Episode 257: Future Rushmore Prospects, SGA vs Luka vs Wemby, Topps Mega Update & One-of-One Madness

We're back for Episode 257 of You Can't Comp This! 

Russell and Adz dive deep into future NBA card Rushmore candidates — debating SGA (MVP + ring already), Luka, Wemby (injury concerns + massive pop), Anthony Edwards, Tatum's rebound, Cade, Paolo, Cooper Flagg and more undervalued upside plays. 

Plus: 

• Topps Mega Update — blue X-Fractor exchange drama 
• Paul George 25-game suspension fallout 
• Fanatics Live leaked allocation numbers (Blowout, DA Card World & big breakers) 
• Stunning Kobe one-of-ones surface (binder pull + $30k Intimidation Nation) 
• $222k LeBron Black Prism 1/1, Embiid/SGA/Booker monster 1/1 sales 
• Wemby & Cooper Flagg Sapphire / Superfractor 1/1 pulls 
• Tyson Beck's Jokic Game-Worn drop 
• Pac-Man live break meltdown

Listen now!

Transcript

00:00:34.78
Adz
Welcome everybody to episode 257 of the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card Podcast. We host Adam, Amy and Russell Gibson.

00:00:46.33
Russell Gibson
Hey, Hey,

00:00:47.85
Adz
We're back. It's Sunday night.

00:00:51.54
Adz
Stuff's happening.

00:00:53.43
Russell Gibson
not quite like MJ, but we're back.

00:00:56.41
Adz
Not quite, not quite. It could be um could be traded for the to the 11th team in your career.

00:01:04.28
Russell Gibson
I look, if I was a veteran in the NBA, I'd be pretty happy with that lifestyle to be honest.

00:01:08.50
Adz
It's either you're really popular or really unpopular if you've been traded that many times, I feel. Anyway.

00:01:14.33
Russell Gibson
but Apparently he's not been traded the most. apparently Trevor Ariza is the player most traded.

00:01:20.31
Adz
Interesting. Interesting. is Look, it's Trader's got time to get traded more.

00:01:23.60
Russell Gibson
Ariza was pretty handy.

00:01:29.37
Russell Gibson
Now that we're talking about this, we probably should announce the trade, right?

00:01:32.57
Adz
yeah well There's a trade. We can talk about that on the show. You can...

00:01:35.22
Russell Gibson
ah Okay.

00:01:36.75
Adz
Just spoiler. There's a trade that's happened.

00:01:40.60
Russell Gibson
All righty, this week's show, we are going to do a future stars slash future Rushmore, which is basically just us prospecting cards, and we haven't done that for a minute.

00:01:53.25
Russell Gibson
So that'll be good to actually get back in and do that.

00:01:54.39
Adz
yeah

00:01:56.12
Russell Gibson
our Segment two, we're going to talk about the Topps Mega Update. We're going to talk about Paul George getting banned for 25 games. We're going to talk about some leaked information from Fanatics Live.

00:02:08.15
Russell Gibson
Then for the rest of the show, we've got some Kobe Bryant. We're going to talk about the Konkanupal-Cooper flag matchup game, which was absolutely amazing. We saw Pac-Man crash out on his live feed this week, which are quite that quite invigorated my internal Shadenfreude. That was quite nice. Wemby one of one.

00:02:27.38
Russell Gibson
We've got an Embiid one of one, an SGA, a Booker one of one. Tyson Beck has dropped his Yo-Kick this week. So we've got, as usual, lots and lots and lots to talk about.

00:02:35.29
Adz
There's plenty of garden. Yeah.

00:02:39.61
Russell Gibson
Alrighty. So just to lay out this week's initial segment, this is inspired by Andy Cartwright,.14 on Instagram. And his question was, how about players you think are undervalued right now with potential upside?

00:02:54.76
Russell Gibson
I'm currently looking at Keontae George and Jalen Johnson. Is there any more that you can think of? And so... I'm not going to really answer that question in that vein, but this is what has inspired this section. Because what what I'm sort of going through at the moment is who's got potential to be on the Rushmore next that's currently in the league?

00:03:15.34
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:15.58
Russell Gibson
And their prices aren't at the current Rushmore. So just for full disclosure before we move forward anymore, my actual Rushmore is Jordan, Kobe, LeBron and Steph.

00:03:28.70
Russell Gibson
And so if the prices are less than that, I'm basically calling them like my my next level or my next tier down.

00:03:28.74
Adz
Yeah.

00:03:37.40
Russell Gibson
Matt Rushmore slash future star. So that's how I thought we could talk about this segment.

00:03:40.32
Adz
Nice.

00:03:43.22
Russell Gibson
And you pointed out to me off the air that my my tears aren't in groups of four.

00:03:43.82
Adz
Oh, okay.

00:03:50.49
Russell Gibson
That's triggered your OCD. and And that's absolutely true.

00:03:51.90
Adz
ah

00:03:53.78
Russell Gibson
So I'm sorry to anyone else at home who's also OCD that I trigger. So I think the best place to start on this is with a Brian Windhorst quote And he was talking about teenagers that could play.

00:04:06.51
Russell Gibson
And he was citing Cooper Flagg, Luka Doncic, LeBron, and Wemby.

00:04:09.16
Adz
Of course. Yep.

00:04:12.25
Russell Gibson
So straight away from that list, we have to take out LeBron because he's already on my actual Rushmore. And that leaves for my top shelf from that list, Wemby,

00:04:26.01
Russell Gibson
and Luka Doncic. Cooper Flagg, we're going to leave for a little bit later on. And then the next guy that I'm going to add to my top shelf, and he's actually number one on my list, is SGA.

00:04:38.26
Russell Gibson
And the reason I've got him at number one is because of his age.

00:04:42.87
Adz
yeah

00:04:43.66
Russell Gibson
He's already got an MVP, and he's already got championship. And so...

00:04:49.62
Adz
He's up there. he's ah He's on the right trajectory.

00:04:51.99
Russell Gibson
Yeah, and I think the other thing that really... tantalizes me like quite a lot is that he's still on a really really young team and i find that really challenging and also all the other draft equity that they've come in do you know what i mean so i think they've got a really good chance for them to keep on going forward so population on the sga 713 on his silver psa 10.

00:05:08.76
Adz
Yeah, yeah.

00:05:12.47
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:17.94
Adz
Okay.

00:05:18.51
Russell Gibson
uh he's currently trading at nearly 1600 so

00:05:23.13
Adz
Yeah.

00:05:24.42
Russell Gibson
That's gone up a lot. So if we're looking at the last six months, that's up 68%. In the last 12 months, that is up, well, it's 95%.

00:05:35.55
Russell Gibson
So, yeah.

00:05:35.92
Adz
It's lot.

00:05:37.66
Russell Gibson
And look, I think you know I've been right about some things. I've been wrong about lots of stuff and I was absolutely wrong on this. And so little bit of egg on my face in that instance, because I think at around the $500 mark, I remember talking to you about this and we were like,

00:05:54.07
Russell Gibson
This is too much. How much more can this card go up? Well, you know, it's gone up a lot.

00:05:59.61
Adz
It just keeps going.

00:06:00.92
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:06:01.48
Adz
Yeah.

00:06:01.69
Russell Gibson
And look, I still feel very uncomfortable looking at a silver PSA 10 with a population of 700 at that price, but, you know, you can't argue with it. And for all those reasons that I said before, i still feel pretty confident in it.

00:06:15.35
Adz
Look, it's ah it's interesting to see the rise and fall of prices. Like there was the original spike. I said the original spike this time around. So you look back, I've got the two year, um,

00:06:24.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah.

00:06:28.78
Adz
prices like the the the price movement up what i'm interested in here is we're looking at sales of 1200 to in march 2025. from there and this is when he obviously won the mvp and won the the championship he's actually dropped out and dropped down to 800 september 25.

00:06:54.94
Adz
by september twenty five which which baffles me to that, that's post victory.

00:06:57.17
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:07:03.19
Adz
And then, I mean, obviously you've seen the start of the season. um He's come out like a bull out of a gate and yeah, obviously leading the, yeah, leading the MVP race at the moment due to a few people falling out of the race as well, but whatever.

00:07:19.10
Adz
um But yeah, you're right. Now he's back up at that 1,500 mark. So I don't know, maybe maybe there is a bounce back. Maybe this is the the market stabilizing on him.

00:07:28.79
Russell Gibson
no Yeah, it's really interesting, man, isn't it? So the next one on my list is Luca and I've got him further down the ladder, if you want to use that analogy.

00:07:34.82
Adz
Yep.

00:07:39.15
Russell Gibson
And the reason I've got him further down is no MVP, no championship. And I think if we're talking about sports cards in particular, the population on his silver PSA 10 is insane.

00:07:44.25
Adz
working on We're working on that. We're working on it.

00:07:50.04
Adz
Yep.

00:07:54.08
Russell Gibson
Would you like to try and have a guess at where he's currently sitting at?

00:07:58.76
Adz
I've got it up on the screen. 2,410 my guess.

00:08:00.22
Russell Gibson
Ah, okay. Well, yeah. So basically, you know, for people at home, that's nearly four times higher than what the SGA is, which I think is a really interesting discussion point because you've got one guy who's got the championship, got the MVP.

