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💥 HOBBY EARTHQUAKE: Topps Chrome’s Wild New Anti-Scalper Strategy, The Massive PSA Backlog, & Chasing "Alter Ego" Inserts! 🏀
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The hobby is moving at breakneck speed right now, and the latest wave of industry shakeups has collectors, flippers, and investors completely rethinking their strategies. From unexpected manufacturer pivots to massive shifts in the grading landscape, here is your breakdown of the biggest headlines hitting the card market this week.
🛑 The End of Shrink Wrap? Topps Breaks the Seal
In a massive, controversial move to protect retail collectors from immediate online flipping, Topps announced it is officially testing unsealed box shipments. Starting with the highly anticipated Topps Chrome Update Basketball Mega Boxes, product will be distributed without the traditional factory plastic wrap. The goal? Hurt the secondary resale value for scalpers who instantly list sealed wax on eBay at a premium, ensuring more product actually gets ripped by true collectors at suggested retail price.
🧬 Chasing "Alter Egos" & Ultra-Modern Heat
Speaking of Topps Chrome Update, the checklist is absolutely loaded. The community is buzzing over the debut of the Alter Egos SSPs—a gorgeous, comic-book-inspired 10-card insert set that reimagines top NBA superstars with super-powered personas. Collectors are heavily hunting the Alter Ego variations and high-end refractors of young cornerstone talents like:
- Anthony Edwards
- LaMelo Ball
- Jonathan Kuminga
👑 The Staples: Steph Curry & Michael Jordan
While the young guns are drawing massive eye candy, the blue-chip market remains anchored by the goats. Steph Curry’s cards continue to show immense market stability, especially with new iconic insert highlights tracking his historic career moments. Meanwhile, Michael Jordan continues to dominate high-end alternative asset discussions, as vintage MJ grails and Upper Deck legacy autograph inserts keep his market cap at an untouchable tier.
⏱️ PSA Backlog & Grading Strategy Shift
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All righty, guys. Welcome to this week's
show. Thank you so much everybody for
tuning in. This week, we are going to
talk about Topps Chrome update and an
insert set that's actually worth
collecting.
We are going to talk about some other
NBA related news. We've got a story
coming out about Jonathan Kaminga.
We're going to talk about LaMelo Ball,
Anthony Edwards. We're going to talk a
little bit more MJ PSA backlog tracker
update and a massive sale from Golden's
auction.
Kicking off this week though, we're
going to talk about 2526 Tops Chrome
update, why that this product matters,
why that they do update at all,
and just a little bit of a deep dive
into what we should be seeing from this
particular product, and also I've
actually found something that I think is
genuinely worth collecting. So, if
you're an insert set collector like
myself and you also like sets that have
fantastic artwork, stick around cuz
we're going to talk all about that.
So, I think the first thing just to
briefly outline is why does tops chrome
basketball matter? And this is directly
from the set.
The way I think about this is if you're
an old school NBA hoops collector,
this is like season two.
This is like series 2 and where they
update the players that have been
traded, who have been moved around,
either they've been cut and then
resigned. It will also generally have
updated photographs of the rookie cards.
And just in general, it'll just clean up
anything that needs to be cleaned up,
you know, any errors that they made in
the first one. So, that's a really good
thing. I think in the current
environment, too, where people are so
thirsty for product, it also gives tops
an opportunity just to get more product
out into the environment. And so, we're
going to talk a little bit about that
more later on in the show, but that's
something that definitely needs to
happen in the current climate.
The other thing that Topps have done in
this particular product, they've they're
going to be releasing their rookie debut
patch autographs. Each card pairs an
authenticated patch worn during an
player's NBA debut with an oncard
autograph, creating some of the most
desirable modern rookie cards in the
hobby. I think this is a fantastic
initiative by Topps and it's also
something that's
directly oppositional to what Panini was
doing where they went completely away
from playerworn material. And I think
most collectors, let me rephrase that,
all collectors would prefer to have
player worn, gameworn material than just
some napkin patch that was taken out of
something and has never been touched by
an NBA player. So, combined with chrome
signature refractors, colorful
parallels, and premium finish, tops,
chrome updates, basketball offers
collectors another exciting way to
collect the NBA season. Look, I think at
this point, everyone is just frothing
for more product. It just seems so hard
for people to get their hands onto
product at the moment. So, to be able to
see something like this coming out now,
it's just absolutely it's just cool.
