Episode 177: Merry Christmas, Luka vs Jokic, and Yearly Recap!

 Adam and Russell want to wish everyone a huge thanks for a wonderful year. We hope you have a Merry Christmas and wonderful New Year. This weeks episode we: 
- Yearly Recap
- YouTube Give Away
-Jokic vs Luka:  SCN,  Sport card addicts, Instagram,  Twitter, 
- James Gregory: Dennis Schroder Trade History
- Bucks review
- Card ladder Giannis & Kaboom
- Lillard  & Lillard Kaboom
- Gary Trent
- WNBA Surly Sports Cards
- Caitlin Clark Select Auto
- 130point CC
- Pricing guide: JA PSA, BGS, SGC,
- Giannis vs SGA
- Trae Young
- Adam’s Cards:  Cade Cunningham
- MJ record collection

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Adz
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Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 177 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We are your hosts Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson. It is almost the end of the year.

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Adz
It's, um, yeah, 2025 is nearing 2024 is coming to an end.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
Yeah. And I'll echo echo that that sentiment there. That's very, yeah, very much. It was an honor to be there. It was great to sort of hang out with the guys and and quite a few people there.

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Adz
It was it was a lovely night, really enjoyable evening.

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Adz
Nice to see people in person, I think is the other thing there.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
Mmm.

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Adz
Really?

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Adz
was new to us

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Adz
Yeah, let's do it.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
It's become it's become the thing, hasn't it? Like Spotify send out their wrapped thing you get like it's the the the big wrap up time of the year where yeah everyone sort of the Spotify wrapped yet.

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Adz
Is it? Oh, okay. I was gonna say there might've been a period there, I think last year where we did some doubles. I think we got 60 or 70 through the year before, but ah we were doing some split episodes then.

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Adz
We were doing it.

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Adz
We just talked for longer and made it two episodes, really.

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Adz
Radolade.

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Adz
That's awesome.

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Adz
Yep.

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Adz
Yeah, some impact worldwide, kind of.

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Adz
They do, they do.

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Adz
No.

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Adz
Yeah, Philippines and Germany, that was surprising.

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Adz
Mmm.

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Adz
Yep.

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Adz
Yeah. Sounds like a...

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Adz
Oh boy. Oh boy.

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Adz
That was a great episode.

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Adz
And who do we have at number four? It was Rod Adams. I remember that when we...

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Adz
It was very busy, it was very busy at the hobby, hobby hangout. Yeah.

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Adz
Maybe we'll have to go over to Radolade for a card show.

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Adz
Maybe if they increase their listenership then we'll, we'll go on to an appearance.

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Adz
Yep.

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Adz
I remember that. Cause we, we, we did that. Um, we had to work that into our work schedule to do that interview. That was, that was good.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
but Without a guest.

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Adz
Okay. Reach out. Yep.

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Adz
Yeah, for sure, for sure. You don't, I mean, yeah, you don't have to take up the whole episode. God, you don't have to put up with this for a whole hour, but but yeah, if you want, to okay, someone wants to come on, have a chat about a particular topic.

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Adz
Um, anything just reach out. We're, we're, we're generally very happy to talk about things as you would have noticed for, yeah, most, most card related or basketball card related, um, things, but yeah, let's do it.

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Adz
Yeah. It'd be nice to interview some, some new people in the new year.

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Adz
Yep.

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Adz
ye

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Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
yeah Yeah.

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Adz
But it's a little, we haven't moved down, which is really positive. No, I think we're trending we're trending in the right direction, most definitely.

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Adz
Yeah,

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Adz
yeah we we appreciate it. We love talking every Sunday night, but um it's it's really humbling.

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Adz
And and yeah, it's it's good to know that there are people that enjoy listening to us waffle on about basketball cards.

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Adz
That's it.

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Adz
yeah Yeah, that's awesome.

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Adz
Yeah, little little bit of traction.

