Episode 228: Offseason Targets, Marcus Morris, and Gilbert Arenas’ Forgotten Cards

 In this week’s You Can’t Comp This, Russell and Adz hit the offseason hard:

– Who are the smart hobby buys while the NBA sleeps?
 – Marcus Morris makes the case for being hobby-relevant – well, maybe.
 – Gilbert Arenas: forgotten superstar, forgotten cardboard?
 – Why the current lull might be your best opportunity to pick winners.
 – Plus: hobby stories, speculation strategies, and that one time Arenas forgot the rules... and the law.

Whether you're prospecting for next season or just in it for the nostalgia, this ep’s got something for every collector.

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00:00:00.87
Adz
what could go wrong

00:00:13.81
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 228 the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We host Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:26.34
Adz
Russell, how are you?

00:00:28.80
Russell Gibson
Good, mate.

00:00:28.97
Adz
we're we're We're early.

00:00:29.24
Russell Gibson
How are you today?

00:00:30.25
Adz
we're We're early. It's, it's I'm good. I'm good. It's just, it's a lot earlier than Sunday. For us, we're recording a little bit early.

00:00:37.11
Russell Gibson
It does feel compressed scheduled, absolutely, but it is for a good cause.

00:00:39.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:00:41.62
Russell Gibson
got a work annual dinner this weekend, so yeah.

00:00:45.29
Adz
Nice. That'll be nice. Reason. Yeah. To, to, yeah.

00:00:49.60
Russell Gibson
Take the peeps out for some food. So it's always good.

00:00:52.31
Adz
Oh, look, it's always good to, to, to, to record a bit early and, keep our YouTube listeners and and viewers on their toes.

00:00:59.94
Russell Gibson
That's right.

00:01:00.94
Adz
Make sure they get their notification.

00:01:00.98
Russell Gibson
Without warning.

00:01:02.79
Adz
If they've clicked the bell, they get the the notification to let to to alert them when we go live and sneak an episode in early during the week like this.

00:01:05.83
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:01:11.51
Russell Gibson
That's it. So hello everyone at home. Hope you're well. Hello to our friends at Central Coast Radio. And I think we should just really quickly run down what we're going to talk about this week.

00:01:22.79
Russell Gibson
Basically, we're going to have a bit of fun laughing at Gilbert Arenas and Marcus Morris. um Then we're going to talk a lot about off-season movements. And I think that's going to probably take about half of today's show.

00:01:35.31
Russell Gibson
Then just at the end of the show, we've got the Jordan-Kobe Jewel logo one-of-one.

00:01:35.50
Adz
Hmm.

00:01:40.60
Adz
good to finish the show.

00:01:41.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah, some curry cards. We've got another Kobe Kaboom. We've got an Anthony Edwards. We've also got a story about Nicole Jokic and his agent with LeBron James and his agent. And we're going to guess maybe why those guys would be breaking bread together.

00:01:58.23
Adz
Talking about Luca, the team up.

00:02:00.53
Russell Gibson
Maybe.

00:02:01.41
Adz
Hmm. Hmm.

00:02:03.65
Russell Gibson
Maybe. I hope not.

00:02:07.66
Adz
I hope so.

00:02:08.78
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:02:09.08
Adz
um But before that, let's let's let's let's get on to, I suppose, let's get to the beginning of the show.

00:02:15.72
Russell Gibson
thing We talk about Gilbert Arenas first, just because I think he's the bigger and NBA personality at the moment and probably the better NBA player too at the end of the day.

00:02:24.07
Adz
That's fair.

00:02:25.19
Russell Gibson
As per ESPN, according to the indictment, Arenas rented out his Encino house while one of his associates staged the mansion for the poker games, recruited co-conspirators to host and collected rent from the co-conspirators on Arenas' behalf.

00:02:27.30
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:02:42.83
Russell Gibson
If convicted, Arenas and the other defendants could face up to five years in federal prison for each count. So i think we need to also remind people, if you haven't seen the Netflix documentary about Gilbert Arenas, you absolutely should watch it.

00:03:02.88
Russell Gibson
And I feel like it really gives you really good insight into his personality and the way that he looks at life and perhaps... um The way he doesn't respect authority and follow like to follow the rules, I think that's maybe the the safest, the most polite way to say it.

00:03:21.58
Adz
that's That's a good, that's a probably a way to to explain Gilbert Arenas.

00:03:25.19
Russell Gibson
Gilbert doesn't give many Fs, does he? That's another way of saying it.

00:03:27.58
Adz
No, no, no.

00:03:28.57
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:03:29.06
Adz
I mean, and and it's not like the, um, the I mean, illegal poker games got the amount of NBA players on documentaries that that play cards in between while they're well they're like going between cities and stuff is is quite well known.

00:03:44.38
Adz
mean, I do believe Jordan was was also a prolific card player.

00:03:44.94
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:03:50.41
Adz
Not that he's got illegal poker tournaments, but it's a done thing um playing cards amongst players.

00:03:57.41
Russell Gibson
Well, if we're going down conspiracy theories at this point, and now you've mentioned Jordan, I didn't just for the record. I didn't. um There was some like talk that the reason why he took that year off is because he was told to take a year off, get your gambling debts under control and then come back.

00:04:13.86
Russell Gibson
So like, Whether that's true or not, I believe it to be true.

00:04:18.07
Adz
What could have been advice?

00:04:19.14
Russell Gibson
I love the conspiracy, so that's fine. Yeah. Yeah.

00:04:22.36
Adz
Yep. Very interesting.

00:04:24.48
Russell Gibson
So he does have a previous criminal conviction, two years probation. He got 30 days in a halfway house and he also did 400 hours of community service and a $5,000 fine.

00:04:35.40
Russell Gibson
And that was related to his gun charges when he was putting them onto the team plane and carrying them around between city to city when he was an NBA player.

00:04:37.81
Adz
Hmm.

00:04:43.70
Russell Gibson
Like just like, Just crazy, crazy stuff.

00:04:46.43
Adz
it wasn' ah He wasn't a mentor for Ja Morant, was he?

00:04:51.66
Russell Gibson
Maybe.

00:04:51.89
Adz
Carrying guns from city to city. It's a different world. it has It's just a different world. Well,

00:04:58.81
Russell Gibson
Like, if we're speculating here, I actually wonder if he will go to prison for this. Like, with his previous criminal record.

00:05:08.11
Adz
but they're not they're not they're not um petty charges that he's on. Like he's, yeah, kind of. oh

00:05:18.21
Russell Gibson
I'm guessing he goes to prison. That would be my prediction, to be honest. Yeah. All right. We have to look at some Gilbert Arenas cards because this is the fun of it. Like, yes, we can we can laugh at Gilbert and then all the rest of it.

00:05:30.87
Adz
right. This is the challenge.

00:05:31.73
Russell Gibson
Let's see if we can find an autograph. I found a rookie autograph, on-card autograph, an upper deck SP Authentic FX that sold for $17.50 USD.

00:05:43.66
Russell Gibson
seventeen fifty u s d That's actually maybe a little bit less than what I was expecting. I actually thought he'd have a bit more of that sort of <unk> cult following.

00:05:53.29
Adz
Okay.

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Russell Gibson
2001 Topps Chrome Rookie Refractor PSA 9. That sold for $64 USD. That's actually a really nice looking card.

00:06:03.23
Adz
okay

00:06:04.61
Russell Gibson
And then the third and final card we'll talk about. We don't want to give Gilbert too much extra time. A Fleer... Jersey Authentics number to 50 with the autograph on it. That's sold for $23.99 USD. so look, he's, yeah, that's, I actually wonder if like, he's also maybe a good reminder for people.

00:06:26.84
Russell Gibson
Because imagine the hype around that guy when he first came into the league, that would have been like, particularly when he exploded.

00:06:31.99
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. there's There is a right the rise and fall of ah of an NBA player, I guess, is the...

00:06:35.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:06:39.35
Adz
Yeah, for sure.

00:06:40.66
Russell Gibson
There's no card ladder all-time stats available for him, but I would actually like to see if he like did rise and fall like Jordan Poole did. You know? I wonder if he was a Jordan Poole.

00:06:49.16
Adz
and It's never good to be mentioned in the in the same vein as Jordan Poole. That's all I can say about that.

00:06:53.81
Russell Gibson
Absolutely not. All right, let's get on to the next one because this is the one I'm probably...

00:06:56.83
Adz
Oh. This is the this is the one that... that that creates the that more belly laughs, I guess.

00:07:04.82
Russell Gibson
So the headline of this was that NBA star Marcus Morse hits the court in handcuffs and his judge denies bond. So that happens. So then you start to read a little bit more about it. It's basically to do with ah markers that he took, or and another word for marker is a loan at a casino. And he took two loans of approximately $100,000 each.

00:07:25.97
Adz
Okay.

00:07:26.32
Russell Gibson
um then the check bounced that he tried to pay for it for. Then they caught up with him at the airport, ah arrested him in front of his family and dragged him off. So then his brother, his twin brother.

00:07:37.28
Adz
I was going to say, is this a prank on his brother? And then his brother got arrested at the, anyway, sorry.

00:07:42.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I mean, that would be kind of funny in a way, wouldn't it?

00:07:42.74
Adz
Yeah. Imagine pranking your brother by getting the two lines ago.

00:07:45.16
Russell Gibson
um

00:07:46.99
Adz
no it was Marquise, not me.

00:07:47.23
Russell Gibson
Like which one, which one?

00:07:49.14
Adz
Yeah. yeah

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Russell Gibson
So I always feel like, If you're going through a court case, you shouldn't pass comment on it in a public domain. So this is what his twin brother says.

00:08:00.87
Adz
That sounds simple.

00:08:00.93
Russell Gibson
The wording is crazy. Damn, for that amount of money, they'll embarrass you in the airport with your family. So if you read like the legal jargon, it says for $1,200. But actually, if you read it more closely, it says for greater than $1,000.

00:08:15.24
Russell Gibson
So that's what the like the check bouncing bid is. that That's what he's referring to there.

00:08:18.16
Adz
Yeah.

00:08:20.06
Russell Gibson
They got y'all really thinking bro did some fraud shit. They could have come to the crib for all that. Well, they kind of did write you letters and you may or may or not have replied to them. So come on.

00:08:31.84
Russell Gibson
Uh, when you all hear the real story on this shit, man, all I can say is lesson learned. Bro will tell y'all tomorrow. This weird shit gave me a headache. Well, he can't tell you cause he's still locked up. They didn't give him bond.

