You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
You Can't Comp This: NBA Trading Card Podcast
Episode 229: Admiral Schofield, Incels, Steph Curry, Luka, Fox
This week Adam and Russell break down some NBA news:
What is the chances Russell finally get's to meet his greatest PC only player??
Schofield to the cairns taipans
We finally see some justice for the WNBA incel cartel
D thrower arrested & kaden lopez arrested: Remember these faces......
- Kobe down town, and 2012 Kobe
- The big boi of the show: Steph 1/1 2014 Prizm
- Heritage auctions, checkup
- Tyson Beck x Giannis: crazy patch work here
- SGA: 1/1 black mosaic SGA PSA 10
- Luka extension: Adam's boi stays in LA
- Jay Belle Shhb: roasting everyone he can at the Nationals: crafting one of the greatest hobby roasts I have ever seen: calling Mike Gio the love child child of Tom Brady and Jesse Gibson.
- Giannis flip and finally the De'Aaron Fox extension
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Adz
Welcome, everybody, to episode 229 the UConn Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast, where your hosts, Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson.
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Adz
Lots happening in the league. Lots happening. Hobby shows all around the world, maybe. Just
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Russell Gibson
There's a lot going on as always.
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Adz
waiting for the next season, really. Come on.
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Russell Gibson
I'm not really waiting for the next season, man. I never feel bored. Do you know what i mean? Like there's always something happening.
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Adz
know. I'm just hyped. I'm hyped. I'm excited. Rejuvenated.
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Russell Gibson
what Why are you so excited though?
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Adz
um um um i don't know. I feel like the Lakers are back. I'm excited. That's all I got.
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Russell Gibson
I'm trying to set you up here to like get you talking about Luca within one minute of the show starting.
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Adz
See, I'm not going to bite on that. i'm i'm just it's the The Lakers overall?
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Russell Gibson
So there's nothing about the Lakers that's making you excited. is that what you're trying to tell me?
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Adz
All right. there's a there's ah There's a little bit. there's But it goes both ways.
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Russell Gibson
What?
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Adz
It's LeBron's the bronze Ready for year 63, is it?
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Russell Gibson
No one's excited about a 42-year-old man in Warmate. you know
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Adz
That's fair, yeah.
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Russell Gibson
ah don't mean that as a diss either.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fair. ah It is number 77 we all care about now in La La Land.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right. Let's quickly run through what we're going to talk about today. Some NBL news this week.
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Adz
NBL, nice.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. It's not my normal thing to start the show with, but this week it'll make sense in a couple of minutes.
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Adz
It's true. It's true. and I'm sure it will.
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Russell Gibson
We are going to talk about the dildo throwing from the WNBA, which we have not touched on, but I've found some jokes about it.
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Adz
Is there a reason we haven't touched on it?
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Russell Gibson
So
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Adz
I don't like anyway, not even gonna. Nice.
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Russell Gibson
I'll talk about that as we like, as we break it down. We're going talk about some really big players with some big cards that have just been revealed slash hit.
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Adz
yeah
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Russell Gibson
So we're we're going to talk about a Steph Curry one-of-one. We're going to talk about some Kobe's.
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Adz
i
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Russell Gibson
Last week, we spoke about the Jewel autograph logon.
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Adz
Oh, yeah, the Kobe Jordan.
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Russell Gibson
We're going to check back that again. We got a new Tyson Beck release this week. We've got a one-of-one SGA.
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Adz
Nice.
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Russell Gibson
We have got someone roasting the hell out of some of the big names from the Nationals.
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Adz
Wow.
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Russell Gibson
which I really quite enjoyed that. I had quite a giggle at that. We're going to talk about the Luca extension, the Fox extension. going to talk about Jonathan Kaminga. So yeah, we've got heaps to talk about, mate. And there's still some more after that too, but I think in true, you can't comp this style. We're not going to get through it all. So
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Adz
Probably. But look we can we can start. let Look, given that the NBL is probably closer to starting than the NBA, and we don't often talk about it, do we want to but kick things off with the NBL?
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Russell Gibson
Look, I'm not going to lie to you. This is more about Admiral Schofield than the NBL. so But yes, Admiral Schofield is coming to the NBL. For you new listeners who are out there that do not know about my Admiral Schofield obsession, this is an unverified report, what I'm saying. But I would i feel confident to say i've got I'll be in the top four biggest Admiral Schofield collections in the world.
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Russell Gibson
I know one other person who has some of the Prism 1 of ones
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Adz
Yep.
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Russell Gibson
And I know another guy who I've seen on Instagram who's got like some big, I would say some cards like equal to me, but in terms of sheer volume, I might even be like number two in the world.
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Russell Gibson
Like it's, yeah, it's possible.
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Adz
You might be, you might be the guy. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
I don't want to say number one just because, you know, I don't want to like overstate it.
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Adz
You're going to go, are you going to, going to go to some Cairns Taipans games just to, just to get some, maybe some photos?
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Russell Gibson
It's also,
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Russell Gibson
i actually have a,
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
a very excellent connection at the NBL who I was talking to today.
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Adz
You made a great.
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Russell Gibson
and it seems like it's possible I might even get a meet and greet. to excited. I'm not going to get too excited. However, i will say to you right now, my excitement level at the moment is about 9.5 out of 10.
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Adz
It's great.
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Russell Gibson
And at this stage of my life, it takes a lot for me to get excited.
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Adz
It's it's increasing.
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Russell Gibson
In fact, I would say there's not a lot that really gets me genuinely excited.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
you know I'm a happy guy, but to say that I'm excited is kind of like,
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Adz
yeah
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Adz
Get you a bit like the, the actual, the right, the, the blips that really, yeah.
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Russell Gibson
not in my normal vocabulary. Let me put it to you this way. Anyway, look, I'm fucking stoked about this. Like, I'm not going to lie to you.
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Adz
It's pretty, pretty exciting. Pretty exciting.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. So I need to start thinking about what I'm, you know, maybe going to talk to him about. Do I take my entire collection?
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Adz
An interview, an interview.
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Russell Gibson
i don't want to push my luck, but I will probably, I'll at least ask, right? I might take my collection just to show it to
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Adz
Actually, do you reckon in a meet and greet, if you've got the little pocket recorder, and and this I don't know if this will get your excitement factor, but if you could do like a little intro for us. Imagine that.
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Adz
This is Admiral Schofield and you are listening to the You Can't Comp This and NBA Trading Card Podcast.
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Russell Gibson
him.
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Russell Gibson
Oh, man.
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Adz
little couple of bumpers there for...
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Russell Gibson
That is froth-worthy for sure.
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Adz
Yes. There is another um player in the NBL, isn't there?
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think if we do move on, JaVale McGee is also coming to the NBL. Thanks. That was an excellent segue because otherwise I could have just done like 35 minutes on Admiral Schofield.
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Adz
We could have 30 minutes of Admiral Schofield talking, going through your collection.
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Russell Gibson
So all you listeners out there, send a thank you message to Adam. So yeah, McGee's coming to the NBL, which is a really interesting one because...
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Adz
How many Shacked and a Fool awards did he win?
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Russell Gibson
I'm actually a little bit...
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Russell Gibson
Look, I'm going to defend him on this. I think Shaq... Actually, Shaq gives a lot of people an unduly um hard time, frankly.
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Adz
Ha ha ha ha!
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Russell Gibson
Like, that stuff he used to do to Dwight Howard was a bit unnecessary.
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Adz
Agreed, agreed, agreed. Yeah. ah jim The early day JaVale McGee stuff was hilarious.
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Russell Gibson
Like, when he used to shoot at the wrong basket and run the wrong... Like, fair enough.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
But after that, like, you know, leave it be. Anyway...
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Adz
He made honourable mentions so often that it was just like a cameo every now and then.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Of course, JaVale threw his hat in the ring. Good sport about it, though.
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Russell Gibson
Look, so the NBA champ stuff, I can kind of take that or leave that a little bit.
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Adz
Hmm.
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Russell Gibson
so I'm not disrespecting that, but at the same time, if you're an NBA champion, it can be a little bit circumstantial.
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Adz
I
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Russell Gibson
Whereas the like the Olympic gold medalist thing, like that to me means a lot because I don't think they would have put someone into that team that didn't have a good character
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Adz
rule
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Russell Gibson
that wouldn't have played the right way, that wouldn't have played hard.
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Adz
ah like you.
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Russell Gibson
You know what i mean? Like, so yes, you can like mock this guy and you can like tease him, but like,
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Adz
That's a really good point.
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Russell Gibson
And again, that's also circumstantial too. like you know There would have been some injury problems and stuff like that. But I also think if you're getting that caliber of play that comes to the NBL, and he's also not that far away from his prime, because I think if we're being honest here, he's an elite level athlete. And I think as he gets older, that athleticism will decline.
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Russell Gibson
And if he got out of shape, you know he wouldn't be as effective.
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Adz
huh
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Russell Gibson
But I've never seen this guy out of shape ever.
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Adz
Sure.
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Russell Gibson
He's kind of one of those guys that like... either works really, really hard and or has that type of body that just like stays in shape all the time.
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Adz
Yeah, yeah.
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Adz
I think he's going to be great in the NBL.
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Russell Gibson
So my hot take on this is there must be a lot more money coming to the NBL now.
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Adz
Mm-mm.
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Russell Gibson
Because you think about how many NBA players or ex-NBA players we've now got currently league. Like it's not like one or two. there's Like we've just spoken about two in two minutes.
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Russell Gibson
Like I really wonder...
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Adz
That's true.
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Adz
Could it be a lifestyle thing though? Could it be ah just a out of the spotlight, nice holiday to Australia for a year?
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Russell Gibson
I think that is definitely part of it. But I also think too, these guys want to get paid. Like if, if they weren't getting paid, they're not coming out here to volunteer their time for a charity. Like let's also, know, you have to be quite, you know, frank about this stuff.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True. Yeah. That's true.
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Russell Gibson
They must look,
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Adz
There must be a decent deal going on. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Internationally.
