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Episode 182: Emergency Podcast Luka Traded For Anthony Davis

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00:00.00
Adz
um and go live button

00:14.18
Adz
Welcome everybody to what's but the I don't know what episode number it is my heads exploded um This is an emergency pod um Why does news break this late on a Sunday in Australia?

00:23.16
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26.78
Adz
I thought people were asleep on Saturday night

00:30.47
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's, it's a wild one, isn't it? I think completely caught me by surprise of all the people I thought would be traded this year.

00:33.33
Adz
It's a bit crazy.

00:37.05
Russell Gibson
I would have bet my house that it wouldn't have been Luca Doncic and I'm very glad that I don't gamble.

00:42.81
Adz
Yeah, that would be correct.

00:44.07
Russell Gibson
I'll be homeless.

00:46.60
Adz
um i did I didn't see this coming.

00:50.90
Russell Gibson
No.

00:51.16
Adz
I don't think the league saw this coming. I don't think LeBron saw this coming.

00:57.67
Russell Gibson
Apparently it wasn't discussed with any of the key people, which I'm going to say like before we start, I don't believe a word of that.

01:00.62
Adz
No, it's... um

01:05.07
Russell Gibson
There is no way that they, yeah.

01:06.01
Adz
There's something going on, and there's gonna be more that comes to light. um and And for those that have been um actually doing stuff during their Sunday and not checking social media, the big news is that Luca Doncic has been traded for Anthony Davis pretty much.

01:09.43
Russell Gibson
100%.

01:15.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:20.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:21.00
Adz
There's pieces around it, but the the nuts and bolts of it, it's, yeah.

01:25.31
Russell Gibson
So this is from Bobby Marks. He broke down the full trade with also the the dollars behind it.

01:29.91
Adz
Mm.

01:31.62
Russell Gibson
To the Lakers, Luca Maxi Kleber, 11 million this year and 11 million next year. Mark Heath Morris, 2.1 million. To Dallas, Anthony Davis, 43 million, 54, 58, 62.

01:44.50
Russell Gibson
Player option at the end, Max Christie, 7.1, 7.7, 8.3, 8.9. And I think for people at home, Max Christie is actually having a very sneaky, good season this year. So that's actually a nice little consolation prize. And to Utah, Jalen Hood, Shafino. And I've had a couple of people um actually say that they're going to miss him. So that's a bit of an interesting one for me, but.

02:09.87
Adz
Mmm Yeah, I think the the the Max Christie bit part of it was concerning because he's actually like but yeah, you said he's actually sneaky having a good season this year and um Yeah, I think that's a bit unfortunate that he needs to be the the pace I guess ah That makes this trade happen

02:16.70
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

02:21.12
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I gotta say though, I think when you're getting Luca, you're not going to be too dilly-delied about Max Christie though. i

02:38.99
Adz
Yeah, Max Christie. And this is, all right, so we can go back to, the first thing I heard is that it's the Dallas Mavericks that initiated the trade.

02:48.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

02:49.19
Adz
They're the ones that shopped Luca.

02:51.09
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

02:52.31
Adz
So, I mean, I was a bit shocked that they even considered trading AD, given what they were trying to build, but I mean, if any club, and like anyone gets the call saying, hey, Luca Doncic is up for trade,

03:08.42
Adz
Surely nobody hangs up the phone and everybody listens, right?

03:11.12
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So I believe that defense wins championships. Max GM, Max, Mavs GM, Nico Harrison told ESPN regarding his motivation to trade Luca Dontridge for Anthony Davis. I believe that getting an old defensive center and an all NBA player with a defensive mindset gives us a better chance. We're built to win now and in the future. So that is from at ESPN underscore McMahon. And that was shared on our page by Luke Patterson. So thank you very much for sharing that with us, Luke.

03:40.93
Adz
Yeah.

03:42.22
Russell Gibson
So I feel like, Oh, hang on a second incoming breaking news. Now Nico Harrison has been fired by the Dallas Mavericks. I think frankly, that's the next piece of breaking news. That's going to be coming.

