Episode 168: Oz National, Overreactions, Menedez Bros and MORE!!!

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Adam and Russell are back from a busy weekend at the first ever Oz National, they talk about some pre-season overreactions, the rise in popularity of a 1990 Mark Jackson card plus much more!!

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00:00:11.00
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 168 of the You Can't Cop This and NBA Trading Card Podcast. We are your hosts Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:23.11
Adz
Russell, we're we're back from the national.

00:00:25.95
youcantcompthis
Yeah, man.

00:00:26.06
Adz
I'm just gonna get this show started off with a bang. We we went to the national last weekend, past weekend. Yeah.

00:00:35.72
youcantcompthis
It's been a high concentration of UConn companies. So Friday, no, Saturday morning we recorded with Robert Steinfeld.

00:00:44.36
Adz
Yep.

00:00:45.60
youcantcompthis
Sunday was the national and then today we're recording very early.

00:00:47.28
Adz
We went to the national, yep.

00:00:50.43
youcantcompthis
So thank you for accommodating me.

00:00:52.69
Adz
Nah, that's all right. You're you're you're taking some some some time off.

00:00:53.98
youcantcompthis
I'm heading off on a little vacay. So yeah, it feels like we've done a lot for the podcast these last couple of days. And we have like, to be fair, so but listeners will hear this episode in a few more days.

00:01:02.87
Adz
Yeah.

00:01:05.41
youcantcompthis
But anyway, it's um, yeah,

00:01:06.67
Adz
It'll be closer to the 20th of October when when people hear this. yeah

00:01:12.44
youcantcompthis
unless they hear it early on YouTube podcast,

00:01:15.95
Adz
That's it. They can get a sneak they can get a sneak peek. um And yeah, it's a really good opportunity to to remind people, yes, we are now live on YouTube ah when we when we stream the episodes, but you can also get the the back catalogue of of episodes if you do miss a podcast on YouTube podcasts.

00:01:25.00
youcantcompthis
Mm hmm. Yeah.

00:01:34.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:01:35.57
Adz
So yeah, what do they what do they say? ah Like, subscribe and tick that bell for notifications when a new podcast drops. I know it works because I've ticked the bell and occasionally I get notified when a new podcast comes up and I kind of look at it and go, maybe I shouldn't tick the bell because I know all when we when we go live. Anyway.

00:01:59.09
Adz
ah

00:02:00.23
youcantcompthis
that's kind of getting awkward to explain isn't it yeah why do you yeah anyway look there's actually a lot to talk about because the last couple of weeks we did obviously we did rob it and then the two weeks before that we did the entire league

00:02:02.24
Adz
Yeah, yeah, it's sort of like my internal monologue just sort of, yeah, like getting out of my head anyway. um Yeah.

00:02:19.12
youcantcompthis
preview so there's sort of all these been bits and pieces that have been bubbling along in the background so we're sort of going to cover off a few things that we haven't covered the last you know a couple of weeks I'm sure there's going to be stuff that we've missed but at the same time let's just get into it Adam so I think the best place to start is just yesterday just reflections on the Nationals because I had a fantastic day I'm pretty sure that you had a good day too so I thought

00:02:29.39
Adz
Few cliff notes, yeah.

00:02:43.91
Adz
i had a yeah I had a great time. It was it was fantastic.

00:02:46.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:02:46.99
Adz
yeah

00:02:47.75
youcantcompthis
So why don't we just share some of our reflections or, you know, things we thought, you know, went well or things that we thought maybe could have gone better at the national. So.

00:02:55.24
Adz
I want to start out by saying I thought the venue was was amazing. It was great of the city of Melbourne to put on the best weather possible for ah for ah for a card show.

00:03:04.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:03:07.44
youcantcompthis
It was spectacular weather yesterday.

00:03:07.71
Adz
it it yeah and i mean from i I live in Docklands, so the fact that it was in Docklands was ah quite convenient. It was all of a five-minute walk for me.

00:03:18.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I mean, as you get into middle age, the transit to an event is very important. So I think for you, that's an absolute A plus plus plus, isn't it?

00:03:27.52
Adz
No parking issues for me, no.

00:03:28.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right.

00:03:30.20
Adz
No public transport, we were just, yeah. Casual stroll in the sun.

00:03:33.84
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:03:35.61
Adz
um

00:03:36.50
youcantcompthis
Anytime you don't have to drive and park your car, it's like A plus, isn't it?

00:03:40.06
Adz
well Well, on that though, Markle, mm, Markle, Marvel has really good weekend parking rates for those that did wanna travel.

00:03:40.13
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:03:47.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

00:03:48.02
Adz
um It's right near Spencer Street Station or so Southern Cross Station, geez, I'm showing my edge.

00:03:52.50
youcantcompthis
That's again showing in our age. Yeah, I think the youngins might not realize what it used to be called.

00:03:54.43
Adz
That's, yep. The train station on Spencer Street is Southern Cross Station.

00:03:56.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:04:00.78
Adz
It's not Spencer. Anywho, the locate, and it was at a sports ground. And I think that was the best aesthetic for me, aside from looking out the window to the water, it was great.

00:04:11.05
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:04:11.61
Adz
But you'd look through the other window and it's a sports stadium. Like it just had that sports stadium vibe to it. there were There was plenty of places to trade, like for people to to trade cards, um lots of space for the vendors, plenty of space.

00:04:19.56
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:04:27.01
Adz
I wasn't bumping into people. It was, I mean, we bumped into quite a few people, but but it wasn't chock-a-block, I just, it felt really nice.

00:04:31.81
youcantcompthis
Yeah, there was, yeah, I know what you're saying. There was just, yeah.

00:04:41.37
Adz
Wanna meet yourself.

00:04:41.81
youcantcompthis
Any, yeah, so I think, so taking aside the the venue itself, the thing that really caught my eye was whatnot.

00:04:47.81
Adz
Hmm. Yep.

00:04:51.50
youcantcompthis
And this is maybe something that I've not been following closely enough, but clearly whatnot want to come into the Australian space and break into that.

00:05:00.31
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:00.51
youcantcompthis
And I think, look, a lot's been said about whatnot about the problems about it, but if you also sort of stand back and think about what whatnot brings is, it's literally a breaking platform for people to access. And so it does make sense that you know we would be there in some capacity when I say we I mean the Australians but just due to the logistics of it Australian breakers haven't been able to list on it they it's been difficult for Aussies to actually you know go on their own by spots unless you've got you know some logistics in America so there's a few things around that that I think is just going to be amazing for Australian collectors and so

00:05:24.55
Adz
Hmm. Yep.

00:05:39.76
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:41.69
youcantcompthis
whatever your opinion is about whatnot and I have to admit there's a lot of stuff that I see on there that I don't like like so for example breakers cancelling people's spots when they you know hit big and stuff like that so I also hope that as they grow their platform they sort of start to really sharpen things up and you know refine things down and you know whatever the process is for you know removing bad breakers or whatever the process is for making sure people pay what they get what they pay for you know all that type of stuff

00:05:44.13
Adz
Hmm.

00:05:59.65
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:04.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:10.19
Adz
yeah

00:06:11.12
youcantcompthis
But taking all of that aside, and I'm going to lead this into my second point too about how that the hobby is dead in Australia. Well, clearly it's not because you've got this enormous platform, you know, wanting clearly

00:06:21.60
Adz
ah

00:06:25.33
Adz
I thought you were going to wear a Halloween costume yesterday and me walk around like a zombie going, yeah, the the hobby is dead. like There were so many people there.

00:06:33.08
youcantcompthis
Like I think Whatnot would have spent a lot of money flying all their people out and they clearly sponsored the shows. I think, you know, they're putting money into the hobby.

00:06:40.11
Adz
Well, then there was a launch party afterwards. There was there was so much going on.

00:06:43.56
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And then sort of my second point about, you know, the hobby being dead, like there was, who knows exactly the number of people there, but I would guess a thousand plus.

00:06:53.69
Adz
There are a couple thousand people there, from what I heard.

00:06:55.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:06:57.60
Adz
Yep.

00:06:57.81
youcantcompthis
And that was the other thing that I found like, you know, really quite interesting. There was just a lot of people that sort of engaged in the hobby. And I think that for me is, that was probably my two big takeaways, just how healthy the hobby looked at the moment.

00:07:03.84
Adz
Mmm.

00:07:10.26
Adz
Yep.

00:07:10.88
youcantcompthis
Talking to a couple of vendors, you know, obviously this is very superficial sort of layered commentary, but at the same time, I think it's interesting. People weren't spending a heap of money.

00:07:21.50
youcantcompthis
but there was a lot of like people negotiating and trading cards and doing cash plus cards and all that type of stuff and you know I think that's awesome like and if that's you know where the hobby is at at the moment well then vendors have to adapt to that to you know get deals done you know and keep rolling around like because if people aren't spending you know wads of cash okay well you know what are you prepared to do so

00:07:25.91
Adz
Yeah.

00:07:35.17
Adz
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yep.

00:07:43.75
youcantcompthis
And there was sort of a varying amount that, you know, vendors were paying, some were paying 80% comp, some were 70. I heard some 60% comp sort of, you know, flying around, which I think is a little bit brutal.

00:07:54.32
youcantcompthis
But if, you know, if they're transparent about it and, and that's what they're paying, like, I don't particularly have a problem with that because they can offer it to you and you just, you know, decline. So, you know, there's no like, yeah.

00:08:04.51
Adz
I was gonna say it's quite ah it's quite easy to decline if you don't like the price, right?

00:08:08.75
youcantcompthis
That's it. Yeah.

00:08:10.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:10.25
youcantcompthis
So look, I thought the environment there was really good. I thought that the vibe was really good. And, you know, I, I did trades.

00:08:15.84
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:18.06
youcantcompthis
That was mostly what I did. I did purchase one card, but the part that I'm walking away feeling the best about was the trades. Like I actually just had a really good time doing that.

00:08:25.69
Adz
Mmm.

00:08:27.63
youcantcompthis
And and maybe you know we talk about the hobby maturing and maybe that's also the next part of like the hobby maturing you know people are getting better at making fair comps making fair trades where both you know parties feel like you know they're doing like pretty good out of it and you know vendors are sort of doing that in a bit better of a space so that was

00:08:44.89
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:49.06
Adz
I think that's really good. Yeah.

00:08:50.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that was probably my observation.

00:08:51.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:52.01
youcantcompthis
So I think I've got a couple of shout outs here. I'm going to shout out to Jake Byrne, because that was the gentleman that I did a trade with.

00:08:56.03
Adz
Yep.

00:08:59.15
Adz
yeah

00:08:59.61
youcantcompthis
And actually, I've reached out to him to come on to the show. So I think he might be interesting for, you know, five or 10 minutes to sort of give us a bit of a hot take.

00:09:03.33
Adz
Oh, nice. Nice.

00:09:08.38
youcantcompthis
And then this gentleman here, nice looking cardboard, which is Matt again, same thing, you know, I was really happy with the deal that I got done with him.

00:09:14.73
Adz
Yeah. You got the Stockton, didn't you?

00:09:16.76
youcantcompthis
And Yeah, I got a stopped in patch autograph from noir, which is a kind of a bit of a weird one.