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Russell Gibson
Anyway, it's good to see the NBL coming back and reviving themselves and thriving again.
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Adz
Exciting. Yeah. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
So yeah, definitely congrats to the NBL. And look, this is enough to make me actually want to go and see a bunch of games this year. I'll definitely want to see JaVale. I want to be front row, like to see Schofield.
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Adz
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. Like that would be fantastic. Speaking about being front row, um,
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Adz
Yes.
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Russell Gibson
All right, so these people have been throwing dildos onto the court at WNBA games. I've deliberately not spoken about it. I've actually been stepping around it because I think this is like the worst type of...
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Adz
hundred
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Russell Gibson
um, crap that people can do. And, you know, you can call it, yeah, like you can call it what you want.
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Adz
That's like a harassing people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Russell Gibson
You can call it, you know, toxic masculinity. You can call it in cell behavior. You can call it, you know, making a mockery of, you know, women's sports, like whatever you want to call it. Like to me, it's just like the ultimate like disrespect.
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Russell Gibson
So that's why I haven't been putting it into the run sheet.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
The reason I have put it into the run sheet this week is because two of them have been arrested.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
We've got names. We've got mug shots. We've got the whole thing. So 18-year-old Caden Lopez appeared in court. This was three days ago.
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Adz
Yep.
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Russell Gibson
um he was also accused of actually hitting someone. So this is what – so this came up on my wife's newsfeed, who, by the way, is like a – is a –
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Adz
Wow. Okay.
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Adz
Not, not a basketball aficiano.
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Russell Gibson
No, she's not, but she's a like she's a feminist. She's not like a bra-burning feminist, but at the same time too, like you know this is the type of stuff that I'm not surprised it came up into her feed. um And we were talking about it, and I was like, look, I definitely wasn't defending them, but to the best of mine my knowledge, no players actually got injured.
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Russell Gibson
So yes, while it's disrespectful and it halts the games and all the rest of it, I didn't know that someone had been injured. So the fact that this guy has now been charged for that, like that to me actually changes it around a little bit.
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Adz
Yeah, yeah.
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Adz
ah lot, yeah, for sure.
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Russell Gibson
um Then the second guy is Delbert Carver, 23-year-old guy.
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Adz
This guy.
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Russell Gibson
He was arrested.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
um Faces disorderly conduct, public indecency, and criminal trespass charges. I actually like those charges more than the charges that were put onto Caden Lopez, to be frank with you.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
So... I think for me, the best way to you know to cope with this is to say, look, you look at these mugshots. You are literally looking at incels.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
And i I found some some fantastic WNBA-related incel jokes. so why did the incel buy WNBA tickets to post a 12-paragraph rant about how the WNBA isn't as good as the NBA?
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Russell Gibson
Why did the incel protest outside a WNBA game? Because the Wi-Fi in his mom's basement went out. Why did the incel sign up for the speed dating event? He thought it was a Mario Kart tournament.
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Adz
Oh my God.
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Russell Gibson
And finally, why did the incel boot a WNBA game? Because deep down, he knows they have more game than him. So um final thoughts on incels at WNBA games, Zad.
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Adz
Look, I think the less oxygen we give them the better. Um, they're pack of oxygen thieves and, and you know what?
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Russell Gibson
incels they'll be mewing their way to their court case I suppose
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Adz
Yeah.
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Adz
Although i did I may have shared a funny WNBA dildo meme the other day. But anyway.
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Russell Gibson
I would never liked it I would have left it at that hey um do you know about how incels mew to strengthen out their jawline are you aware of this if you want to giggle you need to google this man
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Adz
No, no, I'm not.
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Adz
feel like it's a dark part of the internet that I don't want to explore, but I might. Who knows?
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Russell Gibson
Maybe some funny, funny stuff.
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Adz
goodness gracious.
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Russell Gibson
Alrighty, let's move on. i've had my I've had my laughs at incels.
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Adz
Yes.
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Russell Gibson
Card ladder, Kobe Bryant, 2018, Panini Cornerstones, downtown.
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Adz
Wow. Straight into a Kobe.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Nice. I like it.
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Russell Gibson
PSA 10, population 33. If you look at the all-time sales data, it is very much up and down, as you would expect through COVID-19. This last,
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Adz
Up through COVID, hit 10K through the the COVID crazy period, did a little bit of a jig, and then skyrocketed.
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Russell Gibson
yeah, four to 13,000. So an absolutely huge jump there.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Look, I got to say to you, i have actually no problems with this. Obviously, I'd rather purchase this at 4K than 13. I think that's, you know, any genius can work that out.
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Adz
I wish they would stay, stay at that 4k mark so I can get myself one eventually, but struggle.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. Look, I think the design on this, I think the population count, obviously, I think the PSA score is you know really important.
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Adz
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
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Russell Gibson
And I don't know if this is too early early to correlate, but I think all this stuff that's been going on with fake autographs, Mr. Man Cave, Bullpen,
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
you know, as weird as this is going to sound actually gives me a bit of security. There's not, you know, a fake patch in this or allegedly a fake patch or allegedly a fake autograph or not.
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Adz
Auto.
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Russell Gibson
Do you know what i mean?
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Like it's just sort of, it's a safe space to sort of put your cash into.
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Adz
It's just, it's just a rare card.
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Russell Gibson
So I think that's probably where I'm also lying with this a little bit of like,
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's it.
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Russell Gibson
I really think I'm drawing at strings of that, but at the same time I couldn't go past that at all.
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Adz
It's a, there's a level of safety associated with it.
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Russell Gibson
But,
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
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Russell Gibson
Where are you at with this?
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Adz
13
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Russell Gibson
Is this a buy, hold, or a sell for you at 13,000? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Adz
K I think they've jumped the gun a little bit, but i but I think this is going to be, and we we've seen it with, with Jordan cards and obviously this is a high end card obviously, but I think that the trend is going to be with collectors that if you can't get your hands on the, the, the Primo Primo stuff that those PSA 10,
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Adz
Kobe inserts are going to start just trickling up, same way Jordan did.
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Russell Gibson
yeah
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Adz
That's my view. And I just, i look, I think the Kabooms have shown that. I think the downtowns are starting to show that. um And then that will filter down to other I'm not as high on downtown as I am Kaboom.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah, definitely makes me want to look at more downtowns. i I personally don't feel as though downtowns...
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, agreed. But i don't really feel like... So my next thought was going to be like, okay, should we start looking into downtowns and try and pick some up on the cheap? But I don't actually think yeah that's not really the case.
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Adz
I don't think they're cheap.
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Russell Gibson
Like I think some of them are really up there.
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Adz
Not you anymore.
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Russell Gibson
I think in this particular one that was just showing like a massive jump. I think that's probably what we're seeing in that one there.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
Alrighty, so we're going to segue from that into another Kobe, and this is going to lead us probably after the break into our next really big card that I want to talk about today. So this is the two thousand and twelve thirteen BGS 9.5 Kobe Bryant Green.
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Adz
Interesting.
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Russell Gibson
um And I think if you're looking at this card design, you might say, well, this looks very much like the Decker. Well, obviously the Decker ripped off or reproduced this particular Prism set. So
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Russell Gibson
I really like this card. i think probably my issue with it is that
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Russell Gibson
It's not the population because it's just 13. And I think the the grade is totally fine. It's BGS 9.5. I just wonder for me if it's just like the color set. Like i wonder how much sort of further that this card can actually go up as opposed to this.
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Adz
Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's a green cause it's a green.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
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Adz
Yeah.
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Russell Gibson
As opposed to this was the silver. i think that, you know, can consistently and maybe even exponentially, you know, go up.
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Adz
You'll keep increasing. Yep.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah, whereas the green, i'm i'm kind of like oh I'm not too sure about this. So for me, this is a really interesting one because like, you know, that's yeah there wass a lot of money to go into a BGS.
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Adz
It's low pop. Yeah.
00:16:02.74
Adz
It's true. It's very true.
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Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:16:04.20
Adz
It's interesting.
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Russell Gibson
I really feel, though, that the play on this would be to try and cross it over. It's high-risk gambling, but at the same time, I think for me, that's like the obvious play.
00:16:15.79
Adz
Yeah, I think there's, um there's a level of maybe that's the card that you need to. Yeah.
00:16:23.95
Adz
Having a pa yeah PSA.
00:16:24.12
Russell Gibson
Now, I'm making some assumptions here, but it looks to me like the card is in a sleeve, so that would keep Comron from GTI cards happy, which is a good thing if we are going to try and cross it over as opposed to a card that's been sitting there ratting it rattling around in hard plastic.
00:16:25.16
Adz
Yeah,
00:16:33.56
Adz
Mm-hmm. That's true.
00:16:43.30
Adz
That's fair.
00:16:44.05
Russell Gibson
Final thoughts on this card, man, before we go to a break?
00:16:46.41
Adz
Yeah, I'm not buying it. It's green.
00:16:48.89
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:51.22
Adz
I'm a Lakers fan. I don't want to see green on my cards.
00:16:56.86
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, so let's start with Fastbreak Trading Cards. I also, or I should say, we also had a message from the guys this week and they have got some breaking news that they want to discuss on the show.
00:17:06.07
Adz
Yes.
00:17:10.48
Adz
um ah one Well, just handy that we're on the show now and we can discuss that.
00:17:17.81
Russell Gibson
is quite a coincidence really, isn't it?
00:17:19.71
Adz
It is. It is.
00:17:20.44
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:17:21.72
Adz
I believe the news is that we're...
00:17:26.70
Adz
It's a trade day, isn't it?
00:17:27.99
Russell Gibson
Correct. So everybody, please get at your calendars or open up your you Google calendar. Sunday, the 24th of August at the shop.
00:17:33.57
Adz
Google it up.
00:17:37.04
Russell Gibson
And the shop's address is 75 Tulip Street in Cheltenham.
00:17:41.09
Adz
Yep.
00:17:41.79
Russell Gibson
Opening hours on Sundays is 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. Now,
00:17:46.33
Adz
like you If you're looking for directions, don't ask Russell, I can direct you.
