You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
Episode 223: $10B Lakers & Hobby Drama
This week’s episode dives into the wildest news from both the NBA and the Hobby:
🏀 Topps Now Cooper Flagg hype
🔥 Norman Powell to the Heat
🤕 Isiah Jackson, Wiseman, and Deandre Ayton discussions
💰 Lakers reportedly sold for $10 Billion
🔍 PSA graded fake card fiasco – eBay certs & decertified slabs
🎰 Malik Beasley gambling debts, Rozier cleared
💼 Big contracts:
• Chet – 5 years $250M
• Jalen Williams – 5 years $287M
• SGA – 4 years $285M
• Booker – 2 years $145M
💎 Cade Flawless RPA, SGA Nebula watch
📦 Kyrie, Jokic, Banchero extensions
📉 Lonzo to Cavs, DLo, Cole Anthony to Bucks
💥 Pokémon stabbing incident
🧼 Last card of the show: Tim Duncan
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Adz
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Adz
Oh, wait.
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Adz
It's doing something. Configuring. There we go. Oh, we are live. Look at that.
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Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 223 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We are your hosts, Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.
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Adz
Reunited after after I was taken ill and missed all of CollectFest last week. Yay.
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Russell Gibson
What up? How are you feeling?
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Adz
I've recovered. It took me about half a week. I was i was pretty crook. Started to feel human again on Wednesday. yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think digitally I've caught whatever you had.
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Adz
yeah
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Adz
Yeah, I sent like, it was a compressed zip file that I sent through.
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Russell Gibson
That's right.
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Adz
um So if you've opened that, um yeah, sorry if you're at the beginning of that bug.
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Russell Gibson
Fuck. Um,
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Adz
The next week's gonna be painful.
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Russell Gibson
Honestly, after CollectFest, was like, there's no way I'm walking away from however many thousand people as compressed into that sighting cat and not getting sick. And I'm obviously, I've picked up something else along the way, but yeah.
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Adz
Yep.
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Adz
I was going to go and be the super spreader at CollectFest, but... um I wasn't able to get out of bed.
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Russell Gibson
Look, I'm actually, I'm not saying I'm glad you didn't come, but I'm glad you weren't the super spreader because that would have been not fantastic for our brand, you know?
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Adz
yeah that's fair. That's fair.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
No.
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Russell Gibson
Anyway, welcome back. Last week I did pod by myself. and It just feels like a long time since we've sat down and done a show together, even though it's only been two weeks.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
I'm very glad you're back, mate. So welcome.
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Adz
um It's good to be back. Good to be good. Yeah. There's plenty to talk about. I think...
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Russell Gibson
Heaps to talk about. This week is just going to be super chill. It's just going to be basically trades, free agent signings. We're going to do a little bit of summer league. um We're going to do some NBA player related news.
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Russell Gibson
So Malik Beasley has been identified as someone who is potentially manipulating lines.
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Adz
ah
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Russell Gibson
There's a whole lot of content online about that, which is pretty funny to watch. um Terry Rozier, we've got some news about him. Yeah. So i think let's just get to it. We've got a lot to get through.
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Russell Gibson
There's no way we're going to get through the whole sheet today, but that's fine.
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Adz
lots of lots of wheeling and dealing um ah Lots of wheeling and dealing amongst the league and I think we've got some question marks over some of it.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. It's a fun time of the year though. Honestly, I love this.
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Adz
It is, it is.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
And then we've got like, we've got the draft. So post draft, got summer league. we've
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
It's all happening.
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Russell Gibson
The NBA have got it worked out now. like It just goes playoffs, finals, free agent signings and trades, NBA draft, and then Summer League. So we've got the Spurs and the Mavericks from today.
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Adz
It's a formula.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Okay.
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Russell Gibson
cooper Cooper flag versus Dylan Harper. That's the other way to headline that.
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Adz
h
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Russell Gibson
Cooper.
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Adz
Well, like they did. He played Bronny James the other day.
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Russell Gibson
I did a mind that footage I saw of Bronny James trying to D him up. It was good competition.
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Adz
Yep. Look, it's a bit of fun. It's a bit of fun, really.
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Russell Gibson
Cooper with 31 points and four rebounds.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
That kid, he shouldn't be in summer league.
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Adz
It's fair. what, 31 points out of a total of Like...
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Russell Gibson
I think for me, Summer League is for people that are trying to win a roster spot or maybe someone that's coming into the league a little bit undercooked and they need NBA repetitions.
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Russell Gibson
It's pretty obvious to me that this guy's like maybe an all-star in his first year.
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Adz
So
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Adz
so not someone that's just won ah an NBA championship, maybe?
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Russell Gibson
I mean, so you're referring to the Thunder and some of their young kids. Look, if they're outside of the rotation – trying to break into, I'm not, I'm totally fine with that.
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Adz
Fair, fair. Fair, fair, fair.
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Russell Gibson
I mean, Jalen Williams and Chet should be resting for the next two months.
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Adz
Yeah, for sure.
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Russell Gibson
You know, i don't even expect SGA to turn up to training camp in shape.
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Adz
Mm-hmm.
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Russell Gibson
You know, like I think, I think that's totally fine. All right. So card related news, we're going to talk about
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Russell Gibson
The Cooper flag tops now card that came out. This is old and this is done, but I think we should talk about it. And this is again, something that hopefully we're going to be seeing a lot more from tops. I really like these.
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Russell Gibson
I don't know why Panini didn't do this. Like it's such an obvious play here. Basically how it works. You go into a lottery
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Adz
Yep.
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Russell Gibson
You buy the cards. My understanding was I think they've changed it a little bit before they used to do it on demand. So no matter how many people went in in the allotted time, everybody could get allocation.
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Adz
Mm-hmm.
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Russell Gibson
And then they printed the number of cards to that and then they ran the parallels out. But now it seems to me like the print run is set 123,650. Very strange but like sure there's some mass behind very strange number but like
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Adz
Well, I think there's a, relate so there's there's a pre-sale or or ah they open the window and however many they sell up until point X, that's the print run.
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Russell Gibson
um sure that so mass behind it
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.
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Adz
At that point, they decide how many parallels will be printed and announce all the parallels.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Because if they say they only sold 50,000 in that run, i think the parallels would be less.
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Adz
Then that just base, work because I've got the the image up now and it's got the print run closed.
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Adz
Yeah, one, two, three, six, five, oh.
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Adz
but that was available for a very limited time in that window.
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Russell Gibson
The time is definitely limited, but I think, like, for this one in particular, it actually sold out before the time ended, whereas other ones, what they did was they actually...
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Adz
um
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Russell Gibson
It was just, say, for, like, two days, and then it didn't...
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Adz
Really?
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Russell Gibson
Like, they could have sold, like, hypothetically a million of them.
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Adz
Maybe it's a, maybe it's a, that's the cap kind of thing or there is a,
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Look, i I'm... I've got to be honest with you. don't mind. it's capped at $123,000. Like, to me, that's still... They're making a heap of money off it. Otherwise, like... I mean, they're like worthless anyway, but at the same time, ah suppose if you're going to go into a $5 or $10 raffle, it's not the worst way to go into one, is it? Like through sports cards.
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Adz
I'm just looking, I'm just doing the math on the print ah print run, right? You got a number to 25 on card auto, number to 10 on card auto.
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Adz
um
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Adz
the number two of 10 is the inscribed one with my first auto. So what's that? we've got 25, 35, 40, 41. 41 cards out 123,000. Then you've another 99 plus 75. Wait, get calculator here. is getting...
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Adz
What it is, we've got 25 plus 10 plus 5 plus the 1. That's the 41. Then you've 99 plus 75, is the blue foil, plus the number 50, which is the gold
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Russell Gibson
we need John O Michaels to do the maths for us in real time
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Adz
Then you've got the number 25. twenty five plus ten plus plus five plus thewada it's a forty one then you've got plus ninety nine plus seventy five which is the blue foil plus the number to fifty which is the gold foil then you've got the number to twenty five which orange, number 10, which is the black, five, and then one foil refractor. So 305 different parallels. So there's 123,345 cards that are just
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Russell Gibson
I mean, look, when you say it like that, the odds aren't fantastic, are they? But at the same time, for $10, I've got no problem with this at all. I think it's fine.
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Adz
plain. And that are just crazy.
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Russell Gibson
I think the fact of...
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Adz
Awesome. three hundred and forty five cards that are just plain and then three hundred and six that are just crazy
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
ah
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Russell Gibson
Anyway.
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Adz
still It's still like, a I mean, you hit the lottery if you win one of those, right?
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Russell Gibson
The actual lottery. You're like the Mavericks winning the lottery.
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Adz
Hmm.
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Adz
She's got the same percentage chance of hitting it too.
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Russell Gibson
I reckon the Mavs have got better chances than us getting one of those cards.
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Adz
Yeah, true. It's a Nuskip. Yeah, one of the autos for sure.
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Russell Gibson
All right, talk about winning the lottery. Let's talk about the Miami Heat. This is a very heat move. They picked up Norman Powell. I think this for me so far is my favorite move the offseason, which is why we're doing it really high up the run sheet.
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Adz
right at the top of the sheet.
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Russell Gibson
The Clippers, Jazz and the Heat have agreed to a trade that sends normal power to the Miami, John Collins to the Clippers and Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and a 27 Clippers second round pick to the Jazz.
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Russell Gibson
So I think from the Jazz's perspective, they're unloading Collins and his contract and they also pick up a future asset, which is a very Danny Ainge type thing.
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Russell Gibson
Kevin O'Connor was raving about this trade in terms of the Clippers.
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Adz
Wow.
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Russell Gibson
So they're saying that this is like a ah lob threat for Harden to throw to. It gives their front court all these different ways they can play.
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Adz
Okay.
