You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
Episode 196: SGA vs Jokic, Prizm Review & Panini vs Fanatics
This week, we dive into the MVP-level showdown between Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Nikola Jokic—how do their games compare, and what does Jokic’s insane 30-20-20 stat line mean for the MVP race?
Giannis is adding a reliable midrange jumper to his game—he’s now shooting 47% from that range, better than some of the league’s best!
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We also review this year’s Prizm parallel checklist and the latest updates on the Panini vs. Fanatics lawsuit.
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Adz
That's fine. All right, cool. Welcome, everybody, to episode 196 of the You Can't Cop This NBA Trading Card Podcast.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
We are your hosts, Adam Amey and Russell Gibson. ah Russell is on the line. He is not away for the week. It's not going to solo episode for those playing along on the video. Russell, how are you?
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, good, mate. Just the um the joys of living in you know the 21st century and not having internet. It's just super weird, isn't it?
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Adz
wait We could have made it seem like you're in this undisclosed location and just like super secret, low low internet coverage.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
well We'll stick with that story. Anyway.
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Russell Gibson
I mean, that's more entertaining than having intermittent internet, isn't it?
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Adz
it Yeah. and The internet's it'd been dropping internet.
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Adz
ah Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Anyway, that's all good.
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Adz
Due to Melbourne's crazy weather. Yeah, exactly. Basketball. This is what we where everybody's here to listen to.
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Adz
Basketball talk. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
We're not here to talk about that. And, you know, we're not here to talk about my frustrations with life. We just want to talk about some hardcore, hard porn, don't we really?
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Adz
Pretty much. I mean, I've got my own frustrations with with think the the basketball at the moment, but it's okay.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
It's going to be okay.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
LeBron will come back.
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Russell Gibson
I hope he comes back.
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Adz
All right. me or what Yeah, me too. I think the Lakers have done some had some interesting games, but without LeBron, they are a very different unit. But they're missing a lot more than just LeBron.
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Russell Gibson
So we actually have that in this week's sheet.
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Adz
so But they're not the...
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Russell Gibson
Do you want to talk about that now? Now you've you've talked about it and you've sort of introduced it.
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Adz
The injury.
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Russell Gibson
Why don't we just, yeah.
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Russell Gibson
So report.
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Adz
Let's unpack the um the joy.
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Adz
yeah for it.
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Russell Gibson
LeBron James expected to miss time after suffering a groin injury versus the Celtics. the Los Angeles star, doesn't believe this latest injury is as severe as the groin injury he suffered in 18 when he missed 17 games. So that's basically eluding.
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Russell Gibson
So there's about 20 games left in the season. So what that means in my head is he's expecting to come back before the the playoffs begin. But the funny thing is, and actually the Lakers have crept up on me this year, that the actually they could lose a few games and still be in the playoffs and not even be in the play-in either. So
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Russell Gibson
I'm actually, I've got my reservations about the Lakers, but at the same time, I'm also quite optimistic about them too.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Like if you can rest LeBron until the playoffs, you know, maybe stretch out his recovery time just that little bit longer if they're doing well, Luka can take over and, you know, get a bit more established and a bit more comfortable.
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Russell Gibson
um This is not all, but in my head, this is not all bad for the Lakers. You know, LeBron missing a little bit of time and then coming back for the playoffs fresh, right?
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Adz
Yeah, it's not too much gloom.
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Russell Gibson
So...
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Adz
Yeah, true.
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Russell Gibson
So I think we...
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Adz
it's not been I suppose the problem for the Lakers is is it's not just LeBron. Rui's injured. Austin Reeves is carrying an injury. like they're They're starting to come unraveled, and injuries are probably the most plaguing thing for any NBA team.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
It's that time of year, isn't it?
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Adz
So, yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
i For me, I feel like when I watch the Lakers, it seems to me like your five spot is where you're suffering the most with injuries. It just seems like... Even if Jackson Hayes was back and he was playing well, that would just be a major you know plus for that team, I feel.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
but yeah How are you feeling about the Lakers this year?
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Adz
Well, Hayes and Rui, like both of them, having all of our big options gone is is pretty pretty telling.
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Russell Gibson
I think we should give you two seconds on this and then we'll move on.
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Adz
i'm I'm enjoying what I'm saying. I'm adapting to life with Luka. um for all those that that do follow along quite regularly, no, this hasn't changed my view on the fact that Luca is overvalued and until he wins something, shouldn't be given the, I don't know, the praise he's earned it.
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Adz
So Luca still, as amazing he hasn't won a championship, hasn't won an MVP. And I don't think his value is going to be reflected until he he wins. Now, This winning thing is ah is aligned with what I want.
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Adz
So he's hoping that Luka becomes the the player ah that we all want him to be because I would very much like to see the Lakers win another chip.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. yeah
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Anyway.
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Russell Gibson
I can't say that i really want to see the Lakers win another chip just because I hate the sort of the front running that they do. But at the same time, i think LeBron is...
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Adz
You want see Luka succeed?
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Russell Gibson
I'd love to see Luka get a championship. And I think the theater around that too is going to be epic. And then also too, with LeBron... there There's something to me about someone sticking it out the way that he has.
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Russell Gibson
i Look, if he gets another one, I really think he deserves it. you know he's He's had a lot of losses. I'm not saying that to trash the guy. like To me, that's more about his perseverance and how he's dedicated his you know his life and his body to basketball, basically.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
so
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Adz
Mm-hmm.
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Russell Gibson
i think in true UConn comp this fashion, though, Ad, we do need to talk some LeBron cards. I found one which is completely random. 2018 Optic. LeBron James card number 94 purple.
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Adz
Oh wow, that is a bit different.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, well, I thought we'd talk about this one just because of the color match. So it's got him in the Los Angeles gold with then the contrasting purple in the background.
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Adz
Mm, very nice.
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Adz
Okay.
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Russell Gibson
PSA 10, the pop on this is $120. Now, what I wanted to talk about this is the sale prices. So this is the last two years of sales. And basically, it's gone from $140 all the way down $37.
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Russell Gibson
all the way down to thirty seven dollars And now it's currently trading at 129 again. So i think what this says to me is that even in today's market where you've got someone as important and as liquid as LeBron, there is still a lot of variation in there.
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Russell Gibson
So that to me says two things.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
you know Sometimes you don't need to panic sell. And the other thing too is you need to be alert for bargains when they do come up because I would hazard a guess
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Adz
Yep.
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Russell Gibson
that these were sales that were sold by auction. And I could not imagine they were, you know, buy it now prices. Like that's not the eBay thing to do at all. So yeah, I just think set your alerts, you know, focus on some cards that you want to.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
I've got too many alerts set on eBay, but definitely every now and again, you know something will come up I'm interested in. That's a really great price. And I just basically scoop it up.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
I think that's a, you know, takeaway message there.
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Adz
I have to say I do like the colour match.
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Russell Gibson
All right. We've already.
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Adz
The purple colour match is a good one.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right, Adam, in and again, in true UCANN comp this form, we have already segued. So let's get back to the sheet. And the first thing I had in the sheet this week was Jokic versus SGA. So the Nuggets and OKC played back-to-back game this week.
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Russell Gibson
And I watched both of the games. I personally think that there's a strong argument to be made. You know, this is the two best teams in basketball at the moment. So this, for me, was a fantastic case study.
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Russell Gibson
The first game wasn't, I would say, as entertaining as the second. So if you haven't watched either of the games, you want to go back and watch it. Even if you watched the 15-minute recap, it's really good entertaining ah basketball laid out there for you.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
And so my takeaways from that was that at the end of the day, it was a pretty high-scoring game, which I actually thought that would have favored OKC more than Denver. But actually, in the end, in the second game, this is what we're talking about now,
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Adz
yeah
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Russell Gibson
um The Nuggets had a lot more gas. So my sort of observation was that the Nuggets were more consistent about generating good offense and open shots.
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Russell Gibson
And I actually felt as though OKC struggled a little bit because I feel as though often their offense is fueled by their defense or sort of fueled through transition or even sort of like semi-transition sort of opportunities.
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Russell Gibson
But the Nuggets did a really good job of taking that away.
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Adz
Yeah. Yep.
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Russell Gibson
And then when they sort of got down to the half court, actually, I felt like the offense was a little bit predictable.
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Adz
yeah
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Russell Gibson
And so that to me was, you know, if I'm summarizing this game in sort of two sentences, that was my takeaway from it. But you can't go past Nicole Jokic's line here, 15 or 20 from the floor, four or five from the free throw line, 18 rebounds, eight assists, a steal and a block, you know, just insane numbers.
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Russell Gibson
We've got another box score that we're going to talk about Jokic in a second. So I think Yeah, just this absolutely insane. So this was, for me, the perfect opportunity just to take these guys head to head.
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Russell Gibson
Now, let's start with SGA, though, because when we're looking, so this is from our Instagram page.
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Adz
Yeah. Well, they went back to back. It's so it's hilarious.
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Russell Gibson
If you don't follow us, please.
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Russell Gibson
What's that, mate?
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Adz
yeah Give us a... i said It's just ironic that they they went head to head and back to back.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, they do that sometimes. And sometimes they also do it to like home and away. So then you actually sort of have like a true, you know, head to head matchup, which actually i kind of like stuff like that sometimes, that quirky sort of stuff they play into the fixture.
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Adz
ah
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
So SGA at the moment is absolutely skyrocketing. So he's currently at 1,550. I think if we're talking about the hottest card in basketball, in my opinion, this is the card at the moment. it is just on an absolute heater.
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Russell Gibson
So looking at the timeline of this, basically that's like the last three months. I'm pretty sure that's what I did for that. um That is just about tripled in value. You know, it's just absolutely just skyrocketed.
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Adz
and Yeah. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
And we were talking about this card at a sort of $500 mark.
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Adz
Mm-hmm.
