🎬 SPACE JAM NOSTALGIA, THE PSA ALTERNATIVES, & THE SECOND APRON SALARY SHED! 🏀

This week on You Can’t Comp This, we are covering everything from iconic 90s pop-culture grail sets to the cold, hard financial realities reshaping both the NBA and the sports card market!

Inside This Episode:

• 🐰 Space Jam Nostalgia Hits the Hobby: Breaking down the resurgence and market demand for the iconic 1996 Upper Deck Michael Jordan Space Jam set. Is this the ultimate 90s pop-culture cross-over insert set?
• 📦 Life After PSA — Where Are You Submitting? With PSA's recent service tier pauses and backlogs, collectors are jumping ship. We explore SGC, Beckett (BGS), CGC, and TAG—where should you actually send your slabs right now?
• 🚨 Lu Dort Traded & The NBA's Second Apron Reality: The Oklahoma City Thunder made a massive financial move, sending defensive centerpiece Lu Dort to Atlanta in a multi-team deal. Why NBA franchises are forcing major roster moves strictly to avoid the dreaded second apron tax threshold!
• 📊 Tim Duncan Deep-Dive: Breaking down the big fundamental's market cap, underrated 90s rookie inserts, and long-term investment viability.
• 📈 The Multiplier Effect (Karl Malone PSA 9 vs. PSA 10): A detailed breakdown of "The Mailman's" card prices—how massive is the price gap between a PSA 9 and a PSA 10 gem mint on vintage and junk wax era staples?

🎙️ Listen now on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify!

Transcript

Welcome everybody to this week's show.

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This is the You Can't Comp This NBA Trading Card podcast. I am your host Russell Gibson and we are live and it is

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a cold and chilly Thursday night in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. We've had a lot more international listeners

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the last couple of weeks. So, welcome everybody from overseas. Thank you so much for tuning in. If you're in America, it'll be nice and warm over there. So, I hope you're enjoying your

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summer. The World Cup's just finished, so I think the NBA news cycle is going to be coming round a little bit more. In particular, the whole league is waiting

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for LeBron James to make his decision and his announcement. Allegedly or reportedly, Adam Silva is actually

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stopping the schedule from being released until LeBron makes his decision. So I think in very typical sort of LeBron James fashion, he is

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holding the league hostage while he dillydally around and makes his decision as slow as he can. When that decision does get made, we are going to have Kyle

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Legacy come on and we're going to do a full breakdown in the scer mentality. So I'm really looking forward to that happening obviously for LeBron James, but also to catch up with Legacy again.

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We're going to start off with a little bit of PSA news. In the last live feed we did the backlog that is still currently the backlog is at 11 million

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cards still and the value ti will reopen back at 5 million. So we've still got 6 million cards to get through here. This

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is from card purchaser. If you don't follow this gentleman on Twitter absolutely give him a follow. He's constantly just putting out card related

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chatter etc etc. Where is everyone sending their cards to get graded these days? Still PSA. Heaps of questions on

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this. I think this is a very engaging topic for people at the moment because either you're upset that PSA has shut

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down the value spots and also the delay is so long or you are genuinely considering where you're going to get

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your cards graded to next. Top rips. I can't take PSA anymore. I grade about 100 cards a month. So, I've been doing fanatics/

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CGC grade and vault for $10 per card. a personal collection. I've been using tag and I think that's a very good honest

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take on the situation. Like it's very practical. It's very pragmatic to use CGC in the fanatics vault. And for 10 bucks a card, you can't really go wrong,

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can you? I mean, that's almost like the old days of what PSA was charging, wasn't it? You could get them done for just a couple of bucks and then flip

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them out really cheaply. Personally, I'm waiting for PSA to stop being a diva.

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And that's from there goes John. And look, there's nothing wrong with waiting, man. I think the problem with doing that, though, is that the the

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price might not come down. So, at solvablec, I've been sending some unlicensed autos to SGC. For me, I don't want to keep autographs without

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protection for too long. Crown Jaxster taking a pause for grading until PSA get their prices down. Like, will send one

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or two to Beckett or SGC just for the PC. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, man. I think, yeah, this is absolutely like a theme that's emerging

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for me here. Otter. Yes. Have 22 cards there since February and still in assembly. Uh look, I've got a card there myself. I don't have 22 cards in there.

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It's a Manuy gold number to 10 prism card with a sticker autograph on it. I'm also getting the autograph graded, too.