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Adz
Look, yeah, and if you know people are just like, Just look and get them to subscribe. Get everybody to subscribe. but Get yourself some extra entries by getting your friends to to to get in on it.

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Adz
Organic. Yep.

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Adz
and can Check it out.

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Adz
yeah and the And the entire back catalogue of episodes are up on YouTube.

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Adz
um for for podcast download, like you can actually just listen to the pods. um We've got videos of of previous live streams, we've got um breakdowns of segments, and and then yeah, obviously we do our little, our shorts and stuff that go up um every couple of days with with with snippets from the show.

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Adz
Yeah, that'll be good. Once we get to 150, yeah, we get to give away a box of Revolution Hobby, that'll be fun.

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Adz
And we're not shock jocks. We're not we're not here to create drama.

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Adz
Yeah, we would.

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Adz
We've had an advertisement and we've plugged ourself for the first 10 minutes.

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Adz
That's literally it.

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Adz
This is, oh look, I think it's great.

00:11:02.85
Adz
Let's um let's get into some basketball cards.

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Adz
Can't believe I'm gonna say this. I like the aesthetic of the Luca.

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Adz
But over the yokich, I do.

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Adz
Yeah, possible, possible.

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Adz
Yep. Yeah. yeah

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Adz
The numbers not, he's almost leading every stat in the NBA.

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Adz
It's insane.

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Adz
For the fourth time.

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Adz
It is the numbers game.

00:13:06.49
Adz
That's crazy, isn't it?

00:13:13.72
Adz
Yeah.

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Adz
Oh, look, it's it. I think it is a pretty, pretty well illustrated point how

00:13:23.76
Adz
Look, high pop count on Luca aside, I think the low pop count on Jokic is a focus here for me.

00:13:35.38
Adz
Yeah, I was gonna say it's a lot more than seven.

00:13:42.55
Adz
But, ha ha.

00:13:49.71
Adz
But yeah, it's, I don't know. Yeah, stats don't, numbers don't lie, apparently.

00:14:03.19
Adz
Captures my attention is, I mean, the pop count is the thing that's stuck out when we did Jokic versus Wembley, it was the same thing, right? Like it was, pop count is incredibly low, sub 200 on the PSA 10.

00:14:19.01
Adz
but we're over 2K on Luca. That's that's the one that that concerns me, I guess.

00:14:31.04
Adz
Mm. Okay. Yeah.

00:14:58.24
Adz
If you bought it before 2020, you were gonna get it for less than 500 bucks.

00:15:06.69
Adz
Yep, yep.

00:15:24.38
Adz
Yeah, I mean, you've got the COVID spike.

00:15:28.36
Adz
Yeah, but after the spike, I think you've seen this stability from Yoke at a good level, sustained level.

00:15:36.35
Adz
Well, that's because they won a championship and he won a bunch of MVPs.

00:15:46.81
Adz
Yeah, and then we'll come back and break this down further.

00:16:06.34
Adz
I'm energized, I'm refreshed. I'm ready to break this Luca versus Jokic combo down. And I believe you you use the tagline with the previous one, Brunton versus Lamello, the ultimate hype versus the ultimate substance ah debate.

00:16:26.06
Adz
And I refer to these two as the ultimate hype in Luca versus the ultimate substance in Jokic.

00:16:36.03
Adz
This is the ultimate. I've never seen so much smoke blowing up someone that hasn't won anything in my life.

00:16:53.71
Adz
Interesting.

00:17:02.25
Adz
choing

00:17:07.51
Adz
Yeah.

00:17:17.57
Adz
Yeah.

00:17:27.06
Adz
yeah

00:17:31.62
Adz
Well, it's the curry crowd, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:17:43.33
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:17:57.94
Adz
Nice.

00:17:59.85
Adz
Yep.

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Adz
I like that. I do i do like that how you get you get drawn back in and then you have um

00:18:09.48
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:14.80
Adz
yeah over Yeah.

00:18:16.18
Adz
Who else have we got in the Joker only due to the low pop?