00:08:17.04
Russell Gibson
It's arguably a rarer card, but it's the same price. So... When I look at this Luca card, I actually get even, yes, I had concerns about the SGA, but this gives me a lot more concerns on, on this very particular card.

00:08:31.63
Russell Gibson
And so, mean,

00:08:35.19
Adz
can

00:08:35.34
Russell Gibson
yeah, yeah, go.

00:08:36.15
Adz
Can I point something out though? He's older than Luka.

00:08:43.78
Adz
He's a year older than Luka.

00:08:47.10
Adz
Just to put it into context, SGA is a year older than Luka Doncic.

00:08:52.78
Russell Gibson
How can I say this? I'm not discarding that fact, but I think both of them are still relatively young. I think this.

00:08:58.39
Adz
Agree, 100%. A lot of people were asked to guess.

00:08:59.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I think they've still got time to go on their prime. Yeah.

00:09:02.29
Adz
there were I was watching some of the NBA. Some people were guess it trying to guess Luca's age.

00:09:06.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah. yeah yeah

00:09:07.62
Adz
There were players who were like, he's 29. They're like, no, he's 26. They're like, oh he's 31.

00:09:10.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:09:12.38
Adz
They're like, really? What? But, yeah, they're like, they think he's in his late 20s.

00:09:14.62
Russell Gibson
He's just been around for so long. Yeah.

00:09:17.48
Adz
He's only just leaving his mid-20s.

00:09:19.64
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:09:20.63
Adz
So.

00:09:21.37
Russell Gibson
Look, I think my hot take here has to be that that's a sell at 1,500.

00:09:26.36
Adz
Really?

00:09:27.06
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I just think with that population, man, the safer bet is SGA. Yeah.

00:09:34.08
Adz
Our population count wise, yes, but I mean, we can, we can have the population count discussion with the next player as well.

00:09:42.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah. All right So just really quickly, the blue fast break to 175 at the Luca, that's currently trading at 5,000. Yes, I know it's a lot more money, but the population on that's just 76. So I think that, for example, i'd be flipping out of silver, moving into something that's numbered and all lower pop.

00:09:53.57
Adz
Yep.

00:09:59.86
Russell Gibson
That to me makes a whole lot more sense. Next on my list is Wemby. I love this guy, but I very deliberately put him third. And the reason I have done that is because I do worry about his injuries, despite the fact that I think he is the, maybe the most talented out of these three guys. And I so i know that almost sounds a bit sacrilegious to say too. I just think the skillset that he has, we've never never seen anything like this before.

00:10:28.91
Adz
He's ah definitely a freak of nature.

00:10:30.14
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:10:30.31
Adz
um the injury The injury factor is probably the scariest thing there as far as prospecting on how long this career goes for, how how much Wemby we actually get.

00:10:34.87
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:10:39.26
Russell Gibson
Yeah. He seems the most fragile in my mind.

00:10:43.61
Adz
Hmm.

00:10:43.83
Russell Gibson
ah You're alluding to population, so I feel like you should walk us into this, man, because you're absolutely right. It's staggering.

00:10:50.94
Adz
At the time of recording, we're not quite at the 5,000 mark, but we are damn near close. Current population count on the PSA 10 silver is 4,946.

00:10:59.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:11:00.14
Adz
That's lot. That is. And it gems at rate almost 62%.

00:11:04.91
Adz
that's a lot

00:11:06.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah, that's insane.

00:11:07.93
Adz
that is and it and it gems at a rate of almost sixty two percent

00:11:14.44
Russell Gibson
It's real funny because it's impossible to know how much stuff has been printed year to year. And I will admit that that particular Wemby year, there wasn't a lot of other prospects to go in on it. And and i think I think a lot of people just went down the Wemby route and they didn't have the same spread. So i will acknowledge that. but

00:11:38.74
Russell Gibson
i I wonder if there was 10 X printed in 2023 versus like 2017, you know, maybe.

00:11:47.45
Adz
Oh, look, there was already, we were already the other side of the COVID lunatic stage where Panini were trying to print as much product as possible.

00:11:53.14
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but I still think they kept printing it.

00:11:55.26
Adz
So there's no doubt.

00:11:56.91
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:11:57.24
Adz
Yeah, a hundred percent. There's no doubt in my mind that they, the print runs on the Wemby product were, were, were much higher.

00:11:58.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:12:08.31
Russell Gibson
Total population on the silver 8,400. is going to There is just no way that does not get to

00:12:17.34
Adz
Yeah, I was just looking at the population growth on the the grades.

00:12:17.53
Russell Gibson
which is just

00:12:21.06
Adz
Yeah, people are still grading them. They they go up 10 to 15 a month. So highly likely if we check back in four or five months, we've seen that Wemby number on card ladder go above 5,000 in the PSA

00:12:35.86
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:12:36.89
Adz
and the psa tends

00:12:38.26
Russell Gibson
So I think you're right. So when you say there's a population of 1,500, sorry, 2,400 on the Luca and then nearly 5,000 on the Wemby, you're right.

00:12:51.00
Russell Gibson
It doesn't make it look like that much, does it? But this doesn't make me want to buy it though, ad you know?

00:12:55.95
Adz
it's it's real It's relative to popularity though, right? So this is the other part of supply and demand. Understand that a low pop count, under 100 is amazing, under 1,000 is pretty good, over 2,000 is concerning, 5,000 is ridiculous, but they've all got very similar prices.

00:13:16.41
Adz
This could be a matter of, and this isn't to It's one of my opportunities to, and I don't want to, discredit SGA. I don't think his hobby popularity is anywhere near as good as Luka and Wemby's hobby popularity.

00:13:33.11
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:13:34.10
Adz
I think the fact that Luka's now in Los Angeles has stopped the bubble from bursting, so to speak, because now all the Lakers fans are on board.

00:13:43.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:13:46.23
Adz
They are a huge, it's a big market, a big passionate collector base, Lakers fans. So Luka to be part of that family, they're going to want a piece of it.

00:13:57.85
Russell Gibson
I agree with you a lot on that. I think that even though SGA is the more logical person to be number one on my Rushmore, the hobby darling is Luca.

00:14:06.65
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:14:09.50
Russell Gibson
My issue with Wemby, and i I do believe there's some darling factor on this guy, but I think this is going to be a very volatile asset. And if you go to the all time on this, you can already see it's been up and down a little bit. And there was ah a buying opportunity and a buying window. Remember when he got injured last year?

00:14:26.79
Adz
I do. It dropped, it dipped. It did.

00:14:28.25
Russell Gibson
It went down. So I think a lot of people bought it, but I also think too, like this, this, that's a very, very stiff rice.

00:14:33.70
Adz
This card was selling, the card was selling for two and a half thousand on release.

00:14:34.42
Russell Gibson
Like, look at that.

00:14:39.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Then it was down to like seven, 600, 700.

00:14:42.44
Adz
Uh huh.

00:14:43.10
Russell Gibson
There's, you know, sales around that.

00:14:44.50
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:44.50
Russell Gibson
Now it's up to, you know, one eight, one seven.

00:14:47.47
Adz
Yeah.

00:14:48.02
Russell Gibson
And so, you know, I would be very, very cautious buying into that. If he does get injured, I think that will drop like a stone.

00:14:55.51
Adz
How many years do you reckon his career has got to go for him? What does he need to achieve to make sure that, that the injury thing no longer becomes a concern though? Cause I think there's gotta come a time where he's achieved enough, but yeah, I don't know.

00:15:07.91
Russell Gibson
Like, this is where I keep going back to Tim Duncan. It's like, you've got a guy with a resume like Duncan. and it's like, ah what are you hoping for? Like, to be as good as Tim Duncan? So then why don't you just buy a Duncan rookie?

00:15:21.50
Adz
Yeah, exactly. It's it's.

00:15:23.51
Russell Gibson
Are you hoping that he's going to be better than Duncan?

00:15:26.17
Adz
I feel like the hobby is more about the the how they feel about the player rather than the accolades and achievements of the player.

00:15:32.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah, and the current sort of grift that goes on to.

00:15:33.11
Adz
Like there's, yeah. That's it.

00:15:35.93
Russell Gibson
So maybe I should have Tim Duncan on my top shelf instead of Wemby.

00:15:41.02
Adz
Well, he's definitely not one of the young guns. who it It's the new age of collecting. where tip Duncan had his shot. and he didn't make He didn't make Rushmore.

00:15:50.64
Russell Gibson
Tier two is Cooper Flagg, Anthony Edwards, and Giannis. We're not going to talk about every player like we did on on my tier one, but we'll really quickly look at Giannis because I think he's always the most interesting

00:16:01.34
Adz
You know what? I think he's an old player and shouldn't be on there. He's had his crack and I think he's had his peak and he's declining.

00:16:10.65
Russell Gibson
So my counter argument to that would be that

00:16:10.68
Adz
Anyway, that was me.

00:16:14.04
Russell Gibson
he might be traded to Los Angeles, which if you get Giannis, I'm going to hate you almost forever, to be honest. um New York is an option. And, you know, of course, Miami is always trying to like poach people. So this is currently trading at 7,500 and the population on this is 87. And I think that's why you have to at least consider this guy to be, you Rushmore-esque.