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Russell Gibson
And my recollection of my opinion was that was like, oh, I don't know about this. You know, that seems a little bit high for me you know You know, where is this going to end up? So I couldn't have been more wrong about this, but I'm really happy for people that have been holding SGA for a long time.
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Russell Gibson
you know This is lovely to have your collection increase on that sort of percentage base. But I've got to say, people who are jumping into it now, I'm going to reflect what I said earlier. like For me, this is a really, it's a tread easy thing.
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Russell Gibson
And my feeling about this card is that people are betting on him winning the MVP.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
What do you think is pushing his card value up, Ed?
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Adz
I think you just hit the nail on the head. I'm a very, everybody knows my opinion. And I think I touched on earlier with Luca paying for future pricing.
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Adz
And this is the thing I get it.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.
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Adz
Um, but they they they're paying for the card as if he's already won the MVP. Now, I don't know if they noticed that there's another bloke on the court in those two games, and we just touched on him called Nikola Jokic, and what happens if OKC go out in the second round?
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Adz
What happens if something goes wrong, and it's I think they're paying Thunder have won the chip and sda has won an MVP prices already.
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Russell Gibson
So do you think people are betting on the Thunder winning a chip or MVP or both?
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Adz
Like, I think... In Anticipate, yeah, I think they're both. I think they've they've embedded success into the price when they've said, yep, I'm prepared to pay $1,500 for that card.
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Adz
And look, I'm happy to be proved wrong, and it's just an opinion, but I've got the same gripe when it comes to Luka.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
um I've got people saying this guy's going to be a multiple MVP winner, i win multiple chips, and he's won nothing. So what happens when that doesn't eventuate, if that doesn't eventuate?
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Adz
My thought is the card plummets.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:16:04.70
Adz
but just It's a buyer beware.
00:16:04.56
Russell Gibson
I mean, Luca is a separate conversation altogether.
00:16:06.70
Adz
I'll double down. oh When we talked, I remember we were talking about it going up and and I said I wasn't ah wasn't overly keen. I would put it Look, around that, Jason Tatum being the the the barometer, so to speak.
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Adz
I'm like, yeah, this year he sent himself into that stratosphere at that superstar level.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.
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Adz
So that's 600 to 800 range.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
So 700, 750, no problem with. Skyrocketing past Luke at a 1500, I think is is premature.
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Russell Gibson
I think it says a lot about the hobby, just the way that, you know, things can really catch fire and how you can, you know, catch lightning in a bottle in some instances. But at the same time too, I think for me, it also says a lot too about how, you know, people's interests do change.
00:16:51.02
Adz
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
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Russell Gibson
So for example, a while back Zion was the flavor of the month and then you know, we've had Wemby being the flavor of the month and we've had Jar Morant being flavor of the month for a little bit too.
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Russell Gibson
So this, for me, I feel like this is just the current flavor.
00:17:08.98
Adz
yeah
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Russell Gibson
So, you know, maybe what you can do now is look at, say, look at Wemby's trends. Maybe you can look at Zion's trends and use that as maybe a bit of a barometer to see, you know, where SGA is going to go.
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Russell Gibson
But, you know, I think if we're taking this back, so I feel like for me, SGA is like just too risky to jump into, you Yo kick, I'm just kicking myself so hard at the moment.
00:17:31.12
Russell Gibson
So that's currently trading at 3,700. feel like I've been talking about buying a yo kick for about 12 months and I just never pulled the trigger on it.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
So that's, that's completely my own fault. And I just basically just didn't have big enough balls as to do it. And, you know, I've missed that train. I feel like I've missed that train now. I probably need to move on to something else, but,
00:17:49.37
Adz
Oh, yeah.
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Russell Gibson
You know, you touched on this. This is what I do want to talk to you about now that you brought it up is Tatum. I think we really need to take a really long, hard look at Tatum and say, look, what does this guy need to do do to make him a more viable hobby candidate?
00:18:05.17
Russell Gibson
And actually, is he the smart man's buy at the moment? Because I don't think that SGA is a better purchase than Tatum and Tatum. and
00:18:15.48
Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
you know You could almost make an argument that Luca is not a better purchase than Tatum either at this point in time. Yeah.
00:18:24.98
Adz
Yeah, I actually, ah as much as I don't want to give too many kudoes our kudos to the Boston Celtics, they're in a ripper position right now.
00:18:35.65
Adz
And I think they are poised to to go to go on a deep run.
00:18:36.71
Russell Gibson
yeah And no one's talking about them either.
00:18:40.27
Adz
And if they go back to back,
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:18:43.80
Adz
I do think the one thing that's lacking and it's, and I harp on about success and yep, he's got the championship, but he needs to be the best guy. He needs to be noticed as the best guy on that team.
00:18:55.02
Adz
And this year he's doing it
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Russell Gibson
yeah
00:18:56.98
Adz
Don't get me wrong. But last year when they won the chip, Jalen Brown outshone him. And I think that's actually hurt his hobby credibility.
00:19:08.14
Adz
I don't think long-term it will hurt it, but I think last year it took it out of the spotlight and people didn't realize. And I think he needs to win an MVP or a finals MVP to really, really um put himself back on the map. He needs to, don't know, be more front and center.
00:19:24.04
Russell Gibson
don't know. i yeah. Okay. Look, I don't really want to have that MVP debate again. I actually think he got ripped off pretty bad on that, but that's okay. We can, um we can let that one ride.
00:19:32.53
Adz
Yeah, but bit but is but the fact that it happened, I think has impacted his hobby value.
00:19:36.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:19:39.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:19:39.92
Adz
Because that's what gets documented in history, right?
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:19:42.32
Adz
There's not many people, like, when you open that door of looking back in time, not as many people were in the moment and said, oh, Jalen Brown robbed Tatum of the finals MVP.
00:19:47.71
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:19:54.45
Adz
Right? Do you know what i mean?
00:19:55.42
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:19:56.20
Adz
Like it's the the glasses that we look at, look at history with are very different to the ones in the present moment. So I think that's going to impact his hobby value.
00:20:04.22
Russell Gibson
So, yeah. So speaking of the looking back in time, do you think that the fact that Jokic has already won three MVPs is influencing people's um vote for SGA this year?
00:20:14.81
Adz
The SGA argument.
00:20:17.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:20:17.76
Adz
I think it does. And I don't think that's fair. But i did I think it did.
00:20:21.50
Russell Gibson
but Do you think that's the optics?
00:20:23.69
Adz
Yes, this should be his fifth one.
00:20:24.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:20:25.61
Adz
dont du well let's not ah I'll go on a tirade in a minute about how Joel Embiid did not deserve an MVP.
00:20:32.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah,
00:20:33.38
Adz
Jokic should be getting his fifth one.
00:20:35.38
Russell Gibson
yeah. yes And so i think in NBA history, it seems to me actually this is a theme through NBA history because there's like heaps some more obvious ones. like
00:20:43.26
Adz
Yeah.
00:20:43.06
Russell Gibson
Shaq probably should have won at least one more. Kobe should have won at least one more.
00:20:47.37
Adz
Yep.
00:20:47.79
Russell Gibson
I personally think the two MVPs that Jordan didn't get to Karl Malone, would say that's on par with the Nicole Jokic snub. So...
00:20:58.67
Adz
Yeah.
00:21:00.19
Russell Gibson
It is something that does sort of seem to be a bit of a recurring theme through NBA history. Hey, just really quickly, there's one more line I just wanted to talk to you about. So this is versus the Phoenix Suns. Jokic is the first player to have a 30-20-20 triple-double.
00:21:10.47
Adz
Oh. That's insane.
00:21:14.82
Russell Gibson
ah the
00:21:15.42
Adz
it so It was in OT, but...
00:21:15.65
Russell Gibson
And the Nuggets won to hundred and forty one But just those numbers, like 20 assists for a center. He's just... Yeah, so i think you can say...
00:21:25.52
Adz
He's a freak of nature.
00:21:27.45
Russell Gibson
Even if you say, okay, SGA is the most valuable player of this season, my gut feeling is the best player, though, is Jokic. And there's actually maybe a strong argument to be made that Jokic's number one, Giannis is number two, and then maybe SGA is number three, but he's called the MVP.
00:21:37.81
Adz
I agree.
00:21:46.27
Russell Gibson
So there's that weird sort of argument in that space, though, too.
00:21:50.79
Adz
I completely, yeah, no, that makes sense to me. I i think there's,
00:21:53.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:21:56.44
Adz
i think maybe because of OKC's success this year,
00:22:00.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:22:01.76
Adz
um He's being sort of the spotlight's been shone on him. And yeah, sure, there's things that go towards that MVP play has to play for a good team, like good stats, good team kind of thing.
00:22:06.19
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:22:15.32
Adz
But Jokic isn't playing for a play-in team at the moment. They're theyre second. Like they're next in line.
00:22:21.18
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:22:23.54
Adz
So in my eyes, it's Jokic.
00:22:24.09
Russell Gibson
already
00:22:25.26
Adz
So...
00:22:27.47
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I'm with you too. I think he should get it, but doesn't always play out like that. Alrighty, mate, let's go to a break.
00:22:32.98
Adz
Can't always get me one. Yep.
00:22:35.09
Russell Gibson
We are going to start off with GTI. So thank you very much, GTI, for your support. GTI actually stands for Game Time International. So if you'd like to buy some of the best mags in the hobby, go onto their website, gametimeinternational.com.
00:22:52.23
Russell Gibson
They ship international. There's no issues at the at all. GTI are an independent company. They're a true collector's brand. They also would like to present themselves as an alternative to getting every card graded. What they would like to present this product to you as is a perfect product that you can present your cards in that looks very aesthetically pleasing.
00:23:13.30
Russell Gibson
It's better than just a regular mag. There's a sleeve inside of it. The other thing about it too is that they when you purchase it out of the pack, there's a thin layer of plastic you need to pull off. So when you do pull it off, the clear plastic on the top is just absolutely seamless and it's flawless.