It's just really good.
The two cards I did want to talk about
though is this one here, the alter egos.
This 10 card set transforms each player
into a dynamic illustrated superpowered
persona blending onc court identity with
graphic novel style. And I think that
It's really good to see them do original
content like this because I think some
of the stuff they're releasing earlier,
there was that downtown ripoff
and it just didn't seem to have the
originality that was needed throughout
their insert sets. Look, there was some
nice inserts along the way, but I think
this for me is the best one that's been
released so far. And I think they've
just absolutely nailed this on the head.
I think the artwork is absolutely
fantastic. I think the people who are
actually in the checklist are just
absolute all bangers and that's what you
want with a small checklist,
something that you can actually get
around and collect. You don't want a lot
of filler into it. And also too, I love
how they've played into the players
nicknames and then brought that out into
the artwork. So, Slim Reaper for Kevin
Durant. We got the King for LeBron
James. And I'm sure that this will
absolutely appeal to his ego. You can
see on the LeBron James one here. This
is actually the gold vinyl one of one.
There'll be also just regular parallels
of this too. We got here SGA
as a ninja. Kind of cool on that one
there. I'm sure there's going to be
heaps of gags around that being redrawn
him flopping.
Cooper flag with the main event spelled
as in the city of Maine.
Jamarant
and they've leaned into a stunt show
themed card onto that one there.
Conanapple with a con air/hornets
theme on that one there.
The total checklist is LeBron James,
Cooper Flack, Steph Curry, Wambi,
Conanapple, Nicole Yokic, Kevin Durant,
SGA, Jamaran, and also James Harden,
which I think for me is a little bit of
a funny one.
I think Anthony Edwards probably would
have been better at this point,
but that's my biggest complaint
out of this list. So, you know, it's
really nothing. The other one they
probably could have done that would have
gone down really well, particularly
after they won the championship, was
Jaylen Brunson. I think that would have
been an absolute banger.
But yeah, you know,
if that's the biggest complaint I've got
about this, it's no stress at all. So,
when I was doing a bit of a search for
this, I actually found this here. So,
this is from 2025 Tops Chrome update.
This is obviously not a basketball
thing, but this is where they've got the
influence for this particular alter ego
set to come from. And actually really
interestingly
the artwork is by Michael Blasovich.
And actually the whole idea behind his
artwork is a philanthropic mission where
he was trying to do pictures for people.
They would sell it at auctions. They
would sell it at charity events and
they'll bring it through. So then his
artwork's now being brought into Topps
products which I love that type of
stuff. That's like a super cool thing.
So they've this has done really well in
a different set and they've brought that
across to NBA. So that's a really cool
origin story on that one there.
The other thing to point out too is
these cards here, the Minions cards. Now
these are allegedly case hits and SSPs.
I am going to hold my breath on how well
that these particular
cards do. I'm not super high on this.
I'm not super low on it. I just think
these are something cool that they've
done, but
it's not particularly for me,
particularly if they go for hundreds, if
not thousands of dollars. You know, if
that is the case, I am I'm not touching
that with a with a 10-ft pole. I'm just
not touching it. So, however, I know
that some people will
go after these and they'll go after them
hard. And if that's what you're into,
yeah, I'm super super happy for you. I
think that I would be looking to
purchase some of these depending on what
the population count is. Like if they
are a true SSP of say a population
between 10 and 20, yeah, I think that
will be super collectible and also a
long-term hold. If they are in the
hundreds or the thousands and they're,
you know, allegedly a case hit,
for me, that's not particularly
interesting. And yeah, I'm just going to
stay away from it. In terms of pricing
on this product, it's still very very
early days, so this could go up, it
could go down.
I suspect with with Chrome, though, this
is only going to go up.
Breakers Delight is selling for $5,000 a
box. This is from our friends at
mintlectibles.com.au.
Not a sponsored or paid ad. This is just
some information I found online. The
pre-order box on the Topschrome update
is 3,000.