03:52.16
Adz
Yeah there's gonna be something.

03:52.55
Russell Gibson
That's the, that guy, I mean, you can put defensive plays around Luca, but it's really hard to get a player of Lucas talent back. Like realistically, I'm going to ask you this, and I'm just going to go straight to your your reaction.

04:05.76
Russell Gibson
Who's better in the league at the moment than Luca in terms of playmaking and scoring SGA.

04:12.04
Adz
Well, everybody above him on the MVP race, right? they They're the pieces that I wouldn't trade for him.

04:17.64
Russell Gibson
So, OK, let's just say you're the Mavs. Who would you want to get back for Luca in an ideal world?

04:24.12
Adz
Wembley? Yarnas? Like, do you know what I mean? Like someone that's a cornerstone player.

04:28.57
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So when I read into that, are you saying something better than Anthony Davis?

04:37.03
Adz
I don't think I've ever been Anthony Davis's or as he has been known in previous seasons, Anthony Data Davis. um

04:44.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And that's a problem, too, with his injury history.

04:47.63
Adz
Yeah, like that it's it's it's been since he's been a Laker, it's always been the the Lakers will go as far as a healthy Anthony Davis will take them. And yeah, it's that's that's always been my my sort of take on AD is that he's great, but he just can't stay healthy.

04:57.84
Russell Gibson
Actually, yeah.

05:07.17
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

05:08.42
Adz
So, I don't know if anything, any of this is fun.

05:08.61
Russell Gibson
All right. Okay. I'm going to lead you into this and then we're going to do like a fun, um, quick quiz. Okay.

05:14.92
Adz
My brain is close to melting at the moment, but sure.

05:20.07
Russell Gibson
I think that's a like a perfect reaction, by the way. it's It's just so crazy, isn't it? But at the same time, I'm enjoying this.

05:25.15
Adz
It is, it is, it is, yeah.

05:25.81
Russell Gibson
Like, I love trade. So this for me, this is sick. All right. Okay. So my conspiracy theory is that it's absolute. There has to be something going on in the background. And also, there's already been reports that other teams in the league didn't even get a phone call.

05:39.67
Russell Gibson
So that means that They called the Lakers and said, let's get a deal done. What's the best you can offer us? Okay, great. It's going to be Anthony Davis. Okay, we've got a deal. And they've just taken it for Luca. So either he's demanded a trade, he's refused to sign the extension, or they wanted him to go to LA for some you know ridiculous reason. Okay, that's my current thinking about all of this. So let's just say that it was the opposite.

06:02.84
Russell Gibson
they had time to plan out a trade and go around the the league and ring every league. So I'm going to say players names and then you have to say whether you want Luca or player X that I say. And I'm going to go through the.

06:13.48
Adz
Okay, so um um you're putting Anthony David, we put the Lakers and we put an AD on the block.

06:18.03
Russell Gibson
No, we're putting Luca on the block and we're saying you've got Luca. Who's the best player you can get back for him?

06:23.19
Adz
Okay, so you're you're saying, will I say yes to the trade as the Mavericks?

06:23.90
Russell Gibson
All right.

06:26.34
Russell Gibson
Yeah, and I'm going to read off the players.

06:26.98
Adz
Yep.

06:27.70
Russell Gibson
All right, SGA.

06:28.25
Adz
Okay. Yes.

06:30.35
Russell Gibson
You take SGA or Luca.

06:34.54
Adz
Oh, do I have to choose who I take?

06:35.79
Russell Gibson
You have to choose. So I'm going to say like players and every time you have to choose between Luca and the person.

06:39.48
Adz
I'll take SGA.

06:40.76
Russell Gibson
SGA. Yannis.

06:41.56
Adz
Yep.

06:44.31
Adz
Oh, I have to think about it. I think I still take Yarnas.

06:49.48
Russell Gibson
Yep.

06:49.64
Adz
I might keep, no, I keep Luca.

06:51.53
Russell Gibson
Nicole Jokic.

06:51.80
Adz
He's older.