00:08:43.24
Russell Gibson
Um, can't stop with nothing. This is like for me, like epic sort of high comedy. um I'm actually surprised this hasn't been taken down already. Like, why didn't he delete this?

00:08:56.06
Russell Gibson
90,000 views, 400 likes, 89 retweets.

00:08:59.68
Adz
it's it's It's in there. it's It's the world we live in now.

00:09:04.54
Russell Gibson
um The NBA Centel commented on this too. Marcus Morris Sr. has been robbing and NBA teams of millions of dollars a year, now finally facing charges of fraud.

00:09:19.08
Adz
Oh, goodness gracious.

00:09:21.07
Russell Gibson
All right, just a reminder, he has previous convictions of, um sorry, I can't say convictions, a battery charge in 2012, which he went into a diversion program for, and it's aggravated assault charge, which he was acquitted of in 2015.

00:09:34.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:39.22
Russell Gibson
That was with his brother.

00:09:40.68
Adz
yeah

00:09:41.04
Russell Gibson
So, um yeah, I don't know how that will affect him in court at the moment. I'm actually a little bit surprised that he couldn't or didn't have the opportunity just to pay the money back and then get bonded out. Like that to me is like a little bit, I don't quite understand that legal process. I would have thought that would have been better for everybody, like cheaper for the legal system, better for him because he's not spending time in prison unless they're actually intending to get the money out of him and also convict him. That's what I'm sort of currently like thinking at the moment.

00:10:16.73
Russell Gibson
Pretty keen to like see where this ends up.

00:10:18.37
Adz
I'd like to see where this with where this goes. I also wanted to to know, like, why? Why didn't Marquise, rather than tweeting, come and step in for your brother and, like, I don't know, give him a chop out while he's in court.

00:10:31.08
Adz
Let him run free.

00:10:32.50
Russell Gibson
No idea.

00:10:32.75
Adz
They could have plotted this better if they're identical twins and you can't tell them apart.

00:10:39.19
Russell Gibson
That is kind of funny, isn't it? Yeah.

00:10:41.24
Adz
He's like, while he's in jail, not being allowed on bond, Markeith goes out trying to be Marcus and gets another loan out.

00:10:50.90
Russell Gibson
Oh man, some of the comps on these cards is not great. So a 2012-13 Threads rookie autograph for $3 USD. An SGC 10 White Sparkle sold for $6.50. I don't reckon even on the cheapest...

00:11:08.00
Russell Gibson
Grading fee on SGC, would you have got your money back? And that's an SGC 10 of all things too. So RIP to that person who sent that in. And then the third one, this is probably the last one we'll do.

00:11:18.40
Adz
Thank you.

00:11:21.41
Russell Gibson
encased materials, numbered to 25, sold for 10 USD. I'm not touching any of this stuff. I think the guy's an absolute goose. All that stuff that happened with him and Jokic when they had that run in and he like...

00:11:34.89
Russell Gibson
Like they're the worst like type of fake tough guys in the league. I actually reckon they they give a tough guys a really bad name. I was trying to think about this actually, before I came onto the show, like I feel like the old school tough guys, like Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley would just be disappointed with this guy.

00:11:51.86
Russell Gibson
Just like shaking their heads. Like, like what are you doing? You know, get your act together.

00:11:55.13
Adz
It's yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty poor. Yeah.

00:11:57.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:11:59.01
Adz
Agreed. Agreed.

00:12:00.34
Russell Gibson
All right. Final thoughts on this before we um start beating a dead horse here.

00:12:03.98
Adz
um Look, it's, it's sad when basketball, like you realize they're real people too, right?

00:12:10.13
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:12:11.51
Adz
but It's just like, but it's like this kind of behavior and they've been trained while they were in the NBA about the public spotlight, about what to do, what not to do.

00:12:11.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:12:20.05
Adz
And,

00:12:20.13
Russell Gibson
Money management.

00:12:21.44
Adz
Yeah, all of this.

00:12:22.07
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:12:22.94
Adz
and And yet they they still come out and obviously they they've probably have a few lessons in in the way they communicate on social media. Y'all.

00:12:37.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:12:37.47
Adz
What was it? Yep, this shit's gonna not going anyway. It's about to heat up, I'm sure.

00:12:44.68
Russell Gibson
Anyway, all right, let's move on.

00:12:47.17
Adz
Let's.

00:12:47.97
Russell Gibson
I've had my fun.

00:12:49.45
Adz
It was good.

00:12:51.73
Russell Gibson
All right, this next one is about off-season movements and basically just us talking about who should we be looking at after all the trades and et cetera that's gone down this off-season.

00:13:01.92
Russell Gibson
So we put up a Instagram post.

00:13:02.22
Adz
hu Okay.

00:13:04.76
Russell Gibson
We put up a Facebook post. Oh, I didn't add everyone on this one, so we've got a few more comments on it. why don't we organize this by all comments and we'll start at the top with James Gregory and Johnny Furphy.

00:13:17.16
Adz
I'll go into the Facebook one.

00:13:23.10
Russell Gibson
I actually think he's a good one to start with and a good one to chase. so I think for me, Johnny Furphy is a buy at the moment. We've talked about Johnny Furphy in the last couple of weeks with that huge dunk that he did in the preseason and the summer leagues.

00:13:37.47
Adz
Mm-hmm. That classic poster.

00:13:40.65
Russell Gibson
It actually needs to be on a on a card, honestly.

00:13:43.43
Adz
It's got to be on something. And it's ah there was a really cool um anime suggestion put forward in one of the on one of the main pages. You know, those the the prism, how they've got the...

00:13:55.45
Adz
the Yeah.

00:13:55.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah, that looked good.

00:13:57.95
Adz
Yeah. I think that would be cool. I think, yeah, johnny Johnny Furphy's going to come into some relevance, especially with the movements. Yeah. in, in, uh, in Indiana.

00:14:09.81
Russell Gibson
His stuff's not dirt cheap though. So this is actually surprising me a little bit. So this is the Mosaic Spectrus, which I'm assuming is a ripoff of Tetris.

00:14:19.45
Adz
Hmm.

00:14:22.00
Adz
Probably.

00:14:22.91
Russell Gibson
Photal numbered to 10. it's It's not even gold. It's yellow, black, and blue. um That's sold for 73 USD. And look, that's a really aesthetically pleasing card.

00:14:32.89
Adz
Hmm.

00:14:36.04
Russell Gibson
But for me, like Furfy is a a tier two or tier three prospect. what mean? Like he's realistically probably going to top out as like a ah bench player that lasts in the NBA eight to 10 years.

00:14:43.34
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:49.58
Russell Gibson
I think that would be his, you know, his high point. Maybe what I'm missing here is the Australian collectability because then you go down to the next card, a select silver patch autograph, which of course is going to be a sticker autograph and non game worn game use material.

00:14:57.00
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:04.05
Russell Gibson
That's sold for 20 USD. Like I think for a prospect of his caliber,

00:15:05.80
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:09.19
Russell Gibson
That's actually a lot, you know.

00:15:11.08
Adz
yeah

00:15:11.34
Russell Gibson
um Penny Noir, Johnny Furphy, Rookie Patch Auto, colored to 99. That sold for 71 USD. I would probably rather the Noir than the Mosaic, but that's just me.

00:15:24.73
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:15:24.81
Russell Gibson
um ah I prefer a nice Noir Patch and Autograph than a Mosaic, you know, non-autographed card. Is there anything on there that really takes your eye that you'd be looking to pick up?

00:15:35.28
Adz
Not really. um Yeah, the tier twos, worry a little bit with those kind of players just because there is a tendency in in today's um market for people to pay future pricing.

00:15:52.91
Adz
And I think at the at the secondary do you, don't you kind of player, um there's just too much risk involved and you tend to end up paying overs.

00:16:03.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah, i mean, even if we go back and comp this to Gilbert Arenas, like Gilbert had an amazing NBA career.

00:16:10.78
Adz
but it But it's like, am I going to be looking to spend that 20 or 30 bucks on someone that I think is, is not being rated at the moment and has taken that dip in the previous draft class that could take a step up.

00:16:22.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:26.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:26.98
Adz
Like, i don't't I don't know where, because I don't think if if he doesn't break out, that $20 investment is a $10 card.

00:16:35.60
Russell Gibson
Oh, for sure.

00:16:36.73
Adz
So that, and that's, I just don't like paying overs on stuff like that.

00:16:39.32
Russell Gibson
I think you have a little bit of insurance though with him being an Aussie. I think there'll always be that sort of Aussie.

00:16:44.40
Adz
Of course. Oh, movability locally in our market in Australia for sure.

00:16:47.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:49.26
Adz
um there there is a

00:16:49.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:51.70
Adz
If it's an international player that has a local market, you're probably, you you can build yourself a buffer with the ability for the card to to to um sort of hold some value.

00:16:54.71
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:58.59
Russell Gibson
Definitely.

00:17:03.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah. um I think we should go to a break because it's that time already.

00:17:09.61
Adz
Then we can talk about another Aussie.

00:17:11.62
Russell Gibson
Absolutely. Really quickly as we're going out to the break, Mr. Man Cave scam update. There's no new articles that I can find in the last seven days. So basically we've covered them on last week's show.

00:17:23.04
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:17:23.86
Russell Gibson
um But that is still a very good segue as we go into our first advertisement, which is Fast Break Trading Cards. Go to fastbreaktradingcards.com. There you will find a huge range of Topps, Fanatics, official partner memorabilia. Anything that you buy from the lads there comes direct from the source. You've got no problems at all purchasing from that, ending up in a Mr. Man Cave situation.

00:17:47.13
Russell Gibson
Sports training cards, tops, basketball, football, baseball, soccer, Formula One, tennis, UFC, WWE. Of course, all the other extra stuff too. Grading, card protection, entertainment, TCG. Today, I think what we'll do is we'll have a look at basketball because it's been a minute since we've had a look at it.

00:18:03.47
Russell Gibson
2024.

00:18:03.96
Adz
Well, since we're talking about movements and stuff, have we got anything from that 2022 or 2023 draft class? Well, 23-24 Wemby, isn't it?

00:18:10.67
Russell Gibson
I will find something for you. 2024 Panini Prism Monopoly WNBA Basketball Blaster Box Black for $95.

00:18:21.16
Russell Gibson
Look, as much as I love WNBA, umm very um I'm very worried about that type of stuff. What year do you want at? 2023-2024?

