Episode 255: Topps Mega Box Black Hole, LeBron Year 23 Patch, Cade Cunningham

Halfway through the NBA season already? We dive into the hobby's latest whinges: Topps Chrome Mega Box blue X-Fractor packing mishap – error or nitpick? LeBron's revolutionary 23rd season jersey patch cards get Russell's thumbs up. Cade Cunningham's recent 1/1 sale that's melting brains (Nebula jumps big while Gold Vinyl lags?). Kuminga trade rumors (again), Luka Downtown Topps whispers, Trae Young's hobby impact post-trade to Washington. Plus: SGC/BGS grading updates, Wemby 500th block Topps Now game-ball patch insanity, hobby Mount Rushmore tweaks, and a Jordan 1995 Ultra Gold Medallion PSA 10 hitting $18k. Shoutouts to Kalman Collectibles and Aussie Cardboard Collector! 

Support the show → https://www.buymeacoffee.com/youcantcompthis

Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/70w10XxmGviovd5T0LUFFc

Transcript

00:00:04.30
Adz
It's doing a thing. It's thinking a lot. It's like the internet struggling.

00:00:11.26
Adz
Still thinking.

00:00:14.78
Adz
And there we are.

00:00:18.23
Adz
Done.

00:00:31.61
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 255 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast where you host Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:43.32
Russell Gibson
Hey, hey.

00:00:45.21
Adz
Stuff is happening. Stuff is happening.

00:00:49.43
Russell Gibson
There's always something happening, isn't there, between basketball, just general news and people people making up controversies in the hobby.

00:00:54.55
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:00:57.23
Russell Gibson
like There's always something, isn't there?

00:00:59.35
Adz
Oh, there's something to whinge about for sure. There's, there's, sure we can nitpick at what's going on.

00:01:01.37
Russell Gibson
That's right.

00:01:05.93
Adz
There's

00:01:05.94
Russell Gibson
Deep down, that's what we really love about the hobby, isn't it? Gives us something to whinge about.

00:01:11.16
Adz
the, um, the NBA is almost, we're almost halfway through the season.

00:01:15.03
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:01:16.39
Adz
It's pretty crazy. Like, yeah, we're, we're, we're at the halfway point, all-star weekends off in the distance.

00:01:22.78
Russell Gibson
Just cue cats in the cradle right now.

00:01:24.94
Adz
That's it. it Yeah. Yep.

00:01:28.66
Russell Gibson
What's your favorite and NBA moment from this season then? That's the that's the obvious question, isn't it?

00:01:32.49
Adz
Favourite NBA moment from this season? Oh, goodness.

00:01:35.12
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:01:36.50
Adz
I haven't got any favourites. I was been complaining about how all my sports teams are doing poorly at the moment. um

00:01:42.33
Russell Gibson
I should have asked you the opposite. What's your biggest whinge so far about sport this year?

00:01:47.62
Adz
I'm just, my team can't stay healthy. Like, ah the Lakers are not healthy and it's not LeBron, it's everyone else as well. Like, I get it. LeBron's 41. I'm not going to begrudge the man who actually had to play it back-to-back the other night because we're that short-handed.

00:02:03.48
Adz
Anyway, we'll see.

00:02:07.23
Russell Gibson
I think Derrick Queen's been my biggest surprise this year.

00:02:10.00
Adz
Derek Queen, interesting one.

00:02:11.93
Russell Gibson
I actually legit just enjoy watching him play.

00:02:14.71
Adz
Yeah.

00:02:15.61
Russell Gibson
i still think that trade was an absolute stinker, like particularly given that unprotected pick for it. But at the same time, like he's kind of a baller.

00:02:22.46
Adz
True.

00:02:25.05
Adz
He is, isn't he?

00:02:27.29
Russell Gibson
I get a bit of DeMarcus Cousins vibe from that kid. But without having the sort of...

00:02:29.97
Adz
ah don't don't jinx the man.

00:02:31.90
Russell Gibson
but i was about to say without the psycho like tendencies.

00:02:35.63
Adz
He's young. you might he like He might go nuts, you know. Yeah.

00:02:37.72
Russell Gibson
He seems pretty chill, dude. All right, let's talk about just a brief summary what we're going to talk about today. We're going to talk about the Topps packing error on the Mega Box. That's what I've called it on the sheet. you can

00:02:48.48
Adz
Yeah.

00:02:48.92
Russell Gibson
People at home, you can call it what you want. We're going to talk about the LeBron 23 jersey patch, year 23 jersey patch. We're going to about Tate Cunningham because there was a sale that happened recently and it's actually hurt my brain a little bit, so I thought we could talk about that.

00:02:55.54
Adz
Yep.

00:03:04.33
Russell Gibson
Kaminga has requested a trade again. I saw Brian Windhorst say that like...

00:03:08.22
Adz
I was going to say, it's like, why are we giving this oxygen?

00:03:09.29
Russell Gibson
Why are we talking about this?

00:03:10.78
Adz
Why are we giving this any oxygen?

00:03:12.47
Russell Gibson
i mean, this is my sort of like nerd, you know, and I love fake trade. So for me, we'll do that. ah Luca downtown. There was a a rumor from Topps and I couldn't actually verify anything from this. So we'll probably just go through that really quickly. We're going to check in with Trae Young.

00:03:28.95
Russell Gibson
um collectors update on sgc and bgs i won't read through anything more because it's possible that's all we'll get through this week but let's do some shout outs first kalman collectibles love the podcast keep it up uh thank you so much man thank you for you know reaching out and just messaging us we really appreciate it okay

00:03:48.37
Adz
Yep.

00:03:51.30
Adz
who's I haven't got the other shout outs. was i was i was on another page.

00:03:55.92
Russell Gibson
Oh, that's cool. Aussie cardboard collector. ah He gave us a lot of likes this week on Instagram. So thank you so much. um And also too, he replied to a clip that we put up when Adam was talking about cards and what the market will pay. His response was great minds think alike. I've paid overs on cards that I know will be in support.

00:04:16.09
Russell Gibson
B in supply, I think he meant like, you know, um in demand when people said I was crazy and sold for more than double in a very short turnaround time. So I think that was the video when you were saying you're happy to pay over comps for a card, particularly if it's right there and then.

00:04:29.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:04:30.70
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:04:31.13
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing like people like a cards only work with what people are prepared to pay for it. and it's amazing what what people do.

00:04:36.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah. um He went on to say that everyone these days gets blinded by card letter comps and and there's not similar markets at the moment as we've headed in into the past.

00:04:47.38
Russell Gibson
um Yeah. The big one for me, the shout out for me this week though was Dre's underscore got cards. I woke up and checked the Insta and my whole thing was just filled up with 70 plus notifications.

00:04:57.50
Adz
a

00:05:00.28
Russell Gibson
It didn't even.

00:05:00.37
Adz
just liked everything.

00:05:02.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So thanks, man. We really appreciate the love on Insta. That's um that's really cool.

00:05:07.74
Adz
Yeah, no, but we do. And um I mean, i I'll remind everybody because that's what I was reading is the yeah if if people do love the content, just like liking 70 of our posts, that's that shows us a lot of love that actually really does help us.

00:05:23.77
Adz
um if you do like the content that we do do though we do do um you do like our content want support us uh in a financial way can actually open any of the podcast links and hit the support the show link to make a one-off or ongoing contribution but yes if funds are tight and you just want to show us some love uh digitally i guess

00:05:25.21
Russell Gibson
it.

00:05:47.06
Adz
ah by by publicly supporting the show in exactly that way, jumping on YouTube, jumping on Instagram, jumping on TikTok, jumping on Facebook and liking a bunch of posts, sharing the content.

00:05:51.70
Russell Gibson
yeah that's it

00:05:58.14
Adz
We really do appreciate it.

00:06:00.35
Russell Gibson
Yep. A hundred percent. all Alrighty. Let's get into the show this week. I think we've, um, we've done a bit of chitter chatter for long enough. So this first story is about a let's call it a packing error.

00:06:13.69
Russell Gibson
You can call it a printing error, packing error. The first person who I saw this was trading cardboard on Instagram. And if you're looking for this guy, it's double D at the end. If you are wanting to make sure,

00:06:26.65
Russell Gibson
um You've got all of that. Dear Topps Collector, we're reaching out to you to provide you with an additional information regarding the 2012-26 Topps Chrome Basketball Mega Box. The box states Chase exclusive blue X-Fractors.

00:06:39.87
Russell Gibson
Unfortunately, this is a print error on the packaging. While blue X-Fractors are not included in the product, base X-Fractors are available. This information is accurately reflected on the odds page on Topps.com.

00:06:47.74
Adz
a

00:06:51.26
Russell Gibson
We sincerely apologize for any confusion this may cause and appreciate your understanding. Thank you for your continued support. All right. So Adam, what's your first reaction to this and what should Topps do to make this right for people?

00:07:07.19
Adz
I have follow-up questions. i want to know if it was a printing error or packing error. Did they not put the cards they were intending to put in there? Or... Did somebody miss the QAQC the way to the print?

00:07:20.12
Russell Gibson
I bet you there was like a box of cards that was supposed to be, you know, shuffled into them and, you know, sent out into the boxes and the intern never carried the box down. It's just sitting in the back of his holding you.

00:07:30.50
Russell Gibson
That's what I reckon's happened. Yeah.

00:07:32.28
Adz
I think it was, um yeah, because it says blue X-Factor. Like that's that's not an error that happens. like the mega boxes, every box has its own unique parallels, right?

