I like it a lot. I think I'll leave it at that. But again, very high risk. you know, high reward type thing.

00:49:40.86
Adz
Yeah.

00:49:43.17
youcantcompthis
We have to talk about Nembrand because I put him into my top 10 teaser. That's trading at $80. I think the way I consider him is like two years ahead of Joris Walker.

00:49:55.55
youcantcompthis
And so

00:49:56.33
Adz
yeah

00:49:57.83
youcantcompthis
the way he played in the playoffs really you know caught people's attention. And actually I can kind of imagine him, the excitement, you know continuing on with this. Where do I see this topping out?

00:50:08.41
youcantcompthis
Maybe at 120. So I don't think there's you know millions of dollars to be made here, but at the same time, I think this is someone that's got to you know keep trending upwards.

00:50:17.40
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:17.53
youcantcompthis
I think he's going to be really important to their development this year. I think if he keeps playing as well as he did, he has to be starting and playing you know big minutes this year. I'll be really surprised if he doesn't.

00:50:27.94
Adz
Yep, agreed.

00:50:28.11
youcantcompthis
Honorable mention here is Johnny Furphy, the Aussie guy who absolutely destroyed it in Summer League.

00:50:33.33
Adz
Yep.

00:50:34.29
youcantcompthis
Someone's going to be squeezed out of the rotation. Is it going to be Joyce Walker? Is it going to be Johnny Furphy? Anyway, we'll see what happens in that space. All right, ah let's go to a break.

00:50:47.95
youcantcompthis
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Adz
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00:51:16.07
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00:51:29.81
youcantcompthis
Ross is taking care of all of the back end. He will list your cards for you. He will manage the sales part of it. Everything is all sorted out there. I'm just looking at the site at the moment. He is definitely slowly filling this out and getting more people's cards onto there.

00:51:43.64
youcantcompthis
So I think that was been something, been a bit of a challenge for him. Maintaining and managing the process of getting people's cards on there, but it's definitely filling out there. So definitely check it out guys.

00:51:54.48
Adz
yeah

00:51:55.06
youcantcompthis
If you are a break up and you've got boxes of cards sitting there, contact Ross. He'll take all of those cards off your hands. He'll list them onto the site. And that's something he wants to start working towards with that too.

00:52:06.11
Adz
um yeah

00:52:07.33
youcantcompthis
So yeah, thank you so much. US Sports Cards Australia. We are back Adam. Are you ready for the last quarter?

00:52:17.04
Adz
The last quarter, this is going to be a fast and furious

00:52:20.70
youcantcompthis
We have to smash this out. We've got six teams to go in 15 minutes.

00:52:24.74
Adz
All right.

00:52:25.39
youcantcompthis
Can we do it?

00:52:25.78
Adz
All right. We'll keep it succinct. I'll try to keep my segwaying ways from escaping me.

00:52:34.75
youcantcompthis
I don't think you've really been the problem here to be honest. All right. The bucks I've limited down to three, Yarnas. Now, I'm going to put Yarnas into the same conversation as Embiid and Nikole Jokic because I'm very intrigued by this young man. 85 population on his silver PSA 10, trading at 7,400. So we're not talking about a small amount of money here, but my question is, is where is his card going to be in 10 years time?

00:53:07.73
youcantcompthis
Is this gonna be a $10,000 card? Is it gonna be a $50,000 card? Why can't this be a $100,000 card?

00:53:18.52
Adz
Can I counter that there's gonna be a $5,000 card

00:53:19.86
youcantcompthis
Go. Okay.

00:53:23.16
Adz
is is Is he gonna disappear, frazzle off into the sunset?

00:53:27.72
youcantcompthis
Let's just say he breaks his like tomorrow and never plays again.

00:53:30.11
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:32.81
youcantcompthis
His resume in my head is pretty rock solid.

00:53:35.97
Adz
Mm.

00:53:36.39
youcantcompthis
Population on this is low.

00:53:42.46
youcantcompthis
Look, I'm, yeah. This is out of my price range and I've completely missed it, but I'm putting him deliberately with Yo Kick and Embiid because I do think he's a little bit, you know, maybe underappreciated within the hobby.

00:53:57.76
youcantcompthis
And maybe the narrative I'm also trying to thread here is like, is this where we're going to see Yokek in a few years? Is this where we're going to see Embiid in maybe half the price or, you know, even a quarter of the price.

00:54:05.20
Adz
Yeah, maybe.

00:54:09.07
youcantcompthis
It's still a massive uptick. So, yeah.

00:54:12.04
Adz
Is this the, is this the, cause in my eyes, I'm like, unless he he does something big and wins again, Yannis is not a disappointment, but he's not fulfilled the expectations that we've all put on him.

00:54:18.97
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So.

00:54:25.27
youcantcompthis
Okay. Yeah, maybe. Look, so let's move to the next guy, which is Damian Lillard.

00:54:27.64
Adz
Hmm.

00:54:29.97
youcantcompthis
And I think he's going to be the important piece of Giannis winning the next championship. Population on his silver PSA 10 is 42. It's trading for $1,000. Now I'm actually really surprised by this.