Tops Chrome hobby box is 1,300 and the
value box is 110. So I've been reading a
bit online about this, you know,
recently what Topps is doing with the
pricing and essentially they're just
removing out the middleman in terms of
scalping
and just putting the price right to what
the secondary market price would be. I I
get the feeling that's what we're seeing
here. And so,
you know, we've seen higher from Panini,
we've seen lower from Panini. It it
definitely depended on the cycle, the
rookies that were in the product and all
that type of stuff. So, you know, I'm
not going to throw shade at this. We
have seen the products go down after
release date. So, that's something if
you feel confident in waiting for.
I've read online that that allocation
off the tops website was sold out not
instantly but it did get sold out and
that there's still some product
available say for example at Target but
again that's all sold out also too. So
yeah, you just have to you know really
wait and see what what's going to happen
with that.
I think we can move on. I think we've
we've done what we wanted to do into
that space there.
Let's go to some NBA rumors. Jonathan
Kaminga
declined his player option to become a
free agent. My assumption was he had a
fantastic
run with the Hawks and he would resign
with them, but that is not what the news
that's currently being reported. So on
the Shump Street podcast, he had Sham
Shirania on and Shumpet accidentally
slipped and said that Kaminga is signed
with the Lakers. Almost instantly,
Sham smiled and said that deal's not
done yet. However, it did seem as though
he knew something that we all didn't. So
allegedly, Kaminga is going to be going
with the Lakers.
I think if this does happen,
that is going to be huge for Kaminga. I
mean, this guy has been absolutely
eviscerated
in the hobby the last couple of years.
His value is just down so low.
So, I would love to see this guy get
some of his value back. And I think
going to LA is exactly what he needs.
Honestly, I I think this is super cool.
I just found a comp for 400 and then I
looked back. It was 2022. I had to
really go back and double check that.
All right, here we go.
One recently sold for $80 USD, 52 USD,
$69.99 USD,
$109 USD. So there is a very, very big
variation on these cards at the moment.
120 USD,
80. All right, so let's just say he's
going from anywhere between 50 and $100.
The the variation at the moment is is
crazy. 50. The next sale before that is
102.
We got a silver wave here for $36.
Yeah, look, I I love this a lot. And I
think that if we go and look at the
the Lakers depth chart here
and what that will give them, that will
give them Luca Donic, Austin Reeves,
Walker Kesler, who went on to Twitter
today and said that he'll walk through a
wall for this team. So, I think he's
ready to go to war for this team. Jake
Lavaria is the current starting power
forward. So, I think Kaminga would be a
fantastic addition here and that's what
this team needs. It just needs a little
bit of athleticism and needs somebody
that can run the floor, can be a running
mate for Luca. Luca loves setting people
up. I mean, we all know that Luca can
score, but he's also an insane playmaker
and he will make sure that other people
get their shots. I think he'll fit right
into that team. And in fact, that will
give that team a little bit of extra
life.
Z Williams also recently signed with
them, too. So, I would actually get the
feeling that Z would start over Jake
Lavaria. If Kaminga goes there, though,
that's a no-brainer. Kaminga will
absolutely be starting there. Look, I
think Kaminga is a buy at the moment.
It's very variable. So, we talked about
that a little bit already, but if you're
getting him for 50 to 75 USD, I think
that's a really, really good pickup
for Kaminga, particularly if he signs
with LA, that's just an absolute home
run.
All righty, some more NBA news. And I
just don't think we're talking about
this enough, so we're going to be
talking about it a little bit more. We
have got here a beautiful photograph of
these two guys together looking like
they're having an absolute ball
together. It is LaMelo Ball and Anthony
Edwards.
This is going to be an absolute sick
duo. This is going to be my League Pass
team straight away. Like that's it. I'm
watching the Wolves every day this
season. I cannot wait to see how this
team plays out. Let's just check some
prices. I want to see what's happening
with Anthony Edwards. I want to see
what's happening with LaMelo. LaMelo has
to be up. Like there is just I will be
shocked. Let's just look at the last
three months just to get a bit better of
an idea.
So for Anthony Edwards, the population
on his card is 2,200.
The last 3 months he's up 3.3%.
And the last month he's actually down
5%. That's super interesting to me. I
did not expect that.