00:07:46.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:07:47.48
Adz
So how would you approve the print run of these boxes to be made if you didn't intend on putting the cards in there? So look, I i'd had i doubt that... um it's a it's a case of ah a box of cards sitting in someone's you, but it's like there's an all it's an automated process how the packaging happens. But I think they did accidentally leave them out.

00:08:13.72
Adz
ah reprint run I don't think they programmed it correctly. um Yeah, but ah the question is, what product did they go into them?

00:08:22.78
Russell Gibson
I'm guessing they haven't gone into anything at all. That would be my feeling.

00:08:26.58
Adz
Wow, maybe they'll just do a special release of blue X fractures.

00:08:29.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah. ah so And that's what I want to ask you. It's like, how how should people be compensated on this? Because that for me is the part that's left out of that email. It's like, there's just nothing written there at all in terms of how we're going to make this right for people or something like that.

00:08:43.95
Russell Gibson
I've actually got some ideas on it, but yeah.

00:08:43.94
Adz
um'm I've got an idea. I'm going to go straight out and say they shouldn't be compensated. I don't think anyone bought these products just to get blue X-Fractors. People were trying to get their hands on Chrome product in any way, shape or form. And this was going to sell out no matter what.

00:08:58.87
Adz
It doesn't doesn't matter if it said blue X-Fractor on the box, base X-Fractor on the box, didn't say anything about X-Fractors on the box. The megas were going to sell out.

00:09:08.98
Russell Gibson
No, it says it like it's plastered all over the box. That's like the the chase out of that box.

00:09:12.82
Adz
is that but But that's not the reason people were buying Topps Chrome.

00:09:17.43
Russell Gibson
Sure, sure. But it's like literally if you look at the box, have you seen a picture of the box?

00:09:20.82
Adz
No, no, I bought a Mega, but that's not why I bought it.

00:09:21.78
Russell Gibson
yeah Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:24.37
Adz
Do you know what i mean?

00:09:24.76
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:09:25.08
Adz
Like i I see that it's there in big bold writing.

00:09:25.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.

00:09:28.56
Adz
I get it, that it's it's missing one of the highlighted chase cards, but that's not why people were buying Megas.

00:09:32.09
Russell Gibson
The chase. Yeah. Yeah.

00:09:38.33
Adz
You know what i mean Like I bought it because it was at a decent price point to get some more Chrome products.

00:09:44.34
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So I watched a couple of videos to see actually what come out of it. So you still got your silvers in it, right?

00:09:50.87
Adz
A hundred percent. Yep.

00:09:51.99
Russell Gibson
And I, I saw that some people are getting autographs out of them too.

00:09:55.96
Adz
Yeah.

00:09:56.82
Russell Gibson
So it's not like there were totally empty boxes just full of base cards. Cause initially that's what I, that's where my, that's where my head went to.

00:10:01.17
Adz
One hundred. No, no, no, no. Yeah.

00:10:03.62
Russell Gibson
I was like, Oh, that's kind of like a terrible experience for people, but it's not, that's not what happened.

00:10:07.03
Adz
No, no. but They've got the silver X-Fractors, like the base X-Fractor, right?

00:10:08.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:10:12.05
Adz
They've got those in there.

00:10:12.36
Russell Gibson
Did you get some refractors out of your boxes?

00:10:14.04
Adz
Yeah, I've got one or two refractors.

00:10:15.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Okay, cool.

00:10:16.08
Adz
I've got a couple of X-Fractors.

00:10:16.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:10:17.40
Adz
Like, that was the whole thing.

00:10:17.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah. yeah

00:10:18.68
Adz
i think I got like a Steven Adams and some other trash player, but and I didn't get a rookie.

00:10:19.13
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:10:23.26
Adz
But do you know what I mean? like ah Or the rookie I did get was trash, whatever. Yeah.

00:10:28.22
Russell Gibson
So this is my idea for the compensation though because I think posting out people's cards to them, you know, in envelopes one at a time, i think that's too, like too much. And also I think Stadium Club has done this, you know, amazing product where it's like an online repack that you get. So I feel like this is what they should do. They should say, look,

00:10:49.16
Russell Gibson
They'll set up a portal. People put in their receipt number or their um box UPC as proof of purchase of their mega. And then essentially they go into like an online platform um portal and then they get like a digital pack and then maybe they'll randomly be given an X-Fractor.

00:11:07.06
Adz
yeah

00:11:07.22
Russell Gibson
Then if you say, okay, I actually want that physical card, then you pay for the shipping and then it comes out to you. And I know that's an extra cost, but I think that's fair because if it's just like a low end X-Fractor that it's worth $2, it's not even worth the postage coming out.

00:11:21.70
Adz
surer True, true.

00:11:22.36
Russell Gibson
Do you know what mean? i I feel like, and that will be quite a fun experience for people. So they're still getting that like dopamine endorphin release, you know, with the randomness of like the extra pack, it's not going to cost tops a heap of money.

00:11:30.98
Adz
Yeah,

00:11:34.20
Russell Gibson
um and also too, I'm assuming at some point tops is going to be doing some sort of redemption online compensation thing. So maybe that could, you know, be sort of all like baked into that.

00:11:45.19
Adz
yeah. I reckon they'll do a Chronicles like set and that's where all the blue fractures will go.

00:11:50.46
Russell Gibson
Probably. Yeah.

00:11:51.77
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:11:52.54
Russell Gibson
So we put up a couple of posts to get people's, because the question I had was, when did Panini do this? Cause I know that in the past, something similar, maybe not exactly like this scenario has happened.

00:12:05.00
Russell Gibson
And I was like, cause I think people's memory is so short.

00:12:05.37
Adz
yeah

00:12:08.10
Russell Gibson
And I think this is what's actually really funny to me. And people have been saying this online in two weeks time, the next product's going to be out. and Everyone's going to have moved on and and forgotten about it. And it's so funny because if you go back and we're talking in the group chat about this, I'm not too sure if you had the group chat on this week, but,

00:12:24.49
Adz
I'm probably on mute.

00:12:26.07
Russell Gibson
But seriously, man, like no one could actually remember the product that this scenario happened in for Pinini. Everyone was like, oh yeah, yeah, like it's happened at some point. And look, we all know boxes you know didn't come with autographs or they you know they didn't come with a hit that was supposed to be in there and you would send it off. But then Pinini leaned very heavily on that on average. you know That's why you didn't get it because it's it's not guaranteed. It's on average. And they did all that sort of thing. But it's like...

00:12:54.10
Russell Gibson
that That to me was so funny, sort of you know doing some research into this. Anyway, so if you if you click on the NCM link ad, the first one I'm going to read out is actually from Ross.

00:12:58.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:13:03.26
Russell Gibson
So people listen to the podcast all the time. You know, Ross is a sponsor of the show. So thank you so much, Ross. Topps had a 2023 product. They forgot to put in the silver packet.

00:13:13.59
Russell Gibson
Massive print run. Ended up sending out the packets later to the outlets who had to forward the packets to the retailers. So this is not the first time Topps have had... Almost this exact scenario happened before.

00:13:25.00
Adz
Oh, yeah.

00:13:26.47
Russell Gibson
So like, you know, as someone who is interested in improving process and stuff like that, clearly they've got some problems going on with their processes here.

00:13:34.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:13:35.67
Russell Gibson
um Ben Sowerby, couple of mates got the same email after they purchased a lot of boxes, not sure what will happen, but they're not thrilled about it. Um, And then just asked him generally, you know, what else did he get in the boxes?

00:13:51.38
Russell Gibson
And that was the, I had checked out those videos and they did get some nice cards into it.

00:13:55.86
Adz
yeah

00:13:56.03
Russell Gibson
Lukey until Friday, it's false advertising and a class action waiting to happen. There is a few people that have said this online, but I don't feel like this is class action material for me.

00:14:09.81
Adz
Oh, look.

00:14:10.63
Russell Gibson
I think that's going too far.

00:14:12.25
Adz
Yeah, no one noticed until until someone put it into the spotlight, whatever. I don't think I honestly I don't think we're getting to that level.

00:14:17.37
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:14:20.23
Russell Gibson
Yeah. And I also think too, it's like the stakes aren't high enough for this to be class action.

00:14:26.81
Adz
Yeah, yeah, I like it.

00:14:27.35
Russell Gibson
If they give people a pack of cards, this problem is going to go away. Yeah.

00:14:30.94
Adz
Yeah, it's it's it's a bit Yeah, ah did I don't know.

00:14:31.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:14:35.94
Adz
There was a response from is it Jake Spinner?

00:14:38.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:14:39.54
Adz
but but This is, don't know, you gotta to be careful with saying things that are false, me like it's false advertising. Well, it's not. they they're Yes, it's misleading. And yes, it was an error, but it wasn't that once we go back to the start, when I was telling before, that's not why I bought a mega.

00:14:59.61
Adz
Literally. That's not why people are buying megas. They're trying to get refractors. that Like, you know what I mean? They're trying to get Chrome products at a decent price point.

00:15:07.80
Russell Gibson
Yeah, sure.

00:15:09.62
Adz
um If you really want to blow it up and turn it into a class action, good luck. I'm not going to.

00:15:15.03
Russell Gibson
Oh, and by the way, I'm not saying they did this on purpose.

00:15:15.68
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:17.03
Russell Gibson
Like clearly this is an error, right?

