Episode 202: Massive Sales, Injuries & Record-Breaking Performances!

This week, we cover a wild mix of hobby and NBA news, including:
 🔥 A Kawhi Leonard sale and a CC 1/1 hitting the market
 🚨 Cam Reddish waived & Time Lord injured
 📉 A bad buyer situation & GameStop drama
 🔥 Jokic drops a historic 61-10-10 & Steph explodes for 52 with 12 threes
 🏀 LeBron's $1M sale & LeBron Kaboom talk
 📚 Manga Checklist Prizm & key sales trends

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00:00:13.62
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 202 of the You Can't Comp, this NBA trading card podcast. we host Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:26.76
Adz
Veterans, we're surely we're veterans after 200 episodes.

00:00:31.24
Russell Gibson
I don't know. what What makes you a veteran? How many episodes would it be?

00:00:34.55
Adz
I don't know, I feel like we're we're we're in... Not many, I don't know. I feel like there's there's a lot of podcasts out there that go a long time, but there's also a lot of podcasts that are dead and buried by 200.

00:00:46.03
Adz
but two hundred There are plenty that make don't make 100. Yeah,

00:00:48.63
Russell Gibson
Well, the magic number is 20. Most podcasts, once they get to 20, that's it. They don't come back.

00:00:53.69
Adz
yeah well, we are much more persistent than that. We're at 202 and still here.

00:00:57.39
Russell Gibson
That's right.

00:00:59.00
Adz
stuck and we're still here

00:00:59.75
Russell Gibson
That's right. Yeah.

00:01:02.94
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:01:03.20
Adz
there's

00:01:03.26
Russell Gibson
Well, hello everyone at home.

00:01:04.19
Adz
let's get stuck into it

00:01:06.20
Russell Gibson
Hope you're all well.

00:01:07.27
Adz
Yes, hello to everybody on YouTube, everyone listening on Central Coast Radio or on on Spotify, YouTube Podcasts, a Google Podcasts, whatever podcasting platform you're listening to us on.

00:01:19.67
Russell Gibson
We don't care. Thank you.

00:01:20.86
Adz
We just appreciate you listening to us.

00:01:22.75
Russell Gibson
Yep. Hey, why don't we do a bit of a warm-up today, just talking just hoops in general, because was a bunch of stuff that you put into the sheet today that you were pretty keen to talk about, so why don't you tell us about the Steph Curry game, and while you're doing that, I'll try and find a cool Steph Curry card to talk about at the end, and then we'll do Yo Kick after that, yeah.

00:01:31.67
Adz
There's some crazy games of basketball.

00:01:41.44
Adz
That works. um All right, I'm just going to delve into the box score from one of today's games. And by today, I mean Wednesday, the 2nd of April, time of recording.

00:01:51.83
Russell Gibson
Actually, we should probably talk about that. Yeah. So guys, if you are listening to us, we recorded this on Wednesday night, Australian time. Adam and i going to have the weekend off this weekend.

00:02:01.19
Adz
Yeah, we're going enjoy a bit of a relaxing weekend.

00:02:02.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:02:03.79
Adz
So we're, i mean, recording in advance, but well, Steph Curry ah definitely was...

00:02:04.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:02:10.89
Adz
doing something in advance, because he dropped 52 points. 52, 10, and eight with five

00:02:20.88
Adz
shooting sixty percent from three hitting twelve from twenty

00:02:27.27
Adz
like what kind of what kind of crazy numbers ah it's

00:02:34.10
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:02:34.29
Adz
yeah

00:02:35.41
Russell Gibson
I get what you're saying. it's It's quite hard to put into words how good the guy is, but yeah.

00:02:39.04
Adz
It's Steph Curry, like we're still like, wow, this guy, for anyone that isn't aware, Steph Curry's really good at shooting the three point shot.

00:02:48.11
Russell Gibson
I think he's the greatest in-game shooter ever. He might not be the greatest shooter, like if you you know put people up just to set shots, but I think in terms of his skill in a game, it's just ridiculous what that guy does. and

00:03:01.42
Adz
Completely agree.

00:03:01.65
Russell Gibson
He's been doing it such a long time now too. That's the other thing that's really, you have to give him some kudos for.

00:03:06.30
Adz
Consistently. Well, he's the only person to hit over 4,000, so...

00:03:06.94
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:03:10.57
Russell Gibson
Kept his body in amazing shape.

00:03:11.58
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:12.20
Russell Gibson
It's good to see.

00:03:12.93
Adz
It's incredible.

00:03:15.20
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, card-wise. Look, we've already we talked about Steph the last what last episode, really, the last full episode. So it's a little bit of a tricky one.

00:03:22.65
Adz
feel like we're always talking about always talking about st so...

00:03:26.95
Russell Gibson
I found this one, though. This is something we've not spoken about ever. So this is 2009. This is from the set called Classics, which I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not uber familiar with this.

00:03:39.90
Adz
This is like last episode when you didn't want to talk about the Bowman 48.

00:03:40.22
Russell Gibson
ah

00:03:42.98
Adz
Like it's such a deep dive.

00:03:45.38
Russell Gibson
Well, ah I would rather talk about this than a college uniform card, honestly.

00:03:49.80
Adz
That's fair. That's very fair.

00:03:50.61
Russell Gibson
ah

00:03:53.18
Russell Gibson
This one's Beckett 9.5, autographed to 10. It's an on-card autograph. And it's real funny, this photo, because that looks like a ah retro uniform. then I sort of realized that's like it's a retro uniform they're using today. But obviously, they're throwing it back back then too. so that's kind of nice little card.

00:04:12.87
Russell Gibson
Look, I think the the picture on this is great. The graphics on this is really cool. Pricing on this is going to be a bit of an interesting one. this last sold for 6,000 actually is a rookie year autograph or a rookie card autograph.

00:04:26.28
Russell Gibson
You can say either way on that population. This one 69 actually looking at the, the data, actually it's, it's been moving quite a bit. So in the last three months we've had two sales and last six months we've had, what's that five sales in the last year, maybe that's like 12 or 15, something like that.

00:04:38.77
Adz
yeah

00:04:46.79
Russell Gibson
So, it definitely gets around. Okay, look, that was a good one to sort of add to your knowledge bank of Steph Curry rookie cards that are out there that aren't uber expensive.

00:04:51.92
Adz
Something different, yeah.

00:05:00.73
Adz
aren Aren't the are the standard one, I guess, is the...

00:05:06.37
Russell Gibson
Interesting on that, actually. so the 9.5 $6,000. The PSA is it's so... <unk> obviously it's more but at the same time it's not crazy hi either so

00:05:17.72
Adz
one's numbered to $4.99, isn't

00:05:20.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:05:21.39
Adz
there's a few out there. There's actually a BGS 10 black.

00:05:27.25
Adz
That's black label, five of them.

00:05:32.19
Adz
Wow.

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Russell Gibson
That's an outlier, isn't it?

00:05:33.70
Adz
Mm, bit different.

00:05:35.52
Russell Gibson
All right. Talk to us about your kick because that's the other guy that you put into the list. I think this is definitely worth talking about.

00:05:39.15
Adz
but Yeah, i I did see some some pretty insane box scores today. And yeah, it was double overtime. But Jokic bringing up a 61-point triple-double and still not getting the win against the Minnesota Timberwolves.

00:05:53.06
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:05:59.02
Adz
Courtesy of former Laker Russell Westbrook having a brain fade at the end of the game. So...

00:06:04.87
Russell Gibson
That doesn't sound like something Westbrook would do.

00:06:05.04
Adz
ru Russ helping still still helping the Lakers on their vying for position at the end of the postseason. ha.

00:06:16.04
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, I've got an Instagram post going next week. It's just a picture of Jokic. I can't remember what card. I think I had a timeless moment card and the caption is really simple. The best player in basketball.

00:06:27.09
Russell Gibson
So Adam, you' you've got complete deniability on this. I definitely put that post up. You didn't. But that's that's how I feel about this guy this year. You know, we can talk about Luka until the cows come home. We can talk about LeBron.

00:06:37.14
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:06:38.40
Russell Gibson
We talk about SGA. But for me, the best guy in basketball at the moment is Jokic. And he's just so good.

00:06:42.30
Adz
Is Nick? well Yeah. Yeah. I argued this on a friend's podcast not very long ago. We we talked about

00:06:50.66
Russell Gibson
you know drop the name of this Friends podcast? You might as well, mate. You don't need to tiptoe around it

00:06:53.40
Adz
It's called. It's called Three Old Guys Talking Ball um and it's two of my high school mates. we we We have a good chat about the NBA and this week we talked about the NBA awards and our predictions and and what we thought.

00:07:09.27
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:07:09.49
Adz
um And i very was very vocal arguing that and I did i may have coined it the Joel Embiid rule um saying that Nikola Jokic is a very deserving, should win the MVP this year, but and I'm invoking the Joel Embiid rule, and SGA will win it for narrative.

00:07:25.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:07:32.56
Adz
And I'm i'm sorry, SGA's had a phenomenal season, but there's daylight between Jokic and everybody else. As far as that man, there's nothing he can't do.

00:07:43.20
Adz
The plus minus, how valuable to a team do you need to be that when you're off the floor, they're terrible, and when when you're on the floor, they're the best team going around.

00:07:43.72
Russell Gibson
us

00:07:53.59
Russell Gibson
This guy's an absolute maniac, honestly.

00:07:55.93
Adz
Yep. Because the Thunder can win without SGA.

00:08:00.79
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, so the card I found for Yo-Kick, which is a card we haven't spoken about, I'm pretty sure. 2015 Immaculate RPA. Beautiful layout of the card.

00:08:11.79
Russell Gibson
Fantastic autograph that Yo-Kick has laid down to this. And also have a triple-coloured patch, which has got that beautiful kind of like canary yellow slash gold colour in it, which I really quite like that.