00:09:18.28
Adz
Is that? Yeah.

00:09:23.00
youcantcompthis
Cause it looked like a Lakers uniform on it, but still like I'm super happy with that.

00:09:27.74
Adz
That definitely wasn't like as purple. It was a, it was a Utah purple for sure.

00:09:32.13
youcantcompthis
Look, I'm not gonna argue with you on that, okay? I'll i'll let you win that that Lakers debate. So he he had to me sort of very like Ryan from Gem Rate vibes this guy.

00:09:42.98
youcantcompthis
I feel like, you know, he had that.

00:09:43.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:44.90
youcantcompthis
And also too, and maybe this is the third comment to add to this. I feel like there was a lot more sort of small vendors there where it was just like, hey, these are my cards that is from my personal collection that I'm happy to sell and and move on.

00:09:57.46
youcantcompthis
and And that was kind of cool too.

00:09:57.96
Adz
Yep.

00:09:59.75
youcantcompthis
Like, and maybe that's, I'm not too sure why that is between, you know, the differences between the two, but it felt like there was a little bit more sort of organic um table space there as opposed to just like all the big, you know, the big boys.

00:10:06.37
Adz
and

00:10:15.20
youcantcompthis
So yeah.

00:10:15.38
Adz
it was spreadtz It was very well spread out, you're right. and it was I mean, it was ah there were a lot of familiar faces.

00:10:23.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:10:24.12
Adz
but there were some new faces. And I think that was that was the refreshing part about it. Like there was a familiarity about the whole event.

00:10:28.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:10:31.38
Adz
And then there was also something new and fresh about it.

00:10:35.25
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

00:10:35.86
Adz
And and it's not just because what nots here. Like it was it was something new because of the the new vendors and and and people showing their wares.

00:10:44.10
youcantcompthis
I don't think the whatnot thing was forced down our throat so bad. Like I, I, I definitely knew they were there, but I didn't feel.

00:10:47.09
Adz
That was the beautiful part of it. Oh look, we were all given we were all given a a whatnot tote bag at the beginning of the of the day, so.

00:10:53.04
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but I didn't feel overwhelmed by that either.

00:10:56.24
Adz
And I got a stubby holder, but anyway.

00:10:56.50
youcantcompthis
Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, only cause you asked for it. Like that, you know, you yeah.

00:11:00.66
Adz
It's true, I asked, I'm like, what do I have to do to get a stubby holder? It's like, that's exactly what you do. And I was like, thank you.

00:11:04.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:11:06.11
Adz
Now I have a pair of stubby holders. um

00:11:09.08
youcantcompthis
So yeah, that was cool.

00:11:10.54
Adz
like i think I think the whatnot thing is is interesting and and you're right, we don't wanna stray too far positive, too far negative, but it's a really good observation that when you're pioneering something, you're going to run into pros and cons.

00:11:10.60
youcantcompthis
ah

00:11:27.15
Adz
You're gonna hit some wins and you're gonna annoy people and bad things are gonna happen, but I think you need to applaud and I use the word pioneer because it's it is it's bringing new things to to the hobby.

00:11:40.44
Adz
Whatnot have started something to try and create or like fill a need or take a need to another level and i yeah props to them.

00:11:42.41
youcantcompthis
Mhm.

00:11:53.29
Adz
I thought they they definitely helped put on a ah great show and it's nice that

00:11:57.88
youcantcompthis
Mhm. Mhm.

00:12:00.62
Adz
It's gone from, because we've we've previously done it where we we're like, ah, we can't really comment on it because we don't get it here in Australia. And now at least we'll we'll get that opportunity. So, but yeah, ah the of it yeah it was a good it was a good day.

00:12:11.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah, watch this space, right?

00:12:13.88
Adz
yeah As you said, we we we met a lot of, a few new people, um saw some old friends, obviously.

00:12:14.08
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:12:16.63
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:12:19.49
Adz
Story time with Mr. Rimpus, who who can, I can now say, I have a fellow, Luca Sinek, It was lovely, lovely to hear.

00:12:32.00
Adz
um And then, and eventually on our way out, it might've been the positioning and the way we went around the room. It was our ah lovely sponsor, ah Fast Break Collectibles.

00:12:41.77
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:12:42.55
Adz
That was i was good to see the boys. You didn't have any trouble with the geography getting to their stand at least.

00:12:46.53
youcantcompthis
yep yep ah till the day i die i mean jeez yeah i mean i can take that though to be honest if that's like the worst thing you boys can drum up about me like yeah

00:12:48.31
Adz
I think we're gonna, that's gonna be a joke till the end, but that's pretty much it. That's it, that's it.

00:12:58.19
Adz
That's all we've got. Yeah. Yep. That's true. That's true. But good day. Good day overall.

00:13:04.88
youcantcompthis
All right, early season overreactions. So I think for me, James Wiseman got the start early in the preseason. I'm just looking at the box score from the game that was on the 13th of October.

00:13:18.93
Adz
Yep.

00:13:19.34
youcantcompthis
Was it the 13th? From the 10th of October. He did not get the start. Miles Turner was back in the styling lineup. So he got 10 minutes, 4 from 6 from the field, 10 rebounds though.

00:13:37.37
youcantcompthis
And so one fail, eight points four plus four in the plus minus. Again, look, if he's not starting, I don't think there's any real thing to prospect on here.

00:13:50.17
youcantcompthis
I think to be honest, it's probably a stay away. And if Miles Turner is still on the team, it makes sense that he's not going to get a heap of burn.

00:13:53.97
Adz
Hmm.

00:13:57.99
Adz
Yep.

00:13:58.01
youcantcompthis
But I think the whole optics or the narrative around Halliburton setting him up and letting him make simple plays, you know, just be a big body.

00:14:04.99
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:08.31
Adz
Yep.

00:14:08.72
youcantcompthis
And that was the thing that I noticed when he started. Cause I watched most of that game, he was just a big body getting in people's way. He was just standing underneath the basket, getting rebounds and dunking the ball. It's like, he doesn't need to be playing an emotion system with Steph Curry.

00:14:21.53
youcantcompthis
He just needs to be like dunking a basketball. You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, like.

00:14:24.47
Adz
Get the round thing, put it up there, yeah. Grab it, go up, grab it and then put it in the ring.

00:14:29.02
youcantcompthis
Good pick up for them, but yeah, so I think probably side note on this, Drace Walker in the most recent game, 18 minutes, three or three from the field, two or two from three, four or four from the free throw line, four rebounds, one assist, 12 points, 18 plus in the plus minus, so.

00:14:47.02
youcantcompthis
I've been sort of crapping on about Grace Walker a little bit. So it's actually good to see him, you know, come through a bit. And that makes sense too. um Like, that's my sort of theory with him is that Rick Carlisle doesn't really play rookies, he plays second year players.

00:14:59.12
youcantcompthis
So that's my sort of theory around him, like why you'll start to see a bit of a bump on him. So I don't think I even need to check card letter prices on James Wiseman. I can't imagine they're more than a dollar.

00:15:10.61
youcantcompthis
So I feel like that's a bit of a, that's a bit of a boring thing to

00:15:12.81
Adz
Mmm It'd be more of a surprise if anyone's held on to to Wiseman cards more than anything Yeah, let's do that let's do that

00:15:16.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:15:19.24
youcantcompthis
ah Do we do Dyson Daniels quickly mate? And then we go for a break. What do you reckon? Yeah. All right. So Dyson Daniels, my take on this early season over early pre-season overreaction is that he's actually a really good fit next to Trey Young.

00:15:35.06
Adz
Mm hmm.

00:15:35.14
youcantcompthis
And I think his size makes a whole heap of sense. And the analogy I'm going to use here is the Clay Thompson Steph Curry pairing it that Clay Thompson always did like sort of the heavy lifting in the dirty work, defended the best guy out of the back court.

00:15:48.12
Adz
Yep.

00:15:49.49
youcantcompthis
I think that's what they're going to do to Dyson Daniels this year. And I think the funny thing for me about Dyson Daniels is that actually he's got a fair bit of talent.

00:15:52.98
Adz
That's a fair point.

00:15:57.88
youcantcompthis
And I think you if he's getting more consistent court time, you're going to see that sort of the glimpses and the brightness sort of coming through from this guy in addition to all the talent that Trey Young has.

00:16:06.12
Adz
Yeah Yeah

00:16:08.40
youcantcompthis
So I really like this. I think um in terms of picking up somebody, I sort of love the analytics part on this is that it's a bit like Moneyball where the the GM from the Hawks was sitting there saying, what do we need to put aside Trey Young for a cheaper price?

00:16:24.00
youcantcompthis
Who is it that we can get? So they literally trade away a more expensive contract, get a better fit and get some draft assets to come back with it. Like, so I think if you're a Hawks fan, like that's just, yeah.

00:16:35.59
Adz
You got some...

00:16:36.75
youcantcompthis
And they've had some good luck in the draft. Like they went, you know, right up the draft, obviously to the top this year. Oh, actually, do we want to talk about that? So have you seen any footage of the, the number one pick?

00:16:48.00
Adz
Who's this? Is this Koopa Flag?

00:16:50.04
youcantcompthis
No, for the Hawks this year.

00:16:50.67
Adz
Oh, the projected number one pick. I thought they were gonna go for it again.

00:16:53.08
youcantcompthis
No, no, like, so the number one pick that, yeah, yeah.

00:16:54.27
Adz
Oh, the new guy, the the guy that they ran. No, i actually, I made a vow that I'm gonna steer clear of the Hawks this year.

00:16:56.49
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:17:01.41
youcantcompthis
So. Obviously, again, this is very small sample size theater at this point.

00:17:07.47
Adz
I played two or three games.

00:17:09.21
youcantcompthis
And me pronouncing his name, I'm gonna butcher this. It's Risa Share. So 22 minutes, seven of nine from the floor, three of four from three, one of two from the free throw line, three rebounds, two assists.

00:17:19.26
Adz
Okay.

00:17:21.52
youcantcompthis
And it's really funny because like those shooting numbers is actually quite remarkable in a very small sample size. But the thing that actually took me by surprise was his handle.

00:17:30.89
Adz
Okay.

00:17:32.02
youcantcompthis
and he's passing. Like I actually thought I'm really surprised he doesn't have more assists in that stat line. And maybe he's kind of like the, um like the hockey assist guy, you know, like the Tim Duncan type thing where he's making the play, but someone else is getting the assist numbers.

00:17:45.16
Adz
Okay.

00:17:45.29
youcantcompthis
But look, I liked him, you know, from a very early sort of impression, you know, yeah.

00:17:51.03
Adz
Yeah, I mean, this is the thing, you get to see rooks sort of do their thing, right? Which is, which is a good time.

00:17:56.83
youcantcompthis
And so I,

00:17:58.43
Adz
I would pronounce that Rissachure.

00:18:00.84
youcantcompthis
Had, what did I say? Ricochet.

00:18:03.27
Adz
Rissachure, share.

00:18:04.22
youcantcompthis
Oh, geez.

00:18:04.81
Adz
Rissachure.