00:18:23.33
Adz
I'm like, okay, that's that's a point.

00:18:31.64
Adz
Yeah. look ah Personally, I like look using low pop as a good, as a big indicator.

00:18:39.92
Adz
but I wouldn't use it as my only indicator.

00:18:44.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:48.28
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:55.86
Adz
Yeah, good point, yeah.

00:18:59.73
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:19:21.58
Adz
Eddie is very, very sure that Luca is a ah sure thing.

00:19:34.51
Adz
Yeah.

00:19:47.90
Adz
Mmm.

00:20:03.90
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:10.50
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:20:12.72
Adz
Good point. Good point.

00:20:17.64
Adz
Oh.

00:20:28.54
Adz
Yep.

00:20:33.97
Adz
Eric Whiteback. Oh, wait. That's you.

00:20:39.38
Adz
Oh, yeah. Yep.

00:20:49.22
Adz
Haha.

00:20:59.44
Adz
Mm.

00:21:09.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:21:12.81
Adz
For sure. Okay. 100%. Oh.

00:22:12.47
Adz
Yeah.

00:22:22.75
Adz
oh

00:22:26.30
Adz
yeah, Anthony Milne, ah at it at it as usual, listening, listening on multiple platforms and contributing in all the forums.

00:22:41.19
Adz
Um,

00:22:44.17
Adz
Yeah, for achievements, ah it's Jokic hands down.

00:22:48.30
Adz
For resale value, Luca, the hype of winning MVP or a ring is still a value for people who bought in. And if Shaywim's MVP before Luca, I think that prospect should go down, ah in my opinion.

00:23:05.90
Adz
Love to hear what you two crews

00:23:10.69
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah two up crews gotta say aka the flippers Yeah, the two. Okay, I get it. I like it. I like it Yeah, the flippers that the flippers would see this as currency Interesting

00:23:44.83
Adz
Do you think that the Tatum value is sort of, the parallel's coming?

00:23:51.95
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:56.86
Adz
And I think Tatum might, well, but I don't know, the Celtics go back to back. like that I think Tatum will go up.

00:24:04.27
Adz
that's a That's a comp for later in the year maybe, or early next year.

00:24:09.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:12.67
Adz
like Okay, he's down as well.

00:24:16.08
Adz
So they've both dropped off that $100, $200. Maybe the market floor's just changed.

00:24:21.52
Adz
That's another one.

00:24:27.70
Adz
Yep.

00:24:52.18
Adz
I think it's a very reasonable answer.

00:24:53.17
Adz
I think it's it makes it makes the most sense.

00:25:04.16
Adz
Yep.

00:25:16.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:17.80
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:33.26
Adz
Yeah, yeah. And Hardin, it's interesting, Hardin doesn't really have a hobby. I mean, the rookie the rookie stuff is, but, but, yeah.

00:25:46.51
Adz
No, he's definitely not, not, um yeah.

00:25:50.95
Adz
Not one of the faves.

00:26:00.60
Adz
Yeah, it's okay.

00:26:04.23
Adz
Unless Dontich teams up with Jokic, he's never ever gonna win a chip. And even then, he'll be the second most valuable player on the team. He followed this up by saying, put it on a shirt, Adam Amy.

00:26:23.25
Adz
Maybe I do need to get some some some form of um criticism against Luca Dontich put on a shirt.

00:26:32.19
Adz
Happy to stand by it. Until that man wins a ring, I'm, um yeah. i I just like, I don't see the value. I see the hype, I don't see the value.

00:26:54.59
Adz
Love it.

00:26:59.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:02.96
Adz
Well, yeah, personally for collection purposes, I think the Jokic would be a cooler card to have, especially with the low pop count um and the accolades he's already strung together.

00:27:13.87
Adz
Yeah, but there's just something about that not so elusive Lucas Silver Prism.

00:27:20.08
Adz
What is actually, um what if he actually shings together a couple of MVPs and a chip or two?