00:23:30.98
Russell Gibson
No flaws. The sleeve never wrinkles. That's something they've somehow worked out with their technology and their development.
00:23:35.07
Adz
Mmm.
00:23:36.84
Russell Gibson
No unwanted card movement. Customer service focus, dedicated to collector satisfaction. Manufacturer relations, that's all on the back end. Consistency, top tier quality, and just the best in the hobby.
00:23:49.61
Russell Gibson
Amen to that. I love their products. I've been using their products before we had a sponsorship. And actually, the reason why i reached out to them to try and work out a partnership is because of my love for the product. so Thank you very much for supporting the show GTI.
00:24:03.89
Russell Gibson
We're looking forward to working with you into the future.
00:24:13.14
Russell Gibson
All righty, we're back. How are you buddy?
00:24:15.53
Adz
We are back and I am good to go for the next round.
00:24:19.51
Russell Gibson
What is your favorite purchase in your collection?
00:24:26.01
Adz
Is this um is this ah and and a question to the audience? Is that a question to me?
00:24:32.35
Russell Gibson
Not a trick question. it's a ah It's a question to you, sir.
00:24:34.78
Adz
oh Oh, my favourite purchase would have to, look one of many of my Kobe's, I guess.
00:24:40.17
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:24:44.68
Adz
um
00:24:45.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:24:47.81
Adz
Yeah, I guess the the purchase of the Topps Chrome. So I bought Topps Chrome. Nothing, yeah, nothing crazy about the card. It's ah it's a Kobe rookie and it's one of my prized possessions.
00:25:00.36
Adz
So yeah, favorite purchase, yep.
00:25:03.53
Russell Gibson
So I think for a while i was going to say my Fox NT RPA, but actually I'm considering selling that. So I think automatically that then gets removed from being my favorite card.
00:25:12.87
Adz
Yeah.
00:25:14.17
Russell Gibson
I was looking through my box the other day and I'm actually going to say something that surprises me, but like hear me out for a second. It's my Bob Cousy Timeless Moments. I think the Timeless Moments cards in hand, not every single one, obviously, but just ah like amazing in hand.
00:25:25.40
Adz
Nice, yeah, yeah.
00:25:30.04
Russell Gibson
This particular one has got this old school photo of him. He's taken a lot of time to autograph it, you know, really nicely.
00:25:37.09
Adz
Yeah.
00:25:37.10
Russell Gibson
It's a big, thick silver marker, which, you know, some people would like that. Some people don't. I just think it works really well with the card. And it's just something about that card, almost the mystique of it, I suppose. is not It's not that there's no Bob Cousy autos out.
00:25:48.56
Adz
Yeah.
00:25:49.50
Russell Gibson
Like, of course there is. You know, they're pretty easy to pick up, but it's just this whole sort of, you know, he's getting a bit older now.
00:25:52.55
Adz
Yeah.
00:25:55.16
Russell Gibson
They had this amazing dynasty. It's the the cards in the one touch. It's the, anyway, look, I just really love it. And,
00:26:03.04
Adz
Yeah.
00:26:02.74
Russell Gibson
That's my favorite one. Shaq Fu. For me, it was finally picking up a Dunk and Go Nuts Shaq as a kid could never afford an EX century, let alone buy the insert by itself.
00:26:09.60
Adz
Yeah.
00:26:13.65
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's that's awesome, mate. Thank you very much for contributing. We didn't get a lot on this one. So that's actually a bit of a short and sweet one. ad We can move on to our next topic of today.
00:26:24.35
Adz
Well, I was going to say, i'm given you want to talk about your Fox RPA, you realize that De'Aaron Fox is out for the rest of the season. Not that the San Antonio Spurs are making a playoff run. Yeah.
00:26:34.41
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so I think he needed surgery at some point this year. And my impression was it's a type of injury that if he was really needed to play, well, he has been playing through it.
00:26:39.25
Adz
Yeah.
00:26:44.93
Russell Gibson
so But I think they're at the point now where the Spurs are probably more interested in getting Cooper flagged than stretching out Darren Fox for two more games or something like that.
00:26:53.56
Adz
Yeah.
00:26:55.22
Russell Gibson
So that to me is sort of makes sense on that one.
00:26:56.63
Adz
Yeah, I was also going to say, I was going to make light of the fact that it's his pinky finger that's being operated on.
00:27:05.03
Russell Gibson
I mean, you need your pinky finger, man. It's like an important card.
00:27:08.06
Adz
That's true. I just, i was like, is it season-ending knee surgery? Is it it like an Achilles?
00:27:13.26
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:27:13.69
Adz
No, no, no. It's his pinky finger.
00:27:15.37
Russell Gibson
He'll be right. he' He'll be totally fine. All righty. This next one is Can You Comp This For Me? A 1996 Bowman's Best Kobe Bryant PSA 9. Population on this is insane. 4,000 plus. Paid 175 AUD for it.
00:27:29.88
Adz
It's a lot.
00:27:29.53
Russell Gibson
paid one hundred and seventy five aud for it
00:27:33.34
Adz
Okay.
00:27:33.81
Russell Gibson
would you hold it, roll it, or buy another one?
00:27:38.97
Adz
At that price, I'd hold it.
00:27:40.57
Russell Gibson
Price, $175. Yeah.
00:27:42.87
Adz
Yeah, I'd hold it. I'd hold it. Like, it's it's not going to go down. um But it's it's probably slightly over Cobbs.
00:27:54.06
Adz
I don't know if we've got... Hang on. I've got Card Ladder.
00:27:56.53
Russell Gibson
So I checked comps just before I bought it, and actually it had been sitting around the I think it was about the $100 mark. Then it jumped up. Like that had quite a stiff spike just before I purchased it.
00:28:06.93
Adz
and okay
00:28:10.41
Russell Gibson
So i think I got it for about $40 below comps technically. But if you take out that sort of high aberrant comp, I probably paid a little bit over. So if you sort of average it out, I'm probably around, you know, what it should be.
00:28:24.83
Russell Gibson
I might have overpaid just a little bit, but, you know, we're not talking much, but it definitely fluctuates a little bit. So that's probably something I just need to keep
00:28:31.06
Adz
It's one of those, yeah.
00:28:32.49
Russell Gibson
Keep in mind a bit, you know, it's going to go up, it's going to go down, you know.
00:28:35.56
Adz
What is it? PSA 9.
00:28:36.01
Russell Gibson
ah PSA 9, so there's a lot of them too.
00:28:38.39
Adz
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:39.45
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:28:40.03
Adz
yeah Okay. Okay. Yeah.
00:28:41.09
Russell Gibson
So, free Dizzle trading cards. Great looking card. Congratulations. I think you overpaid a little bit. 80 to 100 USD. Seems fair. Definitely since it's PC.
00:28:51.70
Russell Gibson
Definitely not PC for me, but yeah, it'll be fine. Lift off cards. That's a hold for sure. Even if it never goes up more. What a cool piece and absolute legend of the game. Yeah. That's the other I have no Kobe rookie.
00:29:02.71
Russell Gibson
So this is really a bit of a first for me too, sort of just getting a cheap entry level level Kobe.
00:29:04.27
Adz
Yeah.
00:29:09.35
Adz
yeah
00:29:09.03
Russell Gibson
I feel pretty happy about that. yeah Do we need to talk about that anymore or are we pretty well done?
00:29:14.85
Adz
um um'm I'm happy with it.
00:29:14.74
Russell Gibson
Actually, wait, on Facebook? No, on Facebook, we've got a couple more. Do you want to read them or you want me to get into it?
00:29:18.76
Adz
good Yeah, sure. So um um've I've got Al Canes.
00:29:24.45
Russell Gibson
Great.
00:29:25.01
Adz
yeah
00:29:24.67
Russell Gibson
How are you, Al?
00:29:25.44
Adz
it If you want a sure hold, yeah, for sure. But you'll need to wait another 20 or so years to profit on it. The problem with established cards of dead or retired players. so Such an optimist is Al.
00:29:35.18
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:29:37.21
Adz
Yeah. He's got a valid point. Anthony Milne actually responded to that. Yeah, 100%. We'll get the PSA 10 or it's a bust these days. so ah The Hall of Famers like Kobe, Bird Magic, et cetera, have a hand-me-down factor to our kids. I feel it's more of a nostalgia hold.
00:29:53.57
Adz
um Then Anthony actually responded couple more times. I think Anthony's got a lot of thoughts on this one. Man with Kobe, I feel like it's not going anywhere, especially in Australia.
00:30:05.45
Adz
I remember for them going 350 bucks at one stage, um holding them for another 20 years.
00:30:05.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:30:11.21
Adz
If you might, you might get 350 that it's a sell for me. um If it's going to be a sell, do it on eBay. You'll get a better price. Even with fees taken off your selling groups, you'll need baby oil for that 80% buyout will come in dry.
00:30:20.78
Russell Gibson
and
00:30:25.56
Adz
Okay. Topps PSA 9 just goes back to 202.
00:30:27.96
Russell Gibson
all right
00:30:30.29
Adz
Yeah, um is the base card for the Topps, not Topps Chrome. 2250 mark is at the moment. So, yeah.
00:30:40.47
Russell Gibson
Interesting. I would have thought Topps Chrome would sell a little bit better than the Topps, to be honest, but there you
00:30:46.68
Adz
A Topps, not the Topps Chrome. That's the Bowman's Best, the one you've got. I think the Bowman's Best, the arcade twenty the r twenty three i actually think that's a really nice card. um
00:30:56.35
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:30:57.02
Adz
I do think the PSA 9 is the thing that hurts it.
00:31:00.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:31:01.02
Adz
And the pop count on on the um
00:31:05.22
Adz
on that actually it actually does impact it quite a bit.