00:54:42.26
youcantcompthis
In saying that,

00:54:42.46
Adz
I think this is the mover if he wins another, if they win a championship.

00:54:45.54
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So I'm a little bit actually not hot on this card. Like for me at a thousand dollars, I'm like, that is almost future pricing. And actually this card at one point traded at 10,000. So that sort of, for me, even at a thousand, I'm like, that's, that's too much for me.

00:54:58.82
Adz
Wow, okay.

00:55:01.35
youcantcompthis
And I, for me, I'm like, look, this guy needs to win a championship or maybe even two championships for it to be a thousand dollar card. But so to take your point, maybe this will be a $1,400 card if they, you know, win a chip.

00:55:07.23
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:13.48
youcantcompthis
You know, and maybe that's, maybe that's the right approach to take from it, but I'm just, yeah, I'm just not that high on, on Lillith at that price.

00:55:19.91
Adz
I, I, yeah, I feel that. I feel that.

00:55:21.85
youcantcompthis
Yeah. All right.

00:55:22.85
Adz
Who else you got?

00:55:22.91
youcantcompthis
In terms of prospecting, we've got Bo Champ here. Someone has to emerge from this roster and play meaningful minutes for them.

00:55:32.47
Adz
Yep.

00:55:32.75
youcantcompthis
I actually like Bo Champ and what he can do.

00:55:35.73
Adz
Okay.

00:55:36.26
youcantcompthis
And I do think there's potential for some movement within that roster. I don't think their roster is, you know, is set. $12 Canadian, his PSA 10 silver sold for.

00:55:45.71
Adz
Sure.

00:55:46.67
youcantcompthis
That was in June of this year. Actually, I suspect probably his prices have moved up a little bit since then. But at the same time, that to me is really, you know, juicy.

00:55:52.88
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:56.07
youcantcompthis
It's delicious. You can hold on to that. Maybe flip it out in the playoffs if they're you know going really well.

00:55:58.39
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:01.41
youcantcompthis
I like it. Yeah.

00:56:02.64
Adz
yeah Yeah.

00:56:06.99
youcantcompthis
Atlanta Hawks. Now this team for me is either going to be an absolute train wreck this year or they're going to be, you know, super fun to watch. And the one I actually put number one on this is Dyson Daniels.

00:56:17.85
youcantcompthis
He got traded there. Um, as part of the trade with the pelicans for I'm blanking at the moment, I can see his face. He was traded from the Spurs to the Hawks and then, you know, thank you.

00:56:30.22
Adz
Dejante Murray.

00:56:31.38
youcantcompthis
I was going to say, you' I was about to say, you're not helping me here, but you just said it.

00:56:34.00
Adz
No, I was thinking.

00:56:34.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:56:35.00
Adz
I was, I was waiting for the...

00:56:35.26
youcantcompthis
Yeah. processing yeah it was coming uh look i think he has a lot of potential and the reason i said is because he's got genuine mba size and his skill set is almost like a point forward type thing where he can he's like a really big guard or sort of a smaller small forward or shooting guard and so you know i think his skill set actually fits quite well with tray young because you do need someone to protect tray so

00:57:01.88
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:02.46
youcantcompthis
if he starts at the two and is facilitating and defending you know the better backcourt person you know i i kind of like this a lot you know his prices are quite low so i found this one here numbered to 299 psa 10 on his rookie year it's sold for just 15 USD so again i think if you're looking for someone to prospect on and has that sort of you know upward potential i also think to

00:57:26.52
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:28.14
youcantcompthis
Aussies have a little bit of insulation here as if you're buying these cards in the States where you know no one really cares about them you can bring them back here and I think you'll break even pretty easily because of that sort of Aussie market play too so I think that sort of gives you a little bit of you know maybe reassurances yeah

00:57:42.07
Adz
shelter. Yeah. Yep.

00:57:44.10
youcantcompthis
um

00:57:44.37
Adz
For sure.

00:57:45.03
youcantcompthis
The big boy for me is Jaylen Johnson, and I was high on this kid last year. I still feel the same way, so just really quickly some of his prices. Silver PSA 10 sold for 105. Another one sold for 80.

00:57:58.22
youcantcompthis
A Ruby Wave sold for 70 USD, which obviously is that nice sort of colour match.

00:58:03.73
Adz
Yeah.

00:58:03.89
youcantcompthis
You know, it's it's really good. I've got no problem with these prices at all. I think you can expect him to have more development this year.

00:58:10.68
Adz
yep

00:58:11.01
youcantcompthis
And then I think the sad story of the Hawks is Trey Young. So let's just really quickly talk about Trey Young. He had that group in overseas propping up his prices. They have absolutely abysmally failed.

00:58:21.65
Adz
they've pulled the the the The rug has been well and truly pulled out from Trey Young.

00:58:25.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Last sold price was $150. The population on this is just absolutely blown out to 2,355.

00:58:33.40
Adz
That's crazy.