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So, I think actually has to go through two cues and I'll probably get some type of upcharge associated with that, too.

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But yeah, I'm I'm guessing mine's going to be 10 or 11 months at least. The pile on my desk waiting for PSA to never open their doors again. And that's from

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Taylor John Richardson. I'm personally waiting until value tiers open up with PSA again. 100% man. Willie_witmore.

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I was really intrigued by tag grading but haven't sent my cards yet. Have purchased a couple of their exclusive releases and they were very nice. Yeah, I think this is the thing, isn't it?

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when PSA is doing so well. I don't think they're going to cry over this like losing a bit of business to different grading companies, but I think this is a

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definite offshoot of PSA shutting down there as people are going to be looking to different grading card companies. So, Lammy Fam cards, as someone who is

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getting cards ready to send to grading with everything that's developed the last few months, I'm not sure I trust the process. And there's nothing wrong with that, man, at all. There is

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absolutely nothing wrong with that at all because like who really wants your cards sitting around there for months and months on end at trade OKC mine are

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still sitting in process status 2 months later. So this was created May the 23rd and they're still in processing. So it's still got research and ID grading

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assembly QA graded ready for pickup picked up to go. So yeah, basically the process has not really started yet at

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the Terry Shayley straight to eBay. Let someone else pay to find out it's a nine. [laughter] I mean, you're not wrong there, man. Joe

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stacks just sent 30 cards to CGC. I tell you what, I'm actually going to pause this here and I'm just going to go on to gem rate and just have a look at what's

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else has been going on to see if we can see a little bit of a trend. PSA 2.5 million cards graded in June 26 month

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plus 21%. And so that actually makes sense because PSA have actually said they're trying their hardest to get through and accelerate through what

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they've got year onear plus 74%. Man, that's just insane numbers, isn't it?

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CGC plus 19% for the month and 78% yearonear. Beckett just plus 1% month-

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on month. So that's really interesting to me. I would have thought you'd see a bigger jump on the month- on-month there for Beckett. Plus 132% yearonear for

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Becket Tag. Plus 4%. Again, I would have expected to see a little bit more, but that's totally fine. Plus 45% yearonear.

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SGC is the big loser here. 39,000 cards graded in June, minus 19% for the month,

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and minus 75% yearonear. That's a very interesting development. I'd like to see more about that with SGC. I might even

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reach out to Ryan on that to see if he's got some context on that because at Shudy Babbot one, what's going on at SGC? Why are the numbers down? Any idea?

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I grade with them a lot and they seem to be well acknowledged by the collecting community. That that's literally the same question that I asked to. All righty, moving on. This is a little bit of licensing and player payments news.

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This is from TS OJ Ball. Jaylen Clark reveals every NBA player gets the same licensing check and his was $385,000.

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Licensing check. Money from NBA 2K, jersey sales, and trading cards. Instead of LeBron James making $30 million, all the players came together and said, "We're going to include everybody.

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Everybody gets an equal share, no matter if you're the top dog on the team or the bottom dog." I mean, that's a very honest and equal way to distribute funds

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throughout the league, isn't it? And I think for someone like LeBron James, it's probably not going to make that much difference. But to a guy like this where every dollar is still mattering,

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that's a huge huge uptick. And I actually think that's a very reasonable thing for the players to do cuz they all would have had to agree on that. It's a

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lot of cash for every single player to get. I was actually talking to my buddies about this today in a group chat. I really wonder about how much money these companies do make on these

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video games and all the rest of if that's how much they're getting paid out for licensing for every single NBA player. But I suppose that also includes

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jersey sales and trading cards. And it's not just 2K, is it? But at Street Life and number one, this is why the NBA has the strongest players union in sports.

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385,000 just for existing as an NBA player on top of your salary is actually insane. 100%. And next story here is

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from Lamine James, but we are going to tie this in also to his trade that's just happened this week. Number one pick two years ago, and you can pick up his

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veteran. It's not his rookie card, but a Bowman Chrome. A very nice autograph of that. Looks to me like it's a sticker,

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but still very nice card there. Looks a bit like a white sparkle that you might see out of Prism. Autograph number to $299 for just $7.50.

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This guy has absolutely fallen off a cliff hobby-wise, and he's still a really young kid, so I actually don't mind that as a a pickup. So the NBA

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trade that was reported that involved Risha, Atlanta gets Lou Dort and Ryan Nembrand. Dallas gets richer and OKC

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gets draft picks. So this is another very very solid move for the Hawks.