00:27:25.90
Adz
I'll be kicking myself for not buying it, k kind of like I am now about not buying a Joker a joker a couple of years ago.

00:27:39.92
Adz
Is it all right? Is that the good floor for Luca? It's a reasonable, yeah.

00:27:50.84
Adz
Fence.

00:27:56.99
Adz
I feel like the well the question is which one are you picking?

00:28:00.15
Adz
So does it answer the question?

00:28:03.42
Adz
yeah

00:28:15.84
Adz
I'm in the yoke camp, yes. Yes.

00:28:31.30
Adz
When I first saw this, when I first saw this, I thought it was gonna put the gift for the shot of the Shaq rainbow and the Dennis Schroeder rainbow as well.

00:28:42.33
Adz
it

00:28:48.51
Adz
He's been around.

00:28:50.66
Adz
Basically, the I've been everywhere man.

00:29:01.55
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:13.45
Adz
True.

00:29:17.91
Adz
It's funny because he's a real asset to to the teams that he's been on.

00:29:24.14
Adz
Not only that, he last year helped Germany like win a world championship. Do you know what I mean?

00:29:30.74
Adz
like he's He's a quality player.

00:29:36.91
Adz
It'll be interesting to see. I watched a little bit of that game today. I don't know. It might take a bit of getting used to to fit in, but I think there's a sp it's going to add some firepower to the Warriors, that's for sure.

00:29:54.27
Adz
Yeah, maybe that's why they've gone. Yep, I could.

00:30:03.18
Adz
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Draymond is.

00:30:10.98
Adz
It's it's Yeah, they're not. They're not what they used to be.

00:30:17.76
Adz
Which is

00:31:08.10
Adz
There's a little form you feel out, isn't there?

00:31:14.26
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:31:33.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:31:40.83
Adz
Yep.

00:32:30.67
Adz
it's It's a good idea, a really good idea, a good opportunity to get those missing cards that you sort of struggle to find

00:33:00.30
Adz
Mmm.

00:33:05.66
Adz
I did see in season tournament.

00:33:30.24
Adz
Yeah.

00:33:32.97
Adz
Certainly has, hasn't it? Yup.

00:33:44.00
Adz
Giannis entered to compo.

00:33:53.70
Adz
Yup.

00:34:17.24
Adz
Hmm.

00:34:21.19
Adz
in Interesting that it's doubling a bit of yoke each, right?

00:34:25.46
Adz
When the pop count of the harness is half.

00:34:30.00
Adz
Pop count's 85.

00:34:33.60
Adz
It's a good gauge. I think it's a really good gauge for those type for that kind of low pop count.

00:34:41.44
Adz
I think this is a good example of it correlating very well.

00:34:54.92
Adz
Really?

00:35:04.51
Adz
ah

00:35:10.35
Adz
Yeah, that's true. That's what concerns me about the Luca thing.

00:35:15.42
Adz
Because I think the value will over time, yeah.

00:35:30.31
Adz
Poor Yogi just keeps getting into every discussion.

00:35:38.79
Adz
What about Yalas versus Tatum?

00:35:47.01
Adz
And comparing him, yeah, and comparing him to all the others.

00:36:03.19
Adz
True.

00:36:12.59
Adz
Oh, yep.

00:36:33.42
Adz
Wow.

00:36:44.71
Adz
Yep.

00:36:49.46
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:53.94
Adz
I, yeah.

00:36:58.05
Adz
It's a great buy.

00:37:03.88
Adz
What's it?

00:37:06.49
Adz
Is it? He's Yannis' new partner in crime, isn't he?

00:37:17.66
Adz
Haha.

00:37:28.20
Adz
Hmm.

00:37:33.75
Adz
Yeah.

00:37:39.05
Adz
Okay.

00:37:42.84
Adz
Yeah.

00:37:45.07
Adz
Hmm.

00:37:55.02
Adz
Yeah. There's the, there's the question, right?

