Episode 171: Zaccharie Risacher, Cade Cunningham, WNBA Select, SGA, Dyson Daniels, GG Jackson, Jalen Brunson

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- Zion out indefinitely
-Embiid fine
- Embiid suspension; 3 games without pay
- NBA standings: takeaways: 10 games in
- Gregg Popovich illness
- Zaccharie-Risacher  Highlights
- Cade Cunningham
- SGA fastbreak pink
- WNBA select
- Dyson daniels again 
- most expensive cards   
- GG Jackson 
- jalen brunson 1/1 sale     lememe james x brunson   
- Froth material
- 2nd year players     
-wemby heat check 
RJ barrett   
-KD Injury   
- Ochai Agbaji Trade one year on   
- Scottie Pippen

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00:00:15.30
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 171 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We are your hosts, Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:28.02
Adz
And the NBA season is underway. People are putting up points, getting injured, um missing games, being fined, all the good stuff's happening.

00:00:31.52
Russell Gibson
properly underway yeah yeah teams winning that teams winning you didn't expect to win teams losing you don't expect to lose um that's amazing so if utah gets a win before say the the 76ers that's kind of funny

00:00:42.18
Adz
Well, not all not all the good stuff. There's some bad stuff, but... I think, has everybody got a win now? I think everybody, Utah won the other day, I'm pretty sure. I think everybody's got a win. Yeah.

00:01:01.08
Adz
Well, I was gonna say, the 76ers are in that kind of similar conversation piece, because aren't they um ah they literally... the the second yeah have they really um overreactions are a terrible thing that's what's not uh i'm not i'm not um i'm surprised by the cavaliers i will i will

00:01:10.69
Russell Gibson
They're one and seven. Okay. You're right. Yeah. So the jazz have actually got two wins, man. So, all right, let's just get straight into it. Cause we actually had this in the sheet. Let's just skip down a couple of things and let's just go to our early season takeaways. What have you got so far? Like what's surprising you? No, but at this point, you know, we're 11 games in. If you're talking about the Cavaliers.

00:01:38.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:01:39.02
Adz
my hand up and say I was waiting for them to sort of come up against some real competition and fall over and that hasn't happened yet strangely um they're looking good I've gotten I've got a bad word to say about the cabs um they gave us a spanking I didn't appreciate that but it was um other early takes I guess it's good to see Jar Marant back that man can fly

00:01:43.85
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:02:02.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Ridiculous, isn't he?

00:02:03.90
Adz
That, that layup is, yeah, ah that was impressive.

00:02:07.12
Russell Gibson
You're talking about the 360 ones here. Yeah.

00:02:08.61
Adz
The 360, that was, it's good to see Jar back.

00:02:10.18
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:02:13.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:02:14.43
Adz
um And the Warriors aren't done yet.

00:02:18.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:02:19.10
Adz
They're my three takeaways.

00:02:21.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:02:22.17
Adz
So far.

00:02:23.71
Russell Gibson
So I think, I think for me, obviously the Cleveland one is definitely taking me by surprise and It's a, like again, it's a really good surprise, but also it's not overly shocking too, just with the continuity that they've actually had. And they believed in that roster and they've, you know, they've invested into it and and they've kept it together. So like, I'm um'm super happy about it. I think Evan Mobley is playing really well. And I think this might be maybe the best version we see of Evan Mobley. So if you like to see versatile big guys play both ends of the floor, play the right way, then probably tune into some Cleveland league pass. Cause I think they've been pretty fun this year.

00:02:59.54
Adz
Yeah.

00:02:59.84
Russell Gibson
I think my other one that I sort of appreciate more than anything is probably the Bulls this year. I just think they've just been such a pleasant surprise how I sort of felt about say Charlotte Hornets two years ago and maybe last year the magic.

00:03:06.36
Adz
o yeah

00:03:11.85
Russell Gibson
I was just like that was just a fun team I always enjoyed to you know to watch. So I'm putting Bulls into that sort of thing there. Look, I'm a bit sad about the magic. I think Banchero being hurt is a really like a big blow because actually if you look at the E, so you go to number three, you've got the nicks at four and four.

00:03:27.69
Russell Gibson
So it's such a soft conference in that sort of middle bit.

00:03:28.56
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:30.88
Russell Gibson
So if you had someone like Banchero who was back for the magic, you know, you could really make a, yeah, you can make a strong argument.

00:03:34.06
Adz
The East have been a bit of a punching bag for the the rest of the league at the moment, but yeah.

00:03:38.59
Russell Gibson
Okay. Well, you know, the magic would be in third place right now.

00:03:40.93
Adz
Hmm.

00:03:41.13
Russell Gibson
Like that's, that's, you know, that's a really, you know, big bit of progress. I think the Hawks are probably the one to watch because

00:03:47.77
Adz
Hmm.

00:03:48.36
Russell Gibson
I kind of feel like they don't own their own pick this year.

00:03:48.77
Adz
Hmm.

00:03:53.03
Russell Gibson
You know, are they going to make sort of a desperation trade? Are they going to try and, you know, make something happen? And they've had a lot of injuries this year too.

00:03:58.35
Adz
Do you know?

00:04:00.52
Russell Gibson
And I think that hasn't helped their sort of their stock at all. And then.

00:04:03.56
Adz
That's true. Well, looking at the East, I think the summary after you go to the top two being Boston and Cleveland, the the key question I have is what do the Utah Jazz, the Philadelphia 76ers and the Milwaukee Bucks all have in common?

00:04:10.08
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:04:19.39
Russell Gibson
not many wins yeah yeah so the 76 is this is the other one that's kind of like this is really interesting too so they won and seven at the moment

00:04:19.42
Adz
And that is seven losses against their name.

00:04:23.82
Adz
They're like three of the three of the bottom five are those three teams. Like it's,

00:04:37.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:38.41
Russell Gibson
Now, what teams can do. So think about what the Spurs did years ago when they won the Tim Duncan lottery. The Admirals out so sort of for half a year. They didn't bring him back.

00:04:48.75
Russell Gibson
They basically just tanked a year, even though they they probably could have been competitive, maybe snuck in and got the eighth seed.

00:04:52.42
Adz
Sure.

00:04:55.35
Russell Gibson
The 76ers can't do that this year.

00:04:56.85
Adz
Yeah, snakey.

00:04:57.27
Russell Gibson
They can't do a sneaky tank because Guess Who owns their draft pick. Oklahoma City Thunder owns their draft pick. Top six protected. And so what, and this is like in my head where I think this is super risky for the Sixers is like, just say they, they qualify in 10th, but because the East is pretty soft, actually that might be, I was trying to like guesstimate the numbers.

00:05:15.47
Adz
Yep.

00:05:21.19
Russell Gibson
I think actually it could be anywhere between like 14 and 13, 14, 15. That's realistically where it could come in. And then the Thunder get that pick too, like,

00:05:32.29
Adz
Can you imagine that like the Thunder, ah there's a realistic chance that they're going to be here at the pointy end of the season. The Thunder could potentially win a championship and get the number one pick.

00:05:39.48
Russell Gibson
still be adding.

00:05:43.22
Adz
Can you imagine that?

00:05:44.56
Russell Gibson
So or is that maybe, are you saying that the clippers bottom out and get the number one pick and then there's a pick swap there? Like I don't know all the picks off the top of my head, but yeah, I think you're right though.

00:05:55.45
Adz
Hmm.

00:05:57.10
Russell Gibson
It would be pretty crazy. Uh, I think the other one too is just the, so if you go to Kirk Goldsbury on Instagram, Twitter, like wherever you want to follow him and you just see the efficiency numbers for the warriors.

00:06:07.65
Russell Gibson
So they're like top five offense and defense at the moment.

00:06:12.43
Adz
Golden State.

00:06:12.53
Russell Gibson
And so yeah. And so historically what normally that means is you're going to be a really good playoff team. You know, that's sort of where that's at. So that's really taken me by surprise a little bit.

00:06:24.40
Russell Gibson
Oklahoma is easily the best defensive team in the league by like a significant margin. But what has actually taken me bad by surprise is their offensive numbers, like they're not that good.

00:06:35.67
Russell Gibson
So, you know, whether that sort of evens out a little bit as the year goes on and sort of funny, I don't really think of them as a fantastic defensive team.

00:06:37.08
Adz
Hmm.

00:06:43.47
Russell Gibson
I more think of them as a very sort of offensively versatile team, but

00:06:48.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:48.73
Russell Gibson
They are stifling, you know, and so that's kind of fun to watch too. Like it's not that often you actually say, look, I enjoy watching teams play good D, but you know, they're, they're really, really good.

00:07:01.13
Russell Gibson
And I think if you sort of just really quickly zoom down to the bottom and then the Palakans at three and seven, they're in big trouble. And I think that's probably our first segue into the first thing that we're going to talk about in the show is that into a segue.

00:07:11.41
Adz
So we're sort of segwaying back to our, into, is but the segway reverse, two segways make, we're back onto the run sheet.

00:07:19.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah, back onto the run tree. It's quite nice, really.

00:07:20.90
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:07:22.11
Russell Gibson
So Zion's out indefinitely. And that was a... What do we call it? A a sham bomb? Do we call it a...

00:07:28.47
Adz
guess it wow Yeah, we've got to figure out a ship on.

00:07:35.60
Russell Gibson
It's it's weird not having Woge around. I do miss Woge, I must say. Look, I think Shams is doing a good job. I'm definitely not throwing shade at the guy, but I have to admit, I quite quite love Woge.

00:07:44.86
Adz
Yeah, I don't, yeah, we'll have to, we'll have to really have to to think about that. Shams will make it, will evolve.

00:07:52.98
Russell Gibson
I'm sure I'll grow to love him. Yeah.

00:07:54.40
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:07:55.82
Russell Gibson
Anyway, so Zion's out indefinitely. I think for me, there's two things that it comes to my head sort of straight away. The first thing is that I think the pals are in really big trouble this year. And then the second thing is I think I've done with Zion.

00:08:09.20
Russell Gibson
I can't, I'm

00:08:10.72
Adz
And Zion's done with Zion if he's out indefinitely. Oh my goodness.