LaMelo Ball has to be up.
Okay, he's down 1% the last month and
the last 3 months he's up quite a bit.
He's up 14%. So in the last 3 months he
was all the way down to 282. He peaked
very very recently at 670 and he's back
down to 455 now. Look, I think this is
actually a very very safe buy at the
moment.
Check out the population on that too.
Just 445.
When you see a population of 2,000 plus
on Edwards and then just a population of
that of 40 445 on that.
Yeah, I really like that a lot actually.
LaMelo Edwards. LaMelo Edwards. LaMelo
Ball. I'm putting him down as an A+ buy
at the moment. I think the price is good
at 445.
The the price is good at 455 and the
population at 445 is 10 out of 10. I
love that a lot.
Last week we did a Michael Jordan story
about Jordan signing some sealed packets
and those being insert into Goodwin's
champs as a redemption. And now this
week, Upper Deck is back with some more
Jordan related news. This is from
Twitter at Upper Deck Sports. History is
going on the block. In partnership with
eBay, Upper Deck is proud to present a
once in a generation live auction
featuring a signed and sealed 1986 1987
Fleer basketball hobby box autographed
by Marco Jordan. One of the most iconic
products in trading card history. Signed
by the greatest to ever play the game.
This isn't just a hobby box. It's a
piece of basketball legacy. Auction
begins on the 30th of June.
Learn more. Click the link here.
And he has inscribed it with his
beautiful autograph, Rookie Card Box,
one of one. That's insane. 10% of the
total auction proceeds will be donated
to the Boys and Girls Club of America.
Auction will run until the 9th of
August. So, that is a very, very long
run time on that. But that is
amazing.
I think the question after that then too
is do you rip the box or do you just
leave it as is? I think you have to
leave it, don't you?
All righty. While we're talking about
insane things being autographed, I know
this is not basketball card related, but
this is something that is not going to
happen very often, and also I'm not
going to overdo it. So, this is from
Instagram Jeremy Padawir. Last week, I
might have purchased the $3.6 $6 million
broadside declaration of independence
offered on golden auctions following the
extremely good fortune of the guy that
had the 1986 Fleer PSA 9 Jordan signed.
I did the same
large signature across the bottom. PSA
graded a very good EX4 autograph 9. This
is the highest grade ever given to a
broadside copy of the Declaration of
Independence. I estimate the new value
after signature to be amplified to about
$35,000x.
It's now roughly a $40 trillion item.
I'll be bringing this to Fanatics Fest
later this week. See you there. Let's
go. [laughter]
I think this guy is a little bit
unhinged, but at the same time, too.
That's insane.
That is super super cool.
I mean, good on this guy. Like if you're
into history and you're into basketball
and you're into Michael Jordan the GOAT
and you can afford all of this, like go
nuts, man. If this what makes you happy,
it makes me so happy to see you this
happy. Do you know what I mean? Like
that's super cool.
All righty. Earlier in the show, we were
talking about pricing on TOPS related
products, and this is something that's
going around the hobby now at the
moment. Lots of different outlets have
reported on, but this is the sports
cards nonsense story. And basically what
they're talking about is how Topps are
trying to stop flippers from
taking sealed product and then reselling
it onto the aftermarket. So what they're
doing now is if it's coming directly
from Tops, the box will be cut so that
the seal is partially removed. I don't
believe they're removing the entire seal
from it, just enough to break the seal.
And so I think they're doing this with
good intentions. And when I say good
intentions, I think they're doing this
so that
people then can't take those boxes and
put them away and flip them for a profit
in the future. tops are very concerned
or it's on their radar about the total
cost of what people are spending on
boxes and then what they're getting back
and so this is their attempt at doing
that. What my concern is is actually
this is not going to stop the problem
and people will still sell them on the
resale market. But what this now does is
lets people open up the boxes,
potentially search for packets,
get out the good cards from the boxes,
combine two boxes in together, and then
sell that back on as a sealed box
because that will be the the new norm
that hobby collectors will be
experiencing. And so the same thing will
be done for breakers.
Allegedly, TOPS don't want retail to be
broken. They want retail to be ripped. I
personally agree with that sentiment.