00:17:49.83
Russell Gibson
just get directions from Google, guys.
00:17:49.95
Adz
um
00:17:51.53
Russell Gibson
This is the safest way.
00:17:51.85
Adz
Yep. i Don't trust Russ.
00:17:52.73
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:17:53.55
Adz
No, you'll end up in Mildura.
00:17:56.63
Russell Gibson
I've never been that lost. Now, this particular date is coinciding with the new release of the Topps Chrome MBL. So huge news on that.
00:18:04.70
Adz
Yes.
00:18:05.94
Russell Gibson
Now, even bigger than that, there was Leonard Copeland is going to be dropping past to do some giveaways and do some pack wars with the kids. If you remember at the CollectFest, Leonard Copeland was at the Fastbreak Trading Cards stall, and he was very generous with his time.
00:18:18.81
Adz
It was indeed. Yep.
00:18:23.86
Russell Gibson
he did lots of photographs with people. he was very engaged with everybody. I think that if you're a dad or someone of my sort of vintage and you remember the Lenard Copeland, Andrew Gaze, Daryl McDonald battles, you know, you would really get a kick out of, yeah, you know, being in the same room as him and, you know, bringing your kids along to see that next generation sort of pass that torch along.
00:18:38.63
Adz
The dynamic duo, yeah.
00:18:42.54
Adz
Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:18:46.19
Russell Gibson
So, yeah, huge shout out to the guys.
00:18:46.90
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:18:48.27
Russell Gibson
Again, congratulations on the get. That is absolutely fantastic. I think we should also check out some of the other things they've got for sale on their website, fastbreaktradingcards.com, Fanatics Authentic Memorabilia, pre-order trading cards.
00:19:02.63
Russell Gibson
You can also do gift cards, entertainment TCG. Let's look at Pokemon. Offline today, were talking about Pokemon.
00:19:07.91
Adz
Pokemon. Sure.
00:19:10.68
Russell Gibson
All righty. Pokemon TCG Scarlet and Violet 151 Blooming Waters Premium Collection for $225. I don't know if these prices are good or bad. I'll just read out a few.
00:19:21.39
Russell Gibson
Pokemon TCG Scarlet and Violet 10.5. you know Unova Minitin for $25. Pokemon TCG Scarlet and Violet 4.5. Palladian Fates Booster Pack for $20. $20.
00:19:35.64
Russell Gibson
And the last one we will shout out here today is the Pokemon TCG Scarlet and Violet Ionos. Oh, geez. Ballybolt X Premium Collection Box for 90. So thank you so much to the lads at Fastbreak Trading Cards for your ongoing and very generous support.
00:19:57.06
Adz
And the trade day is on Kobe day as well.
00:20:00.12
Russell Gibson
Is it really?
00:20:01.27
Adz
24th of the 8th.
00:20:02.31
Russell Gibson
You'll have to wear your Kobe jersey.
00:20:04.03
Adz
I will. If it fits.
00:20:08.31
Adz
Might have to upgrade to my Luka jersey because at least that's a large. We're
00:20:16.95
Russell Gibson
And we are back.
00:20:18.68
Adz
but back.
00:20:20.60
Russell Gibson
Thank you everyone for coming back. We appreciate it. Alrighty. Now the last card we're talking about was the 2012 Kobe Bryant green BGS 9.5. We are now going to segue from that into the one of one Steph Curry that just got hit this week.
00:20:35.41
Russell Gibson
Now this is from fanatics collect. And again, i am going to hammer home the point that I was making last week that fanatics are actually promoting the hobby, whether it's their content or their cards or not.
00:20:47.31
Adz
oh
00:20:47.91
Russell Gibson
So they're promoting a Prism card here. This has definitely not been auctioned. They're just promoting the hobby. So huge shout out to them. Now, this particular card is from the Prism basketball set.
00:21:00.11
Adz
That's crazy.
00:21:01.85
Russell Gibson
The really interesting thing for me about this card is that when you first look at it, I would have just thought that's a regular regular old silver. When the guy flipped it over, it had one and one inscribed onto the back of it.
00:21:12.85
Russell Gibson
So
00:21:13.67
Adz
Wow.
00:21:15.01
Russell Gibson
Like me watching that video, he I don't think he knew it was one of one until he flipped it over. i could be wrong about that, but that's the way I perceived that.
00:21:23.33
Adz
That's pretty crazy, isn't it? a
00:21:24.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:21:27.21
Adz
Wow.
00:21:28.34
Russell Gibson
Purchased a box of $14.15 for $7.25. for two for seven twenty five Inside was a Steph Curry black prism, the only one in existence. So that can't be right because it's not the black that came out of that.
00:21:40.43
Russell Gibson
So I think the description is wrong.
00:21:41.55
Adz
It looks, well, I think that is, that but it maybe it is the black. It's just because of the the foiling, it it's got that refractor on it and because this is like, it might have been one of the earlier one-on-ones too.
00:21:59.32
Russell Gibson
You reckon that's black?
00:22:01.36
Adz
Well, the one-on-one is black, isn't it? Isn't that the point?
00:22:05.25
Russell Gibson
I thought in this set there was two one of ones and the black has already been pulled.
00:22:08.64
Adz
Oh, okay.
00:22:11.42
Russell Gibson
And now this is the second one of one out of that set.
00:22:13.87
Adz
Okay. I don't know. it does it You're right, it doesn't look black.
00:22:19.80
Adz
watching the video on repeat at the moment, just trying to.
00:22:22.37
Russell Gibson
All right. I'll tell you what. I'm relatively confident what I'm saying is correct. But if there's listeners out there that would like to set the record straight, DM us, post on one of our posts, even if it's a different post, send us an email, youcan'tcompthis at gmail.com, Instagram, Twitter, whatever you want.
00:22:32.82
Adz
Let us know, yeah, for sure.
00:22:39.78
Adz
Yeah.
00:22:41.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah, set me straight.
00:22:43.32
Adz
Let us know. It's a good card though, that's pretty crazy.
00:22:44.36
Russell Gibson
Anyway, huge card.
00:22:46.04
Adz
That's nuts.
00:22:46.05
Russell Gibson
All right. Now the follow-up question is here. What is this card worth? I think this is the fun part for us to to chew on and break this down a little bit. In the post by Fanatics Collect, they're suggesting 500,000. Mm-hmm.
00:23:02.18
Adz
I'm going to not over-hype it too much. It is a Steph Curry one of one. I'd probably say closer to Yeah.
00:23:10.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I'm down with that.
00:23:11.89
Adz
yeah
00:23:12.37
Russell Gibson
if it grades yeah.
00:23:15.45
Adz
I think it won't because I think the back of it's got a bit of a nick on it anyway. And that was looking at the video, the back of it.
00:23:22.30
Russell Gibson
I think it could go for more than 500 if it's PSA 10.
00:23:22.65
Adz
Anyway, yeah.
00:23:26.60
Adz
If it's a 10, okay.
00:23:26.62
Russell Gibson
That's my feeling.
00:23:27.78
Adz
But do do you take the risk or do you grade it authentic? Or do you get it graded if it comes back as a nine and re-grade it as authentic?
00:23:33.83
Russell Gibson
I think a card like that, when you've got I don't want to say so much money to play with, but what's the highest grading fee on PSA cards?
00:23:39.58
Adz
Yeah.
00:23:42.28
Adz
Well, you can send it in with that guarantee.
00:23:43.12
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:23:44.73
Adz
If it's not a 10, send it back.
00:23:48.38
Adz
Isn't that a thing for PSA? For a price, you can not have it come back. It's like not get graded.
00:23:54.18
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I don't know.
00:23:54.96
Adz
And then you like they're like, okay, it's not it's not a 10.
00:23:57.11
Russell Gibson
You still have to send it back in, right?
00:23:57.44
Adz
We're not going to. And then they go, oh like okay, but can you have instructions of just graded authentic if it's not a 10?
00:24:04.36
Russell Gibson
We need to talk to someone who's a professional about this.
00:24:06.17
Adz
That would be interesting. I want to know how that works.
00:24:07.42
Russell Gibson
For example, Lane.
00:24:08.53
Adz
Yeah.
00:24:09.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:24:09.41
Adz
Maybe maybe we reach out to Lane and get clarification on how that works.
00:24:12.82
Russell Gibson
ah
00:24:14.29
Adz
Cool.
00:24:15.29
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. Next one on the list is a Jason Tatum Mojo PSA 9.
00:24:20.25
Adz
he's He's lacking a lot of that at the moment given he's laid up. Poor bastard. Anyway.
00:24:25.79
Russell Gibson
So the Mojo's at 25, these, the picture of this doesn't really do the card justice in hand. These cards are absolutely amazing in hand.
00:24:33.74
Adz
Yeah.
00:24:35.49
Russell Gibson
What I thought would be interesting to do about this is actually to do a bit of a price check on Jason Tatum, because if you're looking at the pricing on this particular card, obviously it's been a long time since this card sold, but that's a, it's not a vertical line upwards, but that's sort of, it's a 45 degree angle at least.
00:24:53.48
Russell Gibson
And so,
00:24:54.30
Adz
previously sold for what 2000. Yeah, that's
00:24:56.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah, like that really surprises me, despite the fact the guys, you know, laid up that someone would spend that much money on a card, particularly at PSA 9.
00:25:04.78
Adz
yeah that's true.
00:25:07.77
Russell Gibson
yeah. Again, looking at his silver PSA that last sold for $705.
00:25:14.71
Adz
Is that on the is that ah is that holding steady or is that?
00:25:15.00
Russell Gibson
i
00:25:17.46
Adz
Okay.
00:25:17.70
Russell Gibson
So the last three months, it's plus 1%. The last six months, it's minus 5%. that's How can I say this? I think for a guy that's injured, and we've already described him as you know maybe being a bit middling or a bit undervalued, that's sort of my... We also used him as a measuring stick for the entire league.
00:25:39.02
Adz
We did, we did.
00:25:40.30
Russell Gibson
I feel like...
00:25:44.22
Adz
He's holding steady.