00:38:09.67
Adz
Yeah, you're right.

00:38:24.61
Adz
That's a really, really, really interesting question. If someone offered me ah a Lillard straight up for a Luca 10,

00:38:41.72
Adz
I'm fighting with a lot of my... um in it Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of conflict going on in my head right now.

00:38:51.29
Adz
um Because everything tells me to go for the lilyd.

00:38:56.80
Adz
But I know that Lucas... Lucas got room to grow. Lilyd doesn't have that room.

00:39:10.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:39:15.23
Adz
Yes, yes.

00:39:17.02
Adz
Yeah, and I don't i don't think the Luke is gonna go dramatically down, and I don't think the Lillards, do you know what I mean?

00:39:22.82
Adz
I don't think it's got a lot of ways to go. It'll tick up, I'm sure, if he's at the end of his career, but...

00:39:31.41
Adz
Yeah, I don't see the the potential for growth with Lillards is much more limited.

00:39:39.63
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:08.70
Adz
On the raw.

00:40:15.31
Adz
Nice.

00:40:26.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:30.16
Adz
Goodbye. Just a goodbye.

00:40:31.71
Adz
It's probably one of the last sub 500.

00:40:35.26
Adz
Yeah. In a kaboom, yep.

00:40:38.93
Adz
Yep. Yep, for sure.

00:41:17.30
Adz
Bit of love.

00:41:25.91
Adz
ah

00:41:31.50
Adz
Goodness.

00:41:50.92
Adz
Tim, we've given mine for that too.

00:41:56.07
Adz
There you go.

00:42:05.19
Adz
Oh, look, I think the think the the story here is that the bucks are back.

00:42:13.83
Adz
I mean,

00:42:15.39
Adz
they they Yeah, well, my early season predictions I thought were in the toilet. Now the bucks are back.

00:42:20.36
Adz
The revenge tour can continue.

00:42:30.87
Adz
Yes.

00:42:50.06
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:56.15
Adz
ah um I've got those for those that didn't see the cards last week. There's it's better photos of them.

00:43:03.76
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:10.22
Adz
Yep.

00:43:34.29
Adz
Yep, I know exactly what you mean.

00:43:43.95
Adz
Yep.

00:43:53.24
Adz
Rookie auto.

00:44:05.58
Adz
That's pretty crazy, isn't it?

00:44:07.73
Adz
Well done on the um on ripping ah ah such a sexy card.

00:44:21.84
Adz
Quick hit. Brilliant.

00:44:39.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:09.68
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:18.79
Adz
On just, on the different grading companies, I think it's got to be an image thing, right?

00:45:23.69
Adz
The PSA 10 has the number 10 on it. Simple as that.

00:45:28.49
Adz
um As much as the 9.5s could grade 10s, I think it,

00:45:40.02
Adz
ah A lot goes into that that number of the grade.

00:45:44.22
Adz
um i I do love the the old BGS slab, so I do like the 9.5s, but because there's a 10 out there, I think, and i and and this is just a personal view on it, but but I think there's the it's not a 10 is what rings true with the 9.5s.

00:46:09.23
Adz
um And that's translated by the way people speak with their wallets when they're when they're buying cards in in in the market.

00:46:18.37
Adz
um um And we know like subgrades, if you've got you've only got one bad subgrade on the on the BGS, there's a chance you you transfer that over and regrade it with PSA.

00:46:34.68
Adz
And it's a 10.

00:46:42.60
Adz
It's risky as hell.

00:46:48.93
Adz
do Do you think it ever changes though? Do you think the market changes or do you think PSA have solidified their place at the top of the mountain so well that changing the the public view of what the PSA 10 means?

00:47:10.40
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:15.43
Adz
Mm.

00:47:20.76
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:23.38
Adz
Yep.

00:47:46.93
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:58.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:04.32
Adz
Yep.

00:48:22.82
Adz
Uh-huh.

00:48:35.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:39.78
Adz
Yep.

