Ep 256: Mount Rushmore Wars + SGA's $432K Kaboom Record Smashed!

Adam Amy & Russell Gibson debate the ultimate Mount Rushmore of basketball cards — listener picks go wild (Jordan in Lakers jersey? AI chaos ), heavy arguments on Jordan, Kobe, Steph, LeBron + rising stars.
We break down SGA’s record $432K green Kaboom 1/1, compare to Jokic rookie 1/1 ($177K), LeBron gold refractor rookie ($1.1M), Kobe Downtown jump ($188 → $16K), Steph SSP steal ($2,100).
NBA updates: Giannis & Ja injuries, Kuminga’s savage trade burn, Jimmy Butler season-ending, Kobe 81-pt game 20th anniversary.
Hobby insights, market comps, why Kabooms = next PMGs. Pure banter — don’t miss it!

Transcript

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Ta-da, we're on.

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Adz
Welcome, everybody, to episode 256 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast, where your hosts, Adam, Amy, and Russell Gibson.

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Adz
coming in

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Russell Gibson
What's up, everyone?

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Adz
We're a little bit early today on the live stream.

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Russell Gibson
We are.

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Adz
We've got a public holiday tomorrow, so we thought we'd get in before dinner. i don't know about you, but I might be hitting bevvies tonight. Anyway, I've got good day off tomorrow.

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Russell Gibson
Any excuse, right? Honestly. It's the Australian way.

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Adz
Yeah, celebrating celebrations. Exactly. Yes. Beyond an Australian of me not to celebrate.

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Russell Gibson
Exactly.

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Adz
Anyway, big week in basketball. Is it?

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Russell Gibson
always something going on, man.

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Adz
All-star games on its way. Trade rumors everywhere. don't know.

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Russell Gibson
More injuries. That's probably the big thing for me this week.

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Adz
Yeah. Disappointing. Some.

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Russell Gibson
Giannis and Ja, that's like massive loss for the league.

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Adz
ah

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Adz
Yeah, I was looking at like the quality of some of the injuries and I keep questioning whether or not are they tactical injuries for trade deadline stuff or is it a legitimate injury?

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Adz
Like they they got ah they've got a strained, some unknown muscle that no one really knows about.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, totally.

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Adz
and it's like, does that keep someone out of a game of basketball? Probably not.

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Russell Gibson
That's a legit injury. That's a reason to keep someone injured, isn't it?

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Adz
f and Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like they need to be in street clothes so they can leave at at halftime of the game once they get traded.

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Russell Gibson
ah

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Adz
Shout-outs to Trey Young. um

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Russell Gibson
This week's show, we're going to talk about the Mount Rushmore of basketball cards.

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Adz
Yes.

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Russell Gibson
We're going to talk about SGA Kaboom. And this is the thing I would actually like to kick off with number one, but we've agreed to run at number two. We're also going to talk about Nicole Jokic, one of one that went for sale, a LeBron rookie that sold for 1.1 million.

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Russell Gibson
So I think we should definitely break that down.

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Adz
Nice.

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Russell Gibson
We're going to talk about Cooper Flagg. We're going talk about a burn, that Mike Dunleavy delivered to Jonathan Kuminga this week. so Unfortunately, we've got some bad news about Jimmy Butler.

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Russell Gibson
Steph Curry sale, which I think is going to be one for the ages. We've got a Kobe downtown for you ad and a whole bunch more.

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Adz
Nice.

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Russell Gibson
So guys, stick around for the next hour or so.

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Adz
nice

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Russell Gibson
100.

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Adz
But first and foremost, I just wanted to say thank you to all the listeners and open up by saying thank you for all the support that you give us week in, week out.

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Russell Gibson
one hundred

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Adz
But if you do like what we're we're doing, there's other ways you can support the show. the first The first way, of course, is by liking our videos, by sharing the content, by commenting when we when we suggest that you you make a comment down below in the comments if you're on YouTube. or on Facebook or Instagram or one of the many platforms we're on. The other way you can support the show is by...

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Adz
buying us a coffee. There's actually a link in every episode description where you can click on that.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Adz
it'll You can give a one-time donation or you can can give us an ongoing contribution for for every episode that we do. So just search on the podcast description.

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Adz
You'll see the link there. Click that, follow that. But if you haven't got any money, of course, just keep doing what you're doing. Share our content, like it, comment. Let us know that you're you're thinking of us.

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Russell Gibson
100%.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
It's awesome getting comments and stuff like that from people.

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Adz
It is.

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Russell Gibson
All right, so let's just sort of walk our way into this first topic. It's about the Mount Rushmore of card collecting. And we came into this basically on accident last week when we're going through the 2025 sales.

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Russell Gibson
But it's something that's been on my mind this week, and I've actually been really enjoying thinking about it.

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Adz
o

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Russell Gibson
I put up a few posts onto different pages, and actually, we've got so many responses, we won't be able read through them all. So guys,

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Adz
Yeah, yeah.

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Russell Gibson
I'm sorry, but we literally just don't have the time to read through every single one. But I will just say this. Thank you so much to everyone that did comment.

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Adz
Hey, it's good that there's a bit of competition now, right? They meat they can't just give us half-thought-out answers that aren't meeting the criteria and give us some quality.

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Russell Gibson
Wow. We're going to have to be ruthless, aren't we?

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Adz
Give us some quality.

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Russell Gibson
That's right. Yeah.

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Adz
taking a

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Russell Gibson
that We'll start reading through.

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Adz
Paint the picture for us, Russell. I feel like we're taking we're taking a stroll through the National Park. We're looking up at Mount Rushmore. There's a few souvenir stands.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Adz
there's some smaller mountains, but na no, no, no.

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Russell Gibson
Have you ever been there in real life? Yeah, me neither. It's on my bucket list though. Anyway.

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Adz
you haven't You haven't been there? Is that why Jordan's wearing a Lakers jersey?

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Russell Gibson
So let's just start off with the actual picture that I put up. It was clearly a Tmue version that was created by ChatGPT. um It was Larry Jordan. Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
Michael Johnson Hansel from Zoolander.

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Adz
ah

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Russell Gibson
That's who like the the middle guy looks like to me.

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Adz
Goodness gracious. was good.

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Russell Gibson
oh So starting with Instagram, with the video that we put up, we've got Andy Cartwright, 14. And we've got a massive shout out to Andy later on the show too. Iverson, Duncan, Kobe, and Jordan. And I think that's a fantastic way to start.

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Adz
Nice.

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Russell Gibson
And I think the first and the obvious comment to attached to this one is that everyone's answer is going to be different and all of these answers are going to be correct. And I think this is the fun part about the hobby. And it's also the fun part about this conversation.

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Russell Gibson
You know, you can answer this from whichever way you want to look at it, from your own personal PC, from investing, from future investing, you know, however you want your Mount Rushmore to be.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
It's super cool.

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Adz
Yeah. That's it.

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Russell Gibson
ah That new card smell, Gary Payton, Sean Kemp, Detlef Shrimp, and Ray Allen. So they're all Oklahoma slash Seattle guys. That's my the thread that I'm catching on that one there.

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Russell Gibson
That's a pretty cool list. Detlef Shrimp, I think all of these cards, you'll be really nice cards off for not too much money, to be honest with you. I haven't seen a lot of Detlef, and I haven't seen a lot of Ray Allen autos.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
That's the only one. Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
um and Andy Cartwright again, we've got, how about players you think are undervalued right now with a potential upside?

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Adz
Any others?

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Russell Gibson
I'm currently looking at Keontae George and Jalen Johnson. Any more you can think of? So I think if we're doing this in the sense of the Mount Rushmore, I think the best way to do this is to go to that gem rate data and actually then break it down from that.

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Russell Gibson
So I think the answer there you'd be looking at is like Luka Doncic, SGA, you'd be looking at Cooper Flagg, Anthony Edwards, because I think in my mind, you're answering it in that sort of um like Mount Rushmore sort of way.

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Russell Gibson
But actually, maybe the one who's got the most opportunity to grow is Steph Curry. I think if you're looking him as an all-timer on the actual Mount Rushmore and the value of his cards that are still floating around, comparing it to like the big dogs is almost insulting in some way.

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Adz
okay

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Russell Gibson
So that's how I'm going to answer that one. I think if you're looking at those sort of more like prospecting type guys, I don't personally think they should be on the Mount Rushmore. um I think Conte George is super risky because he's a jazz guy and I love Jalen Johnson, but his usage has actually gone down since they traded away Trey, Trey young and see CJ McCollum is the point guard.

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Russell Gibson
So yeah, look, I think it's not

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Adz
Would you call it Mount Mount Strollmore rather than Mount Rushmore?

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Russell Gibson
maybe.

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Adz
I don't know. I just like for the for the prospecting one, it's probably not the big, the big one.

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Russell Gibson
A hundred percent.

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Adz
I don't know, something like your your team, Timu image.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, definitely.

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Russell Gibson
that's right

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Adz
Deontay George is not and on the mountain. 100%.

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Russell Gibson
Just really quickly on Jalen Johnson though, it's too early to panic on that guy because the sample size with CJ McCollum is very small, but at the same time, CJ, give the rock up, mate.

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Adz
hundred percent Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
Give it to Jalen Johnson. That's where your bread is buttered.

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Adz
Come on, a good mid-season overreaction. And yeah, panic is is is is always always good before the All-Star game.

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Russell Gibson
No.

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Adz
Anyway.

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Russell Gibson
All right. If we go to the You Can't Comp this Facebook page and we sort it by all comments. Amir came in first. So, G'day, Amir. Hope you're well, mate. He's absolutely a friend of the show. 6.5 is the over-under for MJ in a Lakers jersey mentions. All right. So,

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Russell Gibson
i don't know. I think and think we're going to be under on this one.