00:08:14.44
Russell Gibson
There was sort of ah a piece in the back of my head where I'm like, look, it's going to be okay. You know, I think he's still got a chance to bounce back, but this is just again and again and again. You know what I mean? I just can't.

00:08:22.95
Adz
But if he's got hamstrings that are made of, I don't know, tissue paper.

00:08:27.60
Russell Gibson
I just can't keep doing this. And then it's the whole thing. Zion, you know, takes his epic and gets back into shape, you know, and here he comes like he's, he's ready to go and you know, blah, blah, blah. But I'm out, man, honestly.

00:08:36.64
Adz
Ready to kill it.

00:08:38.83
Russell Gibson
So in the last three months, he's down 22%. Last sold for 310.

00:08:45.09
Adz
Really?

00:08:46.16
Russell Gibson
What I would like to do though is direct comp this to jam around because I think this is going to be the really good sort of like, you know, comparison.

00:08:46.29
Adz
Three is, yeah, what are we gonna do?

00:08:53.46
Russell Gibson
Here we go. Okay, great. We've got one guy going down and then I think we're going to see one guy, like you know, going up.

00:08:57.27
Adz
The resurgence of of Jar, of the flying man himself.

00:08:58.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So the last two months. actually he's not that much up so the last three months he's up five percent he's actually had a couple of pretty big swings here though he was up to 740 at one point so you know it depends which way you look at the stats but he last sold for 575 so in terms of the dollar value that's 200 plus difference between him and Zion and and who would have thought when these guys came out of the draft like for a really long time you know Zion was you know way way ahead of Well, do you know what would be really cool if you could plot the two graphs at the same time to sort of watch their ups and downs?

00:09:29.58
Adz
Well,

00:09:35.01
Adz
this would be one of those, let's reach out to Ryan, generate and jim might be like, we wanna play with some data.

00:09:35.22
Russell Gibson
That would be interesting.

00:09:39.57
Russell Gibson
Ryan would know how to do it, yeah.

00:09:44.82
Adz
No, I like it, I just, ah it's so, it's frustrating at times watching Zion like this.

00:09:51.51
Russell Gibson
um I'm done.

00:09:52.69
Adz
I know, I just,

00:09:54.48
Russell Gibson
I actually don't know. I'll watch a single more pelicans game this year. I actually don't care for it. I don't care for Ingram.

00:10:00.03
Adz
it even but Even like the last three months before the injury, there was no confidence.

00:10:01.60
Russell Gibson
you know

00:10:07.65
Adz
Do you know what I mean? Like it's... I don't know, if you go to the six month prices. Oh no, people did get a bit excited.

00:10:17.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah, definitely.

00:10:19.27
Adz
But really, like six months ago, we were below 300 and now we're just above it. It's... Yeah, no, no. Bye bye Zona.

00:10:29.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think just get rid of it while you can.

00:10:35.00
Adz
is it it's debt is it Is it a definite sell? Or is it is it just gonna tank out now? Are you gonna just lose money doing this?

00:10:43.29
Russell Gibson
I don't know how many Zion cards I'm holding, maybe five or 10. Like it's nothing in the scheme of things. And, you know, how many billion dollars came off the market due to Zion's declining prices?

00:10:49.28
Adz
Yeah.

00:10:55.94
Russell Gibson
Who knows? So like I'm not affected. I'm not in the game. Do you know what I mean? So it's very easy for me to say this.

00:10:59.21
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I'm just looking to i'm looking at the jar game now of, yeah. Yeah.

00:11:04.63
Russell Gibson
But I just, I honestly, I just feel exhausted by this. I just feel, and I also kind of feel like too, there's more interesting things for us to talk about. Like this, this story's played out. So for me, I'm sort of now thinking, what's the guy's best case scenario?

00:11:18.12
Russell Gibson
Maybe it's Bill Walton, you know, he goes to a really good team. He comes off the bench and helps him win the championship. You know, maybe that's the ah high point of his, what his career is going to be.

00:11:24.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:27.94
Russell Gibson
But.

00:11:28.26
Adz
Yeah. It's pretty bad though.

00:11:33.76
Russell Gibson
It's a shame. The guy just can't keep healthy. He's insanely skilled and all the rest of it, but.

00:11:38.45
Adz
When he exited the playoffs last, the the sorry, the play-in last year before the playoffs, um that hamstring injury against the Lakers, it was so heartbreaking.

00:11:43.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:11:47.45
Adz
He was he was turning the game, he was he was about to run over the top of LA.

00:11:52.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:11:52.95
Adz
Every time he gets your hopes up like that though, he just...

00:11:57.46
Adz
I think that would have been the most he strung together in a whole season, that little patch, like last year.

00:12:01.33
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:12:03.39
Adz
And if that's the best we're ever gonna, it's not the talent at all, it's the health.

00:12:03.41
Russell Gibson
It's not his talent, it's... Yeah.

00:12:09.07
Adz
But you can't, a man that that has tissue paper for hamstrings is not with that size body as well.

00:12:17.10
Russell Gibson
Yeah, he's a machine.

00:12:18.27
Adz
Yeah, unfortunate. Unfortunate indeed.

00:12:21.88
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, so jam around at 575, buy, hold, or sell ad.

00:12:28.26
Adz
It's definitely not a sell. That man is going to the moon.

00:12:29.81
Russell Gibson
It's a buy.

00:12:31.73
Adz
It was a buy at 400. It was, yeah, where we should have been should have been on it a year ago when it was a year and a half ago. No, got to 350 in January at the start of this year.

00:12:43.76
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:12:45.19
Adz
It was a huge dip, but in the last six months, it's up

00:12:51.30
Russell Gibson
So even if you look at that point where it's up to, you know, six, seven hundred dollars and now it's at, you know, high fives. In my head, there's no reason why can't they get back to seven forty in the next couple of months. I don't see any reason for it not to.

00:13:07.62
Adz
I guess then that five to six range he, uh, if he's going to keep flying like he is in Memphis, do well as a result. I don't, I don't see it being outside that, that $700 getting up to Tatum levels.

00:13:18.29
Adz
Is that where we set the benchmark, right?

00:13:18.46
Russell Gibson
I got no, yeah, that's right. I got no, I got no problem with it being that $700 range.

00:13:20.55
Adz
Yeah.

00:13:23.70
Russell Gibson
Honestly, it's, it's totally fine.

00:13:24.12
Adz
Hmm. But I think Jarp has proven in these early stages of the season, how good he is when he's, um, when he's firing.

00:13:34.08
Russell Gibson
And super interesting. Actually, if you look at the old time data on that ad is not that much, well, it has been recently sub a thousand, but if you sort of look at the stats and obviously

00:13:46.74
Adz
Mmm.

00:13:47.67
Russell Gibson
Let's just sort of take out the, the plus 2000 and just sort of call it a thousand dollars, right?

00:13:51.36
Adz
The big peak. da Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:54.83
Russell Gibson
I feel like there's a really big chunk there where it has been in that thousand dollar mark. So for me in my head for that to get back to a thousand, I don't think that's going to be outrageous for that to happen.

00:14:00.52
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:04.58
Adz
Two years ago, it was $1,200.

00:14:04.99
Russell Gibson
There's a lot of excitement around this kid. Yeah. There's a, he's a very exciting guy. You know, I think he's a natural born leader, but you can see that team rallying around his energy and his, you know, his play.

00:14:18.58
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:14:20.77
Russell Gibson
So, you know, let's do one.

00:14:21.32
Adz
Agreed. Agreed. Jar Jar is in in bar in by mode.

00:14:25.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah, let's do run one really quick thing and we'll go to a break. Okay.

00:14:29.80
Adz
Sure.

00:14:29.88
Russell Gibson
So I think we have to talk about the Embiid fine. we We did touch on 76 before and their lack of success. I think this is just adding to the, I suppose the fire. So he set out a couple of games at the start of the year.

00:14:40.77
Russell Gibson
He made a declaration that he wasn't going to play back to backs at all this year. He was going to rest his body.

00:14:47.06
Adz
Yeah. I did.

00:14:48.45
Russell Gibson
he was fined $100,000 for that statement and then he got into an altercation with a reporter, which was reported on Twitter and all the rest of it. I didn't really pay too much about it. Apparently he pushed the guy.

00:15:05.02
Russell Gibson
and then he's now been suspended three games for that so that's just really you know making the 76ers life hard he also has to give up his pay too I suppose he gives it to the the NBA doesn't he so it's like a huge financial burden for him too you know do you think three games is reasonable do you think it's unreasonable like I

00:15:06.67
Adz
Oh my god.

00:15:18.57
Adz
here

00:15:22.66
Adz
that's um

00:15:30.20
Adz
That's... I think it sends a message.

00:15:34.55
Adz
Like it's it's it's a slap on the wrist, in like equivalent to him.

00:15:38.20
Russell Gibson
Really?

00:15:39.25
Adz
Well, it's three games, like, yeah, sure. For us losing, I don't know, a couple of million dollars might be somewhat significant. Joel Embiid probably doesn't give a shit.

00:15:52.33
Russell Gibson
The money not so much, but I think the game time, I think is a little bit surprising for me because like if the guys fight, yeah, if the guys fight, they might get say between five and eight games to push somebody

00:15:57.77
Adz
Being suspended for games.

00:16:04.60
Adz
three Three games is sending a very clear message. You say, well, it's like, I don't wanna go too far down it, but in the AFL, if you touch an umpire, that's huge.

00:16:11.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:16:16.48
Adz
That's worse than hitting someone in the jaw.

00:16:19.09
Russell Gibson
But a a news reporter is not an umpire.

00:16:22.97
Adz
But it's it's it's like the athletes getting into altercations with non-athletes, there's a physical discrepancy. And I think they're trying to protect the civilians, so to speak.

00:16:37.57
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I personally think that guy should just write a hit piece about him.

00:16:38.40
Adz
Because the person in the media might not be, yeah.

00:16:41.56
Russell Gibson
Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah.