00:18:30.30
Adz
well twenty three twenty four is wembby isn't it

00:18:33.30
Russell Gibson
So 24, 25, we've got a Panini Prism basketball mega box that has the green ice prisms, $150 in that. That'll be a really fun rip with your mates, maybe at over a dinner or some drinks or something like that.

00:18:44.42
Adz
Oh, that's a good idea. That's a good idea.

00:18:46.05
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:18:46.66
Adz
ah reckon i reckon that'd be great. So a dinner for four, you'd rip that.

00:18:50.14
Russell Gibson
Maybe next Wednesday. Yeah.

00:18:51.40
Adz
That's a good idea. i like that.

00:18:52.55
Russell Gibson
Great idea.

00:18:53.16
Adz
I like that.

00:18:53.23
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:18:53.52
Adz
Maybe we should try that out.

00:18:55.34
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:18:57.55
Russell Gibson
19.20. is a bit of an old school one. Panini Donruss Choice Hobby Box for $7.50. Yeah, some of that old stuff really popped, didn't it? 24.25 Panini Prism Basketball Retail Box for $240.

00:19:12.86
Russell Gibson
As always, lads, thank you so much for your ongoing support. We very much appreciate it.

00:19:29.12
Russell Gibson
And we are back for part two of today's show. And we're going to continue our conversation around the off-season movements.

00:19:36.92
Adz
certainly are.

00:19:38.30
Russell Gibson
And you mentioned an Australian player. Who did you want to talk about next?

00:19:41.46
Adz
Oh, look, I was just going through the the comments in general and I recall saying the name. Oh, well, it is. There we go. We've got some Al Cain's friend of the show, still Scoot Henderson and Giddy.

00:19:54.90
Russell Gibson
Yep. Yep.

00:20:01.03
Adz
Giddy's the one I want to talk about because Scoot's not a correct, correct, correct,

00:20:01.97
Russell Gibson
I was just about to jump in then. I'm glad I held my piece for second. I was like, I don't remember Scoot Henderson being Aussie.

00:20:09.54
Adz
imagine the rumors going around? Scoot Henderson but outed as an Australian. What? No, Josh Giddey.

00:20:17.26
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:20:17.98
Adz
Josh Giddey's the one I was.

00:20:18.46
Russell Gibson
Let's go with your boy, Josh Giddey. He last sold for 225 USD. If you have been following this at home, that's a massive uptick. And actually, if we take out the last two sales, because the last sale was the sale before that, sorry, the sale before

00:20:34.83
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:20:40.97
Russell Gibson
two hundred and twenty five was actually seventy five And then the one in the middle, which I think is the sale we should use is 117. And that's sort of where he's been floating around. And he's definitely on an uptick because at one point he was all the way down to $25. So people that bought up at $25, congratulations.

00:21:01.76
Russell Gibson
You've done very, very well for yourself. I think Giddy's a pretty safe buy at the moment. Look, I'm going to assume that that 220 sale is probably going to hold.

00:21:12.83
Russell Gibson
And it's going to come back around to that sort of $110, $120 mark. At that point, I think that's very, very good purchase because, yes, he's currently in a holding pattern with the Bulls, but they'll they'll come to some sort of agreement in a matter of time. I've got no problems with that at all.

00:21:30.58
Adz
I think, um I don't know, Giddy's always been a bit of a roller coaster. I love the, obviously there's the Aussie factor, um which which gives him that little bit of extra hobby love and stability and demand.

00:21:42.77
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:21:45.78
Adz
I guess it's the supply demand industry is what this hobby is. So if there are Aussies out there that want his cards, that's definitely a positive. Yeah.

00:21:55.17
Russell Gibson
I think he got slaughtered after he got traded from OKC to the Bulls, but you can also see here now he's definitely making a bit of a rally back.

00:21:59.03
Adz
Yep.

00:22:02.35
Adz
Yeah, a bit of resurgence.

00:22:02.97
Russell Gibson
and And again, depending on when you bought him, um Yeah, I actually think even now, this is not a terrible purchase. The population on this is really low, 154.

00:22:15.60
Russell Gibson
And we're going to talk about some cards later on the show that have got some, you know, just horrific pop count.

00:22:15.63
Adz
Okay.

00:22:19.82
Russell Gibson
So actually think that's in today's standards, that's quite a, I'm using air quotes now, that's quite a rare card.

00:22:19.88
Adz
Pop counts. Yeah. Yep.

00:22:28.59
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:22:29.80
Adz
if you So you reckon you reckon if you get him sub 150, it's a good buy?

00:22:35.10
Russell Gibson
I think he'll be fine. I think that card could easily go to 200, 250. Yeah.

00:22:39.06
Adz
Yep.

00:22:39.70
Russell Gibson
um yeah I'm assuming that that 225 is a dodgy sale and that will either come back down again or it'll be removed in the next couple of weeks.

00:22:48.07
Adz
Yes.

00:22:48.43
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:22:48.95
Adz
Yes.

00:22:49.91
Russell Gibson
So the other one to talk about is Scoot Henderson.

00:22:50.15
Adz
Any other?

00:22:51.63
Russell Gibson
I think we should definitely talk about Scoot because when he came out of the draft, there was definitely a lot of hype around him.

00:22:52.31
Adz
Yep.

00:22:58.70
Russell Gibson
i think I was worried about him just for the fact that to the team that he went to. I think the other thing I was a little bit worried about too was like, for me, he's not a high skill guy.

00:23:13.47
Russell Gibson
He's very much about athleticism. And I sort of worry about those guys a little bit in that, you know, if they don't come in and improve, they can get left behind quite quickly and or they lose a little bit of their athleticism or they get injured, you know, or any of that com combination.

00:23:24.69
Adz
Yeah.

00:23:29.41
Russell Gibson
So i I didn't go heavy into him.

00:23:30.38
Adz
Yep.

00:23:34.24
Russell Gibson
However, I think we can say our friend of the pod, Al, is a huge Scoot fan. So there's definitely Scoot fans out there.

00:23:41.88
Adz
Yep.

00:23:43.28
Russell Gibson
He's not on card ladder for his regular silver PSA 10, but his Prismania is on there. So we can talk about the Prismania.

00:23:51.28
Adz
That's a, that's a pretty cool card.

00:23:51.83
Russell Gibson
It's a fantastic card.

00:23:53.25
Adz
Not gonna lie. It's

00:23:55.93
Russell Gibson
And I've also found his last sold for a silver PSA 10. That sold for 89 USD. So comping that with Giddy, that's still what?

00:24:00.85
Adz
okay.

00:24:05.28
Russell Gibson
50% cheaper, even if you're marking Giddies down a little bit.

00:24:08.16
Adz
Like that's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Take that sale out. and He's still cheaper than giddy.

00:24:14.39
Russell Gibson
a blue Prism to $199. one ninety nine That's sold for $140 USD. Look,

00:24:20.74
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:22.61
Russell Gibson
I don't think these prices are outrageous, but at the same time too, this doesn't make me want to deep dive into buying Scoot. I do think though that The secondary market at the moment is it quite juicy, isn't it? Like trying to go into a break and get a silver that's in good condition, send it off to PSA and get it home.

00:24:42.51
Russell Gibson
You try doing that for 89 USD. I think that would be almost damn impossible.

00:24:46.99
Adz
Tricky.

00:24:51.82
Russell Gibson
Honestly.

00:24:52.57
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. and then that's And that's something to consider, isn't it? It's it's the off-season. There are bargains about, especially for players that aren't on people's radars.

00:25:02.91
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:25:03.28
Adz
So obviously Scoot's on Al's radar, but he might not be a collector's favorite right now.

00:25:10.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:25:11.60
Adz
um New draft class, some new shinies in town. does take the focus off. um How do you think Scoot is impacted by Lillard coming back to Portland?

00:25:23.20
Russell Gibson
So for the next 12 months, it's going to be zero impact at all because Lilith's going to be out.

00:25:26.11
Adz
Of course. Yep. What if he's sidelining and and mentoring?

00:25:30.97
Russell Gibson
I hope... that he's going to be there in a mentoring role and not in a starting role. Because I think if that is the case, that will really affect his trajectory.

00:25:42.59
Russell Gibson
And I would also think too, it's got, it would have a bit of a role and say like shade and sharp.

00:25:42.92
Adz
Okay.

00:25:47.18
Adz
Yeah, exactly. yeah

00:25:48.86
Russell Gibson
But I will say this. I really think if we're going to talk about the blazers just for a second, i think they've done a really good job of putting together a very young core, but also has really good veteran support.

00:26:03.35
Russell Gibson
So getting Drew Holiday, i think that's a really, like that's a big, yeah, that's a really, really good get for them.

00:26:07.22
Adz
They've got a lot of good pieces. Yeah.

00:26:11.57
Russell Gibson
I can't, you know, say that enough. I think Danny Ujever is still, you know, really young. I think he's going to be really good in that sort of, you know, young sense. And then the old guy, that forward spot is Jeremy Grant to back them up. So again, they've sort of got that old and the young.

00:26:26.62
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:27.30
Russell Gibson
um Then looking through the rest of the roster, they've got Chris Murray. They've got Shaden Sharpe, which we already spoke about. And then like Theibel's sort of at that point now where he's not really a young guy anymore, is he he?

00:26:37.45
Russell Gibson
Like he's like a bit of veteran.

00:26:38.21
Adz
more, he's, he's getting that sort of that peak of his career veteran status.

00:26:38.73
Russell Gibson
like

00:26:42.42
Adz
Like he's,

00:26:44.49
Russell Gibson
Actually, when you look at the roster, this yeah, they've got some young kids, but they've really thinned out the amount of youth they've got on that team, haven't they?

00:26:52.82
Adz
they're they're They're a lot more mature than you you expect.

00:26:55.18
Russell Gibson
Yeah, absolutely.

00:26:56.53
Adz
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, they've made some moves.

00:26:58.54
Russell Gibson
I'm a bit confused why they gave up Anthony Simon. So like, I don't know if that to me was like, and unless they've just decided he's not, but well, obviously they decided.

00:27:01.95
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:07.43
Adz
I just can't bite on it. They just can't bite on it.

00:27:08.50
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right. He wasn't going to be part of their future.

00:27:09.15
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:10.62
Russell Gibson
it's That's done, isn't it?

00:27:11.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:27:13.12
Russell Gibson
um Right, we should really talk about, though, the Scoot Henderson Prismania because that is a genuine SSP. And this card is on card ladder. Population on this is five. It sold for 535. I kind of get why this card didn't go for higher because of the profile of the player and also the risk involved. I get that 100%. But actually, i wonder if something like this is, can you actually put them in the same sentence as Kaboom?