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Adz
You reckon? There's a few.

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Russell Gibson
I think so.

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Adz
Actually, no, there's actually not that many. I think people just like the comment rather than... it's Yeah. Yeah. god There's actually a lot of people that have had a crack at doing their own image.

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Russell Gibson
uh,

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Adz
I like it.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, 100%. So Timothy Price, Jordan and le LeBron, are easy selections as the first two for me. After that, I think there's a lot more debate. Yeah, I'm with you, Timothy. It's super hard. I've gone Bill Russell, 11 chips is crazy, and Steph Curry, as his players change the way the game is played as a whole. 100%, that's true.

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Russell Gibson
My Rushmore needs four more than four heads. And 100%, and that's what makes this actually fun because you have to limit it down to four people.

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Adz
ah one

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Russell Gibson
So

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Adz
but can Can I weigh in on that? I would argue that LeBron's not the top two lock on Rushmore. cut Hobby-wise, I don't think.

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Russell Gibson
Sure.

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Adz
I think it's Jordan and Kobe.

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Russell Gibson
Well, actually let's do your Rushmore. Let's do your Rushmore.

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Adz
but but It's Jordan, Kobe, ah Steph, and then LeBron's my fourth just because of longevity, I think.

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Russell Gibson
Let's go.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Adz
um And that's hobby-wise. and And I think there's a chance that, that yeah, hes he's in fourth and his spot's in jeopardy.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Adz
Like, I'm not debating any, like, where he sits in the greatest players of all time, but I'm talking hobby-wise. I just, I think there is a clear, clear one-two in Jordan and Kobe.

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Adz
But we'll see what happens with with Steph and LeBron because they haven't retired yet.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, definitely.

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Adz
You know what I mean? Like there's there's different circumstances around that and there's the the autographs are becoming more readily available for LeBron. Like I don't know. i Maybe there's a little bit of bias there, but I think i think the top two are definitely Kobe and I think number three on that's Steph without locking where LeBron ends up.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Adz
And that's not that's not shade at LeBron again.

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Russell Gibson
So For me personally, I'm going Hakeem and Fox. That's my two personal PC ones. And then for genuine like hobby choices, I'm going with Kobe and Steph Curry. And the reason I'm going with that is like I'm actually really scared of the MJ market at the moment. I think it's some of these prices that we're talking about week in week like actually scares me.

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Russell Gibson
I just really feel as though, where is this Jordan stuff all going to end? like Is it a bubble? like I really don't know. Whereas when I'm buying to Kobe, like yeah, the prices have gone up a lot, but I still think there's a little bit more room there. And Steph Curry in particular, I think there's a lot more room for that to grow. So that's why I'm sort of going with it like that.

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Adz
what if What if, and this is ah only a tiny segue, what if you had if no interest in the hobby in general? You came in and you go, you know what? I want a piece of art for my collection and the piece of art I want is a sports card.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Adz
And were like I'm going to get an athlete for each kind of thing. Who's your basketball hobby? It's Jordan. I mean, I'm a Kobe player. collector and and kobe's at the top of my mount rushmore but if i have the if i was to offer advice to somebody to buy one sports card it would be jordan and i think that that that puts him at the top of rushmore like

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Russell Gibson
I think he's very liquid at the moment. I think you can buy and sell Jordan a lot, but I, yeah, I just, I think, yeah, and that's true, but I just think that there's some Jordan stuff at the moment that i think it's going to end badly for some people.

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Adz
i think he'll be just as liquid in 20 years

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Russell Gibson
Not all of it.

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Adz
Really interesting.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, I do, man. Like some of this stuff with the high pop that's selling for 20K plus.

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Adz
ah but But how does the narrative change about Jordan being the greatest of all time?

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Russell Gibson
Because I think something that,

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Adz
I don't think it can. I actually don't think it can.

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Russell Gibson
No, it's not going to. And I'm not even trying to argue that. What I'm just trying to say is that you have to look at each card individually. And yeah, like the common theme there is Jordan, but some of this vintage stuff does go up and down. Like it's not all money in the bank. And we've seen vintage fluctuate a lot, even in the last five years or particularly in the last five years, but even the last two years, you know, like look at Duncan rookies, for example, they're being up and up and down like a rollercoaster.

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Adz
I just, I think if there's anything that you can, you can say this, ain't this isn't crashing. and it's It's a Jordan. I mean, i would say Kobe's at the top of mind, but.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
Look, there's some Jordans, you buy them at 100%, it's a fantastic thing.

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Adz
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
but that's Yeah, definitely not that.

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Adz
Interesting.

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Russell Gibson
You want to do Mark Smith, mate?

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Adz
Mark Smith. Oh, he's got, he's actually gone and got the photo. I love it.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah. He's killed that.

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Adz
And there's a theme. It's just the San Antonio Spurs. we've had Coach Pop is the first coach that's getting some hobby hubby hobby love.

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Russell Gibson
I so badly want to pop auto, it's not funny at this point.

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Adz
We've got tim ah sorry David Robinson, Tim Duncan, and Manu Ginobili.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's sick.

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Adz
that is um That's a really cool – it's very, very well done by the AI. I reckon someone pays more for their AI than they've got a subscription.

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Russell Gibson
Quite possibly.

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Adz
Yep, yep, 100%.

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Russell Gibson
Gareth Fraser, Chamberlain, Jordan, Bird, Russell, Tough, Leaving, Magic, Kobe, West, Jabbar, Curry, Robinson off, but it's only four choices. 100%. It's it tough.

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Adz
It's true.

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Russell Gibson
ah

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Adz
It's true. There's some good images here. Damo, Winterbond. We've got Kobe, Jordan. Is that Rodman?

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Russell Gibson
That's Rodman, definitely.

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Adz
And Kareem.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Adz
i like it. It's different. I mean, Rodman would probably just like the the mountain wouldn't be standing if Rodman was on there, but it'd be, get there'd be, it'd be a new, there'd be a cave there.

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Russell Gibson
Well, oh they'd be doing a party on it.

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Adz
We'd just go in for like a party or something.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah. And there'd be a pole in the middle and something like that. now

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Adz
i'm I'm sure.

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Russell Gibson
I feel like Damo was born in the eighties though. And he grew up watching nineties basketball.

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Adz
Yeah. I think, I think there's a, there's an undertone there.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah. James Gregory, Marvin Williams, Shaq, Vince Carter, Derek Rose, and Kamala Anthony. So I'm going to leave Kamala Anthony off just to keep it to four. But of course, Marvin Williams was James' number one.

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Russell Gibson
That's mint James. Good work.

00:15:07.38
Adz
I think maybe maybe James is actually saying these are Marvin's. Marvin Williams' top four is Shaq, Vince Carter, D.

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Russell Gibson
His picks, yeah. Shaq, Vince Carter.

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Adz
Rose, Carmelo Anthony.

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Russell Gibson
It makes more sense, really, doesn't it

00:15:18.07
Adz
Yeah, there we go. What have we got? We've got Oivin Holen. We've got using some unholy mix of favorites and best. would say Jokic, Curry, Paddy Mills, and Boris Diaw.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
I've never ever.

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Adz
Who's more controversial being on Mount Rushmore, Patty Mills or Boris Diaw?

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Russell Gibson
DL by far.

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Adz
yes

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Russell Gibson
I mean, I'm not too sure what's worse. DL or Marvin Williams.

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Adz
I don't know. Are we on Mount Rushmore or are we at the souvenir stand down at the bottom of the mountain? I'll tell you what, this is, you know, like you go and bot and knock off souvenirs and it's like, what's that?

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Russell Gibson
You mean the team who runs?

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Adz
Finding, yeah, finding a Batman in your Marvel heroes box of toys.

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Russell Gibson
yes

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Adz
Yeah.

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Russell Gibson
um Robbie Young Jordan, LeBron, Luka, Steph Curry Yeah, that's a good one, man Yeah

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Adz
um he he LeBron for Kobe and then I'll agree. Because i would take I would take LeBron off for Luka if everything goes right. Although Matthew Hull doesn't agree.

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Russell Gibson
Okay He does not That's his answer

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Adz
Not Luka is his answer.

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Russell Gibson
And I asked him to clarify, but he was just like, yeah, that's it. Not Luca. Done.

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Adz
Oh, goodness. yeah i um Yeah, I think that's it. Can I put a vote in for the... for the fera Tama Jr.'s one, which is the the other image.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, go.

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Adz
It's Kobe, Jordan, Steph, and Luka.

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Russell Gibson
Sick image, by the way, too.

00:16:49.59
Adz
Looks like Luka's in the wrong jersey.

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Russell Gibson
I could actually put that up on my wall.

00:16:54.39
Adz
He should be in his Lakers one, but that's okay.

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Russell Gibson
Yep.

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Adz
That's okay.

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Russell Gibson
and I feel like Kobe's mustache is like Jordan's mustache.

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Adz
But yes.

00:17:02.20
Adz
Yeah, yeah. Well, he emulated every part of his game. He may as well, um yeah, grow the moe.

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Russell Gibson
Grow his mustache too. Yeah. ah Last one here, Jared Begg. For me, it's MJ and Westbrook as I PC them. We'll add Kobe and LeBron for the hobby impact.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's, I feel like that's kind of how I answer mine to be honest.

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Adz
Legit.

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Russell Gibson
sort of did two and two.

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Adz
I just wanted hobby impact. I just, I thought I'd try and try and obey the rules and do the, do the right thing.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah.

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Adz
ah What have we got?