00:16:43.80
Adz
But the the NBA need to send, it's not so much about what actually transpired, it's sending the message that you can't do that.

00:16:51.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah, sure.

00:16:52.16
Adz
and how serious they treat it.

00:16:52.29
Russell Gibson
And I think to your point, Joe Dumas, who was essentially the man who hands out the punishments, I think he's been very conservative.

00:17:00.20
Adz
Yeah.

00:17:01.18
Russell Gibson
and wants to produce an image of the and NBA that, you know, they're not thugs and fighting is not permitted and all that type of stuff. So that fits into your narrative that you've just said there.

00:17:06.96
Adz
Sure.

00:17:09.22
Russell Gibson
So, yeah.

00:17:09.70
Adz
Yeah, I just think i think they they have to be stern, they have to be stern with the way they draw a line here.

00:17:17.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:17:18.75
Adz
Because if you say if you give you send a message that it's okay, then what's gonna start happening? You know, Bronny James pushing the media at G-League games.

00:17:32.91
Russell Gibson
All righty. Hobby Hangout, 17th of November. It is literally one week away. So, Melbourne, get your tickets.

00:17:39.52
Adz
ah better You better have your tickets, come on.

00:17:41.89
Russell Gibson
We're going to be there. We've got stickers. We've got a nice little sign this year. We're going to have a traders box. We're going to be doing a live podcast. I want to be interviewing people this year. This is something I really want to do.

00:17:53.65
Russell Gibson
So, come and talk to us. We'll do like a little bit of a, you know, question and answering type thing. We can record it.

00:17:59.03
Adz
I've got a little, rit I've got a recorder.

00:17:59.19
Russell Gibson
We can edit it in.

00:18:00.63
Adz
I've got a recorder here. i

00:18:01.90
Russell Gibson
Beautiful. Adam's got a recorder. We're going to be set up. We've got a power cord sorted out. The guys from Hobby Hangout, they're going to do that for us this year. So get your tickets.

00:18:14.09
Russell Gibson
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00:18:24.24
Adz
Three weeks away.

00:18:25.28
Russell Gibson
The 1st of December. Now, I might just hang on, I'll have time out for a second. I'm just going to pause the recording. Sunday the 1st of December at the Sydney Roundhouse, again, get your tickets at the hobbyhangout.com.au. Workshops, trading zones, poker zones, live breaks, panel hosted by the one and only Matthew Payne. Matthew Payne, we are calling you out. Get onto the podcast. We have emailed you for an appearance.

00:18:55.16
Russell Gibson
We're going to publicly pressure you until you come on. Card fever, one-stop poker shop, DG collectibles, Harbor collectibles, TCG grading, something card strike, one nil cards. It goes on and on. Jake's breaks. Check it out, guys. Sydney, the hobby hangout on the 1st of December.

00:19:17.49
Russell Gibson
Adam, how are you feeling? Are you feeling well rested?

00:19:21.05
Adz
Always, always feeling well rested after a break.

00:19:24.33
Russell Gibson
What did you drink in your drink break?

00:19:26.83
Adz
Just good old fashioned water, H2O.

00:19:28.77
Russell Gibson
Oh, H2O. You need some high quality H2O, that's for sure.

00:19:33.71
Adz
We're in Melbourne, we've got the best H2O in the world.

00:19:38.00
Russell Gibson
I mean, we're gonna have to have something that's the best, right?

00:19:41.95
Russell Gibson
Alright, this next one's actually a serious one, so it is a genuine shout out to Greg Popovich. There's various rumours floating around at the moment of various, you know, different melodies that he's got.

00:19:55.97
Russell Gibson
We're not going to speculate on that.

00:19:57.76
Adz
no

00:19:57.82
Russell Gibson
What we are going to say is that he's currently away from the team. with an undisclosed health issue and we wish Pop nothing but the best.

00:20:01.22
Adz
No.

00:20:05.94
Russell Gibson
We hope he comes back sooner than later and um to a speedy recovery, Coach Pop. We we love you. I think that's probably the the main thing we wanted to say and I think um I can't actually remember basketball without Pop in it.

00:20:15.93
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:20.79
Adz
No, like, it wasn't prominent, but Greg Popovich is pretty

00:20:20.86
Russell Gibson
Do you?

00:20:26.04
Russell Gibson
Who was the coach before pop in the Spurs? That is a great trivia question.

00:20:33.28
Adz
Yep, no idea.

00:20:34.87
Russell Gibson
Was it, um he also coached the Orlando Magic to the finals. His name was Brian.

00:20:41.73
Adz
calbra um No, i would I wouldn't have the slightest.

00:20:45.03
Russell Gibson
Oh man. Anyway.

00:20:48.63
Adz
i all ah It's synonymous. If you say go Spurs go, all I think is Greg Popovich.

00:20:50.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:20:54.00
Russell Gibson
That's it.

00:20:54.83
Adz
it Like he defined San Antonio basketball for for more than two decades, three decades.

00:21:02.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah, it's insane, honestly.

00:21:04.62
Adz
It's, yeah, it's it's insane.

00:21:08.08
Russell Gibson
Bob Hill, I was...

00:21:10.33
Adz
Bob Hill?

00:21:11.92
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that was who it was.

00:21:12.95
Adz
Bob Hill.

00:21:15.66
Russell Gibson
Anyway.

00:21:15.75
Adz
I reckon they can get him back just to fill in for a little bit, well.

00:21:20.37
Russell Gibson
All right, now I've been practicing this off the air, so bear with me, peeps. Zachary Reeserje is the Atlanta Hawks number one pick, and due to fortuitous luck, if you want to call it that, he's been playing a lot. They've got a lot of injuries on their roster at the moment, and he is being absolutely balling. He's been playing quite well with Jalen Johnson.

00:21:45.89
Russell Gibson
And I'm really, really enjoying watching this kid play. I think the Hawks are a sort of a...

00:21:50.41
Adz
Yeah, ah it had a shocking he had a shocking couple of start games to start, but yeah, he's definitely, he's a rookie.

00:21:54.55
Russell Gibson
Yeah, he did. He did. But that's, you know, I think that's, yeah, I think that's part of the show. So he's been playing really well. He had a 33 point game against the Knicks the other day, 11 from 18, six of 10 from three, five from nine from the free throw line, seven rebounds, three assists, two blocks, three steals.

00:22:12.72
Russell Gibson
Look, I think you need these, you know, these things every now and then to sort of come along and happen because I think if the number one pick is an absolute stinker and it's going into new product, I think that's, you know, that's a real problem, I think, for people.

00:22:27.10
Russell Gibson
So if you are

00:22:27.51
Adz
Yeah, that's great.

00:22:30.88
Russell Gibson
On the podcast formats, every week I put all the links from the show into the description. So you can see one of them there, which is his highlights onto that. Definitely worth a, you know, a two minute watch.

00:22:40.99
Adz
yeah

00:22:41.48
Russell Gibson
He's, he's absolutely out there bawling. So definitely one to put on your watch list. I think in terms of pricing though, it's not really something you would automatically begin to speculate on just because of the normal rule of thumb is that when everything first comes out, it's, it's really high on him being the number one pick.

00:22:53.85
Adz
and

00:22:56.51
Russell Gibson
I think that's going to be pretty tricky.

00:22:58.62
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:59.74
Russell Gibson
On the flip side of that, if you do want to speculate against the grain, And you think that this year's rookie class is absolute dog turds and you want to look somewhere else.

00:23:09.93
Adz
no

00:23:10.25
Russell Gibson
We were talking about this off the air. You can look no further than the 2021 draft where these guys are now three years in. They're very well established. And actually looking back at this draft, we again, we're talking about this off the air.

00:23:25.17
Russell Gibson
It's looking like a really awesome draft class. We've got Cade Cunningham, Jaylen Green, Eben Mobley, Scotty Barnes. Jaylen Suggs, Josh Giddy, Kaminga, Franz Wagner. While Davion Mitchell's not playing that well, but you know, further down the list, Moses Moody, you've got Shen Goon, Troy Murphy, who I love.

00:23:42.62
Russell Gibson
Jaylen Johnson, who I again love, he went at 20. Like, there's a lot of talent there. I think that's actually, yeah.

00:23:46.79
Adz
There is a, there's a lot there. Um, uh, Santi, uh, uh, Aldama playing well for the grid at the moment.

00:23:51.72
Russell Gibson
Yep. I think he's a bit of a, more of a deep cut sort of prospect, but at the same time, yeah, he's, yeah, Cam Thomas is, is selling really well again.

00:23:53.64
Adz
Yeah. And Thomas. Oh, for sure. But then you didn't have got cam Thomas. Yeah.

00:24:03.16
Russell Gibson
He's bounced back after his dip off.

00:24:04.11
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:24:05.25
Russell Gibson
So how we came onto this segment though, so on the Bill Simmons podcast on the 5th of November, and I'm quoting Simmons directly from this, If we're going to do this draft again, Jalen Suggs will be third because he's that good.

00:24:18.12
Russell Gibson
He's been that important to the team. he's that un He's that unusual as a player, could be the third best player on a title team. I think he could. So I think this is the perfect time to sit back and say, okay, you know, we've got somebody here who is super high on him.

00:24:30.69
Adz
Hmm.

00:24:34.24
Russell Gibson
Is this a reasonable thing to say? And does it translate to the hobby? He's not on card letter, so it does make it a little bit difficult to find statistics on, but I did find some really nice sell prices for him.

00:24:47.15
Russell Gibson
So very recently, this is on the 7th of November, a silver PSA 10 sold for 129 USD. Look, I think for someone of that stature and also, I feel like that sort of prism here was a little bit crappy.

00:25:02.22
Russell Gibson
So to get a silver 10 out of it, that's actually really good.

00:25:05.54
Adz
Mmm.

00:25:05.90
Russell Gibson
Again, for that price, I think that's totally fine. and um Going down the line a little bit, red, white, and blue for $23. I think that's a home run. We've got a rookie signature there for $55. Again, that's Prism. We've got a base there. Let's just stay away from that. I think when you sort of lower end prospecting, I think it's okay just to move away from that. 50 USD, another silver for 99. Going to something a little bit different. We've got the Contenders Optic Rookie for $27. Again, that's PSA 10.