00:48:44.62
Adz
Didn't they get multiple things in the deal? Yeah.

00:48:59.15
Adz
Okay.

00:49:02.02
Adz
Yeah, and Dragon Shield are accessory accessories. I know the accessories for Dragon Shield are more of a gaming TCG side because they're about quality and durability of um ah the actual sleeves for gaming.

00:49:24.80
Adz
True.

00:49:27.92
Adz
Hmm.

00:49:32.61
Adz
might just give the It my give the might give them different reach, who knows? But it's it's good to see that they're not dead.

00:49:37.45
Adz
they're they're being There's some life being brief like breathed into Beckett.

00:49:50.57
Adz
Luke Longley.

00:50:20.43
Adz
but I'm good, I'm very good. um'm It's um this this this this final run.

00:51:16.16
Adz
Hmm.

00:51:19.26
Adz
Yep.

00:51:36.09
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:51.74
Adz
Yeah

00:52:39.48
Adz
huh

00:52:47.91
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Brandon Miller versus the Jordan.

00:52:52.47
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:09.21
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:15.17
Adz
Yarnas.

00:53:19.61
Adz
That's funny. i'd i'd if I would take a Yarnas.

00:53:27.52
Adz
He's won.

00:53:30.09
Adz
SGA is damn close. Don't get me wrong.

00:53:33.54
Adz
He is is a contender for the MVP. He'll probably come second to Jokic this year. um But Jarnis has won one and Jarnis has got a chip. Jarnis is on the board as far as I'm concerned, as far as his longevity in the hobby.

00:53:49.33
Adz
he's he's And now he's got an in-season tournament championship.

00:53:53.22
Adz
Like, whoa, surely that's ah that's grounds for a huge spike. um I know the select, I um i love select as ah as a set.

00:54:04.96
Adz
So I also, i you're on that side.

00:54:10.88
Adz
It's a Yarnas one of one, it's a Yarnas one of one rookie.

00:54:16.75
Adz
It's that super superstar one of one. And this is before there were 47 different one of ones as well.

00:54:23.93
Adz
So that's that's a very, I'd say a very genuine one of one. No offense to the the SGA, but.

00:54:54.70
Adz
um i've The first thing that I read is the card letter value.

00:55:01.79
Adz
Yep.

00:55:16.15
Adz
yeah Yep.

00:55:29.99
Adz
Yeah, that's true.

00:55:40.72
Adz
True.

00:55:42.57
Adz
And they're both PSA9, but yeah.

00:55:46.22
Adz
Nice. Yeah.

00:56:07.63
Adz
and 15, right?

00:56:21.29
Adz
Mmm.

00:56:45.47
Adz
They're doing well.

00:56:50.55
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:57.01
Adz
Fair.

00:57:27.62
Adz
It's tanked, it absolutely tanked and bottomed, right?

00:57:43.15
Adz
100 bucks, I'm taking it, 100. I think sub 200 for Trey Young is ah is a good price. I think it's a really good price actually.

00:57:56.97
Adz
I think he's a good enough player for, yeah. I think of I've lost Russell. Or he's that much in shock about Trey Young.

00:58:18.77
Adz
There we go, now it's me and me. Russell's lost, Russell's dropped out of the feed.

00:58:36.85
Adz
All right. I made a comment about Trey Young being good value and that's it. I'll be lost Russell.

00:58:53.53
Adz
um I meant I might have to go offline then. If... from

00:59:22.56
Adz
Hang on. Thanks for all those playing at home and watching two of me on the screen right now.

00:59:38.36
Adz
Oh. Russell's now like, oh crap, my internet's just died.