00:31:07.73
Russell Gibson
It's insane, yeah.
00:31:09.68
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Because, yeah, the PSA 9's got a, what, pop a 7,000 or something.
00:31:18.70
Russell Gibson
All right, shall we move on?
00:31:19.22
Adz
Yeah. Let's do it.
00:31:21.74
Russell Gibson
All right. So I think the next thing we've got in the sheet here
00:31:30.85
Russell Gibson
is Steph Curry. First player in NBA history to get to 4,000 three-pointers. I'm not really one to talk about players making records, just for the fact that seems to me every week someone is breaking a new combination of some record.
00:31:47.26
Russell Gibson
However...
00:31:48.23
Adz
Yeah.
00:31:48.59
Russell Gibson
This is not really a combination record. This is just a straight-out insanity record. So first player in league history to get to 4,000 threes. I think what we should talk about is who is in second place because he's at the moment, he's 900 threes ahead of James Harden.
00:32:09.33
Adz
is this like the Is this like the LeBron points discussion?
00:32:09.74
Russell Gibson
He's...
00:32:14.09
Russell Gibson
It's very similar.
00:32:16.23
Adz
Yeah.
00:32:16.81
Russell Gibson
It's very similar. Then, so for me is the two that really stand out in this is Ray Allen. He's the guy who I'm like, is all my measuring stick for three pointers. He's at 2,973. So a full thousand ahead of Ray Allen.
00:32:29.51
Adz
Yeah.
00:32:29.30
Russell Gibson
Obviously it's a different era. So, you know, it doesn't make a lot of sense. The other one too is Reggie Miller at 2,500.
00:32:36.25
Adz
Yeah.
00:32:36.18
Russell Gibson
You know, that's the guy who I'm like, he really was the three point shooter, you know, when i was a kid. So
00:32:43.14
Adz
Yeah.
00:32:43.27
Russell Gibson
you know, a full 1500 ahead of him. Again, it's a different era of the NBA. it's It's very difficult to compare the two together. But, you know, my question to you is who is going to beat this guy?
00:32:55.27
Russell Gibson
Who's going to knock him off his perch?
00:32:58.94
Adz
Nobody here. Nobody on this list.
00:33:03.69
Adz
There's like, do you know what I mean?
00:33:03.53
Russell Gibson
So do you think James Harden could get close or do you think that he will...
00:33:04.97
Adz
Like, nah.
00:33:09.33
Adz
Not even a chance.
00:33:09.67
Russell Gibson
Where do you think, you know what I mean? Like somebody give me someone that you think maybe could get up there.
00:33:13.49
Adz
So is James... All right, so do you do you think... So so is is the goal to but to surpass James Harden? Because i maybe... Maybe um one of the younger ones could do that.
00:33:27.42
Russell Gibson
ah okay.
00:33:27.95
Adz
Like, you know what I mean?
00:33:28.22
Russell Gibson
Sure. So what you're saying is like, no, one's going to beat Steph at number one. Maybe someone one day will overtake hard on it too.
00:33:34.69
Adz
Yeah, exactly. that's it like i i just I don't think anyone's getting to the top of that mountain.
00:33:35.59
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Right.
00:33:39.55
Adz
um
00:33:39.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:33:40.68
Adz
I could be wrong, but...
00:33:42.07
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:33:43.55
Adz
I really think this is a very unique um athlete we're looking at in Steph Curry.
00:33:52.23
Adz
Look how far behind Clay is.
00:33:54.49
Russell Gibson
It's nuts, isn't it? Just like how many threes he gets up. Yeah. So I think where I lay on this is I actually, I can't see anyone catching up to him and maybe there's going to be another shooter coming along that knocks him off, but it just seems so Yeah, just so insane what he's done for his career. All right, so this we have to talk about a card for Steph Curry. you know I was going to do the normal Kaboom. I was going to do the normal downtown. Okay, let's do something completely different.
00:34:18.43
Russell Gibson
2019 Panini Prism, Steph Curry Silver.
00:34:24.14
Russell Gibson
Last sold for $44. I don't have a pop count on this. It's a little bit not like me to do that to you. Sorry about that, guys. Sorry, I lied to you. Population on this is 1,171.
00:34:38.26
Russell Gibson
All right. So the reason why I chose to talk about this card is that my issue with Steph Curry now is it's just the price point. For me, it's really difficult to get in on a price point on him. So I'm trying to find a a card that, you know, might be a little bit different and also is a bit more affordable. So at $44 for a PSA 10, you know, I really like this.
00:34:58.32
Russell Gibson
I like the aesthetics on the card.
00:34:58.87
Adz
I like that. I like that a lot.
00:35:00.37
Russell Gibson
i think this particular yeah I think this particular year on Prism was nice. And we're going to talk about Prism a little bit later on the show. And it's going to sort of echo my thoughts again, too. I think you know the photography generally on Prism is pretty good.
00:35:13.44
Russell Gibson
i think particularly for the bigger names, they would generally put you know a better photo in.
00:35:14.88
Adz
Yeah.
00:35:17.20
Russell Gibson
And again, this is like, to me, it's an exceptional action shot. So look, I just like this. you know I think something like this to me is something you'd buy and put away for the long term. And I think you do actually percentage-wise quite well out of it.
00:35:30.63
Russell Gibson
And even if you do end up losing on it at $44, I think you're you'll be able to survive. And you know what do they say? Live to fight another day. So that's where I'm leaving that one.
00:35:43.04
Adz
No, it's a good-looking card. um And, yeah, you can't go wrong with that price.
00:35:48.98
Russell Gibson
Yep. Alrighty. Now, this one was a very weird news story that I heard, and I thought I'd look into it. And I thought, we haven't checked in on this guy up pretty well at all this year so why don't we talk a little bit of Giannis all righty so he's playing really well at the moment too I think the problem with the Bucks is that the league is actually pretty stacked this year and there's lots of fun stuff to talk about like we haven't spoken about the Magic for a few weeks now which were you know my darlings at the start of the year we we have been talking about Detroit a little bit but probably not enough we've
00:36:03.13
Adz
Yeah, he's still in the league, apparently.
00:36:18.91
Adz
Yep.
00:36:23.71
Russell Gibson
Dropped off talking about the Rockets. it's it's just a lot going on this year in the league. All righty. Giannis has mid-range now. Giannis has made 102 mid-range shots is this year, the fourth most in the NBA while shooting 47%.
00:36:40.73
Russell Gibson
Higher than mid-range masters such as DeMar DeRozan, Donovan Mitchell, and Kyrie Irving. It's part of my game, and I've worked on it all summer long. So... What does this mean for Giannis? He basically now is a freak athlete who's got mid to high ball handling, absolutely dominant at the ring shooting stats.
00:37:02.28
Russell Gibson
He's been improving his three-point shot. It's there, but it's not fantastic. But now he's added his mid-range game. So, you know, we were talking about OKC before, grinding down, not really being able to get good shots off against the Nuggets. This is what you need.
00:37:17.50
Russell Gibson
to consistently get good shots, you know, as games slow down, as they go into the playoffs. so I like this a lot. I feel like this is the kind of the minutia that ESPN might not talk about, but we should absolutely, you know, pay some respect to.
00:37:27.30
Adz
the Minutia. Yep.
00:37:33.86
Russell Gibson
And again, in true, you can't comp this recipe slash history. We have to talk some Giannis. We've been talking about Prism. but Let's keep the Prism conversation going today. What can we find here?
00:37:46.60
Russell Gibson
Here we go. 2019 Prism, Yarnus, last sold for $40. So very, very comparable to the Steph Curry that we just spoke about.
00:37:58.08
Russell Gibson
What is the population on this bad boy? 1,088.
00:38:01.48
Russell Gibson
So again, very, very similar and actually a very similar waveform when it comes to the sales on this too.
00:38:04.50
Adz
Mmm.
00:38:07.70
Russell Gibson
So it's been up to $50. It's been all the way down to 20 bucks. Look, I think at $20, This card's actually been down to $15. It's been down to $13. I mean, that's an insane purchase.
00:38:18.89
Adz
Isn't that cheaper than the grading costs?
00:38:21.53
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right. For a 10 too, you know.
00:38:25.07
Adz
Crazy, isn't it
00:38:26.68
Russell Gibson
Look, I like this. For all the reasons I said about the Steph Curry, I'm not going to crap on about all that stuff again, but I like the aesthetics.
00:38:32.51
Adz
Mmm.
00:38:33.97
Russell Gibson
Obviously, I like the 10. population is a bit of whatever, but also the same thing too. It's sometimes it's quite hard to buy into people. So it's nice to sort of find a cheaper oasis if you would like to use that word.
00:38:46.14
Adz
Yeah, like it.
00:38:46.00
Russell Gibson
ah Final thoughts on this ad and then we'll go a dinner break.
00:38:49.72
Adz
i would I would think about maybe looking at colour matches with Giannis. The green is an easy one.
00:38:54.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:58.42
Adz
But yeah, good card.
00:39:00.61
Russell Gibson
All righty. Speaking about sponsors who have given us a lot, we've got Fastbreak Trading Cards. We've got two announcements for the boys at FastbreakTradingCards.com.
00:39:11.44
Russell Gibson
The first one is Fastbreak First Anniversary Trade Day. Go down to Chilip Street in Cheltenham, Sunday, the 23rd of March, 12 to 4 p.m., 75 Chilip Street, Cheltenham.
00:39:24.64
Russell Gibson
Listen to our card show, Timeless Moments Before You Go, so you know what to do. and what to expect when you go down to a trading day. And their second announcement, which is probably, you might argue that it is bigger than what we just spoke about.
00:39:40.54
Adz
Just little bit.
00:39:41.10
Russell Gibson
Fastbreak trading cards are being announced with Topps as the trade partners or the official trading card zone partners for CollectFest in Melbourne. That is absolutely huge.