00:25:35.33
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:36.70
Russell Gibson
look I've got no problem with him at that price and and I do agree with what Simmons is talking about I think and particularly you know we've talked on the show how much upside I think the magic we've got and it actually makes sense to me that he could be the third best player but if you sort of take a step back from that is he actually the third best player and the reason why Simmons loves him is is because of his defensive potential so then do you sort of again take another step back and say well who are the guards historically that have been high-end defensive talents and then can you then comp to that so for example the one that comes to my head is Gary Payton

00:25:52.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:14.99
Russell Gibson
I don't really think that Gary Payton, you know, cost that much money to buy into.

00:26:21.23
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:21.81
Russell Gibson
And, you know, like speculating on Suggs, is that such a good idea, considering that? Do you know where I'm sort of going with this? Like, you know, what's what's the highest potential that Suggs could get to?

00:26:34.00
Adz
Well, if you're referring to someone that can be the third best player on a team, really not going to be in the spotlight.

00:26:34.22
Russell Gibson
Like, is he?

00:26:37.37
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:39.70
Adz
That's the, that's the, the where is their price?

00:26:42.37
Russell Gibson
That's right. Yeah. And so that's why I'm kind of like, well, yeah.

00:26:43.76
Adz
But we have enough problem. We have enough problems with second strings, let alone a third.

00:26:48.93
Russell Gibson
So I just think that, you know you know, I think that if you're buying into this kid, look, I've got no problem with it. But I suppose where I'm going to is, is like, what's the ceiling on this guy? yet I don't think it's going to be anything like that sort of crazy.

00:27:00.98
Russell Gibson
And actually, like, just

00:27:02.47
Adz
Well, if you're peacing Orlando, who who are you who you chasing? Obviously, it's it's not sucks, it's Paolo.

00:27:09.21
Russell Gibson
I think it's power and then probably second would be Wagner. And I think if we're being realistic about this, like, I feel like Wagner is really like the key piece there.

00:27:12.54
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:16.86
Russell Gibson
And, you know, the other sort of funny thing about the magical, I was actually thinking about this is that let's just say you go, okay, we've got our number one, that's Ben Chirro. We've got our number three, that's Suggs. Do you take, say, two or three players and a pick or even two picks, get rid of Wagner and then bring in someone else to be your designated number two?

00:27:36.33
Russell Gibson
And then you go, okay, right.

00:27:36.72
Adz
and

00:27:38.12
Russell Gibson
We've got a number two. So you bring in Brandon Ingram to be a number two.

00:27:39.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:43.72
Adz
Ninja, that's a very interesting view.

00:27:43.96
Russell Gibson
Do you know what I mean? And then you say, yeah.

00:27:45.95
Adz
Yeah. I like that.

00:27:47.67
Russell Gibson
So, you know, we're definitely segued away from the segment here, but that's sort of something that came into my head on that. So I'm not all aboard with Simmons translation from real life into hobby, but that's okay.

00:27:59.40
Russell Gibson
You know, it's not Simmons' fault on that.

00:28:00.15
Adz
Yeah. It's fun.

00:28:01.90
Russell Gibson
What I did just find though, Gary Payton, now this is really interesting, 2016 studio downtown, Gary Payton raw, this sold for 250. We talk about cases all the time and how important they are.

00:28:12.86
Russell Gibson
I think that's an absolute home run to purchase.

00:28:15.54
Adz
Yeah, that's great.

00:28:15.82
Russell Gibson
Also, I kind of feel like Gary Payton's kind of got like an underground following to where you could sort of just squirrel these cards away. I think they do really well.

00:28:23.58
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:28:26.97
Russell Gibson
2014 Excalibur. Look, I've never seen either of these cards. Just let me know if you've seen them. This sold for 1,200, but that's sold in 2021.

00:28:37.18
Adz
Really?

00:28:38.39
Russell Gibson
Like I have never seen one of these cards.

00:28:43.12
Adz
Yeah, that.

00:28:43.32
Russell Gibson
I actually think that's a much better buy than anything that Suggs is going to come out with.

00:28:48.58
Adz
Yep.

00:28:52.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:28:55.78
Russell Gibson
I know it's, yeah, I know it's a little bit unfair to comp him straight to Peyton, but that I think that's realistically, where is this going to go?

00:29:03.26
Adz
ah that's That's my question, right? Like what what could they possibly... Yeah, no, all right.

00:29:12.70
Russell Gibson
All right. If we were going to redraft the 2021 draft, who is the one that you would zero in on that would be moving up the border? Just give us one or two minutes and we'll go to our next break.

00:29:23.69
Adz
Moving moving moving up the board based on current before who goes up.

00:29:26.92
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so who do you like out of this draft? ye Yeah.

00:29:30.57
Adz
Um, I think I i still all my question would would have been do we keep Kate at the top and I would say yes.

00:29:37.88
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:39.22
Adz
um Oh Who have we got All the ah Looking at that list You're gonna hate what I have to say, but I think Josh Giddy drops.

00:29:54.47
Russell Gibson
Okay. Who do you move ahead of Giddy?

00:29:59.20
Adz
Well, Kaminga's actually been playing quite well. Wagner's, we've just we've just mentioned as being the number two to Suggs, right?

00:30:04.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:30:11.00
Adz
So do you move? Do you leapfrog ah Wagner above?

00:30:13.90
Russell Gibson
Mm hmm.

00:30:17.01
Adz
um

00:30:17.70
Russell Gibson
Or even Shin goon, you could move him up with.

00:30:19.75
Adz
I was gonna say Shingoon's the big one there that I would but that i would have inside the top 10.

00:30:22.30
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:30:28.30
Russell Gibson
So I think for me, yeah, he definitely moves up a couple of spots from that.

00:30:28.95
Adz
And then Camp Thomas.

00:30:33.35
Adz
For sure.

00:30:35.31
Russell Gibson
So I think for me, I would put Jaylen Green down and I'm probably going to die on this. ah Look, you guys know how much I love Kate already, so I don't think there's any hiding from that, but Scotty Barnes, honestly, I think that

00:30:47.97
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:48.11
Russell Gibson
You know, I'm probably going to die on this island and I'm going to look terrible for saying this, but I actually really love his all round game. And I think there's not that many people in the league with his body type and his athleticism. And I think that orbital injury was pretty unlucky.

00:31:01.02
Russell Gibson
I don't think it's like an MB or a Zion thing with this kid where he's going to be injury prone. Like that's just shit bad luck.

00:31:05.56
Adz
Yeah, that's true.

00:31:06.51
Russell Gibson
You know? Yeah.

00:31:07.44
Adz
That's true.

00:31:08.90
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:31:08.91
Adz
Yeah.

00:31:10.01
Russell Gibson
Let's go to a break mate and then we'll come back and we'll talk some Kate Cunningham. That's what's up next in the list, which is perfect timing for our.

00:31:15.74
Adz
Perfect timing.

00:31:17.89
Russell Gibson
2021 very, very quick draft recap. Alrighty, US Sports Cards Australia are going to be with us for at least the next 10 months or so, Adam. So thank you so much to Team US Sports Cards Australia, ussportscardsaustralia.com.au. If you go there, you will find sports breaks, singles categories, protection for sale, hobby boxes for sale, sports memorabilia. Ross is also selling toys at the moment.

00:31:47.01
Russell Gibson
I think he's got some water pistols. It's coming into summer.

00:31:49.70
Adz
to lead up, it's almost Christmas.

00:31:51.86
Russell Gibson
and' so That's right. What a great Christmas present. A nice little water pistol to pretty much annoy everybody at your Christmas party. Annoy those uncles that you hate. That's the perfect thing to do.

00:32:03.36
Russell Gibson
ah Lithium battery, USB charger. How much water does it hold? That's probably the real question, isn't it? I've got no idea. Enough to annoy your auntie and your uncle.

00:32:12.58
Adz
ah That is the main thing.

00:32:14.95
Russell Gibson
That's the main thing. Now, what Ross has been spending a lot of time working on, and I know he's been investing a lot of time into this, is check out My Cards Australia. Basically, the best way to think about this is, it's like a commcee, but in Australia. So in commcee, you send all your cards over to them.

00:32:34.71
Russell Gibson
They hold them in a consignment type service. People then go onto the website, purchase the cards. Ross puts all the cards in together in one tiny little bundle and posts them out. And then the money goes into your account. It's literally as simple as that.

00:32:50.16
Adz
Pretty simple.

00:32:51.11
Russell Gibson
He's building it up. You know, he's got 3000 cards on that moment. He's got thousands more cards, you know, ready to to go in. So definitely check that out, guys. You will not be disappointed with the cards that he's got on there. So again, thank you so much US Sports Cards Australia for your ongoing support.

00:33:14.49
Russell Gibson
And we are back. Adam, how are you doing, buddy?

00:33:17.30
Adz
I'm doing great. I'm doing fantastic. Very refreshed.

00:33:21.95
Russell Gibson
I think we should give a shout out at this point in time to centralcoastradio.com. We are currently on there three days a week. So if you go to centralcoastradio dot.com, you will hear us Tuesday night at 11 p.m., Thursday at 10 a.m., and Saturday at 3 a.m. Now, Adam, our Tuesday slot the other week did gangbusters.

00:33:47.64
Adz
Oh, really?

00:33:48.40
Russell Gibson
In fact, I might even say we were the top of the day and that was at 11 p.m. at night. So late night podcasts, late night breaks used to be a thing and late night podcasts are now a thing too where people want to tune in and listen to some NBA and some tunes at the same time.

00:33:54.75
Adz
Feature.

00:34:01.91
Adz
it

00:34:05.13
Russell Gibson
So thank you supporters at Central Coast Radio.

00:34:05.61
Adz
Makes sense. Makes a lot of sense.

00:34:08.55
Russell Gibson
We we definitely appreciate it. so Cade Cunningham, the last three games has produced three triple doubles in a row. I think that warrants for us, Adam, to do a bit of a price check.

00:34:21.21
Adz
We're checking in on Cade.