00:18:04.91
youcantcompthis
Anyway, look, I'm sure, I'm sure he's going to give us a call and correct us in the next couple of weeks.

00:18:05.64
Adz
No, it's probably, we've probably but got it wrong.

00:18:11.31
Adz
Yeah, just like Paolo did.

00:18:12.70
youcantcompthis
And Yannis, yeah.

00:18:13.53
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:15.39
youcantcompthis
So I think in terms of lineups for the Hawks, so DeAndre Hunter for me is very expendable. And if Ricochet isn't in the starting lineup, imminently, I'm going to be absolutely shocked by that.

00:18:27.03
Adz
Hmm You reckon he'll be I reckon he'll be in and out You reckon once he's in he's in and okay Yeah,

00:18:27.61
youcantcompthis
And if that is the,

00:18:30.38
youcantcompthis
I reckon, nah, he's playmaking. Yeah, I think he's playmaking. ah I find De'Andre Hunter very much like a plain chip.

00:18:41.75
Adz
yeah, I don't know

00:18:41.77
youcantcompthis
Do you know what I mean? Like, like he's a fine NBA player. Like, don't get me wrong, but at the same time, man, he's boring and he's not... Sometimes, is he even on the court, you know?

00:18:50.40
Adz
Kawhi Leonard's boring, but he goes all right.

00:18:52.56
youcantcompthis
No, no, no, no, but you know, choir Leonard's on the court, like choir Leonard does things, you know, he gets things done.

00:18:53.39
Adz
Yeah, fair.

00:18:58.82
youcantcompthis
And that's actually kind of a fun lineup. So then you've got Trey Young, Dyson Daniels, you've got Richard Shaw, you've got Jalen Johnson, which I love. And then Capella, like, you know, I'm whatever on but I mean, he's he's not getting 50 million a year Capella either.

00:19:07.80
Adz
Mmm.

00:19:13.25
youcantcompthis
So I don't mind that.

00:19:14.67
Adz
Yeah.

00:19:15.39
youcantcompthis
Maybe the Hawks are going to be sneaky fun this year.

00:19:15.72
Adz
Yeah.

00:19:19.92
Adz
See, that's an overreaction.

00:19:20.11
youcantcompthis
I think

00:19:21.50
Adz
See?

00:19:22.88
youcantcompthis
um If this is the worst overreaction I have that the Hawks are going to be fun this year, I'm totally down with this.

00:19:23.50
Adz
ah

00:19:30.04
Adz
Look, yeah, I'm i'm still, um I'm not sold on the Hawks.

00:19:34.08
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:19:34.73
Adz
I'm not going to let a couple of preseason games sway my opinion, but I'm i'm happy to be proven wrong.

00:19:38.70
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's fun.

00:19:41.10
Adz
And I think it's healthy.

00:19:41.20
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yeah.

00:19:42.24
Adz
I think it's healthy. We disagree.

00:19:44.01
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:19:45.01
Adz
um Yeah.

00:19:45.90
youcantcompthis
It's good.

00:19:48.48
Adz
Should we take a break?

00:19:49.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, let's take a break. Let's go to our first commercial break. Let's go straight to the Hobby Hangout. I feel like this is topical at the moment, considering we just did a breakdown of the, of the nationals, right?

00:19:56.07
Adz
Mmm, it's coming up.

00:19:59.61
youcantcompthis
So Hobby Hangout, they are our sponsors.

00:19:59.91
Adz
Yep.

00:20:02.32
youcantcompthis
Thank you so much. And we bumped into Matthew too, didn't we?

00:20:05.28
Adz
We did, we saw, yeah, it was it was great to see Matthew there.

00:20:05.32
youcantcompthis
So that was great to see Matthew. Um, Hobby Hangout will be coming to Melbourne the 17th of November. So guys, if you've got your traders box,

00:20:13.79
Adz
It's a month away.

00:20:16.28
youcantcompthis
still packed up from the Nationals. Don't unpack it. In fact, add more stuff to it. Make sure it's already there because it's a huge part of the hobby hangar is to take your traders there and do trades with people.

00:20:27.63
youcantcompthis
It's going to be at the Melbourne Pavilion. Heaps of stuff going on there. So we've got live breaks. We've got panels. We've got live podcasts. Adam, you and I will be there live podcasting.

00:20:36.40
Adz
We will.

00:20:37.94
youcantcompthis
Now, just as smattering a random announcement of stalls there, we've got McLaren cards, Shieldstamps, Stanbrook cards, Edge Collectibles, Stasis Collectibles. This one's a tricky one. PGCG, The Social Club Collectors, Unboxed Collectibles, Cherry's gonna be there. We'll have to beep that word out. JT Collectibles, Big Three Cards and Supplies, Peter's Goat Cards. Shout out to our sponsors Fastbreak, they're gonna be there too. so um Get on that.

00:21:06.24
Adz
Should be a fun day, yeah.

00:21:06.76
youcantcompthis
I believe that the the pre-sale tickets have sold out where you could win the $500 so that that offer is now gone um And then we've got Sydney coming up so Sydney hobby hangout.

00:21:19.65
youcantcompthis
Don't forget about Sydney, of course Sunday the 1st of December at the Sydney Roundhouse Trading Zone, Poker Zone, Workshop, Live Breaks and Panelling, Matthew Payne of course is going to be there and again that same sort of like huge list of vendors that's actually it's just loaded that show so Get on down to either show guys, you just won't regret it. Same thing that we're talking about with the Nationals. If you don't have cash, it doesn't matter. Take your traders down there, wheel and deal with vendors. Give them a hard time until you get the deal that makes you happy. ah Tell them that Russell from You Can't Comp this told you to give a hard time. So, yeah. Alrighty, Adam, how you feeling, mate? Are you feeling refreshed?

00:22:03.68
Adz
I am refreshed. um I'm very, very, very keen to continue talking about all of our overreactions in the off season. I've got a surprise one to throw at you.

00:22:12.88
youcantcompthis
All right, you go, mate, because I've been doing too much talking already today.

00:22:13.05
Adz
ah my

00:22:16.28
Adz
I've got my overreaction and and and it's not that i'm it's making it's not that it makes me, so well, it makes me a little bit sad, but from what I've seen in the limited pre-season, Boston are going to be scary this year.

00:22:18.45
youcantcompthis
Give me your overreaction. I want to hear this.

00:22:30.27
youcantcompthis
Yeah, Boston are going to be stupid good, mate. Yeah.

00:22:33.29
Adz
um So SOS, someone from the Western Conference, can you please step up and get good so that the Boston don't go back to back? We can't have it.

00:22:43.33
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So, okay. So let's, let me agree with your point and I'll push this back onto you. Who do you think is the second or the third best team in the league at the moment, realistically to challenge?

00:22:54.20
Adz
All right, well I, um

00:22:55.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Cause I think that's the interesting like part of the conversation for me.

00:23:03.82
Adz
If I was to put my, and I and um'm um i feel like I'm going back on on some thoughts. I did ah did a a season preview with some friends a couple of weeks back and I said Denver ah denver and Milwaukee are on revenge tours.

00:23:18.44
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure.

00:23:19.06
Adz
I'm already back pedaling.

00:23:19.19
youcantcompthis
I'm done with that. Okay.

00:23:22.75
Adz
But i do think I do think Oklahoma City are poised to to be at the top of the West.

00:23:25.77
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:23:28.61
Adz
I think Minnesota are looking very good in the West.

00:23:32.35
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:23:32.84
Adz
In the East, I'm really concerned. um Joel Embiid won't take part in the pre-season. i just I don't know.

00:23:43.50
Adz
I feel like the first...

00:23:43.72
youcantcompthis
So the narrative around Embiid this year is he's basically not gonna play like 60 games. They're literally gonna be resting him for the playoffs.

00:23:49.95
Adz
They're gonna try and get into the playoffs, right?

00:23:51.68
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So for me, that's like, Maxie's gonna have a massive year, Embiid's gonna be wrapped up in cotton wool.

00:23:52.75
Adz
um

00:23:57.50
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:23:58.64
Adz
I think there could be early red flags on Philadelphia and they've gone all in. So I don't know. I have concerns with with what Philly was sort of um telling, but that that that opens opportunities at the top of the East.

00:24:09.06
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so my thing with that though, out And so the red flags is going to be from the talking heads at ESPN. But I think if you go behind the scenes in the Philadelphia war room, right?

00:24:19.94
youcantcompthis
Like that's their plan.

00:24:21.50
Adz
That is their plan, but is that gonna, is that gonna fix Joel and beat as soon as he has to play lots of games?

00:24:21.55
youcantcompthis
Like, yeah.

00:24:27.34
youcantcompthis
So I think the yeah, so I think the thing with that is they're like, we don't need him healthy for the season.

00:24:28.01
Adz
That's the problem in the playoffs.

00:24:33.52
youcantcompthis
We need him healthy for the postseason. like I kind of get their, their theory on that actually.

00:24:37.23
Adz
The rationale, yeah, I don't know.

00:24:38.25
youcantcompthis
Yeah, definitely.

00:24:39.52
Adz
I don't know.

00:24:39.83
youcantcompthis
All right.

00:24:39.96
Adz
If they end up as a playing team, they're, they're, they've done their job, I reckon.

00:24:40.43
youcantcompthis
have

00:24:44.01
youcantcompthis
How about I just like yell at you team names and you just say yes or no, whether they can contend for the championship.

00:24:50.06
Adz
Okay.

00:24:50.96
youcantcompthis
Hawks.

00:24:51.88
Adz
No.

00:24:52.63
youcantcompthis
Hornets.

00:24:53.47
Adz
No.

00:24:53.89
youcantcompthis
Heat.

00:24:55.19
Adz
No.

00:24:55.78
youcantcompthis
Magic.

00:24:56.91
Adz
Yes.

00:24:58.01
youcantcompthis
Okay. Wizards.

00:24:59.59
Adz
not No.

00:25:00.43
youcantcompthis
Bulls, Cavs, Pistons.

00:25:04.18
Adz
No. No, no.

00:25:05.65
youcantcompthis
Paces. Bucks, Nets.

00:25:11.97
Adz
So for the, for the, for yeah, I said a buck bucks can contend for the championship.

00:25:13.77
youcantcompthis
You said Bucks already, so yeah. Yeah.

00:25:18.27
Adz
Look.

00:25:18.48
youcantcompthis
And then you got Knicks and Raptors.

00:25:18.99
Adz
the The Nets can't.

00:25:19.92
youcantcompthis
That's the other two teams we haven't spoken about.

00:25:21.03
Adz
Knicks, I think they're contenders. I don't know how far into the...

00:25:23.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:25:25.04
Adz
I say contenders for the the conference championship. I don't know about the whole time.

00:25:27.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:25:28.32
Adz
yeah

00:25:28.65
youcantcompthis
So for me, there's like enough meat on the bone to be interested. So like where I'm going with that is, I think what used to be boring when Golden State was in their peak was like, before the season even started, you're like youre pretty sure the Warriors were going to run it back, you know?

00:25:39.65
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:42.62
Adz
True.

00:25:42.88
youcantcompthis
And so.

00:25:43.10
Adz
i'm i'm I'm concerned that the Celtics are going to run it back because there's no one in the East, I think, that are good enough to stop them.