00:27:42.92
Adz
i'm not I'm not sure and I'm undecided on it, but I think an argument can be made that that is in that vein of type of card.

00:27:42.92
Russell Gibson
These are actually,

00:27:49.88
Russell Gibson
well, and the reason I say that is because like, I think Kabooms now actually, they're still case hits, but they're a lot more common and they're making a lot more of them.

00:27:52.51
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:28:03.59
Adz
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

00:28:04.27
Russell Gibson
So where something like that, which is a genuine, genuine, you know, SSP slash case hit, like,

00:28:08.27
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:28:12.84
Russell Gibson
that I think that really does get my... Like, if you're looking for a rare card or a low-printed card, as much as I sort of am pained to say this, like, ah you should you actually be looking at the Prismania instead of a Kaboom?

00:28:18.31
Adz
Yep.

00:28:27.14
Adz
Is it something you put on the radar to have a look for?

00:28:29.42
Russell Gibson
Oh, absolutely.

00:28:29.66
Adz
So if it's something if you see, yeah.

00:28:32.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:28:32.65
Adz
Definitely, I like the look of the card. I like the, um I think the animation is cool.

00:28:34.83
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:28:37.93
Adz
I like the the big head, like bobblehead style that they've got.

00:28:42.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:28:43.92
Adz
Almost like a a pop vinyl feel about it.

00:28:48.07
Russell Gibson
It's very, like for me, I sort of, I would put that in the same, that's also why I use the Kaboom reference because it's like, yeah, it's still that same sort of.

00:28:53.07
Adz
It's that animated. Yeah, yeah, for sure. On the on the shiny background. There's Prism's version, so they've got a nice silver background, but yeah. Yeah, i like it.

00:29:04.24
Russell Gibson
So I'm having a little bit of trouble here finding some stats on the.

00:29:11.15
Russell Gibson
So I'm looking, I chose Steph Curry just because it's easier. I knew there'd be a few numbers on this.

00:29:16.01
Adz
Yeah.

00:29:16.45
Russell Gibson
So this is the 2019 Crown Royale.

00:29:19.39
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:29:19.98
Russell Gibson
There's 22 PSA 9s. There's 20 BGS 9.5s. It's unknown how many ROAs there are, but there's a few sales on here.

00:29:31.33
Russell Gibson
So, okay, let's just disregard that last bit. But there's at least eight times more of these cards.

00:29:38.53
Adz
Yeah, there's a lot.

00:29:39.36
Russell Gibson
And i I won't compare the price on these just for the fact of like, it's Steph Curry. That's like that's stupid compare it to Scoot.

00:29:43.77
Adz
and

00:29:44.89
Russell Gibson
But do you know what I'm trying to like, what I'm trying to do here.

00:29:46.33
Adz
I know you see you're you're painting the population report, but it's it's it's actually painting a pretty interesting picture given given that there are, you're right, more kabooms.

00:29:47.09
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:29:51.97
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

00:29:55.66
Russell Gibson
Maybe we need a timeless moment about Prismanias.

00:29:58.83
Adz
Prismania. a

00:30:00.28
Russell Gibson
Do you know who would be good to talk about that is Ryan.

00:30:03.76
Adz
Yeah, you've probably got a long list for Ryan.

00:30:04.38
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:30:05.50
Adz
We probably need to reach out and have a chat.

00:30:07.56
Russell Gibson
Come on, Ryan. All right. ah Next is David Ralph with Azur Thompson. And I think this is actually a really good one to talk about because the Houston Rockets, I think, are absolutely getting prepared for a massive run.

00:30:22.81
Russell Gibson
Getting Kevin Durant is just huge for that team. And i think the Rockets last year were just a fantastic team. like Honestly, they were just a really, really good team to watch last year.

00:30:32.76
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:35.64
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:36.56
Russell Gibson
And I actually feel like maybe this year they're going to be my paces because I'm definitely not watching the paces this year.

00:30:41.09
Adz
Yeah, maybe.

00:30:44.35
Adz
yeah maybe

00:30:47.30
Russell Gibson
Oh, thank the card ladder gods. Azir Thompson is on card ladder with a Prismania no less. I feel like this is going to be a Prismania night. ah PSA 10, population three, last sold for $455.

00:31:05.09
Russell Gibson
Oh, this is interesting. The PSA 9 last sold very recently for $1,450. So probably what we should do is look at the sale date. Yeah. so the PSA 10 sold quite a long time ago. So if the PSA 9 just sold recently and it sold for basically four times as much, whoever bought that PSA 10 at $455

00:31:26.01
Russell Gibson
done themselves quite a nice little deed there.

00:31:31.22
Adz
Yeesh.

00:31:34.42
Adz
It's good.

00:31:34.45
Russell Gibson
And actually, we're going to talk about something similar that later in the show with a Steph Curry. All right, let's see what we got here in PSA 10. Azur Thompson. ah Do you know what? I've got the wrong Thompson brother, haven't I?

00:31:47.16
Russell Gibson
I've said Azur, but I meant to say Eamon.

00:31:50.71
Adz
It could be Eamon.

00:31:51.82
Russell Gibson
no a No, no, Eamon is the Houston Rockets guy.

00:31:51.87
Adz
No, they said it's all.

00:31:56.33
Adz
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:57.44
Russell Gibson
Well, we've done Azure.

00:31:58.17
Adz
Yeah.

00:31:58.40
Russell Gibson
Now let's do Eamon. Give me give me a do-over on that.

00:32:00.03
Adz
What's that?

00:32:02.64
Russell Gibson
All right. You ready? Eamon Thompson, which is the Houston Rockets guy, is on card letter with his silver PSA 10. Population on this is 975.

00:32:13.89
Russell Gibson
Last sold for 225. So if you think that the Josh Giddey last sold price is real, there are almost neck and neck at the moment. There's a lot more sales data on Azur Thompson.

00:32:25.70
Russell Gibson
This guy is hot. If you look at his dots on his map, there is a lot of action going on here.

00:32:30.42
Adz
Azir or Armin?

00:32:32.20
Russell Gibson
Ah, Eamon. Eamon, thank you. Thank you for correcting me. um In the last three months, interestingly, he's only up 1.5%. I would actually have thought there'd be a lot more heat on this card.

00:32:44.55
Adz
and Yeah, it's it's tricky. And because obviously the Rockets departed the playoffs rather early.

00:32:53.95
Russell Gibson
But I think that's fine. I think for that team, just them getting to the playoffs was a huge deal.

00:33:00.16
Adz
Yeah, true.

00:33:01.75
Russell Gibson
So what I'm going to say about this though, and I'm going to get my Thompsons right this time, Eamon Thompson, I think he becomes a better prospect now that Jalen Green has been moved on because really who else is like a young prospect on that team now that Jalen Green has gone?

00:33:18.57
Russell Gibson
i think Shen Goon obviously is someone you can look at. And we can roll this into Reed Shepard too. Jabari Smith is there, I suppose, but at the same time, I don't think there's a lot of heat on that guy.

00:33:30.58
Russell Gibson
i think where I was going with that is like, I think now that Jalen Green is gone, I wonder if more people will be investing Eamon Thompson just for that fact, because it's like, you don't want to spend money on Jalen Green anymore, or you might even take your money out of that and roll it into Eamon.

00:33:46.79
Adz
Yeah, that's that's a very valid um point.

00:33:50.26
Russell Gibson
I think for the next 12 months, Like that is going to be a really, I'm going to put that as a buy. I don't think it has zero risk, but at the same time, like for me, the logic is there. That team is going to be progressing through the playoffs.

00:34:07.10
Russell Gibson
I think he's going to have a big role in that team. I think defensively he is just exceptional. And think Kevin Durant being there is definitely not going to hurt him. I think KD is a good teammate.

00:34:21.16
Russell Gibson
And a much better shot maker than Jalen Green. Like, let's be honest here.

00:34:24.36
Adz
Hang on, hang on. Did you say Kevin Durant is a better teammate?

00:34:31.23
Russell Gibson
I like KD.

00:34:32.89
Adz
I don't know. I just, I find that it's the teammate factor is the problem. He can play basketball. It's the teammate factor. Sorry.

00:34:43.05
Adz
Sorry.

00:34:45.06
Russell Gibson
But I think

00:34:45.45
Adz
you're You're welcome to call him a good teammate.

00:34:47.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but I think that thing with OKC, like we've already done this, but so I'll just do it again real quickly.

00:34:51.61
Adz
Yeah, and Golden State, yeah.

00:34:53.17
Russell Gibson
I think that that team was young and I think that they had a lot of talent. And I think also too, that pairing of KD and Harden was always going to end up like that.

00:35:04.67
Russell Gibson
And then mix in the personality type of Westbrook.

00:35:04.76
Adz
But then he goes went with Curry, and he with Curry's like the best...

00:35:09.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but actually they won two championships, right?

00:35:12.41
Adz
They did, but his ego, and he wasn't a good teammate. He was just a good basketballer.

00:35:16.47
Russell Gibson
But was it his ego or was it the fact that just couldn't get along with Draymond and who has proven to be like kind of a bad teammate over the years, punching people, getting suspended, nut kicking LeBron?

00:35:26.10
Adz
Yeah, okay, okay. I just, I don't think, I i think KD struggled to to be a follower of Steph Curry and didn't he wanted to be the guy and he couldn't accept that.

00:35:30.96
Russell Gibson
actually think...

00:35:40.10
Russell Gibson
But was the chemistry issue... Steph and KD?

00:35:42.69
Adz
Steph, or was it?

00:35:44.02
Russell Gibson
I don't think so. I actually think those guys, I thought they played really well together.

00:35:49.41
Adz
fish Yeah, it could be Draymond.

00:35:51.07
Russell Gibson
Then he goes on to the Phoenix Suns, right? And like, was it...

00:35:54.39
Adz
Don't forget Brooklyn. Don't forget Brooklyn.

00:35:55.73
Russell Gibson
yeah Yeah, I think we can move past that. But like, there was no animosity between him and Booker. Like, there was no complaints there.

00:36:03.03
Adz
well It wasn't about complaints about him. He just didn't want to be there at all.

00:36:07.12
Russell Gibson
I just think with him, it's like, it's a bit like... um Jimmy Butler. He's a two or three year rental.

00:36:12.51
Adz
Okay, okay, okay.