00:34:24.09
Russell Gibson
And I kind of feel like I've been talking about Cade so much. So it's about time that he's played three good games because it's starting to make me look like a bit of a goose that I'd keep following this guy.

00:34:33.93
Adz
Oh look, I've been, um I'm glad you've stayed high on him.

00:34:40.66
Russell Gibson
I just, when I watch him play, I'm just like, he's good, you know?

00:34:40.80
Adz
lot of people A lot of people would would jump off the, but would be jumping off, but it seems like

00:34:46.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:34:50.86
Adz
People, but things might be on the on the on the rise.

00:34:53.89
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so look, looking at the last three months, he's up 16%, which actually makes sense. You know, the season's back again, he's playing well.

00:35:00.44
Adz
But over the last, well over the last six months, he's up

00:35:00.75
Russell Gibson
it was

00:35:03.90
Russell Gibson
Yeah, right. That's insane. So if you're picking him up for that sort of $200 mark, that's a really good buy. That's a really good buy.

00:35:15.13
Adz
yeah i like um I like Katie's bet. He's gone through a lot as far as the injuries have gone. I do think he's been challenged as far as playing for Detroit, it's difficult, right?

00:35:29.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:35:31.55
Adz
They they they have been the cellar dwellers. um At the moment, they're sitting in the middle of the pack of a very soft looking Eastern Conference, but they're still in the middle of the pack.

00:35:37.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:35:42.11
Adz
They've got multiple wins on the board. They've won three, three or four, three games.

00:35:45.17
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:35:47.16
Adz
so I mean, some big numbers from Cade, some positive signs, might have a competitive Detroit down the track. Who knows?

00:35:55.56
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:35:57.16
Adz
I think that's a key.

00:35:57.48
Russell Gibson
So, so I think there's a fair bit going on in this space with the Pistons. I think that they've been bad for a couple of years.

00:36:03.87
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:36:05.00
Russell Gibson
And then I think they've had a lot of front office turnover and turmoil. And I think that it's fair to say that the Monty Williams experiment was a failure.

00:36:14.32
Adz
Sure.

00:36:15.64
Russell Gibson
And sort of my observation is I actually don't think JB Bigger stuff is that good of a head coach. But the irony is he's so much better than Monty that you can already see the improvement already.

00:36:26.04
Adz
Hmm.

00:36:28.80
Russell Gibson
Like they're a lot more organized. They're actually now like a pretty tough team to sort of go up against. Like it's not just like, okay, we're playing the Pistons this week. This is an easy win. Like you actually have to go out and earn it against these guys.

00:36:40.69
Russell Gibson
So I think, you know, that to me is kind of a big deal. And I think like what you said, like it's, it's right. Like they're more than middle of the pack though. There's six at the moment.

00:36:51.91
Russell Gibson
And then you can say, oh okay, well they really could be ninth. Like, and that is like, that's true, but at the same time, you know, yeah.

00:36:56.00
Adz
That's true.

00:36:58.90
Adz
I think it's great. It's good to see the young core start to show some signs.

00:37:03.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. Look, I think when you've got someone like Kate to build around, that definitely makes things easier. And that whole sort of thing of, you know, taking three years to put a ah roster together, like that actually makes sense.

00:37:17.90
Russell Gibson
Doesn't it really? Like it still takes time, you know, to do it. The main thing that the Pistons focused on in the off season was just putting shooting around them. So Malik Beasley came in. That was the big thing. Tim Hardaway Jr.

00:37:29.62
Russell Gibson
Tobias Harris is is a pro.

00:37:30.25
Adz
me

00:37:31.27
Russell Gibson
I think that's maybe we're looking past that. And then the other thing too, is Jaden Ivy is not the Jaden Ivy that we saw last year.

00:37:35.06
Adz
What?

00:37:38.88
Russell Gibson
I think that's, maybe that's the best way to summarize this team, isn't it?

00:37:44.74
Adz
and True.

00:37:46.52
Russell Gibson
Like better coach.

00:37:47.38
Adz
True. So it's very interesting. Changing coach, Cades in that window, right? I just want to put this to you. Cades in that year three,

00:37:56.32
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:37:56.79
Adz
window where you go from, you take your step.

00:37:57.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah, for sure.

00:38:00.44
Russell Gibson
You, you've worked things out.

00:38:00.60
Adz
This is the superstar, yeah, the step up to star slash superstar is projected from that three to five year mark.

00:38:01.84
Russell Gibson
You've taken your hits. Yeah.

00:38:06.10
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:38:09.94
Adz
And if you start showing it in year three, this is a positive thing.

00:38:13.20
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:38:13.76
Adz
Can I say that Jaylen Duren and Jayden Ivey come out of nick of the following year's class? So they're steps next year.

00:38:23.05
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:38:24.64
Adz
Detroit could be competitive.

00:38:26.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think IV is gonna be really interesting to watch because

00:38:32.38
Russell Gibson
You know, when he came out, there was the Jamaran comparison. And I think that he could actually be a sneaky guy to follow hobby wise because no one cares about the Pistons, no one's watching them.

00:38:45.15
Russell Gibson
And then the East is so soft that next year, you know, why can't they make the playoffs?

00:38:47.69
Adz
a

00:38:52.03
Russell Gibson
I think this year you have to be extremely optimistic to say, Oh yeah, like the Pistons going to make the p playoffs.

00:38:53.80
Adz
Yep.

00:38:56.87
Russell Gibson
I think that's a bit like outlandish. And actually my feeling about Kate is that this year, I think it's look, if you buy them this year, I think that's fine.

00:39:02.55
Adz
Hmm.

00:39:05.13
Russell Gibson
But I would say be be prepared to put up with a bit of pain. I think in the next 12 months, this could be a $600 card. That's my gut feeling.

00:39:13.36
Adz
Wow.

00:39:14.13
Russell Gibson
But I think, you know, realistically, the the question for me is when is the right time to buy Kade? So, yeah.

00:39:21.22
Adz
Do you think things are starting that the ball starting to roll, so to speak?

00:39:25.33
Russell Gibson
Oh, this is very optimistic. Look, this is very, very good. 100%. Like I'm feeling fantastic about this.

00:39:30.81
Adz
Like I'm looking at Kate at the moment and and I'm looking at the last six months and I'm like, it's going up last three, still.

00:39:30.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:39:36.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:38.40
Adz
Look, you might be getting a bargain at that $300 price point.

00:39:41.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:39:43.78
Adz
Especially if you keep putting up these numbers, you're right. And it's it's not an insane pop count either. 300, quite reasonable.

00:39:48.86
Russell Gibson
No, it's not. Look, i'm I'm pretty happy we've had Cade's training. I've sort of picked up a couple along the way that have been pretty cheap. So I'm sort of at the point now where I'm like, I'm not really fussed anymore.

00:40:00.59
Russell Gibson
Do you know what I mean? Like, if it goes back down again, I'm probably gonna, you know, just about break, even if it keeps going up, you know, I think that's fantastic.

00:40:01.56
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:07.25
Russell Gibson
But, you know, I still think there's a fair bit of room, like, in this card. I don't see that this is the top. So I'm very excited about this, actually. All righty.

00:40:17.32
Adz
Very interesting. Can I make a point of note just on Kate Cunningham?

00:40:21.29
Russell Gibson
Of course you can, mate.

00:40:22.49
Adz
Right, so I'm looking at the the population report.

00:40:28.42
Adz
The pop the total population of graded cards is 1746. Total gems is only 319.

00:40:36.85
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think it was pretty tricky that year with some of the quality control stuff.

00:40:39.32
Adz
Yeah, it gems at an 18 and a half percent rate. So, woo.

00:40:42.79
Russell Gibson
Yeah, honestly, I think that year was really tricky. Yeah.

00:40:46.99
Adz
So getting a 10.

00:40:51.38
Adz
Yes, just food for thought.

00:40:52.09
Russell Gibson
Cause did I, did I tell you, I sent a whole bunch of cards off from that draft year and some of the stuff I got back was like six and seven and eight. Like it was, yeah it was really bad.

00:41:01.19
Adz
Wow. I've got a K, I've got a blue K that I want to get graded, but I'm i'm concerned about the centering.

00:41:06.58
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:41:10.47
Adz
It's the only thing I'm concerned about.

00:41:12.20
Russell Gibson
I think you just don't send it in honestly. I think that year was really bad.

00:41:17.39
Adz
true But if it was a 10.

00:41:17.42
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:41:20.49
Russell Gibson
All right, just to mess with you, I'm just going to mix this up a little bit. So select WNBA has dropped. So was select WNBA origins. And if you aren't familiar with this product, that is totally fine.

00:41:33.42
Russell Gibson
I think the key point to mention here is basically it's the first look at Kate and Clark in a pro uniform. Her autographs are live in it so you know there's a lot of people have been buying into WNBA breaks even if you could not care less about it like that's how much sort of high-end speculation is going into it.

00:41:39.63
Adz
ahha Really?

00:41:52.54
Russell Gibson
It's a little bit hard to comp the box prices directly, but my gut feeling is the prices have probably moved about double to triple the price in terms of sealed box prices and breaks and stuff like that.

00:42:05.49
Russell Gibson
And Prism hasn't even come out yet. So I think when Prism comes out, people are going to go absolutely, you know, not so for it.

00:42:11.50
Adz
Mmm.

00:42:11.70
Russell Gibson
so Look, I think the select is really, really nice. the The patches look really good. Unfortunately, they're not game worn, so that's definitely where Panini's dropped the ball.

00:42:22.38
Adz
Yep.

00:42:23.14
Russell Gibson
However, they've introduced this new horizontal autograph, which has got two pictures of like one sort of a portrait picture and then one an action shot.

00:42:32.82
Adz
Okay.

00:42:33.28
Russell Gibson
And WNBA has done this a few times where it's almost like they use that product to sort of experiment with and then the good stuff that they put into Pro. So the best example for me is the silver cracked ice.

00:42:41.02
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:44.62
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:44.75
Russell Gibson
So that was first in WNBA and that was there for like two years and they rolled it across to and NBA.