00:16:39.48
Russell Gibson
I think the value is all the way up there. And I think the population is Delicious. There's nothing short of saying that.

00:16:49.75
Russell Gibson
My next tier is tier three. I've got Tatum. I've got Cade Cunningham. I've got Banchero. I think we should actually really quickly look at Tatum because he's been injured for a bit. So this can actually present you with buying opportunities.

00:17:05.87
Russell Gibson
There's also some rumors that he's going to be coming back shortly. He's actually up the last three months.

00:17:14.97
Adz
Really?

00:17:15.45
Russell Gibson
I am fascinated by this. All right. So let's look at the last 12 months. He's up 15%. If you look at the last six months, he's up 35%. And the last three months, he's up 60%. That is insane.

00:17:29.39
Adz
All right, we'll put some sanity back into it.

00:17:32.70
Russell Gibson
I cannot believe that. i would have said this is going to be down 60% the last three months.

00:17:38.88
Adz
I'm looking at the two-year thing, and he's practically, well, he's down 7%. seven percent Like he's pretty much that. Do you remember over the last couple of years we talked about him being the benchmark, the the the pulse of the hobby?

00:17:48.66
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Yeah. I, and I love that.

00:17:53.14
Adz
No, he's still doing it though. Like the prices have now recovered and stapled.

00:17:54.90
Russell Gibson
That's one of the best takes. I'll say that's one of our better takes, honestly. ed

00:18:00.12
Adz
Like being injured for the whole year, he stayed stable.

00:18:02.71
Russell Gibson
And stable. Yeah.

00:18:06.26
Russell Gibson
I will take that every day of the week, by the way.

00:18:08.76
Adz
It's, um yeah, look, tatum Tatum's at a crossroads and needs to perform post-injury though.

00:18:09.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:18:15.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:18:16.37
Adz
That's my my take. And i'll go I'll go through my two waves on that. And I think there are a couple players that are at that crossroad of their career.

00:18:23.61
Russell Gibson
Yeah. My last one, just to be fun and not controversial, but just to joke around a bit, Vijay Edgecombe. I think that's just fun to put like a nice young prospect on there.

00:18:33.48
Adz
I like it.

00:18:33.60
Russell Gibson
He's balling that kid. i love his game. i love his attitude. He's a competitor, so he's got an outside chance.

00:18:41.72
Adz
um right

00:18:43.42
Russell Gibson
All right.

00:18:43.51
Adz
An outside chance. Look, I'm i'm not going to go and reinvent the wheel, except I did Rushmore in Rushmore-esque style. i've got I've got two main categories and then I've got my honourable mentions.

00:18:51.61
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:18:56.71
Adz
They all come in fours. ah Luca, SGA, Wemby, and Anthony Edwards are my four future Rushmore candidates.

00:19:08.12
Russell Gibson
Yeah, cool.

00:19:08.92
Adz
um All of them, we've talked about three of them, the fourth being Edwards. Look, I think if Edwards wins with the Timberwolves, that really changes his trajectory and is going elevate him to another level.

00:19:22.61
Russell Gibson
If we can get that team to a championship, that's fantastic and that's insane.

00:19:26.80
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:19:27.29
Russell Gibson
Like that's a huge achievement.

00:19:27.49
Adz
and And that's, that is, and and he's got the swagger to go with it.

00:19:32.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah, definitely.

00:19:32.87
Adz
That's what I like about Edwards. Um,

00:19:35.51
Russell Gibson
Last sold for 900 bucks population, 2233. Yep. That's fine. Yep.

00:19:39.80
Adz
Nice. um The second wave, I've got Tatum in here. I don't have Giannis because in my view, Giannis has hit his peak and he' his career is established.

00:19:47.30
Russell Gibson
that's fine

00:19:49.24
Adz
I don't think he's ever getting to Rushmore um because i I put the asterisks on LeBron, not Steph. I put Kobe, Jordan, Steph as locks for Mount Rushmore in the hobby aspect.

00:20:02.68
Adz
But LeBron could fall off and who usurps LeBron? I don't see Giannis doing it. um just because he's on the downward trajectory of his career. So my wave two is Cade, Cooper Flagg, Tatum, and Paolo Banchero. I've got the asterisks next to Tatum and Paolo, purely for the fact that this is Paolo's make or break. If you don't start succeeding and showing us you're a superstar, you're out.

00:20:29.21
Russell Gibson
Yeah,

00:20:30.14
Adz
We're off. And if Tatum doesn't come back, it's the same thing.

00:20:31.13
Russell Gibson
i

00:20:33.94
Russell Gibson
I agree with you. I think he's definitely at a crossroads at the moment. Cade's card's interesting to talk about. Last sold for $800, population $376. So again, comping that back to Luka, Wemby, that's like real juicy for me.

00:20:46.71
Adz
Yeah.

00:20:49.38
Russell Gibson
i like that population on that card. And I think that

00:20:51.74
Adz
I think Cade's a good one. Yeah.

00:20:53.38
Russell Gibson
That's a hold at the moment and or a buy. I think that's a really interesting hobby piece at the moment.

00:21:00.47
Adz
Yeah. I think Cade Cunningham is, um and the Detroit Pistons ah aren't a joke at the moment. They're, they're right at the top of the, the East.

00:21:08.22
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:21:08.95
Adz
So yeah,

00:21:09.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:21:10.49
Adz
Something to be watching out for. um Players that that that are honorable mentions that are on their way. I've got Jalen Johnson and Armin Thompson. it's they're They're young.

00:21:22.74
Adz
They're performing well. I don't know if Jalen Johnson's done too well since the Trae Young trade, but we will see what happens with that.

00:21:26.81
Russell Gibson
No, he has not.

00:21:29.41
Adz
And then it's the Tyreeses. I've got Tyrese Maxey and Tyrese Halliburton as the next next in line to shoot for the Stars.

00:21:39.95
Russell Gibson
All right. Maxi, 602 pop, last sold for 325. actually want to do quick check Halliburton.

00:21:47.51
Russell Gibson
i actually want to do a quick check on halliburton

00:21:53.91
Russell Gibson
Because he's been injured, i would love to see what's happened to his value. He is also rebounded. So he's trading at 350. Pop on that is In the last three months, he's up that has to be people prospecting on him coming back

00:22:13.94
Adz
He's been doing some work. He's been out on the floor doing a few drills. ah He did make an appearance on LeBron James' podcast, having a chat filled in for Steve Nash. They had a chat.

00:22:25.53
Adz
It actually quite a good listen. um But he's in the media a little bit He's talking through. i think he's actually making his presence felt. So maybe that is a rebound because I think he will rebound well coming back from injury.

00:22:41.02
Adz
Actually, I think he'll assist well coming back from injury. That's a basketball joke. Anyway. Yeah.

00:22:46.65
Russell Gibson
Well done.

00:22:48.48
Adz
I reckon he'll get over 10 assists in a lot of games.

00:22:48.62
Russell Gibson
Quite good.

00:22:51.83
Adz
I don't think he'll get over 10 rebounds in a lot of games. Not that kind of guy.

00:22:56.56
Russell Gibson
No.

00:22:56.95
Adz
Anyway. yeah

00:22:59.06
Russell Gibson
Anyway, thank you so much, Andy, for your inspiration. We really appreciate it, mate. And on that note, we are going to go to our first advertisement. Thank you to the Hobby Hangout and providing us with an amazing event in Melbourne coming up on the 26th of April this year at the Royal Exhibition building in Carlton. Doors open at 10.30am. They finish at 5.30pm. 400 tables, sports cards, NBA, NFL, MLB, AFL, NRL, soccer, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, one piece, MTG, entertainment cards, live breaks, trading zones, free play areas, expert panels, speakers and international guests. Adam and will be there representing. You can't comp this. We can't wait to mingle with you guys.

00:23:46.42
Russell Gibson
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00:23:58.65
Russell Gibson
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00:24:08.62
Russell Gibson
We're back, Ad. How you doing, buddy?

00:24:10.52
Adz
I'm very, very good.

00:24:14.09
Russell Gibson
All righty. Last week we did a bit of a live run and I i want a second go at this because I did it really poorly. You're talking about the upper deck exquisite Kobe Bryant number 250.

00:24:26.84
Russell Gibson
One of the benefits of doing live content is you crap out sometimes and I bombed out real bad.

00:24:31.99
Adz
ah

00:24:34.01
Russell Gibson
It last sold for $27,000 in 2022. think I said it was going to sell for or something absolutely ridiculous.

00:24:46.07
Russell Gibson
My revised comp of what I think it's going to sell for next is $79,000, and that's by doubling it and giving it 10% each year. However, i found a BGS 8.5 that literally just sold in the last couple of weeks, and that sold for $62K. So maybe it would sell for about $58K, something like that.

00:25:10.84
Adz
Interesting.

00:25:11.42
Russell Gibson
Yeah, so thanks for giving me the second chance to redeem myself.

00:25:15.58
Adz
Redemption.