00:58:34.20
youcantcompthis
Look, The funny thing is I actually think this could go down even more. You know, at some point, yeah, I think so because at some point, you know, the population is is just such that, you know, and also things do very much go in sort of a trending type way.

00:58:39.34
Adz
Really.

00:58:49.37
youcantcompthis
And if you're looking at the trends here, like this is, this is going down, man.

00:58:49.53
Adz
oh

00:58:52.51
youcantcompthis
You know, this is just like the Titanic, like it's, yeah.

00:58:55.27
Adz
it It feels like that, but I say it's stabilized after the last year. I think once the the big drop-off happened, i think I think it's sort of, population aside, Trey Young has the potential to be a very, very, very strong player in this league.

00:59:02.28
youcantcompthis
Sure.

00:59:06.16
youcantcompthis
Okay, so let me...

00:59:12.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but I just, I would say, well, two things I would say. I think a lot of money went into this dude.

00:59:17.78
Adz
a

00:59:18.34
youcantcompthis
And I think a lot of people got burned by it. I think that's also part of the narrative.

00:59:22.05
Adz
Yep.

00:59:22.08
youcantcompthis
Okay, fine. So if that's your opinion, I respect that. But at $150, are you buying, holding or selling that card?

00:59:30.81
Adz
I'm not. I'm not buying it.

00:59:33.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, right. So I think that that's the perfect answer, isn't it?

00:59:34.82
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:59:35.95
youcantcompthis
Right.

00:59:36.95
Adz
At this point in time, I said, he's got the, like, if he comes out and shows he is the next Steph Curry, for argument's sake, does what does that change?

00:59:37.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:59:42.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:59:46.33
Adz
Does that reshape the narrative? Does he spike?

00:59:51.06
youcantcompthis
I don't think so. Look, I think maybe some of his flawless stuff might, his IMAX stuff. Look, I think his vertical RPA is an NT.

00:59:56.93
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:58.58
youcantcompthis
That's the type of stuff where I think you can, but you know, this stuff, he's silver. No, man, that's played out to, you know, to death. Maybe you can look at his numbered stuff and, you know, maybe make a play, but I don't, okay, so fine.

01:00:07.25
Adz
Mmm, yeah.

01:00:11.82
youcantcompthis
Why would you make a play on Trae Young at this point? Like, what are you saying that his prices is, is less than his talent?

01:00:15.59
Adz
I wouldn't have, I would i would not be. i'm saying I'm saying the prices are below the talent.

01:00:18.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:00:21.41
Adz
However, if the Hawks have a successful season and all of a sudden the Dyson Daniels move and all these other moves that they've made create Golden State 2.0,

01:00:22.45
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:24.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:30.15
youcantcompthis
Sure. Yeah, sure.

01:00:33.59
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:00:35.09
Adz
and they all of a sudden become Trey starts hitting shots from everywhere and becomes the new Steph Curry, then things trend the other way.

01:00:36.99
youcantcompthis
Yep.

01:00:44.18
Adz
But I think if he's in the iteration of Trey Young that we've seen in the last two years, continues, where he's on the fringe of the All-Star, not in the All-Star kind of thing, I think he's $100 card and he stays steady.

01:00:49.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:53.40
youcantcompthis
sure yeah that's 50 bucks less though yeah okay sure yeah no yeah yep

01:00:59.68
Adz
but That's what I mean, like he bottoms, but he stables. He's not, he's not becoming, he's not gonna be, you're not picking him up in a bargain bin. He's still a premium at this stage, because he's talent.

01:01:15.01
youcantcompthis
Look, I'm, yeah, and that's, I'm probably, I'm going to put that as a stayaway. And actually this is a perfect segue into the next card. We're going to talk about Charlotte hall but Hornet's lamello ball. Now this is really interesting from my perspective to talk about in the same sentence as Trey Young, because there was a heap of hype around this. And you might even go so far to say lamello ball held up the hobby for 12 months, you know, and I feel pretty comfortable saying that.

01:01:39.79
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:40.35
youcantcompthis
Now, what's crazy about Lomelo is his all-time high sold for 6,500. If you look at the graph since that time, it's literally just a slippery dip all the way down.

01:01:51.23
youcantcompthis
So he's down 95%.

01:01:52.51
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:54.52
youcantcompthis
If you look at the last 12 months, he's down 46%.

01:01:56.71
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:58.77
youcantcompthis
But what's really interesting in contrast here is the population. And I actually thought The population on this lamello ball would be the same as Trae Young. It's not. It's the polar opposite. It's 400. I was about to say only 400. That's probably not the right thing to say, but it's 400.

01:02:15.66
youcantcompthis
Now, if you're looking at buying someone on the dip, I don't have a problem with this at all.

01:02:18.50
Adz
Yep.

01:02:20.61
youcantcompthis
You know, we sort of spoke about this with Cam Thomas in the ability for people to sort of, you know, spike up and down. I do like this for lamello.

01:02:29.55
Adz
Yeah.