00:42:47.24
Adz
Really.

00:42:49.46
Russell Gibson
And that's one of my favorite parallels is something about it. Look, it's not it's not actually not that great, but I just really like it.

00:42:53.69
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:56.41
Russell Gibson
So that particular autograph though, I'm very high on that.

00:42:58.21
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:59.65
Russell Gibson
I think in terms of a piece that you sort of just chuck onto your desk and you have it sitting on a little stand and you look at it and you know what I mean like I think it's that type of card like it's not super valuable but it looks really good they've got all the normal select stuff in it so you know they've got the copper in it they've got the tie dye all that type of stuff but they also have a little twist again which is very wmba they've got fast break in it too so there's fast break blue

00:43:11.31
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:28.20
Adz
Okay.

00:43:28.95
Russell Gibson
And they've also numbered the Enfuegos, which in pro ah so pro in men's, I don't believe that they do do that. So that's again, like a nice little twist for that product there. so look Do you buy a box?

00:43:43.02
Russell Gibson
Do you go into breaks? Or do you just weigh down and buy singles? Look, it depends what your risk profile is, like realistically.

00:43:48.63
Adz
to get your heightened clocks?

00:43:52.43
Adz
Yeah, that's true.

00:43:52.81
Russell Gibson
But I think if you're trying to get, but even like some of the angel Reese and Cameron bring stuff, that stuff's been selling quite high. So you can't actually just sort of say, well, no, I'll just like hang out and get singles because it's the equation might not be quite there.

00:44:00.99
Adz
Yeah, you're you're very yeah very true.

00:44:07.41
Russell Gibson
But Look, I think buying into brakes a little bit is okay on this, you know, buying a little bit of sealed is okay too, you know, I i think don't think it's a problem. I think it really does come back to just getting a little bit of mix on it.

00:44:18.98
Russell Gibson
I don't think there's any real, you know, right answer on this to be perfectly honest, but it's high.

00:44:22.91
Adz
yeah

00:44:24.00
Russell Gibson
It's definitely much higher than what we're used to. So I think that's probably where my hesitation is a little bit, whereas

00:44:29.18
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:44:29.99
Russell Gibson
WNBA kind of the fun thing used to be was, you know, it didn't really cost you a kidney to get a hobby box. It didn't cost you, you know, that much to sort of get a couple of blasters and rip them.

00:44:37.79
Adz
You could you have play with the set and yeah.

00:44:39.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah, whatever. It was fine, you know, so.

00:44:42.50
Adz
It does make it, it makes it difficult when the, when the pro entry prices go is going up and up though.

00:44:47.55
Russell Gibson
It's almost the same price as NBA, man, like that's sort of that's quite confronting.

00:44:49.79
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:44:52.52
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, our friends at CardLadder, Shay Giljus Alexander, SGA, 2018 Fastbreak Pink, numbered to 50, population on this is 11 at PSA 10.

00:45:07.25
Russell Gibson
This is spiking and spiking hard. This sold for $1,999.99. Adam, buy, hold or sell this bad boy at that price.

00:45:18.86
Adz
Bye.

00:45:19.54
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:45:21.27
Adz
I don't know, I feel like this kid might be winning an MVP this year.

00:45:24.51
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:45:25.42
Adz
I feel like he's, oh.

00:45:28.42
Adz
It's the fast break. Is it really, it's $2000 card.

00:45:33.80
Adz
Yeah, still. I reckon he could be a big bye.

00:45:36.89
Russell Gibson
So. If I was this person buying it, I feel like this is the maths that they've done. They're like, right, I could buy a silver, but there's the population on them is much higher.

00:45:46.14
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:45:46.19
Russell Gibson
I could buy this card, which is the pink, which is not really that desired. However, there's 50 of them and the pop on this is 11. Like the maths in my head makes 100% sense.

00:45:55.00
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.

00:45:58.40
Russell Gibson
I just don't really think the pink is like that popular, but at the same time,

00:46:03.32
Adz
Fast break's not popular, pink stump pop pink to fifth is not popular.

00:46:05.23
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but still like it's, it's a big dog.

00:46:08.67
Adz
Yeah, you're right.

00:46:09.54
Russell Gibson
I think the risk is, you know, is worth like the, the juices there, I think. So that's kind of a squeeze.

00:46:13.35
Adz
The juice the juice is worth the squeeze.

00:46:16.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:46:18.63
Russell Gibson
I feel like tonight's show is going really quickly. Is it just me?

00:46:22.67
Adz
Must be. just We're just flying through it because we're the consummate professionals.

00:46:23.55
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:46:26.80
Russell Gibson
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00:47:17.72
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00:47:48.51
Russell Gibson
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00:48:14.42
Russell Gibson
However, old offensive stats for Dyson Daniels, 45 deflections first in the NBA, 17 steals second in the NBA and 5 total blocks, which ties him six for guards. If you watch him out there, he's just all over people. I actually think he's the perfect backcourt partner for Trey. He doesn't need the ball. He's happy just to defend his arse off out there. He doesn't care about

00:48:42.75
Russell Gibson
How many shots he gets, you know, what a fantastic pickup for the Hawks this offseason.

00:48:42.83
Adz
yeah true yeah

00:48:52.08
Adz
Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky hawks.

00:48:55.84
Russell Gibson
But still not very good Hawks. So, you know, and also they traded Luca for Trae Young. We can't really give them too many flowers. Can we?

00:49:05.47
Adz
I don't know, they currently still got the same number of championships. can we do we I need to go on this trigger a alert.

00:49:12.24
Russell Gibson
Why did I even like, why did I even try and set you up?

00:49:16.79
Adz
Do you know why we don't need to talk about Luca Dontich at the moment? Because he's not really all that important in the in the context of exciting stuff happening in the league right now.

00:49:26.32
Russell Gibson
Okay. Well, next week we definitely won't be talking about Zion and Embiid. So why don't we talk about Luca first thing next week. We haven't spoken about the Don for a while.

00:49:37.17
Adz
Fair enough.

00:49:37.81
Russell Gibson
All right. Thanks. ed You've helped me get the list started for next week.

00:49:41.14
Adz
Great. Put Luca right at the top. Talk for about 10 minutes, I'll be 10 minutes late.

00:49:44.48
Russell Gibson
This, fine. This next one is from Sports Card Invest and MBA dot.downtown on Instagram. Five most expensive MBA card sales swipe to see so I'm going to swipe. Alrighty. Number one, Steph Curry at 5.9 million. He's vertical NTRPA, Logerman, LeBron James at $5,200,000. The, oh God, this is so small, the upper deck exquisite.

00:50:17.57
Russell Gibson
I literally need a magnifying glass to read this. Now this is a bit tricky the next one because Luca is here twice even though it's a one-of-one. So the National Treasures Logoman one-of-one 4.6 million and then again at 3.12 and then finally we get a Jordan at 4.6 million.

00:50:25.99
Adz
That's odd.

00:50:36.05
Russell Gibson
The Upper Deck Ultimate Collection signed Logoman one-of-one

00:50:37.50
Adz
There we go.

00:50:44.87
Russell Gibson
Look, I think, I think it's good to actually talk about this every now and then because, you know, we do talk about cheaper cards. We do talk about the sort of, you know, the hundred dollar, the thousand dollar cards. I think to talk about the tippy top, that's kind of fun every now and again too.

00:50:59.81
Adz
It is a little bit funny and and i'm i'm glad I'm glad Luca appears here twice with the same card.

00:51:07.99
Russell Gibson
So my understanding is actually that's been sold three times.

00:51:10.01
Adz
It has, it has, but it didn't make the top five in the third time.

00:51:14.35
Russell Gibson
And there's some speculation that the person who sold it the first time then bought it back once it dipped down in price.

00:51:23.02
Adz
he's He's the person that bought it first, bought it in the third time.

00:51:26.04
Russell Gibson
So the person who owned it first sold it and then bought it back after it dipped.

00:51:28.80
Adz
I sold it and then bought it back, bought it back at the 1.1 of a million.

00:51:31.59
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:51:34.74
Adz
Was it a third?

00:51:35.40
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Like the cheaper price. Yeah.

00:51:36.75
Adz
Yeah, the even cheaper. So sold it for 4.6 million and then bought it back.

00:51:38.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:51:46.17
Adz
Wow.

00:51:48.21
Russell Gibson
Anyway, some people are playing chess and we're just like playing checkers, you know.

00:51:51.65
Adz
it's It's pretty funny.

00:51:51.80
Russell Gibson
and um All right. So the obvious question here to ask is, which card do you think you would get? Which card do you think should be taken off the list?

00:52:03.76
Adz
I think the duplicate Luca I Was gonna say I was gonna say take Luca off the list, which is also my opinion But the duplicate shouldn't be there.

00:52:06.59
Russell Gibson
Just take it off.

00:52:13.41
Adz
I think it should be do not I mean?

00:52:15.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:52:16.82
Adz
Like that like the four point six million dollar sale gets rid of the three three point one Or vice versa right most recent sale.

00:52:22.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it would be more interesting if those five cards definitely.

00:52:25.76
Adz
Yeah and five different cards.

00:52:26.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:52:27.80
Adz
Interestingly intro photo has Kobe on there as the fifth player and

00:52:32.14
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:52:33.78
Adz
Um, I feel like honestly, though, no, and and this is not me ragging on Luca, like I normally do.

00:52:35.92
Russell Gibson
I think that's just to get people's attention.

00:52:43.33
Adz
Um, there'll be plenty of time for that at other, yeah, and at other points, but he is the one that doesn't fit into this picture.

00:52:45.89
Russell Gibson
Next week. Yeah. Yeah.

00:52:51.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I agree

00:52:52.89
Adz
Steph Curry is revolutionized basketball. LeBron James and Michael Jordan are debated as the greatest of all time. Luca Doncic doesn't stand on that mountain yet. I say yeah, he's got the he's got plenty of time, but he doesn't.

00:53:06.47
Adz
He doesn't hold a candle to those three.

00:53:09.10
Russell Gibson
not even to Steph Curry, though.