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Russell Gibson
So I think we go to the addicts one and just pick a couple off that.

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Adz
Addicts ones. I've got ah i'll got ah i'll get a few out of here.

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Russell Gibson
and

00:17:36.61
Adz
There's some some interesting ones. I was talking before about the potential of people going to the the souvenir tourist shops at the bottom of Mount Rushmore and buying their own custom-made souvenirs.

00:17:47.96
Adz
There's a few here.

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Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:17:49.24
Adz
um I'll kick it off with with Luke Adams, who's got Jordan, Magic, Bird, and Kareem. I would push it back and say we are talking about collecting Mount Rushmore, not the actual greatest of all time Mount Rushmore, but...

00:18:05.05
Adz
And no, just look, each to their own. Elliot Dean, Kemp, Griffin, Ingalls and Mills.

00:18:14.39
Adz
That's it. that's that That's like a little wheelbarrow with some stick figures for sale. That's an interesting interesting Mount Rushmore, that's for sure. um Maybe it's not Mount Rushmore, maybe it's down the road.

00:18:27.19
Russell Gibson
ah

00:18:28.23
Adz
It was one of the other lookouts. um Where's another one? I saw a couple of funny ones here. um i

00:18:34.25
Russell Gibson
Cody Martin.

00:18:35.32
Adz
Well, we've got one saying, I def wouldn't have Jordan wearing LeBron's jersey. That's for sure.

00:18:40.18
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:18:40.79
Adz
So we're at two.

00:18:41.27
Russell Gibson
thats That's one more for the over-under, yeah.

00:18:42.90
Adz
One more for the over-under. We're still on the unders. um William Hogan, LeBron, Ray Allen, Jalen Suggs, and Vince Carter. It's a early to have Suggs up on... um

00:18:56.02
Russell Gibson
I think Suggs is a PC choice at that point, isn't it, really?

00:18:58.46
Adz
Yeah, I feel like.

00:18:58.61
Russell Gibson
100%.

00:18:59.60
Adz
But it's ah it's your own personal Mount Rushmore. It feels like some of these might have been built as sand pits out in the backyard, but strictly, okay, no, no, we've got, a ah where's a good one?

00:19:02.49
Russell Gibson
hundred cent

00:19:12.22
Adz
ah Dylan Brooks, Muggsy, AI, Kobe, Joker. I've got to take one off of those, so we'll take our AI off because he's a no-show. Anyone in Australia would get that joke.

00:19:24.52
Russell Gibson
It's too soon for AI jokes not turning up to appearances that little kids paid for, isn't it?

00:19:25.55
Adz
We'll see. Well, he's not turning up to this one So going have Dylan Brooks, Muggsy Bogues, Kobe and Joker on Maze. Right. What was the, ah there was a really good one back here and it was cross sport.

00:19:40.85
Adz
And I wanted to read. Before I get to that one, Kyrie Hugh. We've got MJ, KB, RW, and Shaq. Kyrie has not responded to Russell's question of RW question mark.

00:19:52.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:19:54.03
Adz
Joe Fu has suggested it's Rashid Wallace. And clearly, I've been the adjudicator on this. It is Robert Williams.

00:20:02.23
Russell Gibson
Well, it could be Russell Westbrook. 100%.

00:20:05.12
Adz
No, it's definitely Robert Williams. There's no, there's no, and Kyrie hasn't said anything. So what do you guys think? RW, the initials, let us know in the in the comments and um of the video. and

00:20:16.79
Russell Gibson
hundred percent

00:20:17.91
Adz
I don't know. It's it's it's it's a mystery.

00:20:21.11
Russell Gibson
Absolutely is. Look, I think we tie this one up here. ad Thanks everyone for jumping in and sharing all of your contributions. That was really fun to go through. We really appreciate it I'm sorry if we didn't get to read out your answers.

00:20:33.42
Russell Gibson
We just literally ran out of time.

00:20:34.99
Adz
Oh, no, i've got I've got the ultimate Mount Rushmore here. This is the final the finale.

00:20:37.53
Russell Gibson
Oh, you got one, man. all right. Okay. Okay.

00:20:40.91
Adz
Lee Peel, the hobby Mount Rushmore, Otani, Charizard, LeBron, and Blue Eyes White Dragon. Think he got LeBron wrong.

00:20:49.80
Russell Gibson
It's not.

00:20:50.67
Adz
Should have been Jordan, but yeah.

00:20:51.99
Russell Gibson
Sure. The theme is correct though, isn't it? Like yeah spreading out your wings, looking at all different investment sources.

00:20:55.01
Adz
100%. 100%. that fun. hundred percent good that was fun

00:21:03.36
Russell Gibson
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00:21:19.03
Russell Gibson
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00:21:43.35
Russell Gibson
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00:21:55.62
Russell Gibson
ads. We're back, buddy.

00:21:59.02
Adz
We are. We are.

00:22:00.12
Russell Gibson
How you doing?

00:22:01.15
Adz
I'm good. That was lot of fun, that last second.

00:22:02.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:22:04.45
Adz
Fun.

00:22:04.72
Russell Gibson
Let's do a couple of shout outs and then we'll move on to our next segment.

00:22:08.06
Adz
Yes.

00:22:08.89
Russell Gibson
First shout out is from Joe Fu. Had the thought today while listening to the pod, wash it in Washington are already very poorly ranked on both offense and defense. And Trae Young is actually a negative on defense that whatever offense he generates is canceled out potentially. So wouldn't it be better for Washington to let him play, entertain the people and sell some tickets as opposed to him sitting on...

00:22:30.58
Russell Gibson
on the bench for the rest of the season while still paying him $46 million dollars to ride the pine because as we see, his trade value is clearly not great. I believe this goes into your theory, Ad, that the Wizards would actually be worse if they played Trey Young.

00:22:47.48
Adz
Yeah, I think there's there's little value in in playing trade this trade this season.

00:22:54.65
Adz
Well, actually, there probably is value in they want to tank, don't they?

00:22:54.65
Russell Gibson
I think...

00:22:58.13
Russell Gibson
that's what yeah That's what I thought you were saying the other week.

00:22:58.62
Adz
So run him.

00:23:01.08
Russell Gibson
I mean, I see why they're holding him out, though. I think that gives their rookies a chance to play. They've got a very young roster otherwise. And if they're trying to...

00:23:07.87
Adz
Regardless of his quality, though like the fact is, if he's still a bit injured, let him let him get healthy.

00:23:14.46
Russell Gibson
I think that's the other thing, too. like You just build up a bit of relationship equity with him, let him get healthy, pay him his cash, give him another bag, extend him out.

00:23:18.06
Adz
Well,

00:23:23.48
Adz
well he's a point guard, right? So if you have him in and around the playing group watching, he'll be able to actually fit in better when he physically starts playing more.

00:23:33.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Card Sharky Marky, just to another shout out for this gentleman.

00:23:34.63
Adz
Let him.

00:23:38.39
Russell Gibson
Shared our content, gave us some shout out on his PC reveal stuff, but also to check out his content. He's doing a four part PC reveal series. It's actually looking really good.

00:23:48.98
Russell Gibson
So I can't, can't wait to see the rest of it, man.

00:23:49.18
Adz
Nice.

00:23:54.58
Adz
We've got Andy Cartwright 14. Just want to say as well, I've been listening to you now for about a year and your content is brilliant.

00:24:03.51
Russell Gibson
Thank you, sir.

00:24:03.63
Adz
I've just got just got into collecting cards and your information on current old buy, hold, sell content is second to none.

00:24:10.62
Russell Gibson
Well, thank you, sir. That's all we can say on that.

00:24:12.95
Adz
Yeah, well, you say you can't comp this.

00:24:16.16
Russell Gibson
Well, maybe.

00:24:16.23
Adz
Is that really? can. I know. We can. Mm.

00:24:21.70
Russell Gibson
right. Moving into our next segment. This is about SGA and it's really about kabooms. And I think I'm just standing in my own echo tunnel is point of pointing time and I'm sort of picking out information that suits my narrative, but I don't care.

00:24:34.87
Russell Gibson
i genuinely believe that Kabooms are going to be the next PMGs. And I think we're starting to see some crazy sales on these. And I think we're starting to build up enough evidence that I'm not feeling so ridiculous in this sort of statement that I've made. So just this week, like literally within the last couple of days,

00:24:54.36
Russell Gibson
the highest SGA card ever has sold, which was on January the 23rd. And it's, yeah, and it sold for $432,000.

00:25:00.57
Adz
So like two days ago, Yep.

00:25:04.60
Russell Gibson
Now that's obviously the number one sale for SGA and it's number two ever for Kabooms. And number one is a Tom Brady one of one, which sold for $660,000.

00:25:14.39
Adz
yep

00:25:16.76
Russell Gibson
So obviously different sport, different athlete, but at the same time, we're still talking about Kabooms. So, I thought this would be a great time for us to break this down, you know, a little bit further.

00:25:29.46
Russell Gibson
What's your thoughts on this so far, Ed? Yeah.

00:25:32.12
Adz
ah Look, i think the I think we've all agreed that the the the modern day PMG is is the kaboom. I think we've still got a ways to go to work out what that looks like in ah in a relativity scale.

00:25:46.87
Adz
Obviously, the PMG is having the the smaller print run and kabooms coming out over a sequence of years, but

00:25:47.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:25:54.04
Adz
I think there is a parallel and we'll work out to a, to a baseline at some point. I think they're a good investment and these green one of ones are definitely the, um the cream of the crop is, is the way I see it.