00:25:44.72
Russell Gibson
That's really, really good. Yeah. Really good.
00:25:48.24
Adz
Like, i mean, sure, he's down like 5%, but we we we did these the breaks, right? Like the six months, one year, like a few episodes ago. But like he's held over the last three months, he hasn't lost any value.
00:25:59.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:02.10
Adz
He's up and down a little bit, but it's not. hasn't plummeted to to half his value.
00:26:07.23
Russell Gibson
Mm.
00:26:09.45
Adz
I mean, he's pretty good player, let's be fair.
00:26:09.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah. This actually gives me a lot of confidence in Tatum. I feel like Wemby, Zion, Ja, if those guys get injured, I'm like, right. just like i'm I'm ready to get my pants pulled down and just take a massive loss, right?
00:26:21.14
Adz
Put a line through it. You're done.
00:26:22.84
Russell Gibson
Whereas like this to me is super interesting.
00:26:22.96
Adz
Yeah, yeah,
00:26:25.14
Russell Gibson
It makes me think this is even better of a buy than maybe even what I was talking about six months ago.
00:26:33.04
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:33.57
Russell Gibson
he's still protected even having a season-ending injury, wild.
00:26:33.68
Adz
I can see that.
00:26:37.85
Adz
Hmm.
00:26:38.00
Russell Gibson
that's wild
00:26:39.39
Adz
Hmm. He's young.
00:26:43.33
Russell Gibson
All right, that's another big tick for me on Jason Tatum, honestly.
00:26:47.14
Adz
Yep.
00:26:47.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:26:48.12
Adz
Yep.
00:26:48.17
Russell Gibson
All righty. Next in the list. Now, we spoke about this card last week. We're going to keep checking on it for the next couple of weeks. Actually, I won't be. I'm going to be away for the next couple of weeks. So, Adam, um'm leaving I'm leaving this with you to um to be in charge with.
00:26:57.68
Adz
Oh, my goodness. All right.
00:27:01.81
Adz
and Excellent. Okay. Oh, I've got well, actually, I've yeah i've got I've got a way to do it. Good. Yep.
00:27:07.25
Russell Gibson
Just copy and paste the link, man. It'll be all good. You got this.
00:27:09.32
Adz
but
00:27:10.38
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:27:10.60
Adz
Yep. Easy.
00:27:13.15
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. It's currently bidding $4.15 million. dollars Yeah, with the buyer's premium, that takes it up to $5.063 million.
00:27:17.35
Adz
Wow. Is that US? s How crazy is this?
00:27:25.22
Russell Gibson
That is a juicy, juicy buyer's premium, isn't it?
00:27:31.02
Russell Gibson
That is...
00:27:32.61
Adz
$4.1 million.
00:27:32.99
Russell Gibson
That's a wild buyer's premium. Alrighty. Anyway, so it's already at $5 million. Already at $5 million. bucks We were talking last week saying, you know, we think it's going to be around that sort of $5 million dollars mark. I think we need to, we clearly need to revisit this again.
00:27:45.42
Adz
It's going up.
00:27:45.66
Russell Gibson
So so what's that?
00:27:46.31
Adz
It's going up.
00:27:47.74
Russell Gibson
wait Can you at least say it's going to double in two weeks?
00:27:51.15
Adz
Nah. Nah. I think we're What was it last time?
00:27:55.10
Russell Gibson
So last time we looked at it, was it two in a week?
00:27:57.15
Adz
Okay. So it has doubled.
00:28:00.12
Russell Gibson
Why can't it double again?
00:28:00.62
Adz
Yeah, but I think we're getting to the race. i Look, I feel like it at this point we're we're starting to get to the pointy end. But yeah. Okay.
00:28:07.90
Russell Gibson
I don't think so, man. I i feel like for me, the pointy end is like the day before or the day that the auction ends.
00:28:14.21
Adz
so you reckon So where do you reckon this is?
00:28:14.37
Russell Gibson
i
00:28:16.45
Adz
$8 million? yeah Doing
00:28:18.49
Russell Gibson
I think if we've still got two weeks to go, like, why not?
00:28:20.58
Adz
a $10 million dollars card.
00:28:22.41
Russell Gibson
But why not? If we've still got two weeks to go...
00:28:25.00
Adz
Actually, you're right. You know what? If any card is going to be $10 million, dollars it's two of the greatest players of all time. One and two, Kobe and Jordan.
00:28:31.15
Russell Gibson
at least one of the...
00:28:33.62
Adz
In that order. No.
00:28:38.01
Russell Gibson
Can you imagine if Jordan ah played for the Lakers, how good of a basketball player he would have been?
00:28:43.32
Adz
Pretty crazy, isn't it?
00:28:47.76
Adz
Oh, goodness.
00:28:48.05
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. I'm saying about eight. What are you saying now?
00:28:51.53
Adz
I reckon it'll be lucky if it hit seven. so Six and a half to seven.
00:28:54.70
Russell Gibson
like Okay. Cool. Cool. Well, when we come back, we can.
00:28:58.82
Adz
Well, funnily enough, it ends the day before Kobe Bryant Day. 13 days.
00:29:03.96
Russell Gibson
And that also must be the day before fast break trading cards have their trade day.
00:29:04.54
Adz
That's it. So someone at Fastbreak will come in and guess what I bought yesterday?
00:29:14.89
Adz
wonder if Leonard Copeland's in the market for Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, auto. Hell of a story to tell.
00:29:22.13
Russell Gibson
It is. All righty. This next one is from Tyson Beck. Introducing the game-worn collection. In an industry full of patches not associated to the player you collect, it's overdue for some transparency. Who do you think he's making a dig out there?
00:29:40.09
Russell Gibson
Collect history and know the game the player wore the jersey in. Giannis X Tyson Beck. All righty. So basically what Tyson has done is purchased game-worn jerseys.
00:29:51.31
Adz
Got it.
00:29:53.90
Adz
Off Yannis.
00:29:55.90
Russell Gibson
And then on each card, it actually details what game it was, the statistics he had in the game. Some of the patches in this look really good. It's got the laundry tag. It's got the Jordan Jumpman logo.
00:30:09.00
Adz
Wow.
00:30:09.06
Russell Gibson
He's cut off the deer face off the logo from the Bucks.
00:30:10.38
Adz
Well, it's got it on the, look at that, 128, 22. So you know which, oh, wow. Game info stats provided on the card, the connect to the game to the patch it was worn in.
00:30:24.35
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:30:25.90
Adz
Wow.
00:30:28.24
Russell Gibson
So my only... Okay, so putting aside what he's done here, this is like 10 out of 10. He's doing it the right way. Like, no no jokes about that. I think... And I'm saying this in a kind way too. Like, this is not criticism. But I think if you're doing stuff on a lower so at a smaller scale...
00:30:45.12
Russell Gibson
Because whatever Tyson is doing, and he's obviously doing a lot, Penny would do ah thousand times more. Do you know what i mean So I think someone doing it at the scale that Tyson is doing, this is a perfect thing.
00:30:56.79
Russell Gibson
You can buy one or two jerseys. You know exactly what it is. You can make the card to it. like That's actually look it's ingenious, really, what he's done.
00:31:06.47
Russell Gibson
My only takeaway, it's it's insanely brilliant.
00:31:06.60
Adz
I think it's brilliant.
00:31:09.00
Russell Gibson
this Yeah, that's, no, definitely not a criticism, more just like an observation. My only slight criticism though, so look at that one where it's like the photo is going over his shoulder and Giannis is signing the cards.
00:31:13.21
Adz
and
00:31:21.77
Russell Gibson
That to me looks like a Cornerstones card. Whether he did that on purpose as like a tribute
00:31:29.48
Adz
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:31.04
Russell Gibson
or it's modified enough so that it's not a Cornerstones card,
00:31:31.10
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:31:36.41
Russell Gibson
Other than that, they look amazing. And I would actually put them to the level of like a a really well done, like flawless card.
00:31:43.12
Adz
He's also doing the Quad brother Brothers auto with all of it, all of his, the Antetokounmpo family.
00:31:44.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:31:50.69
Russell Gibson
Is that collectible?
00:31:53.49
Adz
Well, Giannis is collectible, therefore the whole family one's collectible. It's just like Bronny James. Do you know what i mean? Like a dual auto Bron and Bronny. if People aren't buying it for Bronny.
00:32:05.54
Russell Gibson
No, I just think that like, just say I had $500 to spend on this and I'm probably, I could be wrong with my numbers here. So like, just take out the numbers for two seconds.
00:32:15.84
Russell Gibson
I'm like, look, I could get either a patch autograph or I could get the four Giannis brothers autos. Like, yeah,
00:32:23.01
Adz
Yeah, but if you're a Giannis collector, like this is an Antetokounmpo. It's a unique piece.
00:32:28.26
Russell Gibson
it's extremely unique.
00:32:29.68
Adz
Yeah.
00:32:30.21
Russell Gibson
Extremely.
00:32:31.73
Adz
Yeah.
00:32:31.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah. No, it's a really good idea. Definitely.
00:32:35.32
Adz
I like it. i think I think it's different. But it it's great that Tyson's done it, and I think that's awesome. I think it's disappointing that the the powers that be...
00:32:47.38
Adz
in the in the yeah the big boy world, and being Panini and Fanatics, haven't sort of moved things forward and listened to the people with regards to on, like actual jerseys from actual games.
00:33:06.31
Russell Gibson
Oh,
00:33:08.05
Adz
Because cause that's one of the complaints that the greater communities had.
00:33:12.19
Russell Gibson
for sure.
00:33:12.92
Adz
Like we've been we've we've been screaming out about it, going, you know what, look at the back of it. and it's like, oh, some cleaner picked this up off the floor and an NBA player has never touched it. Who gives a crap?
00:33:23.09
Russell Gibson
He's definitely been reading.
00:33:23.95
Adz
Versus this is, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:33:24.88
Russell Gibson
He's read the room. He's read the room. Yeah.