00:08:15.26
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:08:23.90
Russell Gibson
Look, comps on this are a little bit tricky because the PSA 10 hasn't sold... since 2018. So, you know, that that's really hard to get a bit of a grasp on.

00:08:30.61
Adz
Mmm.

00:08:32.81
Russell Gibson
But if you want to look at...

00:08:33.50
Adz
We can go based on the Yeah.

00:08:35.35
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so looking at the ROAS, which is a really good... Maybe what you could use is just the trend on that. So since 2021, that has gone from 1,500 all the way up to 6,100 and then down to 4,000.

00:08:40.52
Adz
yeah

00:08:49.99
Russell Gibson
So I think if you are... So this is a really good comp, actually. Let's just comp this straight up so we can go... The raw Jokic to 99. And then we got the Steph Curry.

00:09:02.75
Russell Gibson
Even if we talk about the BGS 9.5, that sold for 6,000.

00:09:05.76
Adz
Mmm.

00:09:08.91
Russell Gibson
So actually, that's a really fun one because like probably at the end of the day, ah as much as I love Jokic, I'd probably go for the Steph Curry. Yeah.

00:09:18.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:19.60
Russell Gibson
I do love a good RPA and obviously I love Yoki, but yeah, with that, the price difference between those two is not that great. And also then you're getting the grading factored in with the Steph one too. So maybe this classics card is a little bit of pocket of value.

00:09:35.71
Adz
Oh, that's an interesting thought, the 6K.

00:09:40.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:09:42.06
Adz
Yeah, i think I think there's value there for sure.

00:09:44.57
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:09:46.58
Adz
and don't know.

00:09:46.97
Russell Gibson
Even if it's ah like a lesser set, and I'm saying that with air quotes, it's still an on-card autograph.

00:09:50.10
Adz
oh Yeah.

00:09:52.22
Russell Gibson
Photography is still great. Numbered. There's a lot to like there. All right.

00:09:57.58
Adz
I don't know. If I get the that iMac Jokic cheaper than 10K, I think I'd be taking it.

00:10:05.13
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:10:05.88
Adz
The PSA 9 is 10,000, so there's ah there's a good benchmark of where things are at.

00:10:12.40
Russell Gibson
Caitlin Clark, one of one. so this is from SportsCardInvestor, know, look. think we're all on the record how much we hate about sports card investor, but at the same time too, they do do some good content.

00:10:18.71
Adz
Yeah, that's that's enough said on that.

00:10:23.95
Russell Gibson
So I have to reference it if I'm stealing it.

00:10:25.25
Adz
Mm.

00:10:28.08
Russell Gibson
So this is significant for a couple of reasons. Obviously it's Caitlin Clark. It's obviously it's a one of one from Prism.

00:10:33.15
Adz
oh

00:10:33.92
Russell Gibson
It's PSA 10. That's amazing too. And then the sold listing price was $366,000. Like this stuff really makes my head hurt. You know, obviously I'm excited about WNBA. I love WNBA.

00:10:48.16
Adz
Yeah.

00:10:48.31
Russell Gibson
I love breaking the cards for people. you know, I think it's a really correct price point for people that want to get in collect cards. Obviously this last 12 months is a completely different story, but before all of this, you know, craziness has been happening. That's what it has been like. But so this is also significant. In addition to all of that, it's the most expensive ah women's trading card ever.

00:11:12.05
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:12.11
Russell Gibson
and not by a small margin, by like $100,000, which is moving at Serena Williams from number one to number two.

00:11:22.22
Russell Gibson
I just think this is just keeps reinforcing to me how much stock people are putting into this young lady and also to, I'm hoping, this is going to show the future of you know women's professional basketball.

00:11:34.91
Russell Gibson
So in terms of collectibles, popularity, maybe them getting a bit more remuneration into their pockets, all that type of stuff.

00:11:35.89
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:42.15
Adz
Yeah.

00:11:42.74
Russell Gibson
So look, I'm... Obviously, it's it's very bittersweet for me because I think you know those type of prices really drive up the box prices you know even more. But at the same time, too, I think in terms of just the hobby in general, and you know we make jokes about all the hobbies dead and da-da-da-da-da. Clearly, if you've got someone who... I think you're still fringe. like Let's be honest.

00:12:03.63
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:03.86
Russell Gibson
would still put her behind Jordan, LeBron, Kobe,

00:12:03.91
Adz
True. True.

00:12:09.86
Russell Gibson
Steph Curry. you know what I mean? So it's like to get that much cash behind her, it's to me, it's quite it's it's wild even for me.

00:12:17.42
Adz
yeah yeah well uh anthony milton is joining us in the chat right now and says it's so it's sold by golden says a lot doesn't make sense if this is better than any mj auto out there do know what mean like it's yeah yeah it's like what the hell's going on e are you telling me you'd rather this than an mj auto

00:12:17.49
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:12:21.50
Russell Gibson
Hello, Anthony.

00:12:30.12
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right. 100%. I think that's a very valid comp. Yeah.

00:12:39.77
Adz
And I'm sure someone, it's a one of one. It's it's it's tough to grade with one of ones, but the is it the first rookie one of one for her?

00:12:48.14
Russell Gibson
So there is other cards that came out before that. Select came out before Prism and then she did a whole bunch of draft pick sort of stuff.

00:12:51.36
Adz
Yeah.

00:12:57.09
Russell Gibson
Then she had her own products, obviously. like There's a lot of Caitlin Clark autos out there.

00:12:58.99
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just struggling to justify how this is better than Jordan Autos. Like the limited print run, like Jordan Autos. I get it's rookie year, but still, that that's Jordan we're talking about.

00:13:12.91
Russell Gibson
So I think the answer is is that she's going to be the best in her category.

00:13:17.14
Adz
Sure.

00:13:17.21
Russell Gibson
I think that's what people are prospecting on.

00:13:19.64
Adz
Sure.

00:13:20.36
Russell Gibson
And so, plus also maybe also the fact that she's ah woman and maybe they've been waiting for that to come along to you know to jump in on. like Maybe that's the the thing that they collect.

00:13:30.38
Adz
True.

00:13:30.64
Russell Gibson
They're into women athletes.

00:13:30.74
Adz
And you're right. And this and this could be – this is historical, iconic.

00:13:33.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:13:35.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:13:36.02
Adz
You're right. They're a –

00:13:36.83
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:13:40.04
Adz
There are other narratives at play that have impacted this card. So we shouldn't be just blindly comparing to MJ, I guess, maybe.

00:13:47.06
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:13:48.10
Adz
Good point. Thanks, Anthony.

00:13:49.06
Russell Gibson
So going from the most, you know, you might argue iconic female athlete in the game to maybe one of the most misunderstood athletes of our time.

00:14:02.74
Russell Gibson
We're going to talk about the 2012 Panini Prism, Khoai Leonard. Why do I want to talk about this? Look, I think it's good to talk about Khoai Leonard cards because He's not overly collected and his resume is, in my opinion, one like the best ever.

00:14:18.85
Russell Gibson
And I would actually like to do a deep dive into quiet Leonard one day, maybe do a timeless moment on him. That's like how much respect I've got for the guy.

00:14:24.16
Adz
Wow, okay. And then you're like, it's a resume. Yeah, okay, okay.

00:14:27.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And I also think too, like for his resume and how much he's not collected or, you know, people, you know, don't get into him.

00:14:30.49
Adz
The Kauai journey, yeah.

00:14:35.34
Russell Gibson
And that's also a little bit on him too. Like he doesn't sign or he's very infrequently signed over the years. So That's a tough one. But what I really like to see here is just the absolute skyrocket on this. So this has basically gone from a $500 card all the way up to 2,600.

00:14:51.87
Russell Gibson
Population on this is just five. There wasn't a whole, there wasn't 88 different parallels from that year. What was there? 10. Yep. Yep.

00:14:58.92
Adz
Not many. No, rainbows were like eight. It was not much. Like there's no, there's yeah, yeah. Yeah, 2012, not full of it.

00:15:05.81
Russell Gibson
So anyway, just at one to froth over a little bit. I think that's a really good one.

00:15:08.65
Adz
That is, that's a nice one.

00:15:09.29
Russell Gibson
And

00:15:10.93
Adz
Good headline.

00:15:11.05
Russell Gibson
It's good for Quai Leonard collectors who have been out there. This next one for me is a little bit of a regretful one. This is about Cam Reddish. This is from Shams. The Lakers are waving Cam Reddish to make space for Jordan Goodwin.

00:15:25.36
Russell Gibson
So I was actually listening to the broadcast the other day and they were talking about Jordan Goodwin, how much the Lakers have fallen in love with this kid and he's come through their...

00:15:32.60
Adz
His effort, his impact.

00:15:34.24
Russell Gibson
yeah, their G League program, they put him onto a two-way contract and dah, dah, dah, dah.

00:15:34.46
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:39.01
Russell Gibson
And they they've just like, love this kid to death. And for me, what I wanted to talk about was Cam Reddish just in general.

00:15:42.24
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:45.61
Russell Gibson
So I think we should quickly just jump onto to Card Letter.

00:15:48.48
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:49.10
Russell Gibson
Because this kid came out of college and was highly touted. People were putting buckets of money into this kid.

00:15:57.45
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:15:58.60
Russell Gibson
And so let's look at the all-time sales on CamRate. So this rookie card PSA 10 once sold for $548. It currently trading at $8. Population this currently is $557. eight dollars population on this currently is five hundred and fifty seven Um, yeah. So the card ladder value is $8 and four cents and it's currently trading at $8 and one cent. So you have the potential to get three cents worth of value.

00:16:25.86
Russell Gibson
If you were to go out and pick it up now, look, I'm, I'm out on this kid. i think the lake is waving him is actually going to be disastrous for his career. I think he might be.

00:16:35.91
Adz
I think it's the end of his career.

00:16:37.10
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:16:37.87
Adz
I actually think it's the end of his career. The Lakers threw him a lifeline. He was a good role. He had a role playing element. I guess he just slipped off.