00:26:06.55
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:08.87
Adz
It's a one of one, which puts it above your your average Kaboom, even the gold one. um But yeah, like it's interesting that the top four are all, all sort of different, different sports, two basketball, one WNBA, one NBA, but

00:26:23.16
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:26:23.67
Adz
Yeah, we've got football, soccer, NBA, WNBA as our top four.

00:26:27.80
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So let's, we can actually just break down those a little bit. So number three is Caitlin Clark at 340 K messy.

00:26:30.49
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:33.56
Russell Gibson
Is it number four, at one 92 K number five, we've got Tom Brady again.

00:26:34.49
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:38.26
Adz
that's the That's that same Brady though. Is it?

00:26:43.13
Russell Gibson
Yeah, you're right. So it's just sold three years apart. Correct.

00:26:46.36
Adz
Three years apart.

00:26:46.83
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:26:47.04
Adz
So it's actually three X in three years.

00:26:50.46
Russell Gibson
Delicious.

00:26:51.51
Adz
three Yeah, three and a half years.

00:26:52.24
Russell Gibson
Good pickup.

00:26:53.56
Adz
Yeah.

00:26:53.96
Russell Gibson
Mahomes is next at 155. And then Clay Thompson, which we spoke about this in the podcast a couple of weeks ago. That's it.

00:26:59.64
Adz
Wanting to know if that was, yeah, if like, if that was a good spot for it.

00:27:04.21
Russell Gibson
110 K and then this is the one we can also talk about just really quickly.

00:27:05.38
Adz
Hmm.

00:27:08.09
Russell Gibson
This is a Jason Tatum. It was a lot of three. So it's the gold to 10, the silver kaboom, and then he's rookie green. One of one, this sold for $103,000. And I think if you're just direct comping that to the clay Thompson that sold in August, 2024, how much that will have gone up in that time.

00:27:31.10
Adz
that That those three combined, if that's not worth, if that's not bigger than the SGA, I'll be shocked.

00:27:38.73
Russell Gibson
Oh, really?

00:27:39.78
Adz
It's a rookie card, isn't it?

00:27:42.90
Russell Gibson
i think at the moment though, Shay is super hot. I think Tatum's injured at the moment. Yes, I do agree it's one, but Tatum's rookie.

00:27:48.63
Adz
Oh, wait, is the Tatum the rookie?

00:27:52.15
Adz
So it's a green one of one rookie. So color match to the Boston Celtics, one of one.

00:27:57.59
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I think all of, i mean, all of that is true, man. And I'm definitely not disagreeing with you on that, but I think like the market for Tatum at the moment isn't super hot. Whereas, you know what I'm saying?

00:28:08.22
Russell Gibson
Like SGA at the moment is like, I'm just, I'm channeling my inner Zoolander right now.

00:28:09.55
Adz
Oh, yeah, yeah. That bubble will but that bubble will burst. don't

00:28:14.02
Russell Gibson
Just so hot right now, you know?

00:28:15.71
Adz
know.

00:28:16.31
Russell Gibson
the

00:28:16.38
Adz
I just like those three cards for 100K, that person's made a lot of money.

00:28:22.74
Russell Gibson
I think at least doubled, maybe tripled. I think that's a pretty chill thing to say. Like if the Clay Thompson did 110. Yeah.

00:28:31.28
Adz
know, because it's got a rookie shield on it. It's just it it hits that bit differently for me.

00:28:37.14
Russell Gibson
yeah All right, so my next two comments about this is actually you're talking about like this being the cream of the crop. I actually don't like the green color that much. I actually prefer the silver. I think that's like aesthetically pleasing.

00:28:49.02
Russell Gibson
And the gold for me holds a very special place in my heart.

00:28:49.34
Adz
yeah

00:28:51.62
Russell Gibson
like The green is kind of an icky thing. like But I was thinking about this. What color could they have used instead?

00:28:56.18
Adz
Black. Black or Nebula style.

00:28:58.87
Russell Gibson
i I wonder if black... didn't print well or something like that, but I'm yeah yeah.

00:29:01.75
Adz
No, like, but what about Nebula?

00:29:05.23
Russell Gibson
Hang on a second. That with the kaboom overlay. Oh man, that would have cooked.

00:29:11.06
Adz
that That is the design.

00:29:13.08
Russell Gibson
That would have cooked.

00:29:15.32
Adz
Like that's a cosmic level explosion. Like, do you know what I mean? Like that nebula hit.

00:29:19.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:21.08
Adz
Oh, they missed and they chose green.

00:29:22.07
Russell Gibson
Yeah. A hundred percent.

00:29:23.87
Adz
Yeah,

00:29:26.09
Russell Gibson
It's a weird color, isn't it?

00:29:27.45
Adz
yeah it is. Well, even if they use the light blue that they used to use for the one of one.

00:29:28.28
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:34.42
Adz
you know what mean?

00:29:35.32
Russell Gibson
Yeah, light blue would even be better. Final thoughts on this, and then we'll bring some other cards into the conversation, and we will comp them directly to it.

00:29:44.92
Adz
While I do think they overpaid for the SGA, I do think the the future trajectory of these cards is upwards.

00:29:53.27
Russell Gibson
Really? You think it's an overpay?

00:29:55.10
Adz
um um'm I'm still not, I'm still the jury. For me, i don't think SGA is um a solid hobby investment.

00:30:04.95
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:30:06.52
Adz
Too many parallels to Westbrook and Harden for my liking at the moment, aside from the championship thing that,

00:30:13.66
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:30:16.00
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. So our first card that we're going comp to that SGA sale is from our friends at Card Letter. This recently sold on Fanatics Collect on, again, January 23rd. It is a LeBron James rookie card, number 250, the gold refractor, PSA 10.

00:30:30.46
Russell Gibson
It sold for $1.1 million. I'm just going to discard that $10,000 was also added in there. It's just easier to say at 1.1 million.

00:30:38.19
Adz
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

00:30:39.58
Russell Gibson
All right. So let's just... Do a really quick commentary on this and then let's comp it straight back to the SGA. So I love this sale. I think this is very shrewd. There was a time when people were talking about MJ rookie cards being a million bucks.

00:30:54.20
Russell Gibson
I hate that for so many reasons because the print runs unknown. There's a fakes going around everywhere. This is number to 50 and PSA 10. Like this to me makes sense at a million dollars.

00:31:04.90
Russell Gibson
I've got no problems with this. I think this is not the top of the mountain for LeBron, so this is going to be a very long-term hold, but it's going to be totally fine. The super fun question about this, is this a Wondershine card?

00:31:20.12
Adz
Yes. Oh, is it ah it in their actual collection or is it a card that they would get?

00:31:25.34
Russell Gibson
Yeah. No, no, is it in the collection?

00:31:27.74
Adz
ne

00:31:28.53
Russell Gibson
Like, do you think that Wondershine bought this card?

00:31:29.75
Adz
You reckon they're the ones that won it?

00:31:32.57
Russell Gibson
I mean, look, there's, i think,

00:31:34.21
Adz
Or bought it? It's ah potential.

00:31:38.53
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:31:39.43
Adz
It's potential. it it it's It's not the roundest of numbers, but it's also not the not roundest of numbers.

00:31:42.52
Russell Gibson
True. It's not a squiggly number though, is it?

00:31:46.60
Adz
Definitely.

00:31:47.29
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:31:48.10
Adz
Definitely. It's...

00:31:49.17
Russell Gibson
What's your thoughts on this cut?

00:31:49.24
Adz
um Oh, look, i think I think LeBron rookie cards are ah are going to going to see a rise in the coming years when LeBron's no longer playing in the league.

00:32:02.87
Adz
So, yeah, smart, wise investment.

00:32:03.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:32:06.10
Russell Gibson
All right, now let's comp this straight back. 1.1 million for the LeBron rookie. Oh, we've got this green kde kabom for four hundred and thirty two K 432K. So let's just call it 2.5 times.

00:32:16.70
Adz
What? SGA, you mean?

00:32:18.87
Russell Gibson
Sorry. Yeah, SGA kaboom for 2.

00:32:21.18
Adz
If it was Kate, I'd have a different note.

00:32:21.77
Russell Gibson
I don't even know why I said K. Is he on my mind? I don't think so. Maybe he is in my subconscious.

00:32:29.21
Adz
um i would i think

00:32:30.26
Russell Gibson
so So 2.5 times, let's just call it that.

00:32:33.08
Adz
yeah it's um

00:32:36.76
Adz
I think the LeBron's a smart investment.

00:32:38.70
Russell Gibson
That's what I think too. I think when you say it in those sort of terms, it's like, yes, there is a big difference in price, but it's not that insane sort of crazy way. And also,

00:32:47.99
Adz
Yeah, but but it doesn't shock me that there is a LeBron low-numbered rookie card that sells for that amount of money.

00:32:56.16
Russell Gibson
definitely not.

00:32:57.15
Adz
SGA's is not a rookie card.

00:32:58.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's right. That's the difference, isn't it?

00:33:00.57
Adz
And yes, it's it's ah it's a it's a rare, it's ah it's ah it's one of those rare things like being the kaboon the green kaboom.

00:33:00.59
Russell Gibson
Between the two. And you point pointed that out. Yeah.

00:33:08.48
Adz
I get it. But this isn't, it's not his rookie year. So, yeah. not saying it's not valuable. I'm just saying that LeBron is way more valuable and I would say more than two and a half times more valuable.

00:33:22.00
Russell Gibson
That's right. Yeah, I'm definitely with you on this. right, let's go to a break and then we'll we'll thread in a few more comps to this because

00:33:28.34
Adz
Find some other cards worth half a million dollars to compare these two.

00:33:32.48
Russell Gibson
I'm not too sure I've done that, but there is some other cards we can talk about.