01:02:29.65
youcantcompthis
The only issue I've got is when you look through the Hornets roster, I don't think realistically they're built to win because they don't have a lot of juice

01:02:38.75
Adz
They're throwing mud at a wall at the moment, let's be fair.

01:02:40.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah, they don't have a lot of juice at you know multiple positions. So you know the next big thing is probably Miles Bridges. And then you can sort of say, well, Brandon Miller's been pretty good for them. But then when you start to look at their other guard spot, what have you got?

01:02:52.72
youcantcompthis
Seth Curry. Then you look at their pivot position. They've got Mark Williams. you know That's really tricky to beat the rest of the teams out in the East, let alone you know when we start comping the West.

01:02:58.98
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:03.33
Adz
Yep.

01:03:04.93
youcantcompthis
So Bridges just really quickly. he is currently trading at.

01:03:11.08
Adz
He's very, he's quite tainted when you think about it, Bridges, but.

01:03:13.51
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he also had his own sort of like legal problems at $30 population on that is 806. Look, you know, I think that's totally fine, but.

01:03:21.73
Adz
I think $30 is good value.

01:03:24.02
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'd sort of.

01:03:25.26
Adz
He could, he could really turn it on for a patch there.

01:03:27.91
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I'd put that in the same sort of categories. Trey Young, though, it's kind of like, and also too, we've spoken at so many cards today, like if you sort of filter them out and rank them, you know, I would sort of put him like, you know, pretty close to the bottom.

01:03:31.50
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:38.10
Adz
So, but if he has a good season, is he a $30 card or ah is he an $80 card?

01:03:40.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:43.53
youcantcompthis
Maybe he's a $50 card, 50 or 60.

01:03:43.80
Adz
Do you not know? um Yeah.

01:03:45.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:46.47
Adz
Okay, okay.

01:03:47.15
youcantcompthis
I do find it pretty hard to believe.

01:03:48.23
Adz
So he's not as good as Derek White.

01:03:50.83
youcantcompthis
No.

01:03:51.48
Adz
Okay, that's fair enough. I like Derek White.

01:03:53.45
youcantcompthis
I mean, white has championship pedigree and a gold medal.

01:03:56.02
Adz
Anna Gold medal.

01:03:57.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Uh, actually the one I'm most interested in is Mark Williams. So he's silver PSA 10 traded for $33, uh, a number to one 25 traded for $60 US.

01:04:02.24
Adz
Mark Williams, interesting. Yeah.

01:04:10.57
youcantcompthis
You know, the issue I have with this guy is not so much that I like him, it's just his position that he plays. You know, I think that's, you know, extremely limiting in this case, but definitely I wanted to talk about him.

01:04:18.03
Adz
yeah Yeah.

01:04:20.27
youcantcompthis
And I think the obvious one that we need to talk about mate is Brandon Miller.

01:04:23.57
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:24.03
youcantcompthis
You know, we're sort of at the end of the cycle in terms of, you know, him coming out of his rookie cycle.

01:04:24.13
Adz
Brandon Miller's, obviously.

01:04:30.58
youcantcompthis
He's obviously not on card ladder. So this is all one 30 point data. I'll just quickly reel these off silver PSA 10, 202.

01:04:34.57
Adz
Yep.

01:04:38.01
Adz
Mmhmm.

01:04:43.32
youcantcompthis
cracked ice for 82, red ice for 62, red sparkle for 435. Now this one here is really interesting. So this is the white prism numbered to 175 that traded for 831 USD.

01:04:59.48
youcantcompthis
So the way I read that is that actually the hobby sentiment around him is quite strong.

01:05:05.99
Adz
Yeah, agreed.

01:05:06.69
youcantcompthis
And so there's a bit of a belief you know in him, you know probably wet,

01:05:11.00
Adz
So you reckon Miller and Balkan rejuvenate the Hornets in a couple of years?

01:05:16.07
youcantcompthis
I think there'll be a really good one-two tandem.

01:05:18.68
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:19.41
youcantcompthis
And I think actually Brandon Miller will be significantly better when ball comes back. Because look I think Brandon Miller has got a good game, but I actually think he's not a number one.

01:05:25.01
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:29.59
youcantcompthis
And so if you, let's just say you paired him with Halliburton, that actually might be a better pairing just because of the way that they can play.

01:05:29.68
Adz
Okay.

01:05:35.75
Adz
Hmm.

01:05:37.74
youcantcompthis
But at the same time, Lamello has got, you know, really good court vision.

01:05:37.79
Adz
Yep. Hmm.

01:05:42.94
youcantcompthis
What I'm worried about with this kid is that once the excitement comes off, what are we going to see with his pricing? it's not And I'm not talking about talent here. I'm not talking about fit. I think the talent is fine and I think the fit is there, but it's the cycle. And so when we move into the next 12 months and I personally think it's going to be a really bad you know draft year, Brandon Miller starts to trend down. Is he someone that you then start to snap up once his prices start to come down?

01:06:08.47
Adz
Playing the game, so to speak, yeah.