00:33:27.96
Adz
For sure. um Yeah, it's disappointing that the that there are others that haven't, but it's it's for not it's fantastic that um but Tyson has.
00:33:28.79
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Nailed it.
00:33:37.41
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I liked his little dig at Panini there too, by the way. That was nicely played, Tyson. Good job.
00:33:45.19
Adz
I like it.
00:33:45.92
Russell Gibson
All right. Let's go to our next break.
00:33:49.25
Russell Gibson
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00:34:14.63
Russell Gibson
Now, Really quickly, let's go through the singles category. So click on the singles categories there.
00:34:20.42
Adz
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:34:20.90
Russell Gibson
Ross has got all of his cards sorted out in a very OCD type fashion, which also helps you locate the cards that you're looking for. If you'd like to submit your cards to Ross, he has a consignment sales service.
00:34:33.36
Russell Gibson
Check out my cards, Australia, click on that, and then check out my cards, submission, click on that, right on that form. You can't comp this anywhere on this on the sleeve, on the form, whatever, you get a free submission done. That's the offer that Ross is currently offering.
00:34:48.68
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. I want to look at hobby boxes that Ross has got for sale.
00:34:52.33
Adz
Hobby boxes. Okay, let's go.
00:34:53.95
Russell Gibson
Let's go down to NBA. All right. He's got the hanger packs from Prism 21, 22. They're $31.
00:35:01.69
Adz
Nice.
00:35:02.52
Russell Gibson
I haven't, I have ripped a lot of these in my time. It's been a little while. That could just be an inflationary type thing. 23, 24 select hobby basketball, Retail box, Prism for That's a fun rip.
00:35:17.81
Adz
Nice.
00:35:21.73
Adz
Nice.
00:35:22.33
Russell Gibson
We've done a couple of those.
00:35:22.60
Adz
Yeah, they're a very fun rip. Enjoyable. Very enjoyable.
00:35:26.05
Russell Gibson
twenty one twenty two mosaic blaster box was seventy seven fifty five that's a very weird price ro us but we'll take it and then the
00:35:34.68
Adz
It's nice. Good year too.
00:35:36.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:35:37.36
Adz
Good vintage.
00:35:38.26
Russell Gibson
The $24.25 retail pack. So if you're looking to buy something on a slightly smaller budget, they're for $9.99.
00:35:45.59
Adz
There's
00:35:46.67
Russell Gibson
nineteen nine cent
00:35:49.22
Adz
a fair bit there. Check it out.
00:35:51.71
Russell Gibson
Ross has been stockpiling for quite a while, I must say that.
00:35:54.44
Adz
The 21-22 stuff really intrigues me just because it's Cade's year and Cade had a massive season last year.
00:36:04.40
Russell Gibson
Well, in that case, on the second page, he's got 2122 Panini Prism multi-pack box, sealed box for $2.66.
00:36:15.92
Russell Gibson
I'm sure Russ will give you a discount if you um ask him, man.
00:36:16.46
Adz
Excitement.
00:36:19.12
Adz
I like it. I like it a lot. I've also got Revolution.
00:36:20.67
Russell Gibson
Are
00:36:22.48
Adz
That's Chinese New Year. Nah. I'll go with Prism.
00:36:27.77
Adz
I do like a good Revo rip.
00:36:30.57
Russell Gibson
you going to tell all the peeps about your Reverrip today?
00:36:33.33
Adz
I did. I bought it. I bought it. actually got, I bought one of the blasters, the new blasters and thought it was fun. It was like 60 bucks. I went down at one of the local stores and it was nice because I got a, well, I got a Luca, but he's in a Mavericks jersey. So whatever.
00:36:48.71
Adz
Um, but I was like, oh, that's an Astro. That's kind of cool. And then I didn't realize that when I looked at it, so it was the, um, the Astro and then I'm looking the back and I'm like, oh, it's actually got numbers on it.
00:37:02.87
Adz
It's actually numbered 299.
00:37:04.56
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I didn't realize the Astros were numbered.
00:37:06.45
Adz
no, no, not all of them. So I've got another Astro and a rookie. Is that Baylor? Yep, what? Schimerman. And that's an Astro, but that's not numbered.
00:37:18.38
Adz
But this SGA is numbered to $299. So I think it's a retail of retail exclusive kind of thing.
00:37:21.84
Russell Gibson
That's weird that some Astros are numbered and some aren't.
00:37:27.47
Russell Gibson
A retail Astro.
00:37:27.58
Adz
because i've got Yeah, well, because I've got a Bradley Beal Astro and I've got the SGA. And the SGA has got a red trim to it. But maybe that's an OKC thing.
00:37:37.99
Adz
I don't know. I'm confused. i've I haven't bought Revo in a while, but they're very shiny and pretty cards.
00:37:40.94
Russell Gibson
It's like the most pinini thing you could do really, isn't it
00:37:44.71
Adz
is is make a different type of variation that has a variation within the variation.
00:37:50.61
Russell Gibson
it?
00:37:50.73
Adz
So yeah.
00:37:51.50
Russell Gibson
And not explain it to everyone to anyone?
00:37:53.57
Adz
And then they just call it an exclusive and then everyone just looks really confused and going, okay, sure. Why not? But it also said horizontal kabooms. So that's, that's, that's why i yeah, that's, that's why I actually, um I grabbed it and said, you know what, why not?
00:38:04.13
Russell Gibson
Right. That's the chase out of those retail boxes. Yeah.
00:38:09.82
Russell Gibson
Took the dip. Yeah.
00:38:11.90
Adz
One in 30 or 40 boxes chance of getting one.
00:38:15.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's tough, yeah.
00:38:16.52
Adz
Probably even more, let's be fair. But it was a bit of fun. Nice little rip and I've got an SGA. It was nice. Good, yeah. Good segue.
00:38:25.16
Russell Gibson
Excellent segue.
00:38:26.28
Adz
But 21-22 is where I'm at.
00:38:26.77
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. Let's go for a break.
00:38:30.28
Adz
We just had one.
00:38:33.53
Russell Gibson
We didn't come back.
00:38:35.63
Adz
Oh, yeah.
00:38:37.11
Russell Gibson
I'll just let you keep going.
00:38:37.61
Adz
We're sort of back. We're back.
00:38:39.47
Russell Gibson
I'll just say, I'll just i'll be like, hey, we're back.
00:38:40.57
Adz
se what We within the break.
00:38:41.14
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:38:44.84
Russell Gibson
And we are back. Adam, did you get your segue off your chest?
00:38:49.07
Adz
I've got my segway within a segway off my chest.
00:38:51.70
Russell Gibson
That's right. Yeah.
00:38:53.17
Adz
It's like the the Panini Inception booster pack.
00:39:00.54
Adz
Fanatics, if you're listening, a new set called Inception, and there are parallels within parallels.
00:39:00.59
Russell Gibson
Alrighty.
00:39:10.58
Adz
an ideas man. I've got this.
00:39:12.41
Russell Gibson
Hasn't Topps made a set called Inception?
00:39:15.13
Adz
Maybe if they haven't
00:39:19.06
Russell Gibson
Maybe we should reach out to tops.
00:39:21.32
Adz
got some ideas.
00:39:24.67
Russell Gibson
all Alrighty. This card's for me. Not going lie to you. I put this in just because it would basically please me. So this is from our friends again at card letter 2018 SGA black mosaic. One one PSA 10. sga black mosaic one of one piece a ten
00:39:40.78
Russell Gibson
For those at home who haven't been aware of this, I really love Mosaic. This is something about it, particularly the early Mosaic. So like the 16, 17, 17, 18, 18, 19. For me, that's just my era.
00:39:54.00
Russell Gibson
I really, really like this card. I think the photography is fantastic. I think the design is great. The black just absolutely pops. And to top it off with the PSA 10 at 46,000. This is just my own bias here, but I think this is way too cheap.
00:40:11.08
Adz
I can't believe I'm going to say this. I agree.
00:40:13.71
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:40:14.10
Adz
Because we all know how much I love SGA, right?
00:40:18.01
Adz
Yeah, that that should be twice that price. It's a PSA no way this is less than twenty k
00:40:22.87
Russell Gibson
You know, the funny thing that I feel like maybe 12 months ago, this would have been like um five or $10,000 card.
00:40:32.60
Russell Gibson
I think 12 months ago, because you look at the,
00:40:34.70
Adz
12 months ago, SGA is great, but Jalen Brunson's rookie card, you I know it's Prism, but sold for a, like a Brandon Miller one of one sold for 20 grand.
00:40:49.27
Adz
This guy's won an MVP.
00:40:51.60
Russell Gibson
So in March 25, SGA was selling, this is silver PSA 10, was selling for like $750.
00:40:54.99
Adz
Yeah.
00:41:01.21
Adz
Yep.
00:41:01.58
Russell Gibson
He was selling for $650 in January. And he was peak he was peaking
00:41:07.16
Adz
Oh, got a good point. got a point.
00:41:10.38
Russell Gibson
in April at $1,500. He's actually come right down.
00:41:12.61
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:41:13.86
Russell Gibson
This is a good time, actually, probably check back in on SGA. His last sale was $870.
00:41:19.60
Russell Gibson
So what's that, like a 30% increase? Actually, no. So maybe, yeah, maybe actually I'm a bit, I'm overestimating here how low this card would have been. But I really think like sometimes timing your sales is everything.
00:41:39.51
Adz
Yeah.
00:41:39.54
Russell Gibson
And I think the person who sold this card has done a really good job at selling this at the right time. Because yeah, honestly, even if it was $10,000 less a year ago, let's let's just say that conservatively.
00:41:51.42
Adz
Fair.
00:41:51.54
Russell Gibson
That's a really it's a really big kicker upwards. All right, let's go to SGA Silvers because this is actually interesting.
00:41:57.12
Adz
Yeah, I'm curious.
00:41:57.48
Russell Gibson
All right, so one year ago, his plus 35%.
00:41:58.92
Adz
Okay.
00:42:00.55
Russell Gibson
thirty five percent In the last six months, plus 6%. The last three months, he is down 23%.