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Russell Gibson
So now they can play big with Collins at the four or small with him at the five and give them
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Adz
Yeah, yeah
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Russell Gibson
you know, injury protection for Zubac, you know, on and on. Look, I personally think that John Collins is washed. I think the other thing to look at too is check out his three-point shooting numbers. Since he's had that finger injury, his three-point shooting numbers have just been in the absolute shitter.
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Adz
yeah.
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Russell Gibson
And I think that was a big part of his game, you know?
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tend to agree with what you're saying. like The Collins side of it might have these versatility and utility upsides, but Powell's the reason that Clip has actually jumped into some form of relevance last year.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think that's the thing for me is that he was really the glue for that team because when Quilin isn't there, which you can't really depend on him for more than, you know, 55 to 60 games, like let's be sort of generous and give him, say, 65, but...
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Adz
I think they've really subtracted. Yeah.
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Adz
Mm. Yep. Yep.
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Russell Gibson
And then also Harden is slowing down every year. I think, you know, he's still a very, very good NBA player.
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Adz
Mm.
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Adz
Yeah, for sure.
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Russell Gibson
I think the other thing to sort of remember too is that Powell would have been an all-star last year. It's just the way that all that injury replacement worked out and then, you know, LeBron not being there at the end. So look, I'm really, really high on this.
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Russell Gibson
The only thing about it is it's a little bit like picking up Jimmy Butler Maybe this is a bit unfair to say because he did take them to the finals, but I just don't think you're going to win a championship with Norman Powell. Like, it's a really good pickup, but I think the Heat still need to keep doing.
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Adz
yeah Yeah, I think it's a good pick up, but it's one of many, many pieces.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
yeah Yeah, sure, sure.
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Russell Gibson
But I still think they're the best in the business at getting NBA veterans into and into a program.
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Adz
Turning something into, well, funnily enough, you know, yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
A-plus, honestly. All right. So I think if we're talking card value, why don't we check out John Collins? i have not checked out his value for... I feel like five years. i was definitely dabbling and prospecting in some of his cards, you know, back in the day.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
i think this is going to be a fun one just to like, you know, look back on. um Can you please predict for me what a silver PSA 10 for John Collins is selling for 40 bucks?
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Adz
my...
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Russell Gibson
Last sale 23. The sale before that was 35. So you're not too far away, to be honest.
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Adz
Is that US?
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Russell Gibson
USD. USD.
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Adz
So I reckon I'd be right if it was converted.
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Russell Gibson
Oh, were you saying Aussie dollars, were you, mate?
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Adz
I was... had to look at like... i was... Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
All right, I'll give it to you.
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Adz
I'm going ah
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Russell Gibson
That's fine. um Look, is this a stay away? Is this a buy? Look, I think at this point of his career, this is a PC-only purchase.
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Adz
Yeah, for sure.
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Russell Gibson
there's not There's not a huge amount of upside here.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
All right, so moving on, let's just set the table a little bit on this. The Pacers make the finals last year. Halliburton has a horrible, horrible injury in Game 7.
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Russell Gibson
The Pacers lowball Miles Turner, he then goes to the Bucs after the Bucs wave and buyout Damian Lillard. So now the Pacers have got no more point guard, no more starting center.
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Russell Gibson
They've got to fill this up. So Isaiah Jackson, who's basically been injured most of this year, has been re-signed. Three years, $21 million. dollars I think this is really interesting because I think he's actually a good player.
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Russell Gibson
And in some ways he does some things on the court that's better than Myles Turner.
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Adz
hmm
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Russell Gibson
I think the obvious thing that he can't do is set picks as well and shoot consistently from the perimeter and sort of from the mid range. I think that's the two things that Myles Turner can do better.
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Adz
hmm
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Russell Gibson
But defensively, i really like him. I think he's defensive versatility great. I need to be really careful the way I say this because Turner's a good defender, but I think that um Jackson is a lot more mobile. So I think when you've got him out on the floor, like your rotation's actually like a lot better.
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Russell Gibson
So I like that about this guy.
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Adz
Okay.
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Russell Gibson
So i think I think for three years, $21 million dollars and the potential this guy's your starting five man, like that is an absolute home run. So the other thing too is I think if we're being honest here,
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Russell Gibson
the Pacers were trying to save some money. And so to do this and not have to overpay him, because like, what if he said, or somehow he was like, look, who else are you going to pay to be a starting center?
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
And, you know, now you need to give me 20 million.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Do you know what i mean Like, like why couldn't he have, you know, done that in some sort of weird way?
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Adz
That's fair.
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Russell Gibson
So yeah, look, I think I couldn't even imagine this guy is going to be in card letter.
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Adz
I can't. No, I don't think he is.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, so Isaiah Jackson, this is just going from sold listings on Card Ladder. Numbered to $1.99, this sold for $2. That's a prism, a blue prism.
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Adz
He's not. at Yeah, there's no. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Look, I think if you're low-end prospecting on someone that is going to be improving and going upwards, his Prism Rookie Autograph for $5. There's a Zebra. so Zebra is a case hit. That's in select.
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Russell Gibson
That's for $6.85. I think that's veteran by the looks of it.
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Adz
Okay.
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Russell Gibson
$2 for an Orange Cracked Ice Rookie Prism card.
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Adz
If you're paying that sub $10 for a card, what not? Like if it's something you're prospecting on, sure.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, look, because you know the funny thing about the Pacers is they're going to be absolutely terrible this year. so I think this year is an absolute write-off. I think my play with the Pacers, like if you're high on the Pacers like I was last year, I think you just spend the next 12 months just prospecting this team.
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Adz
Yeah, maybe.
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Russell Gibson
just watching the pieces, like watch how the rotations play out.
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Adz
See, Arkham's still there.
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Russell Gibson
Salcom, yeah, I think he's already like, for me, that's a known quantity though. Like I'm talking about like Matthew and Ben Shepard.
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Adz
Matthew and Nace. Yeah, okay.
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Russell Gibson
Now it's Isaiah Jackson. You know, I think that's who you sort of, you know, spend the next 12 months looking at.
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Adz
Okay.
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Adz
Okay.
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Russell Gibson
And if you're picking up these cards for a couple of bucks, I think that's, you know, totally legit. I think this is like absolute and NBA card nerd at its highest peak though.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Like we're talking, we're,
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Adz
Like dollar box prospecting.
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Russell Gibson
Isaiah Jackson. like We're frothing over Isaiah Jackson, but at the same time, this is kind of fun.
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Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Having bit of fun.
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Russell Gibson
um
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Adz
Challenges at card shows.
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Russell Gibson
paces
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Adz
Yeah, sure.
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Russell Gibson
yeah Paces also re-signed James Wiseman. Look, I think this guy was the number two overall pick back in the day. People spent an absolute boatload of money on this guy. I don't think this is anything to be like overly excited about in terms of him recovering his card value.
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Adz
To not move.
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Adz
No, not moving the needle in my eyes.
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Russell Gibson
But at the same time, it's good news for James Wiseman. i'm I'm glad he's still in the league. Let me put it to you that way. I think that's that's really, really good.
00:15:07.96
Adz
For sure. For sure.
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Russell Gibson
We're already at the 15-minute mark. Do you want to do one more quick one before we go?
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Adz
um We can do one more, one real quick one.
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Russell Gibson
this is for you. DeAndre Ayton has signed with the Lakers.
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Adz
Is that a big one though?
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Russell Gibson
I think he's going to be starting at five for you.
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Adz
But I guarantee you'll be starting at the five for the Lakers.
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Russell Gibson
Because yeah the other guy they've got in their pivot spot is Jackson Hayes, which I really like.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Adz
Yep.
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Russell Gibson
But I think defensively, he is just not up to the task. My only thing about Aiden is like, he's a good mid-range shooter. He doesn't really have three-point range.
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Russell Gibson
His defensive rebounding is not fantastic.
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Adz
but he's a good pick and roll big. Like he's, he, last time he played in, he played in the NBA finals alongside Chris Paul.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Switch out Chris Paul for Luka Doncic or LeBron James.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Like another very cerebral two basketballers. I think this guy will be fine. Hmm.
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Russell Gibson
yeah I think offensively he's going to be fine. And I think on his good nights, he's going to be good.
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Adz
Yep.
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Russell Gibson
My issue with him is his rebounding. Because like what do the Lakers need, in your opinion?
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Adz
A center. they I know they need rebounding.
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Russell Gibson
That defends and like maybe can move their feet a little bit and cover for Luka, cover for LeBron.
00:16:24.46
Adz
Yeah.
00:16:26.50
Russell Gibson
Because let's be honest, yeah.
00:16:27.24
Adz
Protect the paint. yeah but Yeah. We need a paint... A rim protector.
00:16:30.70
Russell Gibson
I just feel like that's not really what he's known for and what he's exceptional at. And so, look, I think it's a really good pickup for the situation that they're in.
00:16:41.03
Adz
Yeah. I mean, given given what... Because all the centres just disappeared one by one and the Lakers were doing nothing.
00:16:46.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:16:47.05
Adz
So... I think they made their decision that this was the body that they were going to get. um
00:16:52.80
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:16:54.47
Adz
And look, the fact that they, a again against the Nuggets, against the Timberwolves, they didn't even get a chance to play the Nuggets. Against the T-Wolves, they got absolutely mauled inside and Jackson Hayes played five minutes of basketball.
00:17:09.31
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:17:09.83
Adz
So having a nice big body like DeAndre Ayton against that caliber of center is going to be good.
00:17:15.89
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:17:18.99
Adz
It also changes their options.
00:17:19.01
Russell Gibson
Look, I think he's going to be good for 24 minutes, but then what are you going to do with the other 24? Like that's sort of where I'm at.
00:17:24.94
Adz
You got Jackson Hayes rim running.
00:17:25.26
Russell Gibson
You know, the, yeah.
00:17:26.34
Adz
Like I think that'll be the, yeah.
00:17:28.15
Russell Gibson
Give him 10 minutes. I think still 10 more minutes.