00:15:17.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:18.71
Russell Gibson
Like it's nothing more than that.

00:15:19.13
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:15:20.85
Russell Gibson
um Lane Pierce. Do you want to read that one, man?

00:15:23.26
Adz
Yeah. Panini had sneaker spotlights on the checklist for Chronicles a few years ago, and these were never in the product.

00:15:30.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah, and I think this is like where it's I was struggling a bit. like i never I can't remember this happening with Panini where it was like written on the box in you know big sort of lettering. But yeah, 100%. There was cards that were on the checklist that never came out.

00:15:45.08
Russell Gibson
But Sneaker Spotlights and Chronicles, like that was never supposed to happen. That was always supposed to be noir, maybe one and one at you know at one point, wasn't it?

00:15:53.53
Adz
Yeah.

00:15:54.23
Russell Gibson
Matt Sherrington, are we already in the better, in the better the devil we knew territory? Seems to have been less than a sterling return to license for old tops.

00:16:04.89
Russell Gibson
And look,

00:16:08.25
Russell Gibson
are we? Is is that right?

00:16:10.52
Adz
ah I don't know. Look, it's...

00:16:13.91
Adz
If Panini got the license back tomorrow, we'd be on their back about stuff. Like, it's not better the devil you know.

00:16:18.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:19.60
Adz
You just nitpick at them who whoever's in front of you. And at this point, we're we're looking at tops and we're scrutinizing everything they do.

00:16:23.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:16:29.14
Adz
We're we're probably over-scrutinizing everything they do because our expectation is so high with them.

00:16:34.81
Russell Gibson
I think the difference is immediately with Panini, obviously the overheads that Tops have got is so much higher than anything that Panini had.

00:16:42.87
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:43.80
Russell Gibson
And I think the other thing too is like immediately straight out of the gate, the price point on everything has gone up.

00:16:43.90
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:50.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:16:50.26
Russell Gibson
so So I think like if we're you know comparing apples to apples, like probably people are a bit miffed about it, you know, because they've just spent 80 bucks on the Mega, got shafted.

00:16:50.42
Adz
it sure True. True. 100%.

00:16:57.02
Adz
hundred percent

00:16:59.77
Russell Gibson
And then I actually now the you know the key thing's not in there. Benjamin Wang.

00:17:05.93
Adz
Where are we? Benjamin Wang. Panini ah Absolute 2019-2020. They had to manually cross out all the rookie memorabilia cards because they said player worn and autograph, so they had to sharpie all the and autographs parts out.

00:17:24.66
Russell Gibson
So that was literally when all of that small print wording came into focus when people started to realize they weren't game one.

00:17:30.73
Adz
Yeah.

00:17:33.02
Russell Gibson
So you would have hated to be the intern for Panini back in those days.

00:17:37.46
Adz
Hell yeah, for sure.

00:17:37.59
Russell Gibson
um And I was sort of making the joke, what's worse being the Panini intern in 2019 or being a Wizards fan right now?

00:17:43.90
Adz
ah Very true, very true.

00:17:45.27
Russell Gibson
What do you think? Intern or Wizards fan?

00:17:48.12
Adz
um Probably being the intern. That said, i've been now they've got Trae Young maybe being a Wizards fan.

00:17:54.96
Russell Gibson
Man, I wish I was a Panini intern in 19. Can you imagine what it would have been like there?

00:18:00.19
Adz
Be weird.

00:18:00.76
Russell Gibson
Just being a fly on the wall, right?

00:18:02.10
Adz
Yeah, true, true.

00:18:05.20
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. On our own, you can't comp this page. we got Tim Coravu. This happened with Panini. You mailed in the UPC and they sent back a card in the mail while supplies lasted. My reply back to him was, do you remember what product that was?

00:18:17.67
Russell Gibson
And there was no reply there. So either Tim's busy or he just can't remember like what it was. And um yeah, again, it's just that classic thing of

00:18:22.04
Adz
Yeah. Look, proof of purchase. It's a simple one. They're like, fine. If you want to pay, if you want to pay the postage on it, send it to proof of purchase and we'll redeem it.

00:18:33.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:18:33.82
Adz
Done. Tick.

00:18:35.08
Russell Gibson
Yeah. On our Instagram, card sharky, Marky, perfect panini would never make such an error. ah

00:18:47.00
Adz
Perfect panini. What about actual panini? um Anyway.

00:18:51.30
Russell Gibson
That's a different company.

00:18:52.25
Adz
Oh, different company. Yeah. Yeah. And then what was it? That new card smell commented. It takes up like 25% of the box to how do you stuff up that badly? Yeah, I i tend to agree.

00:19:08.66
Adz
it's it's ah it's a It's a screw up. But I think yeah, they've they've either messed up with the insertion of the cards. Because it's definitely not it's definitely not they mispronounced. Because there's no way they're replacing the word base X-fractor with blue X-fractor. Do you know what I mean?

00:19:28.61
Russell Gibson
Oh, it's, if there's not one in the product.

00:19:29.33
Adz
If I'm taking up half the – if I'm not taking up – if I'm taking up the biggest bit of real estate on the box with look for exclusive base X-fractors, 100%.

00:19:40.55
Russell Gibson
Yeah. No, it's just, they made a mistake. And the last one we're going to read today is Clearview card. So thank you so much, man, for checking in with us. Was the check checklist out when these went on for sale? Poor form on top. Yeah, I think at the end of the day, that's all it is, isn't it?

00:19:54.87
Russell Gibson
um Last thoughts on this ad, and we're going to go to a break.

00:19:58.07
Adz
um My last thought on this would be if they do want to rectify it and and make nice with everybody, I'm sure I can go and think I might have the mega there. I don't know if it's, I've got it.

00:20:08.79
Russell Gibson
Did you keep the box? That's the question, isn't it?

00:20:10.38
Adz
I've got, I've got the physical box there.

00:20:10.79
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Oh, okay. So the UPC will be in that then.

00:20:13.21
Adz
I don't have the UPC should be in that, but it's just like CBF.

00:20:14.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:20:19.09
Adz
Can I be bothered? I don't know. I don't know. I bought the mega for other reasons is what is going to be my first and last take.

00:20:26.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:20:27.49
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:28.09
Russell Gibson
Your final words. And that's legit, man.

00:20:29.23
Adz
Yep.

00:20:31.04
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. The Hobby Hangout XL is coming to Melbourne. Save the date. Sunday, the 26th of April, 2026. Still feels weird to say 2026 for me. um I'm still in 2025.

00:20:42.16
Russell Gibson
Royal Exhibition Building in Melbourne.

00:20:42.33
Adz
That's

00:20:46.07
Russell Gibson
Go to thehobbyhangout.com.au. You can pick up your tickets at the moment. They've got early bird tickets at the moment for 20 bucks, just 20 bucks.

00:20:55.26
Adz
Nice.

00:20:55.64
Russell Gibson
What my recollection with the pricing for the hobby hangout, it was cheap at the start and it got more expensive as it got closer to the day. So if you want to get your cheap tickets, get in now, get your tickets.

00:21:07.61
Russell Gibson
Doors open at 1030 a.m. They close at 530, 400 tables, basketball, NFL, MLB, soccer and more speakers, Australian international guests.

00:21:19.02
Russell Gibson
live breaks, trading zones, trading card games, entertainment cards, activations, free play areas, food, coffee, drinks, the whole lot. We cannot say we're going to be there like we were in last year's capacity. We can't confirm or deny this because we don't know.

00:21:36.47
Russell Gibson
But as soon as we find out, you guys will be the first to know.

00:21:40.73
Adz
we will make We will make announcements in line with the the information that comes to hand.

00:21:46.33
Russell Gibson
and Alrighty guys, welcome back. Hope you enjoyed the first segment of this week's show. i had a good time ragging on fanatics.

00:21:58.04
Adz
You always have a good time ragging on Fanatics. It's like, is that your was like your um news resolution is to just hang as much shit on tops as you can?

00:22:07.21
Russell Gibson
Well, I mean, actually the next one is me complimenting tops. So probably not, probably not.

00:22:10.58
Adz
What? What? And doing all your hard work.

00:22:15.45
Russell Gibson
Just announced, Tops have announced that LeBron James will wear a special edition 23rd season jersey patch beginning tonight in Sacramento as a nod to where he began his legendary career career in 2003. These patches will be removed from his jerseys after each game and some will be featured in ultra rare cards. I give this...

00:22:39.80
Russell Gibson
two thumbs up. I think this is just absolutely brilliant. I think this is fantastic. I think for people collecting cards, this is like, we need this so badly. I think this has been a massive hole in trading cards in the whole of Panini era when we haven't had Jordan autographs. We haven't had LeBron autographs. I really hate this like sort of two tiered, three tiered system that we have of athletes being not in products like and it's going to be the same thing for Luca for the next 10 years right like Panini are just going to fuck with tops and hold him out it's as simple as that there is no way they're not doing it man there is no way

00:23:12.74
Adz
It's true.

00:23:16.47
Adz
better not. Like, ah honestly, it's about like it should be about the people. There'll be and there'll be a dollar amount. We'll get the deal done. You watch.

00:23:26.20
Russell Gibson
There's no way. Anyway, look, I love this so much. i think this is fantastic. i I can't wait to see what they do to the cards because, and we can talk about this now and sort of talk it a bit more later. There's a Wemby ball patch that they're releasing and it looks fantastic.