00:25:15.90
Russell Gibson
um I appreciate it. Now, speaking of redeeming themselves, Tops are back in the news, providing us with an update today. on their mega boxes. And this literally just dropped today earlier this morning. So we're following up regarding the 2025, 26 top screen basketball mega boxes and the packaging language that reference Chase exclusive blue X-Fractors. We've heard feedback from some collectors and based on that input have decided to make blue X-Fractors reference on the packaging available to collectors. While we do not believe there is any value difference between silver and blue X-Fractors, we understand some collectors prefer the blue version. Yes, Topps, people collect different variants.

00:25:56.79
Russell Gibson
Of course they're mad they didn't get what you advertised.

00:25:58.84
Adz
ah the blue are The blue one's numbered though.

00:26:02.30
Russell Gibson
Who knows?

00:26:03.16
Adz
Hmm.

00:26:04.68
Russell Gibson
Topps will be printing the blue X-Fractors, offering collectors the ability to exchange silver X-Fractors for blue X-Fractors on a one-for-one basis. To exchange them, click on the link. Blue X-Fractice will begin shipping by the end of March and all submissions will be created must be created by June 30th. Allow six to eight weeks for processing fulfillment. All right. So the first thing I want to say is I think it's really good they're doing something. I think it's really good they're being public about this and they're addressing it and listening to people. That's like...

00:26:36.73
Russell Gibson
amazing. And Panini never did this. Panini's tactic was to do radio silence and just not reply, not have a customer service hotline, not, you know, they had someone who'd answered emails, but once in a blue moon, right?

00:26:41.19
Adz
true

00:26:50.33
Russell Gibson
So like, you know, give them their flowers on that, but like just taking this back full circle, I don't think it's fair to be like, you get something out of a box and then you have to swap it back.

00:27:02.38
Adz
But it reminds me of the old redemption cards that, like, send in your packaging labels to get X, Y, Z. I know, it's not the same. Send in a card and get the opposite card.

00:27:10.07
Russell Gibson
Yeah, but mate but make it kind of like good. So for example, you send in your packet and you send in your base card and you then get a blue, right?

00:27:20.18
Adz
Then you get, yeah, yeah, yeah, fair, fair.

00:27:23.16
Russell Gibson
Because I feel like now it's almost ah like an intelligence test. Like, do you want a silver or do you want a blue? And we know that the market prefers the silver. So people are going to want to keep the silver X fractures.

00:27:37.18
Adz
All right, I've got the article up and it's also got click here to get the link. My question is if I click, it says that my antivirus said that this link is safe, so I'm gonna click it blindly.

00:27:49.02
Russell Gibson
ah Okay.

00:27:50.58
Adz
i it It says to exchange your blue for your blue X Factor, please click the link below. I'm waiting to get Rick rolled right now.

00:28:01.91
Russell Gibson
That would be sweet if they did do that.

00:28:02.81
Adz
Now, ja if it was not boring, damn it, damn it. actually click to the actual link on the top site tops ripped i'm i'm not trading my silver for a blue that's for sure

00:28:11.86
Russell Gibson
But do you think that's a fair trade, a silver for a blue? Like no one in the hobby is trading a silver for a blue.

00:28:21.08
Russell Gibson
And I actually think they've done it like this on purpose so they don't have to ship cards out because I think they know like very, very few people are going to take them up on this offer.

00:28:29.68
Adz
right but if the blues were all numbered to 199 would you

00:28:34.07
Russell Gibson
So I think if they're actually genuinely ultra rare, and this is actually something you can make a play on, because you can say, look, there's going to be heaps of these silver X-Fractors out there, but how many people are going to hit them, go to the effort to get them?

00:28:44.57
Adz
have the blue ones.

00:28:46.51
Russell Gibson
So you can bring them back, send them off to PSA, and you've got a card with a population of two, three, or five, something like that, right?

00:28:53.02
Adz
SSP value effectively.

00:28:53.06
Russell Gibson
I think, yeah, I think you could definitely look at that as a play. And I think this is where I'm going to tap into you like your mindset here. on the color matches, like really play into that color match low pop.

00:29:04.34
Adz
Yeah. So if it

00:29:08.22
Russell Gibson
Okay, great. I've got something that's collectible now.

00:29:10.91
Adz
I got a Paolo. I'm going to go and get the blue. i've got a Cade.

00:29:12.92
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:29:13.35
Adz
I'm going to get the blue. Yeah.

00:29:15.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Cause that color match stuff does look very neat. We don't need to crap on about this too much longer. Do we?

00:29:22.07
Adz
No, no. I just wanted to make sure we weren't getting Rickrolled.

00:29:23.02
Russell Gibson
That's it. All right, let's done.

00:29:24.63
Adz
That's it.

00:29:25.29
Russell Gibson
No. Paul George has been given a 25 game ban, which is going to cost him $12 million dollars in salary. um This was reported by Shams.

00:29:36.24
Russell Gibson
This is, again, it's only come out really recently, so all the information is not out on this, but it wasn't a PED. It was a medication for his mental health. So essentially, i don't think it would be marijuana because I i don't think they get 25 game bans for this unless this is like his third or his fourth positive for it.

00:29:52.34
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:29:53.98
Russell Gibson
I actually wonder if it was like a prescription medicine that he's acquired without a prescription. that This is my... completely speculative, um, two cents on this.

00:30:05.21
Adz
yeah

00:30:07.53
Russell Gibson
And I'm very interested to hear what he says. And the reason I say that, I wonder if it's like a Benzo because he's been very vocal about the mental health care of NBA athletes.

00:30:20.66
Adz
Yeah, it's possible.

00:30:21.94
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:30:22.20
Adz
um Look, I think he's very easy accepting it. He's like, it's a genuine mistake. Look, there are a lot of criticisms out criticism out there about it's pretty simple. if you're going to put something in your body, you've been in the league for long enough, you should know.

00:30:38.55
Adz
So the fact he's copying it on the chin, it's been discovered.

00:30:41.53
Russell Gibson
I don't think yeah he denied it or anything like that.

00:30:41.72
Adz
and No, no, no.

00:30:46.20
Russell Gibson
it

00:30:47.03
Adz
I think he knew the risk when he took it.

00:30:47.11
Russell Gibson
It's really interesting, isn't it?

00:30:49.11
Adz
I think he knew that if he got tested, he was going to get done.

00:30:50.36
Russell Gibson
Oh, for sure.

00:30:53.04
Russell Gibson
it's It's really interesting, though, because it's definitely not something that increased his performance.

00:30:59.26
Adz
Uh-huh. It's just a bad, but it's a banned substance.

00:31:01.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah. I just find those ones real interesting because... We've most likely got people in the league who are using PEDs at the moment that aren't currently tested for.

00:31:13.24
Russell Gibson
And for you guys at home, my ultimate tinfoil hat theory is that human growth hormone is going to be tested for the day LeBron retire.

00:31:14.46
Adz
You don't, you don't have to test when you're over 40.

00:31:22.96
Russell Gibson
So that's what I'm like alluding to here. Yeah.

00:31:25.28
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:31:26.17
Russell Gibson
Anyway, all right. Leaked information from Fanatics Live. Again, I don't know how long we talk about this, but I think we actually have to mention it. This has been picked up by Dan the Card Man and every other guy who loves to talk about the tragedies of the hobby. But I do think we have to talk about this. So basically what has happened is a whole bunch of financial numbers has been leaked internally from Topps and Fanatics. So I'm sure they're going to hunt that guy down and burn him at the stake.

00:31:56.06
Russell Gibson
And what the numbers are basically talking about is is who's their biggest allocation to and how much money they get from that person. And also to encouraging people to come onto their Fanatics Live platform.

00:32:08.75
Adz
Yeah.

00:32:09.27
Russell Gibson
And then also to to give them preferential um allocation of stock.

00:32:12.41
Adz
Treatment.

00:32:13.82
Russell Gibson
So Blowout Cards is number one at 49 and DA Card Worlds at 42. Actually, i would have thought DA would be number one.

00:32:22.32
Adz
The other way around, but yeah.

00:32:22.71
Russell Gibson
But, you know, i i knew those two guys were like, you know, one and two or if not level, but I always just assumed blowout was bigger. um Next comes in Blaise at 17 million.

00:32:33.62
Adz
Yep.

00:32:33.85
Russell Gibson
We the Hobby at 13.6, Filth Bomb, which we've were spoken before about on the podcast, they're coming in at 12.9 and then Backyard Breaks coming in at 9.9.

00:32:40.01
Adz
I wide.

00:32:43.49
Russell Gibson
So i think from my perspective, this really does give you a a context of how much money is in this hobby. And we talk about print runs and we talk about all this type of stuff and actually – that's a really good way to look at it and go, okay, like that's a lot of, you know, that's a lot of money.

00:32:59.42
Adz
black and white

00:33:02.28
Russell Gibson
And ah do you know what's actually really interesting too is that Walmart's not mentioned, Target's not mentioned, you know, for less of a an example, which is nowhere near as good, but like, you know, like the GameStop, all those type of chains, like they're not mentioned in that either.

00:33:21.68
Russell Gibson
So,

00:33:22.65
Adz
do they But they don't take hobby products.

00:33:25.78
Russell Gibson
But retail would do a heap of money. I just thought that...

00:33:29.43
Adz
I just feel like the volume in in retail is is more spread out. But maybe you're right. But maybe this is hobby for breaking.