06:55.13
Adz
I keep yokage.

06:56.48
Russell Gibson
Tyrese Maxey.

06:58.86
Adz
Luca.

06:59.90
Russell Gibson
Yep. Kevin Duran, Jason Tatum.

07:02.85
Adz
Luca.

07:13.37
Adz
Yeah, I don't think I. All right, no, I don't know. I take Luca over Tatum.

07:23.23
Russell Gibson
Edwards, Anthony Edwards, Devin Booker.

07:24.57
Adz
I take Ant. Luca.

07:29.17
Russell Gibson
Anthony Davis.

07:34.21
Adz
and Anthony Davis is a weirdo. I think I take Luca.

07:37.13
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Jalen Brunson.

07:39.05
Adz
ah think i'd say I think take Luca.

07:39.97
Russell Gibson
I'm going to answer this one for you. The answer is Luca. Cade Cunningham.

07:43.96
Adz
Cade.

07:45.08
Russell Gibson
Whoa. That's wild.

07:47.42
Adz
I'm high, I'm and now i'm drink um'm um'm drinking the cool Cade at the moment, so yeah.

07:48.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah, you are. Yeah. Yeah. Damien Lillard. Has to be Luca.

07:55.45
Adz
look at like Luca, Luca.

07:56.87
Russell Gibson
Darren Fox.

08:00.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah, Wembley, obviously, Wembley, Karl-Anthony Towns.

08:02.87
Adz
Take wimpy, yeah.

08:06.37
Adz
Luca.

08:07.26
Russell Gibson
All right. We're up to 15 in the scoring leaders. I think that's good because I feel like there's more plays than just one that realistically could have been traded for Luca.

08:16.58
Adz
Sure, of course, of course.

08:17.39
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I don't think they maximise what they got back.

08:18.28
Adz
um

08:19.74
Russell Gibson
I think if you look at the Rudy Gobert trade, there's a strong argument to be made that actually the Jazz did better out of that.

08:29.07
Adz
I wanna know how, some there's something that's that's happened.

08:32.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah, 100%.

08:33.35
Adz
So, all right, can I can i give you a knee-jerk conspiracy theory?

08:38.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah, hell yeah, of course.

08:39.00
Adz
The medical staff are like, Luca's got a long-term problem that's gonna be very problematic.

08:43.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. Alright, so this is what the Jazz got for Rudy Gobert. Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverly, Leonardo Belmore.

08:53.85
Russell Gibson
Okay, that's fine. Walker Kesler, Jared Vanderbilt, a 2023 first round pick, a 2025 first round pick, a 26 pick swap, a 27 first round pick, and a 29 first round pick.

08:55.53
Adz
Mm-hmm.

09:05.63
Russell Gibson
I got to tell you, I would rather that than Anthony Davis. I'm not even saying that to be like, to be controversial either.

09:09.77
Adz
I don't, it's funny, because while processing, I'm trying, I'm taking in some socials and stuff like that. And it's it's interesting that there there's a lot of the stuff that the team Lebron wanted is what they've now got in Dallas. See the shooter in clay, the Kyrie at the point. Do you know what I mean? Like they've built they've manufactured everything, but it misses the the key piece, which is a Luca Aura Lebron.

09:38.87
Adz
It's just so funny.

09:40.00
Russell Gibson
It's so weird.

09:41.50
Adz
But i just I just, I don't know how this fits in LA, honestly.

09:41.86
Russell Gibson
um

09:45.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so that's my thing too. I feel like you've got two extremely bold dominant guys and

09:50.22
Adz
There's another trade, there has to be another trade coming.

09:52.50
Russell Gibson
Or, okay, or they're just planning for the the next generation after LeBron. And to me, that's the most obvious thing, like from the Lakers perspective, because my in my head, I was like, LeBron's going to be there, they won the chip together, which was awesome.

10:05.27
Russell Gibson
And then Anthony Davis will keep getting better, LeBron will sort of go into his twilight and then AD will take over and they'll get another piece to put with AD.