00:25:48.27
youcantcompthis
Well, like for me, when I go through that, I'm like, okay, I think 76 is going to be at least interesting. I think the Bucks have a good chance, but obviously there's some stuff that has to go right. But then you go to the West.

00:25:58.69
Adz
Yep.

00:25:59.38
youcantcompthis
It's like Nuggets, Wolves, OKC. For me, that's three teams. If they make the

00:26:04.89
Adz
arthur the nuggets the The question to mark over the nuggets though, is is is did they did they lose the farm when they lost KCP?

00:26:14.15
youcantcompthis
Yeah, sure. But then we haven't even spoke about Dallas who made it to the finals last year.

00:26:19.39
Adz
Yeah, true.

00:26:19.78
youcantcompthis
And so like, that's the part where I'm like, actually, like, I think this is kind of going to be a fun season. So yeah.

00:26:25.04
Adz
I think it'll be a fun season, but I think think just like last season, Boston finished like 12 games in front of the next best team.

00:26:33.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah, for sure.

00:26:34.84
Adz
And I feel like that's on the cards again, which is scary.

00:26:35.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:26:37.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so we're not the only ones having early season season overreactions here. So this is from a, my internet is so slow at the moment. All righty, this is from at Kyrie Mavs. This is on Twitter. This is like, if you want to go overreactions, check this out. Derek Lively's archetype is really, is the same as Giannis Antetokounmpo. If I recall correctly, Giannis wasn't really Giannis until his third season.

00:27:07.72
youcantcompthis
Lively is already a better three-point shooter. Lively is on a similar pace defensively. Lively's development is with post-ups and ball handling, but we've seen glimpses of both. There is a realistic chance that Lively isn't just a good player or even just a great defensive anchor. He might actually be a superstar. It's time to consider that as a real possibility. Adam, talk about a early season overreaction. Where are you at with this?

00:27:36.57
Adz
Wow, um I don't think whatever he's taking is legal in um in most states.

00:27:38.23
youcantcompthis
ah

00:27:43.93
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I agree with you yeah

00:27:45.01
Adz
um'm um ah what Whatever cool age you've been drinking, seriously, breath test yourself, mate. Like, oh my God. um Yeah, I know, it's just as, I'm sure once, ah who else, who else?

00:27:59.89
Adz
I mean, we could segue this. I'm sure there are people that thought this about the same thing about Bronny James, but.

00:28:07.84
youcantcompthis
Do we want to segue to there now, do we?

00:28:10.69
Adz
I don't know, do we want to go from the the heights of fun of the season to the depths of despair that is the narrative of Brony James' short career in the NBA?

00:28:19.88
youcantcompthis
All right, well, have ah let me finish off my little Derek Lively thing and then, and then let's do Brody James.

00:28:23.09
Adz
Let's, let let's, yeah.

00:28:25.11
youcantcompthis
So look, actually I think Derek Lively is a really good player, but I think to put him in the same sentence as Giannis, like that is very difficult because I think if we're being honest, the athleticism isn't, they're not in the same page.

00:28:27.85
Adz
Oh, solid.

00:28:39.28
youcantcompthis
And then in terms of the defensive acumen the same thing like he's mobility is not there and i think that's why you know this is so special because he can cover so much ground on the court like you know actually and also obviously you know vertically in the air i don't think lively is as naturally superior as what you know this is and then when we're talking about ball handling a passing.

00:29:02.14
youcantcompthis
Look, I think lively is okay, you know, and he can do some interesting things, but I think if you invest your house value into lively cards, I think that's an insanely risky proposition.

00:29:14.09
youcantcompthis
And also just based on the fact he's like a big man, like a true five. Um, yeah, look, I'm not too sure about this, but look, let's just say, can we agree he's got a little bit of upside?

00:29:27.28
Adz
He's got some upside, I like lively.

00:29:28.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:29:29.12
Adz
um You know who who, yeah, I've been reading the comments on his Twitter feed.

00:29:35.59
youcantcompthis
I mean, read some of them now. It's pretty funny.

00:29:37.35
Adz
This is, um like, he's, anybody that sort of drew any criticism to it, it's like, you can lie, like, hang on, like Yarnas has done all these things,

00:29:37.75
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:29:50.11
Adz
Like it's pretty stupid comparison. The guy goes, he's only 20. And then there's more replies from that. And you're like, um, this is pretty crazy disrespect to Yanis.

00:29:55.53
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:29:59.11
Adz
And he's like, I'd argue Yanis was worse than lively year one. Uh, he's a franchise altering player.

00:30:05.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, I think at this point, I feel like comps are more interesting to talk about than the Twitter responses. I think we need to be careful reading out Twitter responses too, right? Yeah.

00:30:15.79
Adz
and a Luca career altering player. It could put the nail in Luca's coffin. Anyway.

00:30:20.61
youcantcompthis
All right. Okay. This one I want to talk to you about 2324 Panini impeccable.

00:30:27.97
youcantcompthis
on-card autograph number to 10. It's sold for 565 USD.

00:30:32.79
Adz
Cool.

00:30:33.18
youcantcompthis
That to me is, that is shocking. So then if you look at a different on-card autograph, so can contenders, that's sold for just 50 AUD. d So an absolute, I actually wonder if that card sale went through to be honest, at 565 USD.

00:30:50.49
youcantcompthis
I can't imagine you would ever get your money back on that ever. um There's a Spectra RPA there for 35 USD. Like in my head, that's more where Lively is and that sort of 50 to $70 for a really nice card.

00:31:00.66
Adz
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

00:31:04.10
youcantcompthis
Like that sort of pocket of the hobby, that's where I put him. I don't put him at $565.

00:31:10.39
Adz
No.

00:31:11.81
youcantcompthis
That's insane for me.

00:31:15.49
Adz
Yeah, yeah. and so Insane's probably the right. I don't know. It's too young. I don't think he's too young to sort of write off.

00:31:21.85
youcantcompthis
Maybe he's got a bit of collectible men. So this is a choice rookie card to 88. That's sold for 117 USD. Maybe there's more lively action than I'm giving him credit for.

00:31:35.38
Adz
possible.

00:31:36.16
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Okay. Look, this is something we need to keep an eye on. I mean, it's an outrageous claim.

00:31:40.23
Adz
He's definitely one to watch. he's dead it Look, it's ah it's an overreaction, that's for sure.

00:31:41.71
youcantcompthis
no Yeah. Yeah. That's delicious.

00:31:45.48
Adz
um But look, I don't think it's a it's gratuitous to think that he's gonna be the third string in that Dallas lineup.

00:31:45.64
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:31:58.44
Adz
He's probably got a better chance of being number three than Clay does.

00:32:04.60
Adz
i

00:32:05.34
youcantcompthis
ah Alrighty, Bronny James um currently tied for the worst plus minus in the preseason at the moment with Jordan Poole and Saar from the Wizards at minus 40.

00:32:16.27
Adz
So Jordan will win a championship.

00:32:20.16
Adz
She's on par with the championship of Calumba player.

00:32:20.42
youcantcompthis
He did.

00:32:22.89
Adz
That's all I'm gonna say. Just paint this narrative. ah Oh my God. Yeah, look, um'm I'm all for i'm all for um Lebron's narrative.

00:32:34.77
Adz
And let's not let's let's let's not discount the fact that this has never never happened. before in the league and LeBron's made it happen. we with with the With the Lakers help, um his son will more than likely be there on opening night. And it'll be awesome to, because history will go back and say LeBron and Bronny played a game of basketball together in the league, it had never been done before. Is he ready? I think I agree with the media and say no.

00:33:10.72
Adz
he's probably gonna end up in the G League. You might get three games, but at what point does bru LeBron get upset with this?

00:33:20.24
youcantcompthis
Yeah, look, that that's sort of part of it, it's not that I don't care.

00:33:24.77
Adz
Hmm.

00:33:28.31
youcantcompthis
I'm actually just not that interested in it. I kind of feel like that's just gonna play out its own natural life or death. Do you know what I mean? He's either gonna make it in the league and he's not.

00:33:37.42
Adz
Hmm.

00:33:39.08
youcantcompthis
And yes, he's really well connected to his dad. And yes, I think there is some coincidence that, you know, the lake has picked him up. Like I'm not,

00:33:46.63
Adz
It's no coincidence, we knew it was going to happen.

00:33:48.41
youcantcompthis
I'm not denying the conspiracy or or in the nepotism or whatever, but what I'm saying is like, at some point, you know, that's going to go away.

00:33:51.70
Adz
Sure.

00:33:55.92
youcantcompthis
And even if there is some, I would still actually make the argument whatever that LeBron is getting plus Bronny James is getting. Let's just say they're doing some cap manipulation to pay LeBron James more.

00:34:08.28
youcantcompthis
It's still not enough to the value add that he brings back to the Lakers. Do you know what I mean? So in the aggregate, I actually, I don't care about this. I'm like, like whatever.

00:34:16.30
Adz
Yeah.

00:34:16.65
youcantcompthis
So the thing I am interested in though is the question I've got for you is, is Bronny James collectible? So at the moment, he won't be signing in Panini.

00:34:26.78
youcantcompthis
He'll only be signing for Fanatic. So I think what's going to happen, you know, this coming year, he'll be in Panini products, but he won't be signing. We're talking about Bronny James at this point, but I'm just looking at 130 point at the moment, like these sales are,

00:34:40.40
youcantcompthis
higher than high-end Derek Lively. Let me put it to you this way. So, 2023 tops Chrome, Brony James, one of 25. PSA, what is that? I can't actually read it. It looks like a PSA 10.

00:34:56.28
youcantcompthis
sold for $1,195 USD. Like we're not talking, you know, a small amount of cheddar here. $23, $24 Bowman University Sapphire, one of 10, SGC 9 sold for $830 USD. So I mean, the question I've got to you, and I think as a Lakers fan, you might be able to explain this to me better, because to me, this is just like crazy stuff.

00:35:21.88
youcantcompthis
Why are people paying that for university, Bowman University sticker autographs?

00:35:22.17
Adz
yeah

00:35:32.10
Adz
It's a, um

00:35:37.32
Adz
for those that are, well, like our friend that drank the Derek Lively Kool-Aid, people don't wanna miss out, right? We've seen he's got the worst, the the worst plus minus and and everything, but in the lead up to that, what if look like Bronnie James was like a closet superstar and he was gonna be just as good as his dad and you missed the out?

00:36:02.46
Adz
It's perceived FOMO, it's gotta be.

00:36:03.86
youcantcompthis
So you think that they're prospecting on his actual top end potential as opposed to the family name, do you?

00:36:10.80
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:36:12.07
youcantcompthis
Okay, because my perception is that I think he's probably got as much talent as Admiral Scofield.

00:36:19.48
Adz
Okay.

00:36:20.36
youcantcompthis
And so, you know, Scofield has been in and out of the league, sort of in and out of the G league.

00:36:25.06
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:36:26.26
youcantcompthis
I don't even know if he's in the league anymore, to be perfectly honest. I don't think he is.