00:59:46.15
Adz
So, I don't know what we're gonna talk about now. That's Cade, not Trey. All right, well, it got really quiet there. I don't know. I think when we go back ah and look at Trey, because I'm i'm just gonna break him down for a little bit. There's been those,

01:00:07.37
Adz
I mean, if you go back to when he was over 300, maybe he was overs. But since the Hawks have been bad, he's been in that that sort of sub-250 category. and And as far as a so a player goes in that um and that light,

01:00:29.73
Adz
I think Trey

01:00:33.38
Adz
Trey's proven he he fits in that category. Like he's been the best player on their team. um Obviously they've been hamstrung by injuries, but now the Hawks are actually sort of putting it together and showing that the Trey is the player that the Hawks thought he'd be.

01:01:12.02
Adz
Bear with us. This is the the the joys of going live.

01:01:49.12
Adz
Let's see.

01:05:32.95
Adz
Welcome back.

01:05:35.19
Adz
I can.

01:05:45.07
Adz
Yes.

01:05:48.60
Adz
Keep going and seeing what happens.

01:05:51.13
Adz
We were talking about Trey run.

01:05:52.53
Adz
Yeah. Pick it up where we, where we left off. I, I was, um,

01:06:03.90
Adz
Is this good value? I think was was the question. I think anything sub 200, and then once we got below 150, I think is is great value for for Trey Young.

01:06:19.34
Adz
Well, I think Trey is is going into the the hawks of I mean, they've been crippled by injuries and things just haven't sort of worked out recently.

01:06:30.08
Adz
But this year, it looks like they're starting to put things together. And maybe Trey is, is as good as people thought he was.

01:06:39.03
Adz
And there's, there's a little bit of value there. My only concern is the, um, he's got Lucaresque pop count.

01:06:47.48
Adz
That's the the big concern.

01:06:52.51
Adz
What? 2,363.

01:07:02.22
Adz
Uh oh.

01:07:24.99
Adz
Oh wait, now I've got you.

01:07:25.87
Adz
There we go. You just completely froze for a minute.

01:07:32.51
Adz
Haha, again.

01:07:40.79
Adz
Yep, hawklks are in a good hawks are in a good spot.

01:07:44.83
Adz
Yep.

01:07:54.27
Adz
and All right, where are we at, Trey?

01:07:59.51
Adz
The standings. Do you wanna look at the standings?

01:08:05.84
Adz
Well, I don't mind talking about the Lakers at the moment, but I'm not going to talk about them. um

01:08:16.06
Adz
Well, I think we've talked spoken enough about them, so I'm not gonna talk about the Memphis Grizzlies.

01:08:24.64
Adz
I think they're back.

01:08:28.53
Adz
We are, we're going to talk about the Detroit Pistons. Cause I also think the fact that they're 10th in the East is very impressive.

01:08:36.53
Adz
I do want to talk about the Grizzlies, but I don't think there's much hobby excitement except for Jar at the moment. So maybe, maybe we we go into Detroit land and say, is, is Cade, is this Cade's year?

01:08:52.81
Adz
Is my question.

01:09:07.52
Adz
I mean, player-wise though, I don't think de troit i don't think Detroit's the the thing. I think a this is Cade Cunningham's leap year. This is the year he go he takes his jump.

01:09:34.97
Adz
Mmm.

01:09:39.32
Adz
Yeah.

01:09:45.57
Adz
they they they've lo but yeah They're a contending team for sure.

01:09:52.08
Adz
And I think, um but it i don't I don't see without Wagner and Banchero, like i'm I'm trying to look at it from a hobby perspective at the moment.

01:10:03.62
Adz
And and at the moment, nothing stands out to me about the magic.

01:10:07.52
Adz
Do you know what I mean? Like they're just a well put together team.

01:10:12.82
Adz
Which is why I didn't wanna bring, that's why I didn't wanna bring Memphis in. Cause all we do is talk about Jar again.

01:10:19.29
Adz
um

01:10:24.69
Adz
Yeah.

01:10:26.82
Adz
I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't, I think it's a, well, Kade and Trey, right? Trey Young's a hundred bucks. 120 bucks.

01:10:39.42
Adz
Cade's last sold $230.