00:23:43.26
Russell Gibson
So if they keep doing that sort of creative artwork with this fantastic, you know, game-worn, celebration type material plus an autograph on it.

00:23:53.94
Russell Gibson
I think this is just absolutely fantastic. i love it a lot.

00:23:57.35
Adz
Hmm.

00:23:58.07
Russell Gibson
My other take on this too, is that I think this is going to force people to look back at his old Panini cards and his old upper deck stuff too.

00:24:07.00
Adz
Interesting.

00:24:07.94
Russell Gibson
And so i think I've almost come full circle on this because I think when

00:24:15.38
Russell Gibson
The news came out that LeBron was going to be signing again and in live product. My thought was that his high school stuff is going to go down and people should sort of cycle out of that and save their money and put it into like the current product. And and to a degree, i still I still sort of believe that. But at the same time, I don't think it's going to crash the market or anything like that. I actually think this is going to make it

00:24:38.30
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:39.11
Russell Gibson
It's going to bring him back into pop culture again. And I think it's the same as Jordan. I think actually if Jordan was back in product now, i don't think that would be a terrible thing.

00:24:45.85
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:49.21
Russell Gibson
I think that would be actually great for collectors and, you know, people would be excited to have his autographs again.

00:24:51.81
Adz
Yeah.

00:24:53.65
Russell Gibson
but Where are you at with this man? Particularly, and you're you're a Lakers fan.

00:24:55.67
Adz
I like it. I think it's an, yeah.

00:24:57.00
Russell Gibson
least This is going to impact you directly.

00:24:59.19
Adz
Well, did ah just, just to be clear, i don't, I don't associate LeBron James with the Lakers. the way that others do. i He's synonymous with Cleveland and a little bit with Miami for for my liking.

00:25:12.38
Adz
Yeah, we he won a chip in l LA.

00:25:12.78
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:25:14.10
Adz
Yeah, he's done, he's been around, he's actually been in LA for longer than any other team now. Like he's done a long stint in LA. Like it's, he's actually been here for and seven seasons.

00:25:28.24
Adz
It's pretty crazy. Yeah, seven or eight seasons in LA.

00:25:29.61
Russell Gibson
That's wild, isn't it? Yeah.

00:25:32.22
Adz
It's, Yeah, time flies when you're having fun apparently.

00:25:35.32
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:25:35.83
Adz
But it like I just ah feel like this is a LeBron thing. It's nothing to do with either either any of the clubs that he's played for. It's all about LeBron in true LeBron fashion.

00:25:47.35
Adz
um He's all aboard it. This is top this is a Tops initiative, I'm sure. But LeBron's like, this is all about LeBron, which is interesting that there's been no decision on his retirement.

00:26:01.43
Adz
But are you going to bring... Is he gonna go and play number 24 if this was his special patch?

00:26:09.62
Russell Gibson
I mean, that's his number. I'm assuming it's just to play on his number and also to celebrate.

00:26:13.25
Adz
True.

00:26:13.30
Russell Gibson
And maybe that's how they sold it to him. Hey, we want to celebrate you.

00:26:17.18
Adz
True.

00:26:18.33
Russell Gibson
and maybe Maybe that's the easy sell to get LeBron on board.

00:26:18.78
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:21.50
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Look, it's...

00:26:23.42
Russell Gibson
Maybe that's how we get LeBron on the podcast. Hey, LeBron, we want to celebrate you.

00:26:26.81
Adz
We wanna do a LeBron episode.

00:26:28.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:29.94
Adz
That'll just get him on. Or to talk about LeBron.

00:26:31.57
Russell Gibson
Fuck yeah.

00:26:32.10
Adz
That's it.

00:26:32.31
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Easy done. All right.

00:26:33.53
Adz
He can control the narrative too.

00:26:35.14
Russell Gibson
That's my to-do list for this week.

00:26:35.99
Adz
um So what? So we end up with approximately, have these patches only just started? So we're going to end up with like 40 to 50 of them.

00:26:46.36
Russell Gibson
Well, I was thinking about this.

00:26:47.05
Adz
He's wearing it today and the Lakers loss.

00:26:49.81
Russell Gibson
I reckon he might wear more than one jersey per game because they get super sweaty, right?

00:26:54.27
Adz
Sure. warm Warm ups, change it.

00:26:56.02
Russell Gibson
They would change it at halftime.

00:26:57.83
Adz
Of course, of course.

00:26:58.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:58.82
Adz
So, all right, number but how many are we talking about? We're talking that there'll be... Probably.

00:27:03.86
Russell Gibson
I think 60 to 70.

00:27:03.86
Adz
And playoffs. Okay. Okay.

00:27:07.31
Russell Gibson
That's my guess.

00:27:08.25
Adz
Okay. Yeah. That's still a relatively limited limited number of patches, isn't it?

00:27:12.34
Russell Gibson
Because I think to assume it's one per game, I think that's wrong.

00:27:15.88
Adz
I'm just trying to give context because it's not a Logoman because a Logoman is like that one of one.

00:27:19.99
Russell Gibson
no No, this is a LeBron Logerman.

00:27:20.86
Adz
and front

00:27:24.28
Adz
This is the equivalent of a LeBron Logoman, but there's lots of them.

00:27:28.41
Russell Gibson
Maybe we need a nickname for this so it's like... Yeah.

00:27:32.56
Adz
See, Tops was smart, they would do something like what Tyson Beck has done and actually make sure you've got the date stamp, any important milestone games, any important feats, anything that he does, dates, et cetera.

00:27:47.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:27:49.69
Adz
But yeah, I like it. I think it's a really good initiative. I think it's something really easy that we can, that Tops can do in conjunction, obviously, with the m NBA.

00:28:00.20
Adz
Same as the the um the gold logo men on SGA and Castle and all that.

00:28:06.71
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:28:08.47
Adz
Like it's...

00:28:08.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Look, I'm all aboard this stuff. I think this is really cool. I think this stuff is going to be ultra, ultra rare.

00:28:13.50
Adz
We get so much more. Yeah, but we get more... more product or more innovation for very little. And I think it's simple. It's something very simple. And I think it's a great idea.

00:28:27.67
Russell Gibson
doesn't need to be a convoluted idea for it to be good.

00:28:30.26
Adz
But the problem is if it works and then they start putting, everybody's got their own little branded unique tag, then it becomes less unique.

00:28:30.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:28:41.98
Adz
Do you know what mean? Like, oh player of the month, player of the month is also going to get a special tag. And then,

00:28:47.83
Russell Gibson
At the end of the license, they'll do that for sure.

00:28:50.14
Adz
Yeah.

00:28:50.78
Russell Gibson
Yeah. But the first year, it'll just be LeBron and SGA. That's cool.

00:28:55.61
Adz
And the Rookie of the Year.

00:28:58.03
Russell Gibson
That's cool.

00:28:58.14
Adz
Is it? it yeah it's interesting. And All-Star?

00:29:00.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:00.73
Adz
What about All-Stars? Are they going to get All-Stars?

00:29:03.99
Russell Gibson
Sure.

00:29:06.69
Adz
Anyway, maybe they'll have special patches in the All-Star game. Who knows?

00:29:09.75
Russell Gibson
All righty, let's talk about Cade Cunningham because i found two sales of this guy this week. So the first one's from Alt XYZ Official, and they were highlighting a Nebula choice from 2022.

00:29:17.85
Adz
Mm-hmm.

00:29:20.78
Russell Gibson
So this is out of the Prism product. Nebula is like the one of one that people covet and chase, right? The interesting part about this story is this.

00:29:26.27
Adz
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:29:28.30
Russell Gibson
It sold in November 24 for $3,500, and in January 26, it sold for $55,000. Now, just hold that thought for two seconds. I'm going to do a comp.

00:29:38.48
Russell Gibson
to another Cade 1 of 1. This sold on the 1st of January, 2026. This is the Optic Gold Vinyl 1 of 1 from his rookie year, PSA 10.

00:29:49.81
Russell Gibson
That sold for 51,000. Now, this is my question to you. Why did the Gold Vinyl 1 of 1 from Optic only sell for 51,000 when his non-rookie PSA 9 Nebula sold for 55? I cannot work this out.

00:30:05.02
Russell Gibson
So I'm hoping you can help me out, man.

00:30:09.86
Adz
When did it sell? January 8th.

00:30:13.50
Russell Gibson
Seven days apart.

00:30:15.04
Adz
Yeah.

00:30:17.18
Russell Gibson
It's wild.

00:30:22.53
Adz
That's an interesting one.

00:30:23.48
Russell Gibson
So for people who are new to the hobby, the normal trend that happens here is the rookie sells for more than the veteran one would.

00:30:23.61
Adz
That's a very, it's a very interesting one. Of course, of course.

00:30:30.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:30:31.48
Adz
Um,

00:30:31.64
Russell Gibson
Even if it is prism versus optic and prism is the more coveted product.

00:30:36.18
Adz
Oh yeah. And it's not like one card's way uglier than the other. Like they're both very beautiful looking cards.

00:30:42.87
Russell Gibson
I personally think the Nebula in this instance is uglier than the gold vinyl, but that's just my preference.

00:30:42.95
Adz
They're both one of...

00:30:47.45
Adz
I like the Nebula. I think the Nebulas are really, um, yeah.

00:30:50.35
Russell Gibson
It's cool, but like if I had to choose, I would go for the gold vinyl.

00:30:54.10
Adz
Yeah, it's... ah i've got i've actually i've got I've got nothing.

00:30:55.38
Russell Gibson
I can't explain this.