00:36:28.95
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:29.78
youcantcompthis
So he's sort of played like three, two and a half, three and a half years in the league and, you know, and now he's out.

00:36:36.30
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:36.59
youcantcompthis
And sort of my feeling is that it's more about the fact that he's the son of LeBron James as to like, you know, why he's collectible.

00:36:43.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:44.42
youcantcompthis
And I think. You know, so is that just one of those things that you have to just accept is it's just fact. It's just like how there's all the hype around Zion.

00:36:54.63
youcantcompthis
There's all the hype around Jamarant, you know, the same hype is sort of going to be around, you know, Bronnie James, but I just like for me, I find that stuff very difficult to collect and I don't, I don't find it that appealing that, you know, so.

00:37:04.21
Adz
Yeah. Oh, it's a hell of a risk though. Like it's. Yeah. Yeah. But but if you, if you look at any, ah anyone else aside from Wembley, right? In the last year's draft and Wembley was the card and you were looking for other things. That's what, that's what the Bronny James play is. There are people that are taking that punt and paying a premium, a ridiculous premium, even coming from me, that's a ridiculous premium.

00:37:33.17
Adz
on the chance that Bronnie's 80% of his dad.

00:37:41.01
youcantcompthis
i I can't believe that people even consider that to be a real thing. Like, but they do they actually believe that he's going to be 80% of LeBron?

00:37:45.87
Adz
Right, so in in year three, if Bronnie has a breakout, 22, 23 year old Bronnie, all of a sudden, under the tutelage of his old man, blows it up.

00:37:59.71
Adz
becomes an absolute freak and ah of a basketball player. Everybody that got those cards is rolling in it.

00:38:09.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, see, my head's in such a different space, man. I'm like, I don't think he's gonna be.

00:38:11.72
Adz
But no, no, but it's that but that's what they're prospecting on. I'm not saying it. I don't think it'll happen.

00:38:18.23
youcantcompthis
Yeah, you know, I get what you're saying, but I'm just saying to you, like, as a counselor, I'm like, I can't actually believe people are like, like banking on that.

00:38:19.77
Adz
It's the it's the high risk high reward and the reward there is

00:38:25.98
youcantcompthis
I just figured they were buying it because it was

00:38:27.07
Adz
There are people out there that think Luca Doncic is worth investing in. Was that a good time to jab? Yeah.

00:38:34.46
youcantcompthis
I'm forgetting like you're kind of like grinding my gears now with this Lucas stuff. You can't put Luca and Bernie James in the same sentence, man.

00:38:41.91
Adz
they have They have the same number of MVPs.

00:38:42.12
youcantcompthis
That's like, Oh my God.

00:38:44.29
Adz
They have the same number of NBA championships.

00:38:48.48
Adz
Anyway, no, I don't think Bronny is going to be a success story, but people are betting on the fact that what if he is?

00:38:55.98
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:38:56.94
Adz
And that's, he's got the ultimate Faruja factor. There's the only way to describe it.

00:39:01.92
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:03.25
Adz
If he does drop a 50 piece on somebody, the cards go through the roof because he's his father's son.

00:39:10.21
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Can you imagine if he gets 25 points? Even man, I feel like that's going to be like yeah ESPN front page, right?

00:39:15.71
Adz
He comes out and at any point, yep, yep.

00:39:18.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:19.27
Adz
He comes out on opening night and shoots 60% from the field and drops 20 points. They go, geez, I guess the preseason didn't mean anything. Once again, I don't think that's gonna happen.

00:39:29.61
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:30.31
Adz
But if it does, the hype will be b through the roof.

00:39:35.01
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:39:35.48
Adz
Proving the doubt is wrong. Oh, it'll be, you know what I mean.

00:39:40.38
youcantcompthis
but I actually watched a little bit of Lakers the other day and I thought their roster was like pretty competitive. I thought Max Christie like is looking pretty good.

00:39:46.82
Adz
I think they look all right.

00:39:50.12
Adz
He's the one that's taking a step.

00:39:50.13
youcantcompthis
like i don't I don't think he's going to be a star, but I think he's like you know a rotation NBA player.

00:39:57.36
Adz
I think he's evolved and and yeah, he's ready to be a contributing role player.

00:39:58.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And Dalton Knight is looking pretty good.

00:40:01.72
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:40:03.88
youcantcompthis
And I kind of get the feeling him and JJ Redick are going to be boys. Like, you know, coaches like players. I've just kind of got that feeling on that one.

00:40:12.59
Adz
Who's that? Oh, the new one, connect.

00:40:15.53
youcantcompthis
Oh yeah, sorry. What did I say?

00:40:16.70
Adz
Connect, yeah.

00:40:17.19
youcantcompthis
Night? It's connect, isn't it?

00:40:18.06
Adz
No, connect.

00:40:18.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And then the other one that I was watching a um a short on the other day, he came in in the fourth quarter. This kid, this Quincy Oliveri. Like if you're asking me who's going to make the roster Quincy or Brony James, I got to be honest with you.

00:40:27.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:32.30
Adz
Quincy's probably on it.

00:40:33.09
youcantcompthis
I think it's going to be Quincy. Like that kid looks good.

00:40:35.78
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:36.07
youcantcompthis
Like, um, and he's an old rookie too. He's already 23. So that actually makes sense why he's coming in like ready made, you know?

00:40:42.70
Adz
Okay.

00:40:44.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Hey man, let's go for a break.

00:40:45.08
Adz
So Brony's gonna have a heart handful of games.

00:40:46.11
youcantcompthis
and Yeah.

00:40:48.10
Adz
This is a prediction that I'm just gonna make.

00:40:50.34
youcantcompthis
Give us your, give us your overreaction.

00:40:50.48
Adz
And I have a hand handful of games.

00:40:52.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:40:53.40
Adz
He's got ah maybe maybe a dozen games leading up to Christmas.

00:40:57.94
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:40:58.04
Adz
One of those will be when the Lakers are going for their back-to-back in-season tournament championship.

00:41:03.40
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:41:04.07
Adz
And LeBron's trying to run it back. And he can win his second in-season tournament MVP with his son in the team.

00:41:12.07
youcantcompthis
ah

00:41:12.70
Adz
Because he wants the narrative.

00:41:14.62
youcantcompthis
Okay.

00:41:16.67
Adz
It's all narratives. Anyway, yeah, you're right. Let's take a break.

00:41:19.40
youcantcompthis
Let's go to a break. US Sports Cards Australia. Thank you to Ross and team USCA. We really appreciate your support. Now Ross has been slaving away on his project COMCA. So if you go to ussportscardsaustralia.com.au,

00:41:41.63
youcantcompthis
click on the three little noodles on the left hand side and comca will become available for you to click on what you'll find there is basically a small store and it's it's growing since the last time i clicked onto it you submit all of your cards to ross and ross will put them online for you and it's basically a consignment service so then people go in there and buy your cards ross will give you out the money and he'll post out the cards to the people so The other thing that Ross is really keen to do for people too is if you're a breaker and you've got cards that people don't even want to pay for postage, so they're just sitting there in a huge box, you might get 50 cents or a dollar for each card, but there's a couple of hundred in there.

00:42:21.69
youcantcompthis
That's the type of service that Ross is trying to build up here and and start to get cards rolling around the hobby is what Ross wants to do. So you yeah, ussportscardsaustralia.com.au.

00:42:29.57
Adz
What's the rolling? And what?

00:42:32.65
youcantcompthis
Thank you so much um for your support, Ross. We are very, very grateful for it. forty 42 minutes, 40. Probably didn't need to say that out loud, did I?

00:42:47.14
Adz
Oh, you put the end time. I put the start time of the break.

00:42:49.67
youcantcompthis
Ah, is that what they were, sorry.

00:42:51.03
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:51.67
youcantcompthis
um Welcome back. Adam, did you get a drink?

00:42:56.44
Adz
I did, I definitely needed hydration after the my overreaction to Brony James.

00:43:00.73
youcantcompthis
I know, that's right. ah Your tongue must be burning at this point, surely.

00:43:04.62
Adz
Oh look, my mind is my mind has been blown. But you wait in a couple of years when we're comparing Luca Dontich and Brony James.

00:43:14.18
youcantcompthis
Yep.

00:43:18.26
youcantcompthis
All righty, this next one is from Mac Card Collection. And I think we've spoken about this young man on the show before. Look, he does some pretty cool Instagram content. that's It's not clickbaity.

00:43:31.26
youcantcompthis
It's generally pretty thoughtful and and considerate. So if you don't follow him, check him out. he is I think he's a good dude on Instagram. He did this segment recently about the crossover of a card.

00:43:43.51
youcantcompthis
So we we talked about this card.

00:43:44.83
Adz
We talked about this one.

00:43:46.47
youcantcompthis
wheeled Chamberlain card that was found in a box in the back of a you know a shop or something like this it goes off SGC and that was my comment at the time like why on earth would you take this card to SGC so it's been purchased in a private sale for 1.7 million which my opinion at the time was considering all the money that's thrown around these days and sort of on the ultra modern this seems to be like a true one of one of

00:43:51.66
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:10.13
youcantcompthis
you know one of the all-time greats so congratulations to the person who bought this and now 10 x at congratulations because they have crossed it over to PSA 10 I think this is insane honestly and You know when there's the common sense thing that needs to be done and then someone goes out and does that common sense thing?

00:44:28.71
youcantcompthis
I feel like this is, you know, common sense prevails, you know, so to speak.

00:44:29.05
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:44:32.13
youcantcompthis
So well done to the person who's done this. So in terms of the value add, do you think this increases it by two times, by three times? Where you are you at?

00:44:44.56
Adz
i'm i'm That's a hell of a gamble.

00:44:48.48
Adz
And obviously it paid off, but wow. um Is that a $5 million dollars card now?

00:44:53.92
youcantcompthis
So my feeling, yeah, that's exactly my feeling. I reckon this has automatically tripled it and then this won't be sold until it's like a five or a $10 million dollars card.

00:45:00.31
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:04.17
youcantcompthis
I think this just sits in someone's bank vault now and that's it, you know?

00:45:04.46
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:09.51
youcantcompthis
So yeah, honestly.

00:45:10.20
Adz
That's some at someone's inheritance. Literally.

00:45:15.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's a kind of cool inheritance really, isn't it?

00:45:16.49
Adz
Imagine that.

00:45:18.63
youcantcompthis
That's quite nice, yeah.

00:45:18.83
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. That's nuts.

00:45:21.55
youcantcompthis
All righty. Congrats. That's all I can say. Mark Jackson, let's talk about this.

00:45:24.68
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:26.59
youcantcompthis
So this card, somehow we've managed to not talk about this. And I reckon let's just cap this at two minutes ad, because I feel like that's all his card deserves. The Mark Jackson 1991 hoops is spiking again.

00:45:34.69
Adz
I've got a couple of these.

00:45:40.03
youcantcompthis
All to do with the fact that there is a very excellent true kind documentary on Netflix about the Menendez brothers. And so this card is now back into the the mainstream.

00:45:52.12
youcantcompthis
Now, I think when I saw this ah originally, I thought this was selling for a lot higher.

00:45:52.93
Adz
Okay, there's a, okay, now I get it.