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Essentially picking up one of the best three indeed players in the league.

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Essentially it's a salary dump and we'll talk about the salary dump a little bit more. I'm pretty intrigued as to why the Hawks moved off Rishair so quickly

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because it seems very very early for me for him to be just essentially thrown away in a deal and not getting a whole heap back. The other thing too for the

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OKC Thunder is because they maybe desperate is not quite the right word, but they really did need to move out some salary and I'm actually surprised

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that the Thunder didn't have to give up draft equity to get rid of that contract. I mean, it's not a horrible contract, so maybe that's why. and he

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still is a very good NBA player, but the Thunder have had a massive win on this one here. So, this is from Yahoo Sports.

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They're breaking down the trade here.

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All righty. The Atlanta Hawks got a B+ for this trade. The Hawks got the best player in the deal with Dort. The defensive duo. He now forms with Dyson

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Daniels will give teams trouble on the perimeter. They will need shooting from the guys surrounding these two, which their current projected lineup does feature. Nebrand was also sent to

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Atlanta in this trade. Overall, a great trade as they reshape their roster into a more defensive oriented mindset. So, moving off Trey Young and into Lou Dort.

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It's a it's a huge huge change for that team and I think what the issue is going to be for them now is going to be offensive creation because losing Trey

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Young, losing rishes, I don't think he was an insane playmaker, but at the same time he still had a little bit of all round game in terms of shooting,

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passing, even his three ball wasn't terrible with Rouses. So, I think yeah, it's it's a really weird one for me. So, I think if he bombs out in Dallas, that

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will be why. Like, they've clearly made a very quick early read on this guy, but as a former number one overall pick, it is a little bit surprising for me.

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Dallas Mavericks get an A on this trade.

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The Mavericks getting Risha Nembrandt is an awesome deal for them. 100%. It's just a huge talent upgrade. And also too, like who cares if it doesn't work

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out? Like, it's it's a risk worth taking. They get some great upside and potential for someone who is in the back end of the roster. If it doesn't work

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out, whatever you didn't give up anything 100% I could not agree with that me more. Dallas will now likely need to look for another trade as their roster is building up too many players.

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Look for potential trade rumors for Daniel Gaffford. Klay Thompson may be another name to monitor as they round out their roster. I mean, they've got a

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lot more decisions to make on this because they've also got Curry Irving who's very much a veteran player. I don't think Klay Thompson fits this roster anymore just for the fact that

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they've gone in a completely different direction with their roster. It's it's a young roster now. I think they should give the keys to Cooper Flag and just

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let that guy go nuts. I would personally keep Gaffford. He's still a very usable big. He doesn't need a lot of sets run for him. I think he can help your team

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without, you know, really much being going on for it. Whereas I think Klay Thompson, Kyrie Irving can actually still help teams particularly in the the

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back end of their careers. So, Oklahoma City gets a C. The Thunder gave up the best player and didn't receive anything of immediate value in return. That in

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itself would take the grade down, but I wouldn't go as far to say it was a bad trade. They needed to get under the second apron and receive three more picks in their efforts to do so.

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Wouldn't say this trade is a win, but it's definitely not as bad as reported on paper. I agree with that. And let's talk about the second apron because this

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is now the third team this off seasonason that has mentioned the second apron in terms of how it's shaped their decision-m and also roster moves around

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that. The Knicks after winning the championship said very publicly they would not go into the second apron. And this is the reason why. As of June the

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15th, the Oklahoma City Thunder payroll was $557 million.

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$261 million of that was salary.2 $296 million of that was taxed after the

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trades, which includes Aaron Wiggins, Lou Dort, and Isaiah Joe being traded away. Their salary now stands at $214

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million, and their tax is just $20 million. So, and I'm I don't want to over sensationalize this. If you can

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save $200 million trading away Lou Dort, you do that. Like, there's no player in the league. Okay, maybe except for Luca

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or LeBron James in their prime that's worth $200 million. There is nothing wrong with teams having a little bit of financial responsibility. I actually I

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approve of this trade. What's really interesting for me though is the fact that the Thunder have this many good young players and essentially have to

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give them away for ultimately, you know, nothing. second round picks could work out to be something and actually could be really valuable in terms of having a

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good talented player on a on a very low contract in the future for them. But that is very much, you know, it's far down the line. But at the same time, I

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think if you're a team out there, you'd almost be approaching the Thunder looking to pick up some of their discarded players because they've just got so much talent on their roster.