00:33:37.91
Russell Gibson
Or maybe the retail just doesn't get the drop in the bucket that Blowout gets.

00:33:42.26
Adz
Yeah, that's true.

00:33:44.02
Russell Gibson
So the other thing to talk about too is how that essentially fanatics will be double dippy on this. So they sell it to people, then they get a percentage of that total yield back on their breaks.

00:33:53.24
Adz
Yeah, true.

00:33:54.39
Russell Gibson
through their Fanatics Live platform. And so also the pressure that must be putting on whatnot. And then the other competitor into this space is eBay Live, which we've got a representative coming in from eBay next week's show.

00:34:02.65
Adz
Yeah.

00:34:06.78
Russell Gibson
If everything goes to schedule, we've got someone from eBay coming on next week. So I actually think it'd be good to talk to him about this and how you know they're competing against this because those numbers, that's juggernaut stuff.

00:34:16.92
Adz
Yeah, it's pretty insane, isn't it?

00:34:18.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah. What do you want to talk about this before we move on? I don't think we need to get into it any more inflammatory than that.

00:34:25.07
Adz
Oh, look, it's – I don't like – I just don't like it when people – like there leaks or hacks or – like I think there needs to be more transparency, but we don't don't need to know the sales volumes of people's accounts and the special – the financial data and the stuff doesn't need to come to light.

00:34:46.31
Adz
mean, we already suspect preferential treatment, so – That's not a secret.

00:34:50.20
Russell Gibson
I think...

00:34:51.58
Adz
Like someone that spends $50 million dollars a year is gonna get better treatment than me who spends $50 a year. Do you know what I mean? It's, there's a level of, it's obvious when you think about it, right?

00:35:00.82
Russell Gibson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The logic's there.

00:35:07.90
Russell Gibson
I think that the person who leaked that did that very deliberately. And they're either a disgruntled employee or someone who got shafted.

00:35:12.92
Adz
yeah You don't accidentally leak that. You definitely don't accidentally leak that stuff.

00:35:16.41
Russell Gibson
No, 100%. hundred percent Yeah, yeah.

00:35:17.94
Adz
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

00:35:19.77
Russell Gibson
All right. A Topps related story. This is from the Collectible Gurus. Topps finest appears to have sold out within minutes. Did anyone get a box or a case? Did you get anything, Ad?

00:35:30.59
Adz
Nope.

00:35:31.35
Russell Gibson
Will you be going into breaks, buying some loose packets, maybe your own hobby box?

00:35:34.17
Adz
Oh, it's actually the set I would have loved to to get my hands on, but I didn't even know it was on the pre-release on anywhere, let alone, yeah, live being purchased, so.

00:35:37.84
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:35:46.25
Russell Gibson
Yeah. I actually don't mind it. And I did a small break today actually. And I was talking about tops Chrome and how actually it's quite, it's quite nice to look at

00:35:55.58
Adz
Oh, I like Chrome, but this is finest. Yeah. Top's finest is it's one of those. It's a very beautiful set. Yeah.

00:36:02.74
Russell Gibson
I think I've been a little bit slow to come around to the top stuff, but actually it's not as bad as I was probably anticipating.

00:36:09.82
Adz
You mean now that we've got more than one release? yeah you Wait a second. Really?

00:36:14.01
Russell Gibson
I think the, no, I think the, I think the logos has helped me a lot. I think them being in the uniforms, look, I will say i like the colors on the parallels, but I think the inserts, I really did love the art and the risks that Panini took on their inserts.

00:36:17.64
Adz
Yeah. Yep.

00:36:29.08
Adz
Yeah.

00:36:29.85
Russell Gibson
I don't feel the same way about the tops ones, but I'm sure they're going to bring out something that's going quite nice.

00:36:34.87
Adz
as i was going to say, as, as we get more releases, we'll see different, different, um different things pop up.

00:36:38.41
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Hopefully some more.

00:36:41.12
Adz
Hopefully.

00:36:42.10
Russell Gibson
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00:37:06.42
Russell Gibson
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00:37:24.89
Russell Gibson
Thank you again to US Sports Cards Australia for your ongoing love and support. Alrighty, Adam, we are back. Now, are these next two cards, I'm just going to sit back and relax, and you're going to talk to me about some Kobe Bryant.

00:37:40.79
Adz
Some beautiful cards.

00:37:42.57
Russell Gibson
Yeah, I thought you'd appreciate these.

00:37:43.58
Adz
I just, ah it's been it's been one of those. It's a really tough couple of weeks, um personally anyway, speaking for as a Kobe fan. In January when we celebrate the 22nd of January being the breaking of the 81-point game, the 20-year anniversary, it's an amazing day.

00:38:05.40
Russell Gibson
You mean the 82 point game, as I called it?

00:38:05.48
Adz
Everyone's like, yeah.

00:38:08.50
Adz
well Everyone else celebrates the 81-point game.

00:38:11.96
Russell Gibson
ah

00:38:12.49
Adz
Russell celebrates the 82-point game.

00:38:14.42
Russell Gibson
Yeah, you know.

00:38:14.89
Adz
um Yeah. and but But then, like, five days later, we we're we're in mourning, remembering that it's it's the day that Kobe passed as well.

00:38:25.78
Russell Gibson
Yeah, right.

00:38:26.58
Adz
So it's...

00:38:27.86
Russell Gibson
Such a rollercoaster week.

00:38:28.95
Adz
It is.

00:38:29.36
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:38:29.43
Adz
So this year was six years since, um, since, since Kobe, um, passed away and all those, well, everyone passed away in those helicopters.

00:38:39.66
Adz
It wasn't just hope Kobe and his daughter, but a lot of people in that helicopter.

00:38:41.46
Russell Gibson
Yeah. That's actually a good way to put it, man. That wasn't, yes, obviously Kobe did pass, but yeah, there was a few people that perished.

00:38:48.28
Adz
A loss of a lot of life that day, yeah.

00:38:49.71
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:38:50.36
Adz
Yeah, so um it's it's a bit of an up and down. There are a lot of tributes, a lot of lot of videos that get shared, lot of tears that get shared as well by myself. But yeah, seeing a few of these cards and things is just, gets to take through the highlight reel.

00:39:05.53
Adz
So I'll go the first one.

00:39:05.69
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:39:07.12
Adz
This one of one was just found in a binder.

00:39:10.68
Russell Gibson
Yeah. This is the stuff of dreams, isn't it?

00:39:12.12
Adz
that is it That is a ah sick Kobe. Literally a one of one found it. Can you imagine that someone shows you their collection and you realize that it's actually a Kobe one of one?

00:39:26.20
Russell Gibson
actually think that's easy to miss too.

00:39:29.05
Adz
Yeah. That's

00:39:31.70
Russell Gibson
It's not that obvious of a one of one.

00:39:31.85
Adz
insane.

00:39:35.79
Adz
2007. It's just, it's a special card. And it's a very, um it's one of those great action shots.

00:39:45.50
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's a beautiful photo.

00:39:46.49
Adz
Like a mid-year action, mid-shot action shot. So, yeah. So what does it what it say? Our lovely friends at SportsCardInvestor, Hot Tops, silver one of one discovered after a collector bought a stack of binders for $100.

00:40:07.93
Adz
Watch this space. It will be on up for auction some point.

00:40:10.71
Russell Gibson
This sounds like JoFu's wet dream.

00:40:14.23
Adz
Yeah, it very much, I'm sure Joe's going to come across something like this in his lifetime. Hopefully he gets a random shack because then he can just add it to the PC.

00:40:18.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:40:24.52
Russell Gibson
A one-on-one shock. Yeah.

00:40:25.87
Adz
That's it. That's it. The other Kobe is a Card Ladder Highlight Noteworthy $30,300. sale thirty thousand three hundred dollars So clearly this wasn't a Wondershine purchase.

00:40:39.96
Adz
three hundred dollars is assured us of that

00:40:43.26
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:40:43.54
Adz
Maybe they're trying to mess with us. The 1998 Skybox Premium Kobe Bryant Intimidation Nation PSA 10 pop count 11. Yeah, $30,000. It's just got one of those those a stone cold look on Kobe's face.

00:41:02.01
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:41:02.98
Adz
it's um Yeah, that man is ah is a killer. The intimidation is real. What a card. Beautiful card.

00:41:12.50
Russell Gibson
All right. Hear me out for a second, right?

00:41:14.68
Adz
Yep.

00:41:15.60
Russell Gibson
That's expensive. I'm not trying to downplay this at all, but we've just seen a whole bunch of Jordan sell for some of them less than that. I'll admit that. And some of them a lot more, but with significantly higher populations on it.

00:41:31.10
Russell Gibson
I think that is a very shrewd purchase. Obviously you'd want to, like you can see the lesser sales that it's been cheaper before, but I still think even at 30 K with the population of 11 on that, I think you put that into a vault.

00:41:37.17
Adz
Mm.

00:41:41.98
Adz
and Mm.

00:41:44.47
Russell Gibson
I think that is a yeah very, very shrewd purchase.

00:41:44.90
Adz
I like it.

00:41:47.18
Russell Gibson
i think the only thing you'd have to do research on is like how many more of these are floating around.