10:10.52
Adz
Mmm, yeah, yeah Sure,

10:12.48
Russell Gibson
That's what make would make sense to me that in my head. And I thought that If I'm looking at this trade, actually, I would prefer to have AD and Luca together. So you trade Lebron out.

10:22.84
Adz
yeah na No, no, no, but a bit but it's it's bit.

10:22.95
Russell Gibson
And I'm not trying to say that controversial. I'm just like, you know, pieces on the court. That makes sense to me. Yeah.

10:27.94
Adz
I mean the Lakers are saying yes to it because Lucas 25, right? How old's Anthony Davis?

10:32.26
Russell Gibson
Luca's 25, AD's 31.

10:34.46
Adz
Correct. So there's

10:35.25
Russell Gibson
So that's a major loss for me, again, for the maths. Like this is, it all to me is just super weird. It just doesn't make sense.

10:41.63
Adz
They had Luca as this young, young person of the future, one club guy, blah, blah, blah.

10:46.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

10:47.77
Adz
They've now got Anthony Davis, who's in his 30s, Clay Thompson, who's in the twilight of his career, Kyrie Irving, who's in the the over 30 club.

10:50.88
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

10:55.74
Adz
Like, do you know what I mean?

10:56.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

10:57.28
Adz
They've gone from this young team with potential to a team of vets that are gonna limp into the playoffs.

11:01.24
Russell Gibson
It's just, it is just absolutely insane.

11:05.11
Adz
One or two injuries in there and and they're cooked.

11:05.22
Russell Gibson
I really, yeah, it's really just hurting my head right now, just thinking about all this.

11:10.11
Adz
I don't know.

11:13.32
Russell Gibson
It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense at all.

11:14.97
Adz
Back in my mind, i I have no doubt now that there's another trade and I think it's something along the lines of like a Gabe Vincent for Valentine's kind of. Do you know what I mean?

11:25.81
Adz
Like a ah small for a big. Now the Lakers need a center.

11:31.33
Russell Gibson
Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah.

11:33.71
Adz
Right, Anthony Davis, Luke is not playing the five.

11:39.70
Adz
and we and And that's the um the thing, they're orchestrating their trades.

11:43.09
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

11:43.30
Adz
and Maybe, maybe one of those bigs is coming to l LA.

11:48.33
Russell Gibson
yeah Look, I think we have to talk card values here for a second because we we should talk about Anthony Davis and we should talk about Luca.

11:53.66
Adz
Mm.

11:56.41
Russell Gibson
I think that's the two biggest pieces in all of this. But my immediate reaction to this is that in the next two months, Luca is going to be like one of the hottest commodities because I think there's going to be some real hobby excitement around Luca in terms of people trying to pick him up more.

12:06.04
Adz
Yeah. La La Land.

12:15.09
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

12:15.26
Adz
Yep.

12:15.46
Russell Gibson
Moving into that, I think also for the ah future championship potential because

12:20.66
Adz
The Lakers like to win.

12:20.78
Russell Gibson
I think for, yeah, Lakers like to win. And as much as we like to hate on, well, let me rephrase that as much as I like to hate on the Lakers because they're always poaching players and they're building up good teams.

12:29.35
Adz
Yep.

12:31.18
Russell Gibson
That's what we hate them for is, you know, being front runners and, you know, winning all these championships. So I think in the back of people's minds, that has to be there in terms of you know, giving you some security behind your Luca purchases.

12:43.36
Russell Gibson
So looking at his PSA 10, so I've zoomed right in.

12:43.68
Adz
Yeah.

12:47.13
Russell Gibson
I've gone to the last two weeks. One sold yesterday and actually it's, it's already up a little bit. So it's going to be a little bit tricky, but in the last two weeks, he's already up 16%.

12:55.57
Adz
Mmm.

12:56.98
Russell Gibson
Actually, let's just zoom out a little bit because it's probably not a good sample size to do it like that.

12:59.57
Adz
It's not even gonna wait until next week. We're not gonna get an impact, right?

13:02.65
Russell Gibson
Look, actually, the last three months he's up, he's up 14 percent.