01:06:09.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So that's, that's where I'm watching Brandon Miller. That's where I really think, you know, you've got some value to be had.

01:06:15.53
Adz
Yeah, I tend to agree.

01:06:17.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:06:17.58
Adz
I tend to agree.

01:06:19.95
youcantcompthis
All right. Miami Heat. I had four in there, but I think in, in view of time, let's just do Jimmy Butler and Jamie Hackes, because I think Hackes is an interesting one.

01:06:31.43
Adz
Yep, agreed, agreed. We can touch on the other two very quickly, but not, not, yeah.

01:06:33.07
youcantcompthis
Jimmy Butler. Yeah, we can do it real quick. That's fine. Jimmy Butler's worth talking about though, cause his population is just 23. So we're talking about ultra low pop here. Now that's trading for a thousand bucks.

01:06:41.91
Adz
Mmm.

01:06:44.50
youcantcompthis
My concern is, is that he's never going to get to a championship and a thousand dollars is actually future pricing.

01:06:48.45
Adz
Yep.

01:06:50.57
youcantcompthis
I'm stealing your term here.

01:06:52.31
Adz
I I mmm.

01:06:52.32
youcantcompthis
I'm giving you full credit.

01:06:54.25
Adz
So this is his resume complete price is what you're interesting.

01:06:57.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Also too, he's a little bit of a sideshow.

01:07:00.12
Adz
Okay. Well, we are at year 12, right? Like he's not he's not a it's

01:07:04.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Like all that nonsense he did with his like, his hair and his photos and stuff, like, yeah.

01:07:08.50
Adz
he's over he's over the hump he's over the hump career wise he's also not the number one guy so it's a tough one i don't think he can i don't i don't

01:07:13.45
youcantcompthis
He hasn't been great with teammates. i'm I'm sort of a bit like whatever. Anyway, um, really quickly BAM, silver piece, a 10 population, five 46 trading for $57. Again, I put him into that pausing his bucket where the talent is more than the price, but well,

01:07:30.57
youcantcompthis
You know, how long do you wait for this guy to explode? You know, I kind of feel like this is his hobby destiny. Yeah.

01:07:36.53
Adz
He's a number two and that's where he's gonna sit.

01:07:38.31
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:39.40
Adz
Yep.

01:07:39.85
youcantcompthis
Right. Jamie Hakes on the other hand, I'm very intrigued by this $50 silver PSA 10 sold for on the 26th of September. So literally just yesterday.

01:07:49.90
Adz
Mm-hmm.

01:07:51.26
youcantcompthis
You know, when you comp it straight to bam, you actually, that's actually a really sort of sobering thought, isn't it? Would you rather have a hakaes or would you rather have the bam?

01:07:57.02
Adz
Mm.

01:08:00.14
youcantcompthis
You know, actually, I think in terms of talent, I probably like bam better, but but maybe what the narrative here is, is the excitement around hakaes is maybe more so you can sort of, you know.

01:08:04.21
Adz
But.

01:08:10.56
Adz
Hakis has got the opportunity to become the number one, because he's young.

01:08:14.07
youcantcompthis
No, I mean, I think.

01:08:15.18
Adz
But but that's why people prospect, right?

01:08:16.77
youcantcompthis
Oh, yeah, definitely. I think right. Sure. you're You're creating the narrative. That's fine. So you play that for the quick flip. But, you know, realistically in my head, you know, I think actually BAM is probably the better player. So that to me is a little bit of a stay away at that price.

01:08:30.43
youcantcompthis
Now, just really quickly, I want to talk about Tyler Hero. I just want to talk about the population on this. Actually, it's not that bad. 858. But that's trading at $36.

01:08:38.29
Adz
But for a guy that's never going to be the number one, that's tough.

01:08:41.76
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but this dude had a lot of popularity. So at one point he was trading at all time at 1,400, you know, and I think in terms of, you know, we we want to talk about people getting burned through COVID and we highlight, you know, Zion, we highlight, jump around, you know, let's not forget Tyler Herro.

01:08:45.26
Adz
Yeah.

01:08:50.95
Adz
Yeah, true.

01:08:58.56
Adz
Yeah.

01:09:01.62
youcantcompthis
He um definitely broke some hearts, this guy.

01:09:02.98
Adz
Yeah. For sure.

01:09:06.10
youcantcompthis
All right, Orlando Magic, this is probably a personal favorite for me. I love the magic.

01:09:10.45
Adz
was romantic with.

01:09:11.67
youcantcompthis
There's just something about this team, which I'm almost like romantic with at this sort of point. So are they just a good young team, man?

01:09:17.81
Adz
Yeah, I know you ain't.

01:09:20.83
youcantcompthis
And I think they're going to be better this year. I think the KCP acquisition is like a really big deal.

01:09:25.91
Adz
Mmm.

01:09:26.68
youcantcompthis
Like essentially Yeah, could put them forward two steps. You know, just a really quick side note, Markelle Fultz is still unsigned at this point.