00:16:44.33
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:16:45.47
Adz
and Yeah, he can be out of the league pretty quick.

00:16:48.40
Russell Gibson
i I'm trying to think of a comp with this guy that in terms of talent-wise and his body, and he's a really tricky one because he's a freak athlete, but also has an insane amount of talent. The one I'm sort of thinking about, which is not a great one because he's not as good of a scorer, is Kamalo Anthony.

00:17:05.41
Adz
Wow, okay.

00:17:05.56
Russell Gibson
like That's how high... I am on this kid in terms of overall talent and how much he could have, what could have been. I think that's the best way to say it.

00:17:14.75
Adz
Wow, yeah, okay.

00:17:16.43
Russell Gibson
Listeners at home, what's your comp for, for Radish? Because there's, there's probably a better one out there than Kamalo Anthony. I'm sure there is, but that's the one that comes to mind straight away. So.

00:17:27.48
Adz
Cam Reddish. Yeah, I don't know. It was, he was, it was highly Who's someone else that sort of went down that, on that spiral journey, Dennis Smith Jr.

00:17:41.99
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I don't think he had as much talent.

00:17:43.71
Adz
He didn't, he didn't get the, um he didn't get the the resurrection, I guess, Dennis Smith Jr., so.

00:17:50.27
Russell Gibson
I think Dennis Smith Jr. was a little bit different because a lot of his game was dependent on his athleticism. And then i think he had two or three lots of knee surgery.

00:18:00.44
Adz
and Oh, Anthony Milne, comment. ah Reddish, Knox, and Culvert are in the same stock market.

00:18:08.58
Russell Gibson
Knox, yeah.

00:18:11.53
Russell Gibson
Knox, I actually think is a bit unfortunate. I think in the right situation, he would have been fine league. He's a 3 and D guy. He was very athletic. he just I think he just got off to the wrong start because the Knicks expected a lot from him.

00:18:21.65
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:22.92
Russell Gibson
you know All right.

00:18:23.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:25.30
Russell Gibson
Let's go to a break. Thank you very much to Game Time International for supporting the show. We're very honored that you'd be on board with us. The main reason we reached out to you for sponsorship is because we love your products. So, magnetics that are literally presented to you in a flawless manner.

00:18:43.04
Adz
Yeah.

00:18:43.37
Russell Gibson
The main thing I want to talk about is the way that they've developed the technology around the penny sleeve inside of the... the magnetic. So that protects the surface of your card.

00:18:52.15
Adz
Yep.

00:18:53.90
Russell Gibson
Obviously gives you more protection on the edges in addition to the one touch, the way that's laid out to also protect your corners.

00:19:01.56
Adz
yeah

00:19:02.40
Russell Gibson
The other thing to really quickly mention too, is the removable plastic film. So when they come out of the packet, they've actually got another layer of protection on that. So when you remove that, it's absolutely pristine and you have the perfectly clear view of your card inside your magnetic.

00:19:17.61
Adz
Yep. yep

00:19:18.87
Russell Gibson
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00:19:31.21
Russell Gibson
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00:19:50.82
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, Ad, how are you doing, buddy?

00:19:52.44
Adz
I'm good. I'm good. What is next on the on the news docket?

00:19:58.65
Russell Gibson
I think we should talk about GameStop. And the reason we should is because often Australia will follow similar trends to what is happening in America. So basically... GameStop's collectible revenue was up to $100 million dollars in quarter four, making up 20% of the total net sale.

00:20:13.84
Adz
Yep.

00:20:16.53
Russell Gibson
So why is this important? I think as video games transition out of hard copies onto streaming services or even just you know downloading them off the servers of your you know your PlayStation Switch or whatever, I think the relevant example for us is EB Games.

00:20:25.51
Adz
yeah

00:20:33.06
Adz
I was going to say, what what's the equivalent of GameStop? we don't have GameStop in Australia, but we have EB Games and and like yeah electronic boutique.

00:20:36.62
Russell Gibson
We don't have GameStop, but Yeah.

00:20:42.05
Adz
Is that the...

00:20:42.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:20:43.27
Adz
yeah

00:20:43.56
Russell Gibson
And I think if we're being honest about it we're sort of thinking about it, you can definitely see that they're not as popular as they used to be. You know, they're not as full as many people when you you go there anymore.

00:20:54.19
Russell Gibson
The one local to me is shut down altogether. It's just disappeared.

00:20:57.13
Adz
Really?

00:20:57.91
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah. So the one on Chapel Street, gone.

00:20:59.63
Adz
Interesting.

00:21:00.57
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:21:00.61
Adz
Interesting.

00:21:00.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:21:01.33
Adz
i've i've got a um I've got one around the corner and then there's another couple in the city. So there's a few because I'm in ah in the CBD.

00:21:07.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:21:09.82
Adz
But the my local one, funnily enough, I went in the other day and they had Pokemon and Magic the Gathering singles available for purchase.

00:21:18.29
Russell Gibson
Right. And I think this is what we should be talking about. Yeah.

00:21:21.30
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:22.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And the way I also think about this a little bit too is JB Hi-Fi, where they were a dedicated music shop and then they've transitioned to to selling other stuff.

00:21:31.81
Adz
they've They've diversified.

00:21:34.24
Russell Gibson
Electronics, coffee machines, vacuum cleaners. And so I think that's what EB Games is going to do, just like what GameStop has done too. so Look, i always, you know, I think it's better if people do well and all that.

00:21:50.27
Russell Gibson
I don't think it's good for the economy for shops to be going broke, particularly big companies like EB Games. So if that is the transition they make and they already started to do that, to me, that makes a whole lot of sense.

00:21:54.99
Adz
Yeah.

00:22:00.94
Russell Gibson
And I also think, too, in terms of, you know, buying power and the contracts they must already have in place and also just the So if you think about how they're sort of spread out over Australia, if they're then buying and selling cards and they've got processes in place for that, it actually almost seems like a quick win.

00:22:20.10
Russell Gibson
You know, you've already got the bricks and mortars there.

00:22:22.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:22:23.04
Russell Gibson
You've already got the staff there, all that type of stuff. So why couldn't you ah up up train them and and get that done?

00:22:26.63
Adz
Transition. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, e EB Games for us anyway was was is a platform where sort of that basketball hobby rate retail, the retail product is available.

00:22:40.01
Russell Gibson
Definitely.

00:22:40.49
Adz
um I remember through through when we came out of COVID, I remember cursing the bots, I think was that everyone's favorite thing.

00:22:47.76
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah. It was a thing, wasn't it?

00:22:49.73
Adz
eBay free ebae games pre-sales, the bots were cleaning them up and and it was that was where the resellers were trying to go.

00:22:52.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:22:58.43
Russell Gibson
They sold them at very reasonable prices. Yeah, people were jumping in there and flipping them out 100%. Yeah.

00:23:02.89
Adz
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty crazy. but But there's still products.

00:23:04.98
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:23:05.94
Adz
Like, obviously, you get you get your Disney, your Locarno, your Pokemon, your Magic, all the all the games.

00:23:12.26
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:23:12.29
Adz
But then you see soccer cards and and a few basketball.

00:23:12.48
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:23:15.41
Adz
There's hoops and stuff there, but the variety they had pri is is not as plentiful at EB. But I'm sure that'll change.

00:23:23.76
Russell Gibson
yeah ah This is a bit of a funny one. This is from Lamine James. This one could be real, could be a joke. This is a buyer started a return process. The comments are the reason why i could not move this at any of my card shows this weekend and last non-liquid.

00:23:40.58
Russell Gibson
I apologize for the inconvenience. So I would absolutely say this is a dud buyer. This is absolutely a reason to not return somebody their money.

00:23:52.38
Adz
Reason for a turn changed my mind.

00:23:59.25
Russell Gibson
I sort of consider that to be almost like an interest-free loan on a card, though, too, if he does return it back.

00:24:03.87
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:04.77
Russell Gibson
So he's taken the card, tried to sell it. on I know can't do it.

00:24:07.44
Adz
No one wants it. Bugger that.

00:24:13.82
Russell Gibson
There's no way that should be returned, though, by the way.

00:24:17.22
Adz
Agreed. Agreed.

00:24:18.02
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, let's talk a bit more card porn. Kobe Bryant downtown. Now, in the last episode, we were talking about Kobe, and I don't think I emphasized this enough. I think moving into the next few years, Kobe Bryant is someone who's going to have a lot more movement.

00:24:35.44
Russell Gibson
And I think even though it's really tempting to flip some of his stuff out at the moment because of how high the prices are going, I think this is not the peak of the amount. I think this is this might be the middle or...

00:24:48.07
Russell Gibson
three quarters, 70%.

00:24:48.15
Adz
A tier of sorts.

00:24:48.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:24:49.47
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:49.89
Russell Gibson
yeah Yeah. But honestly, yeah.

00:24:50.89
Adz
There's a jump, but... 18, 18 quarters.

00:24:52.81
Russell Gibson
And I think here's another, you know, really good example why. So this is the downtown card from 2008 Cornerstones 2018. eighteen Sorry. I said 2008.

00:25:01.75
Adz
eighteen ye eighteen cho

00:25:02.39
Russell Gibson
I meant to say 18. That is one of my favorite products ever. It was just such a good product.

00:25:06.92
Adz
Yeah, corner size is great.

00:25:08.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah, the cards were nice out of Like you would almost argue the base cards out of that were sort of very similar to NT cards.

00:25:16.13
Adz
Yeah, it felt, yeah.

00:25:17.29
Russell Gibson
Then you also had the quad patches in it. And then in addition to that, you had the KC's, which was the downtown. Like just what a product.

00:25:24.67
Adz
Quality, quality for product.

00:25:26.33
Russell Gibson
That was Luca too.

00:25:29.30
Adz
Was it?

00:25:30.05
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:25:30.89
Adz
Really? Yeah.

00:25:32.12
Russell Gibson
So Kobe downtowns, Luca RPAs.