00:30:57.66
Adz
I actually don't have an explanation. I don't think... I think whoever got the vinyl, the gold vinyl, got it at a steal.

00:31:07.03
Russell Gibson
hundred percent i agree with that too i think that

00:31:07.56
Russell Gibson
100%.

00:31:07.82
Russell Gibson
I agree with that too.

00:31:08.86
Adz
um It could have been, honestly, New Year's Day, maybe the person bidding was hungover and didn't get a chance to bid.

00:31:09.16
Russell Gibson
I think that...

00:31:14.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah, like bad time to list a card.

00:31:16.66
Adz
Yeah, they're on holiday or something.

00:31:17.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:31:18.14
Adz
Like, auction ending on January 1st sounds like a ah ah horrible idea.

00:31:18.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:31:25.11
Adz
Anyway.

00:31:25.14
Russell Gibson
um So really quickly, let's just look at a silver rookie Cade PSA 10. Last sold for $800, so Aussie dollars, that's about $1,200. twelve hundred bucks The last three months, he's up 43%. So in terms of hobby activity and momentum and all that good stuff, there is a lot of lot of stuff going on with Cade at the moment.

00:31:46.60
Adz
Kate is looking good inside the pistons.

00:31:48.63
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I got to say, man, I don't have a problem saying this. I think this is going to go to a thousand dollar card because i think my reluctance to saying that before would have been because we hadn't seen that happen for a couple of years.

00:32:05.78
Adz
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:32:07.19
Russell Gibson
And then SGA did it and he's still going onwards and upwards. And I kind of think Kate is falling into that sort of hobby darling area, which is a crazy thing to say because Pistons aren't normally that type of team.

00:32:23.23
Russell Gibson
So,

00:32:23.54
Adz
Hobby darling. Are you trying to moz this guy by calling him a hobby darling?

00:32:27.46
Russell Gibson
nah, not really. i I think I've just, I mean, I love his game and I'm kind of glad that people are on board with this dude, to be honest.

00:32:35.10
Adz
Yeah, i like Kane, 100%.

00:32:35.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:32:37.08
Adz
hundred percent

00:32:39.06
Russell Gibson
All right, man, let's go to our next break and then we will come back and we'll talk some Jonathan Kaminga.

00:32:49.80
Russell Gibson
Neon Trading Cards, thank you so much for your ongoing support. Go to NeonTradingCards.com. There you will find a huge array of breaks. Soccer, NBA, MLB, F1, AFL, NRL, WWE, and Marvel.

00:33:05.37
Russell Gibson
Find Neon Trading Cards on Whatnot. They are one of the three Australian repackers on Whatnot. They are also Topps and Fanatics direct breaking partner. So all that fresh product is coming straight to Neon going out to you guys for those beautiful breaks. Check them out on neontradingcards.com for all your breaking needs.

00:33:25.40
Russell Gibson
And also, it's still a big week for... for Neon Trading Cards. They are doing Topps Chrome Basketball live on the website. Do not miss out on these breaks. We were just talking about the mega boxes, how people just want to get their hands on it. We're going to be talking a little bit about supply and demand of Topps in a second.

00:33:42.40
Russell Gibson
Yep, the boys at Neon have got all the stock, so guys, get onto their breaks and go and check them out. Get down to neontradingcards.com for all your hobby-related needs.

00:33:59.98
Russell Gibson
We're back at how you doing?

00:34:02.04
Adz
We're back. I'm good. I'm hydrated.

00:34:03.38
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Good.

00:34:06.01
Adz
Ready for part three.

00:34:07.86
Russell Gibson
All right. How much time do you want to dedicate to this before we go? The Jonathan Kuminga trade request. I'll set a timer to what you say.

00:34:14.23
Adz
I think 45 seconds.

00:34:15.66
Russell Gibson
45 seconds. That is short. All right.

00:34:20.54
Adz
you know You can have a minute.

00:34:21.02
Russell Gibson
I'll,

00:34:21.60
Adz
I'll round up. How's that?

00:34:22.46
Russell Gibson
Fine. All right. One minute. I've started the timer. All right. Kamiga's requested a trade. i kind of think this is a big deal because he's a young prospect. I think he's been held back because of the team he's been on. I think that's a very fair and reasonable thing to say. i would like to see him running his own team. My issue with this is I don't think there's a lot of teams that are going to be giving out um assets for him see the Trey Young trade that just happened a week ago right so I almost think this limps it down to like the Sacramento Kings something like that the only one that I really like the moment is the Dallas Mavericks trade proposition where it's like

00:34:47.65
Adz
Yeah. hu

00:34:59.90
Russell Gibson
Anthony Davis goes for Jonathan Kaminga, maybe some trade assets go to the Dallas way. i like that because it's like a young guy for an old guy and the old guy fits the golden state warriors timeline.

00:35:11.37
Russell Gibson
And I think that will be a really good fit with Draymond, Steph and Jimmy buckets. Do you know what mean? So I think that would be kind of cool.

00:35:17.60
Adz
Okay.

00:35:18.23
Russell Gibson
And I think that would help Dallas too. because that gives them like a nice young piece to go with Kaminga. They'll get rid of low.

00:35:23.00
Adz
Yeah.

00:35:24.39
Russell Gibson
They're already stopped playing him already. um

00:35:27.74
Adz
Fair, fair.

00:35:29.02
Russell Gibson
all right, my one minute's out.

00:35:30.98
Adz
Good. I just think Kaminga is overrated now. I think if you're that young and you're demanding shit, mate, you've you've lost the plot. he's He's up there in the cuckoo's nest with Jar Morant overvaluing himself. Anyway.

00:35:44.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah, look, I've said this a million times, and this is going be the last thing I say before we move on The and NBA is about talent, and it's also about opportunity. And this kid, I will bat with him on this.

00:35:55.77
Russell Gibson
He's had a bad run in terms of opportunity. ah That was a tough team.

00:35:58.81
Adz
Well, the op he's actually shooting a career worst field goal percentage this year. So he's definitely not, he's not the superstar he thinks he is.

00:36:06.57
Russell Gibson
Yeah. It's tough team. It's a tough situation for him. That's the only thing I'll say.

00:36:11.62
Adz
It is fair.

00:36:12.12
Russell Gibson
2018 Panini Cornerstone's Luka Doncic downtown PSA 9 sold for $6,600 this last week.

00:36:23.32
Russell Gibson
Why have I included this into the run sheet? Well, for two reasons. I think it's ah it's a big Luka card. It's a rookie card. um Also too, I think there's so much top stuff going on at the moment.

00:36:38.52
Russell Gibson
And we talk about, you know, short memories and how things move on so quickly I'm really happy to see that Panini cards are still trading highly and, you know, and they're doing well. And so I think, you know, there's that part of it too. So I don't think Panini is gone and it's gone forever. I think Panini is still going to be in our trading card lives, you know, basically forever. Some of the stuff they've made been amazing. Obviously all this big rookie stuff is going to still do really well.

00:37:03.96
Adz
Yeah.

00:37:04.82
Russell Gibson
um

00:37:05.02
Adz
no No rookie shield though.

00:37:08.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but that's okay. People who still know it's like a rookie. Yeah.

00:37:12.69
Adz
Yep.

00:37:13.37
Russell Gibson
I think this is a 10 out of 10 purchase. I think this is the type of card you buy now, you put it away. This is going to do really well. What's your take on this card, Ed?

00:37:25.26
Adz
I like it. it's um It's interesting that the downtowns are starting to see that same momentum shift that the Kabooms did, the the the the uptick over the last sort of 12 months.

00:37:40.79
Adz
So, yeah, definitely definitely going to be in and around the hobby for a very long time, Panini Cards.

00:37:49.79
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:37:49.88
Adz
I like it. I like I like the the downtowns prefer cabooms. But yeah, definitely and a unique lot of cards.

00:37:58.38
Russell Gibson
All right. This next one's from Boston Card Hunter. If you don't follow him on Instagram, do yourself a favor, follow this dude. You don't have to like every piece of content that he does, but actually... 99 times out of 100, it's good stuff.

00:38:11.80
Adz
Yeah.

00:38:12.38
Russell Gibson
um This video is from three days ago of recording. So the 15th of January, this approximately came out. It's a story about the allocation of Topps products. So demand is high and it's tough to meet the demand.

00:38:27.22
Russell Gibson
Topps is pausing all direct accounts after until after the national. Tops now want more from sellers. So selling cars isn't enough. You'd need also need to create a great experience online or in stores.

00:38:42.17
Russell Gibson
And it almost implies that either you won't get your allocation or it's going to be reduced or something like that. Now, before I say anything more, he heard this from a source.

00:38:53.78
Russell Gibson
This is not something that's been written down on paper.

00:38:56.38
Adz
Yeah.

00:38:56.59
Russell Gibson
I've reached out to a couple of people and I've had crickets back. So this might be one of those things that we talk about for a minute or two minutes and then we come back to it next week with a bit more information. But I'm very fascinated about this because we had this with Panini too. Because remember 17, 18, heaps of stock.

00:39:14.50
Russell Gibson
18, 19, they kind of had it right. And then 19, 20, they printed so much. And then people still couldn't get their hands on you know what they wanted. And we had that you know insane you know price kaboom that happened.

00:39:27.56
Adz
The COVID.