00:17:29.52
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:31.21
Russell Gibson
um You know, Brooke Lopez would have been good for you guys, but he signed with the Clippers for two years, 18. Yeah.
00:17:35.89
Adz
Yeah. He's already been a Laker once. he probably didn't want to go back. One of those. Yep. Seen a lot of people go to the Clippers after not, yeah, after short periods with the Lakers.
00:17:42.05
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:17:46.09
Russell Gibson
yeah ah Alrighty. Let's go to a break. Thank you to fastbreaktradingcards.com. I think last week I frothed over them at a pretty high level.
00:17:59.55
Russell Gibson
I was absolutely impressed at what they did at the CollectFest and representing TOPS.
00:18:03.08
Adz
Yeah.
00:18:04.04
Russell Gibson
That was just fantastic. So, lads, again, congrats. Go to fastbreaktrainingcards.com. There you will find sports training cards, TOPS, basketball, football, baseball, soccer, Formula 1, tennis, UFC, WWE.
00:18:17.11
Russell Gibson
Location, 75 Chilip Street in Cheltenham, Friday 12 to 6, Saturday 9 to Sunday 10 to 4. You can give them a call. You can hit them on Instagram or Facebook.
00:18:28.33
Russell Gibson
The guys are very, very helpful. They'll answer all of your questions questions about your collection. I got those two words mixed up then, but no one would have noticed that.
00:18:35.92
Adz
I will. No.
00:18:39.40
Russell Gibson
Fanatics, Authentic Memorabilia, TCG Entertainment, Disney Locarno, Pokemon One Piece, Star Wars, and ah no stabbings in the car park in Cheltenham. We're going to talk about that a little bit later on.
00:18:49.76
Adz
don no Well, to give them a bit of a shout out as well, I went into the store the the other day and the boys top notch as always.
00:19:01.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:19:01.38
Adz
But it's the it's the grassroots stuff to me.
00:19:01.43
Russell Gibson
100%.
00:19:04.14
Adz
it's the It's the kids coming in after basketball.
00:19:04.49
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:19:06.60
Adz
They were playing their finals games and kids were celebrating and getting packs.
00:19:07.26
Russell Gibson
yeah Yeah.
00:19:11.31
Adz
and Yeah, yeah.
00:19:11.64
Russell Gibson
They know what's up. They've got a vision in their head of how their shop should look. Yeah.
00:19:15.90
Adz
Yeah, yeah. These, these, John and Alvaro basically taking care of the future of our hobby by nurturing grassroots collecting. Yeah.
00:19:31.94
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, we are back and we are going to continue on with the Lakers selling for $10 billion. dollars Actually, it turns out that's not the whole piece.
00:19:41.04
Adz
Ha ha ha.
00:19:41.18
Russell Gibson
That's about 75%. We've quickly touched on this already. i just wanted to get your opinion on this. Where are you at with this?
00:19:49.14
Adz
um
00:19:52.29
Adz
Yeah, look, I think it was time with the Lakers. I'm excited. i think it's going to usher a new era of um sort of front office spending in my eyes.
00:20:06.13
Russell Gibson
Does that give you confidence are you a bit apprehensive about it? Because...
00:20:10.14
Adz
Jeannie's still staying around, and I like Jeannie Buss being a part of things through the transition, but seeing what what the owner what our owner has done with the other Los Angeles team, obviously, most recently, it's the Dodgers, isn't it, that he that he's acquired most recently?
00:20:15.40
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:20:31.43
Adz
Was it the Dodgers or the Rams? But he he's done the the Los Angeles team. He's just spent money, and we we now have – We're in the spotlight. That's where we want to be. We want to be making moves and and contending for championships because that's that's what the Lakers brand is.
00:20:41.56
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:20:47.38
Adz
And that's probably why it's sold for double figures in the billions.
00:20:47.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:20:53.01
Adz
It's a lot of money.
00:20:54.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think my i thought about Jerry Buss passing was obviously like RIP, but basketball wise is um how much was that going to impact relationship building within the league?
00:21:03.48
Adz
Of course.
00:21:10.63
Adz
oh
00:21:11.72
Russell Gibson
But like what we have seen is that hasn't made any difference at all.
00:21:15.64
Adz
No.
00:21:15.92
Russell Gibson
Like, like Luca coming for nothing is like Shaq going to the Lakers for nothing. You know i mean? it's just like that whole thing again and again.
00:21:22.57
Adz
Look, i think Jeannie learned a lot from ah from her dad. And i think she's probably the key to the organization as far as the bus family goes.
00:21:31.02
Russell Gibson
yeah Interesting. Interesting.
00:21:32.62
Adz
And and she maintained, ah suppose, the... the the spirit of what Dr. Buss envisaged with the future of the Lakers. And and and I think she's passing that on to, for a lot of money, of course, but into good hands with the same view of winning.
00:21:49.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Oh, I'm glad that you're optimistic about it because I think that would be like the thing that would be on my mind if I was a Lakers fan. It's like things are going very, very well. like And they've clearly got a recipe that works.
00:21:59.65
Adz
Yeah.
00:22:01.23
Russell Gibson
Like is selling the team on going to affect that?
00:22:03.95
Adz
Yeah. A bit like, i think um this sort of becomes a time where you go, is there more I could do? or is someone else capable of doing more?
00:22:13.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:22:14.12
Adz
And I mean, it's a lot of money to pass up. Obviously, there there there's more than just Jeannie in the family.
00:22:20.49
Russell Gibson
I know 10 billion is a lot, but at the same time, is that actually not enough for them?
00:22:20.50
Adz
um
00:22:25.87
Adz
Well, it gives the the bus kids their their their pocket money, and then they can stop meddling in the the team.
00:22:31.59
Russell Gibson
But if like lower teams are selling for 3 billion, like, you know, actually, anyway, let's not go into this too much, but
00:22:36.73
Adz
But if the if the Lakers are selling for more than $10 billion, $10 billion is just what the the majority share shareholding is.
00:22:41.19
Russell Gibson
that is true. That's correct. Yep.
00:22:43.91
Adz
yeah
00:22:44.72
Russell Gibson
Correct.
00:22:45.10
Adz
So, yeah.
00:22:45.14
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:22:46.28
Adz
I don't know. Look, it'll be interesting to see moving forward what the going rate for a franchise is.
00:22:52.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:22:54.03
Adz
ah But it doesn't surprise me that the Lakers went for this much and it doesn't surprise me that the bo the move's been made. I think... there's there There may have been a feeling family-wise from the bus family that things were a bit stuck.
00:23:07.98
Adz
um So maybe this is a way forward.
00:23:10.60
Russell Gibson
I wonder what she does next. I'd like to see what her next thing will be after that.
00:23:13.56
Adz
Hmm. Hmm.
00:23:15.59
Russell Gibson
All right. That story was for you. This story is for me. This is from Bobby Marks on X. Herb Jones extension. My boy Herb Jones is going to be staying in the big easy. 25, 26 at
00:23:35.35
Russell Gibson
27, 28, 20 million, twenty eight twenty nine twenty two point five and twenty nine thirty twenty four point two I think that this is an really just frankly an excellent contract.
00:23:47.94
Russell Gibson
I think this is very tradable, especially as we go into the new CBA.
00:23:50.16
Adz
Yeah.
00:23:53.84
Russell Gibson
And um I think also too, he's going to be a very desired and NBA player after we've just seen what the OKC Thunder have done with 3 and D players. And I think that's what excites me like the most about this kid.
00:24:04.34
Adz
Mmm.
00:24:08.15
Russell Gibson
And so I think what we probably should do is just have a really quick look at his values on card ladder. And then we should just really quickly look at um the New Orleans roster because they've basically reshaped their entire roster now.
00:24:21.44
Russell Gibson
And whether you, I mean, I was very critical last week.
00:24:26.18
Adz
When you said reshaped, I said blew it up, but anyway.
00:24:30.73
Russell Gibson
I mean, they haven't, they haven't bottomed it out. That's the other thing too. I think they're trying to win.
00:24:35.64
Adz
Yeah. I don't know, the West is so competitive. um
00:24:41.51
Russell Gibson
Insanely competitive though, not just like a little bit.
00:24:42.72
Adz
I just i just don't think i think i don't think tweaking here and there is gonna get you there. To be fair though, and there are two teams in this window, at some point with the expansion,
00:24:54.81
Adz
New Orleans could be in the sweepstakes to be moved east.
00:24:58.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:24:59.97
Adz
Same as Memphis. So that would look better because in the west in the eastern conference, the Pelicans probably be a top 14. Yep.
00:25:09.90
Russell Gibson
So he's not on Card Ladder, so obviously he's still a fringe player, but I'm just looking at my own eBay history now. I don't even need to like actually do research on this. A silver raw for $2.09.
00:25:21.26
Adz
yeah
00:25:21.88
Russell Gibson
A Spectra ah RPA number to 35 for US 44. I probably overpaid on that. A Silver Prism autograph for $12.76.
00:25:33.17
Russell Gibson
I'm very middling on that, whether i whether that's good or not.
00:25:33.94
Adz
and Okay.
00:25:38.19
Russell Gibson
A Select Rookie autograph for 15. Yeah, I overpaid on that. And then a Red, White, and Blue for $5 Aussie.
00:25:45.50
Adz
That's fair.
00:25:45.55
Russell Gibson
um that i think that might have even been posted ad, to be honest. um I missed out, though.
00:25:53.35
Russell Gibson
See if I can find this.
00:26:00.03
Russell Gibson
I bought a silver PSA 7 for $5.25. I can't find it. There was a PSA 10 that recently sold and I missed out on that. It didn't go for much.
00:26:08.32
Adz
Really?
00:26:08.90
Russell Gibson
It went for like 30 or 40 bucks. it You know, it wasn't really much at all. So he's sort of trading in that John Collins range. You know, do you want Herb Jones or John Collins at this point?
00:26:20.32
Adz
Yeah, yeah. this isn't This isn't the high end, like, yeah, prospecting.