00:41:54.39
Adz
Yeah, that's true.

00:41:56.11
Russell Gibson
What's the potential that the pop could go to 30?

00:41:56.36
Adz
Yeah.

00:41:59.26
Russell Gibson
Am I worried that my investment is going to get watered down like that? But that's, um yeah, that's a really, i think that's a really good purchase. Yeah.

00:42:09.05
Adz
Nice paces.

00:42:11.53
Russell Gibson
Alrighty, keeping in the one of one vein, we've got this LeBron James Black Prism from 2022 Prism. It graded a Gem Mint 10.

00:42:22.91
Russell Gibson
It's sold on Fanatics Collect for $222,000. Yeah.

00:42:33.78
Adz
Wow.

00:42:34.07
Russell Gibson
im I'm like this one i find super challenging because the price is insane. But I love the card a lot. But it's like, what would I be happy you know to pay for this?

00:42:47.48
Russell Gibson
Are people starting to see the end of the tunnel and LeBron and saying, okay, let's start buying up his stuff?

00:42:47.55
Adz
It's a tough one, isn't it?

00:42:53.42
Adz
Stack it up. Just, just, just, yeah, start stocking up on your, your LeBrons.

00:42:54.49
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:42:58.78
Russell Gibson
But I think my thing on that card is, okay, you've just paid $200,000 for it. What are you hoping to get back on this? $300,000? $400,000? Who's paying that for that?

00:43:07.19
Adz
um reckon I reckon someone meant to hit 22,000 and accidentally hit the two an extra time.

00:43:12.25
Russell Gibson
I wonder if it was 200,000 and that was like the buyer's premium or something.

00:43:16.79
Adz
Maybe, maybe.

00:43:17.73
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:43:20.15
Adz
Could be a Wondershine purchase than just to code.

00:43:22.13
Russell Gibson
That's it.

00:43:26.13
Adz
It's a lot of money.

00:43:26.17
Russell Gibson
Now this is, hasn't got enough autographs and patches and i suppose it's a one-on-one though, isn't it?

00:43:30.22
Adz
That's true. It is a one of one.

00:43:34.81
Adz
Nice card though. You're right. Like you look in, he's got the gold yellow and yellow and gold trim to the border. I like, I like, I like the the design of the card quite a bit.

00:43:44.88
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Going from the old guys, let's talk about some of the new guys. We've got Coop versus Knapple this week. And I watched the replay. I didn't see it in live time.

00:43:55.67
Adz
The rookie showdown.

00:43:57.69
Russell Gibson
But it was a really, really good game. If you've got time to go back and watch it, even if you just watch the 15-minute highlights, guys, definitely take some time out of your week to check out this game. Well worth it.

00:44:09.18
Russell Gibson
My question to you from a hobby perspective, did you see the game or the highlights? Oh, okay. I was going say, well, you have to pick one to be Rookie of the Year, Cooper or Knoppel.

00:44:21.53
Russell Gibson
Who would you pick? Because

00:44:23.38
Adz
Who would I pick?

00:44:25.68
Russell Gibson
it's becoming a real conversation now.

00:44:25.78
Adz
Knoppel. Knoppel.

00:44:28.34
Russell Gibson
Okay. Yeah.

00:44:30.23
Adz
I think Charlotte's going to go better in the post. I think Charlotte's actually going to contend for going to make the playoffs because of having a lights out rookie.

00:44:43.03
Russell Gibson
yeah

00:44:44.06
Adz
And Dallas are going to be in the lottery because of no fault of Cooper's, but

00:44:49.30
Russell Gibson
So we are not a gambling show and I try my darndest not to talk about gambling. And this is not an ad by the way, but the odds on Cooper is a dollar and 17. So if you think con's going to win, he's currently at $4 and 15. So you might want to throw a nice little pineapple down onto that one.

00:45:07.02
Adz
I've already got a pineapple on my um my boy, Luka.

00:45:12.61
Russell Gibson
Luca is currently third in MVP voting at the moment.

00:45:16.36
Adz
It's all right. Longevity. The others will get injured.

00:45:18.77
Russell Gibson
That's right. It's an 82 game season for a reason, isn't it?

00:45:22.07
Adz
Let's see. Let's see. Although, speaking of which, Jokic came back.

00:45:26.46
Russell Gibson
You want to talk about Jokic?

00:45:28.07
Adz
He's back. he played. played.

00:45:31.03
Russell Gibson
Okay, let's talk about Jokic.

00:45:35.11
Adz
played well in his 24 minutes.

00:45:36.38
Russell Gibson
Why do you think he came back so soon?

00:45:39.35
Adz
I said this when it happened.

00:45:41.62
Russell Gibson
Yeah,

00:45:42.33
Adz
He wants, he's considering, you he still can miss one or two games

00:45:46.81
Russell Gibson
I think that is the only reason why he came back so soon.

00:45:50.29
Adz
on a minutes restriction.

00:45:51.89
Russell Gibson
It's so funny. Like we, yeah, I was trying to think of the right word for it.

00:45:54.01
Adz
For a guy that doesn't care about the game,

00:45:58.25
Russell Gibson
That guy is so lackadaisical in his presentation, but so driven and competitive at the same time. It's insane.

00:46:08.50
Adz
there was There's no way it isn't because he wanted to he wants to be in contention for MVP.

00:46:14.80
Russell Gibson
That's the only reason why.

00:46:17.63
Adz
Yep.

00:46:18.03
Russell Gibson
It's yeah.

00:46:18.93
Adz
Yep.

00:46:19.67
Russell Gibson
I mean, look, I, I love that competitive spirit as long as he doesn't hurt himself permanently and it doesn't make the injury worse. I'm, I actually think we've somehow swung the pendulum back too far where athletes play not enough.

00:46:33.08
Russell Gibson
And so, yeah, yeah, i me too.

00:46:34.18
Adz
I like it. I like it a lot. And Luca rolled his ankle in Cleveland. Everyone was really scared. And he came back and played against – that's Cleveland's fault.

00:46:40.70
Russell Gibson
Well, Okay, in a second, I'll defend you Laker fans for a second there.

00:46:43.10
Adz
but then

00:46:46.65
Russell Gibson
That's because they didn't have the court set up properly.

00:46:49.33
Adz
Cleveland's the only place in America that's still got that raised bit.

00:46:52.74
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:46:54.09
Adz
And Luca did luca did say, look, I'm sorry.

00:46:55.53
Russell Gibson
That's lousy.

00:46:56.73
Adz
I won't celebrate like that in Cleveland again.

00:47:00.08
Russell Gibson
How about they just put a...

00:47:00.88
Adz
It's my fault for goofing off. And i'm like, well, not really.

00:47:03.00
Russell Gibson
No, put a proper court up, boys. Come on.

00:47:04.86
Adz
Exactly. But yeah, he played against Washington and got a triple double in 18 minutes. That's yeah. Isn't that the fastest, the fastest triple double since Luca did it last time anyway.

00:47:12.38
Russell Gibson
The wizards are...

00:47:17.37
Adz
a

00:47:17.79
Russell Gibson
The wizards are rough, man. We got to go for a break. It's already that time already.

00:47:22.11
Adz
We do.

00:47:22.90
Russell Gibson
Thank you so much, Neon Cards, for your ongoing support. Go to neontradingcards.com. There you'll find a huge array of breaks. Soccer, NBA, MLB, F1, AFL, NRL, WWE, and also Marvel.

00:47:37.16
Russell Gibson
Neon are also on Whatnot. So go to Whatnot to find Neon for all of your breaks onto that. They are one of the three Australian repackers on Whatnot. And Neon Trading Cards are also a Topps and Fanatics direct breaking partner. So if you're looking for a legitimate breaker with fantastic partnerships, this is where you want to go to for that.

00:47:57.50
Russell Gibson
Now, big week as always at Neon. Topps Midnight is releasing. They'll be dropping breaks on that. They've also got Topps Chrome as always. And if you're an MLB fan, they've got MLB Museum.

00:48:10.68
Russell Gibson
and EPL for you soccer heads, EPL Chrome. So big, big week as always. Go to NeonTraderCards.com.

00:48:24.59
Russell Gibson
All righty, Ad, we're back, mate. How are you doing? We're into the final quarter.

00:48:28.98
Adz
We're there, we're there, it's crunch time.

00:48:31.54
Russell Gibson
So earlier in today's show, we did the Mount Rushmore and we had Maxi loosely on that. We probably dropped the ball on this, but that's okay. We can go back to Maxi here. Tyrese Maxi Gold, so true gold, number to 10, recently just sold for $18,300. It was BGS9, but that's okay.

00:48:52.92
Russell Gibson
How do you rate the sale of this card ad? Because I like Maxi.

00:48:59.03
Adz
You don't know if you like him that much?

00:49:03.42
Russell Gibson
I like Maxi a lot. I just think that until his situation changes with Philly, well, Paul George is he's out due to a drug suspension. Embiid is so up and down. But actually, I feel like his career is going to exponentially go up once they get rid of Embiid and also Paul George.

00:49:23.38
Russell Gibson
They build around him and Edgecombe. I think that's going to be a sick team. I think if you're a Philly fan, you've got so much to look forward to.