00:42:06.61
Adz
right
00:42:08.78
Russell Gibson
twenty three percent The last month, he's down 13%. All right, this is very interesting. I want to go back to the last three months. This is what I'm most interested in, that really big dip down.
00:42:20.95
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:42:23.24
Russell Gibson
So what does this mean? This means that the SGA was a bubble that has basically burst and that people were jumping onto the hype train, timing the sales to be out around the NBA finals.
00:42:36.73
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:42:37.40
Russell Gibson
And I feel like...
00:42:40.53
Russell Gibson
I was really torn on this in that I was like, this is too much.
00:42:42.75
Adz
Mm-hmm.
00:42:44.60
Russell Gibson
This has gone too fast. Then my mindset turned around. i'm like, actually, I'm starting to get convinced by this. um Thank goodness I didn't jump onto the SGA train.
00:42:56.03
Russell Gibson
All right. So let's do it again. $870, this is a buy, sell you
00:43:03.72
Adz
Oh, that's an interesting one. i think I think it's the right price now. It's a hold.
00:43:10.53
Adz
I would hold at that. i think it all I think depending how he goes next season, um my view is the best chance he's got is coming third in the MVP race behind runner-up Nikola Jokic and Luka Doncic winning the MVP. But
00:43:29.58
Adz
I think, look, I think he's got to put in another great season. And if he doesn't, then I think that's probably might be overvalued. i don't know. That 800 to 900 seems fair for him at the moment.
00:43:41.71
Adz
High side, but it's come back down to earth.
00:43:45.85
Russell Gibson
The population I think is, it's a little bit high, but I don't think it's outrageous. It's 697. Let's just round it up to 700. Yeah. So I think if we are believing that the current theory is that people are timing their sales to get off, the regular season starts on October 21, which is basically two months away, two months and a half.
00:44:11.51
Adz
Yeah.
00:44:11.75
Russell Gibson
that makes me think that this is going to slide down a little bit more. and if that is the current working theory, yeah but there's no reason why you can't buy this as it goes back down because it will then come back.
00:44:18.50
Adz
It'll be a Tatum card.
00:44:25.94
Adz
Sure, you buy you buy it at that 700 and watch it rise through the season.
00:44:27.06
Russell Gibson
It'll now come back up again as the season goes on.
00:44:29.78
Adz
Yeah, okay.
00:44:31.22
Russell Gibson
like I think that's a very then reasonable conclusion to come to.
00:44:38.49
Russell Gibson
There's just some people in the league who are volatile. And I think we saw that with Tyrese Halliburton. We've seen that with Darren Fox. Jason Tatum is not volatile.
00:44:49.99
Russell Gibson
There's some people that are just very up and down.
00:44:50.09
Adz
Yeah.
00:44:52.61
Adz
Yeah.
00:44:52.77
Russell Gibson
I'm a little bit surprised that Shay, this has happened. But at the same time, that was definitely a risk of it because that card rose so steeply. Like two years ago, this was a $400 card.
00:45:03.25
Adz
yeah
00:45:09.09
Adz
Yeah. I mean, it rose very steeply. Now it's sort of settled. And I think we've, we've gauged that that that $800 to $1,000 mark is probably we where superstars sit as ah as a rule?
00:45:23.80
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:45:24.83
Adz
Because you've got Tatum injured and sitting at the $700 mark. You've seen the rise of K. You've seen sort of Luka peak a little bit with LA, but I still reckon it might be worth checking in on him soon. But do you know what I mean?
00:45:36.86
Adz
Like I think $800 might be the the star prism rookie.
00:45:37.33
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:42.88
Russell Gibson
i mean, looking.
00:45:42.90
Adz
I mean, it's pop count dependent.
00:45:46.08
Russell Gibson
The pop count's fine. 700 in today's age, I think that's it's okay. That's nothing to be too concerned about.
00:45:52.26
Adz
Yeah.
00:45:53.36
Russell Gibson
Especially when we've got some talk of Wemby's going to 1,000, right? Well, sorry, 10,000.
00:46:00.15
Adz
Well, the pop count. Yeah, yeah. Well.
00:46:04.23
Russell Gibson
Look, I think that looking at this two-year graph, 800 almost seems in the middle of the bottom and and the peak there. So... Maybe that's that's pretty reasonable for him, 800. Yeah. All
00:46:16.90
Adz
Yeah, true, true.
00:46:19.30
Russell Gibson
all right, let's move on. Let's do one more. We'll go for a break and then we'll try and finish up.
00:46:24.03
Adz
I like it. I like it.
00:46:26.12
Russell Gibson
Let's do the Luka extension. Let's move the sheet around a little bit. All right, let's do your boy because this is a nice little comp.
00:46:29.75
Adz
Oh.
00:46:32.85
Adz
My new boy. My boy. It sounds so weird.
00:46:34.80
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:46:36.61
Adz
But I've drank the Kool-Aid.
00:46:37.10
Russell Gibson
Okay.
00:46:37.85
Adz
I'm on board. I am on board.
00:46:38.69
Russell Gibson
Matt, you've drunk the Kool-Aid and bought a jersey, so let's like let's just keep it.
00:46:41.54
Adz
I went hunting for another jersey.
00:46:42.52
Russell Gibson
yeah This is from The Score. Luka Doncic announces he signed a three-year max extension with the Lakers. It's just the beginning for Luka in LA. I'm sure the Dallas Mavericks are really happy they don't have to pay this guy the money.
00:46:55.42
Russell Gibson
Oh, hey, I heard a um i had a conspiracy theory about the Mavericks and why they traded him.
00:47:02.38
Adz
Yeah.
00:47:03.26
Russell Gibson
So the lady that bought the team, we spoke about this. She is a casino money from Vegas.
00:47:08.72
Adz
here
00:47:09.62
Russell Gibson
The city didn't let her build a casino in Dallas. They said it's against like this the local laws. You can't do that. Then she's like, fine, I'm going to move the team from Dallas to Vegas.
00:47:16.83
Adz
Yeah.
00:47:21.57
Russell Gibson
And again, she got blocked on that.
00:47:26.02
Russell Gibson
I didn't know that the city could do that to an NBA owner, but apparently that's what happened.
00:47:30.16
Adz
It seems a bit weird.
00:47:31.64
Russell Gibson
So she was like middle figures in the air. F you guys all. You're not going let me build a casino here. You're not going to let me move the team away.
00:47:37.17
Adz
Yeah.
00:47:38.88
Russell Gibson
I'm going to get rid of your boy. Trade in my way the next day.
00:47:42.53
Adz
Wow.
00:47:44.26
Russell Gibson
That was on Insta.
00:47:45.54
Adz
Do you know the funnier part about this? the The Mavericks are paying Anthony Davis more than we're paying, lu the Lakers are paying Luka Dantic.
00:47:55.15
Russell Gibson
Oh, that's tasty. mean, he is the better defensive player though. Like that's obviously why.
00:47:59.92
Adz
Yeah, but you need 82 games out your superstars, not 18. Yeah.
00:48:06.17
Russell Gibson
All right. You break down Luca's card value. I'll find some more information about the contract that I wanted to talk about.
00:48:14.16
Adz
Fair.
00:48:14.46
Russell Gibson
And then, yep.
00:48:15.68
Adz
So let's go into Luca Dantage. Where is it? to thousand and 2018 Prism. i haven't I haven't done a check-in on this for a little while.
00:48:27.18
Adz
So I do want ah want to say he is looking rather ah rather slim in that in that contract signing.
00:48:33.59
Russell Gibson
Oh, he is looking.
00:48:36.02
Adz
So I got some numbers, and this is because he obviously is playing in the ah's playing for his home country, playing for Selenia in, is it the Euro Championships or the World Championships something anyway?
00:48:48.05
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:48:48.22
Adz
um He's dropped 15 kilos. He's 31 pounds or something, 14 or 15 kilos. he He's really, he's in shape. And on that, I do think that Luka is...
00:49:04.49
Adz
25, 20, just turned 26, was it?
00:49:07.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:49:07.97
Adz
So he's still fairly young and he is in the shape of his life. So don't know. Barring an injury, i think watch out, watch out, Lee. Here comes Luka.
00:49:20.44
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think he's in for a massive year this year.
00:49:22.98
Adz
And I think he's hungry for it. He's been very steady in the last ah month. Let's look at the last six months. he's been There was a bit of a dip. But Luka is holding strong at um last sold $1,375.
00:49:41.98
Adz
And the pop on that is almost $2,400. So four times the SGA pop and still holding strong at $1,300 odd.
00:49:48.13
Russell Gibson
Yep.
00:49:54.52
Adz
I think that's... um I don't know. now that Now that the contract extension's been signed and there's a bit of... um the fears have sort of been put to rest, especially with all the talk about the way the Lakers are structured.
00:50:05.34
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:50:08.68
Adz
um
00:50:11.21
Adz
Rich Paul's come out and been like, you realize that LeBron James has a no trade clause. So I don't know why everyone's talking about trades. So unless LeBron wants to go, i think it was just the media trying to, trying to concoct some stuff.
00:50:19.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah, was going to say, that I think LeBron will orchestrate the trade.
00:50:24.09
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yep.
00:50:27.05
Russell Gibson
Notes on the contract, it's two plus one.
00:50:28.40
Adz
Yep.
00:50:30.87
Russell Gibson
Now that plus one is a player option. Basically, the plan is he will decline that and then sign the super duper max and become the highest paid player in the league.
00:50:39.51
Adz
Paid ever. Yeah.
00:50:40.63
Russell Gibson
So yeah, that's right. And so that's the that's the play on that there that has sort of been...
00:50:44.36
Adz
Isn't that worth like 480 million or something crazy?
00:50:46.78
Russell Gibson
It has been touched on, but also I don't feel like that's been highlighted and enough. and It's like a strategic extension.
00:50:50.89
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:52.34
Russell Gibson
So, you know.
00:50:53.47
Adz
It also seems to to coincide just perfectly with lining up with Nikola Jokic.