13:05.69
Adz
Yeah.

13:05.87
Russell Gibson
um The last month he's up 10 percent and the last two weeks he's up 16 percent. I honestly think this is going to skyrocket. I think there's going to be this sort of you know very short interim peak around that.

13:16.25
Russell Gibson
So, you know, you can look at this from two ways.

13:17.03
Adz
Yeah.

13:18.59
Russell Gibson
You can say, look, I'm going to stay out of this for a little while, just let the market cool down a little bit until, you know, things just sort of settle themselves down. Or you can say, look, I'm going to flip my cards out because there's going to be a lot of people. ah He's going to be liquid the next couple of weeks. I think that is definitely what's going to happen there. So I suppose what I would probably rather talk about is long term. I think this adds collectability to him long term. I think this is going to basically mean he's going to be on yeah ESPN every single day for the next 10 years.

13:48.65
Adz
He's now in the spotlight.

13:50.06
Russell Gibson
He's going to be in the spotlight and they're going to be putting teams around him to compete and to win every single year. There's going to be no down years for him. So maybe also to this changes his because then what's the knockup been on this guy that he's not in good shape? Maybe he's it's going to be the wake up call for him because allegedly Luca didn't know about this. It was like it was a shock for him.

14:10.05
Adz
Yeah, it was like, we're we're done with your nonsense, yeah.

14:13.49
Russell Gibson
I can't believe that he had that much nonsense. You trade the dude.

14:17.85
Adz
It's pretty crazy.

14:17.93
Russell Gibson
I can't wait to hear these stories.

14:21.16
Adz
we're go There's gonna be stuff happening. There's gotta be.

14:23.71
Russell Gibson
I can't wait to hear these stories.

14:25.60
Adz
because it it started was it the Was it the Philly game the Lakers played? And there's already conjecture on the other side saying Anthony Davis is faking an abductor strain.

14:38.30
Adz
So in order to force the Lakers hands to get a big. Like they were saying that though there were, there were suggestions that, that AD was putting it on to try and be difficult to try and cause he wants help with the five spot.

14:52.49
Russell Gibson
So I agree with that because he was doing interviews with Shams.

14:55.82
Adz
Yeah.

14:56.95
Russell Gibson
Shams, Shams, you know who I'm talking about here.

14:57.85
Adz
Shams. Yeah.

14:58.92
Russell Gibson
Yeah, the real one. And so I think he was definitely putting pressure on them from that point of view. But I don't think that influences this trade at all, because it doesn't matter how many times the like the Lakers call the Mavs offering Anthony Davis for Luca.

15:12.09
Russell Gibson
If they don't want to do that trade, this trade is not happening.

15:14.61
Adz
Yeah.

15:15.40
Russell Gibson
Like this was definitely the Mavericks calling the Lakers you know to get this done.

15:15.47
Adz
Yeah.

15:19.61
Russell Gibson
So let's quickly just go through socials and we're going to tie this off.

15:22.03
Adz
Yeah.

15:22.57
Russell Gibson
This is just going to be an emergency podcast. We're going to do our regular programming for this week.

15:24.66
Adz
Yep.

15:26.69
Russell Gibson
So this is from Mark Stein at the Stein Line, the Mavericks and Luka Doncic. Until tonight, we're heading towards a five-year contract extension in July worth a record $345 million.

15:35.00
Adz
Yep.

15:38.50
Russell Gibson
dollars Dallas GM Nico Harrison made the call to abruptly change direction of the franchise of one of the most stunning trades in league history. So for me, he's not really changing the direction. It's just setting it in the direction of Anthony Davis, because he's not getting enough back in terms of future assets to say, Oh, we're changing the direction of the franchise.

15:56.50
Russell Gibson
So that to me is super weird. But that also, I think, doubles down on your theory about he's got a really like terrible injury that's going on here.

16:04.99
Adz
It's got to be something.

16:06.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Um, this is from our Facebook group, Luke Patterson. How's Adam going? Adam, how are you doing, mate?