00:39:52.90
Russell Gibson
Talk about going to the next level, guys. Congratulations on being the direct partner with CollectFest.
00:39:57.17
Adz
Yeah.
00:40:00.11
Russell Gibson
It's just amazing.
00:40:00.58
Adz
Yeah, that's awesome.
00:40:00.79
Russell Gibson
So, yeah.
00:40:02.02
Adz
That's huge.
00:40:02.58
Russell Gibson
So, congratulations. What we probably should do now is actually get the date. So, it's the 5th and 6th of July in 25.
00:40:10.91
Adz
hu
00:40:10.89
Russell Gibson
Brisbane is 26, 27. And Sydney, 23, 24. I know nothing about CollectFest. That's all I'm going to say. I can't tell say anything else other than it's supposed to be insane.
00:40:24.27
Russell Gibson
And it's supposed to cover all sorts of different sports and collectibles and shoes.
00:40:28.12
Adz
All collecting. All collecting.
00:40:31.34
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:40:33.80
Adz
Pokemon, basketball.
00:40:33.52
Russell Gibson
So, guys, i kind of feel like this is when you know a celebrity and they've you know moved on to the next stratosphere. It's kind of cool to be able to say congratulations to John and Alvaro.
00:40:44.80
Russell Gibson
That's crazy, guys.
00:40:45.76
Adz
It is.
00:40:45.60
Russell Gibson
we're We're really proud of you. Well done, guys.
00:40:48.11
Adz
No, they've done an amazing job. And I'm looking forward to going down to the trade day anyway on on the 23rd to say congratulations in person.
00:40:52.13
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. ah Alrighty, this is the next thing we're going to talk about is our Prism review. Adam, what have you seen from Prism this year and what are your thoughts so far on the product release?
00:41:08.10
Adz
I'd actually kept my head buried in the sand. So i reading the link, yeah, but reading the link,
00:41:10.99
Russell Gibson
Yeah, okay, deliberately? Yeah.
00:41:15.82
Adz
that that you sent. There's some cute little cards there. i'm I'm glad they've kept with a few of the the pat the old sets. I'm happy about the Prismania still being retained.
00:41:25.41
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:41:26.64
Adz
They still look hot. um
00:41:28.16
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:41:29.86
Adz
Yeah. It's always nice to say what Prism brings out. It's the flagship of the rookie card. Yeah.
00:41:34.55
Russell Gibson
ah It's the flagship product. For me, it's the one product that you can purchase with confidence and not worry about it you know where it's going to end up in a couple of years.
00:41:42.29
Adz
Yeah.
00:41:43.42
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:41:43.96
Adz
Yeah, well, and it's the the word prison itself appears throughout every other Panini product. You're right. It is the flagship product.
00:41:51.72
Russell Gibson
yeah Look, in terms of inserts and autographs, I'm not going to beat around a bush on this. No one really cares about them.
00:42:02.89
Russell Gibson
It's one of those things. It's such a funny thing. So there was a bit of a fuss last year when boxes didn't have autographs in them. And, you know, you don't get what you're paid for.
00:42:11.00
Adz
Oh, no.
00:42:12.43
Russell Gibson
but People complain and and that's rightfully so. Like I'm not disparaging that, but it's also like really funny to me too, like terms of resale and collectability, how many people are like, Oh, I've got this amazing prism autograph in my collection. And,
00:42:27.23
Adz
Yeah.
00:42:27.07
Russell Gibson
it's one of my top 10 cards. Like just no one really reflects on it like that.
00:42:31.08
Adz
Yeah.
00:42:30.71
Russell Gibson
So that to me was a little bit of sort of an irony situation, but I think my, my issue with it last year was obviously the price point.
00:42:34.98
Adz
Yeah. Mm.
00:42:38.11
Russell Gibson
And then if you didn't have spurs and you didn't hit a Wemby, like it was a really tough product. Whereas this year, It seems to me like it's a bit more rounded out in terms of what's in the product, in terms of there's not one sort of huge prospect in it. And look, the flip side of that is then you know you're not going to get this you know massive card coming out of it.
00:42:59.62
Adz
Yeah, true, true, true.
00:42:59.78
Russell Gibson
I do agree with that. However, my sort of again, my flip side to this, it seems to me like the aesthetics of the cards this year is amazing. I i really love the design. And also, too, the quality control seems much, much better this year.
00:43:10.60
Adz
Yep.
00:43:13.12
Russell Gibson
There is a small issue I've been seeing on some of the breaks is that the cards are quite stuck together. So I'm not too sure if that's a production problem and if that will affect the cards.
00:43:21.32
Adz
Let's hope it's not.
00:43:23.00
Russell Gibson
Like that to me is the big, I don't care if the cards are stuck together, to be honest. Like if you can peel them apart, that's fine. But if it damages, a you know, a big hit or, you know, a big rookie or a numbered card that you're, you know, you're really keen on, you know, that's the part where I don't really like that.
00:43:37.15
Russell Gibson
But look, other than that, look, I think it's been fantastic this year.
00:43:38.02
Adz
Yeah.
00:43:40.25
Russell Gibson
I think the other elephant in the room we have to talk about is the number of parallels. I didn't sit there and count through it, but I would guess there's at least 80 different parallels in it this year. So it's just insane. Like, mean, I feel in previous podcasts, we've read through every single one, but I'm not going to do that to the listeners this year. you know, I can take a screenshot of this and put it on.
00:44:01.50
Russell Gibson
I'll have to take two screenshots actually, because there's so many a, in a two column list that it actually doesn't fit onto my one screen at once. It's just, it's just nuts, honestly.
00:44:11.16
Adz
It's so crazy, but looking at looking at the first card, that Tim Duncan, is that basketball finish ah going to be one of the parallels?
00:44:11.49
Russell Gibson
How many? Yeah.
00:44:21.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah. That's one of them. Yeah.
00:44:23.61
Adz
i like I like the basketball card finish.
00:44:23.51
Russell Gibson
So they actually had that.
00:44:27.05
Russell Gibson
Yeah. They had that in some sort of lesser product last year.
00:44:30.41
Adz
It was like a Hoops All-Star thing years ago.
00:44:30.52
Russell Gibson
It was. Yeah. Something like anyway.
00:44:35.02
Adz
but yeah.
00:44:34.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:44:35.17
Adz
Yeah.
00:44:34.84
Russell Gibson
So that is, definitely in one of them. I think it might've been in Donruss and maybe, yeah.
00:44:37.60
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:41.66
Russell Gibson
Anyway. Yeah, look, it's good that they try out different parallels and put them into Prism in future releases. I do like how they do that. And particularly WNBA, they've been doing that for a little while now. So, but look, I think this is the, this is the thing that I'd really want to talk to you about though.
00:44:53.34
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:56.87
Russell Gibson
at It's like, I just can't get over this of just like how much of this product to get to this many parallels and to to get to a sheet like that. Like, you can't do a rainbow with this.
00:45:07.16
Russell Gibson
Like, even if, like, let's just say you did 12 out of these, like 12 out of the 80. That's still a massive achievement. I think you can still call it a rainbow. I mean, technically, you you could cover the whole rainbow with that many cards, but...
00:45:18.42
Adz
Right, so so hang on. All right, do we do we take... Now, this makes the chase easier, right?
00:45:26.31
Adz
Are any of those... Take the one-on-ones out.
00:45:27.77
Russell Gibson
This is insane.
00:45:29.01
Adz
You take the numbered ones out. You have a...
00:45:31.44
Russell Gibson
That is impossible.
00:45:32.15
Adz
ah
00:45:32.07
Russell Gibson
Even if you did that at it, that's still insane.
00:45:35.40
Adz
um so
00:45:35.37
Russell Gibson
Maybe, but...
00:45:36.07
Adz
I'm doing a count. It's 21 or 22 parallels that aren't numbered. Is that the rainbow chase?
00:45:43.61
Russell Gibson
but Even if you said it was 22, that's still a massive achievement, though.
00:45:45.03
Adz
Is that a new...
00:45:47.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:45:49.27
Adz
It's crazy. That includes White Sparkle, White Tiger, etc. So, yeah, you're right.
00:45:53.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah. right, why don't you just pick out a couple here that you wanted to talk about or maybe you would collect or something like
00:46:01.06
Adz
Some of the parallels...
00:46:00.84
Russell Gibson
Is there something that you're, yeah, is there something that you're keen to get?
00:46:06.03
Adz
Look, I'm... i'm all about whatever parallel brings me a colour match. Everyone knows that.
00:46:11.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:46:12.53
Adz
um I think the lower ones, the thing that i i that annoys me the most is that all the gold ones tend to be numbered to 10. So as a Lakers fan, it's very hard to get the gold colour match.
00:46:25.81
Adz
So i look out, I keep a ah lookout for purple, but they're also somewhat low numbered.
00:46:26.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:46:31.88
Adz
So yeah, it makes it tricky, but I'm, I do like,
00:46:34.42
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:46:37.51
Adz
I do like trying to get a colour match or a theme to really make the card pop. that's that
00:46:43.06
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:46:43.56
Adz
That's what I look for in a parallel, aside from obviously low numbering if if it's a rookie. but
00:46:49.02
Russell Gibson
So I like that they've made gold to 10 this year, like in my OCD head, that's what gold should be. It should be numbered to 10.
00:46:57.05
Adz
Yeah.
00:46:56.69
Russell Gibson
I like that black gold is to five. I'm really liking that at the moment. The other one, so last year I was frothing over the blossom card. So this year they've made it purple blossom. And I actually think purple is better than the pink.
00:47:09.53
Russell Gibson
So I'm all about, you know, getting those.
00:47:10.32
Adz
Yeah.
00:47:13.52
Russell Gibson
They actually were really tough pulls last year and they sold really well in the aftermarket. So that's something for me is just to keep an eye out on. And maybe I can pick, you know, one or two up, something like that.