00:51:00.53
Russell Gibson
You can do all the the wishing you want, my friend. ah
00:51:07.06
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. let's Let's go for a break and then we'll we'll come in and finish this bad boy off.
00:51:16.62
Russell Gibson
And we are back. Adam, how are you doing, buddy?
00:51:18.39
Adz
We're back. I'm great. I'm just trying to – you said I can wish all I want. so I've been thinking about wishes. And my other wish is we're going to car coral we're gonna have Luka at the point. We've got Jokic at the five. And I reckon Paolo will just fit right in the middle.
00:51:32.83
Adz
What do you reckon? That's a big three. Paolo Vanchero. If I'm wishing, I may as well wish big, right?
00:51:36.41
Russell Gibson
No way, man.
00:51:39.36
Adz
Not the first time we've taken an Orlando number one pick.
00:51:39.44
Russell Gibson
No way.
00:51:42.57
Russell Gibson
Oh, I see what you're trying to do there. I don't think you could physically get those three guys on the cap unless they all took massive discounts.
00:51:51.07
Adz
says This is the Lakers we're talking about.
00:51:53.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's true.
00:51:54.07
Adz
They make stuff happen.
00:51:54.41
Russell Gibson
If someone could do it. I still think that's um that's some high-end wizardry.
00:51:59.24
Adz
Wishful thinking. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
00:52:00.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:52:03.15
Russell Gibson
ah So the Nationals in the US is currently on friend of the podcast, Lane Pierce and his company, The Hobby AUS. So follow them on Instagram, posted a picture of our nemesis, Jeff Wilson at their table doing a deal.
00:52:20.15
Russell Gibson
And ah Jeff actually put that on his socials that he did the deal with them and and bought a rare $25,000 set off them. So congrats to the guys.
00:52:29.10
Adz
Very nice. Very nice.
00:52:31.37
Russell Gibson
It's a huge deal. Huge, huge deal for them and also getting to meet one of the, you know, the big boys of the hobby.
00:52:42.99
Adz
Very, very cool.
00:52:44.85
Russell Gibson
Right. Now this next one, i can't say that this is reporting because this particular Instagram account, i' I'll tell you it so you can go and look at it. If you don't follow this guy, you should. He's very, very entertaining.
00:52:56.98
Russell Gibson
I would also say be very careful. um He's had to do a few redactions recently. So where I'm going with that is that he sometimes can try and draw lines and and join them together, but it might not always be factual.
00:53:13.77
Russell Gibson
So whilst i I do think sometimes what he says is is truthful and and it is accurate, some to I take this more as an entertainment account.
00:53:13.94
Adz
hu
00:53:21.86
Russell Gibson
And he's a funny guy. So, you know,
00:53:23.96
Adz
It's like Lameem James.
00:53:26.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but kind of like, yeah, more roasting.
00:53:27.94
Adz
A bit more of a roasty page.
00:53:30.70
Russell Gibson
So it's Rob Livingston is his name. His handle is
00:53:39.33
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:42.70
Adz
Yeah.
00:53:46.50
Russell Gibson
um the first few words of the description has had to get this out of my system i've had a little bit of trouble finding this post But um yeah, anyway, look, he he roasted a whole bunch of them. Go and watch the video. I'm not going to try and retell the jokes. However, at the very end, he made a joke about Mike Gio being the love child of Tom Brady and Jesse Gibson.
00:54:07.68
Adz
Oh,
00:54:09.43
Russell Gibson
And I have been giggling about this joke basically all week. So like, well played to you, sir.
00:54:15.39
Adz
goodness gracious.
00:54:15.98
Russell Gibson
um That is some funny shit there. um Anyway, look, he loves calling people out and just trying to highlight the tomfoolery that they get up to.
00:54:24.73
Adz
That's fine. It's good. It's good look. Good to see. I feel like the hobby is getting a lot of love at the moment. um It was good. the The attendance at the National was up. People are attending card shows in record numbers. There's deals getting done everywhere.
00:54:40.40
Adz
People are interested in in collecting.
00:54:43.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah, definitely.
00:54:43.95
Adz
i think that I think across the board, it's fantastic.
00:54:48.29
Russell Gibson
We were talking about this at dinner the other night and there was also some sort of online commentary about this saying basically that the national isn't really for kids collectors anymore. This is for like high end, high volume, you know, the big boys going to be going there.
00:54:58.94
Adz
It's a big boys.
00:55:02.14
Adz
yeah
00:55:02.27
Russell Gibson
So I think, My plan is to go to the US and you know go to a card show one day. And probably my plan would be go say go to Cleveland because I've heard really good things about that. you know You've got the scale. It's just this, you'll never get to look at all the cards that's on offer there.
00:55:18.26
Russell Gibson
But you've still got the guys there selling the $5 cards, the $10 cards, the $100 cards. It's not all $1,000 plus. Yeah.
00:55:24.54
Russell Gibson
ah thousand dollars plus
00:55:25.25
Adz
and It's not Wales. It's not Wales.
00:55:26.75
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:55:27.61
Adz
It's yeah.
00:55:27.79
Russell Gibson
And I know my place in the world. You know, I know that I'm not going to be rolling with the big boys and, you know, doing million dollar deals. and And like, I'm totally fine with that. But I think, I think I also sort of know my place in the world too.
00:55:36.24
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:55:40.96
Russell Gibson
And I feel like I would not go to the national, probably for that exact reason, what people have brought up with that. It's like,
00:55:47.91
Adz
Yeah.
00:55:49.12
Russell Gibson
I find that a little bit interesting too, that you talk about this in terms of like, you know, the health of the hobby and the future of the hobby.
00:55:55.20
Adz
Yeah.
00:55:55.71
Russell Gibson
How do you bring in the next group of people when it's all like 45 year old, 50 year old, you know, man, i was going to say boomers, but that's not the right thing to say, is it?
00:56:01.39
Adz
Big deals and and giants.
00:56:08.85
Adz
No, no, no.
00:56:08.99
Russell Gibson
Like,
00:56:09.47
Adz
I, I'm.
00:56:10.22
Russell Gibson
um yeah. So I think that's for me, it's a bit of a conundrum almost like, do they need to have a high end national and the low end national?
00:56:12.74
Adz
but
00:56:15.72
Adz
I look.
00:56:18.33
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:56:19.40
Adz
The national can be the grail. um And I think it'd be an experience as a child with you going with your parent to the national. What I, what I think is it it's the, it's the job of the hobby to create that environment.
00:56:32.76
Adz
And that is with smaller card shows, um trade days at local stores, those things.
00:56:38.65
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:56:38.87
Adz
And, and I'll definitely, i want to shout out to the boys at at fast break. They're, What they do for the hobby at a grassroots level, I think, is phenomenal work.
00:56:47.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah, 100%. Yeah,
00:56:49.14
Adz
and And for me, that's the important side of it. Do you know what mean? Like that that small experience, um so those cards, getting their favorite player, getting a couple of cards, it might be $5 for a little Kobe or something, for a small Kobe.
00:56:53.78
Russell Gibson
yeah. hundred a percent
00:57:05.73
Adz
It might be a base Kobe.
00:57:07.38
Russell Gibson
yeah yeah
00:57:08.48
Adz
But to to a child, that's like their first hobby experience. They go, oh, my God, I've got a Kobe Bryant. It doesn't have to be a Kobe Kaboom worth $20,000. It
00:57:18.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:57:20.15
Adz
can be a Hoops Kobe. It's got Kobe on it. There's a big difference that when you're 12 years old. and And I think it's about creating those memories in the hobby. and And it's about the the experiences are different ah at the younger age.
00:57:29.20
Russell Gibson
and Yeah.
00:57:34.41
Adz
And I'm ah i'm not saying like 10 to 12 years old. I'm talking through your teens, in your 20s. Like it's it's different.
00:57:41.53
Russell Gibson
yeah
00:57:42.99
Adz
And I think the experience is is where is where the community that sense of community is formed, where people are like, oh, hey, you haven't got, who do you collect? They don't have to be the biggest cards in the world.
00:57:56.14
Russell Gibson
I kind of get what they're doing. Like you want to like set a baseline and create this huge experience for people. But I also do think that's a really, that's something they're going have to unpack at some point of like, whether they put money into lower end shows or they put money into card shops, you know, doing trade days, even if tops sponsors them, something like that, like that.
00:58:03.39
Adz
Yeah.
00:58:05.78
Adz
ah They need to support it. At some point, there needs to be support for...
00:58:11.91
Adz
Sure.
00:58:15.58
Adz
I agree. Yep. ye I do.
00:58:18.31
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:58:19.77
Adz
And and i'll i'll I'll make one little segue. And I think because I understand that the producer of the the manufacturer of the cards has ah has a level of ownership of of this problem and solution.
00:58:36.53
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:37.32
Adz
However, it's it's on the hobby itself. It's the people in the hobby that need to be on board to help with this. And i what I'm saying is, and this is going to be critical of a lot of people, and um'm um I'm sure I'll get roasted for it, hopefully not by the bloke we just said on Instagram. But anyway,
00:58:54.34
Russell Gibson
hope I hope Jay does roast you, actually.
00:58:56.18
Adz
ah like
00:58:56.26
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:58:56.99
Adz
give it a crack, come on. um But... We need to remember in COVID and and hoops were disappearing off the, like I'm talking Don Russ and hoops.
00:59:08.37
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:08.52
Adz
I'm talking the lowest end product was being ripped off the shell in draws shelves in droves and tried to be resold for record profits. Let the kids have their cards.
00:59:19.80
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.
00:59:21.03
Adz
Do you know what i mean? Like, it's like we we make these $3 to $5 packs and then you've got dads like basically smashing through and taking them all. you're like, well, cool. Congrats. You got your little insert set.
00:59:34.45
Russell Gibson
I think that problem has shifted to a degree now.
00:59:36.76
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:37.77
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:59:37.99
Adz
Yeah. But that's, do you know what mean? Like we can, we're the solution.
00:59:41.81
Russell Gibson
The price of everything has gone up.
00:59:44.28
Adz
Yeah.