01:10:43.36
Adz
Cade just dropped 28 points in 13 assists to beat Phoenix today.

01:10:54.22
Adz
Yep. Yep. And it's that kind of pop count on Cade, I think is is a very reasonable pop count. um

01:11:08.37
Adz
he's He's been stable around that, like I know he's dropped off a lot of, it like he's down, but he hasn't dropped below, he's been, sorry, to three and $200, he fluctuates.

01:11:25.85
Adz
Yeah, the the fluctuations have been have been incredible with um the way, I mean, Detroit's been awful for two or three, since Cade's been in the league, right?

01:11:37.60
Adz
He's been injured, but I feel like this year, there are a lot of positive signs, Cade leading the way on it. He's had a a couple of mega, like really big triple doubles. He's got a lot of big double doubles in his point, like his his output is huge.

01:12:19.11
Adz
Well, you reckon you'll drop below 200?

01:12:33.67
Adz
I think they've got a good foundation at the moment.

01:12:35.47
Adz
I think there's something, yeah.

01:12:46.35
Adz
Yeah.

01:12:55.13
Adz
That's fair.

01:13:08.60
Adz
Interesting. I've i've got Kate as an All-Star this year.

01:13:11.66
Adz
I've got Kate pushing for the All-Star team.

01:13:14.85
Adz
I think he's taking a step, but yeah, as you're you're right, they're not the best team to watch.

01:13:19.95
Adz
But when they're on, they're, um it's like watching Orlando a year or two ago.

01:13:26.21
Adz
When when Banchero was sort of doing his thing, there were games where you go, oh wow, this kid's got talent and and you get the right pieces around, they'll be good.

01:13:36.76
Adz
I don't know, I see a call forming and I think Detroit's doing what a lot of the other bad teams aren't doing and that's sticking with it.

01:13:46.40
Adz
They've stuck with it for now at least, yeah.

01:13:49.84
Adz
Yes, that's true.

01:13:51.49
Adz
Are they still in the NBA?

01:13:55.38
Adz
That's rough, that's rough.

01:14:00.92
Adz
That's a team that's actually doing quite well at the moment as well, the Houston Rockets.

01:14:09.75
Adz
I think we were just about to tick over to the hour mark when this all happened.

01:14:36.78
Adz
I like it.

01:14:41.21
Adz
Yep.

01:14:58.94
Adz
Oh, the um, yep, the marvels, yep.

01:15:14.43
Adz
I don't know, it's just like, it's it's a good thing that it's the vinyl, because it's it's a record, literally setting record.

01:15:20.87
Adz
It's such a good play on words.

01:15:26.16
Adz
there'd be able but There'll be a LeBron set of it.

01:15:28.59
Adz
He's been breaking records, setting records.

01:15:34.23
Adz
Billion minutes, most double figure games in history now.

01:15:42.20
Adz
The records keep coming.

01:15:47.04
Adz
Thank you. um this is This is our last one for the year. I know you've got one more in the tank.

01:15:54.81
Adz
Yeah.

01:15:57.75
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. umm I'm gonna be be off for my Christmas festivities next week. So, yeah.

01:16:10.87
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. A few days away.

01:16:13.80
Adz
It's safe and happy.

01:16:15.75
Adz
Yeah, hopefully you guys are on the um on the on the nice list.

01:16:21.60
Adz
You don't get get a potato.

01:16:25.08
Adz
yeah that's unless you want Unless you ask for a potato.

01:16:28.70
Adz
If you ask for a potato, I hope you get potato.

01:16:32.18
Adz
um if you ask yeah yeah Exactly.

01:16:35.95
Adz
high quality potatoes. potatoes um Yeah, thanks for for for a great 2024, I guess, for everybody listening and and to you Russell, looking forward to doing it it all over again in 2025.

01:16:50.54
Adz
And talking and ragging on Luca and you know the usual stuff.

01:16:57.42
Adz
Yeah, awesome. Thanks everyone. See you next time, next year.