00:47:22.69
Adz
Yeah.
00:47:23.96
Russell Gibson
But yeah, I'm not really holding my breath for that. of that at all. All right, let's do one more quick one ad and then we'll go to another break because as usual, we're we're all over the place when it comes to tonight.
00:47:35.85
Russell Gibson
This is not a quick one, but we can introduce it and then we can move on to the next thing. So, okay.
00:47:40.76
Adz
I like it. I like it.
00:47:42.40
Russell Gibson
So for this one ad, if we talk about it too much and you want to kill it, just let me know. Okay. And we'll move on because I'm sort of like, I could talk about this for either two minutes or two hours. So if I sort of crap on, just, just cut me off.
00:47:54.17
Russell Gibson
Fanatics Panini legal battle continues. as Judge Nix's dismissal. So basically what that means is, Hennini put a lawsuit in against Fanatics, and basically what it was about was them basically running the tables and having all the licenses, and that was like a um What's the word that I'm trying to search for here?
00:48:19.41
Adz
Monopoly.
00:48:20.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah, thank you very much.
00:48:21.19
Adz
They've monopolized it. Yeah.
00:48:23.26
Russell Gibson
Even though... You could argue that Panini had that monopoly for a while, and also they made monopoly cards, but let's not oh go to that.
00:48:30.59
Adz
ah Yep.
00:48:32.24
Russell Gibson
Anyway, so then Fanatics put in a counterclaim against them, and the idea was, I think in my head, was that it and would go to court, the judges would say, look, you've both got a bit of a case, but we'll dismiss them both, and then you can both go on your merry ways.
00:48:37.32
Adz
Yep.
00:48:48.43
Russell Gibson
But that's exactly the opposite of what's happened. So now they're going to be you know battling this out in court you know for years.
00:48:55.05
Adz
Yeah.
00:48:55.06
Russell Gibson
My feeling about this, and I've already said this before, is that no one wins out of this.
00:49:02.24
Adz
Yeah.
00:49:02.25
Russell Gibson
Fanatics doesn't win. Panini doesn't win. And at the end of the day, we are funding this big mother effer of a lawsuit, court costs, lawyers fees, da, da, da, da.
00:49:10.05
Adz
Yeah.
00:49:13.57
Russell Gibson
So, you know, no I feel like just no one wins in this.
00:49:17.11
Adz
Mm.
00:49:18.07
Russell Gibson
Where are you at with all this type of tit for tat back and forth between these two companies?
00:49:25.74
Adz
I think it's it's bound to happen, but I'm very surprised about how public it sort of becomes um and how not behind closed doors things are.
00:49:40.37
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:49:41.10
Adz
You'd think there'd be a level of, hey, we've all got, we've got ah we've got stakes in this. Maybe we need to hear each other out and compensate accordingly, but I don't know how it ends up all over over the news.
00:49:56.68
Adz
Do you know what I mean? like Sort your stuff out behind closed doors.
00:49:58.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. So to that point, I'll just read these two lines to you and then I'll add a point
00:50:04.39
Adz
Yep.
00:50:04.10
Russell Gibson
just to add to that. So Panini started the legal war by suing Fanatics for alleged antitrust violations.
00:50:09.40
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:50:09.36
Russell Gibson
Fanatics responded four days later by suing Panini for unfair competition, torturous interference, and breach of good faith. Now for me, that's like ultra ironic because it seems to me like, we've spoken about this with Fanatics and their like dodgy backdoor, yeah, all their dodgy backdoor dealings they did with like the Tom Brady stuff.
00:50:21.90
Adz
launching their top stuff early. Yeah. Yep.
00:50:27.24
Russell Gibson
You know, we've had some like people talk about that on the podcast and then how they
00:50:28.57
Adz
Yep.
00:50:31.11
Adz
Spot on.
00:50:31.75
Russell Gibson
literally stole the NFL license out, you know, from underneath people. And then um I actually, this is what I'm predicting here. I predict that fanatics is going to settle with Panini because they won't want this to go to court.
00:50:45.68
Russell Gibson
Cause I think all of the dodgy stuff that fanatics has been up to would then become public knowledge.
00:50:47.52
Adz
Hmm.
00:50:51.46
Adz
Oh, okay.
00:50:51.52
Russell Gibson
And then people will actually like know what they've been up to and sort of like, you know, their true colors will come out.
00:50:54.59
Adz
Yep.
00:50:57.39
Russell Gibson
And look,
00:50:58.32
Adz
Yep.
00:50:58.08
Russell Gibson
You can take that from one of two ways. You can say, look, all that bad stuff's going to come out and then people are going to know about it and they're not going to like them.
00:51:04.58
Adz
Hmm.
00:51:04.21
Russell Gibson
Or it's going that classic thing of like, there's no such thing as bad press and this is just going to boost up their publicity and their sort of the you know their're bottom line and further.
00:51:10.38
Adz
Yeah.
00:51:13.57
Russell Gibson
Now, talking about their bottom line, yeah, right?
00:51:14.70
Adz
Publicity is publicity. Yeah.
00:51:16.74
Russell Gibson
Now, listen to this, Oad. Fanatics trading card unit last year did $1.6 billion dollars in revenue. That is insane. And that's before they've got NBA and everything else that they're trying to sign up.
00:51:30.97
Adz
Wow, okay.
00:51:30.70
Russell Gibson
Imagine how much money that Panini has been making these last few years if that's what fanatics have done in year one before they've even got their act together.
00:51:42.75
Adz
Yeah, that's in that's pretty crazy, isn't it?
00:51:47.78
Adz
That's, yeah, okay.
00:51:47.66
Russell Gibson
Anyway.
00:51:51.29
Adz
Think about how it's going to be. Oh, yeah, okay. It's going to be fun.
00:51:54.93
Russell Gibson
What do you think the best case scenario is that Yeah. What do you think the best case scenario for Panini is here, that they hold on to one license or part of a license? Is that what they're trying to do?
00:52:03.53
Adz
are Yeah, I reckon they're allowed to part trade with their, use their licensing to some extent. do you know what i mean? Like theyre they're allowed to trade in the space kind of thing.
00:52:10.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:52:13.80
Adz
Especially the way that, I don't like the way Top ah Fanatics came in and launched Topps unlicensed
00:52:13.77
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:52:23.11
Adz
without the jersey. You know how Topps have released like this year, like last year.
00:52:27.58
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So
00:52:29.20
Adz
I just, I feel like that's a bad faith move and I kind of see it's a bit unfair on pan like Panini. Like they should have been given like a clear way to to finish up their their time.
00:52:45.46
Adz
And it seems like both of them are now just trying to go over one ah one another.
00:52:45.76
Russell Gibson
yeah so
00:52:48.45
Adz
Yeah.
00:52:49.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So to take your point, that I would definitely agree with that too, because they're alleging that Panini is the one who is doing the interference and the breach of good faith. But yeah, to take your point, I think in that instance, Fanatics did, and they deliberately signed Wemby so that Panini couldn't have him.
00:53:02.81
Adz
Yeah.
00:53:06.22
Russell Gibson
And that absolutely mucked up like their last couple of years with the product.
00:53:09.29
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:53:10.23
Russell Gibson
And I think that's the main reason why they released all this unlicensed product was so they could just get Wemby autographs out. like That was their main you know thing for it. I actually, if I'm trying to say the cup is half full on this, the thing I like about it is that it gives their processes a chance to be refined.
00:53:27.62
Russell Gibson
So what I mean by that is gives them chance to do the artwork, produce the cards at volume. Okay, what do we need to improve? How can we you know make this better? That's what I would hope we're going to see in terms of a benefit here from Fanatics.
00:53:40.62
Russell Gibson
But you know who really, i mean, who knows how that's going to play out, right?
00:53:41.65
Adz
Yeah.
00:53:44.74
Russell Gibson
Like that that could really go both ways, couldn't it
00:53:47.66
Adz
That's true.
00:53:47.78
Russell Gibson
All right.
00:53:48.32
Adz
Yeah, that's true.
00:53:48.80
Russell Gibson
you I'll let you have the final word on this because I feel like I had a lot more on that.
00:53:54.50
Adz
Look, I thought originally it' had caused some healthy competition, but it's just like, come on, we don't need the drama in the news. We're just sick to making basketball cards.
00:54:00.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:54:02.41
Adz
That's my thought.
00:54:03.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:54:07.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Alrighty. Ad break number three, the hobby hangout XL in Melbourne is upon us. The 1st of June, 10 30 AM. Go online. go online to the hobbyhangout.com.au.
00:54:25.11
Russell Gibson
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00:54:38.02
Russell Gibson
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00:54:54.11
Russell Gibson
We are very happy to be supporting and working with the lads from the Hobby Hangout again. We're also very excited for it. And publicly, we would like to apply some pressure from someone from the Hobby Hangout team. Please come onto the podcast.
00:55:08.28
Russell Gibson
We would love to chew the fat with you for a little bit and discuss how all this is going to play out. We'll be promoting the Hobby Hangout XL until the Hobby Hangout is upon us. So thank you very much, guys, for your support.
00:55:24.11
Russell Gibson
And we will be right back.
00:55:36.64
Russell Gibson
Adam, how are you doing, buddy?
00:55:38.90
Adz
Getting there, getting there. We're in the final stretch.
00:55:41.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Are you keeping hydrated?
00:55:42.95
Adz
Yeah.
00:55:43.57
Russell Gibson
That's the question I would like to ask.
00:55:45.00
Adz
Always. I love to keep hydrated.
00:55:48.96
Russell Gibson
Righty. Charles Barkley. The Lakers are having great two weeks. Kendrick Perkins said the Lakers saved the NBA season. That's all them fools on the other network, which we've got to be working for next year. That's all they talk about. Let me tell y'all something.