But again, all I think that's going to
happen is breakers now have open boxes
and then the potential is there for the
packs to be manipulated. So I actually
don't believe in the greater good for
the hobby. This is a step forward in all
eventuality. What I suspect is going to
happen is going to have so many problems
associated with this. They won't do this
again. It'll be just like a one-off sort
of thing. My other comment about this
too, and this is a very strongly held
belief I have about this, is once you
sell a product, it's no longer yours to
own. So what somebody does with it
afterwards is completely out of your
hand. So, if the value of a sealed box
goes up after you sell it at a retail
price, I actually don't think you should
be sad for people. Like, this is a way
that people
roll money back into the hobby. It's a
way that people do engage with the
hobby. And
not all scalping is healthy for the
hobby. I know that. I understand that.
But flipping
people rolling around money in the hobby
is a good thing. And actually, we do
need that and we need it at all
different price points. Not everybody
can afford a $1,000 box, but maybe they
could be investing in a $100 boxes or
the like. So,
it's just a little bit for me
of a micromanagement situation that
actually might not solve any problems
and actually might makes things worse.
That's my sort of gut feeling about
this. But
overall, you have to kind of give it to
Tops.
My preference for this of how this will
play out though is that this is done in
hobby shops. And what I mean by this is
this, and Rob from Burbank was talking
about this. You have two prices on the
menu for the same product. One is sealed
and you take it away and it's say $200.
I will open the seal for you now and you
rip it in store and you have that
instore experience. The price is $110 or
whatever the pricing works out to be.
But I think that's a much better system
of doing it so that
there isn't that potential for people to
manipulate the boxes on the back end. I
think that's what really should be done
in that space.
Moving on to our next story here. This
is from at PSA card
and the ultimate cell
media spin here. Without sacrificing
quality,
our current backlog now stands at 11
million cards as we continue to
accelerate our output. July's grading
projections are on track to surpass
June's record pace. Learn more about
this update with the PSA backlog
tracker.
Click here. The current backlog is at 11
million and the value tiers will reopen
at 5 million. So, we still got about six
more million cards to get through.
And I think this is the perfect time now
to go onto gem raid.
So, in one week alone, they've created
basically, let's just call it half a
million cards, which is actually down
from the previous week.
So, I mean, when you say it like that,
it's only
without adding any extra cards, which we
know more cards will be added into it. I
mean, that's only 12 weeks, isn't it?
That's nuts, isn't it? That they're
doing 492,000 cards a week.
I actually contacted Ryan recently to
ask him about
other grading companies and their
numbers post the shutdown with PSA.
But basically he was saying that his
numbers only encapsulate the cards that
have been graded. It's not about the
cards that have been submitted. So it's
a little bit too early to see that. But
I think pretty shortly we'll be able to
I'll be able to sit down and look
through it and just sort of go through
to see if there is any
changes in the trends for that because I
think that's something absolutely to
keep an eye on what's happening at the
moment in the grading world.
I mean, yeah,
it's just that's just insane, isn't it?
This one here from July the 13th.
618,000 cards graded last week.
And to finish off this week's show, we
have got a little bit of card porn. This
comes from Golden Co. and one of my
personal favorites, Panini Eminence. The
absolute most left on product in the
hobby. Final price on this 2425 Panini
eminence jumbo patch autographs Stephen
Curry signed patch card 161,040.
Beautiful, beautiful card on this one
here on card autograph. Look at that
fantastic threecolored patch
of the bridge on that there.
I think the photograph of that actually
fits in really nicely onto the card,
but I personally would have preferred
him doing a jump shot, but at the same
time, I mean, that's really nitpicking,
isn't it? That's an absolutely beautiful
card. Thank you so much for everybody
who has tuned in today. I really
appreciate you all jumping in. I hope
you've enjoyed this week's show.
We will catch you next week.
Hopefully, I'll have a guest to come on
this week. I wasn't organized enough to
get someone to come on. So, I do
apologize you stuck with me,
but we will keep rolling.
Happy collecting, guys, and we'll see
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Collectibles. People will realize Panini
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Oh man, what do I think you were talking
about with that?
I might even DM you, man, just to
clarify on that. I can patch it in later
on in the show.