00:45:59.07
youcantcompthis
I thought this was selling for hundreds.

00:45:59.97
Adz
No, there are people that have got a but people have got it there up on eBay and stuff for like $1,500 and stuff, to buy it now prices.

00:46:06.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but when you go through the 130 point, so so it's not on Cardletter.

00:46:09.65
Adz
Sold listings.

00:46:12.05
youcantcompthis
I actually think Cardletter should put this card on there. So then, no, but it actually makes sense, right?

00:46:15.07
Adz
ah

00:46:16.76
youcantcompthis
So if you've got people who are crossing over into the hobby from pop culture, like isn't this something you'd want people to look at?

00:46:21.45
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:23.80
youcantcompthis
Like that to me is just like customer service almost.

00:46:26.30
Adz
There's, it's funny that this, ah because I've heard this story a number of times.

00:46:32.96
youcantcompthis
Tell your story or your version of the story.

00:46:35.98
Adz
But everyone's like, isn't there a Mark Jackson card from the 90s? Funnily enough, it's 1990.

00:46:43.02
Adz
That's worth a lot of money because of who's in the background. That was the first I'd ever heard of it.

00:46:47.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:48.29
Adz
And I heard that at basketball, like when I was playing men's basketball.

00:46:52.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:46:53.48
Adz
Like it was a random person that didn't know about, like wasn't a sports cards person. They just heard about it. And I think that's cool. I think it's incredibly cool.

00:47:04.11
youcantcompthis
yeah

00:47:05.19
Adz
And it was, um yeah.

00:47:07.30
youcantcompthis
So I think you have to be a little bit careful of what you say with like high value, but let's just agree or we might disagree. I think this is a $2 card. So it's currently selling 61 AUD, 20 USD, 18 USD, 20 USD again, 20 USD, 21, 15 USD.

00:47:22.18
Adz
Yeah. Well, I just, I found one on eBay that's advertised for 500 bucks.

00:47:27.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah. So, I mean, that's like, that's the buyer beware thing, isn't it? Where people just put stuff on eBay for crazy amounts. But, so let's just say that it's 10 times higher than what it should be.

00:47:38.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:38.48
youcantcompthis
You know, I think that's the best way to describe this card.

00:47:41.28
Adz
Yep.

00:47:42.32
youcantcompthis
Do I think this is collectible? Not for two seconds. Do I think this is collectible? But if you want to go out and spend 20 USD on it, I actually, I'm not even going to criticize you. I'm going to say enjoy it. And if that gives you joy for 20 bucks, I think that's a bargain, frankly.

00:47:56.53
Adz
Yeah, hang on, let's have a look in.

00:47:57.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Hey, so you've got a couple. Did you, you said, yeah, right.

00:48:00.81
Adz
I've got a couple, I bought a box of hoops a couple of years ago. and And it wasn't just for this card. um It was like, it was like 150 bucks for a box of 1990 hoops.

00:48:13.57
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:48:13.89
Adz
I got a couple of Sean Kemp rookies. I got this card a couple of times.

00:48:20.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Right.

00:48:20.41
Adz
I got the um Sam Vincent. with the other Sam Vincent one, the good one, with Michael Jordan wearing the 12.

00:48:28.69
youcantcompthis
Yeah. In the background, yeah.

00:48:31.50
Adz
So Michael Jordan's in the front foreground of the picture with the number 12 on, going for the rebound, Sam Vincent's over the top of him.

00:48:35.07
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:48:37.17
Adz
So you see the number 12 on Jordan very clearly.

00:48:37.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:40.79
Adz
So I'm like, this has got a few cute little quirky cards.

00:48:43.15
youcantcompthis
Interesting subplots, yeah. Yeah.

00:48:45.60
Adz
Yeah, yeah. And and obviously, Like the Sam Vincent one was probably the main reason I wanted to buy a box.

00:48:53.90
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:48:54.62
Adz
um But having the Mark Jackson was just, it was just a bonus for me.

00:48:59.59
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:48:59.79
Adz
um And to to go back to the friend that knew about the card, and he said it's a valuable card, his idea of an expensive card was $50.

00:49:11.81
Adz
Does that make sense?

00:49:11.82
youcantcompthis
Which, yeah, but from the outside, that's actually kind of a common sense thing to say, frankly, like, we all we can get caught up in this crazy world of card collecting, right?

00:49:20.14
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, there have been sales recent sales of it being more than 50 bucks.

00:49:21.34
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:49:24.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:49:25.65
Adz
And that is, I guess, an expensive card if you, if you yeah.

00:49:28.15
youcantcompthis
It is. It is. Yeah.

00:49:30.17
Adz
Like, ah it's not the Wilt Chamberlain.

00:49:34.05
Adz
um Do you know what I mean?

00:49:35.17
youcantcompthis
Or Derek Lively.

00:49:35.76
Adz
They're correct, exactly exactly right. um Or a Bronnie James University card, is a college card.

00:49:44.61
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:49:44.90
Adz
um But it is, it's like there are people that would find this card and go, oh my God, I'm gonna be a millionaire. And then there were people like, oh my God, is that like worth 50 bucks? That's, but it is, it's thrust into the spotlight, I guess.

00:49:59.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:49:59.63
Adz
And and it is, it's it's nice to see the documentary um about the Menendez brothers. um But yeah, are they, is it, so am I right in understanding, cause I haven't seen the doco series yet. This is where they were, it's their parents caught side seats.

00:50:16.80
youcantcompthis
Yeah, basically.

00:50:18.00
Adz
Yeah, yeah. So they're sitting in their parents' court side seats after they'd ended their um their existence.

00:50:21.17
youcantcompthis
Nectum.

00:50:28.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, just chilling out.

00:50:30.30
Adz
Yeah, you know what? Let's go watch the basketball.

00:50:32.46
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:50:32.77
Adz
mum and dad Mum and dad won't be using the tickets. Let's go.

00:50:39.08
Adz
i Yeah, so that's how this this card came to fame.

00:50:44.42
youcantcompthis
Anyway, all right.

00:50:45.26
Adz
And Netflix, it's on Netflix, so everyone's remembering it, so everyone's selling it.

00:50:48.07
youcantcompthis
Check it out, yeah.

00:50:49.79
Adz
It's the Farooja Factor, courtesy of Netflix.

00:50:54.19
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, now this is my own echo chamber that I'm going to be talking down right now, but I don't care.

00:50:58.82
Adz
hu

00:50:59.69
youcantcompthis
Who's been dang? This is someone I've definitely been high on in the past, but just because of the OKC Thunder's depth, it's really hard to actually even make him as a recommendation to buy at the moment.

00:51:10.40
youcantcompthis
I've sort of, I like him, but at the same time, I'm i'm not even recommending. However, uh, against the, oh, sorry, the New Zealand breakers, 20 points, 10 rebounds, nine assists, three, three pointers, and just one turnover.

00:51:24.36
youcantcompthis
He's just 21 years of age. So I think for me, the best G-League MVP also too.

00:51:28.22
Adz
Is he the one that won the MVP and the J-League?

00:51:32.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:51:33.10
Adz
Yep.

00:51:33.28
youcantcompthis
I think, um, the best outcome for this guy is just that he gets released by the Thunder and gets opportunities somewhere else. Honestly, like just what's such a, like a difficult team to break into?

00:51:43.90
Adz
Alright, so what's a good fit for him? Where like where is a good fit for him?

00:51:47.88
youcantcompthis
Look, I love the magic at the moment. I think they're the OKC Thunder of the of the East.

00:51:51.87
Adz
the Of the East. You reckon he fits there though?

00:51:53.23
youcantcompthis
You know, what's that?

00:51:56.09
Adz
where Where does he fit? Does he fit on the magic?

00:51:57.82
youcantcompthis
He would probably come off the bench for them, but at the same time, at least he would get some burn. The other one too, that's doing some kind of like interesting things at the moment is like the Detroit Pistons, where they're just taking on pieces of talent that people are just, you know, and just throwing away there, right?

00:52:10.21
Adz
he I reckon he would thrive in Detroit, yeah.

00:52:13.63
youcantcompthis
So that's the other one. And then the other fun one too is the paces where He goes into a system with Halliburton. You know, he gives, say, Spicy P a bit of a rest and then gets some minutes like that.

00:52:25.15
youcantcompthis
Like, but, you know, the thing in OKC, would he even get three minutes a game at the moment? Like, that team is just so tough.

00:52:31.09
Adz
Yeah, that's tough.

00:52:32.01
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:52:32.44
Adz
That's tough.

00:52:33.82
youcantcompthis
Hey, man, we've really mucked up our scheduling today. So why don't we just have our last break? That's a super short segment, but let's, let's have a break. I think let's do some shout outs too bad. So let's talk about Central Coast Radio.

00:52:46.59
youcantcompthis
The team at Central Coast Radio welcomed us into their arms. So guys, if you would like some Australian grown content that is 100% organic, like these are just DJs like ourselves, you know, making content, putting together radio shows that just love what they do.

00:52:59.64
Adz
Yep. Yep.

00:53:03.57
youcantcompthis
So it's centralcoastradio.com.

00:53:03.98
Adz
yeah

00:53:06.84
youcantcompthis
They're on 24 hours a day. They do have a schedule on there. If you do wanna pick out, you know, particular shows, but we are on ah Tuesday nights at 11 p.m.

00:53:18.51
youcantcompthis
Thursday's at 10 a.m. and then Saturday night at 3 a.m. So if you've been up and you've been out,

00:53:22.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:23.65
youcantcompthis
and you're coming home, don't worry about putting on Rage, just put on Central Coast Radio and then you can listen to our set list and of course our our podcast in there too.

00:53:26.85
Adz
Central Coast Radio.

00:53:34.79
Adz
It's ah just ah just on that though, like you can you can check out all the different hosts on their website as well and see.

00:53:40.11
youcantcompthis
Yeah, they've got a full schedule there, yep, yep, yep.

00:53:41.88
Adz
Yeah, there's a lot of different shows, a lot of different stuff, so yeah, check it out.

00:53:46.76
youcantcompthis
And our last sponsorship note for this week is of course the boys at Fastbreak Trading Cards. We did give them a shout out earlier in the show, but let's do the official one. Fastbreaktradingcards dot.com. Take yourself down to there. You will find sports trading cards, basketball, football, baseball, soccer, UFC, wrestling, fanatics authentic, which is a big part of their business model. They've also got a promo code at the moment YCCT10 will get you 10% off all fanatics memorabilia. Also looking through their site, they've got TCG, so Disney, Locana, Pokemon, One Piece,

00:54:25.57
youcantcompthis
In terms of supplies, they've got the full gamut of supplies, their penny sleeves, top loaders, everything on and on. You can also now do PSA and also ah BGS grading with the boys too and I believe that is in direct partnership with the hobby but obviously all the details will be on the website there.

00:54:47.53
youcantcompthis
and look if you do get down to their shop which is at 75 Tulip Street in Cheltenham please tell them that Adam and Russell sent them down and make sure you take your time when you go down there because they have got really well curated boxes they've got the dollar boxes the five dollars they've got the ten dollars and they've got a cabinet full of

00:54:47.55
Adz
Awesome.