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Let's have a look at their depth chart because it's amazing how things just so quickly change. Like in my mind, this is a team that could have won three

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championships in a row. Obviously with the injury to Jaylen Williams last year, they weren't at full strength and they got knocked out of the playoffs by the Spurs. That was a huge surprise for me.

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I was not expecting that in any capacity at all at the start of the season. I would never have predicted that. Despite them losing all that talent that we just

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spoke about, their depth chart looks like this. SGA, Jaylen Williams, Chad Holgrim, Isaiah Hartenstein, AJ

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Mitchell, Jared McCain. I think he's going to start this year instead of Lou Dort. This trade actually hasn't been updated and reflected on the depth chart

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yet. Kase Wallace is still on the roster. Alex Caruso, Jay Lynn Williams, which is the not as good as the Jay Nen

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Williams, Kendrick Williams, Thomas Sora, and allegedly Sorba's actually grown in the offse. Oklahoma

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City Thunder center power forward Thomas Sa grew 10 inches during the offseason bringing his height to 6'11 with an

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expanded 78 foot wingspan. I mean these kids are just insane, aren't they?

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Isaiah Joe is gone off the roster. He's been traded. So there this hasn't been updated for a while. There's Aaron Wigan still on the roster too. Brennan

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Carlson. Nola Topic. That's another guy to keep your eye on for them too. So yeah, they're still going to be insanely competitive this year despite the fact

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they've had to unload all of that talent. Having a look at the Dallas Mavericks roster now. Curry Irving, Max Christy, Cooper Flag, PJ Washington,

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Daniel Gaffford, Sassa, Sergio Daria, Klay Thompson, Naji Marshall. I love

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Naji Marshall. Santi Aldama, I think he's been traded to the Lakers. Caleb

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Martin, Risher Johnson, Derek Lively. So yeah, they need upgrades on this roster, don't they? I think they really need to upgrade their two guard. I think Lively

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will be back in the starting lineup at some point this season. There's no real reason for them to hold him back, especially after the way he played in

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the NBA finals. Little bit of card porn for you. This is from at Card. recent sale. The 2024 National Treasures SGAA

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log and one of one sold for $427,000 via Golden Auctions on July the 11th,

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2026 for a non rookie logo. And for me, that seems really, really high. And again, we're just talking about this like it's crazy how quickly the

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dynasties can change. like they've gone from winning unlimited championships to then not winning last year and now unloading a really key piece to their

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roster. Last thing to add about the Lou Dort trade, this is from Kevin O' Conor.

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OKC trading Lou Dort might be purely about the money, but finances could also be a convenient excuse. Dort was borderline unplayable against the Spurs.

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He's a shaky shooter. He's never been a shot creator, and he may already be past his peak defensively. Plus, his minutes were blocking backcourt players who

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could end up better. My gut says this move is the thunder getting off a guy one year before everyone realizes they

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should. That is I mean, as always, Kevin O' Conor is just a brilliant basketball mind. I think that does look past a

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little bit about what his game is and being unplayable for one series, you know, isn't a really good reason to

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trade a player, particularly what he's contributed to that team. What I'm really interested in seeing though from this team is just to see how dynamic

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some of these other guys can be. Like I'm really excited to see Topi play. I think this puts Chad into the spotlight and I actually think Hardenstein needs

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to play more minutes too. Maybe actually this is what it's going to do. It's going to force them to really play seven or eight players all the time. Jared

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McCain is going to be a frontline player going to the NBA finals for the next couple of years. AJ Mitchell has to play well. I'm really keen to see that.

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That's that's what I think is the fallout for me of this trade is how is their roster and their rotation going to look after all of this. A little bit

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more NBA/ Michael Jordan news. This is the third week in a row that we've been making Jordan news reports. Here we go. Upper

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Deck is releasing a Metal Universe Space Jam 30th anniversary set in November and it looks insane. I mean, just go with what works. People love old stuff.

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People love celebrating anniversaries.

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People love Michael Jordan. People want Jordan autographs. This is now the third product that he has signed in this year.

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So that for me is it's interesting cuz he's been so dormant for seems to me like 10 years he hasn't signed for. So all of a sudden now he's getting back

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out and signing. I' I've got no idea why about this and I'm this is purely speculation but I wonder if he had to sign you know so much in a certain

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period of time and it's coming towards the end of the contract and you know here we are with him needing to sign.