00:53:10.65
Adz
Correct. like but step Steph Curry is, he's next in line for that mountain. Do you know what I mean? Like he's chiseling his his face into the Mount Rushmore of basketball greats.

00:53:18.51
Russell Gibson
He's facing to the mountain. Definitely.

00:53:23.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:24.70
Adz
Look, I think a Kobe should be up there. Maybe. um

00:53:28.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:30.78
Adz
and then maybe someone from another age, but I don't know if there are older players that... Oh wait, i know I know what card is on should be on there because it now is one.

00:53:42.44
Adz
It's what it's worth. The Wilt.

00:53:44.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:46.01
Adz
The PSA 10 Wilt Chamberlain.

00:53:46.70
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:53:49.34
Adz
And then some random one-of-one Kobe.

00:53:51.74
Russell Gibson
But what did that sell for?

00:53:51.78
Adz
Take the Lucas out.

00:53:52.94
Russell Gibson
Wasn't that?

00:53:53.52
Adz
That was 1.7 million, but when it got, it hasn't been sold since the guy changed it over to PSA.

00:53:58.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:59.51
Adz
It's a $5 million dollars card in my eyes anyway.

00:54:01.93
Russell Gibson
I think there's a, there's a, like a very long way to go for it between three and one though. Like there might be say 20 other cards in between that and the wheel though.

00:54:11.47
Adz
I reckon the Wilt is at number three, since it, because it was sold for 1.7 as an SGC10.

00:54:19.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:54:20.31
Adz
As a PSA10, I think it's a $5 million dollars card and it it belongs in number three.

00:54:27.15
Adz
And then maybe a $4.5 million dollars card at number five and we bumped the Jordan up just to give a bit of respect to the goat.

00:54:32.72
Russell Gibson
So for me, the really interesting takeaway from this is that Jordan isn't number one, because When you think about basketball, when you think about the hobby, like the one person who was dominated, you know, basically our entire lives is, is Jordan.

00:54:42.61
Adz
Mmm.

00:54:47.00
Russell Gibson
And particularly if you think about who was the most liquid player, who has got the most cards graded, you know, blah, blah, blah, and it's Jordan, like, you know, every single time.

00:54:47.73
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:56.50
Russell Gibson
So that to me is a little bit, you know, maybe interesting or, you know, something that I wasn't definitely expecting. And if I had my choice, I would take off Luca. And if I wished a card to be on there, it would be like some, I would love to see a Bill Russell card on there that's got this amazing, whether it's Logan or it's, you know, a piece of like a Boston patch or something on there that's, you know, so significant, perfect artwork. And then, you know, he's signature on that.

00:55:24.96
Russell Gibson
I think that would be fantastic. But would it get up to that pricing? You know, no, like probably not. Bill Russell just doesn't have that juice there. But that's who I would like to see on the list. ah I think that's who I sort of revere.

00:55:36.79
Adz
Well, yeah.

00:55:38.06
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:55:38.43
Adz
I mean, you're talking, the goat discussion comes out and you've got LeBron up there and you've got Jordan up there and you've got Curry. I think, I think Curry's just, it's an emphatic statement about how recognized Steph Curry is in this hobby and maybe how still there's still opportunity to to buy.

00:55:50.74
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:55:56.81
Adz
Cause it's, ah it is one of those eternal investments. He is a long-term buyer.

00:56:01.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right. I think the rest of this stuff, man, we can probably just quick hit this and and knock it all out. Let's just see how we go. This is from courtside buzz.

00:56:12.49
Russell Gibson
I G. Lonzo ball has no timetable to return from his wrist injury. And Billy Donovan says, if he played through it, he would have needed season injuries. So this guy's absolutely cooked. Like I don't want to hear another word about Lonzo ball on this show again.

00:56:26.04
Russell Gibson
That's it. He's done. Please retire.

00:56:28.61
Adz
Cease and desist regarding Lonzo Ball.

00:56:28.70
Russell Gibson
And, um,

00:56:31.90
Russell Gibson
lit Let insurance pay out the rest of your contract mate, just go away basically. Gigi Jackson, ah black one of one from Cardletter sold for 23,180 PS8 on this.

00:56:40.85
Adz
Whoo!

00:56:44.84
Russell Gibson
Adam, buy, hold or sell at 23K.

00:56:47.57
Adz
PSA or the the the the grading doesn't really matter if it's a one-on-one.

00:56:51.79
Russell Gibson
Definitely not.

00:56:52.27
Adz
um I'm selling that for 23K.

00:56:54.51
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:56:54.60
Adz
No offence, GG.

00:56:57.40
Russell Gibson
All right. So hold that thought for two seconds. I'm going to change the sheet around just a tiny bit. So this next one is from Lameme James, which is definitely one of my top 10 Instagram entertaining and also informative.

00:57:09.01
Adz
if you want an entertaining Instagram page.

00:57:13.91
Russell Gibson
So for example, this came from a screenshot from Lameme James of a blowout forum where someone sold the Jalen Brunson, one of one Nebula for $300 delivered.

00:57:26.24
Russell Gibson
and it recently sold PSA 9 for $96,661. So, yeah.

00:57:36.51
Adz
Surely. Is this legit?

00:57:42.86
Russell Gibson
So I think that's the risk with the Gigi Jackson where you go, okay, you know, great, you know, I'll flip this out at 26K, you know, that's delicious, it's all good, but you know, then you've sort of got that, that sort of high, when I say pop, I don't mean population.

00:57:55.67
Russell Gibson
I mean like explosion, you know, up to 96,000. Look, I think that's a really well timed sale. I think Brunson is really hot at the moment, even if he's not playing that well and the Knicks aren't playing that well.

00:58:07.84
Adz
I just love what it says. When that young and twine house served for $70, I'd imagine a sweet one of one of a rookie is worth 300.

00:58:17.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I mean, it's good salesmanship. I think at that time he was right because think about it. Like no one cared about Jelen Bronson even two years ago.

00:58:26.22
Adz
Yeah, it's true. It's very true. But oh my God, how how dumb.

00:58:28.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And four years ago, he wasn't on anyone's radar, just full stop. Like he was in junk boxes.

00:58:34.53
Adz
Oh yeah, I'm like, it's so rough though, like to post that out, it's like, hey, idiot, look at the look at this guy over here.

00:58:35.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:58:44.09
Russell Gibson
I mean, we didn't say idiot. We just said, check this out.

00:58:46.07
Adz
No, but I feel like the Lamine James page is just like, oh my God.

00:58:50.23
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:58:51.42
Adz
he Surely this guy's been tagged for a bit of a chuckle.

00:58:54.79
Russell Gibson
This next one I labeled froth material. So this is a LeBron James black gold prism PSA 9. Really I put this in for you. add I'll let you just walk us through this one.

00:59:08.75
Adz
that's sort of a color match isn't it because they're in the the the black the the uh the black trim with the the purple uniform like it's not there's no purple on it but you've got the black in it yeah this the the number

00:59:19.00
Russell Gibson
I actually didn't notice that. You're right. Yeah. He's got the black sleeve on his arm. It's got the yellow in the Lakers text. Yeah. And actually the number is black too.

00:59:29.81
Russell Gibson
It's black on gold.

00:59:30.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:30.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:59:31.62
Adz
It's that, it's that, um, whatever the city jersey or whatever they do is, but it's the, yeah, the black and golds, the trimming to the purple Jersey. So that is a hot card.

00:59:39.47
Russell Gibson
That looks insane. Some of the parallels that Padini make are actually delicious, aren't they? And that is like the perfect example of that. The black golds are just hot, honestly.

00:59:50.88
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:59:51.23
Adz
PSA should just grade that a 10 for how hot the card looks really.

00:59:55.16
Russell Gibson
That's right. All righty. Second year players making a mark, Brady Dick at 21.6 points per game, Wemby at 18.9 and Belal Koolabale who I have traditionally been quite interested in at 17.7.

01:00:13.96
Russell Gibson
I think...

01:00:14.08
Adz
It's an interesting, it's, it's well, Wembley's not a surprise, right?

01:00:18.12
Russell Gibson
No, definitely not. I think Grady Dick at 21.6, that is the one that I wouldn't have guessed that in a million years, honestly.

01:00:26.23
Adz
Mm, mm.

01:00:27.57
Russell Gibson
I still put that down to injuries for the Raptors. so

01:00:29.96
Adz
Sure, but do does does this does this performance change the narrative once Barnes is back?

01:00:37.85
Russell Gibson
I think it helps keep him in the rotation. I think once someone's averaging 20 points a game, it's very difficult just to give them DMPs.

01:00:45.47
Adz
Mm-hmm.

01:00:47.12
Russell Gibson
That's very, very difficult to happen, I think.

01:00:50.04
Adz
And does 17.7 points a game mean anything for Koolabale?

01:00:54.77
Russell Gibson
I think it does because that also means that they're not playing their veterans as much. And I think that was my fear for this year was that like, Kula Valley wouldn't get, you know, Bob Carrington wouldn't get into the lineup, you know, all that type of stuff.

01:00:59.77
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:07.35
Russell Gibson
And it actually seems like they are playing the younger kids a little bit. So.

01:01:11.16
Adz
Yeah, that's true.

01:01:12.55
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, WMB heat check, 2023 optic, WMB gold vinyl, one of one PSA nine sold for 184,000.

01:01:13.00
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:24.53
Adz
Ooh.

01:01:25.92
Russell Gibson
Look, i I think at that point, there's no other argument than to make you just have to say, look, if you had this card, you would sell it like that type of money is literally life changing.

01:01:34.33
Adz
I just, i'm I'm just, do you know what? I reckon there might be more Wembley one of ones than any other players. I've just, it the it's phenomenal the the amount of one of ones that have come out.

01:01:45.41
Russell Gibson
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

01:01:51.87
Adz
I don't know. Like I know there's a lot of parallels, but did they set a new record for number of parallels without us knowing in other products? act Like just sneak extra one-of-one parallels into each set?

01:02:03.93
Russell Gibson
I think select probably really made a mockery of one of ones, how many they put into that.