00:39:28.50
Russell Gibson
People are talking about Topps as basically printing heaps from the start and it's still not meeting demand. so

00:39:38.90
Russell Gibson
ah Yeah, I'm not exactly too sure what this means exactly. Like, does it mean that they can't print enough?

00:39:46.96
Adz
an interesting quandary, isn't it?

00:39:48.82
Russell Gibson
Does it mean that people have bought everything up? Like, i You know, I don't i don't know. i think obviously the one that I think about those, and I've said this already before, it's like, if you're a trading card shop and you're not getting tops allocation, how do you run a successful business?

00:40:07.67
Russell Gibson
And I really worry about people

00:40:09.42
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:10.82
Russell Gibson
that's that's happening too. And I i don't want to use the word unfair, but I genuinely think that is not right. And I don't think it's good for the hobby either. like We need trading card shops.

00:40:22.04
Russell Gibson
Like it's as simple as that.

00:40:23.98
Adz
on the matter are very much linked

00:40:24.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. all right. That's it. That's all I got.

00:40:28.02
Adz
my my thoughts on the matter ah very much linked to

00:40:30.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:34.46
Adz
the thought that, and it's not about changing anything, it's just observing it, that because breaking is the new way to open so much product, I think with with the ever with the evolution of breaking, they take up so much of the of that resource, which is distribution of cards.

00:40:43.82
Russell Gibson
Oh, for sure. It's like the new trading card shop, isn't it?

00:40:55.88
Russell Gibson
A hundred percent. How much of this is going to the big breakers?

00:40:57.07
Adz
It's not, yeah.

00:40:58.89
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:59.22
Adz
So big breakers, the breakers that are breaking daily and breaking break upon break upon break, like that's it.

00:41:05.18
Russell Gibson
10 cases every day. yeah

00:41:07.39
Adz
But it's in order to keep up with demand for breaks, breakers need the stock. So think about how much of that big I don't know, part of the pie is is allocated there.

00:41:22.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:41:22.84
Adz
And unless you're going to tell breakers you need to back off, which they're not, they're like they make money doing it. The more breaks they run, the more...

00:41:30.11
Russell Gibson
Or reduce a break is allocation. Yeah.

00:41:32.06
Adz
Correct, saying that that a percentage of the product needs to be sold to the wider community rather than sent to breakers to rip on live videos.

00:41:44.31
Adz
You can't control that though, unless you change the distribution model or create a different type of product for breakers.

00:41:50.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:41:59.38
Adz
Anyway. There's no way to regulate that, by the way, because if you can buy the product, people can buy the product to break it. So you can't police it anyway.

00:42:11.68
Adz
I just think that's where the supply chain stuff is is got is coming undone. We're using the supply chain models from 20 years ago before breaking ever existed in in a market that involves breakers.

00:42:25.37
Adz
And they haven't caught up yet.

00:42:27.26
Russell Gibson
I mean, maybe.

00:42:30.55
Adz
The business model hasn't caught up yet.

00:42:33.02
Russell Gibson
but i don't know.

00:42:34.04
Adz
Anyway, that's my two cents.

00:42:36.38
Russell Gibson
Yeah, no, it's totally fine. Look. Anyway, i've really I'm really interested to hear more about this.

00:42:43.29
Adz
it be it'd be nice It'd be nice if something else comes out with regards to that. Not nice if stores are losing their allocations and stuff, but nice to know more about what the plans are and what's happening. Yeah, for sure.

00:42:53.53
Russell Gibson
hundred percent yeah

00:42:54.68
Adz
Yeah.

00:42:55.42
Russell Gibson
All righty, let's just do a really quick Trae Young check-in. This is almost like a welfare check for Trae Young, but from a hobby perspective. He hasn't suited up for the Wizards yet, there's nothing to talk about from that end. Let's talk about his card letter prices. Let's zoom right in. So the last three months, he's down 21%. The last two weeks, he is down 33%. think the market has spoken.

00:43:18.71
Russell Gibson
so i think the market has spoken Trey Young has been sent to a hobby graveyard in Washington. His silver PSA 10 is currently trading at $100 ad.

00:43:31.00
Russell Gibson
Population on this is 2,382. Oh, God, this man. This is All right, let's just um really...

00:43:36.34
Adz
Wow, this is um, this is worse than Zion.

00:43:45.50
Russell Gibson
celebrate uh 2021 the peak sale for trey young was three thousand two hundred and forty two dollars

00:43:54.08
Adz
Wow.

00:43:57.05
Adz
Wow.

00:43:58.04
Russell Gibson
we need to reach out to to ryan and work out how much has been wiped off the trey young value plate yeah

00:44:05.41
Adz
Oh, look, that's, that's insane.

00:44:10.39
Russell Gibson
All right, I'm going to put up a post for this week, but I'm going to ask all the listeners right now. If you're holding Trae Young, what are you doing with it? Are you selling it? Are you using it as coasters? Are you...

00:44:20.14
Adz
Are you burning it?

00:44:21.34
Russell Gibson
Wow. Are you having some type of ritual cleansing? Yeah.

00:44:25.53
Adz
Yeah. Commiserations.

00:44:30.63
Russell Gibson
All righty. Collectors update on SGC and BGS. This is from Sports Cards Investor, my good friend.

00:44:37.91
Adz
Your best buddy.

00:44:39.34
Russell Gibson
PSA president Ryan Hoge shared new details on what's next for collectors, including capacity expansion at SGC and BGS, and a fresh coming to Beckett.

00:44:50.14
Russell Gibson
Key takeaways, SGC and BGS capacity expanding as demand grows. Beckett label update planned to address customer confusion. Brand refresh in the works.

00:45:00.78
Russell Gibson
PSA focused on shortening turnaround times, pre and post grading imaging coming to BGS and PSA tech and infrastructure expected to extend to BGS and SGC. All right.

00:45:11.61
Russell Gibson
Which dot point would you like to talk to about first?

00:45:16.30
Adz
I'll go from go from the top.

00:45:18.12
Russell Gibson
Sure.

00:45:18.75
Adz
This year is GC and BGS capacity expanding as demand grows. I call BS.

00:45:26.65
Russell Gibson
Well, no, technically that could be correct because um they will expand as as the demand is there, right? So if there's no expansion, would then they won't.

00:45:36.37
Adz
There's no demand for their product and they won't expand.

00:45:38.10
Russell Gibson
that's That's right. so they're not technically telling a lie, are they, right?

00:45:39.13
Adz
I see. This

00:45:41.90
Russell Gibson
that This is all branding and marketing, my friend. It creates excitement.

00:45:44.60
Adz
is true. Um,

00:45:45.50
Russell Gibson
yeah Beckett label update.

00:45:48.06
Adz
Plan to address customer confusion. I'm confused as to why they're even updating the labels.

00:45:51.80
Russell Gibson
What confusion is there on the label?

00:45:55.34
Adz
there's no There's no confusion.

00:45:57.40
Russell Gibson
Unless you're colorblind for like gold and black and that creates some type of problem with you reading.

00:46:03.32
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:46:06.49
Russell Gibson
Brand refresh in the works.

00:46:13.02
Adz
Brand refresh for BGS and SGC.

00:46:16.99
Russell Gibson
I'm assuming they just mean BGS. Actually, can we take a step back? i I've actually missed something really important here. Maybe what they mean by the label update and confusion is just to remove the 0.5.

00:46:28.78
Russell Gibson
Let's be honest. That's the thing that really confuses people, isn't it?

00:46:32.34
Adz
No, but that's what separates them from the market. There's nothing confusing about it.

00:46:37.28
Russell Gibson
It's very confusing for people, Ed.

00:46:39.19
Adz
is it? Oh.

00:46:40.63
Russell Gibson
Because some people argue blue in the face that a 9.5 BGS is the same as a PSA 10.

00:46:49.38
Adz
Yep, this is going to be interesting. I feel like all this is well all this is, a attempt to satisfy an angry senator

00:46:53.14
Russell Gibson
I feel that there's confusion between us right now, Adam, you know?

00:47:05.62
Russell Gibson
Maybe.

00:47:05.82
Adz
and allay some monopoly allegations.

00:47:08.50
Russell Gibson
well maybe people have already forgotten about that angry senator in the last two weeks anyway.

00:47:08.90
Adz
That's it.

00:47:11.54
Adz
No, I don't think so.

00:47:14.07
Russell Gibson
You don't reckon?

00:47:15.00
Adz
We know it's a monopoly and they they can, they can.

00:47:16.41
Russell Gibson
I think this week's distraction was the mega box from tops. And next week there'll be another distraction. We've already forgotten. What are he you talking about? I've already forgotten about that PSA thing.

00:47:25.39
Adz
That, that, that Senator is is going to be on the case.

00:47:30.68
Russell Gibson
um PSA focused on shortening turnaround times. Can I be honest with you? I actually, I could care less about this. I don't care if my cards take three weeks or six months to come back.

00:47:38.11
Adz
Hmm.

00:47:39.64
Russell Gibson
I actually think in some ways, It's kind of good there's like a six-month delay. Like, wouldn't you rather that your thing is done properly than just like rush through and looked at for two seconds or not looked at at all and they just randomly give you a grade?

00:47:52.61
Russell Gibson
Do you know what I mean? like And also, i think too, it's like, how many cards can they actually grade?

00:47:54.01
Adz
Yeah.

00:47:57.34
Russell Gibson
like it's It's insane how many cards per day that they're grading.

00:48:01.69
Adz
Yeah, this is true.