00:26:21.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:26:25.04
Russell Gibson
No, no, absolutely not. But i I think also too, I've sort of been liking this kid for a couple of years now.
00:26:30.49
Adz
You very much have. Yeah, for sure.
00:26:31.78
Russell Gibson
yeah And now I'm looking at this roster now and I'm like, I kind of see what they're doing. They've gotten rid of a couple of the old guys. They've gotten rid of Ingram. CJ McCollum's gone. So that leaves them with Jose Alvarado
00:26:45.17
Adz
Yeah.
00:26:47.48
Russell Gibson
Jordan Hawkins, Herb Jones, Kevin Looney's gone there to give them a big guy, Eves Messi, Trey Murphy. I think you need to look from a big year for him this year.
00:26:55.42
Adz
okay
00:26:57.20
Russell Gibson
Dejounte Murray is going to be back later in the year. Jordan Poole is going to be there. I think that's going to mess me up a little bit, but that's okay. And then of course, you know, Big Z. So, you know, it's really funny. So actually it's a very young roster.
00:27:10.58
Russell Gibson
The oldest person on that roster, I don't even need to really look it up, do i It's going to be
00:27:17.64
Adz
Loony, isn't it?
00:27:18.47
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's got to be Looney by like a long shot. Looney's only 29. I thought that guy was like 45.
00:27:24.50
Adz
Wow.
00:27:24.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah,
00:27:26.20
Adz
I thought he was in his early 30s at least. Yeah.
00:27:28.00
Russell Gibson
yeah yeah, he's not. Alfred Payton's 31.
00:27:30.67
Adz
Wow.
00:27:31.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so that's a really young roster.
00:27:31.76
Adz
Okay.
00:27:32.68
Russell Gibson
That's actually quite an interesting one.
00:27:32.71
Adz
Yeah.
00:27:34.88
Russell Gibson
Anyway, let's see how that plays out.
00:27:36.31
Adz
Yeah.
00:27:38.57
Russell Gibson
All right. This next one I found off X. This is from at Bryce Snap, spelled B-R-Y-C-E-S-N-A-P-E. And basically he bought a Penny Hardaway 1998 Fleer tradition that was serial numbered. I'm using air quotes on this now.
00:27:58.28
Russell Gibson
55 out of 100. And went through the authentication program on eBay because it was sold for raw $5,000.
00:28:05.83
Adz
Yep.
00:28:06.22
Russell Gibson
Sent it off to PSA who graded at an eight. And he was pretty happy with that just because of how rare these particular cards are.
00:28:14.51
Adz
Yep.
00:28:15.51
Russell Gibson
He was then emailed after the fact to say, look, our senior graders have looked at this and we've decertified it. Initially their response was too bad, so sad. Then he went on to X, tagged in all the big boys, including PSA, eBay,
00:28:27.89
Adz
Wow.
00:28:32.15
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:28:35.64
Russell Gibson
Um, and at, uh, Hodge, which I think I should start following this guy. Oh, he's the president of PSA.
00:28:40.99
Adz
The president of PSA. Yeah.
00:28:42.44
Russell Gibson
There you Right. And then it all got sorted out and he got made good. So, um really good news story at the end of the day. However, I think that they should have processes in place to fix people up without this going public.
00:28:55.14
Adz
Yeah. yeah
00:28:58.06
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
00:28:58.47
Russell Gibson
Uh,
00:28:59.06
Adz
Without having to go.
00:29:01.03
Russell Gibson
Because I think that's the thing. so And I've heard a few people say this around the traps is that you pay all this extra money for the PSA guarantee, but then how many people do you know that have received guarantee money back?
00:29:16.79
Adz
Yeah.
00:29:18.93
Russell Gibson
So it's almost like a fake promise in that it's like your insurance company that yeah that doesn't pay out you know when you want to go make a claim.
00:29:21.31
Adz
Is it really a guarantee? Yeah.
00:29:25.94
Adz
Yeah. it when When things hit the fan, all of a sudden it's like, oh, what?
00:29:28.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:29:29.85
Adz
You want us to pay you?
00:29:31.09
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:29:31.17
Adz
Oh, no, no, no, Couldn't possibly do that. Yeah.
00:29:33.93
Russell Gibson
They should have, I personally think if they've graded a card and then after the fact do it, that to me is just like an automatic, like here's your 5k.
00:29:38.49
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:29:43.33
Russell Gibson
We've made a mistake. You know what i mean? Like that's it.
00:29:45.54
Adz
Yeah.
00:29:46.89
Russell Gibson
So look, I think this is really interesting and we're going to talk more. We're going to do an episode after today's show about a different type of scam, but I think
00:29:59.01
Russell Gibson
How can I say this in a way that's actually constructive?
00:30:02.05
Adz
Yeah.
00:30:02.06
Russell Gibson
i think I think there's so many ways to get scammed in this hobby.
00:30:06.05
Adz
yeah
00:30:06.57
Russell Gibson
And I would say that the collector that bought this card, i don't think he was a deal. i think he was very switched onto this was like a very rare card. Do you know what i mean?
00:30:16.28
Adz
Yeah. i
00:30:18.45
Russell Gibson
and then its
00:30:19.14
Adz
I think there's knowledge, which scares me.
00:30:21.19
Russell Gibson
And then eBay authentication and then PSA and then it's still wrong. like That's the part where that sort of makes my head a little bit confused.
00:30:26.52
Adz
The fact that it gets through so many layers of this security,
00:30:28.91
Russell Gibson
Correct. Yeah.
00:30:30.74
Adz
um
00:30:33.98
Adz
yeah, it's it's concerning to say the least. And we're very lucky that we've got a good group in the community of of people ah that sort of rally together.
00:30:36.50
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:30:41.44
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:30:44.59
Adz
And look, to be fair, it may have taken some time and it almost didn't happen, but at least it...
00:30:48.72
Russell Gibson
There is a process to fix it. Yeah.
00:30:50.60
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:51.35
Russell Gibson
Yeah. hundred percent. I actually, I agree with that ad because at the end of the day, there's not... And then obviously there is a scam, but there's not a scam per se is there? Like, yeah.
00:31:02.29
Adz
Yeah, like it's I mean, there are just people that are trying to deceive and it's it's Yeah.
00:31:08.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right. This is another one from Boston Card Hunter. We've already referenced this guy on the show. go onto Instagram, follow this dude. It's just good content.
00:31:16.75
Adz
Yep.
00:31:16.88
Russell Gibson
This is a product that's now being sold at Best Buy. I'm sure that all the major carriers going to start carrying this in America. It's a PSA submission kit. You get three submissions on it You get the penny sleeves. You get the protectors that you need to submit your cards into.
00:31:33.32
Adz
huh
00:31:33.41
Russell Gibson
It's got a box, so then you just put your cards into the box and post it off to PSA. It's also got PSA card stands, so when they come back, you put them on display. This is fantastic.
00:31:42.85
Adz
Okay.
00:31:44.11
Russell Gibson
It's got all the cleaning equipment that you need. For some reason, it's got elastic bands in there, which to me is like, why do you need elastic bands for your cards? But that's okay.
00:31:53.19
Adz
How much trauma is associated with putting pla rubber bands with cards?
00:31:56.64
Russell Gibson
I'm sure there's a good reason for it. um Yeah, I love this.
00:32:00.55
Adz
don't know.
00:32:01.92
Russell Gibson
I think this is really good. I think that this gets it out to um outside of the mum's basement and then brings it into like a more mainstream sort of area.
00:32:12.57
Russell Gibson
Do you know what i mean?
00:32:13.16
Adz
Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed.
00:32:13.21
Russell Gibson
Like it's getting it out there. And I think it's little things like this. This is where we're seeing growth in the hobby and more people can then access it.
00:32:21.38
Adz
Yeah.
00:32:22.10
Russell Gibson
um do I think this is bad for say, okay, for example, fast break trading cards.
00:32:23.07
Adz
Growth's a good word for it, yeah.
00:32:26.45
Russell Gibson
Do I think it's bad for them? Yeah, I do. Like, because then people don't necessarily need to go into a hobby shop and get it in. So, you know, that's the, that's the con of this pro, but I think in terms of hobby growth,
00:32:34.16
Adz
ah
00:32:37.73
Adz
if the product If the product's good, I'd almost be like, you can submit with us or you can buy one of these kits.
00:32:45.13
Russell Gibson
yeah, I just wonder
00:32:46.42
Adz
I'd be offering both. I think the fact that greg that local hobby stores give you both options would actually be beneficial.
00:32:54.97
Russell Gibson
Oh, so for example, you're saying like Fast Break would hold this stock.
00:32:57.57
Adz
Sell sell the stock.
00:32:58.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:32:58.73
Adz
Yeah. It's like you can you can wait and it come back to us. right We'll send it off for grading for you.
00:33:04.40
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:33:04.80
Adz
Or here's a submission kit you can get for you can send five cards off in your own time.
00:33:09.57
Russell Gibson
My only thing with this, it's like you go into a hobby shop with the boys, they look at your cards and say, look,
00:33:16.79
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:33:17.39
Russell Gibson
I've heard them say this almost word for word. Look, I'm not a grader. However, I wouldn't recommend you sending this card in for so-and-so reasons. Then the person can say, look, I still want to send it in anyway.
00:33:27.69
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I've said, yeah.
00:33:28.53
Russell Gibson
So I think where I'm going with this is like, I think people would probably send in cards that maybe shouldn't be sent off or maybe they haven't been prepared properly.
00:33:34.48
Adz
Yeah.
00:33:36.89
Russell Gibson
So where I'm going with this is like they haven't been cleaned properly or they haven't been um clean buffed by PSA, you know, before they've been sent off. And so,
00:33:45.89
Adz
Yeah, fair, fair, fair, very fair.
00:33:47.24
Russell Gibson
You know, is this going to be like a whole heap of, you know, junk waxy sort of stuff being sent off? Look, I, but on the other hand too, like if this is your PC and this is the stuff you want to grade, like who cares about the resale and populations and stuff?