01:09:36.72
youcantcompthis
So I really hope he goes to the Spurs or the Warriors or something like that and just signs for a veteran minimum.

01:09:41.95
Adz
Back up guard for the Lakers.

01:09:42.47
youcantcompthis
But I was actually buying him last year in the hope that he was going to spike.

01:09:46.44
Adz
Yep.

01:09:47.79
youcantcompthis
But yeah, honestly, rest in peace to all the Markelle Fultz collectors out there.

01:09:52.78
Adz
Yep.

01:09:53.14
youcantcompthis
um All right, Ben Cherro is interesting. insanely talented. I'm gonna put him as much talent as Jason Tatum. That's how much talent I think this kid has.

01:10:02.58
Adz
Ooh, okay. he's not He's not LeBron though.

01:10:06.16
youcantcompthis
He can get into phases where he is just automatic in terms of his scoring.

01:10:10.16
Adz
Okay.

01:10:11.26
youcantcompthis
I think he's unselfish. I think he plays the right way. He is a big body and he has a multi-faceted skill set.

01:10:16.46
Adz
Mmm.

01:10:19.82
youcantcompthis
I also had the privilege to see him and I had fantastic seats that day.

01:10:19.86
Adz
Mmm.

01:10:22.54
Adz
Life.

01:10:24.41
youcantcompthis
I was up close to him And he just was just unstoppable.

01:10:26.62
Adz
Mmm.

01:10:28.45
youcantcompthis
And I think, yeah, at this point, I'm just like frothing over this guy, but I think he's insanely talented.

01:10:34.95
Adz
Yeah. Agreed.

01:10:36.27
youcantcompthis
You know, my issue here, though, is his population. He's already up to 707, currently trading at 400. I think at that price point, and the population and his current talent, all of that is fine for me.

01:10:48.10
Adz
Yeah.

01:10:48.66
youcantcompthis
The real question is, is is this a buy, a hold or a sell? Look, I probably think of that population, you probably should sell that out and move into something that's numbered even if the PSA number is lower.

01:10:59.69
Adz
Yeah.

01:11:03.62
Adz
Yeah.

01:11:04.26
youcantcompthis
That's just my personal feeling. you know His autographs actually do really well and I think they've held their value you know really well.

01:11:09.35
Adz
Okay.

01:11:10.65
youcantcompthis
So that's the other play you sort of do with him.

01:11:12.26
Adz
Mmm.

01:11:12.41
youcantcompthis
You know you look at his patches, you look at his on-card autos and you sort of you play that market because yeah, I think if you want a high end prospect, I think Banchero is a really, really interesting And, you know, I hope that, yeah, I hope we can come back to this one ad in two years and talk about and kind of say, look, in episode, you know, one 64, we were talking about this kid, you know, yeah.

01:11:26.33
Adz
it It's an interesting look, yeah.

01:11:34.48
Adz
We were talking about this kid.

01:11:35.73
youcantcompthis
And now this where, you know, this is where he's at. Like, that's kind of how I feel about this guy.

01:11:39.00
Adz
I like him.

01:11:40.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:11:40.63
Adz
I think it's it's a good look.

01:11:42.02
youcantcompthis
And then I think if you want to, you know, low end prospect on this team is Anthony Black, you know, I think just like I was saying about with the bucks, someone needs to emerge, you know, the same thing here, like the the magic of invested into young players, they just need people to, you know, step through the cracks.

01:11:52.60
Adz
Mmm.

01:11:56.52
youcantcompthis
Anthony Black has the 3 in D pedigree. A number to 100 fast break sold for $40 USD for a PSA 10, you know, the silver sold for 50.

01:12:04.36
Adz
Yep.

01:12:08.94
youcantcompthis
I think if you're getting a silver for 50 and a number to 100 for 40, I know where I'm putting my money every single time.

01:12:16.76
Adz
Yep.

01:12:18.14
youcantcompthis
That's a little bit of a curious one for me.

01:12:18.20
Adz
Yep.

01:12:19.70
youcantcompthis
So look.

01:12:20.86
Adz
Looked home in a place, really.

01:12:22.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:12:22.57
Adz
We're in the off-season, so maybe it slipped through the cracks. Who knows?

01:12:25.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah, maybe look, I think if I can be honest with you too, actually those prices for me are really high because I think he is not even a home run to make the rotation this year, let alone be in the starting lineup and contribute significantly.

01:12:30.42
Adz
Mmm.

01:12:38.51
Adz
Mmm.

01:12:39.68
youcantcompthis
So I think these prices for me are quite risky, but at the same time, if you want some risk and you want to, you know, dabble in something, you know, yeah, this is it.

01:12:47.67
Adz
Agreed.

01:12:49.26
youcantcompthis
Last teammate, we're gonna do it. The Wizards, let's go out on an absolute banger. Let's start with Jordan Poole.

01:12:55.27
Adz
On an absolute banger.