00:48:02.00
Russell Gibson
It's just it's just in insane insanity what they're doing. The pre and post grading imaging, that's fantastic. we We need that on every single card. It needs to form a database as a reference point for collectors.

00:48:12.63
Adz
Yeah.

00:48:14.57
Russell Gibson
Like we need that so badly. um PSA tech and infrastructure expected to extend to BGS and SGC.

00:48:18.14
Adz
Yeah, I agree.

00:48:21.66
Russell Gibson
Fantastic. That makes sense.

00:48:23.36
Adz
Well, it should

00:48:23.58
Russell Gibson
that's what That's what a big company should do. And that's how you get efficiencies.

00:48:26.68
Adz
have. Yeah, 100%.

00:48:28.52
Russell Gibson
Fantastic. Final thoughts, my man.

00:48:32.38
Adz
It's just smoke and mirrors, whatever.

00:48:34.88
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:48:37.07
Adz
And trust anything that it comes out of Jeff Wilson's mouth anyway.

00:48:40.41
Russell Gibson
Wow. Yeah, true. US Sports Cards Australia. Thank you to US Sports Cards Australia for your ongoing love and support of our podcast. We cannot thank you enough for supporting us. Go to ussportscardsaustralia.com.au. There you'll find sealed product, brakes, car protection, and Ross's beloved water pistols. Of course,

00:49:01.59
Russell Gibson
Ross is still churning and slaving away over his com CA consignment page. Also go to Instagram com CA dot trading cards, and you can find all of the updates there on what Ross has been up to with that.

00:49:18.46
Russell Gibson
Now, just to clarify and get everything out on this, when you submit your cards to CommCA, write, you can't comp this, you'll get your entire sub done for $0.09. So that's an absolute bargain for you on that. Now, people who have done sales on this, $600, $390, $240, $165, that's cold hard cash into your pocket. And as Adam said last week, if you're time poor and you want to sell a bunch of cards, this is collecting dust on your table.

00:49:45.69
Russell Gibson
Send them in into Ross with UConn Comp. This written on the submission form and it gets done for nine cents. Nothing. You don't get nothing in this world for nine cents. You can't even get 30 cent cone from Maccas anymore, Ad.

00:49:58.45
Adz
They cost 50 cents and that's when they're on the loose change menu.

00:49:59.79
Russell Gibson
That's right. That's right. So nine cents is outrageous, really.

00:50:05.54
Adz
That's that's Yeah, there's no better value out there at all. Plus, you can make some money for that investment of $0.09. Oh,

00:50:13.07
Russell Gibson
That's right. It's possible. Alrighty. We're back guys. This is the final quarter. Thank you so much for tuning in and listening to us this week. We hope you've enjoyed this week's show. All right, Adam, I want to talk to you about Con Canapal.

00:50:26.81
Russell Gibson
Is this guy legit or is this guy rookie Hayes?

00:50:37.72
Adz
I think he's legit. think the kid is legit. Plays at a very ordinary team and he's actually standing out, which is which is surprising.

00:50:45.72
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:50:48.31
Adz
So yeah, I think he's legit. Kid can shoot.

00:50:52.47
Russell Gibson
I think my concern is that it's like Adam ah out of Morrison all over again. i can't shake that comparison. So I feel like until I get three years of really good basketball out of this kid, I just can't get rid of that.

00:51:07.93
Russell Gibson
And whether that's just my own like personal bias between white basketball players or not, you know I think there's like truly something going on there.

00:51:07.96
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:13.01
Adz
Yes.

00:51:14.90
Russell Gibson
My other concern with this guy too is like the marketing standpoint. like As much as he's had a better season, for example, than Ja Morant,

00:51:23.45
Adz
yes Yeah, that's fair.

00:51:24.03
Russell Gibson
think there's still a piece of my, at the back of my mind, i'm like, I'd probably rather buy a Jar Morant case hit than a Con Canaple case hit. And that's but that's probably wrong at this point in time.

00:51:36.12
Russell Gibson
But that's just like where my head is at until I see a bigger sample size from this kid. So, yeah.

00:51:40.36
Adz
That's fine, but that's that's like, the I suppose the the question you need to ask yourself is, it is he worth prospecting on? And if the horse is bolted on that, maybe he's not worth prospecting on.

00:51:49.56
Russell Gibson
Well, so let's yeah so let's go on and we can talk about some comps.

00:51:49.85
Adz
do Do you know what mean? Yeah, like ah it's like if he's,

00:51:53.83
Russell Gibson
I found this on Card Letter. Thanks again, Card Letter, for your awesome content. This was a s CGC Certified Authentic card that then goes through the Fanatics Collect um auction house.

00:52:06.21
Russell Gibson
It sold for $57,000. It's a one-of-one Topps Chrome rookie autograph.

00:52:12.60
Adz
Okay.

00:52:12.92
Russell Gibson
I actually don't mind the design on this either too. Like normally, you know, prism tops chrome autographs are a bit like whatever. It's good looking card. I feel like they've sort of slimmed it down a little bit.

00:52:24.15
Russell Gibson
It hasn't got all that multiple logos and all that type of stuff on it.

00:52:27.42
Adz
Yeah, it's nice.

00:52:28.42
Russell Gibson
It's a cool photograph. The prism patterning looks good. The price. I, I just feel like this is crazy for me. Like insane.

00:52:40.84
Adz
It's one of one.

00:52:43.67
Russell Gibson
I think this is like, for me, this is 10 out of 10 risk.

00:52:49.14
Adz
Yeah, the risk is right up there, right? But this is one of the cards that you want if you're taking.

00:52:51.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like this is either a home run or, a you know, you're striking out here.

00:52:57.59
Adz
Yeah, it's definitely not a Trae Young rookie by any means. It could be, who knows?

00:53:02.42
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:04.41
Adz
But yeah, like, yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's, that's pushing all your chips in if you're buying that.

00:53:09.05
Russell Gibson
Are you buying Con Canaple?

00:53:11.63
Adz
I'll hold on to them for a little bit and see what happens if I, if I pull them. I'm not actively shopping them, no.

00:53:17.80
Russell Gibson
But are you buying them?

00:53:18.24
Adz
No, I'm not. I'm not buying i'm I'm not buying at the moment.

00:53:20.98
Russell Gibson
How come you're buying Knoppel? Oh, okay.

00:53:22.48
Adz
It's not buying anything at the moment.

00:53:25.99
Russell Gibson
It's not because like you're like, oh, I'm not too sure about him.

00:53:26.14
Adz
la day no No, no, I'm sorry.

00:53:28.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah, 100%.

00:53:29.68
Adz
Yeah, it's ah i' I'm trying to to to remember sort my stuff out before I progress.

00:53:35.74
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:53:38.30
Adz
But yeah, he's definitely one to watch he's it and he's in the rookie of the year race for sure.

00:53:43.18
Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right This is from our a friend, Ryan at Gem Rate. Ryan, I hope you're well, man. hope life is treating you just so well. ah This is the 2025 leaderboard on eBay sales volume. And this is going to be the rare instance where we talk soccer, football, baseball, the whole thing.

00:54:01.40
Russell Gibson
One, Jordan, Shohei Otani, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Wambi, Jaden Daniels, Mickey Mantle, old school baseball, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Steph Curry, Caitlin Clark, Drake May, Aaron Judge, Luka, Caleb Williams, Ken Griffey Jr., Paul Skeens, Bo Nix, JJ McCarthy. Some of these players I know, some I don't. Josh Allen, SGA, Lionel Messi, my boy, Cooper Flagg, Lamin Amal, and Anthony Edwards. What has stood out to you on this list?

00:54:33.94
Adz
What stands out to me is

00:54:41.40
Adz
nothing actually stands out to me.

00:54:43.88
Russell Gibson
70 million bucks spent on Jordan, 57 on Shohei, 30 to LeBron, 30 to Kobe.

00:54:49.84
Adz
Yeah. Yeah. But this is Caitlin Clark might be a bit of a standout for me.

00:54:59.38
Russell Gibson
that's like That's huge, yeah. 21 million bucks on Kaitlin.

00:55:01.91
Adz
And that's not to discredit Caitlin Clark and the WNBA, but like volume of supporters and um weight of numbers, right?

00:55:07.13
Russell Gibson
No, man, it's crazy sauce. It is. It's wild, yeah.

00:55:09.42
Adz
Like she, she is, she's taken over the sport and, and really is, is carrying it, carrying the torch by herself. um I think what we're seeing there very clearly

00:55:28.37
Adz
It's interesting with basketball, because I'm um obviously looking at just the basketball stuff, but the names on the list, and I'll say with some exceptions down the bottom end, but the ones that are in the top two are proven stars.

00:55:45.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah. The studs aren't they? And you can see that by the money spent on them too.

00:55:47.77
Adz
Like... Yeah, yeah. and And this is...

00:55:50.50
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:55:51.97
Adz
I'll i'll take note of SGA and Anthony Edwards and Cooper Flagg because Cooper Flagg's the new Wemby. Wemby, obviously, is a bit of a standout at number five. That's a lot of money on Wemby.

00:56:01.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:56:03.55
Adz
But what I'm not seeing in that list is Jokic. I'm not seeing Giannis. Do you not... Like, there are... Nikola Jokic is a four-time MVP. He should be six. Anyway...

00:56:18.68
Adz
But do you know what I mean? Like the.

00:56:19.87
Russell Gibson
hundred percent.

00:56:22.01
Adz
Yeah.

00:56:23.14
Russell Gibson
There's some people missing from this list too.