00:49:30.07
Adz
The future is bright. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:49:31.47
Russell Gibson
It's so good.

00:49:33.14
Adz
Maxi's Maxi's. But the question is how how long does that take to fizzle out?

00:49:36.25
Russell Gibson
It's just,

00:49:38.58
Adz
and

00:49:39.58
Russell Gibson
you have to regrade it. You have to put it into a PSA slab.

00:49:42.97
Adz
Yep. 100%. But probably worth the were at the risk.

00:49:48.60
Russell Gibson
If he explodes a hundred percent. Yeah. Look, I do like this purchase. I just think it's got a bit of risk involved with the, due to the, you know, him as a prospect and also the BGS slab.

00:49:54.71
Adz
yep

00:49:58.00
Russell Gibson
But yeah, I love it a lot.

00:49:59.90
Adz
Look, he's in my honourable mentions for for future Mount Rushmore potential. Hobby Mount Rushmore, of course. um So I think it would be very hypocritical of me to say it's not a smart purchase. I think this is good.

00:50:15.22
Russell Gibson
ah The next thing for us to talk about, and I've entitled this next part, Pac-Man crashing out on live stream when he was live this week trying to sell 10 case break of Topps Midnight. And he was doing it as a player break. So the Steph Curry spot alone was like $5,500 US. So we weren't talking about...

00:50:36.57
Russell Gibson
you know, small amounts of money, the break was selling very, very slowly. And so he was just getting more frustrated as time was going on. And he did the whole thing of, I'm losing money here and, you know, da, da, da, da.

00:50:49.19
Russell Gibson
And then he went on this sort of tirade when someone was in the comments telling him that they were broke. He didn't appreciate that. He sort of chastised them for that.

00:50:58.30
Adz
Wow.

00:50:59.00
Russell Gibson
um And then the next thing he pulled out was that these spots are so cheap, you just can't lose. And he didn't want to use the G word, which I believe was guaranteed, but he pulled out every other word sort of surrounding that.

00:51:09.05
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:11.71
Russell Gibson
So I think...

00:51:12.39
Adz
Cheers.

00:51:14.90
Russell Gibson
Look, I've got a lot to actually like say about this. I'll try and keep it to a minimum. I think we're seeing more and more breakers crash out live. And I think this is some of the risks of doing these live auctions is that they can end very quickly and you don't get the the yield back that you're that you're aiming to get.

00:51:28.95
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:31.42
Russell Gibson
And I think, you know, Pac-Man's the perfect example on this where he started out in the hobby and he was a hobbyist and his content was engaging and he was this young man that had, you know, lots of energy and he opened cards and he talked to you about the odds and all that type of stuff. But now he's gone into that other side and and I'm not saying it's the dirty side of the hobby or anything like that, but, you know, there is the business aspect to it. It it does take the fun away from it.

00:51:56.98
Adz
It does. It does.

00:51:57.82
Russell Gibson
a bit.

00:51:58.02
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:58.26
Russell Gibson
It can take it away quite a bit.

00:51:59.32
Adz
Yeah.

00:51:59.98
Russell Gibson
It can spoil your experience. And I can say that from experience, you know, and so you have to really, you know, balance it out and, and And being live and crashing out live, it it sucks hard.

00:52:11.63
Russell Gibson
And the other, my favorite probably streamer ever is Nepenthes and he does FC26 content and he crashed out so bad this week.

00:52:21.64
Russell Gibson
He just ended the feed. He didn't even say goodbye. So, you know, it it happens to people, you know, he's not the first and the last guy to crash out live.

00:52:24.60
Adz
Wow.

00:52:29.46
Russell Gibson
So,

00:52:30.30
Adz
Yeah, look, um maybe it's a, I don't know, the way you explain that to me, it just sounds like there's a big difference between like the quality, quantity over quality um is the sacrifice when you sort of, when it when it becomes more of a business than entertainment. and And the thing that I think that it keeps people engaged is the entertainment factor.

00:52:51.42
Adz
So yeah.

00:52:51.81
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:52:52.76
Adz
If you're going to turn on your your audience and start abusing them, they don't have to buy spots from you.

00:52:57.46
Russell Gibson
Well, I would actually say the funny thing about this was he's probably going to get more followers from it.

00:53:05.88
Adz
you but You might have more followers, but I i wouldn't be going in these breaks as a result.

00:53:06.08
Russell Gibson
Like

00:53:09.08
Russell Gibson
you can't, but you can't buy this level of clicks and and publicity, right?

00:53:12.43
Adz
Publicity, publicity. Yeah.

00:53:14.02
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:53:14.46
Adz
Yeah. It's true.

00:53:15.03
Russell Gibson
So despite all of that, like, I think, you know, most people would probably give him a pass and he generally seems like a nice guy.

00:53:15.31
Adz
True.

00:53:22.14
Adz
true

00:53:23.99
Russell Gibson
All right. So we're going to try and tie these next two in together. So this is from at tops on, on Twitter, just pulled the one of one Victor women, you're on super factor autograph.

00:53:35.19
Russell Gibson
has been pulled. So what I want to do is try and comp this to the next card. And the next card is the Sapphire Cooper flag, one of one. And so essentially this product is built around these sort of cracked ice cards. well let me rephrase that. They're built around this Sapphire parallel.

00:53:55.58
Russell Gibson
And if you're thinking in the Panini terms, it's like a pink cracked ice. And so the in my opinion, the biggest card from the product has been pulled, which is the Cooper flag one of one.

00:54:07.06
Russell Gibson
My question to you, Ad, is which one do you like better?

00:54:07.43
Adz
Yeah.

00:54:11.93
Russell Gibson
do you like the super fractal one of one, which is like the gold and with the the mosaic type print on it?

00:54:16.15
Adz
The gold.

00:54:20.22
Russell Gibson
Or do you like this Cooper flag, Sapphire?

00:54:23.20
Adz
I'll take the Wendy. I'll take the Wendy. I don't like the Sapphire.

00:54:25.63
Russell Gibson
too.

00:54:25.95
Adz
I don't like the Sapphire as a look.

00:54:27.19
Russell Gibson
Yeah, it's, see, and this is kind of like my point where I'm leaning on to next. Why didn't they build a product around like the super factor golds instead of making a product called Sapphire?

00:54:41.34
Russell Gibson
I think that's that's a very risky, like traditionally pink isn't a highly coveted and collected card.

00:54:48.76
Adz
Yeah, but...

00:54:50.68
Russell Gibson
So for example, the pink fast break, that's always been a cheaper parallel.

00:54:55.54
Adz
It's interesting you call it the sapphire because the sapphire is... like I associate the colour blue, which is interesting. like I don't associate pink.

00:55:07.13
Adz
I'm like... and And remember the one of ones going back 10 years ago, the one of one was a blue, a light blue, but...

00:55:11.93
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:55:15.86
Adz
It was a unique color, but you've got to give it – it's got to be unique. And I'm sorry, but that sapphire, that pink look, just looks like a random other parallel.

00:55:27.26
Russell Gibson
Yeah. It's ah it's a very unusual choice for a one of one.

00:55:31.29
Adz
Yeah. i don just like i

00:55:35.58
Russell Gibson
i

00:55:36.71
Adz
i'm trying to I'm trying to see why they would have gone with it, and I can't.

00:55:40.60
Russell Gibson
So i actually wonder if it's also to do with copyright. So they can't do everything in the same configuration that Prism did. Sorry, Panini did because then...

00:55:48.12
Adz
Is the gold still to 10?

00:55:50.39
Russell Gibson
No, it's not. It's to 50 now in Topps, which I hate, by the way. i hate that so much. Gold is to 10.

00:55:59.06
Adz
There are some things that you just shouldn't be able to copyright. Do you know what i mean?

00:56:02.14
Russell Gibson
That's right. Like flags. How do people get to copyright flags? That's outrageous.

00:56:15.57
Russell Gibson
right, I'm going to change up the run sheet because actually I want to do this next and make sure that we cover this because I want to give some shout out to Tyson Beck.

00:56:22.84
Adz
Good. That was going to be, when we were talking about Jokic, I feel like we we we we lost our window.

00:56:27.03
Russell Gibson
Drop the ball again.

00:56:28.73
Adz
But that's okay.

00:56:28.94
Russell Gibson
That's okay. Tyson Beck has released this week the Nicola Jokic Game Warned Collection. So for you guys that don't know who Tyson is, he's an Australian...

00:56:41.24
Russell Gibson
Well, he's a card manufacturer now, isn't he really?

00:56:43.41
Adz
Here's a card, Magda. He's an Australian artist.

00:56:46.01
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Graphic artist and

00:56:46.46
Adz
Um, graphic artist that has has made a name for himself in the hobby, uh, working for a variety of vast NBA teams over the years doing artwork for them and, and a number of things.

00:56:50.72
Russell Gibson
yeah.

00:56:58.04
Russell Gibson
He started off doing autographs on card designs and then athletes autographing them and he's believed they should always be on card and now he's putting in memorabilia and they should always be game worn.

00:57:02.52
Adz
Yeah. Yeah.

00:57:06.94
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:10.41
Russell Gibson
So whatever you're getting from Tyson is a hundred percent legit. He has done this thing called the randomizer, which I don't fully, I tried to read it and understand it. I've reached out to Tyson. Hopefully he'll get back to us soon.