00:25:35.08
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:25:37.05
Russell Gibson
Like what a product. Anyway, back to Kobe, this last sold for $4,000. I actually don't have a problem with this. I think that's a really good buy.

00:25:46.37
Adz
Yeah.

00:25:47.17
Russell Gibson
i think the bigger problem here is it's bit like me with Yoki.

00:25:48.33
Adz
Solid.

00:25:50.75
Russell Gibson
we're We're just too late. You know, we've, we've let this train sort of go off and yeah.

00:25:55.51
Adz
Ship has sailed. Sorry. Sorry for those that want to jump on board.

00:25:59.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:00.34
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:00.36
Russell Gibson
So I think the other thing too, that's probably pressing Kobe up in the very short term, and there's a documentary coming out on Netflix.

00:26:07.44
Adz
I was going to say Netflix are ah looking to do something, aren't they?

00:26:10.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah. i I don't think that's not related with this current price rise. i think it is related. I don't think it's the total reason why, but I think, you know, you do need to factor that in a little bit.

00:26:18.41
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. What's an impact? it's It's a spotlight. It's being shot on Kobe. so

00:26:26.66
Russell Gibson
We are not sponsored by Netflix. However, I'm going to say some very positive things about them. They make excellent documentaries.

00:26:34.12
Adz
I have to say, I finally got round to to the starting five doco. So, enjoying it.

00:26:38.65
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I love true crime and there are some fantastic true crime documentaries on there. Honestly, like just brilliant, brilliant stuff. Yeah.

00:26:47.74
Adz
While we're plugging streaming services, have you checked out ESPN on Disney Plus?

00:26:49.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:53.30
Russell Gibson
I don't have Disney, but when I was driving home the other day, I saw this enormous billboard with them advertising it. And now it's just coming.

00:26:59.77
Adz
Nick Kyrgios is the poster boy for it. It's

00:27:02.32
Russell Gibson
It's coming onto my YouTube and into my podcast, you know, ads, all that type of stuff. Yeah.

00:27:05.88
Adz
like, get on it.

00:27:06.00
Russell Gibson
So they're going to be flogging the life out of that, which is great. Like seeing LeBron in three stories high, it's actually, it's an insane ad.

00:27:09.40
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:14.44
Russell Gibson
It's, it's fantastic.

00:27:14.98
Adz
It is pretty good. It's pretty good.

00:27:17.16
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, guys, if you're sitting at home and waiting to put on your tinfoil hat as we go through a conspiracy theory, now's the time. We'll give you a few seconds. put on your hat. This is from Shams.

00:27:28.92
Russell Gibson
This a bit of a sad story. Damien Lillard has sustained a DVT in his right calf. Lillard is on blood thinning medication, which has stabilized the blood clot and will continue with regular testing.

00:27:41.66
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:27:41.75
Russell Gibson
So if you'd like to hear more information about this, and if you'd like to hear from this from professionals who are breaking this down, so go on to

00:27:52.70
Russell Gibson
ah The Brian Windhorse podcast. So they broke this down on Friday's episode, I think it was. I don't think it was on the most recent one. I think it was on the one before. And actually what they described was he was complaining about calf discomfort.

00:28:08.37
Russell Gibson
So the initial plan was to treat him for a calf injury. When they sent him off for imaging, then they then found it. So it was actually... they were doing like their due deal.

00:28:15.86
Adz
It's a clot or...

00:28:17.08
Russell Gibson
Yeah. They're doing their due diligence and they were like, you know, sit doing the right thing, but they were kind of like, well, you know, lucky we didn't just sort of send him off massage and, you know, stretching, dah, dah, dah, dah. Cause that, that would have been absolutely the worst thing you could have done. So,

00:28:30.96
Adz
I'm familiar with the injury.

00:28:32.73
Russell Gibson
A few people in the comments, and I was reading up on a couple of different forums, so I'm sort of summarizing a few different pieces into this like one little bit, but um some people saying it's dehydration, some people are saying it's um anti-inflammatory use, and then if you've got some people talking linking it back to the COVID vaccine.

00:28:50.60
Russell Gibson
And this is the actually the one that I'm so i'm really genuinely surprised there's not more chatter about COVID vaccines and athletes ah having DVT, because So I do not have the numbers for this and I'm not trying to fuel any sort of fire, but like I feel like the last two years we've had so more DVTs than can remember the 10 years before that.

00:29:15.48
Russell Gibson
So we had one of the Thompson twins have it.

00:29:16.43
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:18.15
Russell Gibson
Obviously we've had Wemby. We've got Lillard. There was another player we spoke about recently. But then before that, when when we ran through this, I feel like maybe there was Chris Bosch,

00:29:29.07
Adz
Mmm. Bosh was the first main red, yeah.

00:29:31.56
Russell Gibson
Then there was another one sort of ah couple years before that, and that was sort of it. like It seems to be relatively something that's happening more lately, but maybe we're just going through a run and it's a small number.

00:29:38.65
Adz
Mmm.

00:29:42.54
Adz
Maybe it's just an easy injury to to to say, oh, i don't want I want to sit out for the season. Is he got ah is he torn anything? Nah, just call it a dvt

00:29:51.37
Russell Gibson
I would say for him, that's not where he's at in his career. Like he very kindly requested a trade to a contender, which the Blazers gave to him.

00:29:55.40
Adz
a DVT. I agree, I'm just...

00:30:00.72
Russell Gibson
I still A plus on that. And I think he wants a championship and this is it.

00:30:03.96
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:05.77
Russell Gibson
Now this ruins his season. And actually the Bucks were starting to play pretty good basketball.

00:30:10.00
Adz
Yeah, I don't... ah Yeah, it's...

00:30:11.35
Russell Gibson
Giannis is playing awesome.

00:30:16.23
Russell Gibson
The Bucks are currently sixth in the East at 41 and 34. It's not setting the world on fire, but yeah.

00:30:25.54
Adz
know I don't know. feel like... If the thinners stabilised the clot, then is that going to... allow him to play? He's out for the season.

00:30:34.33
Russell Gibson
No. I think the answer is no.

00:30:37.20
Adz
Health management. Yeah, okay.

00:30:38.47
Russell Gibson
i mean, we we have to wait and see because technically it's not been announced.

00:30:42.11
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:42.80
Russell Gibson
But my prediction is no, he won't be back this season and he might even miss a little bit of time next year.

00:30:48.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:48.58
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's a stinker. All right, have we got time to do one more quickie?

00:30:51.48
Adz
I don't like it.

00:30:55.77
Adz
Yeah, we've got time for one more.

00:30:57.34
Russell Gibson
Yep. All righty. So this is a bit of an interesting one, actually, and the timing on this is relatively good because the last time we spoke about LeBron, we didn't have the opportunity to talk about a one million dollars a recent $1 million sale.

00:31:12.62
Adz
Ah, yes.

00:31:14.38
Russell Gibson
So this is the exquisite rookie patch autograph of LeBron James. It got back up to a million-dollar card just on the weekend.

00:31:24.56
Adz
Yep.

00:31:26.68
Russell Gibson
All right, I've got a couple of thoughts about this, but I'll do the really high up one at the moment. It's really interesting to me at the moment because some people in the hobby is saying, ah the hobby is dead.

00:31:37.09
Russell Gibson
We're not doing well. Things are terrible at the moment. Panini is ruining the hobby. Print runs are up, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:31:41.13
Adz
Of course. It's obvious really when you look at it. obviously Look at this.

00:31:44.81
Russell Gibson
Box prices are coming down. Sometimes they're going up. Just depends on the product a little bit. ah people are having trouble selling singles.

00:31:56.01
Adz
Yep.

00:31:56.16
Russell Gibson
There's not a lot of return coming out of boxes. You know, that's the sort of the negative side of it.

00:32:02.16
Adz
It's an absolute disaster.

00:32:02.56
Russell Gibson
But my my observation is though at the moment is that the right cards are selling for high and sometimes even too high. And so, like, I don't think this is too high, but what I think is significant is the timing of this sale.

00:32:16.65
Adz
Mm.

00:32:18.66
Russell Gibson
Like considering, you know, people saying,

00:32:18.85
Adz
Yeah.

00:32:21.65
Russell Gibson
Some people are out there saying how bad that the hobby is. Well, actually, we just spoke about a huge Caitlin Clark sale.

00:32:26.75
Adz
But context people. Yeah.

00:32:29.36
Russell Gibson
We're now talking about a million dollar sale on this. And I'll link this in and we'll talk about it more later on. But there was also a sale from SGA. And when I looked at it, I was like, that is insane.

00:32:42.26
Adz
Yeah.

00:32:42.93
Russell Gibson
Like the price of that thing.

00:32:43.19
Adz
and Yeah, SGA prices are going through the roof. there's Yeah.

00:32:46.51
Russell Gibson
$150,000. Yeah. yeah The commas are at $150,000. Yeah, $150,000 for his gold to 10. Like, for me, that is like that is so crazy. Actually, I'm stuttering a little bit.

00:33:02.41
Adz
Yeah.

00:33:02.51
Russell Gibson
And so, look, I think there's nothing wrong with the LeBron being at that price, by the way, because we've seen Lucas at that price when I'm definitely stealing from you now, but you know then what has he done?

00:33:14.70
Adz
Yeah.

00:33:15.02
Russell Gibson
And so to see that at a million, I'm i'm actually like, look, that is to me, that's totally fine. You know, the only thing I worry about it though is the pop count on that because I can't actually see what the numbering is on this.

00:33:26.85
Adz
To 99 by the look of it.

00:33:28.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Whereas the the Luca that went for a million was the one of one. So that's completely different.

00:33:35.89
Adz
That's a LeBron rookie.

00:33:38.54
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but there's a hundred.

00:33:39.20
Adz
LeBron's achieved a couple of things more than Luka. I'm just, I would

00:33:41.82
Russell Gibson
There's a hundred of them though.