01:12:58.10
youcantcompthis
Now look, we've called some things right over the years and we've called, well, I'm talking about myself here, we've called things wrong here over the years, but this one, we were so effing right. It's not funny. So when Jordan Poole went to the moon, we were like, sell, sell, sell, sell. The highest price he sold for was nearly $900. He's currently trading at $39. So I think,

01:13:23.01
youcantcompthis
Like that is, and that's post COVID too, man.

01:13:23.34
Adz
Oh, he's...

01:13:25.67
youcantcompthis
So the people that bought into that, honestly, shame on you. um Population, 1,177. Look, even at 30 bucks, I'm not touching this. I think he's basically become like a carnival and sideshow act.

01:13:39.42
Adz
But it's one of those things where you're prepared to spend like 30 bucks to go, this was a thousand dollar card.

01:13:42.99
youcantcompthis
No, I don't want to. Yeah, yeah. and I mean, that's the narrative behind it, isn't it? Yeah. And you do a podcast segment on it and I don't know. Do you write it off as a tax deduction?

01:13:54.19
youcantcompthis
I don't know, man.

01:13:54.79
Adz
Yeah.

01:13:55.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:13:55.60
Adz
Entertainment purposes only.

01:13:56.83
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:13:57.59
Adz
Then you burn one.

01:13:57.75
youcantcompthis
ah So if you look at the Washington Wizards roster, I think the thing that's really come through to me is they're drafting young.

01:13:58.47
Adz
I don't know. Reduce the pop count.

01:14:04.46
youcantcompthis
They are drafting really, really young. They've got, you know, multiple 19 and 20 year old kids on this team. So Kula Bali was 19 this year.

01:14:10.17
Adz
Mmm.

01:14:12.60
youcantcompthis
He'll go into the league 20 this year. I'm putting this as the same as Anthony Black. So actually, he's trading at very comparable prices. Silver PSA 10 is 51.

01:14:21.66
Adz
Yeah.

01:14:23.10
youcantcompthis
interesting about this and I think I wanted to talk to you about this one at gold to 10 traded for 2800 like for me that is like ultra high risk investing and I think particularly with the team's pedigree they've not really demonstrated any ability to put together ah you know a winning or and you know a team of any significance

01:14:35.55
Adz
Yeah.

01:14:46.71
youcantcompthis
I'm actually also really worried about their younger players this year in that they might be somehow trying to push towards the playoffs because if you look at their roster, the way it's constructed, they've got a really clear sort of veteran starting five that they can roll it on the floor.

01:15:01.07
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:01.85
youcantcompthis
And there's almost the argument to be made that cooler ballet is not going to play this year.

01:15:06.06
Adz
Yeah, that's true, that's true.

01:15:06.89
youcantcompthis
Um, Alex Sarr might have trouble getting into the rotation. So might Bub Carrington, whereas he actually should be probably playing these guys 35 minutes a game and just kind of be saying, but then they also give up on prospects.

01:15:19.44
youcantcompthis
Like the Wizards are such like this, like they gave up on Denny, they gave up on Rui.

01:15:19.92
Adz
Yeah.

01:15:23.46
youcantcompthis
Like it's just like absolute, you know, bad shit.

01:15:24.81
Adz
But this is, all right, so so hypothetically speaking, ah is this where the potential, aside from Jordan Paul's side, are the wizards an untapped goldmine?

01:15:32.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:15:36.89
Adz
can you pick up Can you pick up something cheap here that in three or four years is just gonna spike and...

01:15:43.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but okay, so, okay, let me answer that question. I can actually answer that. But it's not cheap, right? Because Kula Ballet is already trading at 51.

01:15:49.88
Adz
Yeah, true, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:50.85
youcantcompthis
Whereas you go to a better organized team, so we spoke about the Raptors today, you can get an Emmanuel quickly for what, $2 for a silver?

01:15:58.56
Adz
Okay, yeah.

01:15:59.94
youcantcompthis
So if you're asking me, ah do I want to prospect on cheap, you know, low end guys, to be honest, I would probably just stay away from the Wizards in entirety, including Alex Tsar, like how much is a PYT going to

01:16:11.60
Adz
I think Saar, I think Saar's definitely not worth touching, but the others midway through the season when they're...

01:16:15.12
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but how much is, um, the wizards going to be in a PYT this year? ah They're going to be like second or third highest.

01:16:19.47
Adz
Yeah, I fair fair. Because I'm looking at, I'm looking at the Wizards pre-season, everyone's like, oh my God, all these, yeah who's gonna get it and overpaying.

01:16:30.48
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:16:31.06
Adz
Then the season starts and everyone realises that the Wizards are a steaming pile of manure. and they start offloading their their cheapies, the the prospects, there might be some bargains there.

01:16:43.37
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:16:45.88
Adz
Because they might get delisted and picked up by someone else. They might get, do you know what I mean? Like they might stop getting played and get moved.

01:16:51.79
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:16:54.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:16:54.52
Adz
At that point, it might be a quick, it's definitely not a quick flip. It's a pick them up while they're down and then wait till they move somewhere successful.

01:17:01.00
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:17:03.26
youcantcompthis
yeah

01:17:03.78
Adz
ruy Rui was a good one. He spiked a little bit when he went to LA.