00:55:08.84
youcantcompthis
I'm using air quotes now, but that's sort of hiring product in the glass cabinets there too.

00:55:12.73
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:14.07
youcantcompthis
so So guys, thank you so much for your support. ah It was good to catch up with you guys at the hobby hangout. And yeah, we're honored that you you know want to put your support behind us. So thank you.

00:55:26.19
youcantcompthis
Alrighty, add this is our last segment for this week. what Looking at the list here, what would you like to talk about first? What do you think is the most interesting?

00:55:33.40
Adz
um the most interesting.

00:55:35.42
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:55:36.74
Adz
God, there were a lot of quick hitters. You reckon we could smash through them all?

00:55:40.59
youcantcompthis
Okay let's let's see how we go. So all right let's start with Zion then because this is another one of my early season overreactions and I did put together a cap cut video using AI generated voice which my my wife hates like she absolutely hates it but I think there's some like comedy value to it

00:55:42.59
Adz
We start, all right, do we wanna start? Oh

00:55:56.46
Adz
I heard that. Oh.

00:56:03.23
youcantcompthis
So look, early season reaction, eight of 11 from the field, eight rebounds, 16 points, three assists. I actually thought he looked pretty good, to be honest. I think physically he's looking good, but obviously, you know, the hang up here is the, is the health. So Luke Patterson, he's looking good. Let's see if he can stay healthy. I think that sums it up. You know, in one go, he's pricing at the moment is juicy, man. I don't actually think you can ignore this guy at the moment at the pricing that he's currently at. Um,

00:56:31.57
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:32.73
youcantcompthis
I'm actually not a hater of Zion cards at the moment at the current price that they're at.

00:56:37.74
Adz
Oh, look.

00:56:38.09
youcantcompthis
It's just your risk profile what you want to jump on out, you know.

00:56:42.11
Adz
And that's the thing, right? Like we we the original hype train. Yeah, cool. That crashed. It was a train wreck.

00:56:49.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but if you're jumping on now, like, I've actually never purchased a silver Zion ever.

00:56:50.89
Adz
Jump on now. it's the it's the ye Yeah.

00:56:54.03
youcantcompthis
So now I'm kind of like, actually is now the good time to you know, to jump in.

00:56:58.54
Adz
Yeah, that's true. so

00:56:59.61
youcantcompthis
ah This is again, and

00:57:00.32
Adz
I think it's possible here.

00:57:02.44
youcantcompthis
bit of a personal one. So Herb Jones is announced by the Pelicans. He's going to be starting at center this year. I think he's going to get absolutely crushed physically, but at the same time, skill wise, I think this is going to be very interesting.

00:57:14.86
youcantcompthis
And in terms of, you know, me watching a team play basketball, I think Herb Jones playing center is going to be delicious. So um I'm all in on this.

00:57:21.65
Adz
Interesting.

00:57:22.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah. I think it's not going to hurt his value. I can't say this is, you know, a bad thing for him.

00:57:28.85
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:29.82
youcantcompthis
ah Card ladder, ladder headlines, Nicole Yochik, BGS 9.5, 2015 National Treasures on Card Autograph. That was a mouthful to 99 and I barely studied.

00:57:41.69
youcantcompthis
Last sold for $17,000.

00:57:46.15
Adz
Wow.

00:57:46.26
youcantcompthis
I think for me, this is just finally people are giving him the recognition that he deserves. so And I hope this keeps trending up. So congratulations to that buyer.

00:57:57.07
Adz
Yeah, I was gonna say buy, hold or sell at 17K.

00:58:01.26
youcantcompthis
I mean, look, I was looking at the previous sales that was around 10 and six, I would have preferred to pay for it then. But I think my current sort of thought process is that, unfortunately, we've just missed the yo kick train and, but it's all heading and in the right direction of, you know, where it should be. Like his resume is insane.

00:58:21.92
youcantcompthis
Like, it it doesn't actually make sense to me when I look at his prices as to actually what he's outputted, yep.

00:58:27.38
Adz
agree. Yeah.

00:58:29.53
youcantcompthis
Clay Thompson, this is from Alt Official. Now this is a little bit of a special card. That's the reason why I put this in here as opposed to it being Clay Thompson. But 2012, so that's that really classic panini design.

00:58:41.45
Adz
That's his rookie.

00:58:41.59
youcantcompthis
The gold prism number to 10, PSA 10. That sold for 13,250. I've got no problems with this at all.

00:58:49.62
Adz
i look That's that makes sense to me because that's that prism the 2012 that's his that's his considered his rookie card And on the Mavericks he's behind Luca Kyrie lively he's Yeah, he's like fourth and fifth banana

00:58:51.78
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

00:58:56.30
youcantcompthis
Yeah. And talk about, you know, undervalued people in the hobby. I get it. His personality piece. He's behind Draymond and Clay and Steph in terms of, you know, personalities. I get that. I get all of that. But

00:59:11.78
youcantcompthis
It's weird, right, isn't it? And at the same time, he's an absolute champion of champions. You know, so I've, I've, I've got a lot of love for him and respect the way that he conducts himself.

00:59:18.47
Adz
He is. He is. He is.

00:59:24.13
youcantcompthis
And so I probably think that he's just a little bit undervalued. So it's good to see him getting some shade.

00:59:28.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:30.13
youcantcompthis
ah This next one is Wembley catching a lob from Chris Paul, so I dodgily recorded this and put it up on Instagram onto the Reels. Man, if you're not excited about this season, I feel like you just need to watch this really crappy video like 10 times over and it's gonna be like, we are gonna be seeing this for 65 games this year, Chris Paul throwing lobs to Wembley. I love this so much.

00:59:53.96
Adz
This is one of my highlight things to be excited about in this, in the off season.

01:00:01.26
youcantcompthis
Hmm.

01:00:03.40
Adz
Like one of the best point guards this game has seen, so cerebral, teaching Wembley where to be, how to how how to how to how to do everything he needs to.

01:00:09.28
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:18.65
youcantcompthis
And you go from Sochan throwing you lobs to Chris Paul. Like in terms of an upgrade, could you have done it any better?

01:00:24.99
Adz
it's

01:00:26.93
youcantcompthis
Like, is it possible to have upgraded

01:00:29.17
Adz
It's Steve Nash could have come out of retirement. I don't know. John Stockton.

01:00:32.19
youcantcompthis
I mean, I reckon Steve Nash probably gets around about how I do these days. Like a cantor is he's probably top speed.

01:00:37.39
Adz
True.

01:00:40.38
youcantcompthis
You know what I mean?

01:00:41.23
Adz
Yeah, with his back problems.

01:00:41.46
youcantcompthis
Like that guy was cooked, you know, back in the day.

01:00:44.53
Adz
When he was playing for the Lakers, he was cooked.

01:00:45.19
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:00:46.68
Adz
Yeah.

01:00:48.23
youcantcompthis
Hey man, I want to talk about this actually. I'm going to go off on a tangent here. Chris Paul, 2005 tops Chrome refractor.

01:00:55.62
Adz
Mm hmm.

01:00:56.84
youcantcompthis
which is his rookie year, basically.

01:01:00.06
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:00.80
youcantcompthis
um Population on this is 24. It last sold for $990.

01:01:08.36
youcantcompthis
Again, I sort of put Chris Paul into that Clay Thompson conversation where his resume exceeds his card values. Is it possible that Wembley could drag his card value upwards?

01:01:21.04
Adz
So which one's this the

01:01:23.05
youcantcompthis
I have not got this in the sheet at all, mate.

01:01:24.86
Adz
2005 chrome refractor.

01:01:26.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah, yep, yep.

01:01:27.55
Adz
Yep. I'm on card ladder now. I'm just count is gems 86.

01:01:30.63
youcantcompthis
Sorry, that was a an instant segue and I was like, hang on a minute, are we missing the true narrative here?

01:01:43.74
Adz
Okay. There's nothing much in the Beckett. Okay.

01:01:47.01
youcantcompthis
Even if, but add, even if that number was 200, like comparative to the ultra-modern where, you know, Wembley's what he's gonna get through, he's already at 3000, right?

01:01:53.88
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

01:01:57.48
Adz
It's under $1,000. It's down 45%. This is a steal.

01:02:03.38
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:02:08.86
youcantcompthis
This might be the most intelligent thing we've said in a long time, mate.

01:02:14.57
youcantcompthis
All right, let's keep this quick hitting.

01:02:15.70
Adz
yeah Yep, yep, yep.

01:02:16.76
youcantcompthis
James Gregory, listen to question. Podcast chat, ICG, TCG. grading card company, walked into a card shop in Liverpool in Sydney and I would say 90% of the cards displayed were ICG, TCG graded which I found a little strange and I did want to spend time looking at comps. What's your views on TCG graded cards or other Australian grading companies and how they stack up in the international market?

01:02:38.15
youcantcompthis
ah i don't think there's a need to use TCG or ICG anymore. And the reason is because the grading turnaround time is so much faster now.

01:02:50.86
youcantcompthis
I think there was a place for these grading companies when the weight was two years. I think that's unreasonable to wait two years for your cards to come back.

01:02:55.24
Adz
Yeah.

01:02:58.61
Adz
Yep.

01:02:58.61
youcantcompthis
I also think too that at one point the pricing was just effing insane and there's no reason to spend hundreds of dollars to get your card graded whereas that that is again completely flipped around altogether um and to answer the question specifically about the international

01:03:03.14
Adz
yeah Yep. Yeah, for sure.

01:03:14.03
youcantcompthis
um people People from America don't even know Australia exists, let alone that people from America know that there's a grading card company from Australia called TCG.

01:03:24.34
youcantcompthis
Do you know what I'm saying? like And as much as I'm joking saying that people from America don't actually know, there is actually people from America that have never left America.

01:03:25.52
Adz
Yeah.

01:03:33.82
Adz
Yeah, it's true.

01:03:34.38
youcantcompthis
like you know

01:03:35.25
Adz
Like they don't, no, they literally don't know, and they don't care.

01:03:36.11
youcantcompthis
so Yeah, which I love about Americans, by the way, like American listeners don't get your knickers in a twist.

01:03:41.43
Adz
That's fine.

01:03:42.28
youcantcompthis
I love you guys. And I love America.

01:03:43.56
Adz
Well, hopefully we can wake them up to to the fact that we exist in the hobby, but it's, you're right.

01:03:44.98
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:49.98
Adz
like the gri Like, if Beckett doesn't stand a chance, why would anyone else?

01:03:54.86
youcantcompthis
Yeah, that's right.

01:03:55.80
Adz
that's thats That's the simple story.

01:03:58.09
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:03:58.15
Adz
like It's PSA these days and they's so it's so accessible. You're right. but's just yeah I think any high quality grading company with its salt, no offence to the the smaller ones that are based in Australia and whatnot, but PSA are absorbing them.

01:04:12.05
youcantcompthis
No, no, I don't think that's we're not shooting shots here at the grading company.

01:04:18.06
Adz
The good ones are being absorbed.

01:04:19.71
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:04:20.85
Adz
and

01:04:22.57
youcantcompthis
So I supposed to

01:04:22.91
Adz
I'm sorry, but unless you, like you don't, there's no point in inventing a bread slicer these days.