00:36:13.80
Russell Gibson
And I think that's what, once you get that into your head, it doesn't mean he's a bad teammate.

00:36:16.05
Adz
I don't know. i feel like Kevin Durant's the biggest diva, one of the biggest divas in the NBA.

00:36:18.08
Russell Gibson
He just gets bored. He probably is.

00:36:21.58
Adz
And if he doesn't get his way, he creates a bunch of burner accounts.

00:36:26.58
Russell Gibson
All right. We're going to take another break. We were actually getting through this a lot slower than what I was expecting. This might be the whole show ad.

00:36:33.80
Adz
I told you this was going to be, this was going to take up most of it, right?

00:36:36.73
Russell Gibson
Well, you were right.

00:36:37.28
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:37.81
Russell Gibson
I was wrong.

00:36:39.44
Adz
It's all right. we might just We'll get some repeat names soon. Don't worry.

00:36:43.11
Russell Gibson
It's all good. We're not in a rush, really, we?

00:36:45.55
Adz
true

00:36:47.93
Russell Gibson
US Sports Cards Australia. Thank you for your ongoing support. Go to ussportscardsaustralia.com.au. There you will find a blue screen. Click on the three little noodles at the top.

00:37:03.33
Russell Gibson
You'll find sports breaks. Check out my Cards Australia, singles categories, collectible protection, hobby boxes, sports memorabilia, and toys. Of course, go to Ross's project, his pet project, Check Out My Cards Australia. It is a consignment service.

00:37:19.31
Russell Gibson
Submit all of your cards to Ross. He will sell them for you on your consignment submission form. Just write anywhere on there. You can't comp this for a free submission. I think what we should do today is go to his singles category. Just have a bit of a browse through that.

00:37:33.11
Russell Gibson
so let's go singles, and NBA basketball. Let's see what he's got for sale here. RJ Hampton, silver rookie for a dollar. I'm just browsing through here randomly. I'm not doing any keyword searches.

00:37:46.34
Russell Gibson
He's got a lot of prism silvers on here. He's got an RJ Hampton red, white, and blue for a dollar. He's got 19 plus pages to sift through here.

00:37:56.40
Adz
That's awesome. that's a lot of That's a lot to get through.

00:37:58.83
Russell Gibson
He's got a lot. Desmond Bain base rookie prism card for a dollar. Looks like everything bottoms out at about a dollar. I suppose that does seem like a lot, but at the same time, if you are um then combining your postage in together actually like works out totally fine.

00:38:20.12
Russell Gibson
Oh, Adam, there's one here we missed. That's the LeBron Kobe tribute dunk. He sold that for $2. It's marked as sold out. Clearly a purchaser got in on that and purchased that one quick.

00:38:27.50
Adz
Oh no.

00:38:31.62
Adz
Love that one. Love that card.

00:38:33.59
Russell Gibson
All right, that will cut it off there. Thank you to Ross and Michael for your ongoing support. We really appreciate everything you do for us lads.

00:38:46.39
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, we're back. Welcome back, everybody. We are going to continue our off-season conversation with Mr. Joel Pettingjewel's suggestion of Terrence Shannon Jr.

00:39:00.70
Russell Gibson
I've been keen on him for a while, hoping he gets his chance. Alright, so I think this guy's not a good prospect because he's already 24 years of age, which

00:39:14.09
Adz
Somebody that had a frism jade dragon disagrees and spent $155 USD on it. That's a sell.

00:39:26.40
Russell Gibson
See, I think that's a sell though.

00:39:28.37
Adz
that's a sell

00:39:29.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah. um So last season, keeping in mind, he would have been 23 then. 10 minutes a game, 48% from the field, 35% from the floor, 81% from the line, 1.5 rebounds, one assist.

00:39:44.81
Adz
Yeah.

00:39:45.92
Russell Gibson
Nothing to comment on with blocks and steals. Half a turnover a game for 4.3 points. Look, I think...

00:39:51.83
Adz
Yeah.

00:39:53.72
Russell Gibson
at 24, what he would be 25 almost imminently. It's, but it's not really someone you want to be prospecting into.

00:39:57.35
Adz
That's normally how it works. Yeah.

00:40:02.01
Russell Gibson
I think.

00:40:02.75
Adz
Yeah. ah luke I agree. For for for context, Luka Doncic is 25.

00:40:08.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right.

00:40:08.99
Adz
Yeah, I'm just... Yeah, it's correct.

00:40:10.08
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:10.53
Adz
Yeah, I get it. SGA is 26.

00:40:11.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:12.59
Adz
Yeah. six

00:40:14.06
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Pat Williams is 23. Like this is a kid that I feel like he's about 35 already. um Like, and I think,

00:40:24.14
Russell Gibson
I think all the money I've spent on Pat Williams is it's gone. It's flush. But at the same time, he's still got like two more years to catch up to our boy Terrence Shannon Jr. So anything else in terms of comps you've got on him that's worth mentioning?

00:40:39.11
Adz
There was a one of one that went for 1,450. um

00:40:42.50
Russell Gibson
Jesus.

00:40:44.26
Adz
That's in the 2425 select hobby. 101 black infinite, no, black finite auto.

00:40:52.67
Russell Gibson
That is high-end gambling. That's Jordan-esque.

00:40:56.69
Adz
that That's, that's Markeith Morris has taken out a loan to buy that card.

00:41:01.52
Russell Gibson
Maybe that's what the bad credit was for.

00:41:03.23
Adz
That's exactly right.

00:41:07.10
Adz
Yeah, nothing else of note, really.

00:41:08.90
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:41:11.74
Russell Gibson
Joe Fu, with some greats of the game almost wrapping up, Curry and LeBron still remain amongst some Players I wouldn't mind getting more of. Damian Lillard moving back to the Blazers for his retirement tour makes him very attractive as a lower cost Hall of Fame.

00:41:26.33
Russell Gibson
Great to collect. Younger prospects, Benedict Matthew and Scoot Henderson. Reid Shepard looking good moving forward. All right. I will let you open up with this one because I know you want to talk about LeBron.

00:41:35.71
Adz
That's a lot.

00:41:40.41
Adz
I think maybe, and this is just a maybe, with enough negative press on LeBron, his cards might be sneaky buys at the moment because they will go up when the retirement tour starts.

00:41:57.94
Adz
That's just my thought. I think i think when... when the nowt When he's back in a positive light, people will want the cards. When people are saying he's too old, too slow and holding the Lakers back and every second day there's a different trade package to move him to Cleveland or Miami or whatever.

00:42:16.64
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:42:17.07
Adz
um I don't think that the positive narrative is where his card value is going to hold. Look, I could be wrong, um but I have a feeling that once that announcement comes, and it it might not come this season, it might come next season, and a LeBron will announce he's going for one more round and that's it.

00:42:36.59
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:42:37.58
Adz
and that And that's the point where those cards are going to start going up.

00:42:40.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:42:41.58
Adz
I mean, you don't have to say he's the greatest of all time to accept and appreciate the fact that LeBron James is one of the greatest basketballers to have ever graced the hardwood.

00:42:52.80
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:42:53.42
Adz
It's – you can say Jordan's the greatest, but this man, what this man's achieved is phenomenal.

00:43:00.56
Russell Gibson
do

00:43:01.57
Adz
and And he's a modern-day great. So the retirement of LeBron James will be a big deal and will will naturally increase the demand for his cards.

00:43:11.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:13.44
Adz
So –

00:43:13.48
Russell Gibson
I've got no problems with anything that you just said.

00:43:15.17
Adz
Yeah. negative and the negative the The negative exposure at the moment may reduce the demand, which gives it a great opportunity to buy this off-season.

00:43:24.89
Russell Gibson
So I've got four things to add to this. i think LeBron is a buy at the moment. um

00:43:31.22
Adz
Yeah.

00:43:31.73
Russell Gibson
My number one point is let's talk about his tops Chrome rookie card.

00:43:36.14
Adz
Sure.

00:43:36.90
Russell Gibson
If you look at the all time data on this card, We're up and down through the crazy period, right? So that's, it's done and dusted.

00:43:44.06
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:43:45.68
Russell Gibson
So I think now is a good time to sort of be reassured that that is actually an accurate and stable price. Because if you look at that, with so if you draw a line from pre-COVID to now,

00:44:00.82
Russell Gibson
It's just like a very gentle line going upwards. And to be honest with you i think I think that's the right trajectory for that card.

00:44:06.05
Adz
That's just natural growth, right?

00:44:09.26
Russell Gibson
So where this for me gets really interesting is, so we've got 28,000 for the PSA 10 is the current price. Population's 180. Go to the PSA 9, that's 11,000 at population 422.

00:44:22.44
Russell Gibson
And actually, if you look at that and you're drawing that line from pre-COVID to now, I actually think that line's a little bit steeper.

00:44:28.90
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:29.04
Russell Gibson
And I think interesting for me, I'm like and nine and a 10, I think should be like 50% cheaper, but that's more than 50% cheaper. So I actually wonder if there's still a bit more room on that PSA nine to go up. So I'm going to put that as a, as a buy.

00:44:43.10
Russell Gibson
I think buy the PSA 10, if you can afford it, um buy the PSA nine, if you can afford it Does that make sense?

00:44:48.40
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:44:49.36
Russell Gibson
So that's your two price points. um If you want to go something cheaper, I actually think at the moment something that's undervalued in the marketplace is any silver LeBron card.

00:44:59.38
Russell Gibson
So whether it's like a select, a prism inserts, because a lot of them you can pick up now for like $10 in auctions.

00:45:01.80
Adz
Oh, good point. Yeah,

00:45:07.17
Russell Gibson
And I really think this is a very long-term like conversation that we're having at the moment, but I think that's like very much um a good buy.

00:45:11.27
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:45:15.88
Russell Gibson
um The other card is just to talk about is the one we really quickly touched on our advertisement with US s Sports Cards Australia. the LeBron Kobe tribute dunk, I still think long-term this is a card that is going to be very much...

00:45:25.41
Adz
Yeah, yeah. yeah

00:45:31.46
Russell Gibson
collectible and people are going to want to get their hands on for some God forsaken reason.

00:45:34.61
Adz
yeah yeah

00:45:36.76
Russell Gibson
i cannot find ah silver and I don't want to talk about the gold to 10. Give me a second. See if I can find it under raw. Here we go. Raw.

00:45:47.88
Russell Gibson
There's no PSA 10 data on the raw. All right. Let's just talk about the raws. It's, it's irrelevant. Anyway, they're selling for 60, $55 USD. fifty five dollars u s d

00:45:59.26
Russell Gibson
I think that there's even a play to be made that you take those cards and you buy them and send them to PSA. There's always exception to the rules about sending cards to PSA.