00:56:04.93
Russell Gibson
i want all the smoke. Between that and this lame-ass LeBron-Michael Jordan debate, I've said it for years, the only people who talk about LeBron and Michael is people on television who got no talent to talk about anything else.
00:56:17.80
Russell Gibson
I take that as an insult personally.
00:56:18.31
Adz
Yeah.
00:56:20.24
Russell Gibson
i also take this as a challenge. So I think that we ah we need to talk about all the important teams in the league, Adam. Why don't we try and talk about the top 10 teams in the league?
00:56:35.06
Adz
ye
00:56:35.18
Russell Gibson
And then we'll try and talk about one player or one card from each team and we'll try and quickly skip skip through this. I suspect we're not going to get through 10. So why don't we do...
00:56:48.11
Russell Gibson
you reckon we could do five before the end of today's show?
00:56:50.41
Adz
Five, far out. Okay, okay. Hang on. Let's challenge accepted.
00:56:55.98
Russell Gibson
So why don't we just jointly agree on, say, five or six teams that we think are the most important in the league at the moment?
00:57:04.95
Adz
ah Okay, so we're gonna what are we going to base it on? What's the top 10?
00:57:08.55
Russell Gibson
right, so in the West for me, non-negotiable is Thunder Nuggets.
00:57:09.22
Adz
Like power rankings?
00:57:11.99
Russell Gibson
Absolute non-negotiable. In the East, non-negotiable is the Cavs and the Celtics.
00:57:16.93
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:57:16.94
Russell Gibson
And then we can go from there. How about that? That's four.
00:57:20.34
Adz
Okay, so we've got to pick six more.
00:57:22.68
Russell Gibson
Two more.
00:57:27.48
Adz
That's four, isn't it? Are we going top ten or top five?
00:57:30.41
Russell Gibson
I don't reckon we'll have time to do 10 today. Why don't we just do...
00:57:32.67
Adz
We'll just do five. Okay.
00:57:34.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:57:35.16
Adz
Who's the fifth?
00:57:36.96
Russell Gibson
Who do you want?
00:57:40.42
Adz
See, I like the Lakers, but... Is there another team in the East? I don't think so. So if I'd nominate from the East, I'd say the Bucs.
00:57:50.79
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:57:52.33
Adz
um And if I were to nominate from the West and I wasn't going to go, hey, it's the Lakers. um
00:57:59.54
Russell Gibson
You have to go to the Warriors, don't you? So since Jimmy Butler's arrived, their last 10 games, they're 9-1.
00:58:03.02
Adz
i I was going to say the Grizzlies, but yeah, yeah the Warriors, you're right.
00:58:04.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And one
00:58:08.56
Adz
You're right.
00:58:08.85
Russell Gibson
yeah and i think
00:58:09.68
Adz
yeah You're definitely...
00:58:11.89
Russell Gibson
what the Warriors needed was another veteran and and they got him. And I think, you know, Jimmy Butler is good for 18 months. So this is like the good Jimmy Butler that we've currently got now. Right. So, you know, embrace it while you can, because he's going to be a pain in the ass in 12 months, basically.
00:58:22.14
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah
00:58:26.83
Russell Gibson
All right.
00:58:28.24
Adz
yeah. Yeah, the Warriors are the worries have come out to play, you're right.
00:58:28.20
Russell Gibson
Well, we've already done Steph. Hey, we've already done Steph Curry today. So I feel like, okay, we've already spoken about the Warriors today. Why don't we do um someone else from the West and how about that?
00:58:39.93
Russell Gibson
And then, Why don't we do the Lakers then? We can do your Lakers. Who do you want to talk about, Ad?
00:58:46.24
Adz
Who do I want to talk about? i say ah What about...
00:58:47.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:58:48.92
Adz
this is this is going This is going in...
00:58:49.08
Russell Gibson
Lakers are your team. I feel like it it'd be rude if I chose the Lakers player.
00:58:52.94
Adz
This is going in blind, but I'd almost say Austin Reeves.
00:58:56.57
Russell Gibson
yeah Yeah, let's do Reeves. That's good one.
00:58:58.49
Adz
That kid's been putting up numbers.
00:58:58.13
Russell Gibson
That's a fun one. Yeah.
00:59:00.94
Adz
Like, it's been...
00:59:01.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:59:05.80
Adz
Alright, let's see if Reeves is in here.
00:59:16.97
Adz
Is AR in there?
00:59:18.17
Russell Gibson
I haven't.
00:59:18.96
Adz
Here we go. Look at that. Look at that base. Purple wave? Interesting. Okay.
00:59:29.89
Adz
Wow. Okay. That's an interesting one. um Austin Reeves, pe say silver PSA 10. Pop count is 82. Last sold for. you want to have a guess at this or have you already seen it?
00:59:44.61
Russell Gibson
i haven't
00:59:46.72
Adz
Have a guess what his current PSA 10 rookie No, not even close.
00:59:51.20
Russell Gibson
Maybe 60 USD?
00:59:58.77
Russell Gibson
What's he going for?
01:00:01.76
Adz
um Last sold for $445. $445.
01:00:08.57
Russell Gibson
My goodness.
01:00:11.01
Adz
Pop count on this is 82.
01:00:11.68
Russell Gibson
Okay.
01:00:14.14
Adz
Sale before that was in was on the 8th of January for 135 And the sale before that, 95. So at 4.45, it's a sell. So where is Austin Reeves at right now, price-wise for
01:00:22.88
Russell Gibson
right, that's a sell. that's That's a sell. There's nothing more to say.
01:00:26.20
Adz
and four At the $95, is
01:00:28.98
Adz
what worry so where is where is austin reeves at right now pricewise for you
01:00:35.79
Russell Gibson
Look, if you told me that was...
01:00:36.31
Adz
at the ninety five dollars is he ah
01:00:39.63
Russell Gibson
If you said that was $60 to $100, mean, like, that's that's fine. Like, you know, he's a pretty middling prospect.
01:00:43.84
Adz
Yeah.
01:00:44.43
Russell Gibson
He's exciting. He's on a good team. Da-da-da-da. That's fine. That's not 50% of a Tatum. Like, what are you talking about?
01:00:52.35
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
01:00:54.24
Russell Gibson
Are you crazy?
01:00:56.00
Adz
I'd sell it at 4.45.
01:00:56.00
Russell Gibson
No.
01:00:56.62
Adz
There you have it.
01:00:56.56
Russell Gibson
but Yeah. All right.
01:01:00.39
Adz
There you have it. Yeah, right. I'd sell it. I'd sell it that price.
01:01:02.86
Russell Gibson
All right. That was fun. That was good. ah We've already done Nuggets today with Jokic, haven't we?
01:01:10.20
Adz
We have.
01:01:10.07
Russell Gibson
We've already done Thunder with SGA.
01:01:10.56
Adz
We have. We have.
01:01:13.68
Russell Gibson
ah Actually, we're doing pretty good. Maybe we will get through 10. ten So why don't we do the Rockets next? Because I feel like we're speeding through this maybe a little bit quicker than I thinking.
01:01:20.19
Adz
All right, who's on the Rockets? Who's on the Rockets?
01:01:22.42
Russell Gibson
Well, I think for me, the obvious one is Jalen Green. You know, you could twist my arm. We could talk about Shen Goon, but I think yeah we can talk about both quickly if you wanted to.
01:01:33.41
Adz
Let's go Jalen Green. um
01:01:34.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:01:36.39
Adz
PSA 10, yep. A bit different to the Austin Reeves recent prices.
01:01:46.03
Adz
Actually, closer to the...
01:01:46.29
Russell Gibson
So my thing about
01:01:48.27
Adz
Closer to the the recent Austin Red.
01:01:48.47
Russell Gibson
My thing about Jalen Green is that he was really exciting for a while and everyone's just dropped off him. So actually this might be, you know, a really good time to get in and, you know, buy this guy.
01:01:59.00
Adz
he's um He's actually down 8%, yeah.
01:01:59.18
Russell Gibson
Alrighty.
01:02:01.90
Adz
So his last sold 142.50.
01:02:02.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah, right.
01:02:04.18
Adz
So around the 150 mark, that seems about right for a middling of the way prospect with bit of potential.
01:02:07.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:02:09.72
Adz
Yeah, good.
01:02:09.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And to be honest, I think this is where Austin Reeves should sort of be at. So yeah, absolutely 400 Gs.
01:02:15.27
Adz
I agree.
01:02:16.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:02:17.07
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:18.22
Russell Gibson
Population on this is a bit higher, though. It's 680, isn't it? I don't think Shen Goon is in card ladder, so we're going to need to do Shen Goon, the old school.
01:02:33.31
Russell Gibson
Old school way, yeah. Using 130 point.
01:02:35.94
Adz
Yeah, i always struggle. I always struggle with Shingun finding comps.
01:02:39.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:02:42.30
Russell Gibson
All right, here we go.
01:02:45.41
Russell Gibson
ah The straight red PSA 9 numbered to $299. That's selling for $111. i think that's absolutely perfect.
01:02:52.15
Adz
Okay.
01:02:52.80
Russell Gibson
Silver Wave Raw for $4.58. Yeah, this is good value. This is fine. This guy is a good player. He's an all-star this year. actually would have expected this to go up a little bit higher, to be honest.
01:03:03.32
Russell Gibson
PSA 9 Silver sold for $35 US. Look, I think there's an argument to be made that you've already missed the investment window because he's been a lot lower than this previously. But I'd also say at the same time too, if you like to see a bit more of a body of work before you get there, well then absolutely.
01:03:19.14
Adz
Yeah.
01:03:19.48
Russell Gibson
like you know This is good. ah There's a rookie red choice card here. Sticker autograph, of course, coming out of Prism for $67 USD. I like these ones actually.