16:12.51
Adz
Oh, my head, my head is melted.

16:12.70
Russell Gibson
Are you okay?

16:15.60
Adz
Um, it's tough because I really want my team to win. And I know that Luke is only going to be renowned as a good player once he starts winning. So maybe, maybe my team's now more in a fates are intertwined.

16:24.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

16:31.19
Adz
I'm only gonna rag on him until we win a championship and then I'll be his best, his biggest advocate.

16:36.06
Russell Gibson
I was actually wondering to hear how your like your sort of tune was going to change if you were just going to be like all aboard the Luca bandwagon just like first day.

16:41.40
Adz
It's not, that not, not, not day one, just like his gear with 77.

16:44.46
Russell Gibson
You know what I mean? I was half expecting you. Yeah, just like wearing this huge Luca t-shirt, you know. Anthony Mill, NBA has done it. Silver has has done it. Silver is running the league like WWE. Look, you guys know I love conspiracy theories. I don't believe in this conspiracy theory. I think that's like Yeah, I think the players want to go to LA and it's as simple as that.

17:08.26
Russell Gibson
ah Adam, are you going to get a Luca Doncic jersey?

17:11.98
Adz
No, I am not.

17:13.03
Russell Gibson
Okay, that answers Anthony Mill's comment.

17:13.96
Adz
Not yet. Not yet.

17:15.34
Russell Gibson
Luke Batterson, we've covered that. Oivend, has someone checked on Adam? Yes, Oivend, I did message him before we went on for tonight's show. um Anthony Mill again, LA with no defense, 90% of the score is going to go through LeBron and and Luca.

17:26.33
Adz
But they've got they've got defense. They've got they've got Jared Vanderbilt.

17:30.22
Russell Gibson
And what's your thoughts? What's your thoughts on this team, Adam? I think you're the LA guy here.

17:32.99
Adz
I So we just dealt with the Knicks today in Madison Square Garden without Anthony Davis. And look, Max Christie was a big part of that.

17:40.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

17:42.33
Adz
I i think Max Christie is gonna be a bit of ah a glaring hole, because he is good on D. He locked Brunson down. um He really made life difficult for Brunson today.

17:52.44
Adz
so um And Josh Hart, I just, I don't know.

17:57.51
Russell Gibson
look, I love defense and I love basketball fundamentals, but at the end of the day, if you get Luca Doncic, you've won the trade. I don't think, what are we talking about?

18:03.82
Adz
Yeah, look, no AD today, we did a good job against New York. So, you know what I mean?

18:07.95
Russell Gibson
This is Luca Doncic, you know?

18:09.24
Adz
Like, I think the Lakers will will trade one of their smalls away to try and get another big, but long-term, it's sensible, right?

18:09.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

18:17.81
Adz
It's a 25-year-old, and unless there's a lot serious long-term injury with Luca, the upside is there for Luca. Anthony Davis keeps breaking fingernails and getting hurt, so.

18:29.80
Russell Gibson
but Let's just say that you are right about this theory and I love it if you are right, but I actually don't still care. I'm still going to say the Lakers have won this trade because Anthony Davis is injury prone anyway, and we've seen it with stars.

18:37.52
Adz
Sure.

18:42.32
Russell Gibson
They just need those one or two you know good years and they can pull out a championship.

18:44.45
Adz
a

18:45.72
Russell Gibson
He just has to be healthy for you know three months of the year.

18:48.62
Adz
Yeah, I mean, I saw, I was i was impressed with, I did like the Shay Middleton and Dorie Finney Smith, like that trade, and then Jared Vanderbilt's come back, and defensively, the Lakers have been so much better recently.

18:49.02
Russell Gibson
so

19:05.89
Adz
And then for this to happen, I'm like, well, we just lost our our centerpiece for our defense, which is AD.

19:14.41
Adz
I know, and that's the thing, when when when the Mavericks come calling and say, Luca Doncic is on the table, take it or leave it.

19:20.80
Russell Gibson
For Anthony Davis, and without giving out draft assets, like what the F honestly, there was one draft pick was there.