00:46:10.67
Adz
Yeah.

00:46:11.38
Russell Gibson
And this is one of them. This is an old time card. Just for context, the orange is currently trading at $520 for PSA 10.

00:46:23.45
Russell Gibson
So imagine what a silver would be trading for.

00:46:23.65
Adz
Yeah.

00:46:25.17
Russell Gibson
Probably double that. I would guess.

00:46:26.77
Adz
Yeah.

00:46:28.04
Russell Gibson
um The last point I want to talk about with LeBron is his autograph status. There's been a like a little bit of rumblings in terms of him um having autographs coming up with tops. What's that going to do to his current autograph stash?

00:46:42.12
Russell Gibson
I haven't actually seen as big of a downfall as what I was be expecting into that. And in fact, I'd actually say say the little bit of price that has come off some of these like cheap cheaper LeBron autographs, like his Irish stuff,

00:46:56.00
Russell Gibson
Actually, now because it's come down a little bit, probably good time to buy.

00:46:58.36
Adz
Probably good buys.

00:46:59.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah. But I would also say if you're going to hang out and wait for the tops, Lakers uniform stuff to come out, that's going to be sick. I think there's no problem with just putting your pennies away and doing that too. Like no problems with that at all.

00:47:10.33
Adz
Not at all. I think that's... um Yeah.

00:47:11.71
Russell Gibson
Yep. um All right.

00:47:13.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:15.36
Russell Gibson
Curry. We've already done curry today, haven't we?

00:47:17.68
Adz
we've we've We've talked about... We've we've touched on curry.

00:47:19.35
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:47:19.79
Adz
No, we haven't done curry today, but...

00:47:21.78
Russell Gibson
Do you want to do curry? All right.

00:47:23.35
Adz
but could We can touch on Steph Curry. Um... It's one of those, it's in a similar vein to LeBron. I don't think he's in the, he's definitely in the twilight of his career. So the the lens looks a bit blurry and maybe there's some opportunities there.

00:47:33.71
Russell Gibson
I,

00:47:38.19
Adz
I don' i don't think you're going to get any crazy steals on Stephen Curry, but

00:47:48.78
Adz
look, it's something that's on my radar for sure. It's, um,

00:47:55.91
Adz
Yeah, I mean, a Curry rookie.

00:48:00.49
Adz
this man's goingnna be This man is going to be etched onto Mount Rushmore. That's all I can say.

00:48:04.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah, and he should be. And I think just stealing again from Ryan at Gem Rate, where he was saying that is Curry the guy that we should be buying up? Is he the most underrated using index data from that?

00:48:15.59
Adz
Mmm.

00:48:19.87
Russell Gibson
I think since the last time we've spoken to Ryan, Curry shifted up a lot. So that conversation, that equation might have changed.

00:48:25.83
Adz
yeah

00:48:26.18
Russell Gibson
But I still think there's a long way to go with Curry going upwards just in general. My only thing with Curry is like, I feel like with LeBron, you can buy that sort of more lower end stuff and it'll be fine.

00:48:38.73
Russell Gibson
Whereas Curry, I wouldn't be as confident to say buy anything.

00:48:42.17
Adz
The Silvers.

00:48:43.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah, like I wouldn't say the same thing about Curry.

00:48:44.97
Adz
I think Silvers and numbered are safe bets.

00:48:46.03
Russell Gibson
Like I would say with Curry, do case hits, do the kabooms, maybe do maybe do an autograph.

00:48:46.97
Adz
Colour matches.

00:48:52.43
Adz
Colour matches.

00:48:54.50
Russell Gibson
But Curry is signed so much, I'd be a little bit, like I wouldn't ah wouldn't be buying every single Curry autograph that I could get my hands on.

00:48:58.69
Adz
Yeah, that's, that's a good one. Yeah.

00:49:04.28
Russell Gibson
Whereas I feel a bit different about LeBron. Do you know what i mean Like, I think for me, like LeBron is just that one or two steps up the ladder than what Curry is.

00:49:13.22
Adz
ah agree. i agree.

00:49:13.84
Russell Gibson
In the hobby world, at least anyway.

00:49:17.10
Adz
Fair.

00:49:17.39
Russell Gibson
All right. That's enough on Curry. Damian Lillard. Let's talk about Lillard because he's an interesting one in that Now that he's gone back to Portland for his twilight, he's not going to now win a championship.

00:49:30.16
Russell Gibson
We can start to summarize his career a lot more comprehensively.

00:49:35.57
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:49:36.57
Russell Gibson
And so I'm actually really interested to see what's happening with his prices at the moment, like the last couple of months, because yeah, he hasn't sold. His silver PSA 10 hasn't sold in the last three months.

00:49:49.41
Adz
Or six months, actually.

00:49:49.69
Russell Gibson
There's been, there's been one sale in the last six months and that sold for 1,100. Look,

00:49:56.66
Russell Gibson
Maybe he's going to be one of those cards that not a lot of people sell them. It's not a highly traded card.

00:50:01.74
Adz
There's only 45 of them.

00:50:03.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Plus his resume, plus his cult following.

00:50:04.39
Adz
Low pop.

00:50:07.12
Russell Gibson
ah thousand bucks might be the buy-in for this guy. Look, for me, this is, I'm not going to back people for collecting Lillard.

00:50:11.15
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:14.75
Russell Gibson
This is such a personal preference. This is a PC card for me. I just don't see that this is not, I don't think this is a traded or tradable card.

00:50:19.63
Adz
and

00:50:23.90
Russell Gibson
And I think that the sales data backs that up. It's just, this is not liquid.

00:50:28.76
Adz
Agreed.

00:50:29.49
Russell Gibson
I think the maybe the more fun question, maybe the more fun question for this podcast is, do you buy, hold or sell that?

00:50:29.81
Adz
Completely agreed.

00:50:37.75
Russell Gibson
I would sell that for a thousand.

00:50:38.67
Adz
I'd sell it. Yeah, yeah.

00:50:39.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And by.

00:50:41.28
Adz
I'm sorry. Put it towards a Curry or Jokic something.

00:50:43.85
Russell Gibson
Correct. Yeah.

00:50:44.48
Adz
Yeah.

00:50:44.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:50:46.11
Adz
LeBron.

00:50:46.12
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:50:46.43
Adz
A LeBron.

00:50:48.48
Russell Gibson
We need to go for a break. When we come back, we will do Benedict Matthew and.

00:50:53.71
Adz
Let's do it.

00:51:02.58
Russell Gibson
And we are back for the last segment of today's show. And we are absolutely not going to get to any of the other stuff on the run sheet today.

00:51:11.19
Adz
Oh, we might get one more thing done. Plus, that we've got the Jordan Coby to finish with.

00:51:15.81
Russell Gibson
I don't think we're even going to get the Jordan and Kobe.

00:51:20.87
Adz
You're probably right. Let's be fair.

00:51:22.54
Russell Gibson
All right. Benedict Mathurin. Yes, I think this guy is a buy. Do I think he's as good of a buy as he was previously? before Halliburton blow at his Achilles?

00:51:35.29
Russell Gibson
No, I don't. But

00:51:39.05
Adz
Interesting.

00:51:41.84
Russell Gibson
I think that team is gonna be in purgatory for a long time.

00:51:46.52
Russell Gibson
Actually, i'm goingnna actually um I'm changing my decision. I'm putting him as a hold.

00:51:52.35
Adz
He's a hold now.

00:51:53.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I can't. I think they're gonna be really bad this year.

00:51:57.69
Adz
I've

00:52:00.45
Russell Gibson
Silver PSA 10 last sold for 86 USD. like That's not a buy for me. I'm not. No.

00:52:07.64
Adz
got counterpoint.

00:52:07.83
Russell Gibson
In fact, I'm ready to move on already. I'm done with that.

00:52:11.90
Adz
I think, and look, might be right. might be

00:52:15.06
Russell Gibson
Hit me.

00:52:16.70
Adz
i think and and and look you might be right it might be a ah a sell, a hold, it might be a disaster year for the Pacers. However, yeah, however, I was going back through, we were talking about this before the show.

00:52:27.48
Russell Gibson
It's going to be bad this year, man. Yeah.

00:52:36.12
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:52:36.90
Adz
were talking about, funnily enough, um what draft year is, let's say, due to to explode given the, call it the Anthony Edwards, the Cade factor, the take the next step year, right?

00:52:54.36
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:52:55.02
Adz
Mathurin's in that window.

00:52:59.30
Adz
Mathurin is in that window as is, who's the other one on the paces? So Mathurin, same draft, isn't it?

00:53:11.65
Adz
Andrew Nembhard.

00:53:13.67
Russell Gibson
Sure.

00:53:14.53
Adz
Both in that window.

00:53:16.79
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:53:16.82
Adz
And I'll continue that and say Detroit's also got a couple, because I'll i'll segue for my whole bit, Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duran.

00:53:26.36
Russell Gibson
That's fine. But I think my perspective is like, they've just made the finals. They've lost Halliburton and also Miles Turner. So let's just say I agree with like this, like what you're saying, but,

00:53:36.09
Adz
They've still got Pascal Siakam. That's my, um' I'm putting faith in that, man.

00:53:38.56
Russell Gibson
How much increased output do they need to do to keep that team relevant? like i just read like i think it's I think it's very tricky.

00:53:45.65
Adz
They get a few players back from injury and then they and then they work. I don't think they're going to be playing in the NBA finals this year.

00:53:53.04
Russell Gibson
If they win 25 games this year, I'll be genuinely surprised.

00:53:53.54
Adz
Next season.

00:53:58.18
Adz
Okay.

00:53:58.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:58.98
Adz
I've got them.

00:53:59.53
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:53:59.66
Adz
umll i'll have I'll have them in the play-in.

00:54:02.65
Russell Gibson
okay that's I mean, in the East, like, that's not air outrageous to say that, but it's like, <unk> I think it's already tricky in Indiana because it's a small market in terms of, you know, like hobby collectible.

00:54:13.43
Russell Gibson
Like, I think if Halliburton was on another team, he'd probably be double the price, honestly.

00:54:13.93
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:17.38
Adz
yeah

00:54:17.65
Russell Gibson
And it's like, then if you take out Halliburton and all the eyes on the playoffs, like, I think they're going to be, I think that's like, for me, that's really tough, you know?