00:33:35.95
Adz
Good.

00:33:36.89
Russell Gibson
all Alrighty, let's talk about the Hobby Hangout. Thank you so much to the Hobby Hangout for again, agreeing to work with us. Go to tickets.austics.com.au to get your tickets for the Hobby Hangar XL.

00:33:51.38
Russell Gibson
The date is the 26th of April. The tickets are currently at $19.90. That is like the the pre-sale price. And basically, as the pre-release goes on, the tickets get more expensive.

00:34:05.02
Russell Gibson
I can confirm this is the fastest selling event so far in Hobby Hangouts history. So going on that trajectory, we're expecting this basically to be the biggest event that they've ever hosted. So very, very exciting time. 400 tables, sports cards, m NBA, NFL, MLB, AFL, NRL, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, One Piece, entertainment cards, live breaks, dedicated trading zones, free play areas, panels, speakers, and international guests. I can confirm we are going to be part of the paneling.

00:34:38.58
Russell Gibson
And I can say for me personally, i am excited.

00:34:38.62
Adz
Yes. Be great.

00:34:43.75
Russell Gibson
I'm honored. I'm flattered. i cannot wait to get there and give this a go again. So Andrew, thank you so much for your ongoing support. Guys, if you're in Melbourne, check out the Hobby Hangout.

00:34:56.48
Russell Gibson
You'll absolutely have a fantastic time there.

00:35:05.05
Russell Gibson
And we are back. Adam, how you doing, buddy?

00:35:09.75
Adz
I'm great. I'm great. We're going to comp some cards.

00:35:13.65
Russell Gibson
All right. Let's do it. If you're just tuning in, we've just been having an ongoing conversation about the SGA podcast. Green Kaboom 1 of 1 that just sold.

00:35:25.72
Russell Gibson
And I've just found another card, which I'd like to thread into this conversation. 2015 Panini Flawless, Nikoli Okik, Platinum 1 of 1 from his rookie year. PSA 9, which I'm not too sad about. These flawless, big, thick cards are pretty tough to grade.

00:35:41.34
Russell Gibson
In fact, PSA 9 is very good for that card. It's sold for $176,900. So let's call this half the price of the green kaboom. I know that's not the right maths, but just for fun, let's do it like that.

00:35:53.62
Adz
Yeah.

00:35:54.72
Russell Gibson
So you could have two of these Yoke Kicks or you could have one of the kabooms.

00:35:57.89
Adz
You can't. is It's a one of one.

00:36:00.21
Russell Gibson
Just humor me. Or you could have that in a hundred and $176,000. What would you take? that

00:36:07.00
Adz
Take the Jokic.

00:36:08.04
Russell Gibson
I'm taking the Yoke Kick 100%. know? Yeah.

00:36:09.94
Adz
um So, yeah, he's proven.

00:36:10.07
Russell Gibson
you know

00:36:11.46
Adz
He's a proven champion, a proven multiple MVP. Didn't steal anybody else's MVPs. In fact, SGA.

00:36:17.56
Russell Gibson
Well, they were stolen from him really, weren't they?

00:36:19.26
Adz
Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah. SGA was given one of Jokic's ones. Let's just say that. That's my view.

00:36:26.49
Russell Gibson
Look, I like this a lot and I like this for a couple of different reasons.

00:36:28.03
Adz
Oh.

00:36:29.79
Russell Gibson
The first thing is I think traditionally he's been very undervalued in the hobby.

00:36:34.53
Adz
Mm.

00:36:34.81
Russell Gibson
And so maybe we're transitioning into a phase where actually people starting to give this guy his dues, people starting to respect him, you know what he does. And I think the easiest way to have a look at his movement is to look at his silver PSA 10. It last traded for $5,399, which

00:36:53.51
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:54.36
Russell Gibson
huge there's absolutely huge It's very, very close to his highest all-time sale, which was $6,000. Obviously, that was during COVID time. In the last three months, he's up 36%. In the last six months, he's up 22%.

00:37:09.14
Russell Gibson
In the last 12 months, he's up 68%. So, yeah, look, obviously for me, this is very bittersweet because I had this on my hit list. I didn't pull the trigger and I kind of feel like the train has passed me by at this point in time. So, yeah.

00:37:25.21
Russell Gibson
But I think those numbers are very representative of the hobby catching up to this guy. I think he was undervalued for like quite a long period of time. This is my opinion.

00:37:33.21
Adz
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

00:37:35.45
Russell Gibson
And I think that's the data to back it up. And now we're starting to see some these more sort of fractional cards you know going for like you know big numbers. I actually think this is going to be undervalued long term.

00:37:47.92
Adz
Yeah. still would go the Jokic, but I would be mindful that this isn't a – that doesn't have a – it's not a logo, man. There's no auto –

00:38:00.25
Adz
It is rookie. Is it rookie?

00:38:02.80
Russell Gibson
Rookie, correct.

00:38:02.98
Adz
It is rookie, yeah.

00:38:03.91
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:38:04.89
Adz
um it It does have the rookie. i was going say, i was just having a look at the card up close. It does have the rookie emblem on it. So um that hold that holds something.

00:38:12.16
Russell Gibson
Yeah. It doesn't have an auto a patch, but it does have a diamond.

00:38:17.56
Adz
It does have the little diamond in it. um But yeah, it's it's not... These cards aren't, I suppose, as

00:38:28.85
Adz
What's the word? Hobby. They don't theyt don't have the same hobby presence as the kaboom.

00:38:38.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:38:38.58
Adz
Hobby presence is the right word.

00:38:38.70
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:38:40.18
Adz
um

00:38:40.54
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:38:41.11
Adz
The kaboom is in the spotlight.

00:38:41.30
Russell Gibson
So what do you mean by that? Like, so just elaborate on that. Cause I was going to say something completely different then. What do you mean by that?

00:38:46.04
Adz
Okay, so my my thing is about hobby presence. Everyone, if we're at a point where we're saying that kaboom is like the case hit of the future which is the future PMG, right?

00:38:58.49
Adz
it's the It's the holy grail of auto-less insert of this generation, right?

00:38:58.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:39:03.67
Russell Gibson
Sure.

00:39:05.87
Adz
With the previous generation being the ah precious metal gem.

00:39:11.70
Adz
So this is a really cool card, but it doesn't have that press associated with it.

00:39:19.16
Adz
Like it it's not as, I don't see cards like this shared regularly and people going, oh my God, this, oh my God, that. It's a very classy piece, but it's not media headline piece.

00:39:35.48
Adz
Whereas Kabooms are all over the hobby.

00:39:35.86
Russell Gibson
Can I

00:39:39.13
Russell Gibson
So can I give my two cents on that?

00:39:40.57
Adz
Go for it, go for it.

00:39:41.62
Russell Gibson
So I think the problem with flawless and eminence is the biggest victim of all this. It's not an accessible product for the majority of people. And so that's why you get that. And I think a lot of the in a lot of ways what Panini did, which was damn brilliant when you think about it, they put price points of product in in a spectrum for people to access.

00:40:04.34
Russell Gibson
Prism was by far the most popular. And then, i mean, they put Kabooms into all different products, but they were relatively accessible in comparison to Flawless and Eminence. And so...

00:40:16.90
Adz
I've...

00:40:16.92
Russell Gibson
Flawless, I think, in some ways is a victim of their own success because those cards are so expensive and the boxes so expensive, it's hard for people to get their hands on them.

00:40:25.90
Adz
100% and that's the thing.

00:40:26.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:27.22
Adz
So, and I guess to to further demonstrate that point, the narrative that comes with a card like this is, of course, that's $176,000 card.

00:40:40.06
Adz
The box cost $25,000. It didn't. It was a different price point back there. But like in 2015, box just buying one pack of, was it Eminence or Flawless?

00:40:54.10
Adz
Flawless.

00:40:54.14
Russell Gibson
So Eminence is trading at the moment at around 25,000 USD.

00:40:56.38
Adz
Yeah.

00:40:59.07
Russell Gibson
at the moment

00:40:59.73
Adz
But for the first five years of flaw of flawless, you could pick those up for a couple of grand a box. Right? Those ones. Right? But the starting point for these things are 10 to 20 grand, right?

00:41:10.10
Russell Gibson
it's like twenty thousand aussie at the moment now for flawless.

00:41:14.17
Adz
So... and And in order to hit this particular card, how many of these boxes would you have to buy? So it makes sense that that card is worth $176,000. And I would even put that it is unders at that price.

00:41:27.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah, 100%. When you say it in those terms, 100%, it's unders, yeah.

00:41:28.95
Adz
kiss but the The SGA comes out of a product that's $500 a Currently like $500 a box.

00:41:34.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:41:36.04
Adz
Like it's obtainable.

00:41:38.65
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:41:39.03
Adz
like it's it's obtainable

00:41:42.01
Russell Gibson
Oh, definitely.

00:41:42.65
Adz
So the Kaboom gets more media your attention because, the yeah as you said, it's ah it's they price themselves out of the market and the everyday collector doesn't get access to this stuff.

00:41:54.74
Russell Gibson
No.

00:41:55.93
Adz
So that's why the Kaboom draws more more presence because it's got the it's the people's card. It's the one that people could pull out of ah a box, get a gift for, for i don't know, a nice wife might buy a box for an anniversary or something.

00:42:13.40
Adz
All right, it's probably pushing it. But you get ah a birthday gift and you get a box of, well, prism, yeah, whatever.

00:42:18.58
Russell Gibson
Well, Prism, Donruss.

00:42:21.10
Adz
but name Name the product.

00:42:21.25
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:42:22.54
Adz
And you pull a kaboom.