01:03:31.21
Russell Gibson
This is the anniversary card. That's selling for $18 USD. Look, that's all that's all very reasonable.
01:03:34.87
Adz
Yeah.
01:03:36.71
Russell Gibson
I think that that's totally like legit and that's fine.
01:03:40.52
Adz
Yeah.
01:03:40.78
Russell Gibson
ah Moving up. We're up to the top, aren't we? So do we want to do the Grizzlies really quick? Why don't we do a Ja Morant check-in? Because we...
01:03:48.20
Adz
I was going to say, we've got the Grizzlies. Who else is on to tear the tier? The Timberwolves. But yeah. Yeah, the Grizzlies. I like it.
01:03:54.37
Russell Gibson
i't I don't think that the ah the Wolves have done enough to make our top 10 list, to be honest, in the league.
01:03:54.87
Adz
Ja Morant.
01:03:59.89
Adz
I like it. Alright.
01:04:00.30
Russell Gibson
That's my gut feeling.
01:04:00.93
Adz
Alright.
01:04:01.68
Russell Gibson
yeah
01:04:02.93
Adz
Alright. Ja Morant.
01:04:03.11
Russell Gibson
I think we we have to cut off somebody as hard you know as that is for me to say that.
01:04:07.93
Adz
All right, what have we...
01:04:07.72
Russell Gibson
Look, this is a fun one to talk about just because of the all-time stats. So silver PSA 10. currently trading at $300. So what, are you telling me that Austin Reeves is selling for more than Jamarant at the moment?
01:04:19.32
Adz
Damn right he is.
01:04:20.89
Russell Gibson
That's that's ridiculous. You've got to have a really good reason to be buying Austin Reeves for more than Jamarant.
01:04:28.53
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, I just, that that was a weird sale.
01:04:30.96
Russell Gibson
I actually feel like...
01:04:33.04
Adz
Like the the like the previous to that was 135. And I think that was about right.
01:04:36.61
Russell Gibson
Oh, okay. That makes a lot more sense.
01:04:41.52
Adz
So it's like a spike spike, yeah.
01:04:41.87
Russell Gibson
Right. Right.
01:04:44.04
Adz
But it's verified.
01:04:43.82
Russell Gibson
Okay. so even okay So probably what we could have done for that one is just taken the last two and averaged that out. And that would take you around to the sort of mid twos, right?
01:04:51.33
Adz
Yeah.
01:04:52.42
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:04:53.32
Adz
Yeah.
01:04:53.27
Russell Gibson
Okay. That makes a lot more sense. Okay, cool. That could be just be a bad sale.
01:04:57.99
Adz
That's true.
01:04:57.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:04:58.87
Adz
um Jar's jars is sort of holding steady, but he's still down a little bit.
01:05:01.83
Russell Gibson
He's really holding steady, isn't he? Yeah.
01:05:03.77
Adz
Yeah, last three months he's down 13. Um... um
01:05:07.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:05:08.89
Adz
Last month is is about steady. And the last two weeks he's been, he's down a little bit, but from that 400 mark down to 300 mark. But realistically, like the $300 mark over the last couple of years with everything that went on, I think he's still in that suffering and so until, until he starts,
01:05:31.77
Adz
I don't know. Memphis don't seem to be in the spotlight or the conversation at the moment. They are sitting equal second in the in the standings in the West with Houston and and Denver and nobody's talking about them.
01:05:46.93
Adz
They are playing a lot of exciting basketball.
01:05:47.10
Russell Gibson
right, let's do you donovan Donovan Mitchell from the Cavs.
01:05:52.66
Adz
Mm-hmm.
01:05:54.37
Russell Gibson
And then we'll really quickly do um Jason Tatum because we talk about Tatum all the time, but we um we rarely actually um legit comp him.
01:06:04.00
Adz
Check in with these prices.
01:06:05.45
Russell Gibson
We actually just sort of, you know, go back on our sort of what our past recollections were. All right, Donovan Mitchell. This is a very interesting one for me because he's been out of the spotlight for so long in Utah.
01:06:14.10
Adz
He's up.
01:06:15.78
Russell Gibson
Population on this 622.
01:06:16.17
Adz
He's up big.
01:06:17.68
Russell Gibson
Last sold for $300. So basically the same price as Jar Morant. actually I actually, like that a lot. So you've got, The guy who is, you know, not very much substance being Donovan Mitchell, he does have some athleticism, but not as much as Jar, but he's playing on the best team in basketball versus somebody who is, look, they're they're grinding it out and they're playing well at the moment in Memphis, but nowhere way near the amount of success that the Cavaliers are having.
01:06:28.96
Adz
Yeah.
01:06:31.92
Adz
Yeah.
01:06:42.32
Adz
Yeah, for sure.
01:06:42.59
Russell Gibson
um Look, this has been very up and down. Like, if you're looking at the last two years of sales, you know, it's If you're a Donovan Mitchell collector, you know you've had some really hard times. So it's been upped all the way up to $2,300, and then it's been down to $188. So $135 was trading for for a bit.
01:07:01.78
Russell Gibson
Look, if you pick that up at $135, I think you're feeling very great. I think of you if you bought that at the peak of COVID, you're probably not collecting anymore. You've gone on to Pokemon or something like that.
01:07:13.32
Adz
ah True. Well, 12 months ago, this card was $160. It's currently selling for $300. So those that have that have jumped on recently would be happy with the the jump that the card has experienced.
01:07:19.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
01:07:23.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. look i Look, i I was buying Donovan Mitchell because for a while, particularly his select stuff, like people were just giving it away.
01:07:32.31
Adz
Yep.
01:07:33.58
Russell Gibson
Literally, they just wanted to get rid of it. Literally, reckon some of the stuff I picked up was $10, $20, $30.
01:07:37.42
Adz
Be rid of it.
01:07:39.26
Russell Gibson
ten twenty thirty bucks So you know there was a point where he absolutely
01:07:41.25
Adz
Yeah, I agree.
01:07:44.77
Russell Gibson
did you know drop out
01:07:45.95
Adz
Tanked. Yeah.
01:07:46.20
Russell Gibson
And I actually think that was after the Utah trade. So even though he went to a pretty good team, you know that think that was the trigger that sort of set something off on that.
01:07:56.18
Adz
Yeah.
01:07:56.23
Russell Gibson
ah Jason Tatum, we are going to be the anti-Charles Barkley here. Are we the pro-Charles Barkley here?
01:08:05.16
Russell Gibson
We're the pro-Charles, aren't we? Charles would approve of this content.
01:08:09.70
Adz
Charles would love our content, let's be fair.
01:08:09.58
Russell Gibson
Population of this 9.15%.
01:08:12.42
Russell Gibson
population of this is nine fifteen Last sold for $7.07 USD. All-time sales data. This is crazy. So this all-time max is $3,000.
01:08:25.91
Russell Gibson
um Looking at the last three months of data, we are looking at an increase in growth of 3%. So that is literally the status quo there.
01:08:37.93
Adz
Yeah.
01:08:38.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah, look, my opinion of this card is still...
01:08:39.26
Adz
Six months, he's been stable for six months. A year, it's gone down a little bit.
01:08:42.03
Russell Gibson
yeah
01:08:45.16
Adz
I think the 700 mark suits him well.
01:08:48.24
Russell Gibson
This is the best buy in basketball at the moment.
01:08:51.87
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:53.53
Russell Gibson
For dollar for dollar, for consistency.
01:08:54.09
Adz
What's... What other... the
01:08:56.81
Russell Gibson
yeah
01:08:59.33
Adz
Even the green... Oh, no.
01:08:59.77
Russell Gibson
Sorry, mate, I interrupted you.
01:09:01.52
Adz
The green's been pretty steady. No, the green's about the same.
01:09:04.27
Russell Gibson
Oh, you love the green.
01:09:05.77
Adz
but Green's my favorite um Tatum. $1,700 last sold two years. It's lost a bit of value, actually, trading it from $3,000. Now you can pick it up for $1,700. So that green in the sub-2K mark might not be a bad bad something to look at.
01:09:24.84
Russell Gibson
I don't have the love for the green that you do, mate. I actually think it's unnumbered. It's a bit of sort of a gimmicky like thing for me. The population on that could keep climbing up. um you know I think you can't price that more than the silver thinking it's a numbered card.
01:09:40.47
Russell Gibson
like That's my sort of issue with that card. I agree with you on the aesthetics and all that type of stuff.
01:09:42.98
Adz
Whoa, yeah, yeah,
01:09:44.63
Russell Gibson
But for me, that's just like the math doesn't play out is where I'm going with that one. Yeah.
01:09:50.93
Adz
That's fair. That's fair. I'm looking at all the different ones. There's a few green numbered ones, like the numbered to the Pulsar to 25.
01:09:59.51
Adz
That's for selling for 7K. Anyway, that's me going down a rabbit hole with colour matches.
01:10:04.43
Russell Gibson
ah
01:10:07.13
Russell Gibson
Thank you for listening. Thank you to Central Coast Radio. Thank you to you, Adam. Thank you to everyone who contributed to socials this week.
01:10:15.85
Adz
Yeah, thanks to everyone watching us watching us on the YouTube, commenting on.
01:10:15.99
Russell Gibson
You know we love it.
01:10:19.52
Adz
By the way, Anthony Milne, shout out. Saw your comment on one of our recent Timeless Moments. Thank you for all your support um on the YouTube.
01:10:27.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:10:28.54
Adz
and And all our new subscribers, welcome.
01:10:28.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:10:30.60
Adz
So, yeah.
01:10:31.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:10:33.81
Adz
Until next week.
01:10:34.24
Russell Gibson
Alrighty guys.
01:10:35.45
Adz
Have a lovely week, and and we'll see at the Trade Week next week at Fast Break Cards.
01:10:35.42
Russell Gibson
Have a great day.
01:10:44.47
Adz
Done.