00:56:26.20
Adz
Yes. But there's there's also, I think you you need to be at a certain caliber to warrant that level of popularity.

00:56:34.76
Russell Gibson
Jochit is 44th at million.

00:56:39.85
Adz
Okay.

00:56:41.29
Russell Gibson
yanis is forty ninth at five point one seven million

00:56:44.57
Adz
Yeah. Okay. Okay.

00:56:46.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Eamon Thompson was 47s with 5.32 million. So that actually just shows where, you know, I mean, look, Giannis didn't have a fantastic year last year though.

00:56:50.90
Adz
human

00:56:55.30
Russell Gibson
So I'm not like, that's not crazy surprising for me. um This is what I take away from this actually is the, like the big four, like the Mount Rushmore. So like, just sort of bear with me for two seconds.

00:57:08.89
Russell Gibson
Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Steph Curry, right? That's like the all time.

00:57:12.92
Adz
that's And that's literally, that's my Mount Rushmore at the moment.

00:57:14.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:15.68
Adz
So,

00:57:15.74
Russell Gibson
And then you go, okay, now there's like the young guys, Matt Rushmore. So we got Wemby on that.

00:57:20.99
Adz
Wemby, Luca, SJ, and Ant.

00:57:21.14
Russell Gibson
we got We got Luca. We got FBA. And you could do Cooper or you could do Anthony Edwards. That's kind of cool.

00:57:29.02
Adz
I think Ant's i think adds the second string, not QB5, yeah.

00:57:31.76
Russell Gibson
That's like, for me, that's like super sick, right? Because, and I think this is where I get caught up a little bit, even with my own collecting. It's like, what should I be putting my money into? So if you're like, this is the idiot's guide and you do, you want a 10 second explanation on what you should be buying. You look at this image and then you go, right, that's my like all-timer Rushmore and my young guys Rushmore. And that's it. And you go, this is the only eight guys I'm going to putting cash into.

00:57:55.83
Adz
I think, and and this is the thing, like the young guy Rushmore, I worry because I think that that varies season to season, right?

00:58:01.70
Russell Gibson
Oh man, there'll be like way more risk on that. Right. So, you know, you're sort of your high risk portfolio is this one.

00:58:06.74
Adz
Yeah.

00:58:06.83
Russell Gibson
And then, you know, you're more studs like proven dudes over here.

00:58:06.94
Adz
yeah

00:58:10.20
Adz
the the The four we mentioned on the the vet one is pretty much these cards are not going down in value.

00:58:11.13
Russell Gibson
That's, I like that.

00:58:21.05
Adz
Do you know what i mean? Like these, these, the Jordans, the Jordan, LeBron, Kobe and Curry.

00:58:26.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:58:27.42
Adz
If you buy a Curry card for $500 in 10 years, you're probably, but

00:58:31.02
Russell Gibson
Vet stuff, old school, it goes up and down, but it's not the same volatility as the young dudes for sure. Yeah.

00:58:36.78
Adz
you're not getting the Trey Young return. I'm going to pick on Trey Young now just because he's tanked, but you know what mean?

00:58:42.04
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:58:42.90
Adz
Like it's,

00:58:42.97
Russell Gibson
The chance of that happening is much diminished.

00:58:44.86
Adz
Their careers are done.

00:58:45.01
Russell Gibson
hundred percent. Yeah.

00:58:46.33
Adz
Their careers are done.

00:58:46.40
Russell Gibson
Yeah. yeah

00:58:47.21
Adz
Look, even though LeBron and Curry are still playing, their careers are ah well and truly in the twilight and they they've cemented themselves up on that.

00:58:51.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah. No, no. I get what you say, man. Yeah. You you don't have to like justify it. I think everyone gets what you're saying. Like, yeah.

00:58:58.80
Adz
Yeah, because that's the thing.

00:58:59.65
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:58:59.94
Adz
like kobe Kobe autos aren't going start going down. Yeah.

00:59:03.01
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:59:05.70
Russell Gibson
All right. I think we've got time for two more things tonight. Okay. So this next one is the, this is the Wemby patch that we referenced earlier on. This is from at tops on my favorite social platform, Twitter, just in the actual ball from Victor Wembeniata's 500th career block has been put inside a rare one of one autographed trading card.

00:59:26.28
Russell Gibson
He's autographed it. He's written 500th block on it. He's even dated on it too. It's got game use ball on it. It has got the photo of him blocking it. And then Dan, it's got some additional stats. Second youngest in NBA history with 500 clear blocks.

00:59:41.08
Russell Gibson
Again, 10 out of 10 on this. I am like, I am all about this tops now stuff.

00:59:46.66
Adz
Tops have really delivered on this stuff really, haven't they

00:59:49.43
Russell Gibson
This is the shit. So my understanding of this is you then you go on and you buy the packets and you'll, you'll get the base cards, but then one lucky person will get this amazing autograph.

01:00:02.69
Russell Gibson
Da da da da da. Yeah.

01:00:03.91
Adz
they? Game touched basketball.

01:00:06.87
Russell Gibson
So on January the 15th, just reading through the comments, they're available now for 72 hours. So again, my understanding of this is they print them to the demand of what they are.

01:00:15.70
Adz
Yeah.

01:00:16.24
Russell Gibson
So if there's 50,000 orders, they make 50,000 cards of these. So that's how that works.

01:00:21.32
Adz
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

01:00:21.72
Russell Gibson
um This is not an advertisement, by the way. This is generally something I'm just frothing over.

01:00:25.32
Adz
Tops now is awesome, though. They do a good job.

01:00:29.66
Russell Gibson
All righty. Jordan to finish is going to be a Jordan gold medallion.

01:00:35.93
Adz
Yeah, we're back to having Jordans hijacked by like SGA the other week.

01:00:39.86
Russell Gibson
been a couple of weeks since we've had a Jordan to finish.

01:00:39.97
Adz
That was gross.

01:00:41.82
Russell Gibson
I think we have spoken about Jordan the last couple of weeks, but nothing in particular. Alrighty. 1995 ultra Michael Jordan gold medallion, PSA 10, Last sold for $18,000 USD on the 11th of the 1st. That always confuses me when it's like the American date. And also now it's got 2026 on it. I was like, what's going on here? all right. The 11th of January, 26, $18,000 population. This is 26. I like that a lot. Market cap on this is nearly half a million bucks at $468,000.

01:01:17.75
Russell Gibson
I like this card a lot. I'm just going to keep probably saying what I say every week about these cards. I'm just like, what the hell is going on with these Jordan cards? Like, it's wild.

01:01:31.62
Russell Gibson
It's just, it's crazy.

01:01:31.82
Adz
It is the way they keep going up is is yeah, it's like

01:01:34.39
Russell Gibson
Is this a bubble? Is this real? Is this going to keep going up? And this is the new normal? I i don't know.

01:01:40.57
Adz
Who knows? Who knows?

01:01:43.45
Russell Gibson
Where are you at with this card, man?

01:01:45.01
Adz
It's a nice card. The gold is the doesn't do it justice.

01:01:47.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:01:47.78
Adz
But like you seeing it in hand, I think would be very different.

01:01:50.21
Russell Gibson
It would look way better in hand.

01:01:51.13
Adz
Yeah.

01:01:51.38
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:01:52.06
Adz
Yeah. But that would be shiny, shiny, shiny.

01:01:52.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:01:55.64
Adz
Very shiny. That's cool. I like it like it a lot. um

01:01:59.80
Russell Gibson
Would you buy, hold or sell that ad at that price?

01:01:59.99
Adz
And yet.

01:02:06.76
Adz
But knowing what they do, I'd have to hold, wouldn't I? Like I'd think about selling it, but you'd hold it.

01:02:17.59
Adz
look at that look at Look at the trajectory it's on.

01:02:20.92
Russell Gibson
yeah

01:02:21.50
Adz
Another five years, it's a $50,000 card. Do you know what i mean? Like where's the where's the ceiling on this stuff?

01:02:28.79
Russell Gibson
I just think I would rather even like a high number, like an autograph number to 100. I think I would rather that than something like this.

01:02:38.26
Adz
Fair.

01:02:39.32
Russell Gibson
I think that's where my head goes on this stuff.

01:02:40.69
Adz
That's not a, you know what?

01:02:41.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:42.05
Adz
Sell that and buy, buy your autograph memorabilia card that, that there's something you've, yeah.

01:02:45.11
Russell Gibson
Like the worst patch autograph you can get, I think I would rather have that than... ah Even if the corners were a bit beat up, you know, like I, yeah.

01:02:53.81
Adz
lower quality. Yeah, for sure. A hundred percent. I, I, I could, I can get behind that. That makes sense.

01:02:58.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:59.17
Adz
That makes sense to me.

01:03:01.40
Russell Gibson
Thank you, Adam.

01:03:02.84
Adz
Thanks Russell for another great show. Um, thanks to everybody that tuned in that ah on YouTube that that listens to us on their, their normal podcasts, uh, platforms that likes the reels that, that Russell shares up on Instagram.

01:03:08.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:03:21.06
Russell Gibson
That's it.

01:03:22.68
Adz
Yeah. Thanks to all the listeners. And yeah, if you, if you do buy us a coffee, we'll give you a special shout out on the show and we'll let you know what coffee we bought too.

01:03:33.08
Russell Gibson
Okay.

01:03:36.04
Russell Gibson
See you guys.

01:03:36.04
Adz
100%. See you next week.