01:17:05.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

01:17:07.80
Adz
And he bottomed out before then.

01:17:09.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Look. i

01:17:12.20
Adz
You're not making millions. You're definitely not gonna end up as Ken Golden.

01:17:13.56
youcantcompthis
I think my answer to this is that even alone in the Eastern Conference, I probably think you can find more reliable prospects.

01:17:19.54
Adz
Yep.

01:17:21.65
youcantcompthis
And I think also too, part of this is I do think that team success has something to do with player value. And I do not trust the Washington Wizards to make a cup of tea, let alone win a playoff game.

01:17:29.41
Adz
Oh.

01:17:34.21
youcantcompthis
And so all of these guys.

01:17:35.60
Adz
Look, you gotta give them credit for keeping Jordan Paul's price above $20. That's pretty impressive.

01:17:42.15
youcantcompthis
But maybe, but mate do you know actually what, maybe the Jordan Pool graph is the perfect analogy for the Washington Wizards card value.

01:17:42.42
Adz
um

01:17:51.69
Adz
I hate to do this. Yeah, maybe it is. maybe Maybe you are, right? Yeah, maybe you've got a point there. Does Kuzma have a similar graph? They're as bad as each other, aren't they?

01:18:04.01
youcantcompthis
They're in the same sentence.

01:18:05.84
Adz
yeah

01:18:06.35
youcantcompthis
Big man Jonas Valetunis is going to be there. They've also got Malcolm Brogdon at the moment.

01:18:12.83
Adz
Yeah.

01:18:13.04
youcantcompthis
You know, I actually see the scenario where they start them. They start Sadiq Bay later in the season and they're going to squeeze all these young kids out. You know, it's going to be nightmare material.

01:18:25.52
Adz
I find it, oh my God, why did I even look at card letter for Kyle Kuzma?

01:18:32.67
youcantcompthis
Alright, let's finish on a positive note, because that was such a downer. Why did I put the wizards at the end? I think it was because it was in alphabetical order, but anyway.

01:18:38.98
Adz
And probably, can I just say on the Kyle Kuzma thing, if you're looking for a cheap kaboom,

01:18:40.63
youcantcompthis
Alright. Yeah, hit me.

01:18:46.00
youcantcompthis
How much is a kaboom trading for?

01:18:48.51
Adz
Kyle Kuzma 2018 kaboom, raw 250 US, ten ah PSA 10 330.

01:18:51.52
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:18:57.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:19:01.44
youcantcompthis
Yep. Yeah. Goodbye. Purely for the kaboom. Nothing to do with Kuzma.

01:19:06.49
Adz
Yeah, but that's like PMG's that, you know what I mean?

01:19:07.15
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah, ah definitely. Yep. That is, that's the right call, man. Yep.

01:19:12.75
Adz
there's yeah There's your value if you're a wizard's collector.

01:19:14.19
youcantcompthis
There's your Washington Widget's purchase. Yeah.

01:19:16.36
Adz
Yep.

01:19:16.66
youcantcompthis
Stay away from.

01:19:18.66
Adz
Carl Cruzma Kabooms.

01:19:18.84
youcantcompthis
well

01:19:20.46
Adz
That could be the cover for this week's episode.

01:19:23.66
youcantcompthis
Final thought ad, I'll let you finish the show off.

01:19:26.60
Adz
um Final thought, there's a lot of value. It's it's really up to the collector. and my my my real My thought is, it's up to you guys what you want. But then I think we've demonstrated there's stacks out there.

01:19:39.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:19:40.26
Adz
And however you want to collect it is...

01:19:41.89
youcantcompthis
Yeah. We've illustrated price points today.

01:19:44.70
Adz
Kaboom.

01:19:45.07
youcantcompthis
We've illustrated a whole bunch of different teams. It's, yeah, it's cool. Yeah. Alrighty guys. Thank you so much for listening. Adam, thank you for a very enjoyable morning. I've had a fantastic time.

01:19:55.91
youcantcompthis
It's now afternoon, but let's not let the facts get in the way of the truth.

01:19:59.74
Adz
but not Let's not dwell on that.

01:20:01.43
youcantcompthis
No.

01:20:01.47
Adz
ah Yeah, let's, um everybody enjoy the, if you're in Melbourne, enjoy the long weekend. If you if you're not in Melbourne, just enjoy your weekend. um

01:20:10.79
youcantcompthis
Actually, one last thing. Did we mention this last show? We got to a thousand followers on Instagram. Thank you everyone for your Instagram love.

01:20:16.26
Adz
Thanks to everybody on Instagram, yeah.

01:20:17.99
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:20:18.40
Adz
And those that are watching us, there's a lot more comments coming through on YouTube and stuff like that.

01:20:21.21
youcantcompthis
Yep. Definitely.

01:20:23.66
Adz
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01:20:34.42
Adz
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01:20:37.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Thanks, Ad. Thanks, everyone. Have a great day.

01:20:42.00
Adz
See you guys.