01:02:10.81
Adz
It was Noah's Ark, wasn't it? All the different animals they named everything after.

01:02:13.64
Russell Gibson
It's like a rainbow of one of ones.

01:02:15.65
Adz
Yeah, that's it. yeah That's the new rainbow chase. How many one-of-ones can you get in your rainbow?

01:02:20.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so I think the last one we spoke about with the three second year players, I think if you want to not focus on this year's draft, you do that, right? So we've we've done a little bit of this tonight. So I think sort of maybe that's the theme for tonight's show ad.

01:02:33.99
Russell Gibson
You don't want to dip into this year's draft. Great. This is the show for you. We've we've covered the Cade rookie year.

01:02:37.26
Adz
Where, where are we going? Yeah.

01:02:39.72
Russell Gibson
Now the next one to look at too is ah RJ Barrett. This is another Toronto Raptors player who's playing some insane basketball this year. 28.8 points per game, 5.8 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 49% from the field and 46% from three point land.

01:02:57.30
Russell Gibson
I think the tricky thing for me with this guy is that he was drafted to New York. And the problem with being drafted to New York is that you basically are paying double what you should pay.

01:03:06.46
Adz
Expectations.

01:03:07.76
Russell Gibson
It's the same as the Lakers. Like think about Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, you know, all those guys, like you just paid, you know, absolute top dollar.

01:03:09.35
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:14.87
Adz
Definitely, definitely.

01:03:16.36
Russell Gibson
Now this is really interesting though. Here we go.

01:03:19.25
Adz
The question about the but the the the thing with RJ Barrett, I can go into the the sales, but it's, he's getting 28 points on a Toronto team that's won one game this season.

01:03:19.32
Russell Gibson
So a PSA 10.

01:03:23.28
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

01:03:32.34
Russell Gibson
I think the wins will come around. I actually don't think the Raptors have been that bad this year. I think when Scotty Barnes comes back, he will definitely help them be at least a 40% team.

01:03:39.76
Adz
Okay Yeah, they've learned one yeah Together they trade but so they're trying to put up points, but to I don't know I feel like they've they've been in a few games I Don't know I always I worry about the the the good player in a bad team scenario Especially but you're right with the New York parallel

01:03:42.63
Russell Gibson
Or I'm wrong about this. And these, these guys are tanking as hard as the Jazz are to try and get Cooper flagged.

01:03:59.13
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

01:04:05.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:11.18
Russell Gibson
So population on this is high, 1300 last sold for $45. So you can make a very strong argument that, you know, how much lower can this card go down? I think what we should do for a little bit of a giggle is go to his old time high.

01:04:24.39
Russell Gibson
It's sold for a thousand bucks. ah Yeah, that's brutal.

01:04:28.04
Adz
Wow, so he's in the Jordan pool category.

01:04:28.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:31.65
Russell Gibson
He absolutely is.

01:04:33.39
Adz
I'm taking a dip into the Jordan pool. so

01:04:38.41
Russell Gibson
From Shams, Kevin Durant has got a left calf strain and will be re-evaluated in two weeks. This is a real blow for the Suns who are currently 8-1.

01:04:45.75
Adz
Uh-oh.

01:04:48.86
Adz
Top of the table, son.

01:04:50.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah I hate to hear this.

01:04:50.75
Adz
Not good.

01:04:52.21
Russell Gibson
I mean on the flip side, they they've got Booker still, they've still got Bradley Beal. Their point guard situation seems to have actually like evened out a little bit this year, like they're not using Booker so much as a point guard anymore.

01:05:05.49
Russell Gibson
Look maybe they'll actually hold tight until he comes back.

01:05:10.20
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:13.64
Russell Gibson
This is from, this is an interesting one from at Jazz Socks. Toronto receives OJ Abaje and Kelly Olenek. Utah receives Kyra Lewis Jr. who left in free agency, Otto Porter Jr. who retired, and a 2024 first who became Isaiah Collier who who won this trade.

01:05:37.91
Adz
Um,

01:05:39.79
Russell Gibson
I like Abaje.

01:05:42.90
Russell Gibson
I really like him.

01:05:43.56
Adz
yeah yeah i'm i'm like oh i guess they um it could be it's a yeah i feel like it's a lost loss but it's it it was like you know how there are win-win trades this is the opposite of that

01:05:49.45
Russell Gibson
I think Utah really dropped the ball on that one. No one won.

01:05:58.37
Russell Gibson
yeah

01:06:03.25
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, we are gonna finish off tonight's show with an absolute feel good story. Scotty Pippin Jr. tonight, 11 points, 11 assists, 10 rebounds and 50% in the field.

01:06:15.37
Russell Gibson
Now this leads us to a more interesting question. Should you be buying up Scotty Pippin Jr.?

01:06:22.95
Adz
Scotty Pippen Jr.

01:06:24.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah, who I believe was a Laker for his rookie cards.

01:06:29.98
Adz
Oh God, that makes some.

01:06:34.11
Russell Gibson
I've got my head in the game right.

01:06:36.27
Adz
Yup. No, he might not have been a Laker for the draft, was he? we might have been Oh, Well, Cardlater doesn't like him.

01:06:50.54
Adz
and

01:06:51.10
Russell Gibson
Second round draft pick, correct? Yeah. So I've literally found a single card for this guy, 22-23, Panini one-on-one Scotty Pippen Jr.

01:06:53.70
Adz
Yeah.

01:06:59.21
Russell Gibson
rookie card, 58 out of 19. I know this sold for 40 bucks. like

01:07:03.73
Adz
Wow, that is a deep cut.

01:07:03.77
Russell Gibson
i

01:07:06.60
Russell Gibson
That's a deep cut, but I love one-on-one. I think that There's going to be the Scotty Pippen senior connection there. So I kind of feel like a little bit of value youre going to get from that.

01:07:14.69
Adz
Yeah, totally agree.

01:07:16.97
Russell Gibson
And now he's actually like a proper, a baller. So again, you don't want to dip into this year's draft. You want to look at some other stuff. Here's something else we've got for you guys. And I think that is where we end tonight's show.

01:07:28.62
Russell Gibson
Adam, what would you like to add before we sign off tonight?

01:07:28.72
Adz
Oh, there we go. Yeah, okay, yeah.

01:07:33.76
Adz
What would I like to add? I found ah i found a Prism rookie card for Scotty Griffin Jr.

01:07:34.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Talk to me. How much?

01:07:38.78
Adz
22, 23 Panini Prism. ah Oh God, recently. So I've got these, this is just for sale. Buy it now for $1.35.

01:07:49.04
Russell Gibson
Oh, bye. Is that silver or base?

01:07:51.08
Adz
Oh no, Cheri, no, that's that's a base. Cheri's got one for 25 bucks.

01:07:54.64
Russell Gibson
Course. um Hang on. Hang on. I'm beeping that out. No comment.

01:07:58.51
Adz
can you i Can you edit that so it just says, Bip, he's got that for 25 bucks?

01:08:05.62
Adz
um There's a bunch there for Bugro. They're not PSA graded. um There is, they're all, all, there is someone that's got one.

01:08:10.79
Russell Gibson
No, people are past that man. You know, what do you got for us?

01:08:19.33
Adz
PSA 10 Blue Prism to 199.

01:08:24.10
Russell Gibson
Mm-hmm.

01:08:26.25
Adz
for 90 bucks, but it's it's you could i could make you could make an offer.

01:08:28.05
Russell Gibson
Great.

01:08:33.91
Russell Gibson
He's bawling. So.

01:08:35.19
Adz
Oh, Memphis is blue. I just get color match obsessed, but it's yeah, he's in purple and gold.

01:08:38.68
Russell Gibson
Yep.

01:08:41.68
Adz
You're right, he's in a Lakers uniform for his rookie year.

01:08:45.98
Russell Gibson
Do you know what we didn't talk about is the YouTube channel. I think we should finish on this. Adam, you have been hard at work on the YouTube channel. It looks fantastic. Listeners out there, please go and check out all the work that Adam's done. He's curated the videos. He's put graphics on them. He's been putting shorts up. He's been doing five and 10 minute videos for your ease of consumption.

01:09:07.24
Russell Gibson
We do all of our live streaming on YouTube. All of our podcasts are on there. We've got how many videos on there now, man? Like 350 videos, something like that.

01:09:15.35
Adz
ah there's There's a stack up there, the whole back catalogue, they're not video, they're audio only. The whole back catalogue of the podcast is available on YouTube.

01:09:23.13
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:09:24.70
Adz
A bunch of our old lives are there, but we've got I've actually curated that so it features as our special guests. So any episode that had a special guest on it is now available on YouTube in the video on the main screen.

01:09:35.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And we've had some good guests over time, haven't we?

01:09:37.52
Adz
So the episode with Tyson Beck, we've got the the other week when we had Lane on.

01:09:39.47
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:09:42.37
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:09:43.30
Adz
We've got, we had Mike and Jesse.

01:09:43.50
Russell Gibson
We had the guys from sports cards nonsense. We've had Ryan from Gemrate. Yeah.

01:09:47.38
Adz
Yeah, Ryan. And um yeah, there's so there's a lot of content on there.

01:09:48.42
Russell Gibson
Shout out Ryan.

01:09:51.84
Adz
I'll be i'll be sort of doing a little bit more um as we go. There will be more coming.

01:09:58.17
Russell Gibson
Anyway, I thank you for that.

01:09:58.45
Adz
Yeah, it's nice. and

01:09:59.50
Russell Gibson
The listeners are going to thank you for it once they go and check it out. Like, subscribe, and what's the other thing that people are supposed to say?

01:10:05.50
Adz
tick the bell, the notifications bell, so so you can see when we're live, which where we are right now, funnily enough.

01:10:07.03
Russell Gibson
Hit our notifications. That's it. Thanks, Ad. Yeah. We are live.

01:10:11.74
Adz
but and And Anthony Milne is actually, our listener of the show, is in the chat, because we talked about RJ Barrett, his boy.

01:10:18.29
Russell Gibson
Right. All right. Thanks, everyone. Have a great day. Thanks, Ad.

01:10:23.22
Adz
See you next week.