00:33:45.20
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:33:45.77
Adz
I would argue LeBron's achieved a lot more than...

00:33:49.26
Russell Gibson
No, no i'm not ah no, I'm not arguing.

00:33:50.16
Adz
yeah, than Luka to scale the card.

00:33:51.32
Russell Gibson
I'm just saying in terms of scarcity. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:53.20
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.

00:33:55.58
Russell Gibson
Anyway, look, just fantastic for the whole week.

00:33:58.44
Adz
Can you imagine if there was a Jordan rookie patch?

00:34:05.11
Russell Gibson
So if we are talking about this, that this is my long-held view. I don't value the rookie card the way other people do. There's so many of them.

00:34:13.86
Adz
Hmm...

00:34:14.59
Russell Gibson
There's so many fakes. They're not, okay, some are autographed. Whereas for me, I see a heap of value in his exquisite patch autograph stuff. And I find that whilst I think that card is iconic, the rookie card, I just find the patch autograph stuff a lot more aesthetically pleasing.

00:34:32.48
Adz
Yep.

00:34:33.18
Russell Gibson
Yep. ah Final thoughts on this. We'll go for a couple.

00:34:37.33
Adz
No, it's nice. and so This is a beautiful card.

00:34:39.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:34:40.53
Adz
It's that LeBron RPA. I do think that is quite a coveted card um and and not the most available.

00:34:48.22
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:34:53.25
Adz
While at peak,

00:34:53.25
Russell Gibson
What's the peak you think that'll get to? Hmm.

00:35:01.16
Adz
there's a couple scenarios. I think it's worth it's a steal and I think it's a it has the potential to be at that grade. i don't I'm not sure given the... the Yeah, don't know.

00:35:16.90
Adz
I struggle because I think it's a $2 million dollars card, $2.5 million dollar card. the the Depends on what the pop count looks like.

00:35:27.44
Adz
Do know what mean?

00:35:28.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I actually think this type of card could have quite a bit of variation in it. Like it could sell for, the next sale could be 800.

00:35:36.59
Adz
be a roller coaster.

00:35:38.17
Russell Gibson
Yeah, the one after that could be 1.2.

00:35:38.21
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:41.28
Russell Gibson
And so i think I do have that little bit of a problem with this card. Also, I think too,

00:35:48.89
Russell Gibson
I don't actually see a heap of growth in that at 1.1. I see that more of, I think that's for me, that purchase is more about putting that into your collection as opposed to a quick flip.

00:35:53.17
Adz
Really?

00:35:59.85
Adz
i have a tendency to,

00:36:04.51
Adz
yeah, to to agree at that at that point. um

00:36:09.63
Adz
I don't know. I feel like it's an investment piece. Like, you're right. It's probably someone that's bought it specifically for their for their PC.

00:36:16.29
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:36:16.93
Adz
Yeah. But you you think about the context of this. is a This ticks so many boxes. It's rookie, like a rookie patch auto on card, high grade, right?

00:36:25.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah, sure. Yeah.

00:36:30.79
Adz
And we just talked about Kobe Bryant, the documentary that's coming out, spiking him.

00:36:36.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:36:38.61
Adz
And I'm not going to overhype this card. But I'm hopeful that the Lakers can actually go all the way this year. If the Lakers win this year, does LeBron go into that GOAT conversation just with a little bit more of ah an argument?

00:36:52.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah, right. Okay. so you think that's a little bit speculative on him adding another chip?

00:36:57.10
Adz
Yeah. I think someone's gone, Luka and LeBron are now paired. There's a chance he gets another chip and now there's a real debate that this guy's actually the greatest player of all time because nobody...

00:37:11.33
Adz
is getting close to that fifty k in points.

00:37:13.46
Russell Gibson
Can you imagine the ego if he does get that six championship?

00:37:13.64
Adz
No one's eclipsing him. Mm-hmm.

00:37:19.55
Russell Gibson
Can you imagine?

00:37:22.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:37:23.57
Russell Gibson
I'm not prepared for it actually.

00:37:23.96
Adz
um I'm trying to imagine. um I'd be very happy if he got it because he plays for my team.

00:37:31.39
Russell Gibson
Alrighty.

00:37:31.46
Adz
We need to talk about the LeBron songs that are all over Instagram.

00:37:35.04
Russell Gibson
No, we don't. we and we don't I can't see it in the run sheet, so therefore we can't talk about it. Sorry, mate.

00:37:40.98
Adz
It'll be a timeless moment. What do you reckon?

00:37:47.80
Adz
Top 10 LeBron songs.

00:37:48.15
Russell Gibson
ah

00:37:52.30
Russell Gibson
Oh, geez.

00:37:53.07
Adz
On that note.

00:37:53.28
Russell Gibson
All right, let let's go to a break. Thank you very much to Fast Break Trading Cards for your support and ongoing support. They've had a couple of really big announcements recently. They had their first birthday.

00:38:05.99
Russell Gibson
They put a party on for everybody. It was a fantastic day. They did giveaways, boxes for the kids. They had discounts on sealed. their had discounts on singles. It was just fantastic.

00:38:16.18
Adz
It was awesome.

00:38:16.21
Russell Gibson
The other thing too is that they are now an official partner of the CollectFest, which is just huge. So their name is going to be up in bright neon lights for everybody to know about the fantastic things that they do.

00:38:29.90
Adz
Mmm.

00:38:31.85
Russell Gibson
They sell tops, basketball, football, baseball, soccer, Formula One, tennis, UFC, WWE. Take down your cards. They will buy them off you. They can clean them for you. They can send them off to grading for you.

00:38:42.99
Russell Gibson
They will just talk to you about your cards. They're just generally good guys that like to talk about cards. Go down to 75 Chilup Street, Cheltenham, Friday twelve to six Saturday 9-5, Sunday 10-4.

00:38:56.05
Russell Gibson
Contact them on 03-9968-5550. Thank you very much to John and Alvaro at Team Fastbreak.

00:39:13.20
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, we're back. How are you doing?

00:39:15.82
Adz
Good.

00:39:16.94
Russell Gibson
Right.

00:39:17.22
Adz
Very good.

00:39:18.34
Russell Gibson
This next one, i would really like to talk about with you because it is a relatively new insert that's come into a product. And I'm going to say relatively new because it's not like we've never seen these types of cards before. So for example, what I'm trying to draw this to is it's to be very much like a Kaboom.

00:39:40.81
Russell Gibson
However...

00:39:41.18
Adz
Oh.

00:39:43.04
Russell Gibson
We do need to talk about it because some of the sales, the the setup, yeah.

00:39:46.10
Adz
ah liked i like the as ah I like the optics you've you've given to this already.

00:39:51.55
Russell Gibson
So if you go to eBay and sold listings, that's probably the easiest way to do it. Before I go any further, I need to do a better introduction of the card. We're talking about the 2024 Prism

00:40:02.15
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:04.30
Russell Gibson
and mba mango so

00:40:07.19
Adz
Agreed. You need to be less humble on this. We talked about this when Prism draft picks came out last year the year before. about the mango but

00:40:16.73
Russell Gibson
They put a manga card into their sets and I was talking about them saying, don't go too crazy. Often this stuff will go down a little bit. However, they seem to me very collectible.

00:40:27.90
Russell Gibson
They have now been released into a pro set.

00:40:31.26
Adz
yep these aren't these these aren't yeah animes of Ja Morant and Steph Curry in their college uniforms this is the pro set um where's the button

00:40:31.41
Russell Gibson
And I feel like...

00:40:44.23
Russell Gibson
So I feel like a little bit too is that, like, have you seen this online and social media and have you seen influencers talking about them and da-da-da-da-da? Like, I just haven't seen them at all.

00:40:57.10
Adz
No.

00:40:57.34
Russell Gibson
But going going through the sold listing, so the Luca sold for $2,600. This is all US dollars.

00:41:03.49
Adz
yeah

00:41:03.63
Russell Gibson
The Anthony Edwards sold for $2,000 then $2,100. The Wemby sold for $3,300. The Steph sold for $7,300. the wembby sold for three three staff sold for seven thousand three hundred

00:41:14.38
Adz
Yeah. What did you say use as your search term? Because I'm on 130 point.

00:41:16.92
Russell Gibson
I used 2024 Prism NBA Manga. Yep.

00:41:23.64
Adz
2024 Prism NBA Manga.

00:41:27.99
Russell Gibson
The Kevin Durant sold for one three, another sale of the Steph Curry for four two.

00:41:34.51
Russell Gibson
The Bronny James sold for $7.40. The Yarnas sold for $1.8. The Zachary Richesher sold for a K, but it sold for $999.99, but close enough.

00:41:47.84
Russell Gibson
The Dalton Connect sold for $1,300. So if you're going into Lakers PYT, that's actually three potential hits at a manga. You got LeBron.

00:41:58.07
Adz
Now what product what products are they in?

00:42:00.78
Russell Gibson
So this is the part that I'm a little bit unclear of, and I probably should have done a bit more homework on this. It's a Chinese version of Prism, basically.

00:42:12.29
Russell Gibson
But the checklist is is actually very unclear because when you when you go into the Beckett checklist, it it just has them all listed there in the checklist.

00:42:21.46
Adz
Hmm.

00:42:21.69
Russell Gibson
So

00:42:25.03
Russell Gibson
I actually must confess, I haven't watched cases and cases of case breaks this year in terms of Prism. I've watched a little bit of content, but I haven't watched you know more than five cases. Let me put it to you like that. So but they could come out of regular ones. And if people at home would like to set me straight on this and correct me, of course, I would love to hear your um your feedback.

00:42:47.14
Russell Gibson
Other cards in the checklist. I'm going to run through this really quickly because it's not like we're talking about 88 different types of parallels.