00:59:44.75
Russell Gibson
And I think as a result of that, there's a lot more stock available across the board, you know?
00:59:47.34
Adz
Yeah.
00:59:51.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
00:59:51.85
Adz
Yeah, but I think if you if you don't if you aren't have something for that those introductory experiences, then you're not going to have a future in the hobby.
01:00:04.40
Russell Gibson
No doubt.
01:00:04.44
Adz
And if we don't have that experience, we don't end up with a hobby in the future. So it's on us to help where we can.
01:00:11.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:00:12.69
Adz
and And one of the things I love doing, especially go to a trade show, you go to especially going to a trade day at a card store,
01:00:19.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:00:20.03
Adz
is those first experiences for from from a young collector that's the first time. It's one of their first hobby memories is ripping a pack and getting their favorite player.
01:00:30.61
Adz
First time they pull an autograph.
01:00:32.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:00:32.71
Adz
It doesn't matter who it is, but it's it's that cool experience. And it's, yeah, it's just like you meeting Admiral Schofield at an NBL game.
01:00:43.35
Russell Gibson
i right Don't build my high hopes up, mate.
01:00:43.43
Adz
It's that level of excitement.
01:00:46.35
Russell Gibson
Come on.
01:00:47.17
Adz
It's that level of excitement.
01:00:48.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:00:50.35
Adz
But yeah, I think, and I do, i do think it's on us.
01:00:50.51
Russell Gibson
Potential.
01:00:53.09
Adz
We've got to support it where we can. And it's a pay it forward thing.
01:00:56.28
Russell Gibson
I'm going to put this onto socials, but actually now's probably the good time to ask our listeners for this. So UConn Compass was hoping to acquire a space.
01:01:00.94
Adz
Hmm.
01:01:05.96
Russell Gibson
So whether it's in a restaurant, a card shop,
01:01:08.58
Adz
Yeah.
01:01:11.03
Russell Gibson
And our idea would be we would get in there, do a one-hour trade experience or whatever you want to call it, trade session. And then the hour after that, we would do a podcast and then have like a small small live audience.
01:01:21.01
Adz
live podcast.
01:01:23.31
Russell Gibson
How we do all the recording and stuff like that, we've got to really no idea. but the The idea I've sort of had and I've talked to you about this was like i used to go to board game nights at restaurants. So then all the tables would be filled up, pain people playing board games.
01:01:37.37
Adz
Yeah.
01:01:37.46
Russell Gibson
Then the handshake agreement was each person then bought dinner at the restaurant. So that was the win-win. The restaurant gave us the space. We gave them 50 heads at the at their restaurant, you know, so...
01:01:46.26
Adz
Patronage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
01:01:51.02
Russell Gibson
If anyone out there has got an idea or you know maybe you've got a venue that we could use, something like that, we'd be very flexible with times and dates and all that type of stuff to make it work for you, but also you know work for us.
01:01:59.11
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:59.94
Russell Gibson
So definitely putting that out there.
01:02:00.77
Adz
ye
01:02:03.17
Russell Gibson
Last card of the show, Adam. This is from Fanatics Collect, a historic flip. This 16-year-old turned a 40,000 basketball card into 1.8 million.
01:02:14.19
Russell Gibson
So my first question, which is probably going to contradict myself from the last segment I said that how are kids going afford this shit? Where does a 16 year old get 40,000 US dollars from?
01:02:27.76
Russell Gibson
How, how many cars did this kid wash?
01:02:34.60
Russell Gibson
How much, how much do kids get paid these days to wash a car?
01:02:40.27
Russell Gibson
20 bucks.
01:02:41.35
Adz
um'm um'm I'm telling you now there's no way 16
01:02:45.85
Russell Gibson
Let's say $25.
01:02:47.69
Adz
was buying a $40,000 basketball card. reckon
01:02:50.23
Russell Gibson
He washed 1,600 cars, that means, went out, bought a Giannis one of one, and then flipped it
01:03:02.85
Russell Gibson
for $1.81 million, dollars making him a million dollars profit.
01:03:02.91
Adz
i reckon um
01:03:08.51
Adz
I'm sorry, but there's no way on earth that this kid bought the card by himself. feel like he had a bit of help from mum and dad. I'm sure
01:03:17.37
Russell Gibson
Don't spoil the narrative. God, you're a spoil sport.
01:03:19.12
Adz
um just um i'
01:03:20.56
Russell Gibson
Stop it.
01:03:21.89
Adz
sure he didn't pay his mum and dad. may have got, hey, what? His 50 grand for the 40 borrowed. then kept $1.75 million.
01:03:30.98
Adz
and kept one point seven five million dollars
01:03:34.05
Russell Gibson
I do want to point this out though. This is from Fanatics Collect. So again, Fanatics Collect doing a great job of promoting the hobby.
01:03:40.05
Adz
Just reporting reporting crazy fun stories in the hobby. It's good to see. It's really good to see.
01:03:45.89
Russell Gibson
I don't remember Panini doing this once, just between you and me, Ed.
01:03:50.61
Adz
Not unless they were involved.
01:03:50.85
Russell Gibson
final Final thoughts.
01:03:54.07
Adz
Final thoughts. um Good to see the hobby is healthy. Good to see the hobby is healthy.
01:04:02.40
Adz
And I'm still chuckling about the Tom Brady, Jesse Gibson, love child of Mike Geo.
01:04:06.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I know. How good of a ah a slam was that?
01:04:11.31
Adz
That was, yeah.
01:04:11.45
Russell Gibson
I'm sorry, guys. We're laughing with you, not at you, by the way. like
01:04:14.42
Adz
Agreed, agreed, agreed. What a roast.
01:04:15.33
Russell Gibson
Not that Mike's going to be listening.
01:04:15.96
Adz
What a roast.
01:04:16.96
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's...
01:04:17.14
Adz
What a roast.
01:04:18.88
Russell Gibson
All right, my final thought, because we didn't get to do this in the show. I'm going to do it really quickly now. Darren Fox, no player option. He's been extended in the Spurs. Four years, $229 million. dollars
01:04:29.46
Adz
Go swipe a go.
01:04:30.80
Russell Gibson
um Kevin O'Connor spoke about this on his podcast. He was like, don't worry about It's a very easeasable easily tradable contract.
01:04:40.09
Adz
Mm-hmm.
01:04:40.23
Russell Gibson
Then the guess he had on is actually no. The way that all the salaries is structured these days, this is going be almost impossible contract to trade. So they've got two other rookies. They've got Castle and they've got Harper.
01:04:52.50
Russell Gibson
So my hot take from this is that one of those two guys are going to get traded. You can't have three you kind of have three lead guards.
01:04:56.15
Adz
Hopper's gone. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:59.88
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, Darren Fox. I just bought a silver PSA 10 last week. Actually, I traded it for a sealed box of Pokemon. That is the best trade I've done in my life.
01:05:06.40
Adz
Wow.
01:05:09.23
Russell Gibson
Trading a sealed box of Pokemon for a Fox. Could not have been happier. Shout out to Ados Utrust for that, mate. Thank you for the great deal. You genuinely made an old man happy. ah Last sold for 178 Fox so fox is like
01:05:26.52
Russell Gibson
from yeah he was selling for like 600 aussie not that long ago like i can remember that and off the top of my head so um oh god he peaked at 900 usd wild stuff anyway look this my final thought of today's show yes i agree with you the hobby's in a good place darren fox is a buy 200 usd
01:05:32.78
Adz
Yeah.
01:05:50.10
Adz
Fair.
01:05:50.77
Russell Gibson
two hundred usd
01:05:50.84
Adz
I like it.
01:05:53.38
Adz
Definitely. Agreed. Agreed. Awesome.
01:05:56.26
Russell Gibson
Thank you, Adam.
01:05:57.38
Adz
Thanks, Russell. um Thanks for a great show.
01:05:59.51
Russell Gibson
thank
01:06:00.31
Adz
I was going to say thanks to the YouTube listeners. Thanks to the Central Coast Radio listeners, everybody that tunes in every week, Google Podcasts.
01:06:03.58
Russell Gibson
Yep. Well done. Central Coast Radio. Yep.
01:06:11.19
Adz
if they Is it Google Podcasts? I don't know.
01:06:13.24
Russell Gibson
Google, YouTube, Apple.
01:06:14.95
Adz
Spotify, YouTube, Apple, whatever. Every podcast platform, there's a bunch of them.
01:06:20.96
Russell Gibson
We are on. We have subscribed to them all. So, yep.
01:06:23.73
Adz
yep Yeah, yeah. We appreciate it.
01:06:25.20
Russell Gibson
We're on Amazon. Did you know that?
01:06:26.79
Adz
Amazon.
01:06:27.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:06:28.92
Adz
not not
01:06:29.22
Russell Gibson
We signed up for something that and that automatically put us onto that.
01:06:29.81
Adz
not in not the river, puts us there. We're there.
01:06:33.10
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:06:33.55
Adz
That's fantastic.
01:06:34.10
Russell Gibson
It's crazy.
01:06:35.55
Adz
um you're You're not going to be here for a couple of weeks, but um i get no it's all i get to I get to play around.
01:06:38.61
Russell Gibson
Sorry, guys.
01:06:41.74
Adz
So things might not be as they usually are, but there will be a show.
01:06:42.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah.
01:06:47.26
Russell Gibson
It'll be fine. Whatever happens.
01:06:49.38
Adz
There will be a show. And what happens while Russell's away happens while Russell's away. Yes.
01:06:55.51
Russell Gibson
um Spotify, Podcast Index, iHeartRadio, Podcast Addicts, Podchaser, Pocketcast, Deezer, Listen Notes, Player FM, Overcast, Castro, Castbox, Good Pods, True Fans.
01:06:58.14
Adz
Yes.
01:07:09.86
Adz
If you find a podcast platform we're not on, let us know and we'll try and get on there.
01:07:11.96
Russell Gibson
Send us a message.
01:07:13.38
Adz
We will get on there.
01:07:13.41
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:15.44
Adz
Thanks, everybody. we will see you next week.