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Jumbo Eye will be back in the product. I am that stuff doesn't really interest me at all. The inserts, they're really

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cool. I think for me at the end of the day, this is all just about the autographs. If these are unclarred autographs and they are genuin genuinely

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SSPs, I am all about that. It's just obviously the pain you need to go through of how many packets you need to rip to make it all happen. All righty,

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let's start off with a mail day. Dear Fox, a blank slate. I I'm not even sure

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I have a blank slate in my collection to be perfectly honest. So, yeah, getting one and getting a Darren Fox, too. I

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again, I got this off a friend. So, Brett, thank you so much, mate. The card arrived absolutely beautifully. And obviously, it's a pricing thing for me.

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I I really just did feel that the Fox ones are a little bit overpriced.

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I probably could have hung out and got one graded for maybe around the same price that I paid. Probably prefer just buying off people I know these days. Any So, this is how this is going to work.

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I'm going to rip open these cards. The most interesting card out of this pack.

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I will either comp it or do a story about it or something, you know, along those lines. If you are watching at home, I'll put some pictures up on

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Instagram or otherwise go to YouTube and watch the weekly feed if you do want to check out the cards. And also check out the blank slate. All righty. Andre German on the red, white, and blue.

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Devonte Graham on the red, white, and blue. And Luca Gaza. This is so far the

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most interesting card that we've had out of this. And for me, I'm still not forgiving this guy because I had Pistons

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in a pick your team break in Cad's rookie year and a bronze number to 20

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came out for Pistons. And for a second I thought it was Pade Cunningham, but it was Luca effing Gaza. There you go.

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[laughter]

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Uh, Carl Malone, the mailman. Probably the most interesting so far. Chris Darte, Tim Duncan. All right. Well,

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Duncan is winning so far. Compazo, Jaylen Smith, the goggled one, Russell Westbrook, Instant Impact, Davon

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Mitchell, Silver Drew Holiday. Nice one there. Uh, a Green Bones Highland, Embiid, Montre Harold, and Sadiq Bay.

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All right, guys. The two most interesting cards are Tim Duncan and Car Malone. So, let's do a Car Malone and

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Tim Duncan breakdown. So, Duncan is 17th in on the player index list. He is

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behind Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe, Steph Curry, Magic Johnson, Luca, WBY, Shaq,

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Kareem, Wilt Chamberlain, SGA, Giannis, Bill Russell, KD. I think KD's had a

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massive surge recently, Anthony Edwards, Nola Yik, and then Tim Duncan. So, who are the people who I think Duncan should

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be ahead of? I mean, Yokik for me is a tough one cuz I love them both. Edwards is a no-brainer despite the huge hype

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this guy's got. Should be ahead of Kevin Durant. Should be ahead of Giannis.

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Should be ahead of SGA. Wiltz is a tough one. Kareem is a tough one. Shaq, I understand why he's up there. WBY, I

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think that Duncan should be ahead of WBY, but I do understand why he's up there. Luca Donic, exactly the same thing as WBY. Magic Johnson. It's

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probably because he signed about 80 million autographs that his total market cap is at 87.3 million. Steph Curry, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Michael

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Jordan. No complaints about that absolute at all. All righty. some of the top Tim Duncan cards. 1997 Topps Chrome

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rookie card, the 1997 Metal Universe Championship PMG number to 50, and the

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97 Metal Universe Tim Duncan red PMG and also the green PMG. Why don't we just look at those four? I think that's enough cards to go through, isn't it?

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The 1997 Topps Chrome base card PSA 10. Population on that is $2,480.

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Last sold for $600. If you look at the all-time sales data on this, whoa. So, during co that peaked at 4,500 and it

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went all the way back down to about 200 bucks. Uh, the last year he's up 121%. The last two years, he's up 100%. Yeah.

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And that's fair enough, isn't it? The refractor last sold for $6,599.

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The last two years that's up 69%. The pop on that is 106. Yeah, I think that's an absolute that's banging. That's an

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absolutely amazing buy. I'll give that a 10 out of 10 on that one there for the Tops Chrome Refractor rookie card. Tim

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Duncan 1997 Metal Universe Championship number 72 numbered to 50. Last sold for

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$4,450 in March of 2019. There is very very very little sales data on this. There is

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one piece of sales data all time just because of the scarcity of this card. I think this is the type of card that if it did go back to market like who knows

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what this could go for 40 50 $60,000 even if it's raw and in many ways nothing to do with Tim Duncan more about

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the card and the scarcity of it red PMG number to 90 this is the raw one again

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very very little sales data on this let's try and find some sales data all right this last sold in 2022 BGS9 it

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sold for $85 $5,000. Yeah. I mean, this is entering high-end collecting m, you know, material here. I'm still going to

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rate this as a buy. I think as a rookie card of how highly coveted these cars are, the high grade on this one here, I

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mean, it's probably in Shine's collection, right? And the green PMG BGS8 population on this is three. It last sold for $228,000.