00:42:52.91
Adz
some

00:42:54.43
Russell Gibson
We've got Bazzullis for the Bulls, Collier from the Jazz, Bronny James, Steph, Giannis, Risa Cher, Edwards, KD, Wemby, Donovan Klingon for the Blazers, Solan for the Hornets, which is an interesting one for me, LeBron James, Topic for the Thunder, Dillingham for the Wolves, which I think is a really good one,

00:43:13.97
Russell Gibson
Stefan Kassel for the Spurs. I think that's going to be really collectible too. Jokic for the Nuggies, Dalton Connect, SGA, Donchich, and then Alexander Saar for the Wizards, which is a really fun one.

00:43:26.02
Adz
i lot I love the Anthony Edwards one.

00:43:29.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah, the the graphics is really good, isn't it?

00:43:31.78
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:32.46
Russell Gibson
So we put up posts onto Instagram for this. We've had you know a few people comment on this, but Liftoff Cards said SGA and Ant-Man.

00:43:43.25
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:46.96
Russell Gibson
D Rose Collective. That one took me a minute to work out. was like, is this Dr. O's Collective? No, it's D Rose. It's in Derek Rose.

00:43:55.57
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:58.13
Russell Gibson
Done KD absolutely dirty with that forehead. don't think it's that bad. He kind of has a

00:44:06.73
Adz
I thought they i thought they did KD wrong by putting him in a Phoenix jersey.

00:44:13.95
Russell Gibson
He kind of has a big head. I mean, that's not like...

00:44:18.11
Adz
he's out of It looks out of proportion.

00:44:18.35
Russell Gibson
Did...

00:44:22.81
Russell Gibson
like Okay. All right. i'll I'll concede that one.

00:44:23.95
Adz
i find i find it I find it funny.

00:44:26.50
Russell Gibson
Did you want to read some of the Facebook ones off, mate?

00:44:29.70
Adz
Yes, yes.

00:44:30.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:44:31.01
Adz
Actually, I've only got the why i only got the Instagram up.

00:44:34.50
Russell Gibson
That's good. I'll read off the first couple and then you catch up. How does that sound?

00:44:37.55
Adz
Sure.

00:44:38.14
Russell Gibson
Adam Muirhead, Joker, 100%. Ados Uchos, how are you, buddy?

00:44:40.56
Adz
Yep.

00:44:42.24
Russell Gibson
Jokic. So it seems to me like the Joker one is pretty popular so far. Ryan Miller, I'd want the Luka, but Giannis looks best.

00:44:51.28
Adz
Want the Luka Villianas looks best.

00:44:51.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that is a good picture, isn't it?

00:44:53.60
Adz
um'm I'm still on Ant, but you'll have to keep going.

00:44:53.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:44:56.29
Adz
How many more have you got?

00:44:57.63
Russell Gibson
Daniel Waldschmidt. Still got a few more. Giannis and Ant.

00:44:59.59
Adz
Good.

00:45:01.08
Russell Gibson
Ryan Jewell. Giannis, Ant, LeBron, Steph. Levi Coon. Steph, but like the look of Collier also. Yeah. Marie Moore. Joker by far. I want it. He doesn't have many cards with good expression on his face.

00:45:13.71
Russell Gibson
Yeah, actually, it's kind of a cheeky little, it's a cheeky little grin, isn't it?

00:45:15.20
Adz
That's it, yeah.

00:45:17.76
Russell Gibson
And he doesn't smile. It takes a lot for that guy to smile, doesn't it? Like a ah horse to win or some type of party.

00:45:26.71
Adz
and Anthony Milne, if they're 7k each, I'll take any of them.

00:45:31.62
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:45:35.99
Adz
Yeah, and then is it Paul Stoll at the end?

00:45:39.17
Russell Gibson
That's it. Here's the last one. ye

00:45:40.43
Adz
Ant and Steph.

00:45:41.37
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:45:42.41
Adz
Yeah, I agree with that. a lot might Yeah, definitely. My favourite's Ant. Luke Griffey was wearing a Lakers jersey.

00:45:49.55
Russell Gibson
So we should really quickly talk about this, but not go too deep into it. If you look at the back of the card, artwork is by BBK. Now, when I searched that young I'm going to say man, I'm assuming it's a man.

00:46:05.81
Russell Gibson
They have a heap of art on their Instagram, like heaps, absolutely heaps.

00:46:10.10
Adz
Really?

00:46:10.94
Russell Gibson
And they've done a whole bunch of stuff. They've done soccer cards, they've done NFL.

00:46:13.87
Adz
yeah

00:46:16.46
Russell Gibson
So clearly they've got, you know, a really good working relationship with Panini and rightfully so, by the way, like this stuff is absolutely lit. I'd almost like to see a Tyson Beck crossover here to be perfectly honest.

00:46:26.78
Adz
I was gonna say BBK Tyson bit crossover.

00:46:28.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:46:30.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So if you then click on the link tree that's there, they've actually put up a whole bunch of wallpapers, which is for free. You can just click on them and and just download them.

00:46:40.34
Adz
Okay.

00:46:41.90
Russell Gibson
So only only really quickly looked at this last night. But yeah, there's a whole, look at this, there's heaps of them out and they're really cool. So if you're into PSG, if you're into Bayon, there's one there for you.

00:46:57.72
Russell Gibson
I'm actually really into soccer at the moment. So i actually might grab a couple of these just to chuck on my computer to mix it up.

00:47:00.16
Adz
Okay.

00:47:05.92
Russell Gibson
Yep. Super cool. Anyway, look, I hope there's more collaborations like this. I think this is really innovative by Panini and I think collectors have clearly spoken in the, in the very much the positive on these.

00:47:16.29
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:19.06
Russell Gibson
So, yep.

00:47:19.53
Adz
Very much so. It's, um,

00:47:24.77
Adz
Yeah, it's going to be a thing. It looks like it's going to be a thing. i like it. um Look forward to potentially something with, ah yeah, as you said, on the Tyson Beck fame.

00:47:35.48
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, let us go to our third and final break. We're going to shout out to the hobbyhangout.com.au. Go to the hobbyhangout.com.au and once you are there, you'll be able to purchase your tickets for the Hobby Hangout XL.

00:47:51.60
Russell Gibson
Trading Card Show Australia Royal Exhibition Building. Sunday the 1st of June.

00:47:59.50
Russell Gibson
think they're doing some Sydney shows too, aren't they? Or have they not been announced yet?

00:48:03.02
Adz
I don't think they've been announced. I think the Hobby Hangout XL is the only one on the docket at the moment.

00:48:07.37
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So last week we discussed Golden coming down, which is a huge announcement. I may or may not have been commenting on their post asking if Ken Golden is going to be coming.

00:48:16.09
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:19.37
Russell Gibson
I haven't had a response back. I think my plan is this week to send them an email to try and find out if we can get a little bit of an exclusive But interestingly, I had Levi Coom message me this week, and apparently Golden is coming to Adelaide this week for another trade show.

00:48:35.39
Russell Gibson
So I can't imagine Ken Golden is flying back and forward to Australia and home that regularly.

00:48:36.58
Adz
Hmm.

00:48:40.53
Adz
Never know. Why not?

00:48:42.83
Russell Gibson
I wonder if his delegates, what I'm trying to get to is like one of his delegates.

00:48:44.44
Adz
Probably.

00:48:45.63
Russell Gibson
Anyway, it's going to be cool.

00:48:45.64
Adz
Which one of his, which one of his lackeys is going to be there? Or is he sending his daughter?

00:48:50.08
Russell Gibson
I don't know. Australian international guests, exclusive speakers sharing insider knowledge and tips, sports cards, massive selection of Pokemon Yu-Gi-Oh and more trading zones, trading card tournaments, giveaways, interactive brand activations, casual player areas.

00:49:07.05
Russell Gibson
I'm super stoked for this. I think that this is what we needed for a really long time. And I really think these interactive areas with people to be able to trade, play and have casual play is honestly essential.

00:49:21.57
Adz
thought going to talk about activations then.

00:49:25.44
Adz
Do we have more on what the activations look like?

00:49:26.99
Russell Gibson
I might include that in the email too. how about that? And then we'll hopefully ticket.

00:49:29.36
Adz
Yeah. Can you explain these activations? Can someone from the Hobby Hangout come on the show and explain these activations to us?

00:49:35.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right.

00:49:37.95
Adz
We demand answers.

00:49:45.57
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. Ah, enough of the comedy. Alrighty. We're back. Adam, how you doing?

00:49:51.37
Adz
um good, i'm good. Ready for the final stretch?

00:49:54.24
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I'm ready. All right, we don't have actually much left in the run sheet. So let's talk about Time Lord really quickly.

00:49:59.37
Adz
Quick.

00:50:03.29
Russell Gibson
This is a tough one for me because we're talking about people with a lot of talent who just have never worked out in the NBA. And that's the league for it. You can have all the talent in the world and just...

00:50:10.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:14.90
Russell Gibson
not work out. Look, this guy is <unk> super talented. And when he's on the floor, he's a very much an impactful basketball player. And I think it says a lot that they basically traded Porzingis.

00:50:26.13
Russell Gibson
Sorry, let me rephrase that. The Celtics traded away Time Lord and basically got Porzingis back for him. um I'm cheating when I'm saying that, but I actually, that's in my sort of deep down. That's what I really think the roster moves are all around on that one.

00:50:40.64
Adz
fair

00:50:41.01
Russell Gibson
hit He's currently on the Blazers, but he's if you look at his game log this year, he's absolutely barely played. So let's see if he's on card ladder because I call him Time Lord, but his real name is actually Robert Williams.

00:50:52.29
Adz
Robert Williams.

00:50:53.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:50:56.16
Adz
he's He's on par with like Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. He's played 61 games total in the past, what, three years?

00:51:05.21
Russell Gibson
It's, yeah, it's nuts. Alrighty, so he's currently trading at $7.36.

00:51:06.77
Adz
It's Ben Simmons level.