19:24.00
Adz
They gave up a dr draft pick.

19:29.00
Adz
The Lakers gave up their first round, 20-29 first round.

19:31.15
Russell Gibson
Okay.

19:34.21
Russell Gibson
Sure, but, sorry, did I read through what the jazz got back? Yeah, I read through that, didn't I?

19:39.87
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:40.79
Russell Gibson
For Rudy Gobeir, that many picks and one pick for Luca?

19:42.76
Adz
Oh yeah, yeah, I can't get it, but like Rudy Gobert, there wasn't like, do you know what I mean?

19:44.07
Russell Gibson
What the hell?

19:48.11
Adz
Like Anthony Davis is a top X player in the league, right?

19:48.47
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

19:53.07
Russell Gibson
Sure. He's injured.

19:54.43
Adz
So we know Luca is a top is a top five on his day, right?

19:58.82
Russell Gibson
And younger.

20:00.08
Adz
Sure.

20:00.79
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

20:00.83
Adz
And and Anthony Davis is, I'd say a top 15 player then, right?

20:04.94
Russell Gibson
so Yeah, Yeah.

20:05.25
Adz
Sluts into the top 10 fairly frequently. But health has been the biggest um concern. I just, I worry, and this is the only worry about the Lucas situation, is if it's a Kawhi Leonard level soft tissue thing that's gonna ruin his career.

20:20.12
Russell Gibson
Yeah, sure. Sure.

20:22.62
Adz
And then the the it comes out the Dallas and Masterminds and it completely stooges the Lakers. I don't know, I don't know had to i don't how to support Luca coming to l LA.

20:34.18
Adz
It's gonna be interesting.

20:35.73
Russell Gibson
I mean, I know what you're getting for Christmas.

20:36.31
Adz
I'm like, um now I want him to win.

20:38.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

20:39.68
Adz
um I still don't think he's worth anything until he does.

20:40.47
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

20:45.07
Adz
Card wise, that is. um It's gonna be an interesting roster change. I don't know. phil I feel like the Lakers have got something. They've got a few days left in the trade period. We will see.

20:55.18
Russell Gibson
What a trade period. There's always one star a year that gets traded and you just have to keep some assets around for when teams come calling it.

20:56.51
Adz
It's got something crazy that happens, yeah.

21:02.99
Russell Gibson
And what an absolute.

21:04.85
Adz
um

21:06.60
Russell Gibson
steal for the Lakers. Congratulations to the Lakers. Alrighty, let's finish this off with...

21:10.62
Adz
um I've just got comments in the in the live chat because Anthony Milne is just here for the trade talk.

21:13.27
Russell Gibson
Hit me.

21:15.82
Adz
Hashtag, you can't go up this.

21:15.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

21:17.51
Adz
um Anthony Milne's like, I think Mavs win the trade with better defensive players and similar numbers replacing Luca. I'm like, I don't know if I agree. I think they're one injury away from a nightmare season Dallas, but they haven't had a great season so far anyway.

21:32.92
Adz
um

21:32.94
Russell Gibson
I think getting, I think getting an older player back and very limited draft assets, I think this is where I'm really struggling with Luca. Honestly, like if you're going to give him up, like, do you know what they should have done?

21:40.62
Adz
Yeah, they've they've gone all in on Clay though. Do you know what I mean? Like they've tried to get these veterans to...

21:46.03
Russell Gibson
They should have called o OKC and said, we want 25 first round picks for Luca. Seriously.

21:54.19
Adz
that's If you want draft pick assets back, yeah, but if you want ready mate, I guess you're going for...

21:58.57
Russell Gibson
They could give them a package of some, you know what I mean? Like, I just.

22:01.65
Adz
Yeah, but there's a lot of clubs as we were chatting before that say no, right? So I think AD is the one that they they think they could get a yes out of.

22:05.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

22:10.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah, okay.

22:11.31
Adz
What else?

22:12.25
Russell Gibson
I think he was anyway. Yeah, go go through the comments.