00:54:27.68
Adz
ah the the the the The team that's been built and the system that they've built, I think, is very is very open to slotting pieces in and throwing lineups out.

00:54:28.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:54:33.56
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:54:36.89
Russell Gibson
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:40.04
Adz
And this Indiana culture...

00:54:41.71
Russell Gibson
Like the Mike D'Antoni sort of output. Yeah, yeah.

00:54:44.23
Adz
Yeah, but it's like they'll keep throwing things until something works, something sticks, and if they get an elevation out of two of their their their players, that puts them into some form of relevance.

00:54:48.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:54:52.85
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And he had that huge game in the finals, so maybe they'll bank on him, you know, keep doing stuff like that.

00:54:59.08
Adz
Yeah, Nemha does something.

00:54:59.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah, look. Yeah.

00:55:01.06
Adz
um Mathurin does something. They take a step. They get a big, maybe something happens. And Pascal Siakam is one of the most underrated players in the league.

00:55:06.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:55:10.82
Russell Gibson
100%.

00:55:11.03
Russell Gibson
still, like, his hobby collectible value is still not there, you know?

00:55:11.32
Adz
for sure. He can't do it on his own. He's not the number one guy.

00:55:15.92
Russell Gibson
it's He's a tough one.

00:55:16.00
Adz
Correct. But, but maybe Matthew, but maybe Matthew is the one that that, that becomes the collectible one by being entertaining.

00:55:17.39
Russell Gibson
I love Spicy P. Yeah.

00:55:24.49
Adz
Right.

00:55:24.53
Russell Gibson
All right. All right.

00:55:25.55
Adz
Maybe, maybe I'm just trying to, I'm some positivity.

00:55:26.90
Russell Gibson
I think we should make an Instagram click out of this, to be honest.

00:55:29.12
Adz
Yeah.

00:55:30.06
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:55:30.33
Adz
Very clickbaity. And then obviously I've got the same view for for Detroit with Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duran, who also came out of the the same draft pod and are set for that that breakout level year.

00:55:31.50
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.

00:55:42.00
Russell Gibson
So I would be like betting on Jaden Ivey. If I had a choice between Jaden Ivey and Matthew, I'd be like Jaden Ivey all day because with old mate Malik Beasley fixing games now out of the league, that's actually created actually a really large void, in my opinion, void on that team.

00:55:49.10
Adz
Okay.

00:55:56.98
Adz
Yep. Yeah, for sure. Oh, not a doubt whatsoever.

00:55:59.93
Russell Gibson
And I think the person to benefit the most out of that nonsense is Ivey, 100%. hundred percent Jurin for me is a bit like,

00:56:09.79
Adz
Yeah, but he's he's the Nem nim Hard.

00:56:09.81
Russell Gibson
I don't know. Big guy

00:56:12.31
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:12.43
Russell Gibson
He's a big guy

00:56:13.55
Adz
Yep. Agreed.

00:56:14.69
Russell Gibson
He hurts people and he is great to watch, but are you collecting him? I don't think so. You know, um, Reed Shepard, I've got a take on this. So this is going back to Joe Foos post last year.

00:56:26.91
Adz
Yeah, yep. Yep.

00:56:29.05
Russell Gibson
I really felt he was held out of the lineup. And I think that if you draft someone at number three and don't play them for two years in a row, there's something really bad going on. and And I think as much as they held him out last year, I think they'll play him this year.

00:56:45.15
Russell Gibson
I think they have to.

00:56:45.66
Adz
Okay.

00:56:47.10
Russell Gibson
i also think too, with that KD trade, they lost a little bit of depth.

00:56:50.77
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:56:51.42
Russell Gibson
And maybe the thinking is that Reed Shepard can come in and like fill some minutes there. So Ruby PSA 10, which is that beautiful red on red for the Houston Rockets there, that's sold for 71 USD.

00:57:05.29
Russell Gibson
There's not a lot of Reed Shepard on here for me. That's like super collectible. um There's a pink ice there that's pop eight PSA 10 that sold for 43 USD. I think that's a pretty good purchase.

00:57:18.13
Russell Gibson
There's the Ice Gold PSA 10 to 10.

00:57:18.13
Adz
For

00:57:21.34
Russell Gibson
That's sold for $1,525. You cited a card before that was a one of one. i think that's just as risky in my opinion. i think I think a lot has to go right to get your money back on that.

00:57:32.57
Adz
fish sure.

00:57:37.01
Russell Gibson
you know what mean?

00:57:37.18
Adz
Yeah, agreed, agreed.

00:57:38.14
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:57:38.64
Adz
The stars need to align.

00:57:39.87
Russell Gibson
If eBay's taken 20% your card...

00:57:42.85
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. No doubt.

00:57:48.22
Russell Gibson
Joe Fu, we forgot Topic. I don't think we can talk about Topic.

00:57:51.65
Adz
Nah, nah, we're all right. but we

00:57:53.35
Russell Gibson
No, I think if he gets eight minutes a game on that Thunder team this year, that's going to be... No, seriously, that team is stacked.

00:57:59.34
Adz
an improvement. Yeah, it sucks. I get it. I get it.

00:58:01.37
Russell Gibson
It's absolutely stacked. I just think the Thunder is such almost a stay away for me now, other than like the big boys at the top.

00:58:03.86
Adz
and Yeah.

00:58:08.32
Russell Gibson
It's just too packed. Yep.

00:58:11.03
Adz
um Notables. Oh, actually. no

00:58:13.59
Russell Gibson
So James Mann said Scoot Henderson and Azura Thompson.

00:58:14.37
Adz
we got?

00:58:16.69
Russell Gibson
Oh, wait, Azura Thompson. Oh, no, we kind of did do Azura and Aimee at the same time.

00:58:19.49
Adz
we've already said Yeah, that's what I mean.

00:58:20.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah, all right, great.

00:58:21.29
Adz
It's already there.

00:58:21.60
Russell Gibson
We're done.

00:58:22.43
Adz
We've done both of them.

00:58:22.48
Russell Gibson
Well done, us.

00:58:23.74
Adz
um

00:58:23.79
Russell Gibson
We're well done. yeah

00:58:24.80
Adz
On the Instagram post, and this is House of Dragic with an Elevating Magic, Paolo.

00:58:25.96
Russell Gibson
Instagram, let's do it.

00:58:32.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah, great. Let's do Banchero.

00:58:33.51
Adz
um and i And I think that fits well with what I was saying before about all the the bumps because he was the number one pick in the draft class I'm referring to with Matthew and Ivy.

00:58:46.70
Russell Gibson
Right. So you think this guy's got a good chance to move up?

00:58:47.89
Adz
That's what I'm saying.

00:58:50.74
Adz
i am I am very, very um high on this draft class being very relevant this year.

00:58:58.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:58:59.66
Adz
um and and I definitely think that Paolo is, yeah, I think Paolo's the one to watch out for um as far as the number one player that we expect to go to another level to take that step.

00:59:17.70
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:59:19.42
Adz
um If anyone else, if any other draft class leaps, my Smokey would also be Brandon Miller, but

00:59:29.21
Russell Gibson
Okay. Can you hold that Brandon Miller thought for two seconds?

00:59:31.84
Adz
Yeah, we'll go and have a look at a card, yeah.

00:59:32.36
Russell Gibson
Is that all right? Yeah. Cause what i was just going to say is, so Ben chair is currently trading at three 87, which I think is a very reasonable and fine price for him.

00:59:41.19
Adz
Yeah.

00:59:41.70
Russell Gibson
um And I was just thinking maybe a good comp at the moment for Banchero is Cade Cunningham. So for reference, Cade Cunningham is currently trading at $499 with a population The population is and buy Banchero.

01:00:01.67
Russell Gibson
so i look i really think you know if you're on a budget and you've got four hundred dollars i think it's totally fine to buy a benchurro But at the same time, looking at the pop count and the dollar figure, I actually wonder if, as much as I'm high on Banchero, what's that?

01:00:13.24
Adz
Yeah. what What is his pop count?

01:00:23.26
Adz
What is the pop count? Hang on. It's not 4,800 Mm-mm.

01:00:25.01
Russell Gibson
The pop count is $8.61 for the Banchero.

01:00:25.65
Adz
Mm-mm.

01:00:28.61
Adz
it's not it's not forty eight hundred like um wembby though

01:00:32.26
Russell Gibson
no it's not. But I'm just thinking like, I'm making a slimmed down comparison here of like Caden Banchero. But I think he's a good buy.

01:00:38.39
Adz
ah

01:00:40.49
Russell Gibson
But at the same time, for that little bit extra, you can actually get someone who's like a bit more maybe stable. But at the same time, if, if Banchero averages 30 points a game this year, it wouldn't be shocking.

01:00:56.43
Russell Gibson
He is just an absolute, he's just a scoring machine, man.

01:00:56.88
Adz
So is this the moment where Paolo becomes the SGA of, that's what I mean. Like, does he all of a sudden do the SGA thing and we're going, man, we should have got him when it was 387 and all of sudden at 1600.

01:01:03.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah. yeah

01:01:08.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Definitely.

01:01:09.12
Adz
Mm-hmm.

01:01:09.14
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Look, I think that's a very good call. i think that absolutely could happen. um You then touched on Brandon Miller. This is the perfect time to bring this guy in.

01:01:19.35
Russell Gibson
He's trading at $175. The population is $2,200.

01:01:21.95
Adz
huh

01:01:24.33
Russell Gibson
That is just absolutely insane. i can't believe that. Yeah, like that is just an insane. This is an absolute, I would not touch this card.

01:01:38.68
Russell Gibson
Even if you gave it to me as a present, I'd be just still kind of like, I don't know what to do with this card. I was going to put it into a box. You know what i mean? It'd be like,

01:01:48.22
Adz
Brandon Miller's a different story, though, because the pop count on his silver PSA 10 is 2,200. Mmm. Mmm.

01:01:53.15
Russell Gibson
yeah. And also too, he's like such a, like difficult situation with the team. They've been all over the place. I think he's very heavily dependent on someone setting him up, which would be LaMelo Ball. And,

01:02:06.90
Russell Gibson
and like the really funny thing about Ball's game is actually I think he's still a playmaker, but he's evolving more into a volume. i wouldn't even call him a scorer. It's like shooting.

01:02:19.19
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:19.86
Russell Gibson
Like his three-point numbers last year were just insane.

01:02:20.21
Adz
I know what you mean.