00:51:08.82
Russell Gibson
His all-time high was $277. his oldtime hire was two hundred and seventy seven dollars Look, he's an absolute cautionary tale. But if you said to me, i got caught up in this guy's talent, I thought he was going to be an all-star, I wouldn't even snicker at you. i wouldn't even criticize you. In fact, I would say, i agree with you.

00:51:29.65
Russell Gibson
I think it's just very unfortunate if you did buy that at the absolute peak.

00:51:34.03
Adz
yeah

00:51:34.41
Russell Gibson
um And it's now trading at $7. Look, i I do love a nice little gamble. I do love cheap cards to pick up. But even for me, this is like a stay away. I'm going to put this into the camera-ish.

00:51:46.20
Adz
What about the Zion bucket?

00:51:46.29
Russell Gibson
It's just too much.

00:51:48.93
Adz
Guy's a beast if he's healthy, but... True.

00:51:51.45
Russell Gibson
I think Zion's different again, man. I think Zion's held to a different standard.

00:51:56.17
Adz
True, and then Timelord didn't have to take a Zempic to play ball.

00:51:56.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:52:00.58
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:52:04.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I mean.

00:52:05.36
Adz
I don't know. Their men's hamstrings are paper. like paper Really?

00:52:08.78
Russell Gibson
Actually, I got a bit of a funny joke on this. So, Shen Goon isn't on Card Letter, but Robert Williams is. I think we should start a petition. Yeah, I think we should start a petition. Get people to sign it, like an online petition, and then submit it to Card Letter and be like, look, your listeners, you know, your fans of your product have spoken.

00:52:23.55
Adz
the

00:52:31.61
Russell Gibson
You need to get this dude on here.

00:52:34.14
Adz
You know what's funny? I tipped my hat to Shengun the other night and said he should be on the NBA, all-NBA third team with the season he's had.

00:52:45.41
Adz
So that's probably... i think the Rockets needed some love and Shengun's the only one I wanted to give some love to.

00:52:50.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:52:51.88
Adz
But yeah, he should be on card letter.

00:52:54.01
Russell Gibson
So this is, it's a tricky one for me to put you on the spot and ask you, but maybe is what we should do for preparation for our next show.

00:53:01.55
Adz
Yeah.

00:53:01.61
Russell Gibson
we say our all NBA players, because I think the one for me that I'm really stuck on at the moment is, is the Pistons. I think someone from that team has to be all NBA. Yeah.

00:53:13.16
Adz
Kate Cunningham.

00:53:15.96
Russell Gibson
Then think at least two from the Cavs will have to be All-NBA. They're 60 and 15.

00:53:21.81
Adz
Mitchell and Mobley.

00:53:23.99
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:24.13
Adz
and we wait This is like a preview. for like

00:53:26.87
Russell Gibson
Celtics probably deserve one, if not two, All-NBA.

00:53:31.29
Adz
Tatum's getting first team for sure.

00:53:33.35
Russell Gibson
Then you go the Thunder.

00:53:35.65
Adz
SGA.

00:53:36.80
Russell Gibson
maybe they Maybe they should have two.

00:53:36.99
Adz
That's it. but Look, Robert, ah look.

00:53:39.89
Russell Gibson
Then the Rockets. Then the Nuggets. Then...

00:53:44.75
Adz
Well, the Nuggets get there the the guy that is the best player in the world, right?

00:53:50.34
Russell Gibson
Like, this is such a good problem to have, but to narrow it down to 15 plays this year, I think it's going to be really tough.

00:53:55.54
Adz
It's true. agree.

00:53:56.39
Russell Gibson
And I would love to have a vote.

00:53:56.54
Adz
I think it'll be fun. Yeah. Yeah. yeah

00:53:58.25
Russell Gibson
I would love to have a vote, but I'm telling you this. I'm glad this year I don't have a vote. It is so murky for me this year.

00:54:04.28
Adz
ye

00:54:05.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:54:07.03
Adz
Okay. All right. Well, maybe maybe that's that's what we'll look at next week.

00:54:07.91
Russell Gibson
Zach.

00:54:11.81
Russell Gibson
Traditionally, Zach Lowe has done this like mega podcast and he explains... He makes a huge list. He's like, okay, I'm going start off with 60 plays. And then he whittles it down. and Then he explains why for each one.

00:54:22.02
Russell Gibson
And then he goes through like the detailed analysis and the on the back end. It is absolutely unbelievable. Oh, actually, hey, speaking... Sorry, segue number 15 of today's show.

00:54:29.41
Adz
o

00:54:31.97
Russell Gibson
Speaking of Zach Lowe, he has returned to the ringer. So if you were...

00:54:34.93
Adz
I saw that. Yeah.

00:54:36.32
Russell Gibson
a zach low fan and you're a little bit sad that he got fired from espn do not despair go and refresh your ringer podcast look i've completely dropped off the ringer i'm not gonna lie to you i think they kind their content is fantastic but also too if you want nerdy content there's probably they're more entertainment these days and now that zach's back he ticks so many boxes for me in terms of nerd and entertainment so i'm i'm very very excited about this actually i'm very excited yep

00:54:45.22
Adz
yeah.

00:55:00.45
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:07.11
Adz
Very.

00:55:08.90
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. So why don't we do a continuation on from the segment we did a couple of weeks or last episode.

00:55:15.75
Adz
Last episode when we were going through card ladder.

00:55:18.12
Russell Gibson
Go to Card Ladder, go to Players, filter it by total market cap.

00:55:19.92
Adz
All right, we're on. We're on here. Let's...

00:55:24.47
Russell Gibson
And if my memory serves me well, we are up to Wilt Chamberlain.

00:55:24.53
Adz
I'll get the full screen up.

00:55:29.71
Adz
Probably. Yeah, because we did Kareem.

00:55:30.62
Russell Gibson
Click on Wilt Chamberlain, click on Cards.

00:55:33.61
Adz
We did Kareem in the 200th. correct. Hang

00:55:35.98
Russell Gibson
Apply the PSA 10 gem filter. And that will give you the 1974 Topps Wilt Chamberlain card number 250. two fifty And I'm not going to be able to say this word, but I will try.

00:55:50.18
Russell Gibson
the San Diego Conquistadors. I think I got it. I nailed that.

00:55:57.21
Adz
The what? Which filter am I putting on?

00:56:00.21
Russell Gibson
PSA 10.

00:56:01.90
Adz
PSA 10.

00:56:02.00
Russell Gibson
Remember maybe you wanted PSA 10?

00:56:02.90
Adz
Yep. Market cap. Yep.

00:56:05.19
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:56:07.59
Adz
And what card am I looking for?

00:56:09.02
Russell Gibson
It should be number one, should be the 1974 Wilt Chamberlain Conquistadors.

00:56:13.72
Adz
Oh, never mind. I went to, I had ah a bit of a moment.

00:56:18.29
Russell Gibson
Old man moment?

00:56:19.31
Adz
Yeah, I did. I did click Kareem.

00:56:23.57
Adz
All right, we've already done this one.

00:56:27.73
Adz
Everybody watching on YouTube has seen me do that. It was quite amusing.

00:56:30.55
Russell Gibson
Mate, we are old, okay?

00:56:33.26
Adz
it won't It won't be the last time either, I can i can tell you that.

00:56:34.78
Russell Gibson
We are old, I forgive you. All righty.

00:56:40.38
Adz
San Diego, yeah, Conquisitors.

00:56:40.47
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:56:43.26
Adz
Wow.

00:56:43.91
Russell Gibson
So I think Wilt Chamberlain is significant because we recently had that PSA 10 sell of his card, which sold for, again, if my memory serves well, a million dollars. I think that Wilt is probably an undervalued asset in general.

00:57:00.86
Russell Gibson
the The other thing about Wilt Chamberlain too is that you try and buy a Wilt Chamberlain autograph, I would almost describe it as impossible.

00:57:12.12
Russell Gibson
So i think a lot of this stuff that's floating around at the moment, like, yeah, the prices are crazy, like bananas crazy. And I get that, but I actually wonder if it's still undervalued. So the PSA 10 sale isn't listed in card letter for a 61 Fleer rookie, which is an interesting little wrinkle.

00:57:33.92
Russell Gibson
think if I remember, it was it was a private sale.

00:57:34.79
Adz
No, but it hasn't been sold, has it? It's just great.

00:57:37.58
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so it's been sold since, and they sold it again.

00:57:39.45
Adz
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:57:40.89
Russell Gibson
after So they bought it, put it into PSA 10, because it was SGC, then they changed it over, and then it was sold in a private sale.

00:57:44.34
Adz
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:57:49.14
Russell Gibson
so Look, I think this is an interesting card. Do I think this is a ah really good card to be picking up at the $15,000 price point? I actually don't have a problem with it.

00:58:02.65
Russell Gibson
So if you look at the next two cards down the list, so the 72 Topps is selling for $24,000. The 61 Fleer selling for $14,000.

00:58:11.60
Adz
Yeah.

00:58:14.51
Russell Gibson
Like once you get into that sort of a card that's like 70 years old, that really, and it's still in PSA 10 condition.

00:58:14.72
Adz
that That's insane.

00:58:24.15
Russell Gibson
Of those three, I probably liked that one the best actually.

00:58:29.11
Adz
Which one? The 71 Fleer.

00:58:30.75
Russell Gibson
The Fleer.

00:58:32.20
Adz
ah sixty one f fla

00:58:35.24
Russell Gibson
Just for the age point, like there's something about that. Like once it gets to that age and it's still in PSA 10, just makes me, yeah.

00:58:40.01
Adz
That is insane.

00:58:42.93
Russell Gibson
So that's pi pop two on that one too. So we talk about cards just exploding and popping. So the normal thing we do is we talk about Jordan inserts. Okay, here's another one that's just doubled in value in the last couple of months.

00:58:55.64
Russell Gibson
I feel like that's the type of thing you could look at too. it's like, okay, you pick it up for 14. The next sale is 45.

00:59:00.62
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:02.10
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:59:03.98
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:04.67
Russell Gibson
Honestly.