01:04:27.73
youcantcompthis
Yeah, I think I suppose the question is why would you send your card to these companies? I think I think there is an element of people out there that as much as I was taking the piss out of Americans, that they also want to support Aussies and have things Aussie homegrown, you know, and that's fine.

01:04:41.13
Adz
True.

01:04:41.26
youcantcompthis
But I think Oh,

01:04:41.69
Adz
That's fair. That's fair. But you've got the, like the, the premium and go-to is PSA.

01:04:48.61
youcantcompthis
no, that's not even a conversation. But I think in terms of pricing, you just price it on raw. And that's it. It's just

01:04:54.23
Adz
do you price do Do you price it as raw or do you...

01:04:56.36
youcantcompthis
Yeah, it's there's no added value getting these cards.

01:04:59.36
Adz
Premium raw?

01:05:00.32
youcantcompthis
No, no, no, no.

01:05:03.40
Adz
oh

01:05:03.51
youcantcompthis
Matthew Hull, listen to question. Derek Rose, the best to have ever not got a ring and the all time comeback kid for a Chicago town.

01:05:09.62
Adz
Yes.

01:05:12.59
youcantcompthis
I always followed NBA, but it did waiver after the Jordan years for me, as it did for every diehard Bulls fan. It hasn't been easy. ah Don't cry me a river you Bulls fans when you get these championships and then have bad teams.

01:05:23.22
Adz
I know, these poor these the the poor six championships they won.

01:05:24.07
youcantcompthis
so

01:05:26.57
youcantcompthis
Seriously, but Derek brought us back to life. He and Noah plus Gibson and a few others brought the ball game back to Chicago. Coke Heinrich was like a big deal for you guys. um Bed Gordon was good too.

01:05:37.23
youcantcompthis
His jersey was the first one I ever bought after Jordan and Pippin.

01:05:40.00
Adz
Yep.

01:05:40.63
youcantcompthis
You won't change my mind, but who else has had a profound effect on the league and a franchise? Look, I think um There's actually some really good people who didn't win championships and probably for me the all time is like Karl Malone because if you actually sort of break down his resume, it's actually insane that the guy.

01:05:58.42
youcantcompthis
didn't get, you know, one championship.

01:05:58.84
Adz
Didn't win a championship.

01:06:00.55
youcantcompthis
He did jump onto that Lakers team to try and win a ring, but then, you know, it got destroyed by Detroit.

01:06:03.84
Adz
Hmm.

01:06:05.82
youcantcompthis
So um John Stockton, Reggie Miller are probably the other big ones there. And then, you know, we have to sort of start moving into like the ultra modern guy. So Vince Carter's in that conversation.

01:06:15.51
Adz
Yep.

01:06:17.59
youcantcompthis
And of course we were just talking about Chris Paul. I think the way that's going to play out, it's going to be Chris Paul. And then, you know, Steve Nash won two MVPs and didn't get a championship.

01:06:25.05
Adz
Didn't get a chip.

01:06:26.86
youcantcompthis
So, And I would probably put them ahead of Derek Rose.

01:06:28.14
Adz
becley

01:06:30.57
youcantcompthis
I think in terms of revitalizing a fan base and also an organization like MVP, Derek Rose was sick.

01:06:31.22
Adz
No. Yeah.

01:06:40.65
youcantcompthis
Like he was amazing, but I wouldn't say he's better than Reggie Miller. Like Reggie Miller was the shit, you know?

01:06:47.08
Adz
What about Russell Westbrook?

01:06:50.53
youcantcompthis
Oh yeah. that He's the ultra modern.

01:06:52.89
Adz
Mr. Triple Double, never winning a chip.

01:06:53.88
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:06:55.22
Adz
Oh, except this year in Denver, maybe, who knows?

01:06:57.96
youcantcompthis
Yeah, so yeah.

01:07:02.16
Adz
All right.

01:07:02.17
youcantcompthis
Uh, this was one that I came up with after I saw an autograph of the FISA collier, which is also a very topical one considering that her team is in the NBA finals at the moment.

01:07:13.03
youcantcompthis
And they, the WNBA finals, I should say, and beat Sabrina's team in game one. So I actually love that autograph. I think that's a really thoughtful autograph.

01:07:23.11
youcantcompthis
It fits on the sticker. It's not smudged. It's got a number. It's got a whole name onto it.

01:07:27.82
Adz
It's like she's just written a name and a number inside the box.

01:07:31.32
youcantcompthis
Yeah, but man, compared to like other autographs like that, it's like a very, you know what I mean?

01:07:34.92
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:35.78
youcantcompthis
It's a very thoughtful autograph. Like I love it.

01:07:37.15
Adz
But I'm like, do you do you think, do do you think her market manager was like, so you're gonna start so signing autos?

01:07:38.17
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:07:42.59
Adz
What do I do? Just write your name in the box. Okay.

01:07:44.99
youcantcompthis
Nah man, I don't reckon the managers would micromanage this at all. I think they're just like, it'd just be like them ticking off a box. I need to post out the stickers and I need to get them back at some point, you know, and I doubt they even care about the deadline.

01:07:54.72
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:58.46
youcantcompthis
Hence why we have 15 million redemptions floating around.

01:08:01.38
Adz
Oh, good.

01:08:02.59
youcantcompthis
Alright, so we had some good listener interactions on this.

01:08:02.72
Adz
Yes.

01:08:05.19
youcantcompthis
Lachlan Brunt sent in the nice Rick Barry there. That is actually a spectacular autograph. And that particular example too, which is just like a beautiful, shiny revolution card.

01:08:16.35
youcantcompthis
I'm gonna guess that's a Starburst, but at the same time, I'm not too sure what that is.

01:08:21.86
Adz
that's ah That's a very nice looking um autograph is what that is.

01:08:25.97
youcantcompthis
Luke Batterson, so he's earned the top contributor badge. So congratulations, Luke, and thank you for your contributions. Submitted to Kamala Anthony, and that's someone else that we didn't include in the Derek Rose conversation, did we too, right?

01:08:37.44
Adz
Yeah. Carmelo, yep.

01:08:40.18
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Um, and he also made a note there that actually mellows autographs changed over time.

01:08:45.77
Adz
Mm-hmm.

01:08:45.94
youcantcompthis
So that's a cool one. And this is the one I wanted to talk to you about the most. Add is this Jordan one from Andrew Suter Hewitt. It's like, almost had we forget this as a really good autograph.

01:08:59.30
Adz
I guess we don't see it all that often.

01:09:02.99
youcantcompthis
Do you know,

01:09:03.31
Adz
He doesn't sign he hasn't signed for a while.

01:09:05.43
youcantcompthis
You know, the funny thing was I've never actually thought about how good his auto is. I just, it's sort of all one of those things that's always sort of been there. I've never really put that much thought into it.

01:09:12.70
Adz
what What a Michael Jordan. Yeah.

01:09:14.64
youcantcompthis
It's actually an insanely good autograph. It's like, it's a piece of art. So, yeah.

01:09:19.51
Adz
It's pretty it's a pretty cool auto.

01:09:21.97
youcantcompthis
Clint Reed, thanks for chipping in, mate. You put this sticker auto in here from Jalen Pickett. Yeah, it's kind of cool.

01:09:28.13
Adz
Putting their number in, it sucks when they change jersey though.

01:09:32.88
youcantcompthis
um This next one from Brad, Brad, I can't do this one mate, it's NFL, sorry buddy. um George G with a Patrick Ewing autograph, of course he's contributing that one there, that is, um you don't like that?

01:09:43.06
Adz
But he's written over his shorts, what's going on? You can't, you don't wreck the image. You've got to have the, auto's got to stand out for itself.

01:09:53.09
youcantcompthis
So I think, because see the Skybox logo that's there at, he didn't sign over that.

01:09:57.02
Adz
ah

01:09:58.77
youcantcompthis
I i don't actually, because his pants are mostly white, I'm okay with that.

01:10:04.43
Adz
Fair, fair. I don't know.

01:10:07.12
youcantcompthis
He's, and then the, the die cut part of his face hasn't been, you know, taken over. So yeah.

01:10:13.26
Adz
True, true. True. I do like the the um the next one by um by Brad Van Delft.

01:10:22.72
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Talk to me.

01:10:24.17
Adz
It's an Oscar Robertson.

01:10:25.60
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:10:26.61
Adz
That's a very, that's just a sleek.

01:10:28.14
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:10:30.46
Adz
Actually, I would have put mine in, I would have said Kareem. but

01:10:34.84
youcantcompthis
Yeah, he puts a lot of time and and energy into it.

01:10:37.59
Adz
Yep.

01:10:38.59
youcantcompthis
Steven Hallam is basically agitating all the demons from my closet. Admiral Scofield from the Wizards had a clean auto. He does. If anyone's looking to purchase Scofield, I've got about 25,000 Scofield cards in my cupboard.

01:10:50.81
Adz
Oh, he's put put it down in the comments. He's got a reply with a nice, a pretty Scofield one there. It is a very, very nice looking auto.

01:10:59.56
youcantcompthis
It's good. His question is, do you actually want them? you know

01:11:03.52
Adz
Yeah, yeah. This is true.

01:11:06.02
youcantcompthis
Scotty James, no way, man. We are not doing wrestling on this show, but good to see you made at the show yesterday.

01:11:11.17
Adz
Well, Clint Reed finished it out with lo ah Alonzo Morning.

01:11:12.65
youcantcompthis
Yeah.

01:11:16.33
Adz
That is a pretty that is pretty hot autograph.

01:11:18.43
youcantcompthis
Yeah. Look, at I think let's pull up stumps here, mate. I think that's a perfect time to end the show and thanks everybody for your contributions and and interacting with us.

01:11:22.85
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

01:11:28.27
youcantcompthis
that It was good to, you know, bump into a few people at the show yesterday, come up and said hi. So yeah, thank you.

01:11:32.68
Adz
That was fantastic.

01:11:34.43
youcantcompthis
Adam, thank you for a lovely evening. Adam, thank you for your, um, your YouTube Pro S to all the the work you do on that. It's really appreciated. And the short videos you've been making for the, for the socials, they're doing really, really well at the moment.

01:11:45.79
Adz
No worries.

01:11:47.64
youcantcompthis
So thank you for that.

01:11:47.70
Adz
ah There'll be another wave of of crazy videos and funny and not so funny.

01:11:51.52
youcantcompthis
I don't think of, well, even if it's not funny, it's funny, right?

01:11:54.12
Adz
Who knows?

01:11:57.00
Adz
That's it. if the The ones that aren't funny are probably the funniest.

01:12:03.35
Adz
What can I say? um Yeah, this has been a lot of fun. It's it's good. Your Your way on vacation, enjoy your enjoy your ah your time away. I'll try not to break the podcast while you're off.

01:12:16.39
youcantcompthis
i mean what can you do? Do you want me to change the password so you can't muck stuff up?

01:12:20.92
Adz
No, no, no, i'll um I'll find a way if you do that. ah And we'll see you next week.

01:12:29.16
youcantcompthis
Alrighty guys, thanks everyone for tuning in.