01:02:22.62
Russell Gibson
And it's like, i know that's where the league is going, but i like for me, the thing I love about his game is like him setting people up and it's like every three ball he shoots is like, you know,

01:02:31.45
Adz
Mmm.

01:02:35.38
Russell Gibson
One less shot for Brandon Miller. All right. I think we should talk about something that we would buy from Brandon Miller. The blue ice to 125. That's almost a color match. The population on this is 63.

01:02:45.68
Adz
Oh, likely, yeah.

01:02:48.34
Russell Gibson
and it sold for 636. I think, yes, it's a lot more money.

01:02:53.74
Adz
but it's only numbered to 125. I think that's ah actually a really good, that's a good pickup.

01:02:59.74
Russell Gibson
and his Prismania is pop one. No price on it.

01:03:05.56
Adz
But there is a PSA 10 out there.

01:03:07.41
Russell Gibson
yeah Okay, let me let me rephrase my my take on Brendan Miller.

01:03:09.14
Adz
PSA nine lasts off 700 bucks.

01:03:15.35
Russell Gibson
Stay away from the Silvers. Look at other options. There's some nice collectible...

01:03:18.61
Adz
There you go, yeah.

01:03:20.37
Russell Gibson
i don't need to be a negative Nelly about this, do

01:03:21.81
Adz
some Some pretty cards out there the the the could just suffice for a good rookie pickup.

01:03:24.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:03:29.35
Russell Gibson
Yeah. um The two other that the House of Dragic put down was Buzoulos for the Bulls, and I think that's a fun one to talk about.

01:03:35.14
Adz
Mm-hmm. Yep.

01:03:44.61
Russell Gibson
I cannot find him on card letters. I'm just quickly ducking in.

01:03:46.59
Adz
I can't imagine you would. he's It's his, what, second year?

01:03:50.24
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Wow. So, Bizzoula's silver PSA 10 sold for $500 on best offer.

01:03:57.00
Adz
That's ridiculous.

01:04:00.90
Russell Gibson
Maybe we just don't realize how collectible this kid is.

01:04:06.39
Russell Gibson
So, my the white millionaire Shimmer one of one PSA 10 sold for $5,250.

01:04:13.98
Russell Gibson
Maybe this dude is actually really low-key collectible.

01:04:18.72
Adz
No.

01:04:19.41
Russell Gibson
So in that case, I'd put him as a sell.

01:04:22.00
Adz
Yeah, I'm like sellout.

01:04:22.62
Russell Gibson
If people people are paying $500 for a silver, that's fine.

01:04:23.50
Adz
Yeah, nah.

01:04:26.83
Adz
Give me my 500 bucks.

01:04:28.08
Russell Gibson
I'm happy for you guys.

01:04:28.12
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:29.76
Russell Gibson
um Go nuts.

01:04:30.73
Adz
yeah Yeah. That's, that's, yeah, that's not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not buying it. Yeah.

01:04:35.53
Russell Gibson
His hoops presentation. So that's like that hoops, like it's the the hoops version of the, like the kaboom, if you want to call it that.

01:04:38.71
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:43.84
Adz
Yeah. Yep. Yep.

01:04:44.80
Russell Gibson
PSA 10, that sold for $203. That, do you know, there's more than one sold price of a silver for $500

01:04:47.92
Adz
Jesus.

01:04:53.56
Russell Gibson
He might not be on Card Ladder, but there's three comps of 500. Another one for 475, another one for 475. Look, even if we say 50% of those are like not real sales, that's still... All right, right.

01:05:08.52
Russell Gibson
Okay. I think we need to take this to the listeners and ask them what theyre I feel like we've dropped this, mate.

01:05:13.82
Adz
Buy, hold, or sell. Bang. Up. Done.

01:05:15.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

01:05:16.74
Adz
Come on. Tell us. Let us know. Buy, hold, sell.

01:05:19.11
Russell Gibson
yeah Bizzoulis also, sorry, House of Dragic also put up Bob Carrington. This is going to be our final card of the night ad.

01:05:27.13
Adz
Yes.

01:05:27.96
Russell Gibson
Yep.

01:05:29.92
Adz
Yes.

01:05:31.52
Russell Gibson
Bob Carrington is not on.

01:05:34.12
Adz
Are you surprised he's not on card ladder?

01:05:36.40
Russell Gibson
I would like to see all the first round picks on Cardletter. If I was in charge of Cardletter for the day,

01:05:46.47
Adz
you would do that you'd break the internet

01:05:47.91
Russell Gibson
i would do that. Bob Carrington, red cracked ice, PSA 10, Prism rookie card, sold for 33, 88 USD. Look, I don't mind Bob actually. I think that's that's a very reasonable price.

01:06:03.63
Adz
you

01:06:05.77
Russell Gibson
The premium factory set numbered to 150, PSA 10, that sold for 76 USD. That's probably a better purchase than the red cracked ice, to be honest.

01:06:19.33
Russell Gibson
the blue sold for 150 PSA 10. That's all pretty reasonable to me, to be honest.

01:06:25.77
Adz
Yeah, that's like reasonable prospecting.

01:06:26.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:06:28.14
Adz
That makes sense.

01:06:29.30
Russell Gibson
the The only problem is like for me with the wizards is like, you can't trust the wizards. It's like, you can't trust the clippers. You can't trust the Kings. You can't trust, you know what to mean? Like there's a whole bunch of teams that you just like, you know, prospect into at your own peril.

01:06:43.15
Adz
Yeah.

01:06:44.22
Russell Gibson
And I would put Bob Carrington in that sort of peril zone. So this for me is like, Yeah.

01:06:52.26
Russell Gibson
To be honest, probably bit of a stay away. As much as I do like Bob Carrington, I'm not investing crazy money into this guy.

01:07:01.85
Adz
No.

01:07:02.84
Russell Gibson
Final thoughts, my friend.

01:07:05.83
Adz
Final thoughts.

01:07:06.89
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:07:09.76
Adz
There's lot of interesting prospects in the off season.

01:07:11.99
Russell Gibson
That was a fun. We haven't done this for a very long time.

01:07:14.19
Adz
That's nice. it's it's

01:07:15.03
Russell Gibson
And this is like, oh, gee, you can't comp this content too, isn't it?

01:07:15.79
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:18.67
Adz
Yeah.

01:07:18.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:07:18.91
Adz
and and But it is, it's the off season. It's the downtime. It's, it's, What are you targeting? but Like, we know the Nationals honor the is is is going on this weekend.

01:07:29.64
Adz
So there's going to be a lot more data out of that. There's going to lot more booms and spikes and wonder how much ah memorabilia we sold at the National. Anyway. um

01:07:39.44
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Too soon, Ad.

01:07:42.17
Adz
Sorry.

01:07:43.23
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:07:43.67
Adz
Maybe we'll have an update next week. Anyway. Yeah. ah

01:07:47.99
Russell Gibson
Final thoughts for this week's show.

01:07:49.89
Adz
Lots of...

01:07:49.92
Russell Gibson
Pay them checks.

01:07:51.48
Adz
Lots of, yeah, yeah, pay your checks.

01:07:54.21
Russell Gibson
Yep.

01:07:54.29
Adz
Don't get your twin brother to go and try and get lines of credit out for you.

01:07:58.11
Russell Gibson
It's all right. And get him arrested at the airport.

01:08:02.84
Adz
should we Should we finish the night off with ah with the Kobe Jordan dual auto?

01:08:08.04
Russell Gibson
I feel like we have to now, if I say no, I'll be the bad guy.

01:08:10.07
Adz
Thank you.

01:08:11.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:08:11.77
Adz
You would be. um Otherwise, I would just um would ah would have thrown another Kobe out there.

01:08:13.23
Russell Gibson
I'll let, it I'll let you do this.

01:08:17.95
Adz
See, if you said no, I'd just throw another Kobe out. um So on Heritage Auctions at the moment, the Kobe Jordan Jewel Auto, Jewel Patch Auto, um Logo Man Patch Auto, one of one.

01:08:32.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Do logo, man. Yeah. Yeah.

01:08:38.73
Adz
Now, this is – what is it? Oh, look. it's ah It's a PSA 6.

01:08:43.05
Russell Gibson
Which I'm totally fine with.

01:08:45.24
Adz
I don't think anyone gives a fat rats flying something that it's a, a PSA six.

01:08:48.13
Russell Gibson
That doesn't fuss me at all. Yeah.

01:08:52.92
Adz
The current bid on this card sits at $2.9 million us. And there are three over three weeks to go.

01:09:03.66
Russell Gibson
So my floor for this card is 5 million. If it goes for 10, I won't be shocked. I'm going to go in the middle and say sells for 8 million. And I think that this is the type of card that all the big boys will be out there having an absolute

01:09:17.50
Adz
yeah

01:09:19.71
Russell Gibson
um

01:09:22.39
Russell Gibson
showing how much of a bigger man they are to the other person as their bids go up, if you know what I'm saying.

01:09:27.22
Adz
Go all anthony anthony davis ah Anthony Davis, all Anthony Edwards on someone.

01:09:31.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Honestly. And look, whatever they pay for it is going to be totally fine.

01:09:35.49
Adz
Yeah.

01:09:37.89
Russell Gibson
I think this is, yeah.

01:09:38.96
Adz
It's a magical card.

01:09:42.93
Russell Gibson
I know people,

01:09:42.96
Adz
if i had it If I had it, I'd bid on it. If I had the money, I'd bid on it.

01:09:47.05
Russell Gibson
that's all right. and If I had a spare 10 million us lying around.

01:09:49.76
Adz
If I had the money, I would bid on it.

01:09:51.44
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:09:53.52
Adz
it's It's a beautiful card. That is a that is a grail ah grail and a half.

01:09:57.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:10:00.61
Adz
it's It's incredible. so

01:10:03.25
Russell Gibson
Whatever this goes for, I'm just going to be just like, it's well-deserved.

01:10:03.60
Adz
yeah

01:10:06.31
Adz
um

01:10:07.22
Russell Gibson
Yep.

01:10:07.45
Adz
Post on status reserve. Any will post on the 20th of the 8th. So we've got 21 days to go. 23 days to go. Time left.

01:10:16.24
Russell Gibson
I think we should just bookmark this, check back in on it.

01:10:20.46
Adz
Yep.

01:10:21.14
Russell Gibson
Yep.

01:10:21.78
Adz
Yep.

01:10:22.91
Russell Gibson
Thanks, Ad. Thanks, everyone at home. Take care of yourselves.

01:10:26.33
Adz
We'll see you in the next one.