00:42:24.84
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:42:25.78
Adz
Right. and And you go, Oh my God, it's a one of one.

00:42:26.62
Russell Gibson
Still a pretty sick present, by the way.

00:42:28.50
Adz
Yeah. But like for a $500 box or a thousand dollar box, whatever, you're getting a $400,000 card versus, Hey, do you mind if I spend 25 to 30 grand on a box on the hope that I pull this maybe $200,000 card?

00:42:45.01
Adz
It's just less newsworthy in in my view.

00:42:48.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:49.05
Adz
And i think it is the Kaboom draws more of that attention and has more presence as a result. Interesting. Anyway.

00:42:56.41
Russell Gibson
The last card in this series is not a high value card at all, but it is an SGA card. Just thought we'd toss this in and chew on the fat on this one a little bit. Add SGA 2018 Panini Prism.

00:43:08.73
Russell Gibson
Rookie card, Choice Prism Tiger Stripe. I personally love this design. I think it's awesome. It's sold for $15,000. Population on this is market cap is 376,000.

00:43:21.04
Russell Gibson
If you're looking at the graphic there, it's just a straight up to the moon there. In 2024, it was trading for about 4,000 bucks.

00:43:26.43
Adz
Yeah. New

00:43:30.20
Russell Gibson
And so, look, I like this a lot. My only slight

00:43:37.40
Russell Gibson
criticism of this card is just the color or the lack of color match i think you could look for maybe a different type of parallel that would sort of match this card but i would also say too you know if you're picking these up for four thousand dollars a couple of years ago congratulations to you you've just forexed your your collection value so yeah good on you thoughts on this ad

00:43:38.76
Adz
money.

00:43:54.07
Adz
money Yeah.

00:44:00.12
Adz
Yeah, look, that's, and that's a rookie card, funnily enough. That's.

00:44:04.41
Russell Gibson
it is So all of his rookie cars didn't have the emblem on it. was a print or Panini error on that. So that's a it's a funny little thing with SGA.

00:44:10.82
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:14.16
Adz
Yeah.

00:44:15.81
Russell Gibson
All righty, this is going to be a really short one, and I don't even have a link for it to add. Sorry about this, but Tops have announced, similar to other announcements we've had recently with like little LeBron James 23 patch, there's going to be all-star patches on the uniforms.

00:44:31.70
Adz
Oh, that's, yeah. Luka luca had one.

00:44:35.80
Russell Gibson
which will be given to tops to put into product. And I believe what you're talking about now is there's also going to be one, like an all-star patch on the regular season jerseys too.

00:44:46.31
Russell Gibson
But I haven't,

00:44:47.32
Adz
I think, was it just Luka that got one though? Because he got the most votes.

00:44:52.55
Russell Gibson
I'm not sure of all the details. 100% what I do know, they'll have a patch in the actual All-Star game. And I think there'll also be something in the regular season too.

00:44:58.53
Adz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:01.31
Russell Gibson
you know I don't know what that is. So we'll keep you updated on that one. We'll give you an update on that one next week.

00:45:05.34
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:05.91
Russell Gibson
But again, more ah innovations of Topps doing stuff that's going to you know be put into product.

00:45:06.10
Adz
Yeah.

00:45:12.53
Russell Gibson
It's just you know going to be current. It's going to give people chase cards.

00:45:15.16
Adz
It wasn't just Luka trying to steal LeBron's spotlight and going, I want a patch too. I got the most all-star votes. Can have a patch? it Like LeBron's got his year 23 ones and Luka's like, I want one too.

00:45:28.47
Russell Gibson
I mean, finding reasons to give particular athletes patches, I actually don't mind that.

00:45:35.48
Adz
I think if it's an occasion that needs to be celebrated, I think putting a patch so you can make it into memorabilia is sensible.

00:45:46.17
Adz
Like it's manufacturing the the memorabilia, so to speak, but it's...

00:45:46.42
Russell Gibson
But

00:45:50.14
Russell Gibson
I'll...

00:45:50.44
Adz
it might if it it's right But you're not going argue the toss on it, right?

00:45:50.68
Russell Gibson
100%. But if it's game one and it like goes to a particular player... Okay, so for example, right?

00:45:57.89
Adz
You get a Luka Doncic one with the jert that came off the jersey that he wore that night. You go, I've seen that.

00:46:03.40
Russell Gibson
Yeah. So for example, just say they made up a reason for Wemby to get a patch on his jersey. So they might say he's the current lead leaguer in blocks, like some weird reason like that, like whatever.

00:46:16.63
Russell Gibson
No one's going to care because it's cool. And then you get some, you know, specific game ward memorabilia that you can put onto a Wemby autograph. Like that's awesome.

00:46:25.94
Adz
Yeah, exactly.

00:46:26.84
Russell Gibson
Like you have, I'm going to give tops their flowers when they do good stuff. And when they do crap stuff, going to like make a joke about it.

00:46:33.05
Adz
I do.

00:46:33.12
Russell Gibson
You know what Like it's.

00:46:33.85
Adz
I think it's a fine line for them.

00:46:34.08
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:46:36.29
Adz
I think they're doing well at the moment, and I think they've picked their occasions very well.

00:46:40.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:46:41.78
Adz
I worry that if they – I don't think they'll cross it. I think they'll actually do a very smart – they seem to have rolled it out very well. Like, I wouldn't want to say whoever – who whoever I don't know even who's in the competitions because i normally don't care on All-Star weekend, but say Steph Curry is is in the three-point contest, right?

00:47:05.27
Adz
I don't want to see all the three-point participants on All-Star weekend with a patch. But maybe I want to see Steph Curry if he wins the All-Star three-point contest with a three-point contest one.

00:47:16.70
Adz
But the question is, does he wear it for the rest of the season? Does he...

00:47:22.10
Russell Gibson
that's one they could do in that case. Then all the entrance into the dunk competition and the three point contest, they get a patch for their Jersey for the regular season.

00:47:29.47
Adz
But

00:47:31.18
Russell Gibson
And then that goes into the memorabilia. Yes.

00:47:32.98
Adz
but is that too much?

00:47:35.10
Russell Gibson
ah Or maybe you it's just a patch that goes on the jersey for the day.

00:47:39.38
Adz
you imagine Mac McClung running around in the G League with his all-star patch on?

00:47:39.67
Russell Gibson
And then

00:47:44.38
Adz
Anyway.

00:47:45.62
Russell Gibson
and then that would make it like SSP then, like you know truly super short print.

00:47:48.15
Adz
an Yeah, that's fair.

00:47:51.67
Russell Gibson
One or two of them. That would be super sick.

00:47:54.14
Adz
Oh, okay. So participant ah in, so they wear the uniform at the, at the three point shootout and they've got the patch on there and that's one of one.

00:47:55.07
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:47:59.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but it's got a special patch on it and that patch goes into memorabilia. Yeah.

00:48:04.12
Adz
Okay. One of one contested.

00:48:05.21
Russell Gibson
That would be cool.

00:48:05.56
Adz
Sure.

00:48:06.52
Russell Gibson
That would be cool.

00:48:08.33
Adz
You'd be let down if the person that lost in the first round of the three point contest was the one that you pulled out of a pack. But anyway.

00:48:16.86
Russell Gibson
i To be honest with you, I'd be pretty cool with that.

00:48:18.90
Adz
It'd be cool. and but yeah But I just don't think they should they should invent too many reasons. I think they use the current awards and the current landscape. I think they're doing...

00:48:28.24
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but my, okay, so my argument on that though, is that is like infinitely times better than the crap that Panini gave us.

00:48:29.43
Adz
Keep up the good work would be the... Yeah.

00:48:35.96
Russell Gibson
So it was like not even game worn, not event warm, non-game associated. Do you know what saying?

00:48:41.02
Adz
we not sure

00:48:41.48
Russell Gibson
Like

00:48:42.06
Adz
We're not sure what this jersey was used for. In fact, this bit of material may not have...

00:48:45.12
Russell Gibson
it wasn't a jersey. It wasn't even a jersey. It was just them just like cutting out pieces of material and sticking it into cards.

00:48:50.62
Adz
this material this material is verified to have come from the same factory where the material was sold out.

00:48:50.74
Russell Gibson
Like, come on.

00:48:56.02
Russell Gibson
In China, where the other... I mean, come on. Like, what are we talking about here?

00:48:59.83
Adz
Fair, fair, fair, fair.

00:49:00.76
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:49:00.91
Adz
Oh, God.

00:49:03.00
Russell Gibson
US Sports Cards Australia, thank you so much for your ongoing love and support of our show. We cannot thank you enough. Go to ussportscardsaustralia.com.au. There you will find sealed product, brakes, car protection, and of course, Ross's beloved water pistols.

00:49:16.61
Russell Gibson
Now, Adam, I believe you want to talk about this for two seconds.

00:49:19.93
Adz
First of all, thank you, Ross, for the for the lovely Christmas present.

00:49:21.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:49:24.01
Adz
um

00:49:24.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:49:25.27
Adz
i got some I got some of those magical water pistols. And might I add, I wasn't aware that they were battery operated, but I did find that out. And I had to screw off the little panel.

00:49:36.28
Adz
And I got one of these little screwdrivers. So anyone playing at home can see the little screwdriver in my hand.

00:49:41.27
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:49:41.40
Adz
Tiny little one. I had a moment where I needed one of these tiny screwdrivers. It was to to help with one of my Pokemon accessories anyway. um the other The other day it was an emergency. I'm like, I need a tiny screwdriver. Where am I going to get up?

00:49:58.62
Adz
The water guns. And was Ross, you've, you've saved the day.