00:33:55.38
Adz
Mm.
00:34:01.65
Adz
cur
00:34:03.49
Russell Gibson
You know what i mean Like if this is your hobby, you get, actually I'm wrong. It's four $25 a piece grading credits. So that's like, that's even more fun.
00:34:13.41
Adz
Yeah.
00:34:14.80
Russell Gibson
Right?
00:34:15.23
Adz
Yeah.
00:34:16.56
Russell Gibson
That's just good value.
00:34:18.30
Adz
It is. And I think having more access to the process is, it can't be bad for the hobby.
00:34:22.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:34:25.93
Russell Gibson
Hmm.
00:34:26.91
Adz
Because there are people that don't do it through stores.
00:34:31.38
Russell Gibson
Correct.
00:34:32.08
Adz
People want to dabble in it and this gives them, you can do it at home. You can try grading for yourself.
00:34:38.50
Russell Gibson
Definitely.
00:34:38.97
Adz
It probably means we're going to be having a lot more PSA 6s and 7s in the market, but so be it.
00:34:44.75
Russell Gibson
That's it. That's it.
00:34:47.15
Adz
Maybe maybe that makes PSA 10s that much more difficult to get. Yep.
00:34:54.12
Russell Gibson
Or more valuable. yeah
00:34:57.37
Russell Gibson
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00:35:09.75
Russell Gibson
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00:35:26.39
Russell Gibson
click on check out my cards submission, complete the form right on the form. You can't comp this. You'll get a free card submission given back to you as as credit. Basically is how I understand it.
00:35:39.88
Adz
Yeah. It's awesome.
00:35:42.79
Russell Gibson
Let's have a look at what sports breaks they've got. on I don't know how often Roscoe updates this, but they've got a WWE wwe break. And then let's just really check out his hobby boxes. What has he got for MLB?
00:35:57.04
Adz
What have we got?
00:35:58.36
Russell Gibson
He's got 2021 Topps MLB Series 1 Hobby Packets for $12. 2022 Topps Chrome Baseball Hobby Box for $2.61. 2021 Chrome Platinum Anniversary Baseball Hobby Light Box for $1.62.
00:36:16.19
Russell Gibson
Bowman Chrome 2021 Baseball Light for $2.30. He's got heaps of stuff on there. I can't read through it all. Actually, he's got lots of baseball.
00:36:22.67
Adz
um Lots of baseball, lots of basketball available.
00:36:26.60
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:36:26.72
Adz
and Yeah.
00:36:28.27
Russell Gibson
good.
00:36:28.96
Adz
Huge range there.
00:36:30.81
Russell Gibson
Alright guys, so we'll be right back.
00:36:50.22
Russell Gibson
And we are back.
00:36:54.63
Adz
We are. um You've just gone on mute.
00:36:59.60
Russell Gibson
And we are back.
00:37:02.49
Adz
We're back.
00:37:05.52
Russell Gibson
We're going to talk about Malik Beasley.
00:37:08.21
Adz
Uh-oh.
00:37:08.87
Russell Gibson
Now, you might say, why are we going to talk about this?
00:37:09.95
Adz
um um um i'm putting I'm putting my sports bet account away. I'm not getting involved.
00:37:14.66
Russell Gibson
You might say, what has this got to do with basketball cards? Not a lot. This is just because I like talking about conspiracies.
00:37:20.81
Adz
Conspiracies. Allegations.
00:37:22.80
Russell Gibson
at this At this point in time, this is all allegations, but when you start looking at some of the footage that people have put together, it doesn't look fantastic for the guy.
00:37:34.14
Russell Gibson
So I think if you want to find out more about this, just go onto Instagram and just search for Malik Beasley. There's heaps of videos that will come up. We're just going to go through this at a pretty high level. um This is from at the sports place.
00:37:47.79
Russell Gibson
Malik Beasley is and in some deep water.
00:37:53.58
Adz
Yes.
00:37:55.00
Russell Gibson
Court records reveal a $5.8 million dollars judgment from the South River Capitol in 2022, followed debts to $34,000. That's a of haircuts, man.
00:38:06.47
Russell Gibson
a dentist. that. can imagine that. thirty four thousand dollars
00:38:10.57
Adz
Keep that fresh fade.
00:38:12.85
Russell Gibson
that's a lot of haircuts man
00:38:14.31
Adz
ah And his crew.
00:38:15.77
Russell Gibson
to a dentist i get that to a dentist thirty five thousand i could imagine that
00:38:17.05
Adz
Yep.
00:38:20.09
Adz
Nah. Nah.
00:38:23.52
Adz
wow
00:38:23.71
Russell Gibson
Lawsuits also for unpaid rent and then $7,000 in another suit. That to me doesn't sound like that much money, but like the $5.8 million dollars in total obviously is a really big number.
00:38:38.17
Russell Gibson
$650,000 for an unpaid marketing advance and then $2.25 million dollars for a breach of contract. Look, i I kind of get... why he would then be i trying to make money from an alternative source.
00:38:54.75
Russell Gibson
And it's also unclear if he's in with bookies or he was independently trying to influence the lines and just like betting himself.
00:39:03.67
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:04.36
Russell Gibson
There's not a heap of information out there in terms of
00:39:06.90
Adz
I don't think he's a dependable enough shooter to be able to move the lines.
00:39:10.47
Russell Gibson
So one of the videos when the line was like 8.5, he had the ball at the very end of the game. He ran down the court and then quickly scored two points to get them over the line.
00:39:22.29
Russell Gibson
And so what would normally happen in that instance, hold the ball, be the professional and let it run out.
00:39:24.35
Adz
Oh, you'd hold the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:28.00
Russell Gibson
And so, and you see, so we spoke about this earlier on the pod when it was like the Warriors were on the court and they were talking about the line.
00:39:28.80
Adz
Okay, okay.
00:39:35.53
Adz
Yeah.
00:39:36.53
Russell Gibson
And then like one of the guys shot the shot and made it in. So it's like,
00:39:41.06
Adz
Okay. Yeah.
00:39:41.83
Russell Gibson
you You can't then extrapolate that to say every player on the Warriors is then gambling. like I think part of this too is like these guys are just bored and they do stuff to keep themselves entertained.
00:39:46.59
Adz
Gabby, yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah.
00:39:51.68
Russell Gibson
But I think when you're doing stuff like that, when it's so obvious...
00:39:52.27
Adz
Yeah.
00:39:55.07
Adz
Yeah, in-game stuff that's, yeah.
00:39:57.05
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:39:57.87
Adz
Yeah, for sure. think there's concerns.
00:39:59.04
Russell Gibson
So I think... I think where I'm a little bit disappointed on this is that he had a fantastic year overall for the Pistons last year.
00:40:06.90
Adz
He did.
00:40:07.97
Russell Gibson
And it just leaves a little bit of a bitter of taste in your mouth when some of the stuff was in the playoffs and you sort of see the footage when he's dropping the ball. And it's like, did he do that on purpose?
00:40:19.15
Russell Gibson
Because there was that end of game thing that he had when he had the the turnover and it's like,
00:40:22.13
Adz
Yep. Yep.
00:40:26.69
Russell Gibson
I don't know. Like how far, you know, would these guys go? Would they actually throw a playoff game?
00:40:33.45
Russell Gibson
Anyway, I think ironically, it's also come out at a time when he was a free agent, when he probably could have got paid a significant amount of money.
00:40:40.75
Adz
Yeah, I think it's I think that's.
00:40:42.98
Russell Gibson
Like he played really well last year. And I think that I'm also frustrated about that. um i think from a card perspective, I haven't invested into this guy, but at the same time, you know There was an argument to be made that you should have been buying Malik Beasley last year.
00:40:59.75
Adz
Agreed.
00:41:02.27
Adz
Agreed.
00:41:02.29
Russell Gibson
You know what I mean? like so so i think it um
00:41:03.89
Adz
He was he looked all right. and And look, it's not saying he won't look all right again. We'll see what happens with the scan. Yeah, if things are investigated and things come of it.
00:41:13.86
Russell Gibson
So my understanding of how this is going to play out, he's not being offered a contract.
00:41:18.67
Adz
Really? Yeah,
00:41:19.61
Russell Gibson
So this has definitely affected his income.
00:41:24.50
Adz
yeah yeah, for sure.
00:41:25.35
Russell Gibson
This is going to affect him moving forward.
00:41:25.61
Adz
Okay.
00:41:26.91
Russell Gibson
And so i think interesting paradigm here is we can talk about Terry Rozier. So there was a story last year that came out with him and it's only just now he's been cleared.
00:41:35.68
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:41:38.70
Russell Gibson
So if we're going to follow the same timeline on this,
00:41:42.71
Adz
It's gonna be a while.
00:41:44.25
Russell Gibson
effectively that's a season of no salary plus all the reputational damage. And so do you know what i mean? Like maybe he'll sign on for like a veteran minimum at the end of this season coming up if he's all cleared, but this is not looking fantastic.
00:41:52.71
Adz
Yeah, okay.
00:42:00.90
Russell Gibson
I think with the the footage that came out, that the debts that there,
00:42:05.85
Adz
Things are gonna Yeah, yeah. and And things need to be followed due dupricate or due process or whatever it is.
00:42:07.33
Russell Gibson
not great.
00:42:11.83
Russell Gibson
I got to tell you, though, ad I think this is just like the tip of the iceberg. I don't reckon Terry Rozier, Tim Donoghue, Malik Beasley are the only three Muppets betting on NBA games.
00:42:19.56
Adz
They're not the only ones.
00:42:23.81
Russell Gibson
And so, you know, my strong opinion about this is that regulation or oversight
00:42:30.07
Adz
Well, the betting only recently really came back into the forefront in America.
00:42:37.33
Russell Gibson
Well, so my argument for that is actually it's been happening through illegal channels.