00:59:06.62
Adz
Yeah, it's, it's, that's,

00:59:06.71
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:59:11.19
Russell Gibson
I reckon there has to be some collectors out there that are just snapping all these up while us dummies are talking about ultramod and prism hobby.

00:59:20.21
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:20.23
Russell Gibson
I'm referring to myself, by the way.

00:59:22.28
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:22.88
Russell Gibson
Definitely not the listeners.

00:59:25.53
Adz
Instead of buying a few of those manga cards, then maybe just buying sneaky buying a will.

00:59:29.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah, they're just going out and buying a built Chamberlain from 1970. Yeah.

00:59:32.64
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:35.08
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, SGA. Let's talk about SGA. I think... Did we talk about him last episode? Alright,

00:59:40.51
Adz
Did we go into it? We were talking about the market cap. Yeah, we did.

00:59:44.47
Russell Gibson
well, why don't we skip over that then and we'll do one more and then we'll tidy up today's show. Next one's Giannis.

00:59:49.30
Adz
Because, we yeah, we we did we did talk – yeah, SGA is probably – it's a spike in the cap.

00:59:49.72
Russell Gibson
Fantastic. Fantastic.

00:59:56.28
Adz
I think it's a bit – yeah, that was the main thing.

00:59:58.79
Russell Gibson
Oh, great. all right. This makes me very happy. Alrighty. So filtering by cards, adding on the PSA 10 filter, the top card is 2013 National Treasures, rookie patch autograph number to 99.

01:00:13.82
Russell Gibson
So for people at home that are thinking, why is it the number to 99 and not 10 or the 20?

01:00:20.16
Adz
Yeah.

01:00:20.88
Russell Gibson
It's one of those stupid rules that's unwritten in basketball cards. The 99 is actually more valuable than the lower numbered stuff.

01:00:27.94
Adz
Everything else.

01:00:29.36
Russell Gibson
Don't ask why, just roll with the punches.

01:00:31.01
Adz
It's the RPA.

01:00:32.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:00:35.63
Russell Gibson
If you look at the all-time graph on this, it's got three sales that are documented. There's one for $900, there's one for $30,000, and then it goes all the way up to $553,000.

01:00:49.25
Russell Gibson
Look, I actually, i don't have a massive problem with this, but i what I will say is, and which which is what i' was saying to you before about the LeBron, there's 99 of these.

01:00:49.46
Adz
What the...

01:01:01.37
Russell Gibson
i I really think that you probably could have held out at some point.

01:01:06.88
Adz
Pop report wise, there are four of these.

01:01:08.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:01:11.26
Russell Gibson
True.

01:01:14.84
Adz
That's... That brings the number down quite significantly, right?

01:01:19.03
Russell Gibson
I think the population on that could go up. I don't think that is going to be the final destination on that card.

01:01:22.79
Adz
Graded. Total population is 121. That's interesting.

01:01:27.72
Russell Gibson
Well, i'm not I'm not great at maths.

01:01:27.99
Adz
um Yeah, no, no, no. We know we've crossed people. Yeah, yeah. We've crossed some over, of course.

01:01:33.50
Russell Gibson
I'm not great at maths, but um yeah.

01:01:35.48
Adz
I don't think these cross over very well.

01:01:38.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:01:39.50
Adz
Although there haven't been that many. 16.5%.

01:01:42.48
Russell Gibson
What's the gem rate? 25%

01:01:44.09
Adz
twenty sixteen point five percent

01:01:47.31
Russell Gibson
on pc Yeah.

01:01:49.80
Adz
So 25% on PSA. I think there's, yeah, there's no 10s in BGS. There's no black label.

01:01:59.54
Russell Gibson
Mm.

01:02:01.35
Adz
So maybe, yeah, the pop count of 10 on the PSA,

01:02:07.50
Adz
every other price point, the 9.5s are going for 50K each is the is the sorry is the card ladder value.

01:02:07.68
Russell Gibson
look

01:02:18.32
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think sometimes that card letter of value is flawed and particularly when there's not a lot of sales data. So I wouldn't read a lot into that.

01:02:26.40
Adz
and the Sorry, I'll rephrase. The number 299 BGS 9.5 Auto 10 BGS last sold for $50,020 the of March this year. So that sold recently. It peaked at $350,000.

01:02:38.35
Russell Gibson
What year was that at?

01:02:39.60
Adz
on the eighth of march this year

01:02:41.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah, right.

01:02:42.62
Adz
so that sold recently it peaked at three hundred and fifty k

01:02:42.90
Russell Gibson
All right. So that's,

01:02:46.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:48.98
Adz
Back in 2021, because everyone lost their mind.

01:02:52.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:52.52
Adz
And then it stabled out. There was a sale 57, 60. for so fifty seven sixty There was a sixty nine ks sale But then, yeah last two sales,

01:03:04.26
Adz
december twenty eighth twenty twenty four and then march eighth but fifty k

01:03:10.01
Russell Gibson
So for me, this is like two easy rules to apply. Buy the card, not the grade. It's like, to me, if you're getting a card for 10 times less just because it's in a BGS 9.5 slab instead of PSA, like that to me does not make sense.

01:03:24.38
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

01:03:24.63
Russell Gibson
The other rule that you would then apply here is the PSA. Like people always complain about PSA, how they're this or that, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if you're getting 10 times more for your money just because it's in a PSA slab,

01:03:34.70
Adz
yeah

01:03:37.46
Russell Gibson
What more conversation needs to be had about why you should grade your cards with PSA? Like, you know mean? I'm not a PSA simp, but I'm just saying, like, just do the numbers.

01:03:47.93
Adz
Hell yeah. But based on the gem rate, what if you crack that 9.5 and you end up with a PSA 9?

01:03:56.42
Russell Gibson
I think that's the obvious play.

01:03:56.66
Adz
Last one.

01:03:57.82
Russell Gibson
I don't have the testicular fortitude to do that, but, like, that to me, that is, that's just obvious, isn't it?

01:04:04.29
Adz
So, and and this is a this purely, purely hypothetical.

01:04:08.92
Russell Gibson
Absolutely.

01:04:09.89
Adz
Oh,

01:04:10.13
Russell Gibson
This is how we like to go.

01:04:12.13
Adz
anyone want to play, it's it's a different well, the photo on Card Ladder is different.

01:04:14.94
Russell Gibson
Get your tinfoil hat out. Is that what you're saying?

01:04:16.82
Adz
It is, it is. All right, are you ready ready for this?

01:04:17.77
Russell Gibson
All right. Yep.

01:04:22.72
Adz
There was an auction on March 30th where this sold in a PSA 9 for $43,920. Do you reckon someone's crossed like tried to move it because it crossed badly a couple of weeks later?

01:04:45.76
Russell Gibson
I mean, who knows?

01:04:46.85
Adz
9.5.

01:04:47.12
Russell Gibson
ah Yeah.

01:04:47.54
Adz
They've taken the risk. They've bought a card for 50k. They've cracked it. They've express subbed

01:04:54.99
Adz
Sent it straight to Golden. It came back a 9 instead of a 10. Sold for 43. I don't know. I'm just guessing it's the same card. So it sold for for seven k less.

01:05:05.89
Russell Gibson
That would actually, particularly numbered cars, it would be nice to know

01:05:09.57
Adz
21 day turnaround. And plus the like to grade an auction.

01:05:11.80
Russell Gibson
where it's being graded.

01:05:12.49
Adz
Probably not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:13.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:05:14.88
Adz
But it'd be interesting to see. Yeah, that that one.

01:05:21.54
Adz
Yeah, it's an interesting one.

01:05:25.63
Russell Gibson
Thank you, Adam, for a fantastic show. Thank you, everybody, for for listening, for tuning in, whatever podcast platform that you're on.

01:05:28.30
Adz
That was good.

01:05:32.79
Russell Gibson
Thank you to all of our YouTube subscribers. So we have had an exponential growth in the last couple of weeks. We are now nearly up to 1,000 subscribers.

01:05:42.47
Adz
Yep, yep.

01:05:43.42
Russell Gibson
I remember us pushing to get 150.

01:05:45.76
Adz
plugging away. Yeah.

01:05:47.92
Russell Gibson
That took us months. So to go from 200 to nearly 1,000 in a couple of weeks is is wild.

01:05:49.55
Adz
Yeah.

01:05:53.54
Russell Gibson
So you're up to 952.

01:05:56.40
Adz
yeah

01:05:57.05
Russell Gibson
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01:06:16.86
Adz
Yeah, get familiar with it.

01:06:17.08
Russell Gibson
That's the best way yeah to say thanks to us.

01:06:18.73
Adz
Yeah. Get in there, leave a comment. We respond to everything. We either react or respond. um

01:06:25.28
Russell Gibson
we We do a pretty good job of that, actually.

01:06:25.50
Adz
We're in there, we check it.

01:06:27.47
Russell Gibson
We might miss the odd one, but yeah.

01:06:27.82
Adz
we But we do, we we try to respond to everything that read the that warrants a response.

01:06:29.89
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:06:34.16
Adz
um statements statements that kind of allude to please don't respond. um We don't respond to. But yes, yeah we appreciate all the support, even on the podcast platforms.

01:06:42.01
Russell Gibson
Wow.

01:06:45.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:06:46.83
Adz
Hell, if you're on Spotify and want to give us five stars, just so... the the algorithm picks up who we are um on podcasts.

01:06:54.12
Russell Gibson
Correct. Yep.

01:06:55.42
Adz
So yeah, appreciate all the support.

01:06:55.82
Russell Gibson
Correct. Yep.

01:06:58.11
Adz
Thank you so much for for listening. We appreciate everything.

01:07:00.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:07:01.97
Adz
200 episodes strong and and still loving it.

01:07:03.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yep.

01:07:05.10
Adz
Thank you, Russell, for another great week. And we'll see everybody in the next one.

01:07:06.85
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Cheers, mate.

01:07:15.29
Adz
Done.