00:50:04.20
Russell Gibson
You're like the Christmas ghost, really, Ross.

00:50:04.38
Adz
bat Battery has been changed. Thanks to, It it is it is it was um so yeah, thank you for the the not just the water pistols, but the handy handy screwdriver.

00:50:09.37
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:50:17.35
Russell Gibson
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00:50:33.50
Russell Gibson
That is a promo for our listeners. Thank you again, Ross, for your ongoing support. Adam, we are back. This is the final quarter.

00:50:43.22
Adz
The last quarter, it's crunch time.

00:50:45.96
Russell Gibson
We're not going to get through it all today. There's no way we're going to get through it, but I would actually like to get through

00:50:49.27
Adz
I don't think there's been a week where we have got through it all.

00:50:53.46
Russell Gibson
All right. Cooper one of one. Let's just try and do this as quick hitters and we'll see what we can do here.

00:50:56.84
Adz
All right.

00:50:57.77
Russell Gibson
This is from the collectible guru. This actually was pulled a while ago, but we haven't got down the run sheet 14th of January. This got pulled tops. Chrome super a factor. One of one rookie has been pulled at we, the hobby.

00:51:10.40
Russell Gibson
He's 45th anniversary. Chrome super factor has just set, just set his sales record of $180,000 last month. What do you think this card will sell for Adam?

00:51:21.91
Adz
I'm sure we announced that this was pulled, but I don't think. i look up

00:51:25.14
Russell Gibson
It's possible that I've had my old man brain on.

00:51:27.76
Adz
That's true.

00:51:27.96
Russell Gibson
But but there was there was two pulled.

00:51:28.20
Adz
about two I think 200K.

00:51:29.72
Russell Gibson
So there was the original and then there was the 45th anniversary one.

00:51:33.50
Adz
So there's two one-of-ones.

00:51:33.58
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:51:36.00
Adz
Oh, so you should have used these instead of the Jokic.

00:51:39.06
Russell Gibson
Yeah, could have, eh?

00:51:39.69
Adz
You had two of these. Or the SGA. And I'd probably take these. But... um

00:51:45.14
Russell Gibson
So of all the cards we've spoken about today, i would rather all of them before this one, honestly. with that Except for the the Tiger print.

00:51:52.11
Adz
I want both of them. I want both of the one-on-one, one-of-ones.

00:51:55.86
Russell Gibson
Yeah, okay.

00:51:56.50
Adz
Just so I can say I have two one-of-ones and really confuse people.

00:51:58.49
Russell Gibson
that's that is That is actually a banging call. So you' you're going to take the Jokic and the Koopa.

00:52:04.31
Adz
No, no, I take both the Coopers.

00:52:06.58
Russell Gibson
oh okay.

00:52:09.24
Adz
Just so I can say I've got two one-of-ones.

00:52:09.37
Russell Gibson
Okay. In that case, I'll take the Koopa and I'll take the Jokic and then we'll leave the SGA green.

00:52:14.23
Adz
Yeah.

00:52:15.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's nice.

00:52:16.02
Adz
but

00:52:18.60
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, our next card here, it again, is from Twitter, at Cards Boulevard, a long-term hold, 2012 National Treasures, Kobe Bryant, Logam, and Patch, one of two, PSA 10.

00:52:31.05
Russell Gibson
In April 2016, this sold $7,999, and it's just recently sold for $456,000, which makes a 5,601% increase.

00:52:42.84
Russell Gibson
six hundred and one per cent increase

00:52:47.67
Russell Gibson
I think at that margin you have to sell it, don't you?

00:52:47.74
Adz
um

00:52:49.79
Russell Gibson
You can't hold onto that any longer.

00:52:52.31
Adz
You could.

00:52:57.02
Adz
You could. It depends. Do you need the money or do you do you just want to hold it? What did what it was the purpose of getting it?

00:53:03.32
Russell Gibson
mean, that's a bucket load of cash, man.

00:53:05.24
Adz
It is. can literally buy a house with that. Anyway.

00:53:09.48
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:11.40
Adz
Well, maybe not a house, but clothes.

00:53:13.27
Russell Gibson
Jonathan Kuminga got burnt this week after he requested a trade. The general manager, Mike Dunleavy Jr. replied with, you can make a demand, but there has to be a demand for your services in reply. So I think that is ah exceptional.

00:53:29.98
Adz
I love it. I love it. When you make a demand, there needs to be demand. but

00:53:35.10
Russell Gibson
I love it on so many different levels. So kudos to you, Mike Dunleavy.

00:53:39.54
Adz
Take that, Kamingo.

00:53:39.83
Russell Gibson
think that's a fantastic way to put him back in his place. Unfortunately, he's now injured with a high ankle sprain and further, unfortunately, Jimmy Buckets has had a season ending injury.

00:53:52.98
Russell Gibson
In terms of hobby potential, this doesn't really move the needle very much, if at all, for Jimmy Buckets. What does matter though is Steph Curry.

00:53:59.21
Adz
Yeah, but is my NBA – no, my fantasy team is cooked.

00:54:06.33
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:54:07.22
Adz
my My NBA fantasy team is cooked. Thanks, Jimmy.

00:54:09.46
Russell Gibson
It will definitely hurt some fantasy teams. Absolutely.

00:54:11.61
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:12.04
Russell Gibson
Speaking

00:54:12.25
Adz
Well, he was my starting small forward anyway.

00:54:15.46
Russell Gibson
of Steph Curry.

00:54:19.19
Adz
law

00:54:19.24
Russell Gibson
2023 Prism Mania Steph Curry PSA 9 sold for $2,100 on January the 16th by best offer on eBay.

00:54:29.62
Russell Gibson
I am giving this the two thumbs up A++ plus plus sale. The reason I say this because this is a true SSP. The population on this is unknown, but

00:54:38.78
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:42.52
Russell Gibson
it's It's overall very, very low.

00:54:44.25
Adz
and i

00:54:45.20
Russell Gibson
They're tough to grade. There's not many 10s. Obviously, there's nine nines.

00:54:47.51
Adz
i

00:54:49.46
Russell Gibson
I think at that price point, you just put that away for 20 years and you bring it back out. I don't think it's going to do Kobe flawless numbers that we just saw like in terms of 5,000% up, but that will 10x no dramas at all.

00:55:03.05
Russell Gibson
i I really think that is just whoever did that, I'm proud of you. Congrats to you.

00:55:09.21
Adz
that was That's impressive, yeah.

00:55:12.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah. 2016 Panini Studio, Kobe Bryant from downtown PSA 10 sold for $188 in 2020 and sold for $16K.

00:55:25.02
Adz
do Can I just say this is a sore point for me?

00:55:28.57
Russell Gibson
I mean, I feel bad about the Nicola Jokic rookie card, but when I see stuff like this, I'm like, um I just wish i was smarter.

00:55:41.30
Adz
I remember selling one for $150 in like 2018. Yeah.

00:55:45.41
Russell Gibson
Okay.

00:55:47.00
Adz
To someone that was completing their set, but yeah.

00:55:49.43
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:55:50.33
Adz
Yeah. It was like, they came after me because I knew at the Kobe's and i'm like, uh, fine.

00:55:58.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's that's tough, man.

00:55:58.68
Adz
Yep. Yeah.

00:56:00.12
Russell Gibson
I'm sorry to hear that.

00:56:00.34
Adz
Yep. Yep. It wasn't, it wasn't graded. Mine was just raw, but

00:56:06.15
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:56:06.78
Adz
anyway,

00:56:08.52
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. Now this next one, we haven't spoken about jambalas for a while, so I'm actually glad that another one popped up. If you want to use the phrase...

00:56:19.00
Russell Gibson
little little brother or little sister, little cousin of a PMG. It's the Jambalaya 1997 Skybox X 2001 Kevin Garnett Jambalaya PSA 9 sold for $3,000. And I think if we're going to use comps in out within our show, just comp it straight back to the Steph Curry. That was a PSA 9. This is a PSA 9.

00:56:40.38
Russell Gibson
I, you know, look, I love this card.

00:56:40.50
Adz
Yeah, yeah, for sure. ah

00:56:43.53
Russell Gibson
I think this is the same thing. It's sort of a lower end um lower graded. It's a lower player. It's Kevin Garnett. It's not Steph Curry. I get all of that. But again, the actual card, the collectible part of it, this is very, very collectible.

00:56:59.77
Russell Gibson
And I think... Again, we're sort of in this like weird era where PSA 9s are considered to be the same price as raw, but there's also massive exceptions to that rule.

00:57:09.78
Russell Gibson
And here's one with the KG and there's another one with the Steph Curry. you know like There's nothing wrong with buying PSA 9s at the right price and just putting them away because it's ah you know it's a good purchase.

00:57:15.58
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:57:20.96
Russell Gibson
So again, congratulations to this KG buyer. I'm not going to give it the two thumbs up that I gave to the Steph Curry, but... It's very, very close to it. I can only do two thumbs up once in a show, I think.

00:57:33.85
Adz
That's fair.

00:57:34.58
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:57:35.40
Adz
That's fair.

00:57:36.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:57:36.87
Adz
I like that.

00:57:37.94
Russell Gibson
Hey, man, am I doing and well? We're getting through this.

00:57:40.22
Adz
We are.

00:57:40.98
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Anthony Davis, and this is kind of one of those ones where I hope no one in our listener base has been affected by this. Anthony Davis, National Treasures.

00:57:51.55
Russell Gibson
It's a little bit hard to read that. I think that says 1213. It's his rookie patch autograph, numbered to five from National Treasures.

00:57:58.10
Adz
Mm-mm. Yeah, 1213 rookie patch auto.