00:57:23.38
Russell Gibson
I want to take this one step further though. So this is what I'd be proposing to Tyson. If I spoke to him, do like a tops now type release where you make a really nice card.

00:57:36.02
Russell Gibson
You sell them online and just say there's 10,000 of them that sell. Everyone gets one card. And then within that, randomization, there's like a a really, really nice patch autograph or an autograph card.

00:57:50.62
Russell Gibson
So people can get in at like say a five or a $10 price point with the chance of getting a card.

00:57:54.84
Adz
Yeah.

00:57:56.58
Russell Gibson
Because I think the way that Tyson prices is really, really fair, but also to, I think the opportunity to get into these cards for say five or 10 Aussie dollars, I think that will be like fantastic.

00:58:01.53
Adz
Yeah.

00:58:09.27
Adz
Yeah. Like that'd be fire.

00:58:10.21
Russell Gibson
There's my unsolicited, um very

00:58:13.08
Adz
I like it.

00:58:13.66
Russell Gibson
request to Tyson.

00:58:15.48
Adz
I like it. Well, maybe you can get Tyson back on the show and have ah a bit of a chat because, um, Tell you what, all jokes aside, these Joker cards are are amazing.

00:58:25.27
Russell Gibson
Would you buy one?

00:58:26.55
Adz
um Yeah, yeah.

00:58:27.91
Russell Gibson
Yep.

00:58:28.63
Adz
the The actual Joker one, I'm looking at it on the screen at the moment at the autograph. I'm like, oh, they are some... Yeah, some nice some nice drops there from Tyson. And you're right, I think Tyson could capitalise on a Tops Now type release with, because it's his artwork that is really cool.

00:58:48.13
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

00:58:48.44
Adz
ah Like some of his drawings are phenomenal, or most of his work is phenomenal. So um regardless of the autograph, I think getting a piece of, yeah, being able to produce some more Tyson Beck exclusive stuff.

00:59:02.04
Adz
Could be a big next step. But, um yeah, awesome. Going from strength to strength.

00:59:07.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah, he's killing

00:59:07.54
Adz
um Every release is is something bigger. He's got some of the biggest names in the in the world. So, yeah, great job. Great job from Tyson.

00:59:17.82
Russell Gibson
All right, we'll see how we go to get through these next three cards. All three of them. There's a lot of one-of-ones this week. We've got an Embiid, an SGA, and a Booker. So the Embiid recently just sold for $144,000. one-of-one rookie horizontal logoman

00:59:36.46
Russell Gibson
on-car autograph BGS 8.5 autograph 10. Look, I'm, I'm so stuck on Embiid. I think that his hobby value is actually too low for the talent and him having an MVP.

00:59:53.72
Russell Gibson
But I think my concerns for him is that he just doesn't have the hobby love and he's such an injury risk that, yeah, it's, he's just such a tough one, man.

01:00:00.76
Adz
I don't think he ever will have the hobby love anyway.

01:00:04.47
Russell Gibson
So look,

01:00:04.92
Adz
I think, I think the ship sailed. I'm like, I'm going to go back to the Yarnus thing. I'm like, it's been too long now.

01:00:11.20
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:00:12.34
Adz
So regardless, if you turn things around, don't think that changes his hobby love.

01:00:15.97
Russell Gibson
Yeah. Now on the flip side, on the next card, we've got we've got the SGA Donruss Optic Black 1 of 1 with the on-card autograph, PSA 9.

01:00:29.72
Russell Gibson
This sold for $90,000. And so I find this challenging because this is like a second or a third tier hobby product.

01:00:39.93
Adz
Yeah, yeah. And it's fetching that kind of price.

01:00:41.69
Russell Gibson
selling for $90,000. So maybe actually what the story is here is just how hot SGA is right now. And so do you think this is the top and you start selling out all your stuff or are you like, this is just the beginning and, you know, we should start buying it all up. I'm, I got to tell you, I'm sort of reluctant or thinking to sell some of my SGA stuff.

01:01:06.74
Adz
Yeah, I think you you need to know where this

01:01:11.83
Adz
where the bubble is at its peak. Because I think this is a rebound growth stage. Like it's not the it's so overhyped, but I don't think it can go a lot higher.

01:01:24.98
Adz
But I've thought that before, so.

01:01:26.42
Russell Gibson
I was going to say, we've said that before, though, when his silvers were at $500, right? They were like, ugh.

01:01:30.26
Adz
Yeah, but um'm I'm talking about the the player's journey in comparison to their value. So what does SGA need to do? Does he need to go back-to-back MVPs and championships? does that Does that put him into the stratosphere? What happens if the Thunder go out in the first round and he doesn't win the MVP? Yeah.

01:01:48.60
Russell Gibson
So I think he has to get to four championships because then he's on par with Steph. And then that becomes a very interesting conversation.

01:01:55.37
Adz
Discussion. Okay. So he's a long way off that.

01:01:56.89
Russell Gibson
Very interesting conversation.

01:01:58.50
Adz
And every year he doesn't do it.

01:01:59.45
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:00.22
Adz
It's scarier. Yeah. Fair enough.

01:02:01.30
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:02.30
Adz
Fair. And number three, this is, you know, the funny thing about all these one of ones, it's just like most of the product these days. There's that many one of one products in one product.

01:02:14.14
Adz
All of these one of ones in one show, we could just show one, one of one, but no, there's more one of ones.

01:02:19.51
Russell Gibson
Yeah, you're using the word one too much and my head's hurting a bit, Ad.

01:02:22.84
Adz
Well, that's that's what happens when I get a checklist and I just say there's a one of one and a one of one and a one of one. And oh, look, there's 18 one of ones.

01:02:31.00
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:02:31.31
Adz
Doesn't mean there's sort of one of 18s?

01:02:37.18
Russell Gibson
I don't know. if youre You're still confusing me. Can we just talk about cards, please?

01:02:40.73
Adz
Sure, there's another one of one to talk about.

01:02:43.62
Russell Gibson
Devin Booker.

01:02:47.26
Russell Gibson
From Prism, black one of one, PSA 8, autograph 10. This sold for $12,600. I'm a little bit sad about this one. I think Booker has got so much talent. The Suns are just terrible.

01:02:59.74
Russell Gibson
I think he's going to re-up in Phoenix and be there for a really long time, which probably means he won't be competing for a championship anytime soon. Look...

01:03:10.21
Adz
I don't know, if you ask some Phoenix fans, they're getting a bit hopeful this season. they're They're still in they're they're in the seventh seed at the moment.

01:03:15.38
Russell Gibson
i think the

01:03:18.30
Russell Gibson
Look, they're competitive. i just don't think they're going to win a championship.

01:03:21.75
Adz
No, I definitely don't think they're going win championship.

01:03:24.25
Russell Gibson
Like, I think Houston has got a better chance to win than Phoenix does. And I'm directly saying that because of Karen Durant.

01:03:34.26
Adz
Yeah, 100%.

01:03:35.19
Russell Gibson
All right. Buy, hold, sell at 12,600. That's the last question I've got for you today, mate.

01:03:41.05
Adz
Buy, hold, sell at 12 and a half thousand.

01:03:43.52
Russell Gibson
Hmm.

01:03:46.25
Adz
I'd probably sell it. I don't want to hold Booker. I don't think in the, in the, in the landscape of the entirety of NBA history, I think he's, is, is a blip on the map. Unfortunately, I think he's a good player, but I just don't think hobby wise there's enough relevance there.

01:04:00.98
Russell Gibson
I'm selling the Embiid, I'm selling the SGA, and I'm buying the Booker.

01:04:05.64
Adz
You're buying the booker.

01:04:05.66
Russell Gibson
And, yeah.

01:04:06.56
Adz
I'll sell you the booker. I'm selling the SGA. I'm selling the booker and i wouldn't have even bought the Embiid.

01:04:12.46
Russell Gibson
Oh, wait, hang on a second. Maybe I'm selling the Booker too. You can buy a Jordan or a lebo but LeBron order for this, can't you?

01:04:19.74
Adz
Yeah, easy. But you could, I mean, yeah, I know. I wouldn't. If you're going actually, if those three, if I was going to buy anyone, it's the booker.

01:04:31.16
Adz
But I'm probably not buying it.

01:04:32.60
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:33.59
Adz
Anyway.

01:04:34.84
Russell Gibson
Thank you. Central Coast radio. Thank you to all our podcast listeners. Thank you everyone for chatting to us on socials this week. It's been a, been a fun week.

01:04:42.54
Adz
It's been good. It's been awesome.

01:04:43.53
Russell Gibson
Yeah.

01:04:44.43
Adz
um Yeah, thanks to everybody on YouTube that's been um subscribing and and and following and and liking the videos. We really do appreciate it.

01:04:55.67
Russell Gibson
Thank you, Adam.

01:04:55.76
Adz
I'll see you all. Thank you, Russell. i will um I will see you next week when we've got a big guest.

01:04:58.30
Russell Gibson
Welcome.

01:05:03.35
Russell Gibson
Yes, fingers crossed.

01:05:05.38
Adz
Hopefully. I'll see you then.