00:42:42.03
Adz
Yeah, fair.
00:42:42.56
Russell Gibson
But now that the NBA is actually doing live sports betting and got their own books and they're investing money into looking at egregious bets and looking at players' behavior, i think that's the win out of all this.
00:42:42.70
Adz
Fair, fair, fair.
00:42:48.08
Adz
You've got to
00:42:55.00
Adz
Yeah.
00:42:57.15
Russell Gibson
And so, like I was talking about oversight and regulation, like that to me is like where that's at. So,
00:43:02.82
Adz
Yeah, for sure.
00:43:03.99
Russell Gibson
you know, look, if I got to be honest with you, it's absolutely the dark side, but I think the referees, actually, I got to wonder with you, you know, all that stuff they do at the end of the games with like, they they review all the calls in the last two minutes and make all that information public.
00:43:05.43
Adz
It's the dark side of it, but yeah, you're ah
00:43:18.02
Adz
Yep.
00:43:18.25
Russell Gibson
i I think 100% that's related to gambling. they've They've never said that, but I think
00:43:23.52
Adz
Well, it's a good it's a goodd cross-check really, isn't it?
00:43:25.56
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but I think the motivation for it is that like that Tim Donahue stuff like publicly went away really quickly, but I wonder if in the background way more things like happen to try and you know fix that up.
00:43:36.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:43:37.46
Adz
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense to me completely, yeah.
00:43:38.40
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:43:40.71
Russell Gibson
All right, I've written in the sheet here that Polo Banchero re-sings, but actually what that should say is he's re-signed for up to $287 million.
00:43:47.53
Adz
He's re-signing. He's not singing.
00:43:52.28
Russell Gibson
dollars Last week, I was absolutely waxing lyrical about the Magic. I still haven't changed my stance on this.
00:43:58.68
Adz
They're stacked.
00:43:58.89
Russell Gibson
Banchero is an absolute buy. Buckle up. This is going to be, I think, a massive year for the Magic.
00:44:05.00
Adz
It's the case. Yeah, it's gonna be it's just like last year's eruption of CAID.
00:44:06.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:44:10.16
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:44:10.27
Adz
It's Banchero's time turn.
00:44:11.69
Russell Gibson
hundred percent 100%.
00:44:12.80
Adz
Agreed.
00:44:13.01
Russell Gibson
On the flip side, we've got Nicole Jokic. This came out from The Score reported that he has informed the Nuggets he won't sign a contract extension this offseason. Now, I think that if you're a Nuggets fan, the obvious thing is to be like, I'm very worried about this, la, la, la, la.
00:44:22.15
Adz
Yep.
00:44:28.99
Russell Gibson
However, what you need to remember is every year that you wait until you sign your next extension with the new CBA kicking in,
00:44:30.56
Adz
yeah
00:44:38.15
Adz
you more money yeah i think he ends up with another 80 or something if he if he waits
00:44:39.00
Russell Gibson
So we're talking about you know SGA having the biggest contract ever in NBA history. Jokic might get another $30 million dollars out of this. And so I think if... Yeah.
00:44:53.42
Adz
Yeah, I know, I know, and i ah I see a lot of this, given i go for the Lakers, that as soon as something like this happens, everyone's like, see, Jokic is going to sign with the Lakers.
00:45:05.60
Adz
Like, no, he's not.
00:45:07.34
Russell Gibson
I think that's the obvious...
00:45:07.57
Adz
he's gonna he's gonna sign He's going to sign an extension. Just just hold your horses.
00:45:10.46
Russell Gibson
That's the obvious conspiracy theory. Yeah, 100%.
00:45:12.48
Adz
Yeah.
00:45:12.78
Russell Gibson
And that's kind of cool. It's fun to talk about. But I think what we should probably do is just break this down practically. You know, if he can pocket another 30, 40, 50 million dollars, like you wait 12 months. Like, you know, and then we can tie this in.
00:45:23.51
Adz
its It's pretty simple. Yeah.
00:45:26.23
Russell Gibson
Actually, this is perfect time. We can tie this into Chet and Jalen Williams. We can also tie this into Kyrie Irving.
00:45:33.70
Adz
True.
00:45:33.76
Russell Gibson
right So the risk that and NBA players take if they don't sign the extension, they get injured, then they don't get paid. But we we don't see that with stars. Like the Nets signed KD, paid him max, and then he was injured for that 12 months.
00:45:44.76
Adz
Well, yeah.
00:45:49.08
Russell Gibson
Kyrie is going to be out the whole year. The Mavs have just re-upped him.
00:45:52.77
Adz
Yeah. Well, they're keeping him, right? That's the whole thing.
00:45:56.05
Russell Gibson
So he declined his player option and they re-signed him for three years, $119 million. dollars Like there's there's no genuine real risk. If that's what Kyrie's getting, imagine what Jokic is getting.
00:46:07.25
Adz
Get his value.
00:46:07.47
Russell Gibson
So,
00:46:08.05
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
00:46:08.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:46:08.53
Adz
if he If his goal is to get value to stay loyal to the club and get the most value you can out of the club, that's fine.
00:46:14.01
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:46:14.52
Adz
If he's unhappy with what Denver are doing,
00:46:17.64
Russell Gibson
I don't think that's the case.
00:46:18.33
Adz
Then he will, yeah.
00:46:19.71
Russell Gibson
I really don't think that's the case.
00:46:20.33
Adz
That said, Denver have gone and retooled.
00:46:23.24
Russell Gibson
Absolutely.
00:46:23.47
Adz
so
00:46:23.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah. We broke that down last week.
00:46:24.09
Adz
So, that yeah, that will be that will be to keep Jokic happy.
00:46:25.32
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I know you listen to the show.
00:46:31.54
Adz
Of course I listened to the show.
00:46:31.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:46:34.05
Adz
Bits of it.
00:46:34.83
Russell Gibson
All right. Really quickly.
00:46:35.58
Adz
Still catching up. I've got the episode with you and GTI, so I was too sick to listen to anything last week.
00:46:38.96
Russell Gibson
You need to listen to that. Every listener that has not listened to that episode with Comron, you guys need to go out and listen to it.
00:46:46.01
Adz
I need to chat to Comrade. Like, no, that he's got to come back. i The amount of times you're like, Adam and you would have a great discussion about this and regulation.
00:46:54.40
Russell Gibson
Lad, lad, just message him. He'll be on next week.
00:46:58.59
Adz
but
00:47:00.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:47:01.01
Adz
That was good. I liked it.
00:47:02.96
Russell Gibson
um Really quickly, and we'll go for a break.
00:47:03.24
Adz
Anyway.
00:47:05.32
Russell Gibson
um This is o OKC reporting here. Chet has re-signed for five years, $250 million. Jalen Williams for five years, $287 million. And then as we reported last week, four years, $285 million SGA.
00:47:18.21
Russell Gibson
Look, I've got no problem with this. I think this is all just a timing thing. I think the Chet contract is the most risky just due to his body, but at the same time, you have to give him his back. It's as simple as that.
00:47:27.45
Adz
You've got to give them their bag.
00:47:28.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:47:28.73
Adz
You're going to do it. And it's literally what we're watching with Boston signing Tatum and and White and and Brown all at once.
00:47:36.50
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:47:36.90
Adz
They haven't got a choice. They have to do it if they want to keep this lot together.
00:47:40.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:40.74
Adz
They're gonna spend up big. And if one or two of them gets injured and their their their window closes, that's the risk you take.
00:47:42.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:47:46.97
Russell Gibson
It's that's it. Yeah. A hundred percent. Uh, this is from at market movers app. This is a SGA flip 2019 Panini prism choice. Nebula one of one PSA 10 was bought for $8.4,000 late March of 2024.
00:48:04.61
Russell Gibson
in late march of twenty twenty four and sold for $27,500 in July 2025. twenty twenty five
00:48:14.15
Adz
Jesus.
00:48:15.27
Russell Gibson
So a nice little flip there. Congratulations to the owner of that card.
00:48:18.42
Adz
Damn right.
00:48:19.28
Russell Gibson
And thank you to Market Movers for doing some research for us.
00:48:19.58
Adz
That's huge.
00:48:23.44
Russell Gibson
We're going to go to our last break.
00:48:23.50
Adz
yeah
00:48:24.52
Russell Gibson
We do not have a active sponsor for this slot.
00:48:29.79
Adz
But if you want to be the
00:48:30.06
Russell Gibson
GTI will be coming back on shortly, but in the meantime, if anyone is out there looking to do some brand promotion, do some collaboration with our podcast, we're actually actively looking for people to come on board.
00:48:40.64
Adz
Yeah. It'd be good.
00:48:43.37
Russell Gibson
If the fit is good, we would love to work with you.
00:48:46.70
Adz
Yeah, yeah. And I think that's really important. I think everyone we've worked with over the years has really aligned with the way we view the hobby.
00:48:51.22
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:48:55.34
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:48:55.65
Adz
um And I think that's been really important to the to the sponsors we have had.
00:48:59.82
Russell Gibson
In saying that, if Backyard Breaks throws us a corporate bag of cash, we'll probably take it.
00:49:04.10
Adz
And some rigged boxes. And some rigged...
00:49:07.00
Russell Gibson
Like, let's be honest, Dad.
00:49:08.51
Adz
Yeah, yeah. I would like some rigged boxes though.
00:49:10.99
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:49:11.76
Adz
don't know. Some Cooper Flag 101s guaranteed or something.
00:49:13.98
Russell Gibson
That's it.
00:49:14.13
Adz
I don't know. Yeah. We'll lose our minds on stream. Don't you worry.
00:49:20.50
Russell Gibson
That's right. Shirt's off.
00:49:21.59
Adz
We can.
00:49:21.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:49:22.11
Adz
that's a Run around the room. Carry on. Yeah. Done.
00:49:30.72
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, we're back. And this is the last segment of this week's show. Thanks everyone for sticking around.