00:58:00.70
Russell Gibson
Thank you. My eyes aren't that great. It sold 2021 for one hundred and eighty one k It last traded

00:58:05.10
Adz
Wow.

00:58:08.50
Russell Gibson
for seven thousand one hundred and thirty six Yeah, I think COVID messed up a lot of people. It really did.

00:58:18.70
Russell Gibson
And look, I think in some ways using that particular stat is a little bit misleading because there would have been a whole bunch of sales before that.

00:58:22.23
Adz
Mm-mm.

00:58:25.30
Russell Gibson
After that, you know you could have picked any anything along in between.

00:58:27.26
Adz
In between. Yeah.

00:58:29.26
Russell Gibson
But for the actual impact, I i get it. why Sorry, credit to the real guy, 27 on this one.

00:58:36.02
Adz
Yeah. A hundred percent.

00:58:36.60
Russell Gibson
He does some good content. But this one,

00:58:37.67
Adz
I looked at the font in that one looks like a JB hi-fi commercial anyway.

00:58:41.30
Russell Gibson
it does, doesn't it, man? Maybe they stole the same template.

00:58:45.77
Adz
Probably.

00:58:46.52
Russell Gibson
yeah All right. I've got a question for you on this one. Do you think it's 7,000 bucks? That's actually a good buy. Okay.

00:58:54.36
Adz
No.

00:58:56.92
Russell Gibson
I think that.

00:58:56.94
Adz
I'll buy a Yoki. I'll buy a Yoki Trooky.

00:58:59.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:59:00.02
Adz
Do you know, like maybe if you're an AD collector, I don't think AD is hobby relevant personally. um He's never really been at the forefront hobby wise.

00:59:11.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:59:12.79
Adz
and and i and And I have to think about it, whether or not you would, personal preference is just that personal preference. Like I've got my Julius Randall collection and my Scotty Pippins.

00:59:27.83
Adz
But they're not they're not the cards that that i that I'm not like, oh, $8,000 for a Julius Randle, one of one, blah, blah, blah. Would that be good? And like, pretty insane, actually. Like, I'm good at it because I like the player.

00:59:43.38
Adz
Like, there are different levels of...

00:59:45.60
Russell Gibson
There's different reasons for buying cards.

00:59:47.06
Adz
Yeah, yeah. And and I just think as as the the broader the market, it goes back to supply and demand. There's less people like me who like Julius Randle than there are people that like...

00:59:57.94
Adz
Jordan, really simple one, right? But like any Anthony, Anthony Davis is fan base is not large.

01:00:01.09
Russell Gibson
Definitely.

01:00:09.03
Russell Gibson
There's not the same liquidity in Anthony Davis as Jordan. I could not agree with you more on that one.

01:00:13.98
Adz
But and and I just like if you're an Anthony Davis collector $7,000 for that card might be really good.

01:00:20.34
Russell Gibson
Amazing. My only two points I would put in sort of counter that is that I'm going to put him into the category of his value is less than what his talent is.

01:00:22.64
Adz
Hmm.

01:00:29.68
Russell Gibson
I think this guy is super talented. He's actually got a pretty good resume. He's got the Team USA resume, the number one overall pick.

01:00:33.94
Adz
Yep.

01:00:36.80
Russell Gibson
He's got a championship. I wouldn't rule him out getting a second championship at some point in his career. like He's that type of talented guy where if the injury luck rolls his way, he's on the right roster.

01:00:44.73
Adz
Sure. Yeah.

01:00:48.22
Russell Gibson
like He's that good at basketball that he can actually win a championship for your team.

01:00:49.91
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

01:00:53.69
Russell Gibson
And the other thing too is that Obviously, this is a very long-term play, what I'm now going to talk about. I think if he bought this for $7,000, at one point in the future, he's going to have his moment in the sun where everyone starts buying him for some weird reason.

01:01:06.19
Russell Gibson
It's like Shaq. He's just spiked hard recently.

01:01:09.27
Adz
I think Anthony Davis has had his window. I think honestly that 180K time was his time. But I think we're in the decline of the career because Pelican's a d was where you'd see the the gain.

01:01:18.52
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:01:21.92
Adz
And then he went to the Lakers and now he's just being shopped around. like They're getting a sense on the dollar in Dallas for him.

01:01:27.19
Russell Gibson
When I say in the future, I mean like 10 or 20 years away. So just sorry, I should have been more specific.

01:01:31.52
Adz
Oh, you mean his? Oh, i don't think I don't think as far as big men goes.

01:01:33.40
Russell Gibson
At one point, they're going to they're going to look back at this guy and go, actually, look, he's a pretty good veteran. He's probably a bit under, know what I mean? and Like Duncan's the same. Like he goes up and down. So yeah.

01:01:42.97
Adz
I don't know. You know one place I guarantee he won't be?

01:01:43.47
Russell Gibson
you know

01:01:46.51
Russell Gibson
Where's that, man?

01:01:47.10
Adz
Mount Rushmore.

01:01:48.41
Russell Gibson
yeah

01:01:50.28
Adz
Brutal.

01:01:53.85
Russell Gibson
I do not have a Jordan to finish with today, but I do have a LeBron James. We have to edit this out.

01:02:01.93
Adz
No, you don't. No, you don't. I can get, can I have a guess at what that is going to be? the final sale on that one is I'm going to guess $1.1 million dollars actually, actually plus 10 grand onto that.

01:02:11.67
Russell Gibson
You're like some type of a savant.

01:02:17.30
Adz
Um, yeah, I saw that I was having a read. i actually should have got a Kobe 81.1 that I actually, where's my story on Instagram.

01:02:20.93
Russell Gibson
All righty.

01:02:24.70
Russell Gibson
do you want to pause and we'll finish off with a Kobe? All right, we'll pause.

01:02:26.97
Adz
Yeah. ah

01:02:30.00
Russell Gibson
All righty. So our last card for this week is going to be paying tribute to the one and only Kobe Bean Bryant.

01:02:37.46
Adz
Yes, only a couple of days ago it was the 20th. That's right, the 20th anniversary of the 81-point game.

01:02:45.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Stuff like this, man, makes me feel old.

01:02:48.77
Adz
it's It was, yeah, it it's insane. um

01:02:54.46
Adz
i still think a player will break break that 81 points, but that was, yeah, that was ah a hell of a feat.

01:03:02.06
Russell Gibson
Who's going to get 81, man?

01:03:03.94
Adz
Luca? Luca?

01:03:04.95
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:03:06.10
Adz
Luca's got clothes. Any of them 70 or 72? Something like that. But Luca, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, there's a few that could go off like that.

01:03:13.61
Russell Gibson
Edwards, Wemby. There's a few guys, isn't there? Catch fire. Yep.

01:03:17.07
Adz
We just absolutely, absolutely catch fire. So, yeah, Kobe to finish. 2006, 2007, exquisite collection,

01:03:27.38
Adz
limited logos Kobe Bryant, Hatch Auto, numbered to 50.

01:03:32.53
Russell Gibson
Let's go.

01:03:34.66
Adz
Last sold in 2022 for $27,000. My final question here is, what would this sell for today? And i'll answer I'll give you my answer. I just add a zero.

01:03:55.16
Russell Gibson
So we had that Kobe sale already in the show today, didn't we?

01:04:00.15
Adz
The downtown.

01:04:01.66
Russell Gibson
So we had the Kobe patch number to two and that sold for 456.

01:04:08.38
Russell Gibson
So maybe that sells for like eight.

01:04:10.79
Adz
That's just a logo man. There's no auto on that.

01:04:12.66
Russell Gibson
Yes. So maybe your one sells for like 800. Yeah.

01:04:16.38
Adz
800, but it's numbered to 50. It's not a one of one. i would say I would say this is probably 200K card.

01:04:22.97
Russell Gibson
okay

01:04:24.18
Adz
Maybe less. Maybe it's just... that's a be Yes, it is a 2006-07 card, so I'm trying to get the 20, trying to get the the relativity to that 20 years.

01:04:28.76
Russell Gibson
ah yeah I see you're saying. Yeah.

01:04:34.16
Adz
there is actually There is actually one with his finger in the air that celebrates the 81 points that someone is has in their collection.

01:04:34.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I'm way off. I know.

01:04:42.58
Adz
I don't think they recently sold it, but what a card.

01:04:44.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:46.26
Adz
And what a game by Kobe Bryant.

01:04:49.67
Russell Gibson
Yeah, banging.

01:04:50.81
Adz
Yeah.

01:04:52.18
Russell Gibson
Thank you so much, Adam. Thank you so much all our listeners at home. Thank you, everyone who supports us on Instagram, socials, da-da-da-da-da. We love it. Thank you so much.

01:05:02.06
Adz
We do. Thank you for another great show. Thank you to all the listeners on Central Coast Radio. thank

01:05:07.35
Russell Gibson
Oh, yeah.

01:05:08.12
Adz
Thank you to the to those that are liking, subscribing, and um and leaving comments on the YouTube. We really appreciate it. Russell, thank you for all the work you do with our socials, with with the Instagram, the green screening now.

01:05:22.94
Russell Gibson
Oh, yeah, i know.

01:05:23.67
Adz
you Your 2026 resolution is is learning to to be a content producer.

01:05:30.77
Russell Gibson
Technically, it was my 2025 thing, but I just got around to it in 2026.

01:05:31.10
Adz
Love it.

01:05:34.21
Adz
Applying it.

01:05:35.01
Russell Gibson
That's very Russell, you know. That's it.

01:05:36.36
Adz
Applying your craft. Thanks everybody. And until next week, and enjoy the week.

01:05:45.99
Adz
Bang.