22:14.09
Adz
ah Anthony's also gone. l LA is nowhere near a championship um with that that team the team they had with AD.

22:21.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

22:21.94
Adz
So this is a good move for the Lakers.

22:24.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

22:25.01
Adz
Mavs are now in a good, have a good run to win it all. And the next season with the lineup they've got there. I don't necessarily agree.

22:30.76
Russell Gibson
Okay.

22:32.34
Adz
um I think they're an injury or two away from a bad season.

22:35.46
Russell Gibson
I think Kyrie would have to score 35 a game and not have a day off.

22:39.69
Adz
Yeah, but Anthony Milne said that the Mavs are sort of one move away now rather than, yeah.

22:40.38
Russell Gibson
Right?

22:44.69
Russell Gibson
They have to do something else. If they're serious about winning now, then yeah.

22:47.81
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Ace in space. I like Adam's theory on Luca having an injury. um Yeah, he never gets recovery time and he thinks that the Lakers have definitely won.

22:58.25
Adz
And Anthony Milne's last comment was KD jumping into the Lakers.

23:05.22
Russell Gibson
That would be sick.

23:09.41
Adz
This may make the all-star weekend Greg Howell at the end. Yeah, that's a good point. This could be a very entertaining or very, ah very yeah, the weekend would be very awkward. I like that.

23:19.87
Russell Gibson
Maybe there's gonna be some hard D and some chippy fouls. I would like to see that.

23:23.67
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

23:24.68
Russell Gibson
Does AD just like smashing Lebron?

23:25.08
Adz
so So just a good old fashioned bitchiness with one another bit upset, like take it out on the floor and they'll pick their teams and they'll be against each other.

23:26.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's alright.

23:35.15
Russell Gibson
flagrant foul Lebron in an all-star game. That'll be delicious. Alrighty, let's finish this off. Card Ladder. Amazing timing. Congratulations Card Ladder on this. Eye Catching Sale 2018 Prism Luka Doncic.

23:48.59
Russell Gibson
Sensational Signatures Black Gold, I love these black golds, numbered to 10. BGS 10 Autograph 10, sold for $22,900.

23:57.64
Adz
Nice.

23:57.72
Russell Gibson
I think in the context of everything that we've just said, this is an absolute steal, so congratulations to the buyer on this one. I'm not normally high on prism autographs, but the black golds are, you know, a different kettle fish altogether, so.

24:06.06
Adz
Yeah. Different kettle of fish for sure.

24:13.46
Russell Gibson
All right, guys, I think at this note, we're going to end this. This was supposed to be a 15 minute pod, so we've already stretched it out to 25 minutes. We're actually going to be doing our regular programming. If you're listening to this in the podcast format, our regular programming is going to come out on Wednesday just to give all the listeners sort of a couple of days to digest and break this down.

24:33.31
Adz
but the regular pod is on its way. I'm gonna go and take some heart medication just to make sure I'm, yep, yep.

24:37.96
Russell Gibson
Come back, have a deep breath, and we'll reboot for some backyard breaks.

24:40.76
Adz
And then we'll do the the the regular pod.

24:43.07
Russell Gibson
yeah

24:43.27
Adz
um Yeah, yeah, I'm i'm not by buying a Luca Dodge jersey. That's as far as I can answer everybody.

24:50.19
Russell Gibson
I'm going to message your missus as soon as I get off this pod and tell her what you want for Christmas.

24:50.56
Adz
um

24:54.10
Adz
Well, my birthday is only a few days away. I'm gonna knock off one already.

24:57.23
Russell Gibson
All right.

24:58.35
Adz
First, hot off the press.

25:00.06
Russell Gibson
Oh, yeah.

25:00.88
Adz
Oh, goodness. um Let's not.

25:01.81
Russell Gibson
Fanatics custom.

25:05.37
Adz
Get a Dallas one. God. All right, guys. um Yeah, thanks for listening to us for the emergency pod. We'll be back soon to regularly scheduled programming.

25:15.29
Russell Gibson
Shout out Central Coast Radio.