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The green is numbered to 10. Alltime sales data, there's three sales on this.

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We've actually got a graph. In 2020, it sold for 50K. In 2021, it sold for 200,000. And in 2025, it sold for $228,000.

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Again, this is just Monopoly money for me, but I think that's a very shrewd purchase. PSA 6 that last sold in 2020,

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and it sold for $79,000. In March 2019, this sold for $33,000. So again, yeah, I

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I think that's it's a six-digit card now. That could be $200,000. Even at PSA 6, like we saw the Kobe, the lowgraded

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Kobe sell for insane dollars. I couldn't imagine this is going to be anything else than that. All righty. Our last player of this evening, as dictated by

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our live rip, and I'm not going to sit here and count down all of the different guys, but Carl Malone is below Bob

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Koozie, Camlo Anthony, Vince Carter, Jeff Malone, John Stockton, LaMelo Ball, and is ahead of Isaiah Thomas, Trey

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Young, Hallebertton, Drexler, Donovan Mitchell, Algen Baylor, and Anthony Hardaway. Some of the top caramel alone

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cards is the 86 fleer card, 1998 fleer tradition. And let's see if he's got a PMG in here. I don't think he does

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because if he did, it would be there. He does have a Kaboom though. Let's start off with the Kaboom. 2014 Excalibur

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Caralone Kaboom PSA 10 last sold for 1,227. Alltime sales data from 1,400 in 2024.

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In 2022, it sold for $330. Oh man, that's such a great purchase. And $76

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in 2017. Wow, look at this. So, in between 2021 and 2024, there was a heap

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of sales and they all sold between 300, 279, 350. The last sale in 2026, it's gone up to 1,375.

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I gotta say, considering that he doesn't have a PMG, that's kind of the biggest, shiniest card that's left over, isn't

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it? I'm genuinely intrigued by this card. Last week, we spoke about the Drexler XRC. I'm going to put this into the same type of sentence. I think that

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this is a going to be a very, very collectible card longterm. I need to do a bit more research to see if he does have a PMG, but there's not one here, and it would be here if it was there. If

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that's the case, I think this card is an absolute purchase. It will be very collectible out of a fantastic set. He might not be the most loved guy, but it

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will be it will be chased and it will be definitely collectible. 1986 Fleer Carl again the most famous and most popular

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set ever created. PSA 9 population $2,353. It last sold for $381.

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Look, it is what it is. I think that's a very reasonable price. The price difference, however, between the 9 and the 10 is 10x and I think that's too

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much. I think the PSA 9's a buy. PSA 10 is $3,750.

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It last sold July the 21st, 2026. You're looking at cards that are value with a differential between a 10 and a nine.

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Here's another example of that. I think that's very undervalued. Yeah, the pop is high, but I think to go from PSA 9 to

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PSA 10 to go 10x that that that ratio is is way up. I think that's a fantastic pickup there. All righty, guys. I'm

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going to stop this here. Thank you everybody who did jump into the feed, jumped into the comments. Really appreciate you. Shout outs again. Raz,

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Mitch, NBA card kings, Dellcard. CK, Rosco, Grandmama's Ballers, MK Love Me,

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Dane Neville. What's up, guys? And just as a reminder, tomorrow night we have got Matt Harper from NCM coming on to

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talk some cards with me. I'm really, really looking forward to catching up with Matt. That'll be awesome. Thanks, guys. Take care of yourselves and I will catch you for the next one. Peace guys.

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Bye. What's up guys? A post-p podcast fact check in progress right now. There

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is in fact a 1997 metal universe PMG of Carloon. And you can see here this is from collectibles.com. They've got a couple of prices up on the screen here.

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One for 129 and one for 118. So the green number to 10 would go for exponentially more than that. that does change the narrative on what I said

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about the Kaboom, but I still think it's a fun purchase, particularly at that price point. The one thing I would like to stand by is that ratio between the

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PSA 9 and the PSA 10. I think that is still very, very good value there. And even though I'm not quite as excited as the Kaboom now that I know there is a