00:49:36.46
Adz
Can't believe we're making it through so quickly. Time flies when you're having fun.
00:49:39.72
Russell Gibson
Having fun, exactly. Devin Booker, two years, $145 million. Yeah,
00:49:48.00
Adz
Let's be fair, there's no one left in Phoenix to pay. so
00:49:50.78
Russell Gibson
yeah so I think they had to do this. This is just like for me, of all the contracts that got paid this offseason, This was an absolute no-brainer because if you lose KD and you lose Beal and you lose Booker
00:50:05.23
Adz
Booker.
00:50:08.74
Adz
You don't have a franchise.
00:50:10.11
Russell Gibson
and you don't have your picks or you don't have all of your picks and you're relying on Grayson Allen, Bol Bol, Dylan Brooks, Jalen Green,
00:50:13.77
Adz
I don't know. Yeah.
00:50:19.84
Adz
They've got, they've got, it they've they're killing everybody shooting guard-wise depth in their depth chart.
00:50:26.56
Russell Gibson
So they picked up Mark Williams, which we could probably, if I can find the link for that.
00:50:31.35
Adz
Rolling that in, yeah. Has he passed his physical this time?
00:50:37.26
Russell Gibson
Too soon.
00:50:38.36
Adz
Too soon? It's all right, when when he's injured in Phoenix.
00:50:39.21
Russell Gibson
Too soon. Mark.
00:50:41.81
Adz
Actually, no, it's probably a good place to get injured, Phoenix.
00:50:47.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:50:47.79
Adz
Yeah.
00:50:48.48
Russell Gibson
but Apparently they've got good rehab and recovery stuff.
00:50:52.60
Adz
Must be, i don't know, Kevin Durant enjoyed it. Bradley Beal enjoyed it. Booker enjoyed their time just being injured frequently.
00:50:57.26
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:50:59.75
Russell Gibson
So the Suns gave up the 29th pick in this year's draft, which turns out to be McNeely and a couple of other bits and pieces basically for Mark Williams. Look, i my only concern with Mark Williams is like, why are the Hornets so keen to trade this kid?
00:51:08.25
Adz
Yep.
00:51:15.00
Russell Gibson
That's the second time they've traded him in 12 months, right?
00:51:16.77
Adz
hu yep
00:51:18.58
Russell Gibson
That's my only sort of thing with him. It's like, what's the deal with this guy that they don't want him around? But at the same time,
00:51:24.61
Adz
Good question.
00:51:26.82
Russell Gibson
You know, if he's a prospect that just needs a new home, like that's fine. Like, let's do it. Look, this this Phoenix roster to me, when I'm looking at it, I just don't understand like what the hell they're doing. I think they need to make one or two more trades just to even this roster out a little bit because at the moment, I just feel like they've got just all shooting guards and small forwards and that's it.
00:51:47.48
Adz
That's fair.
00:51:49.45
Russell Gibson
I think Mark Williams is going to play 48 minutes a game at this point.
00:51:53.64
Adz
Well, it's going to Mark Williams and Devin Booker and Grayson Allen.
00:51:57.73
Russell Gibson
Like, is their starting front court Royce O'Neal and Mark Williams? Is that the plan?
00:52:01.90
Adz
I think so. actually like like I don't think they have a plan. I think that's giving them way too much credit.
00:52:08.51
Russell Gibson
This is going to be a long year in Phoenix, I think.
00:52:10.16
Adz
it is Phoenix are going to be one of the worst teams in the league, I think.
00:52:14.81
Russell Gibson
All right. I don't even need to question myself whether this is going to be on card letter. Let's look up Devin Booker on card letter.
00:52:23.01
Adz
Devin Booker.
00:52:36.77
Adz
I want the ladder. don't want last sales.
00:52:41.22
Russell Gibson
All right, this is actually interesting. Last sold for 600. Population on this is 236.
00:52:48.35
Adz
Look, this is rookie.
00:52:49.95
Russell Gibson
Yep, he's silver rookie PC10.
00:52:54.51
Russell Gibson
So if we go to old time, dear Jesus, have mercy. This at the peak sold for 7,650.
00:53:06.19
Russell Gibson
um currently trading at 600. If we sort of just chop out that COVID crazy, he's basically been a flat line. at his peak in 2018, he sold 760. Yeah. Hmm.
00:53:19.34
Russell Gibson
he sold for seven-sity
00:53:21.68
Adz
huh
00:53:24.04
Adz
Over the last two years, though, he's come down from 1,450 to 600 over the last two years.
00:53:28.18
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:53:30.67
Adz
there's just been this this gradual toboggan ride down.
00:53:34.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I just, I think, you what i mean, though? If you sort of chop out that huge peak and that $600 mark, I think that's actually very reasonable for Book.
00:53:40.55
Adz
he's he's just grown, yeah.
00:53:46.54
Adz
And that's from 2024. The start of 2024 is pretty much when he did that. So like the last year. You're right. Yeah, it's a bit of a roller coaster, but it's in or about that $600 to $700 mark.
00:53:58.57
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think at year eight, you know, he was the starting shooting guard on Team USA.
00:54:00.45
Adz
Yeah. of 2020.
00:54:03.45
Russell Gibson
That to me was ah like an interesting one and maybe took him by surprise a little bit, but...
00:54:03.63
Adz
yeah so end of twenty nineteen start twenty twenty Yeah, okay.
00:54:11.15
Russell Gibson
You know, has not won a championship, not won an MVP. You know, why are people spending all this money on this guy? That's like where my head was at. Like, was he always a little bit overcooked? But at 600, I'm okay with this.
00:54:22.21
Russell Gibson
My question to you right now is, do you buy, hold, or sell this? Looking at the Phoenix Suns roster for the next 12 months. For me, this is like sell.
00:54:30.15
Adz
That's a stay away if you don't have one.
00:54:31.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Or you just look at the market and see where it goes to.
00:54:33.89
Adz
Yeah.
00:54:34.42
Russell Gibson
Like, if this drops down to $200, $300, you... you literally drop every bit of cash into it that you have got free at $200 or $300.
00:54:44.34
Adz
Really? I don't know.
00:54:46.40
Russell Gibson
Yeah, definitely.
00:54:46.90
Adz
um'm i'm scared of Booker as ah as ah as ah as a as a as an item. I know there are people out there that do collect Devin Booker. I don't know.
00:54:54.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah, at $200, yeah, but like, I think at that point, it could only go up from there.
00:54:55.37
Adz
Who's jumping on? Where does he have to go?
00:55:02.50
Russell Gibson
yeah This is like K...
00:55:02.82
Adz
it depends. Phoenix could get worse.
00:55:05.44
Russell Gibson
Maybe. For me, that's just like Cade Cunningham when he dipped down for you know no good reason. Like he was just on a bad team.
00:55:12.18
Adz
Fair. But I just think Devin Booker is going to be on a bad team for a while.
00:55:15.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:55:16.34
Adz
So this could go down. a'd be I wouldn't be surprised if I see 400 in the next 12 months.
00:55:18.54
Russell Gibson
Like Cade was down at 220 at one point.
00:55:22.83
Adz
True. Very true.
00:55:23.67
Russell Gibson
Right? Yeah.
00:55:24.79
Adz
But yeah. But that's like year two, three of a career.
00:55:29.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:55:31.19
Adz
So.
00:55:31.47
Russell Gibson
Speaking of Cade, this is from Alt X Official. 2021 Flawless Vertical Just sold for $21,000. A 445% increase. the last sale, which was less than
00:55:40.62
Adz
Cha-ching.
00:55:44.84
Russell Gibson
a four hundred and forty five percent increase
00:55:45.06
Adz
like it.
00:55:48.10
Adz
I like it.
00:55:48.83
Russell Gibson
and the last sal which was less than four k I think they're trying to represent this as, oh, sell with us because you'll get better deals than on Fanatic's Collect.
00:55:52.53
Adz
Yeah.
00:56:01.01
Russell Gibson
I don't think that's the case at all.
00:56:01.06
Adz
Yeah, that's fair.
00:56:02.01
Russell Gibson
I think this is more about the timing of the purchase and the and the auction.
00:56:06.23
Adz
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:06.52
Russell Gibson
And so, you know, I think the real question for me is like, is this a good buy and you hold on to this? For the long term.
00:56:16.28
Adz
Hmm.
00:56:16.36
Russell Gibson
And probably that's where my head is at with Cade. It's like, I mean, look, if you had got this at $3,000 and held it for the long term, that's like, for me, that's where it's really at.
00:56:18.65
Adz
For Cade, for sure.
00:56:24.20
Russell Gibson
But, you know, if you need money, you need money, don't you? And if you just flipped it out for $21,000, that's quite delicious.
00:56:32.21
Adz
That's true. Yeah, that's massive.
00:56:32.99
Russell Gibson
Yep. Alonzo Ball is being traded to the Cavs. This caught me by surprise a little bit because it seemed to me like they've been holding on to him in Chicago now for years and now he's back healthy and they trade him.
00:56:48.44
Russell Gibson
ah The Bulls...
00:56:48.64
Adz
Maybe that's what they were waiting for though.
00:56:52.14
Russell Gibson
Yeah, maybe. The Bulls got back Isaac Okoro. I really like Okoro. I think he's going to fit in really well with Bulls. It gives them more size. It gives them more defensive versatility.
00:57:03.46
Russell Gibson
And I think a fit of Okoro and Josh Giddey is much better than Giddey and Lonzo Ball. So, you know, team building wise, that makes a lot more sense for the Bulls.
00:57:11.97
Adz
Fair.
00:57:15.65
Adz
Okay.
00:57:16.19
Russell Gibson
Now for the Cavaliers, this makes sense because Ty Jerome left the Cavaliers for the Memphis Grizzlies. He got paid, think $13 million dollars a year to go there.
00:57:27.65
Russell Gibson
And the next video we've got here is from at Underdog Fantasy and m NBA Recapped Pod. And they do this really good series about the salary caps of each team.
00:57:42.77
Adz
Yeah.
00:57:42.79
Russell Gibson
And what they're laying out in this video here, I'll just read it through for you really quickly. It's got the highest paid contracts at the top all the way down to the bottom. So Evan Mobley, Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, John Derry Hunter, Jared Allen, Max Struess, Isaac Okoros. Obviously, this is pre-trade graphics.
00:58:00.12
Adz
Yeah.
00:58:00.82
Russell Gibson
But what it shows is is Evan Mobley's contract is pushing them over the second apron. And so um where I'm going with this is
00:58:09.46
Adz
Okay.
00:58:11.25
Russell Gibson
they had to let Ty Jerome go and they needed to fill up that backup point guard position because of their cap situation. So I actually think they've got one more move in this because just like how Boston shared a whole bunch of salary and saved $250 million, dollars when you drop below the second apron or even the first apron, you're saving.
00:58:28.78
Adz
Yep.
00:58:33.29
Russell Gibson
It's not $1.
00:58:34.01
Adz
It's about to say, yeah.
00:58:34.05
Russell Gibson
It's like
00:58:35.23
Adz
Mm-mm.
00:58:35.51
Russell Gibson
It's like $5 per. And so that's how Boston saved $250 million. dollars It wasn't that they shed $250 million dollars of salary. They saved that in the penalties that they were getting paid. So i think for me, like Cleveland is a relatively small market.
00:58:51.39
Russell Gibson
Look, maybe they give this team one more year, but I don't see this team as being a true championship contender. And so why would you pay this much money for for a team? That's my personal opinion.
00:59:00.71
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:03.00
Russell Gibson
I don't know where you're at with the Cavs, but...
00:59:06.17
Adz
I think, I think, yeah, but ah I don't know. feel like the Cavs are the East version of the Thunder and they needed to roll it back. So I don't know.
00:59:17.02
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:59:17.14
Adz
I think blowing it up to an extent or blowing bits up for the sake of money might cost them what they've built.
00:59:25.07
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:59:25.74
Adz
In Cleveland. um To be fair, look, there's still rumors that LeBron's not happy in LA and he's going to demand a trade and want to go back to Cleveland. So we will take Mobley happily
00:59:38.19
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:59:39.10
Adz
um and something else for LeBron James.
00:59:43.80
Russell Gibson
I think you could easily build salary and a trade with that roster just because of how many pieces they've got and how much salary they've got to move.
00:59:50.62
Adz
I mean, Darius Garland and Jared Allen for LeBron James, I would i would also take very happily.
01:00:02.38
Russell Gibson
God, I hate you Lakers sometimes, honestly.
01:00:04.01
Adz
Yeah,
01:00:04.95
Russell Gibson
Like, if that actually happens, that will just drive me crazy. Yeah.
01:00:07.95
Adz
yeah I know most people will get driven crazy if the LeBron goes somewhere and it's because he signed a $50 million dollars deal and the Lakers just snaffled up some talent. Anyway.
01:00:20.50
Russell Gibson
Cole Anthony was traded and he's going to be bought out by the Grizzlies.
01:00:25.30
Adz
Yes.
01:00:26.19
Russell Gibson
He's going to sign with the Bucks. Not a lot of value and card related activity with Cole Anthony. He's very sort of like low level. And I think also too, he's not going to have a huge role with the Bucks, but You could maybe speculate on him.
01:00:41.25
Adz
Mm.
01:00:42.58
Russell Gibson
That for me is a little bit of a stay away.
01:00:44.75
Adz
Yep.
01:00:44.85
Russell Gibson
ah right, this Pokemon stabbing. Let's do this in two minutes max. at Outside of a GameStop, a fight broke out Saturday morning after a man allegedly cut in line buy Pokemon cards.
01:00:48.39
Adz
Two minutes max.
01:00:56.55
Russell Gibson
The altercation turned physical when the victim was struck in the head with a mason jar and was subsequently stabbed with a shard of glass. As of Saturday afternoon, the victim was in a stable condition.
01:01:09.06
Russell Gibson
We've heard this before at Targets, and that was one of the reasons why Targets got out of cards and they put it all online because of all the nonsense and harassing the staff and all the rest of it.
01:01:13.44
Adz
Cards.
01:01:17.49
Adz
Yeah.
01:01:20.88
Russell Gibson
I think if GameStop are going to be heavily getting into cards,
01:01:24.79
Adz
Don't cut in line or you're getting cut.
01:01:26.83
Russell Gibson
they need to do the same thing that
01:01:30.18
Adz
It's messed up.
01:01:30.53
Russell Gibson
all these other big retailers have done. They need to put it all online. Interestingly, I think, so e so the Australian equivalent of these EB games, you can go into shops and buy them, but also their pre-orders are all done online. They don't do it queuing up in the shop.
01:01:47.52
Russell Gibson
And I think that's a really, really sensible way to minimize this type of idiotic behavior that people go to.
01:01:56.37
Adz
go to Yeah, for sure.
01:01:58.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think we don't need to talk about that anymore, do we?
01:02:01.27
Adz
No, I just say it look, it's it's one of those things that does happen in the hobby. And it's like, just try and be safe. Don't mess with people at shop.
01:02:08.77
Russell Gibson
At least they were stabbed with a piece of glass and not a knife. Like for me, like the whole, no, like hear me out on that.
01:02:14.10
Adz
Yeah, I get I get I get you on that.
01:02:14.88
Russell Gibson
It's like, if you take a knife to a GameStop, you look in for trouble, you know?
01:02:15.70
Adz
Yeah.
01:02:20.80
Adz
Yeah. But yeah, it's this is America, right? Like the next we're going to hear about a shooting at a GameStop. So whatever.
01:02:29.27
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, last card of the day is going to be from our friends at Card Ladder. 1998 Flair. Showcase, Tim Duncan.
01:02:40.58
Russell Gibson
Hashtag 3M Row 1 Legacy Collection Masterpiece 1 of 1 7. This sold for $32,000.
01:02:47.82
Russell Gibson
this sold for thirty two thousand dollars I want to say only $32,000 just for the fact of how rare this card is.
01:02:54.94
Adz
It's Timmy D. Yeah, like
01:02:56.53
Russell Gibson
It's Tim Duncan, but I think you also need to face reality. Not everyone frosts over Tim Duncan the way that I do. Look, I love this a lot. I think that this is a really good long-term piece to put away.
01:03:11.81
Adz
Yeah.
01:03:12.12
Russell Gibson
And, you know, were talking earlier today about that Penny Hardaway flair card that is ultra rare and, you know, people just sort of
01:03:19.65
Adz
Hmm.
01:03:20.35
Russell Gibson
Not people don't know about, but it's a different sort of era of collecting. And I think it's so easy just look at the Cade Cunningham vertical flawless RPA and go, you know, that's an equivalent card. But are you actually better off putting your cash into a Tim Duncan one of one than the Cade Cunningham flawless RPA?
01:03:38.56
Russell Gibson
Like that's like to me is kind of a a bit of a fun conversation.
01:03:40.04
Adz
Oh yeah.
01:03:42.99
Adz
It's so,
01:03:46.20
Adz
ah don't, I just, I still don't know where the, where the needle is on these cards. Do you know what I mean?
01:03:54.94
Russell Gibson
Hall of Famer, ultra rare one of one, or speculating a whole bunch of cash on a vertical RPA.
01:04:00.57
Adz
guy Guys in year five probably has another 10 years in the league.
01:04:04.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:04:05.82
Adz
Cade could go either way. ah get it. The big fundamental has had a career and his is one of the greatest of all time.
01:04:13.08
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:04:14.22
Adz
Like in any top 10, top 20 list, this man's appearing. The power forward, if he's not mentioned in the first five, the people talking about that list have got issues. Do you know what i mean? Like he is one of the greats.
01:04:29.86
Adz
But there's also the the recency bias. There's the collector. Where is Cade's ceiling?
01:04:39.33
Russell Gibson
yeah
01:04:39.92
Adz
Is he on Mount Rushmore? Has he become one of the greatest? that's That's the joy of this game, I guess, as well.
01:04:46.10
Russell Gibson
I feel like the speculating game and the flip game is Cade, but I think the better card probably in the day is his card.
01:04:49.80
Adz
Yep.
01:04:52.21
Russell Gibson
Do you know what i mean? Like, yeah.
01:04:53.31
Adz
Yeah, for sure. ah look And i and i I love this Tim Duncan card. i I don't know.
01:04:57.79
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:04:58.93
Adz
I would love to own an RPA. If it was an RPA Tim Duncan versus a Kate, it's a no question, right?
01:05:03.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.
01:05:06.01
Adz
But there is no RPA for Timmy D.
01:05:10.37
Russell Gibson
No. Thank you, Adam.
01:05:14.47
Adz
Thank you. It's good to be back.
01:05:15.36
Russell Gibson
okay Thank you to all of our listeners in USA, Canada, UK, Philippines, Australia, and New Zealand.
01:05:20.05
Adz
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01:05:25.75
Russell Gibson
Yep. Central Coast Radio.
01:05:28.91
Adz
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01:05:31.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:05:32.67
Adz
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01:05:34.61
Russell Gibson
Yep.
01:05:38.41
Adz
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01:05:45.35
Russell Gibson
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01:05:46.50
Adz
Yeah. if we If you rate us five stars, then it just sort of puts it as a suggestion to other people to listen to, to podcasts of this nature.
01:05:56.04
Adz
I mean, I think we've got three or four of them at the moment. don't know. I actually haven't checked. I don't know how many there are. I think there were 20 last time I checked or 15. That's five stars. Probably plenty that are not five stars. Let's be fair.
01:06:07.60
Russell Gibson
and not I don't think it's that bad. ah Anyway, guys, thank you so much. We'll catch you next week.
01:06:13.55
Adz
We'll see you next week.
01:06:16.93
Adz
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